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So how's the port?
Fuck off
Currently locked at 30fps
>>337368176
Well this thread started off at shit
>>337368249
Is the PS4 version locked to 30 fps?
>>337368397
15 actually
>>337368397
Do you have to ask?
>>337368429
as much as this looks like bait I sadly kind of believe you
>>337368521
sonnyniggers brain wouldn't even be able to tell a difference, they eat lies like chicken wings.
30 fps, no out of the box engine text Japanese voices despite having to download both voice sets at once
>>337368078
still downloading
Does anyone actually give a shit about FPS on a final fantasy? It seems like about the most irrelevant thing to bitch about.
>30 FPS
Fucking why?
It isn't like a DaS2 situation where the mechanics of the game are tied to the frame rate right?
Unless 60fps breaks shit like the lightning dodge or the race for Tidus' celestial
>>337368078
I enjoy it.
>>337369056
>Unless 60fps breaks shit like the lightning dodge or the race for Tidus' celestial
It does
>>337368964
>PCfags gloat about how powerful PC is and say how 30fps is unplayable
>now this post appears
Backpedaling much?
>>337369474
>there are more than 1 person on /v/
Who knew?
30 fps have always been playable to me. Obviously 60 fps is preferable, but 30 fps have never stopped me from properly enjoying a game. Hell, I played Dragon's Dogma and loved it.Granted 25 and lower is unplayable.
>>337369474
>/v/ is just one person
Each person can form its own individual opinion, you know?
>>337368078
Lifeless
>>337369702>25 and lower is unplayableYou'refuckingretarded.
>>337369969
It's really unfortunate that they fucked up the faces so badly because everything else looks much better.
>>337369474
DELETE THIS
>40GB
>>337369996
Maybe, all I know is around 25 is the cutoff where I can't not get past it. 30 will be a bit annoying for like 10-15 minutes before you get used to it, but below that it just does not happen. It's to choppy.
Japanese voice is tied to Japanese text. Mod when?
>>337368964
Even walking in a straight line in 20 fps is unbearable. MENUS in 20 fps are unbearable
>>337368964
I definitely do. I can't stand 15 fps battles. even if it doesn't need to be 30 or 60 it just looks shitty for no good reason.
>>337370183
What did you expect when the games on PS2 were huge as well. FFX was probably dual layered DVD, and FFX2 was smaller but still adds on there
>>337369969
>>337370030
I don't even understand why.
>>337370183
Guess it's waiting for another repack for me. Seriously, why are companies, SE especially, so fucking bad at compression and shit like that?
>>337370183
You'd think japs would at the least know what winzip is.
>30 fps
>potato faces
>now this
If they bork XII like this I will be upset.
>>337370442
>I don't even understand why.
Because Squeenix made the original character models, while the remaster models were made by chinks.
>>337370442
You don't want the FMV to be compressed. It looks like shit compressed. Artifacts everywhere.
>>337370403
FF X on PS2 is only 4 GB dude
are the FMV's still cropped?
>>337370459
>>potato faces
All HD animu models are potato faced
>>337369474
>PC users are 1 person
>>337370516
It actually doesn't when modern codecs are used but they require licensing which isn't cheap and it snowballs from there. The reason they use the worst compression shit available or in case of audio, frequently none at all, is so they don't have to pay random codec royalties.
>>337370624
Catherine and Persona 5 aren't and FFX isn't an anime game.
>>337369056
Like most Jap games the physics are tied to a framerate of 30.
Shit is going to break.
Maybe someone will add a macro to switch from 30 to 60 for timing ouzzles and limitbrraks
>>337370403
>3.5G
>huge
I get they added some new textures and maybe redid some videos, but that is fucking ridiclus.
>>337370495
The models shouldn't be like 20gb big though, unless they made downscaled 20.000x20.000 textures for all the characters and forget to remove them before shipping.
>>337370516
I'd rather get some artifacts on some upscaled videos than spend a week downloading the thing on Steam.
>>337369969
>>337370604
HOLY SHIT
>>337370238
Xenoblade was locked to 25 and everyone loved it. It's not a turn based game either.
It's just really stupid and the height of entitlement to say 5 FPS difference from the standard makes something unplayable. Hell, Shadow of the Colossus ran at like 15 FPS most of the time and it is one of the most celebrated video games of all time. You just confuse unplayable with suboptimal, like a little kid who gets veggies for dinner and says it's inedible.
>>337370648
is x264 free?
>>337369969
>>337370604
>>337370830
I hope to god someone will mod it.
They made Yuna go from a qt to a mongoloid as well.
>>337370791
>The models shouldn't be like 20gb big though, unless they made downscaled 20.000x20.000 textures for all the characters and forget to remove them before shipping.
What the hell are you on about?
>>337370604
>>337369969
Its so fucking hideous.
>>337370986
The chances of model replacements for a game like this is extremely low.
>>337370863
>Xenoblade was locked to 25 and everyone loved it
I didn't.
>It's just really stupid and the height of entitlement to say 5 FPS difference from the standard makes something unplayable.
It does. Why do you think so many games run at 30 and not 25 or 20?
>Shadow of the Colossus ran at like 15 FPS most of the time and it is one of the most celebrated video games of all time.
And I hated playing it back then, and I still do it now.
>You just confuse unplayable with suboptimal
I wish, I have tried for so long to play games like OoT, Portable Ops and Peace Walker(thank god for the HD version)
but just could not get past it for me to stop noticing it and focus on the game.
hyperbole: the thread
>>337369969
>>337370604
WHAT THE FUCK WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS OK?
i never played a final fantasy game
what am i to expect?
>>337370604
>>337369969
damn this looks bad
>>337371053
I mean, most character models, textures included, is around 50mb for a decently quality one, maybe 100 if it's damn impressive.
So unless they fucked something up it shouldn't take 10+ gb to replace a few character models.
>>337370863
It was 30fps though.
>>337371379
But that has nothing to do with the quoted post.
>>337371334
Not the one you should've started with
>>337371334
Mediocrity and cringe.
