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DOOM is DOOMED


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>reviewers denied review copies

This isn't a good sign /v/. They're trying to hide something.
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JUST
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>>337384070
FUCK
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>>337384135
MY
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>>337384242
>4242▶
>>>337384135
Cuck?
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>>337384242
GAME
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Cant wait for my copy to show up tomorrow
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>>337384319
UP
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>First website review is a 9/10
>Steam has 91% positive

I'll bet you that by this Sunday, the negative shitposting for this game will be at a bare minimum.
There's already been a pretty major shift in opinion just today, and the game is still only out in Australia because of time zones.
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>>337383757

Oh man, that's like a presidential candidate not releasing their tax return.
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Even my normie as fuck friends are saying Doom looks like tryhard shit.

Kind of a shame, really. Seems like it was obviously made more for MP with the SP as an afterthought, which was where they fucked up.

>you'll never get another Quake game much like 1 or 2 that doesn't have shitty modern features and a tacked on "competitive" online mode that is overly balanced and imitative of other modern games, rather than there to just be "fun and crazy."
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>>337383757

It's really fun.

Only retards like Johnathon Cukkintosh won't like bcoz MUH VIOLENCE
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>>337384561
I watched the entire campaign being streamed couple days ago by some fags who managed to snatch a copy too early, and the game was just fucking shit.

Cinematics, everywhere.
Handholding, tons of it.
Empty linear pipe corridorss, connecting obligatory "combat arenas" you get locked into to fight spawning waves of enemies.
Three fucking upgrade / level up systems, which you NEED to use. That is, unless you enjoy only carrying 20 rounds of SG ammo, and wasting 4 of them to kill just one basic, low-tier enemy.
For said reason + the fact that there's barely supplies to pick up, you also need to use the Glory Kills. All. The. Fucking. Time.

Finally, the ending was literally a slap to the face + "lol, remember to buy our sequel, goy!"
This guy's the final boss.
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I just got a preview of Polygon's review, here are my favorite quotes

>Toxic masculinity is found in every facet in this sad excuse of a game.

>Tons of gross, gross. ICKY, Yucky killing. Why am I killing these 9 foot tall aliens shooting at me? What's the purpose of all this violence?

>Ugh... This game is GamerGate's wet dream.


3/10
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>>337385437
>that's the final boss
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>>337385437
this.
also hope ya'll love epic memes.
>only us gamers will get this!
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>>337385867
why the fuck did they have to add the helmet
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>>337386112
>game by Bethesda
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>>337385867
>a fucking arrow to the knee joke
>on doom

and this game is defended on /v/

Just fucking kill me now
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>>337386664
You can kill yourself, you know. You don't need someone else to do it for you.
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>>337385867
>doom becomes a meme game
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LOL and I remember shills defending this garbage the other day, pathetic.
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>>337385437
There's not cinematics in the game. Like any. The designers specifically said they don't want much of that crap. What you're seeing is the glory kill animations which apparently can be sped up.
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Which one is it v?
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>>337387423
Dumb phoneposters shouldn't be allowed to post
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they also gave away wolfenstein to steam preorders.
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>>337383757
So how much of pic related has actually become true?
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>>337385867
It's a fucking joke you autist
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>>337383757
>spoiled ecelebs denied free copies
>this is bad somehow

is it summer already?
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>having shitty psuedo-RPG upgrades to make the game fast
>having cinematic go off every five seconds
>having 5-20 enemies in a room
>no melee combat
>kills heal
>worst multiplayer imaginable
Reminder Bethesda is hitting /v/ hard with shills who do nothing but repeat the same insults over and over again.
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>>337387423
>431 posts
>150 unique IPs
hm
I wonder
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>>337387540
Literally nothing

>>337387593
>kills heal
This isn't true
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THAT'S ONE DOOMED SPACE MARINE.
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>>337385867
You either die a hero
or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
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>>337384830
Same shit that happened with GTA5 in my opinion, they focused the entire map design for the MP. Too bad it still looked like shit.
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>>337385437
>>337385617
Wasn't the Spider Mastermind the final boss of the original? What's the problem?
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>>337387543
Learn the difference between a reference and a joke you mongoloid. It's a 5 year old unfunny meme and nothing more.
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>>337387662
>kill enemy
>health pops out

fuck off, shill
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>>337385867
No fucking way
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>>337385867
Wolfenstein The Old Blood had this same fucking joke in it.
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>>337387745
he's not hitscan anymore, for starters.
and have you seen the snail-pace of all projectiles in this game?

Plus guess HOW you end the bosses in this game. Hint: the old pro-tip does not apply.
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>>337386804
Thats the bad ending
Which will be the good ending of the series?
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It's already out you cucks and it's the best looking game of this gen even though it's 60FPS on console.

ID MAGIC
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>>337387662
>This isn't true
except it's is. A single possessed human can drop a fucking +65 HP item, which your suit sucks up from few meters away.
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>>337387863
Well yeah, I have no doubt the implementation is shitty. But that anon seemed to take issue with the idea of the Spider Mastermind being the final boss when that was its original role all along.
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>>337387876
We already got it, in 1997
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>>337387954
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>>337387540
Everything except shoehorned girl, doomguy voice and the music. Or well, the levels are somewhat sprawling
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>>337383757
>expecting old titles to do well now
Did you think Doom was actually gonna do well?
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You guys are shitting on/defending a game that isn't even out yet.

Don't pre-order. Wait three days after launch. Read reviews, watch videos. Decide for yourself.
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>>337385489
Masculinity is toxic


Topcuck
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>>337388048
I'd say that people really expected more from a 2016's sequel.
Every other game's trying to exceed the previous one's epicness these days, but D44M only gives us a rebooted version of the D1's original boss?

>>337388172
>isn't out yet
except it is, and some lucky fucks already got it 3 days ago.
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>>337385867
To make the reference more obvious cuz even Bethesda knows only morons liked the arrow knee meme
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Is this game LGBT friendly?
I just hope some of the demons are LGBT, and I hope Mars has gender neutral bathrooms or I'll cancel my pre-order.
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>>337387954
Rage was 60fps on xbox
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>>337388165
This.
Just fucking look at Duke Nukem.
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>>337387410
yes there is, the cinematics just blend in with the game and there are sections with plot exposition where you just stay still listening the some holograms talk.
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>DOOM was always a simple dudebro shooter marketed to normies
>/v/ doesn't know the difference between DOOM and Quake is upset
Lol
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>>337388386
Yeah when you were standing still facing a wall.
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>>337388172
It's already out faggot. whole game's revealed to be shit
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>>337387863
>and have you seen the snail-pace of all projectiles in this game?