>>337371334
a hallway simulator if you're playing 10 or 13. Though at least 10 is entertaining
>>337371456
from what i understand they are all final, so whatever
>>337371334
A bad remaster, just emulate it.
And wait for a repack you autist.
>>337371239
Because almost all HDTV screens run at a refresh rate that's a multiple of 30 so it's the best compromise.
Sure thing anon, enjoy being a special snowflake I guess.
>>337371454
Oh, my bad though it was related to why the game was so big, not why the new faces were so disfigured and revolting.
>>337371551
But then you won't get those crisp sexy menus.
Seriously, that is the big reason for me loving HD remakes. I love me some nice crisp menus.
>Bitching about a 15 year old game not living up to the standards of the present day "master race"
>MFW thinking about doing that fucking chocobo race again to get the sun sigil
>>337370604
Fucking up the aspect ratio doesn't make for a fair comparison.
ready for kingdom heart !
>>337371605
I will, just know I am by no means alone and it might surprise you how many people hate sub 30 framerates.
>>337371775
The remaster came out in 2013 you autist.
>>337369969
Is this part of that 'work in progress face' meme I've been hearing about that's not actually in the final game?
>>337371890
>he doesnt know
>>337371849
I hate them too. I hate everything below 240 FPS. Saying they're unplayable is just ridiculous though.
>>337371748
They're both 16:9. Here's what FMVs look like in the remaster.
>>337371748
But you will get fucked up things that actually matter.
>>337371775
You mean bitching about changes to a 15 year old game that makes the 15 year old content look infinitely better than the content made in 2013.
>>337371781
>chocobo race hard
Fuck I don't want to dodge 200 bolts of fucking lightning agian
To think I genuinely believed they couldn't fuck this one up since it wasn't going to be another mobile port like the last dozen FF steam releases.
>>337371989
Please enlighten me
>>337371890
>>337371989
There was WIP images but the final is still retardedly bad.
>>337372035
Well, they are. I really wish that wasn't the case for me.
>>337371781
>>337372093
Aren't there "game enhancements" in this like there were in FF9s port? surely theres a minigame cheat included.
>>337372093
Yeah I pretty much never used Lulu because of that
>>337371787
What makes you think it's fucked up?
>>337372131
>original looks more detailed
How do you fuck that up?
>>337372248
Yes.
>Auto-save and 5 game boosters including high speed and no encounter modes.
>>337372413
>no encounter mode
wow that made one weapon buff useless
>>337372413
>adding a no encounter mode when there are multiple no-encounter items in the base game
for what purpose
>>337372513
I thought it was on armor, but yeah
>>337369474
Maybe frame rate doesn't matter as much in a game consisting of 95% menus as in an action game? Is that really such a weird concept?
>>337372413
>>337372131
I heard it's a chinese compagny not directly related with Square Enix who was in charge of project.
>>337372131
Tidus Ryan and Chazz Palminteri
>>337372413
>high speed (2x or 4x)
Now this I can get behind. More RPGs should have those, maybe take a page off the Neptunia book (there's a button to cancel any animation you wish). Grinding fucking sucks.
>>337372413
see>>337371801 too.
>>337372703
Probably the same one that messes up all the other remasters.
>>337372562
Hope they added a borderless mode.Who am I kidding of course they didn't.
>>337372513
And more importantly also made it available for the early game.
Although if I ever play this on PC, I'll make a hotkey for cheatengine to do it so I don't have to switch equipment or do whatever it takes to enable this "booster" shit.
>>337372513
>>337372612
I believe No Encounters can only be crafted onto armor, but there's a way to get a No Encounters weapon to drop from certain enemies (I think Geosgaeno is one of them).
did they port this to something again or what? why are people talking about the remaster again
>>337372773
HE LOOKS LIKE A GIANT FUCKING BABY
How did the chinks fuck it up so much.
They better do FFXII HD in-house.
how is it that almost not a single one of these Remasters includes an Original mode? Halo Anniversary was able to do it, its not impossible. change the models all you want, just give me a fucking button to play the original game you chink hacks.
Thank the heavens Lulu is still hot
>>337372768
That's why I emulate. For getting ultra high speeds.
>>337372131
>work in progress auron looks better than final auron
>>337372887
It just released on Steam today.
>>337372897
>They better do FFXII HD in-house.
Fuck man now I'm worried.
It's fun shitposting about shitty remasters but it can get old.
>>337372923
>PS2 Auron is better than PS4
Just look at the removed shadow from his glasses, they even had it tinted blue on PS2, it was a cool detail.
>>337372887
Actually they remade the game from the ground up. I recall an interview from one of the developers talking about how they had difficulties with the overdrive modes (they were glitched to hell in the original).
>>337372902
FFX was remade from the ground up. They didn't just redo textures on top of the base game.
>>337372923
He's a puppet! It's like something out of Deviantart,
>>337369474
total biscuit isn't the only pc fag in the world.
>>337372923
If they ever release a FF12 HD remaster, I wonder just how badly they'll fuck up Van's abs.
>>337372902
Because for some reason game developers fucking hate players having choice.
Took a fuckload of complains for them to even patch in the option to select which soundtrack people wanted.
>>337372923
Yuna is the real atrocity, Tidus was always goofy looking fuck.
>tfw no way to pirate X-2 separately
why even live
>>337372773
What the fu-
>>337372768
I was so glad FFXII International had a fast-forward button
>>337373087
They used the XIII engine right?
THE FUCKING ANIMATIONS IN THE GAMNE WOULD HAVE TO BE REWORKED FROM THE GROUND UP TO MAKE IT 60FPS YOU FUCKING RETARDS, THINK ABOUT IT, ANIMATIONS WORK USING FRAMES, WHEN THE ANIMATIONS WERE MADE THE STANDARD WAS 30FPS, THEY'D HAVE TO LITERALLY REDO EVERYTHING FROM THE GROUND UP TO MAKE IT 60FPS. YES I MAD. YOU FUCKING METACRETINS.
ANY CHANCE THERE'LL BE A MOD FOR THE ORIGINAL FACES? PLEASE RESPOND
Everything looks better in motion. What the fuck are you guys sperging about?
Ayy
>>337372773
It's the eyes, man. I'll gladly play this on Vita any day but holy shit they fucked up the eyes' expressivity, something very easy to fuck up.
>>337373087
>FFX was remade from the ground up
Nah m8. You can bet your balls they wouldn't be calling it a remaster if that was the case. A lot of the models, sound effects and animations are the exact same.
>>337373343
like 1 person complained about 30fps. Nearly everyone else is talking about the hideous models and bloated filesize.
>>337373282
>not emulating
>>337373382
Almost zero.
>>337373392
The characters actually look worse in motion in the remaster because their faces animate very poorly.
>>337373437
>tfw didn't apply widescreen patch here
>>337373343
You done capt. yelling memes? see >>337373474
>>337373330
MAKE IT STOP
>>337373343
It actually annoys me that people complain about this.
It's a PS2 game from 1 year after launch and it's a turn based RPG.
It was never going to be ported to 60fps.
>>337368249
It's an engine limitation. Nothing to be done for it.
>>337368078
I just wanna know of the RNG and BGM issues from the original PS4 port somehow made it over. I don't imagine so since it was patched forever ago but I'm paranoid.
>>337373392
Not Tidus, obviously. I'll agree that the game looks better in every way EXCEPT cutscene models.
But it's a narrative focused game with lots of cutscenes, so I don't know.
>can't skip cutscenes
Goddammit. The fucking turbo doesn't even affect cutscenes. It's like they just want to piss me off.
>>337373331
It was not completely remade from the ground up - they just converted the previous assets (graphics, music), touched some of them up (models) to the capabilities of the PS3. However, the battle system was indeed remade from the ground up, to look almost exactly the same as the original.
>>337373572
Some games are ported to 60fps though so it's a valid complaint.
>>337373642
see>>337373069
They removed stars, how is that better? The FMVs are cropped too.
>>337373382
It's not out of the question, model swaps are pretty usual for games, but replacing an entire face and body to sync up to very specifically crafted animations might be a bit troublesome.
There has been model swaps for XIII which is the same engine so it's not impossible, but the question is will anyone even spend the time doing it?
>>337373474
you obviously didn't see the other 50 threads today where everyon was crying about it being 30fps
>>337373474
the filesize is bullshit yeah, but the models looked pretty retarded in most cases in the original who careas as long as lulu's lips and tits look aight I don't give a fuck.
>>337373469
I think he meant the battle system (overdrives, magic system). It's almost a complete copy of the original, but I think the overdrive modes were overhauled - if you remember, some of them had a glitch were you could get millions of AP in a battle by choosing Overdrive -> AP ability.
>>337373823
model swap =/= model import
>>337370863
stop posting dumbass, vegetables are inedible
>>337373846
They removed Lulu's pouty lips in the remaster and made her nose larger.
>>337373821
>so it's a valid complaint.
barely man, even newer jap games have issues with upping the framerate.
Valkyria Chronicles was a great port except you took double damage because of the frame rate making it incredibly difficult at times.
And that was a PS3 game.
PS2 games used lots of effects and tricks to achieve what they did, it's fucking janky to try and mess around with them.
That's why PS2 emulation seems so much more complicated than nintendo's consoles, with so many game specific fixes required with each update.
>>337373823
Is the original music available like it is on PS4 but not PS3?
>>337374080
VC was fixed and that was a good thing honestly.
SOTC, KH, Mario, and MGS all have 60fps patches and they work fine.
It could be worse, it could have been a Silent Hill-tier remaster.
>>337374189
You can choose between original or new.
>>337374216
but does FFX have a 60fps PCSX2 patch?
If an enthusiast can't fix something, you can't expect a developer to.
Enthusiasts and modders are usually far more competent than developers.
>>337374189
Is checking the steam page difficult?
>>337374080
>>337374417
To be fair. The game is running on a different engine that can handle 60 fps fine. So they probably had the chance to fix it if they wanted to.
>>337374417
I think it runs at 60
I know the international one ran at 50 FPS because that what they liked for some reason
>>337371102
Is that Rinoa?
>>337374417
I'm just saying your exceptions are not the rule. Lots of patches, remasters, or next-gen ports up the frame rate.
Stop defending shitty lazy programming.
>>337374523
It runs like 60 the same way Kingdom Hearts 2 runs at 60. It displays each frame twice. 30 frames are rendered per second.
>remaster literally outsourced to 3rd party chink studio
>no but seriously though 60 fps was just too advanced for squeenix to fix they did the best they could
amazing
>>337372923
everything looks so dull on the ps3 version, the sky looks lifelesss.
>>337374523
International is PAL and PAL is 50Hz as opposed to JP and US 60Hz.
I'd be surprised if it ran at 50fps, it may have actually run at 25fps because I think I remember you could pick 60Hz or 50Hz when I had the PAL version
Is there any difference between the HD Remaster and FFX International?
>>337374770
fuck me I didn't notice that until you pointed it out
they replaced the skybox with a fucking gradient
>>337374770
>>337374856
Worse in motion.
>>337374808
Only the bullshit model, music changes etc.
If you played International you get no new content
>>337372781
yeah they did
>>337375032
the original music is in the game, you can choose which you want.
The model changes are the only real issue, I fucking hope modders can work their magic.
>>337375105
>they even messed up X-2
>20$
>for butchered faces and music
I'll pirate it, but this is pretty retarded since I was just emulating it and it works and looks pretty good
>>337375148
Forgot about that, well at lest its one hassle less, but there's too many cutscenes to not care about the ugly faces
>>337375182
X-2 was already a bad game besides the gameplay, it looks fine for the most part
but remastered X is a travesty
>>337375352
That looks fucking terrible though, the original is better.
You can have the original music, so the only thing wrong is the faces.
It's a pretty good port.
>>337375148
>is there any difference
>list major differences
All right autism, all I did was answer the question that was asked.
>>337375465
eh whatever, I'm enjoying remastered X-2 with updated ui elements, turbo mode and previously jap-exclusive content
>>337370604
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY CHANGE THE FACE
>>337375706
>it's worse than the PS2 version
>it's pretty good
what the fuck
>>337375717
>autism
excuse you.