They're much faster that in the original games. But that's kinda bad, since they figured that people won't be able to dodge all of them, so now the projectiles just fly in your general direction instead of straight at you. So they end up being these things that just kinda happen around you, instead of something you deliberately dodge
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>>337385867
Fuck gaming.
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>>337388172
Does anyone else kinda wish Dover Boys was its own series instead of just that one episode?
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>>337385867
This is fake right?
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>>337385867
No.
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>>337388484
2/10
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>>337388584
i have the game

It's as real as it gets.
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>>337388417
Quake was just as simple as Doom, except with fully 3d levels
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>>337387543
what's the joke
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>>337385867
>haha, look gais it's that doomed arrow knee guy! geddit?
thanks a lot, Duke
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>>337385867
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>>337385867
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Did they do the same with The New Order?
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It will literally be a copy of Wolfenstein TNO, but with monsters and no stealth
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>>337388172

SUBTLE
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>>337388348
Nice steam review.
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The internet hate machine has been waiting to bash this game. Its probably good. Faggots
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>>337385867
I am not here to change anyone's mind, but that is Bethesda referring to their own.

Come the fuck on people, the game is trash as it is, but this is nitpicking.
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>>337388681
Very true. However Quake was (eventually) actually designed as the 'superfast' shooter with silly multiplayer derpness that /v/ thinks is 'so skillful and hardcore'

There is literally no DOOM release like that. Anons are holding this game to a hilariously false standard. Case in point: >>337385867
>OH NO THERE'S A JOKE IN MY VIDEO GAME WOOOOW
Come ON guys.
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>>337384561
This shit happened with Fallout 4 launch month and then everybody stopped talking about it.
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>>337385867
Gah! Nurse, fetch my pills. I can't take any more of this.
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>>337388681
Full on retard: The post.
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>>337387593
>Doom
>Cinematics

These two things do not and should not be mixed.
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>>337385867
>The Fucking Iron Helmet

First TNO and now this Shit? Fuck Bethesda.
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>>337387672
BLOW IT UP YOUR ASS
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Press F to pay respect
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>>337385867
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>>337389081
Pretty sure Doom would had this, the same way they had it on Doom 3 or Quake 4 if they could had at the time, the wall of text depicting how fucked you are was bloody stupid.

Good Cinematics or good in game scripted scenes are not bad, but we had had plenty of horrible ones.
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>>337388957
Is anybody actually comparing it to Q3 though? There are things Doom did which this game doesn't
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>>337385867
It's edited in your fucking aspies. Hence why the quality of the screenshot is so shit, to make it seem a little bit less obvious.
t. Was just playing the game
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>>337388417
Normies didn't play games in 1993. Few of them even knew what a computer was.
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>>337389202
F
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>>337385867
pretty ebin , cant wait
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>>337389071
Tell me about how complex Quake 1 is. It's the same key hunting
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>>337388951
That was basically Adrian Carmack's final "Fuck You" to Tom Hall
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>>337385867
My Fucking god those textures look like a game from 2008. how do you fuck up so bad
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>>337389324
What are you talking about, it's in the game. I took the same screenshot
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>>337389453
MEGATEXTURES
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>>337389272
>Pretty sure Doom would had this
Are you fucking retarded
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>>337383757
reviewers are scum of the earth. the more companies that shunt them the better (for the consumer, not for the companies)
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>>337388951
There was actually a Commander Keen reference as well in this game as well
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>Post yfw Bethesda shills are on suicide watch
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>>337389449
I wonder if they ever buried the hatchet
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>>337388869
Oh please no. Wolfenstein was great when it was no more complicated than 'shoot nazis who are messing with something they shouldn't be' to JEW CONCRETE and MUH CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

They won't make DOOM 'deep,' will they?
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>>337389514
link video please
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>>337389640
Any TNO references?

BTW, didn't TNO also not have review copies?
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>>337389597
Well, at least an ending cutscene. Which it did, though it was just a picture
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It's actually a good game.
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>>337388071
>>337387954
I have a PC, and fucking Uncharted 4 looks better than that
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>>337389647
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>>337389756
draqu_ on twitch. Didn't record it but it's the first hell level
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>>337385867
even fucking Anthony burch apologized for putting in that joke in borderlands 2
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>>337389647
>lol I bet this game's marketers are on suicide watch because a few people on 4chan don't like their multimillion preorder, well rated top-seller game.
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>>337385867
>they actually put memes in doom
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>>337389759
Haven't seen TNO references. It has Doom references though
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>>337390020
Yeah, I'm also sure they love memes
>>337385867
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_vG2MIJXj4

So THIS is the power of console players...

...Woah...
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>>337389703
they already kinda did.
Doomguy is literally this messiah character the UAC is spent ages trying to revive from an ancient demon-temple or something.
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>>337388172
I love fags like you
>wahh stop hating on my game it's not out yet
>release
>guys it just came out give it time PLez
>6 months later
> This is my GOTY if you disagree you are autistic aspies, suck it haterz
rinse and repeat for every tripple A game
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>Glory kills result in more drops than just shooting enemies

JUST
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>>337385867
your filename is more cringey than the actual picture itself, fucking autist.
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Stay mad faggots, having so much fun lately.
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>>337385867
>An FPS Shooter uses a dead character from another FPS game as a joke

STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES
IT'S A JOKE THATS BEEN USED SINCE FUCKING DUKE NUKEM 3D
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>>337390181
Pic related
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>>337390275
yea downloading the game is more fun than the game itself
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>>337390290
Kill yourself Bethesda shill
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It's better than Wolfenstein TNO. It has less cutscenes, more action, and does an even better job at telling a story. 8 hours in and just returned from Hell for the first time.
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>>337390148
Well, let's not forget in Doom 2 you literally single handedly fought off a planetary scale invasion after the actual army couldn't do shit, went to hell and destroyed what appeared to be the leader of hell all by your fucking self
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>>337383757
Welcome to a week ago
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>>337385867
FUCKING


STOPPPPPP
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>uses to think /v/ was overreacting to another game again
>decided to play doom
>play doom
>play plutonia next, I actually played it before long ago but never finished
>look at doom 4 game footage
>tfw

Now I know why.
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>>337390398

God damn fucking right goy
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>>337390404
Literally the only thing wrong with that is the overused knee joke.

>>337390398
the PS4 has had the feature to play games during download since launch.
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>>337390429
>It has less cutscenes
jesus, I've not even played TNO since it looked like mediocre crap, but if it has MORE cutscenes than D44M... what has gaming become?
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>>337390638
Doom doesn't have any cutscenes, it's all from in-game, first person perspective.

TNO has a lot of scenes that pulls out of BJ's head to narrate a story, and they are well done.
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>>337385867
F
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>>337388090
Soundtrack is industrial metal, not dubstep.
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i'm gonna buy Doom and i'm gonna enjoy it and there's not a single thing any of you butthurt faglords can do to stop me
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>>337390950
2/10 copy-pasta
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>>337390125

Why does this guy miss half his shots, if not more?
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>>337383757
Meh I'm playing it right now on PS4. Runs perfect. Graphics are okay. It runs on 60 FPS without hiccups. But it looks like your typical U4 game. Nothing groundbreaking.

Gameplay is fun. In SP you have multiple weapons each with 2 different second fire modes. Movement is fluid and works. But still a bit too slow for my taste but welp not that bad.

Not many cutscenes only animations for button presses, door opening etc and sometimes a quick ingame cutscene some seconds and then back to shooting.

The level design is still somewhat linear but there are secret paths here and there where you can find upgrades for your suit and collectables.

The music is shit. It's metal dubstep. It's just that new thing to put in every shooter. It blasts around but never makes an impact.

That's it SP is a solid 8+ from me. It's nothing groundbreaking but it's nice to play a somewhat old school shooter again like Wolfenstein TNO.

MP on the other hand is pure shit. Generic as fuck, only 2 weapons, too slow.
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>>337385867
those cucks literally did it
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>>337390638
Every single cutscene in TNO was rather short, you guys overdramatize everything. It's one of the best shooters i've played in years, though it's certainly not full oldschool like Shadow Warrior or ROTT
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>>337390950
Holy fuck have you seen those retards hitting themselves with hammers?
What a bunch of idiots, hammers are shit.
Do not hit yourself with a hammer.
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>you lived long enough to see your favorite FPS game killed by casualization

Fucking kids
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>>337383757
EA did this with Sims4
They knew the game sucked
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Why would you need reviews when there are multiple legit streams on twitch right now?
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>>337391109
This hammer is SHIT, i need a HARDER HAMMER
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>>337391031
Because consoles
Because retard on a console
Because retard playing on easy on a console
Because retard playing on easy on a on a console that doesn't rush into the enemies to execute them like every other trailer and preview except for the NVidia guy that was playing on PC
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>>337390909
Yeah that's what I was saying, the music part hasn't become true. Though, the metal seems more like the chugging djent variety than the speed metal riffs in the old games
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>>337390851
>Doom doesn't have any cutscenes,
I take you've not played it yet?
It has real, as in legit fucking cutscenes. Making them play in first-person does not change the fact.

Also, there's tons of those small "cinematic" sequences for picking up items, opening doors, using switches, activating mission objective items, etc.
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>>337391036
>MP on the other hand is pure shit. Generic as fuck, only 2 weapons, too slow.
MP servers are down at the moment, you can't play it.
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should I pull the trigger?
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>>337391138
Did you feel like it wasn't dead already? Doom 2 came out in 1994
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>>337391353
Yes please kill yourself
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>>337391269
They are extremely infrequent, and yes I own the Xbox One version of the game. There are much less than TNO.
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>>337391036
>But it looks like your typical U4 game.

It's not unreal 4.
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Any good Brutal Doom packs with a lot of maps?
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>>337391392
Looks like one being the operative word.

>>337391429
Brutal doom comes with some, but you can pretty much play any old map pack with brutal doom. Get the "so you wanna play doom" pack from /vr/.
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>>337385437
>I watched the entire campaign being streamed
>watched
>stream
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>>337391520
Thanks man
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>>337391290
Well maybe right now but I played 2 matches this afternoon.
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>>337391550
I missed the thirll and excitement of point and shooting with a few walking up to scripted events or Press X to chainsaw.
brb killing myself.
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>>337391257
Well that's what works for this game, it was clear they weren't going for the same aesthetic or design sense of Doom 1/2 so the soundtrack also needed to change.

Not a bad change, just a different one.
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>>337391378
why?
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>>337391663
It was down last night, might be up now. I'll have to check.
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>>337389791
>I have a PC

No you don't
>>
so, anyone got the latest denuvocrack at hand? I wanna test it on this, as people say D44M uses the old v2
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>>337388479
and the rest of the time as well.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-rage-face-off
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>>337391353
what is that USD?

if that is > $36.28 USD than no
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>>337391138

Doom was not for casuals to begin with? What the fuck is going on?

Stop acting like you're not special snowflake
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>>337391974
$32.34
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>>337391932
>denuvocrack

denuvo hasn't been cracked at all the main hackers trying straight up made a statement saying they give up it's un crackable
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>>337385437
>no source
every time
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>>337391138
>Tfw being a Turok Fan

Welcome to the Party.
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>>337391353
How do you get it that cheap? what the fuck
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>>337385867
fus ro DAH!!! xD
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>>337392123
cdkeys.com with that code in the image senpai
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>>337392062
When doom first launched gaming was not a popular thing to be into, PC gaming was almost entirely relegated to basement dwellers.
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>>337388071
>That chromatic aberration to hide the textures
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>>337392080
go for it
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>>337392101
but that's false.

>>337392105
the sources are all dead, because Zenimax hit all the D44M leak videos with b& hammer mere hours later.
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>>337383757
No shit
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>>337392275

What does that have to do with casuals? the game is literally played by even modern day casuals and enjoying it

If you're going to complain abouit something

complain about the settings, gameplay, design

Not a dumb reference you'll easily miss unless you REALLY have an agenda to find it
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>>337392105
You can watch it on twitch right now. Guy is just about to fight cyberdemon
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>>337392487
I get the joke but i'm not laughing
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>>337392487

>Lets place a health system on top of another one and that'll prove a point!
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>>337392487
Kek, should've turned autorun off to make it even better.
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>>337392664
Check out Mr. Joke-Getter over here.
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>>337392741
>Lets place a health system on top of another one

??
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>>337392425
>>337392559
>J-J-Just listen and believe!!
>still no source
every time
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>>337392487
that shotgun has way too much stopping power and too little spread to be like the D44M's shotgun.
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>>337393052
draqu_
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>>337392986

Doom has a health system of simply picking up health packs and armor packs

Doom 4 is more about killing enemies to regain health and picking up armor

Adding Doom 4's Health system to the older games will obviously make it bad because there's already one in place, thus making it seems shitty and easy
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>>337389019
Fallout 4 is still shit on, it's just people got tired of shitting on it. It never got any positive praise here.
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>>337384378

SENPAI
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>>337393334
But Doom 4 has health pickups too
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wow no one talks about the $40 season pass? shits expensive as a standalone game
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Is this a bad reference
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>>337385867
us gamers huh? :^)
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>>337392487
thanks, I snorted coffee all over the kb
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>>337393052
So what's up anon,why are you so silent after you got your source?
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>>337393705
what is that even
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>>337393334
Doom 4 has health packs across the map too.
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>>337393940
the background is from E4M9.
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>>337393940
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>>337393939
what did he mean by this?
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>>337389202
F
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>>337394003
>>337393552

Well shit, thought it was just based around killing enemies to pick up health

Well, not it falls on the amount of damage you take I suppose

I'm sure anything other was hard+ difficulty is extremely easy
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>>337394357
>I'm sure anything other was hard+ difficulty is extremely easy
http://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561198045124431
on normal (hurt me plenty)
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>>337394357
Streamer is playing on nightmare and it doesn't look too tough. He's died from time to time though. Ultra nightmare is the highest difficulty but it just adds permadeath. Oh yeah enemies don't respawn on nightmare in this game
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>>337394357
Fodder zombies do about 37 damage if they melee you. Imps do about 35 with their fireballs.
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>>337388069
This ending was great
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I like it.
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>>337393940
Looks like a doom based match 43 game like bejeweled
>>
looks fun and has good graphics

I'm glad they're going back to the point and shooty roots of FPS.