>>337372251
She becomes useless after Yuna gets black magic anyway.
Undub's out.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/359870/discussions/0/364041517007201631/
>>337375792
If the faces are more important to you than all the other good things the PC remaster brings, then you're a fucking retard.
>>337375747
That new UI is just straight up garbage though.
>>337375863
Well that was fast.
im so glad i bought this on the vita.
>>337375863
Didn't the game have okay English voices, and fairly boring Japanese voices?
DELETE THIS
>>337368078
I can't bring myself to play this with Tidus' fucked up face.
>>337375863
>there are people that don't want to play with Tidus' english voice
HA HA HA HA
HA
HA
HA
>>337368078
Probably a stretch but, can I transfer my Vita save to the PC?
I'm farming the ultimate weapons, and do not want to start over.
>>337375952
Of course it was, voice selection rarely requires more work than just pointing the game at the right directory, which is exactly what he's done.
Squeenix saying it's a technical issue are just plain lying.
I don't get why they outsourced X/X-2, and then did Kingdom Hearts in-house.
https://youtu.be/BkgP54FuvIM?t=4m23s
AHH SOMEBODY HELP!
>>337375901
It doesn't bring anything good over FFX International.
>>337376024
Yep.
>>337376024
No, they're mostly equal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_rDnIKyX0g
Yuna and Lulu sound awkward as fuck in the dub, and Kimahri was given an unnecessary growl. The only questionable Japanese voice is Tidus.
>>337376152
KH much more popular?
>>337376225
>It doesn't bring anything good over FFX International.
High resolution and you don't need a PS2 anymore.
I've completely missed any news about this, I guess its time to play it again
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1SfOQRPcNQr
>>337376152
Probably because they spend way more effort on FFX.
>>337369969
>>337370604
>>337371102
>>337371551
>>337371801
>>337372131
>>337372773
>>337372923
>>337373069
>>337373330
>>337375352
Why does Square Enix have to ruin everything it touches?
>>337376225
>It doesn't bring anything good over FFX International.
The speedup is a great feature.
>>337376152
Because they barely did any work with KH.
>>337376293
Emulation.
>>337375465
Trust me, it isn't. The low poly character models in the original FFX-2 are really really bad. The new character models are much better. In regards to FFX, yeah it sucks the new models aren't as good as the pre-rendered ones, but at least its consistent now. I never liked how the game constantly switched between the low and high poly models with real time and pre-rendered cutscenes.
>>337376806
The new models look like garbage, stop defending trash.
>>337376806
It's not consistent at all though, a lot of the models and textures for characters besides the main cast are still the exact same as in the original.
>>337376806
Yeah, it's like they based the cutscene models on the in game models over a PS2 game. Pretty bad decision
>>337376806
Most characters are the same and there are still cutscene models in the remaster.
It's very inconsistent and it's never better than the original.
>bought it knowing the models were bad
>immediately regret it
>>337377283
Refunds brah
you got 2 hours.
Anyone else getting weird footstep sounds in this room??
>>337373343
>THEY'D HAVE TO LITERALLY REDO EVERYTHING FROM THE GROUND UP TO MAKE IT 60FPS
You can still either dupe animation frames, which is easy but kinda janky (camera would move around at 60fps, but actors would move at 30fps), or you could interpolate animations (which would require writing more than 2 lines of code, but still isn't all that hard).
Timing using frames is bigger problem. Say the limit break timing is based off frames, they'd have to edit it (just simply doubling the counter for a 60fps mode) which isn't difficult, but if there's a ton of stuff like that all throughout the game it'd take a long time to track down everything and edit it.
>>337377461
bought it through GMG, I still haven't played it.
I'm hoping someone mods the faces.
>>337377464
Yeah, the sound balancing is way off on the echo or something
>>337370075
>OH SHIT MY LAST CHANCE TO PRETEND I'M A PC USER WHO THINKS THIS POST BLEW ME OUT OF THE WATER, FUCK, TOO LATE
>>337376926
>>337377063
>>337377098
>>337377149
Left is the low poly model you see most of the game and in a lot of the cutscenes. Right is the high poly model you see only in key cutscenes thoughout the game. I'm not saying the new models look better, but I prefer the new models over the low poly ones.
>>337377694
>but I prefer the new models over the low poly ones
You have shit taste even when it comes to that. They look retarded instead of simply low-poly and the only time you're even looking at them is during cutscenes so this is a moot argument.
>>337377694
I think most people are fine with the overworld low poly model being replaced.
it's the cutscene model that's the real problem.
Gonna pirate it.
New faces don't bother me. Never played the original and I don't think they look too bad by themselves.
Any way to make Turbo work on cutscenes? It seems doable.
>>337378076
Emulate.
>>337378120
I already played it a million times on an emulator.
>>337378178
So why are you playing the inferior port?
>>337378076
>add skippable cutscenes in original X-2
>still don't add them to the remake of X
How can one company fuck up so much?
>>337378273
Why not?
FFX is a shit-tier game. Kill yourselves.
>>337378385
Yeah, it is. But it's nostalgic for me.
>>337378385
I'm still buying it for the fourth time
>>337377694
worst protagonist ever.
Literally "whiney daddy issues pussy faggot": The Game
>>337368964
Turn based games may not need 60fps, but when there's any spectacle to the battles - like in final fantasy - it'd be nice to have.
WHAT DO
>>337378608
you can switch it later anyway
>>337378608
original
ur welcome
torrent when?
>How is this version?
>SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING SHITPOSTING
>>337377856
I honestly don't understand peoples obsession over the old low poly models.
>>337377875
I'd understand that if the cutscenes were consistent. People seem to forget that like 70% of the games cutscenes use the low poly models. Only a small portion of the games cutscenes actually used the higher poly models.
>>337378784
>ask how it is
>people accurate describe how the models are terrible
>wow guys stop shitposting how dare you insult superior nipponese models
>>337378853
Holy fuck, fix your skipdraw. It's not supposed to look like that.