The gtx 1080 benchmarks are pretty crazy as well. I'll probably wait to get a new card and then play it on max.
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>>337385867

Okay, I'm driving to Maryland to blow up Bethesda's headquarters. It's bad enough that Todd took Fallout from us. I'm not going to let him take Doom too.
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>>337394975
timestamp your weapons
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>>337394968
>point and shooty roots of FPS.
doesnt know it has god of war root too.
>>
Some of you guys are alright.
Don't go to Maryland tomorro.w
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>>337394807
me too
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>>337394556

Unless he sucks, he seems to be having a pretty hard time

Plus the gameplay

Looks faster than previous titles

So what's the issue here?
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>>337385867

>It's the same model from Skyrim
JESUS CHRIST TODD
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>>337383757
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>337385867
wow id
>>
fuck this, I'm going back to Blood Dragon.
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>>337395194
Maybe he does suck. Other guy is playing on nightmare, but he has experience in twitch shooters
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Guys I'm at chapter 8 when this boring shit end it?
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>>337385867
>>337395245
>They didn't even update the texture on it
Oh lawd.
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>>337395194
dude has decent aim. but he doesnt move so good.
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>>337393052

>>337393908 here.
Did you kill yourself anon?
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Why does every gun have like 20 ammo?
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>>337392106
BRING HIM BACK
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>>337395194
He seems to suck ass, those jumps of desperation with low health and no strafe shows that he doesn't know the basics, about being faster i doubt that, it cut like 3 times to do an animation, like open the door with his hands, that intro for the Demon was cancerous and when he picked up that new weapon it was like 5 or more seconds with an animation showing it on his own face before changing again to his guns, those seconds means that they could probably fuck your insides during combat.
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i got the game early and played it recently

my concern right now is why the hell is the pistol infinite ammo? and where's the fists?
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>>337385867
>bunch of people throwing a shit fit over a dumb joke

I think I've outgrown this place.
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>>337389703
I didn't mind the characterisation in TNO because it simultaneously didn't take itself super serious and pulled off making the characters at least enjoyable. Level design was linear, but felt more in the line of Half Life 2.

Also the Jew Gold Concrete was fucking hilarious. I could feel the stormfag butthurt.

Only issue is you didn't get to use the Jew Mecha suit
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>>337384242
ASSHOLE
>>
>hell section lasts a half hour
>at least 4 "kill-all-enemies-to-proceed" arenas
>bland as fuck brown floating rocks everywhere

is there more or was that seriously it
>>
>>337395831

>TRIGGERED
Like, I don't know, Anon. It's like, you know, like the game is trying to like, balance itself out over time, like a good game should, like you know?
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>>337395872
You can use fists when you get berserk power up it's pretty great actually
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>>337393705
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>>337385867
Why contain it?
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>>337385867
XD
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>>337396017
It's not an instakill finisher animation, right?
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>>337396001
>having no ammo because no fun allowed is balancing now

Are you by chance retarded?
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>>337395854

The game stopping for a second to introduce a new enemy or a gun or opening a door doesn't slow it down, that'll only be an issue when it CONSTANTLY does it, which it seems it doesn't
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>>337396142
it is lad
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>>337395831
You need to upgrade max ammo, because that makes sense
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>>337396187
>Stops to introduce a new weapon during mid fight
That is not bad game design?
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>>337396142
think about the answer to this question that would piss you off the most, and that's probably it.
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>>337383757
This is the best news ever. Fuck reviewers and fuck all other game midia too. Im nuying it juat because of this
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>>337396212
>upgrade for more ammo capacity
>heals from melee cinematic executions

Feels like they had no idea how to do proper pick placement in the levels so they had to limit you artificially
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The boss actually has a health bar
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>>337396287
Hardly

And like I stated before, IF only it does it constantly like, turning around every cornor you stop for X reason

Which from watching the stream, seems it doesn't

But I haven't played the game yet so my opinion doesn't weigh much
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>>337396428
>health bar

now tell me in my face that it is not casualization
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>>337396554
But in that very stream the guy picked up that hologram thing and Doomguy pulled it out just to watch it while demons were charging at him and then pulled out the weapons again
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>>337396621

>Health Bars are now an indication of casual game design

Well shit, what's next? Starting the game using a shortcut is casual? I mean, I can navigate the folders and use the .exe that's much more hardcore
>>
So how many of you are playing it on consoles.
I'm planning to get it for PC, because apparently Nvidia did a better tech demo than bethsoft wanted.
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>>337396914
>he doesn't launch his games the hardcore way
pff fucking casuals these days
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>>337396621
As much of a watered down piece of shit this game is I see no problem with health bars, especially for a bullet sponge like cyberdemon.
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>>337396621
It's not like it really changes anything. Either way you're just shooting at it until it dies. I'm just curious why they added a health bar to the second stage of the fight when the first stage didn't have it
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>>337396914
Kill yourself
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I gotta admit triple minigun is fucking rad
>>
Has any streamer played the E1M2 Remake?

Can we at least make labyrinth style levels?
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>>337388413
Just like Halflife 2 "didn't have cutscenes" they just made all the cutscenes play out through the in-game engine using scripting and model animations.
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>>337387954
This looks exactly like Destiny.
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>>337397112
Isn't that the normal chaingun though?
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>>337392487

perfect
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>>337393182
>draqu_
the game looks fun tbqh
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>>337383757
why do you guys keep shitting on this game
it's not that bad
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>>337397361
yeah, except HL2 does not take out your control and move the character for you, "cinematically", like D44M does.
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>>337385437
Is it me or does the Spider Mastermind look like Needles Kane from Twisted Metal?
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>>337397278
Yes, it's not 100% accurate to the original, what the designer did was lay down a bunch of really big empty rooms and connectors and he built the maze section using carefully placed tall props.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nDdAF_4xbk&feature=youtu.be
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>>337397112
I only see a single minigun though.
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>>337397571
but it is.
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Wow, SnapMap is fucking terrible. This is E1M2 that developers ignored to show during livestream, for a reason.
>>
>>337385867

my favorite franchise getting butchered. I knew it was coming yet it still hurts
>>
>>337397112
Hey, is the walking speed upgradable or do you start at full speed? Seen conflicting reports.
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>>337397382
>This game on console looks like a game made for consoles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrvBD4aTGY
Set the quality to 1080p60, etc. This just feels better from what I keep hearing about the other "gameplay showcases" or whatever the fuck people are doing.
>>337397584
I barely see it.
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>>337397556
How far through the game is he? He already has all the runes. This is only the second time he's visiting hell though