>>337378853
>add disgusting amounts of contrast
>make the sky worse
>character is 90% the same but worse in cutscenes
>every other character is 100% worse everywhere
you will defend this
>>337373330
>HD remaster turns FF into KH
>>337379041
Seriously?
>>337377484
Depends on the dev. Animations that were designed at 30fps will be sped up at 60fps if not converted right. RE4HD PC had that problem, the reload animations are 2X faster when playing at 60fps. Although no one really complained because faster reload animations works in the players favor. I'm sure the guys who ported the game were worried about fucking up the cutscene animations.
what the fuck is all this
>>337379041
>sky worse
What, of all the changes it is one of the few that actually looks better.
>>337379285
Magic
Do, despite all the graphics shit I don't care about, how is it?
>>337379331
see:
>>337372923
>>337373069
Yeah no. The clouds look worse in that Lulu comparison too.
>>337379460
I will give you the dusk sky but the stars look better.
>>337369056
playing DaS2 at 60 fps is pretty fun, adds more challenge since everything is faster and it makes the durability system mean something.
>unskippable cutscene.
how is the phone/pc port of IX?
>>337378608
Either. People bitch about the arranged one way too much.
>>337379695
Like thee FFX port. Shit if you care about models and stuff being different. Purdy good if you only care about gameplay.
>>337377283
Literally only Tidus, stop this fucking stupid meme already.
>>337376421
The HD was outsourced to chinks
>>337379902
>literally only the most important character in the game
Yuna looks like shit too.
>>337374216
Dark Souls is still shittier in 60 FPS thanks to shitty jump lengths and WotS 4 will never ever be 60 fps because it fucks up, along with T-0 HD.
When it's limited and locked to 30, you can pretty much always expect varying degrees of problems when going outside of it.
>outsource
What the FUCK does that even mean? They give the remastering job to some 3rd rate studio?
>>337379902
>Literally only Tidus
read the thread
>>337380128
Dark Souls works fine at 60fps, Type-0 works fine at 60fps if you emulate it.
>he's still grasping to exceptions
>that aren't even valid for the most part
>>337380165
Are you twelve?
>>337378560
if it's 30 all around at least it'll be playable.
>>337379246
>Animations that were designed at 30fps will be sped up at 60fps
Which you can get around by either duping or interpolating them...
>>337369969
>>337370030
>>337370830
>>337371059
Guys, it doesn't look like that. Stop falling for the bait. It's been disproven for a long time now.
>>337380165
You know how when you call tech support you year Pajeet instead of Henry, that is outsourcing.
https://a.pomf.cat/hjuihd.webm
Sugoi.
Undub works perfectly.
>>337380479
>It's been disproven for a long time now.
Hm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPGH1VT2bmg
>>337380204
Why? I fucking played the game.
>>337380302
>Dark Souls works fine at 60fps
Read again
>thanks to shitty jump lengths
It's fucking painful to try and make any jumps in 60 fps, some of it just becomes plain impossible.
Not to mention that shift tabbing would always break the FPS and it would start go a bit unstable.
>Type-0 works fine at 60fps if you emulate it.
That's not T-0 though.
>he's still grasping to exceptions
You're joking right? If a game is locked to 30 FPS on PC you know it fucking has shit tied to framerate which can cause varying degrees of problems, there's just no way around that fact no matter how much you try. Some games break completely, some have minor issues, some have semi-big but not gamebreaking issues.
>that aren't even valid for the most part
???
>>337380657
>That's not T-0 though.
Meant T-0 HD.
>>337380576
>gameplay looks better
>cutscenes look worse
WHY? If you know you fucked up the cutscenes, why not simply import the older models that look much better? Better yet, why not import the older models and use them in-game?
>>337380165
Exactly. Generally outsourcing videogame developments results in some bad shit. Capcom used to do it back in the PS2 days before they saw how bad they turned out and now does PC ports in house.
For examples, just look at the original RE4 PC version. Based on the crappy graphic wise PS2 version no less with no mouse support.
>>337380483
I laughed. What does it mean though
That fucking face. Holy shit my sides.
>>337380417
Yeah but it looks jerky and terrible
lighting returns has a 30fps lock on PC, turn it on for 5 seconds and run around and tell me that's acceptable in comparison to 60
it's night and day
>>337380963
the fucking shadows on his eyes are abhorrent
>>337372923
Jesus Christ I almost wanted to buy the game but this comparison made me seriously reconsider
What the fuck they destroyed everything, it's not just the models but the sky and colors as well
>>337380963
>When you do mutch meth
>>337379579
>fighting seymour or yunalesca
>worry about dying mainly because you'll have to watch the cutscene again
>>337378853
Ehh, my waifu may look arguably slightly worse in the new version but she still looks pretty fuckable so who cares.
>>337381905
AND YOUR MEANINGLESS EXISTENCE WITH IT
>>337380963
lol it's like someone fucked up a skyrim face texture mod and put the files in the wrong dir or some shit, fuck that's bad.
>>337381905
DEATH AWAITS YOU
>>337380963
Who looks at that and says, "It's good."
Tidus is being taken by the fucking darkness.
>>337381972
>having to listen to the shittier theme also, every single time
>>337380657
>It's fucking painful to try and make any jumps in 60 fps, some of it just becomes plain impossible.
Factually untrue or are you talking about DS2 the god awful game nobody played?
>he's actually defending shitty ports
>>337380963
>people will pay for this
fucking cucks
>>337382343
>god awful game
>nobody played
This why /v/ is terrible, because of shitposters like you.
>>337382343
>Factually untrue
No it fucking isn't, it's a known problem.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/211420/discussions/0/864956554802999587/?l=finnish
What are Eternal Calm and Last Mission?
>>337369969
What in the hell? He looks like a fucking window licker
>>337382343
Also, how am I defending "shitty ports."
Which one is the shitty port, by the way? T-0 is a good port, lacking 60 FPS doesn't mean it's a shit port especially when there's nothing to do about it. Port like Dark Souls when it was released is a shit port.
You're just an idiot if you think that the locks aren't there for a reason.
Did the animators take inspiration from the Tide meme?
Also ooga booga where da lulu at
At least Tidus model meme has some truth in it unlike the laughin scene.