Also he really sounds like a guy I knew a couple years ago, now I can't stop wondering if it actually is him
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>>337397679
Welcome to the club.
You can only imagine my pain, being also a Silent Hill and MGS fan.
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>>337397571
It's bland and unmemorable
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>>337397584
It does have a bit of a clown thing going on there with the brain
>>
>>337397814


hold me, anon
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>>337396428
Thats a really small looking cyber demon.
>>
So can anyone confirm you get more enemies in higher difficulty levels?
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>>337395919
I feel the same way
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>>337397676
what
how is that e1m2
>>
>>337397931
they only get harder and faster, nothing else

and pretty much glory kill everything to survive, its tedious
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>>337395293
>I want off this ride
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>>337397712
start with full speed it's p fast
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>>337397924
It's hunched over somehow there. It was quite big when it was standing normally. Don't like the design at all though
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>>337397712
Its upgradable
Whoever is saying its not is fucking lying, because we saw countless amounts of footage
>>
This game is pretty fukkin' fun
zipping around slapping demons buttholes and making them explode and shit.
No reloading is fucking amazing. No hoarding thousands of bullets here, just keep shooting and running over ammo packs.
>>
>>337397646
That was fucking terrible
No wonder they didn't show it off during the stream
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>>337384294
You should not have existed
>>
Something feels off about the sizes of the enemies. The look too small compared to the levels. And it's not like the levels are huge, the proportions are just somehow off. Like you are playing with ants.
>>
Do bodies disappear? Can you disable cleanup if so? One of the best parts of DOOM is looking back at a floor of dead demons.
>>
This game is not for you.

It is for the early-20-something "us gamers" crowd that acts like they grew up with Doom.
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>>337398049
Sounds pretty lame.

I'll give this a 6/10
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Here's the final boss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vx0dncDJzQ
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>>337398286

yeah because I want a brand new game to have an engine so archaic the protagonist runs at 85mph and there's no aiming because you can't move vertically without steps
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>>337398095
Thought so. The speed boosts are for weapon switching and other things.
>>337398138
Have you played it personally?
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>>337385867
More like Mountain Doomritos
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>>337387954
Wow, Borderlanders 3 looks great.
>>
>>337397646
Well that was ass. So much for the Snapmap being great.

I just hope we get an immiediate sequel that fixes all the wrongs of D44M and gives mod support.
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>>337398456
Pretty fucking metal/10
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>>337398475
The run speed wasn't an engine limitation
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>>337398521
>Mountain Doomritos
fuck you for make me laugh
>>
I love that le arrow to the knee XD is triggering people so hard.

It's a silly little reference. Get the fuck over it.
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>>337397905
it's daijobu...

>>337397676
>the mapeditor literally only has pre-made rooms you can connect to each other
>people are surprised when they can't make actually original maps, or even replicate THE originals.
gullibility really is contagious.
In the end, it's us "jokers" laughing once more.

>tfw the game will still be GOTY
>>
The glory kills systems seems like it ruins a lot of the game because it's designed around it.
I mean SS3 also added melee kills but they had very little impact on the overall gameplay. Here it seems like if you want to survive on higher difficulties you have to use them for the heals because they can't be bothered placing actual pickups in the levels.
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>>337398434
"no cutscenes", huh?
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>>337398630
y-yeah, shut up n-nerds!
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>>337398545
They'll keep adding shit to SnapMap. It'll only get better as time goes on. Plus Hell assets are confirmed as free DLC.
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>>337398434
>That garbage ending with some gay robot
A fucking Shareware game did it better 20 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN7Z0V-XyKU
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>>337398745
>They'll keep adding shit to SnapMap.
>It'll only get better as time goes on.
>Hell assets are confirmed as free DLC.
>DLC for the map editor
We are never fucking ever getting modding tools, aren't we?
>>
>>337398630

hi todd
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>>337385489
Who is this faggot. He should have his whole article raided in the comments
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>>337398745
Phase: Denial.
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Reviews matter except for when they don't.

/v/ Rule Number 32
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>>337398434
>cliff-hanger ending
>there will be more doom games of this format

I WANT TO WAKE UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE
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>>337398902
Marty said they're considering it.
>>337398931
You caught me. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go swim naked in my pool of shekels.

Stay mad cucks.
>>
>>337398679
>Here it seems like if you want to survive on higher difficulties you have to use them for the heals because they can't be bothered placing actual pickups in the levels.
I told this to people already couple weeks ago, but people called me "b8".
Heck, Todd himself told that those invincibility frames during Glory kills are an essential "tactic" on higher difficulties. And don't even think about playing without upgrades.
>>
>>337385489
Should've been a bit more subtle.
>>
I'm a poorfag who's pissed it has Denuvo.
>>
>>337383757

game arrived 1 day early, it's pretty fun and fast enough. Already found a few easter eggs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsl9Z8RLojs
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>>337399064
Reviews never matter
DEWM is trite and I can clearly see it
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>>337399094
> CAN'T WAKE UP
>>
I'm watching TB's stream on this right now. It seems to be as good as I was hoping it to be, which is better than /v/ says it is.
>>
>>337399237
expect a crack to appear sometime next week.
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>>337399205
so we are basically forced to play it their way huh

fuck this
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>>337398434
>guns take up third of the screen
holy fucking shit,it's fucking disgusting
>>
>>337399064
Who is this spunk monk?
>>
>>337398434
That was almost as painful as the Shadow Warrior Bosses.
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>>337399094
>cliff-hanger ending
how they dare!
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>>337385867
>this is enough to ruin the majority of /v/s fun
wow you guys get mad over the little things
>>
>>337399302
Why should I? They haven't even cracked Just Cause 3 yet and that came out in December.
>>
>>337398434
>no HMPH when he falls
0/10
>>
>entitled faggots think they deserve to be given a copy for free
cant wait til the industry surpasses this catering to eceleb bullshit, we'd be better for it
>>
>>337399428
People actually wanted a sequel to that game, though.
>>
>>337399281
This, it looks about as good as TNO
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>>337399428
>that damage control

he's talking about how there will be more doom games like that
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>>337399247
Those were revealed on ign a while back. Every level has one and it unlocks the full map
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Look at this video and cry /v/. Cry at how they managed to destroy a great name and make it worse then shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sW7jp0u0PI
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>>337399428
Episode 2 and 3 were still part of Doom 1 though. Episode 1 was a shareware demo to make people buy the full game
>>
>>337398434
I feel so bad for doom fans after all these years a cliff hanger and shit tier gameplay. press F to pay respects
>>
>>337399428
>the ending to Knee Deep in the Dead, which was free
why are you so fucking dumb

you could have at least posted daisy but you didn't even play doom, did you
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>>337385867
FUCKING TOD
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>>337391974
>>
Denuvo news?
>>
>>337398434
that Ending. did they serously get the voice actor for that robot from age of ultron. money well spent right guys...
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>>337385867
aaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCK YOUUUUU
>>
>>337399782
>those continuous stops in movement for glory kills
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD and some of you faggots were arguing there was no such thing
>>
I was actually gonna buy it before denuvo, even if it is just halo with demons
>>
I'm picking up my PS4 copy tomorrow

I don't want more of the old shit
>>
>>337387543
>>337388951
>>337388957
>>337390290
>>337395919
>>337399439
Meme apologists, go play Memerlands
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>>337385867
>>337385867
>ARROW IN THE KNEE OP!!
>ARROW IN THE KNEE OP!!
>xDDDD
just
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>>337398434
You know that sound when you're waiting at a red light and some douche in the car next to you is blasting music with really heavy bass?
That's what this entire game sounds like to me.
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>>337400409
Think you got a shit sound system bruh.
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>>337398434
>"I'm not the Villian of this Story, I do what I do because there is no choice."

How fucking Cliche can you get? And he litterally G-Man Statused him at the end? Complete fucking cop out, as much as I don't want it to happen D44M 2H4ME is pretty much confirmed at this point.

Fucking Bethesda.
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I don't know why they even bothered, there's probably never going to be another game like DOOM where everything pretty much falls into the right place.
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>>337400694

you mean because there's no room to invent an entirely new genre anymore? yeah I agree
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It's so close yet so far away. Better than Painkiller or Serious Sam (IMO) but then they had to add in modernization that just fuck it up.

>Skill Points
>Melee Finishers give you bonuses instead of just being a fun option
>Not enough enemies
>No Mod Tools
>No maze like maps where you have to explore
>Pinata enemies remove the tensions of looking for items

I hope they learn from their mistakes because like Wolfenstein TNO this could be a massively enjoyable game but then some idiot had to insert modernizations into the game.
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>>337387954

Doom 3 Mars surface looked better than this.
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>>337398434
This ending fit DOOM way more
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>>337400806

>twenty sixteen
>wanting games to have archaic bullshit mechanics like backtracking
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>>337398434
at least there's a final boss in the first place
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>>337400806
>SLOW
>slower when strafing
>massive gun models
>mini cutscenes
>everything is piss weak
This game was doomed from the start anon.
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>>337400806
>better than Serious sam

You can't be Serious
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>>337388273
>>337398959
Come on, guys... Really? Use your heads.
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Anyone having trouble launching the game?
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>>337400806
>better than painkiller or SS

Blasphemy
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>>337400806
>Better than serious sam
Be serious with me anon
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>>337401024

Yeah but I had more problems getting my time machine to make it Friday to work
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>>337400805
Doom didn't invent fps
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>>337385867
BAZINGA BAZINGA BAZINGA BAZINGA
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>>337401024
You shouldn't be having trouble with the game since you shouldn't own the worthless trash.
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>>337401079
You have to jam more kangaroo meat into it
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>>337385489

>polygon

Literally the least relevant videogame "journalism" website since kotaku.
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>>337400806
What's wrong with Painkiller/SS?
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>>337400901
That's the most metal ending in the history of video games
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>>337385867

No, Please no.
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>>337397679

>an easter egg in a game means the franchise is "butchered"

Just fucking kill yourself.
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>>337401095
wwaaiitt aa mmiinnuuttee tthhaatt ccaarrdd
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>DOOM isn't even out yet
>People shitcanning it without playing it
>Overwatch isn't even out yet
>People hitting image and bump limit in multiple threads talking about how fuckable the girls are

I think I see where DOOM messed up, they should have made the marines sexy women
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>>337385867
That's one doomed Skyrim
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>>337401262
Pretty much
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Here's a PSA from ou life-long friend Notch.
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>>337401324
You gonna conveniently forget the butchered gameplay, modes, and direction on top of that?
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>pre-order price, 60 bucks
>1 minute after launch, 40 bucks
What the fuck?
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>>337401371
>isn't out yet
there are more than enough videos and livestreams to form an opinion on them m8

>b-but you're not PLAYING them you're just WATCHING
yeah the only difference is i'm not pressing the buttons myself, big deal
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>>337400901
> remain in hell and kill demons until you die

man/10
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>>337401371
They should have made HDoom.
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>>337401578

>bawww things are different than they were 23 years ago

Did you know that inability to accept change is a symptom of autism?
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>>337401231
>>337401069
>>337401034
I'm sorry but Serious Sam just never felt as focused as Doom 1 and 2 is. Croteam has made some fun stuff but much of Serious Sam is "DUDE LET'S JUST THROW A SHITLOAD OF ENEMIES AT YOU LMAO."

The classic ID Games have tension to them. And from what I've seen Doom 4 has some of that shine to it. It's just short of reaching what made the originals so great.

Maybe it's nostalgia (although I didn't really grow up with these games honestly) but I still regularly start Doom, Quake and Quake 2 up from the first level and have a blast. Can't say I do that with Serious Sam.
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>>337401495
I hate his guts, but at least the man has some fucking standards when it comes to video games. Aside from this own creation
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>>337385867
typical bethesda bs, they have time to put shit like this all over fallout 4(teddy bears all over toilets and shit) but don't fix their bugs or improve their shit game mechanics.
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>/v/ is shitting on this game
>/v/ had shills out the ass for the new Shadow Warrior despite it using almost all of the same new cancerous shit like upgrade trees/shitty redesign enemies/shitty bosses/FUCKING CUTSCENES!

I'm going to probably only have alittle fun with the new Doom but tell me what makes Shadow Warrior different? It had fucking spongey as fuck enemies even more so then i've seen from the new Doom its bosses were basically big dude recoated. The only thing it seemed to do better was guns not covering your fucking screen.
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>>337401742
Congrats, you avoided all attempts to rebuke any criticisms to call me an autist. I'm devastated.
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>>337401742
but tell us why exactly things had to change? what was broken about doom that they fixed in nudoom?
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>>337401372
"I'm gonna buy your company and meme down your game" - ZeniMax
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>>337401817
>Serious Sam is "DUDE LET'S JUST THROW A SHITLOAD OF ENEMIES AT YOU LMAO."
>this is what passes for "games criticism" on /v/
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>>337401871

You don't have any criticism. Calling something "butchered" isn't criticism. It's just pointless bitching.
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>>337401495
Notch did nothing wrong and the people still upset that Minecraft didn't become the ultimate game ever are fucking autists.
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>>337398434
Why is the music so fucking horrible.
Why is the boss just a giant bullet sponge with no weak points.
Why is Ultron in this, it's very distracting.
Why is it a shitty cliffhanger.
Why is the dialogue so fucking awful.
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>>337401817
I dunno man, if you don't think jumping around like crazy avoiding kleers charging at you while constant AAAAAAAAAAAA plays in the background is tense enough then I don't know what is.
Especially on Serious difficulty.
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>>337402051
Why are the maps just small arenas connected by hallways?
Why can't I make real single player maps?
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>>337401742
>bawww things are different than they were 23 years ago
That's a fancy way to say "worse"
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>>337401817
>. Croteam has made some fun stuff but much of Serious Sam is "DUDE LET'S JUST THROW A SHITLOAD OF ENEMIES AT YOU LMAO."

You suck. Serious Sam is about knowing which weapon to use against which enemy in which situation. If you play it at a high difficulty, it becomes a first person bullethell and dodging projectiles/kleers while switching back and forth between the appropriate weapons transports you onto a zen like state. Kinda like Bayonetta.