>>337380963
His entire head looks chubby/fat.
>>337383375
THICC
There is already a mod to play the game with jap voices and eng subs.
>>337383676
But what's the point? I beat the game 15 years ago.
>>337383787
Then get out of the thread and ignore everything related to the game. It isn't really hard to ignore the existence of the remaster. You just want to be retarded on purpose.
$18 on GMG, I'm a good fucking goy and am buying this damn game for the 4th time now.
>>337370604
I didn't think it was possible but they gave Tidus even more a fucking baby face.
Man, it's so weird seeing Wakka talk without his retarded accent, and everyone not sounding clunky as fuck because the english VAs had to fit their lines to the mouth movement. It's almost like this game has integrity now or something.
I do find the english voices charming in a nostalgic way, but the jap dub is so much better it's not even a contest.
>no mouse control
Fuck this.
>>337384064
He look alright. Sometime.
Fuck I never even played the original and Tidus' cutscene model is STILL getting to me. Looking at all these comparisons before playing the game made me notice it a lot. It just looks too fucking clean and the eyes are too blue. Will there be a mod?
The game has been out for 5 hours. How the fuck does anybody already have these achievements?
>>337368078
>40 GB for a ps2 game
>30fps lock
>shitty ''remastered'' visuals
>one of the worst FF anyway
>meanwhile an emulated ISO has superior visuals and performance
literally 0 reasons to even pirate
>>337384576
SAM
>>337384576
Developers
>>337384576
Dev testing games I guess.
>>337384576
Cheated in with SAM. The term "Achievement" has lost all meaning to these sad sacks and they just want it without the feeling of accomplishment that comes with earning something legitimately
>>337384576
Testers, review copies.
>>337384670
>>337384681
>>337384894
Found the SAM defenders
The best port Squeenix has ever done, easily. My PS4 controller works without x360ce (a Squeenix first), graphics and sound are identical to PS4 version (graphics a bit better in areas), and overall easily played with no setup.
For those bitching about 30 fps. Nigger are you serious? The game is coded around that and you can't do jack shit about it without fucking everything up.
For those bitching about Jap voices. You really wanna download 20 extra gigs for it like we had to for XIII? Take your weeb ass back home.
Did they manage not to fuck up the RNG seeding this time?
>>337384962
What's sam?
>>337384962
What? Do you read English?
>use overdrive with Auron
>random keyboard keys show up
SHIT
>>337385023
>The game is coded around that and you can't do jack shit about it without fucking everything up.
You mean, the game was coded like that before they decide to port everything to a different engine and had the chance to fix it.
>>337385068
Something that faggots use.
crack where?
>>337385023
Since they're not half assing their ports, will we get Remake and XV on PC?
>>337385023
This. If you want to shit on a port of Square Enix there is more than enough of a selection.
>>337368078
This entire thread reminds me how fucking bad 90% of the new race models in WoW are.
This is what happens when you outsource your art team.
We wait 5-10 years for games just to see that they look and play like shit.
Back then you'd wait 1-2 years for a good game and they look and play great.
>>337383676
Where do I download this mod?
>>337385068
Steam Achievement manager, a third party program that just unlocks achievements for any game for you.
>>337385075
Nigga testers wouldn't be tracked on the public stats like that. It's just lazy cheaters.
>>337385182
Reminds me of the recent RE4 HD PC port.
>the QTE's are the terrible stain on an otherwise excellent game
>already hate them
>sometimes, every once in a while, the QTE buttons will be keyboard controls instead of the controller getting you completely caught with your pants down making you hate them even more
Thanks Capcom, way to make the worst part of the game even worse.
>>337385023
JC2 was the best port Squeenix ever did.
FFX port is garbage and you know it.
Reskin mods when?
>>337385391
>Nigga testers wouldn't be tracked on the public stats like that. It's just lazy cheaters.
How come they have been before then?
>>337385404
It took me a long time to get past the boulder QTE in the begining.
The buttons are random every time, and you get like 0.1 seconds to input them.
>>337385406
Did they even touch Just Cause 2 at all, in reality? Let's be real here.
What exactly is wrong with the port that isn't already wrong with the PS3/PS4 version? This is just the definitive version of this HD Remaster. If you have problems with the shit they did in that remaster then you just don't like the remaster-- don't blame the port job.
>>337385023
The Jap voices are already included in the 40 gig download. All the voices for Jap and English are in the same file. You just need to do a little hex editting to add english subs and text to Japanese voices. Someone released a mod an hour after release to fix it.
Devs basically admitted on the forums they were lazy and it was released his way as a "dev decision"
>>337370604
What kinda remake you want, ya?
Was there ever a remaster /v/ liked?
Kingdom Hearts HD port when?
>>337385598
Well if that's the case then it's even less of an issue. Take your lazy ass back home and learn to mod it.
>>337385598
It was most likely licensing issues since the japanese voice actor guild is painfully nitpicky and anal about this kind of things.
>>337384112
>and everyone not sounding clunky as fuck because the english VAs had to fit their lines to the mouth movement
Oh wow. Haven't played the game since I was a kid and never noticed it back then, but looking it up now it's just so jarring and surreal.
>>337385671
MGS HD Collection is usually seen as being pretty good, even if they took away some stuff.
>No spirals in her eyes.
Square pls
>>337385827
I wish I could...live in a place...like this. Peaceful. Living...with a smile on my face every day.
>>337385294
>Back then you'd wait 1-2 years for a good game and they look and play great.
Sure, sure.
>>337385498
[Citation needed]
>>337385958
DELETE THIS!!
>>337385598
Is it the same for X-2?
Don't want to start playing X only to have X-2 be in English.
>>337385806
>japanese voice actor guild is painfully nitpicky and anal about this kind of things.
It's just licensing in general since you have to license everything again for a new version of a product which is why stuff like Dangan and other licensed songs get cut from newer versions.
It's just a money issue at worst, chara-ani licensing would cost trillions.
>>337385958
Jesus, how much more can they fuck up
>>337385958
wtf
>>337385958
"hey lets fuck up an entire plot point "
>>337385749
>Devs shouldn't have to do any work, just let the player's reprogram the games!
10/10 shilling.
>>337385958
Not like fucking this.
>>337386441
Who the fuck knows why they made that decision? But if it's easy to mod then just do it you lazy piece of shit. For the rest of us who aren't weeb faggots we don't even need to worry.
>Tidus, Yuna, Lulu and Rikku sound better in Japanese
>Auron, Kimahri, Wakka sounds way more interesting in English
Well fuck.
We all know this remaster is a bad remaset, with fucked up models, often wrong shadows on models, horrible replaced skyboxes etc, but...how it is as a port?
Does it run good? Any issue? Amount of ingame graphical options, other than the ones in the launcher's settings?
I kind of celebrate the nitpicky responses. It's like I repeat the same situation over and over again for every game and never get tired of it. This is literally the definition of being crazy.
>>337384246
>png
>3.89mb
He looks like a fucking edgy teenager psycho
>>337386641
>>337386684
>defending lazy ports
You fags are beyond delusional
>>337385582
You're only proving how much of a fucking idiot you are and know nothing about coding or porting.
They quite literally could've just emulated the game with a texture pack and it would've been better.
It sure as hell wouldn't be over 10GBs since the original game is only 4-5GBs.
Dark Souls 3 PC port is "so shit" because it quite literally emulates the grunt of the game on PC hardware (as proven by the DaSFix guy). The minimum hardware for the game is the market equivalent to the console version. The reason this is possible is because of the x86-64 architecture.
Jap console devs just don't know how to fucking port their own games.
>>337387215
You can deliver them the money for licensing yourself, family.
>long ass stupid sphere grind explanation
>finish it, talk to different guy on boat
>can't understand Al Bhed, just answer 'yeah'
>long ass explanation begins again
I forgot about this horse shit fuck you
>>337387307
>Dark Souls 3 PC port is "so shit" because it quite literally emulates the grunt of the game on PC hardware
Wait, so does this mean it's possible to emulate a PS4 with an i5?
>>337387521
>I did the same shit
>>337385958
Holy shit, and people are defending this?
Why couldn't they hire Silicon Studio Thailand to port it?
They did a fantastic PC port of FF9.
>>337387895
You do realise it's the mobile version ported to PC, right?
>>337385958W-why is this so bad?
>>337385958
>>337386094
>>337386361
>>337386390
>>337386438
>>337386487
>>337387820
>>337388019
calm the fuck down. The same shit was in ps2 version. First time you meet her she has model with a normal eyes.
Downloading the torrent now, won't even install it a 60fps mod is impossible.
I have good games to play, can't settle for mediocrity.
>>337372923
I don't know why people bash on Yuna's new model...she looks much prettier in the remasters
Tidus' face on the other hand looks awful
>>337385391
Steamworks dev here. For implementing achievements I had to award and revert myself achievements on multiple accounts. It gets tracked.
>>337388569
Then save yourself the trouble and get rid of that torrent because you won't.
>>337388472
Ok my bad. The urge to shit post overcame my logic.
JUST
keyboard prompts tho
>>337385671
Any remaster by Blue point games
>>337385023
>For those bitching about Jap voices. You really wanna download 20 extra gigs for it like we had to for XIII?
I would do it without question.
>>337368078
I'm enjoying it so far, pretty good, textures are so superior to the PS2 version (the last time I played this game), 30 fps locked, you can have japanese voices with changing the .exe, there's a thread for in the steam forum, also you can select the original OST.
I'm having a blast, this is a really fucking nostalgic trip, and using the original voices and better graphics just makes it worth it to play again.
>>337388904
i could never get into X-2 battles with a controller
>>337388904
Why are you playing in Jap?
>>337372562
How can I enter these settings? I can't find them.
>>337388472
Reasons why she doesn't have the spiral eyes because the eyes are only on her more detailed model later in the game when she becomes a party member.
>>337385958
>>337386094
>>337386361
>>337386390
>>337386438
>>337386487
>>337387820
>>337388019
This is neo /v/. Just some retards who love to shitpost and jump on every bandwagon possible.
>>337389263
Because I can, really, neither English nor Japanese are my native languages so who gives a fuck
>>337389430
Fair enough. Always good to get some practice in when you can I suppose.
>>337389372
esc
>>337372131
Ps2 Auron looks so sexy
>>337389097
>you can select the original OST.
Can you for real? I keep getting confused responses. This is quite literally the only thing i care about. The faces remakes piss me off but the OST is a must have
>>337369969
They turned them all into pacific islanders ;/
>>337380083
Her feet look fine to me brah :)
>>337389669
Yes, you most definitely can.
>>337389379
>neo /v/
>implying /v/ hasn't always been like this
>>337368078
IT'S FUCKING 33 GIGABYTES
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK SQUAREENIX?
ARE YOU FUCKEN RETARDED??
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT VIDEO COMPRESSION ALGORITHMS??
DID YOU JUST UPSCALE 420P TO 4K THE VIDEOS USING UNCOMPRESSED RGB???
FUCK!111111111
>>337385234
It would be extremely rare if those two games don't come to PC after six months of being on console.
I hope the KH remasters are next.
I never got to play the FM versions.
>>337368964
Hey niggerfaggot, think about how people have powerful rigs that aren't being put to work because of lazy developers. Think about how 30fps is OBJECTIVELY worse than >30/60fps. It's fucking current year and there's no excuse to release a game, EVEN A PC PORT/REMASTER with a 30fps cap.
>>337390064
Type-0 went from like 2.6gb on PSP to something like 30GB for the 'HD' port, I swear they have some kind of hardon for 30-40GB filesizes
>>337390465
It is if the game is broken when you uncap the FPS.
But ,honestly I'm still having fun with that game.
>>337371551
That actually looks good, makes Wakka look like a badass
>>337384647
>>337384756
What is SAM?
>want to just sit down and play the game
>feel like im missing items
>have to break out the strategy guide
i have literally never beat this without the guide
>>337390352
I would be so happy to get to play KH again. Don't have a PS3/4 so I haven't played them since the PS2 originals.