>The classic ID Games have tension to them.
And SS doesn't? Attempting to get the cathedral king achievement gave me the biggest adrenaline rush of my life.
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>>337385867
WHY
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>>337398434

>Sluggish clunky aiming

Is this on console? Doesn't look comfortable to play at all
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>>337401887

>what was broken about a two decade old formula based around confined maps, auto-aim, and backtracking
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Time for dem refunds, lads.
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the trailers were awful but the more gameplay I see the more I want to get it

fuck 43gb tho thats 6 hours to download for me
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>>337401987
you can't be serious. saying something is butchered is criticism

kill yourself
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>>337401817
>"DUDE LET'S JUST THROW A SHITLOAD OF ENEMIES AT YOU LMAO."
That doesn't sound like serious criticism.
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>>337402248
>refund

I hope you didn't play the wolfestein game that came along
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>>337402237
So what did they fix? Auto-aim is still there. Confined maps are still there.
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>>337401817
> Most of Serious Sam is just "Let's throw enemies at the player lol"
> Classic Id had tension

How is Serious Sam's approach not a valid way of approaching building tension in an FPS? You need to play the games again or at least First Encounter.
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>>337402186
Ok fine then, name me a Sam to replay. Better that I play a game than shitpost on /v/.
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>>337385867
Is it at least a decently hidden secret?
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>>337402285
I fucking love these.
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>>337402360
all of them
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>>337402237
well you can see all these people complaining about how the new game objectively isn't as good as the old games, and some have legit criticisms rather than
>I DONT LIKE IT
>ITS BETHESDA
so yes, what was broken about it
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>>337401817
>Serious Sam is "DUDE LET'S JUST THROW A SHITLOAD OF ENEMIES AT YOU LMAO."
So your problem is that you have to fight a lot of enemies? Why is that bad? The game is designed around that, wide open levels, avoidable damage, powerful weapons.
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Guys, I have the game

Look at these fucking texture issues
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>>337402454
Ok then I'm starting with 1 HD.
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>>337401887
Nothing was broken.
But a re release of doom would not sell, it HAD to change if Beth and ID wanted to turn a profit

You shouldnt be mad, none of the original team are involved with this, those developers you loved didnt turn on you, the owners of the IP just wanted to make a quick buck.
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>>337402514
D44MED
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>>337402051
>>337400901
>>337400601
>>337398434

>doom
>good bossfights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN7Z0V-XyKU

I swear half of the faggots complaining about D44M never even finished the third episode.
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>>337402514
good ol betheda. can't wait for the damage control
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>>337402360
>both first and second encounter HD
Doesn't second encounter have all the levels?
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>>337402608
God bless you.

I'm currently playing SS3 on serious difficulty
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>>337402410
At least Commander Keen was a part of id's legacy and not "LOL SKYRIM MEME"
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>>337402641
What difficulty is that?
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>>337402514
Seriously? Textures? Fucking textures? Not gameplay? Textures?. Kill yourself.
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>>337402514
>With textures ported straight from Doom 1!
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>>337392463
>cant wake up
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>>337402641
>neo-/v/ actually thinks old Doom is so hardcore and not casual as fuck
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>>337402737

I haven't seen any definitive proof that that bait post wasn't just a shitty photoshop

Why the fuck would the corpse only have the helmet
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>>337402509
FYI I'm not saying I hate Serious Sam I just don't think it can hold a candle to Quake.

There's just something special about those old ID Games. I don't even think Duke Nukem is close to being as good as Doom was. Only other classic FPS I hold such fondness for is Blood.
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>>337402627
oh no i understand, it's a ca$h grab absolutely and while everyone is always upset at a butchering of a good franchise, it's just pathetic when the source material is really easy to recreate faithfully and still add genuinely interesting things to

which is why i think a re-release would work easily, you already got the original assets and making doom 1 today would be HELLA easier than it was back then, sales would very easily surpass costs of development

i mean shit dude it's sad when an indie game named Ziggurat is more faithful to doom than doom 4
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>>337402360
Revolution, goes right from TFE's final boss to TSE's first level with no interruption.
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These threads are more of a learning experience for how many anons hated TNO/TOB, I just played both a month ago, and were probably some of the best pure shooters I've played in a while, what gives?

Also: DEEP LORE
http://www.rinkworks.com/apogee/s/2.8.6.2.shtml
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>>337400806
>Better than Painkiller or Serious Sam
literal shit taste
just off yourself
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>>337402941
>I haven't seen any definitive proof that that bait post wasn't just a shitty photoshop
It was on the twitch stream that's been mentioned throughout this thread several times.
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>>337402941
It's in the game, several people screencapped it. There was also a Commander Keen reference
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>>337398434
>I'm not the villain of this story. I do what I do because there is no choice.
Uhh did they accidentally use the rough draft of the script?
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Nice game.
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>>337396914
>not chmoding all your executables in your CLI
>not creating a makefile to do it for you
>not playing doom on your ibm 8088

GET A LOAD OF THIS FAGGOT GUYS WOW LOL
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>>337384830
Strafe?
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>>337395245

It was in Wolfenstein: Old Blood as well. It wasn't a lame meme joke though. Just a random ancient helment among ancient artifacts, except you could collect it and get armor just like with nazi helmets.
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>>337388417
Normies generally didn't start playing PC vidya until the 00's
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>Get power up
>Go full fist fighting glory killing everything
Glorious.
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>>337403330
I too love Halo.
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>>337403330

isn't Mars supposed to be hotter than the Earth, why is it snowy
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>>337402812
"Hey, not too rough". Cut me some slack, I was 15 when I made this shitty video. Regardless, the Spider Mastermind is a horrible bossfight. Hitscan doesn't belong in a game like doom. You can't fight this motherfucker without taking damage. There is no skill involved, it's a literal DPS race to the death. Meanwhile D44M's final boss, while being a shitty bullet sponge, at least has projectile weapons that you can avoid. Actually, D44M seems to be completed devoid of any hitscan enemies, which is a great design decisions that even the developers of Serious Sam don't grasp for some reason.