>>337391068
I don't think there are any important missable items.
>>337391406
i might needthe gil though...
>>337391068
just use something for al bhed books and get the temple items, nothing else really matters. and desu the end game is so grindy and shit that if you miss items but decide you wanna go back for anima or w/e i'd have zero remorse over just cheating the shitty international secret bosses
>>337369259
how exactly
>>337391647
there is a cheat to get unlimited gil. youre already using a guide so just using the cheat wont hurt.
>>337391647
gil only matters for paying off oaka and it's like... 10001 gil? nothing large that you cant get around killika easily
>>337391114
Ever heard of emulators? Kh1/com/2fm/bbsfm work really good.
>unsure if I wanna play FFX or FFX-2 first
i've played ffx to completion like 3 times at this point and even emulated it a few years back. I've never played with expert sphere grid, not that it matters a great deal.
x-2 I havent played since it released and I beat it. I remember loving the gameplay but thats it really.
>>337391708
>there is a cheat to get unlimited gil
Still don't understand why that shit is with the base game.
>>337379572
DaS2 being in 60fps only made me realize how shitty the game actually looks
>>337373635
>It's an engine limitation. Nothing to be done for it.
>It's an engine limitation.
it's your brain limitation dumb retard.
PS2 version was running 60 and 50 FPS accordingly for NTSC/PAL
>>337390225
I think you meant to say 15 years
>>337370459
Just fucking emulate FFXII - it's a HD remaster for free.
>>337392034
Nope, I mean 6 months. It's 2016, not 2001.
I've already beaten it several times, I'm going to try a no level up run this time.
Or more proable, I'm going to see how far I can get.
Just played it recently on an emulator and would buy this... but the faces, jesus.
Thanks for pointing out how terrible they look anons, saves me the 20bucks.
>>337391997
still worse
>>337379019
>posting outdated comparisons to the ps3 version instead of talking about the pc version
>>337385671
Does FF9 count? Either way, Kingdom Hearts
Do people really care that much that a model you don't even get to see that often looks slightly worse?
>>337392495
Wasn't that no level run only beaten like recently?
Will there be mods to avoid celestial weapons minigames?
Should I just emulate this game or torrent the hd one?
>>337392643
No, a low level run is relatively easy.
>>337392495
no sphere grid is hard as fuck. Pro tip: GET YOJIMBO
>>337392801
no level*
>>337391964
No, it ran at 30/25 on PS2 hardware
>>337392874
Actually it's easy for the main quest.
>>337390064
You realize it's two games right?
>>337391406
Cloister of Trials.
>You can go back, though
Yeah, have fun getting fucked by Dark Aeons.
>>337392254
With how badly Square's been doing with their ports (fps locks, fucking iOS UIs), I really hope people do this.
You can find an already-patched version of IZJS easily, and it runs incredibly well, even at higher resolutions. 60 FPS, good textures (all things considering), no instability. It's perfect.
I certainly won't be giving them any more money for half-assed FF ports. Put some fucking work into it, Square. I'd say they have the money to do so, but they probably hemorrhaged it all in FFXV.
>>337368078
NO DUAL AUDIO NO BUY
>tfw you bought it for pc
I should have gotten it for my Final Fantasy machine 4.
Also I don't think the remaster looks bad at all.
>>337392643
No, but I believe Dark Anima was a fairly recent thing.
>>337391964
>ps2 ran at 60/50 fps
I like how went straight full retard w/ this
>>337392603
>FF9
>literally mobile port
>>337393410
>Vita version doesn't get original soundtrack
>not even downloadable
Some ol' bullshit, Square.
>>337370604
As someone who never played X, I can't tell which ones supposed to be the original or remastered.
>>337393662
Top is original.
>>337393662
The one that doesn't have any life in it.
>>337391997
>>337370604
>>337380963
It's hilarious that in every FFX thread that one idiot comes and tries to defend this change
>>337380948
He literally just explained it, we're not joking you retard
>>337380963
Here's the original at 6x native
>>337393612
It's a shame, but otherwise playing the game on a portable console is really great.
>>337385391
>>337386061
http://steamcommunity.com/stats/379720/achievements
Here, achievement stats for a game that isn't out. Took me like 5 seconds to find on steam.
>>337385561
Its kind of the same on the Wii too, you hardly get any time to input the cutscene qte.
I heard that the qte timing is scaled based on the game's dynamic difficulty.
>>337389379
In universe it was suppose to be intended that it is hard to see the spiral in the eye until you get up close. But the limitations of the shaders probably gave us what we ended up with.
>>337395945
Makes sense, how else would most people can't tell if Yuna had Al Bhed lineage.
>>337394854
Clearly superior
>>337395526
>not out
>had a huge fucking open beta weekend where anyone could have SAM'd it
Yeah try again. Closed/"dev" testing is what we were discussing, not giant high-profile open betas.
>>337392495
FFX was the first RPG I ever played when I was like 11 and I didn't understood the sphere greed and never used it, I got stuck in a boss for months until I discovered it and then the game was easy as fuck.Until I got stuck again later and never actually beat it
>>337397465
>FFX was the first RPG I ever played when I was like 11
You have to be 18 years old etc etc
>>337396340
OK.
why is square porting all their old FFs all of a sudden? is the financial situation really that bad?
also, Mystic Quest port when?
>>337368701
So how's the 15 years port, anon?
>>337398739
This will be shocking for you but FFX came out in 2001. I'm actually 25. I admit though that I avoided J-RPGs when I was younger.
>>337375352
>X-2 was already a bad game
if you haven't already, fuck off
>>337369474
30 fps is alright when the camera is not in motion.
>>337369969
WHY? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MY TIDUS!?
>>337399543
It's almost as if a blitzball blew up at his face.
>>337389704
apparently the game got alot of inspiration of thse greasy SEA islands
>>337398984
Japs realised that porting ancient games to PC is basically free money. Considering that publishing to Steam is basically zero effort whatsoever, there's really no reason not to.
Hopefully this will mean we'll start to see more JRPGs on Steam in general. Maybe Persona-fags will one day get their wish.
>>337400824
I just want armored core.
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