>inb4 shill
No fuck you. I like Serious Sam style shooters, and this game scathes that itch. I bet half of the fucking teenagers hating on this game just do so because they want to fit in with the "/v/ culture" of having "superior taste" which translates to shitting on literally anything. Have you niggers seen the gameplay footage on PC? This is a solid shooter. No hitscan. No HP regen. No reload. No overly dramatic wannabe Half Life 2 cut-scenes. It's everything good shooters haven't been in decades and you people shit on it because doomguy doesn't run at 200 mph anymore.
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i bet 10 bucks the paid reviews will treat this piece of shit exacly like DmC, saying how fresh and awesome and whatever while talking shit about the fans saying how they're destroying a masterpiece because of reasons.
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>>337403619
By fist-fighting, you mean one shotting everything in a canned animation like with the chainsaw, right?
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>>337403330
yeah halo looks great
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>>337403570
>Normies generally didn't start playing PC vidya until the 00's

>>337403653
>isn't Mars supposed to be hotter than the Earth, why is it snowy

Can you guys breath and type at the same time?
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>first weapon you get is a pistol with infinite ammo
>quick melee button instead of fist as its own weapon slot

Fuck that shit.
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>>337402812
Doom did a lot of things right, and one of them is that enemy and item spawns change as you turn up the difficulty instead of making the same enemies soak up hundreds of bullets. But as a consequence the Spider Mastermind goes down like a bitch on all difficulties. All that changes is a Baron getting spawned in one of the corners as well.
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>>337403757
Right.
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>>337403119
>There was also a Commander Keen reference
I need this right now.
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>>337403653
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>>337403330
Killzone 3 was really underrated IMO
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I'm picking up my copy tomorrow, I should probably get the season pass too

Hell if what I do triggers a bunch of fat NEETs who want the game industry to remain the same way it was 20 years ago that's just a bonus
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>>337403619
Exploding demons into a bloody pulp with one punch felt more satisfying than press x to to mega kill.
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>>337402812
Classic Doom difficulty only determines enemy count outside of the easiest and hardest difficulty, both of which will double the ammo given from drops.
Nightmare will also make enemies attack and never stop attacking until you break line of sight along with enemy respawns
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>>337403729
hitscan has a place in doom but not to the extent of chaingunners or beyond
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>>337403653
>isn't Mars supposed to be hotter than the Earth, why is it snowy
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>>337385867
here's my reply!
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>post yfw shills are recklessly damage controlling a lost cause of a game
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>>337403913
>I'm picking up my copy tomorrow, I should probably get the season pass too
reeeee, so mad rn!!!!
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>>337403729
>You can't fight this motherfucker without taking damage

Hide behind the building in the middle and shoot spidey when he walks on the other side
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>>337388172
It's been leaked 3 days ago son.
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>>337403862
Well it was just a skull with the Keen helmet
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>>337404124
Is that really a strategy you want in a Doom game
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>>337403954
>>337403851

Enteresting to learn, thank you both.

Does anyone know how NuDoom does it? do enemies take more hits on the higher settings?
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>>337404251

clearly if gunfights in DOOM don't boil down to "strafe at 90MPH while shooting rockets" it's not a good game

why else would /v/ be so butthurt over a game being different
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>pay $30 for this game in a cdkey website

Because it certainly does not worth full price
>>
>Appealing to Nostalgiafags
>>
In a month /v/ will be defending this game and trying to get it a GOTY award just like they did with Wolf TNO.
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>>337404223
>trusty pistol is now an ugly pew pew pew laser pistol
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>>337404223
Fucking tournament level play.
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>>337404420

does it at least have the MIDI music?
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>>337404251
Well I guess you can also run around him. But I don't see what's wrong with using the environment to block shots
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>>337404223
too me that looks less like bad aim and more like he is just fucking zoning out for parts at a time
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>>337404384
This, strafing and then watching a two second cutscene every time you kill something is so much better
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>>337404223
>this is who they made doom for
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>>337404384
Camp behind a pillar and shoot at exposed limbs isn't really great boss design.
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>>337404124
>having to take cover
Fuck that. Dodging projectiles is way more fun.

>Hide behind the building in the middle
While being attacked by respawning Cacodemons. Fuck hitscan. Make it projectiles, make them hard to dodge, but make them dodge-able. Projectiles have a way higher skill ceiling than hitscan will ever have. Hell, hitscan is the reason regeneration health ever became a thing in the first place.
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I played it for 5 minutes and so far it's meh. I'll try again sober if it's worse.
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>>337403913
>blaming neets for ruining gaming
>buys season pass for cash grab game
Pot meet kettle
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>>337385867
There are many things that need to be erased
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>>337404336
Also forgot to mention, the easiest difficulty in classic Doom halves the damage you take.

All the reasons listed is why Ultra-Violence is the standard difficulty of choice for most players along with speedrunners.
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>>337404223
PROFESSIONAL
VIDEO GAME
REVIEWER
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>>337404665
>While being attacked by respawning Cacodemons

Just dodge their projectiles :^)
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>>337404482
No.
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>>337404420
Wow, they did a good job of capturing the atmosphere of the original
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>>337402285

No, it's not a criticism. It's just bitching. There is nothing reasonable about saying something was "butchered." It's a subjective opinion that is not based on objective fact in any way, which is why it's not criticism. You're just a dumb cunt.
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>>337389202
F
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>>337404665
Hitscan enemies can be interesting when mixed with projectile enemies since you'll be forced to target those hitscan enemies down before you take more damage. That means you'll have to dodge projectiles while shooting at the hitscan enemies
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>>337389202
>F
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im looking at all these videos and they don't seem that bad to me :/
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>>337389202
FUCK
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>>337389202
F...u todd
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>>337404992

whats with the spoopy eyeballs
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>>337402641
I still don't get why there's a severed deer head there
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>>337405070
So is it subjective that Gearbox is butchering Duke Nukem by making him say bazinga?
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>>337403729
Serious Sam style is exactly my problem with it.

I want mazy level design with monsters organically placed in the layout. I want to explore for the keys

Not go through linear pathways, with occasional arena rooms that lock me in until i kill everything. Thats boring.
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>>337405385
god mode is eneabled
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>>337404848
Which will make you run into the hitscan fire of the Spider Mastermind. Please stop defending this shitty boss fight.

>>337405149
I guess that's a matter of preference, but on higher difficulties it becomes a pain in the ass. Also this bossfight is literally the reverse. There is a giant hitscan enemy and you have to take down weaker projectile enemies that keep respawning. If you just focus on the hitscan there isn't even a point to the other enemies, aside from forcing you to leave your cover.
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>>337404420
>gun is not in the middle of the screen
>didn't change over to the old UI
They fucked up
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>>337405603
>Which will make you run into the hitscan fire of the Spider Mastermind

Not necessarily
>>
Nice fanta filter.
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>>337405603
I was thinking about "normal" gameplay, they'll want you to kill the zombie marines first
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>>337405465

Yes, it is, but you're in luck: Duke Nukem Forever is an objectively shit game.
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> The fucking soul cube is in the lazarus labs
Doom 3 confirmed canon.
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>>337405827
What happened to fleshy meat walls and other cool shit that stood out
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>>337405550
>mazy level design
Literal dogshit. Why do people have nostalgia for those? There are an fuckload of build engines games and thousands of wads for DOOM 1 & 2, why don't you go play those instead? You're like that guy that misses random encounters from final fantasy. An archaic mechanic that nobody liked in the first place. Running around a maze for serval minutes is fucking boring. Also don't act like Serious Sam doesn't have huge maps where you need to search for keys to open a door, because it does. Also exploration is rewarded with secrets and two secret levels. Not to mention that D44M too seems to have keys. And with snap-map, people can make maps that are just as mazy as the originals.
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