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Are graphics deadlocked?
>>337349094
I just wish they'd focus on bettering AI now. AI seems to be stagnated as fuck while everyone rubs their dicks about graphical fidelity.
>>337349094
>top requires a i7 5960X + 980Ti to run smoothly
>bottom runs "smoothly" on a $40 apu
>>337349094
>arma
>mid budget
hmm
>>337349336
>implying
a3 runs great on my 2 year old gaming laptop
>>337349336
you don't need a 980Ti to run it at 30fps+dips like Uncharted.
no
ArmA's visuals are very overrated
>>337349336
>top one let you travel to that mountain in the distance
>botton one is just a long script
Have PC users ever had to damage control this hard for a game before?
It seems the shitposting has reached asinine levels of ass hurt at this point. I'm so sorry PC.
>>337349336
Thats by PC standards though. If you just want to run it at 30FPS anything can do that.
>>337349094
how is arma 3 a mid budget game?
Arma is a pretty stupid choice of an example. That games is so specific and unique in so many ways it's not even funny.
>>337349401
yep, more like low budget compared with a Sony AAA
>>337349570
looks shit senpai
>>337349570
>promo pics
Oh boy... like, are you even trying? Certainly not a bullshot, no sir!
>>337349420
>Gaming laptop
>>337349624 They are contracted by the fucking US Army. Naughty Dog ain't shit.
>>337349753
And a whole lot of other countries on top of that
>>337349738
>taking a full pc with you when you study abroad
>>337349094
>top
can explore the entire area and enter every house. Still looks amazing from afar
>bottom
cheap 2d sprites and low res background. Its just foreground and doesnt load much resources, yet look like dogshit
>>337349094
So
This
Is
The
Power
Of
The
PS4
>>337349593
Not AAA but not quite low tier indy. AA would be s better term.
>>337349570
Its weird how this is a bullshot and still doesn't really look good. Its ok because of the vibrant colors but all the tree leaves, which is most of the picture, are 2d and look like shit. There's barely any foliage too, and its all unimpressive.
I don't know how you could hate a game like this.
>>337349336
Actually a I7 only gets about four frames more than a I3 at similar frequencies.
A 980TI won't give you a significant boost at 1080p either compared to mid range graphic cards.
>>337349919
Gothic 2 had more convincing forests
Looks good to me.
>>337349094
Uncharted looks like dog shit.
>Arma has visible roads, farmland, different plant life on different sides of the road.
>Uncharted has no visible roads, buildings placed in the middle of nowhere, a bridge going nowhere, everything apart from the slope on the left is a solid shade of green painted onto the surface.
TLoU looked good, what the fuck happened?
>>337349928
>Promo shots
>It actually looks like that
>>337349856
Literally me.
I actually use my laptop now I'm back home because its stronger than my pc, which I'm going to buy a new GPU for and clean out later on when I have the money.
>>337350006
vegetation looks painted on
>>337349919
>>337349707
>bullshots
>legit in-game screenshots
Thanks for complimenting the game I guess
>>337349928
It's not wheter or not you hate the game, i'm sure Uncharted is a good game in some respect, but most games are made with more graphical potentnial to be better and big budget devs stagnate on making any improvements other than fancy character models and textures
>>337349094
Is /v/ deadlocked in asspain and shitposting?
>>337349753
>hey are contracted by the fucking US Army. Naughty Dog ain't shit.
Not for ARMA though. ARMA is fairly big budgeted by local standards, but in global perspective it's mid-range budget at absolute best. Compared to anything Naughty Dog makes it's cheap as all fuck.
>>337350018
Took that last night.
>>337350007
TLoU was made after 3 other games on the PS3 and naughty dog mastered the power of the cell. This is their first PS4 game and it shows.
>>337350152
my post was not a compliment
The honest answer in this particular comparison comes down largely to the CPU. Efficient draw calls and data streaming have been unbelievably superior on PC for a long time now. And it's a shame, because console GPUs while weaker are right now still pretty good. The PS4's GPU is fine for a closed, affordable system. But to keep costs, heat, and energy low in a small box Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo cheap out on CPUs and go for the most affordable, efficient model they can have mass produced. This is detrimental to any game that requires substantial draw calls and streaming of interactive space or large 3D vistas. You can have an 8-core PS4 CPU and it'll be smoked by an perceptually outdated 4 core PC CPU without hyperthreading. PCs generally are so, so, so much further ahead, hence why every single open world game (other than unoptimised turds) runs noticeably smoother on PC hardware. CPU headroom is invaluable for these kinds of games, and consoles fucking suck.
And since most games are still made with console limitations at a bare minimum, this is how we've gotten to where we are. It's not a GPU problem; it's a CPU problem.
>>337350007
Because in Arma you can actually go wherever you see.
Uncharted? Nope.
Plus its running on a dog-shit platform so they're limited in what they can do.
>>337349753
>contracted by the US army
youre thinking of Bohemia Interactive Simulations, a completely different company now. They dont even share code between each other IIRC
>>337349753
>>337349851
They aren't though.. The military branch of bohemia interactive is its own studio which used to be based in Australia and his owned by an american investment company.
They share history but are totally different companies who don't share anything now.
Actually the Czech studio was almost all out of juice before the DayZ hype started and got them millions of extra sales.
>>337350268
>>337349094
Yes they are, thanks console fags
>>337349458
It's a pretty stable 30fps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIx81srGliY
>>337349094
Also the top one allows you to go explore everything you see, the bottom one doesn't, it's all scripted and shit.
SO THIS
IS THE POWER
OF PC
WOAHHHH.....
>>337349336
Try playing with Arma 2 Assets, looks like shit but it runs well on bad pc's and is still a lot of fun if the mission is good. And you can have clutter/full cities without frame drops and lags.
Pic was running well on a shitty server with i3 CPU and HDD. Mix of Arma 3 and Arma 2 Assets on the imported Zargabad map.
>>337350427
That error message doesn't even make sense though. It says 'The program can't start because...'
>>337350427
This will never not be funny.
>>337349570
>>337349928
>>337350006
>>337350152
Crysis still can offer superior visuals ten years later... This is depressing, stop holding us back console peasants.
>>337350536
>not playing as a chronomancer
you fucked up home skillet
>>337350427
How would he get a .dll error if he was already in the game? And it looks like a DX one which wouldn't even allow you to run the game lmao
>>337350469
>E3 2014
Why not use the video of the actual game that they released a few days ago instead?
>>337350587
>crysis 1 still looks the best.
Modded maps yeah but the vanillia game has aged very clearly in everything but lighting in the forests which is still 10/10
>>337350643
I fucked up.
Either way, it hasn't changed. The game has very few dips and those dips are usually 28-29 FPS at worst.
>>337350539
For non-arma players, picture in this post is basically performance Arma 3. Normally it looks more like pic related.
>>337349309
Fucking this. Graphics are just becoming huge money blackholes.
AI, physics, collision, there's about a million other things that would drastically improve the GAMEPLAY and not just the look of the games that they should be throwing money into.
>>337350536
>SO THIS
>IS THE POWER
>OF PC
>>337349753
Just because they're under contract with the military doesn't mean anything, the military only gives them like 10-15 million over a 5 year period.
ArmA is such a fucking mess of a game, it looks good and bad at the same time.
Hey, that looks really good, I'm not going to lie but I do want to ask how much it would cost to build a PC to run crysis on that level?
>>337351052
meant for
>>337350740
>Actually trying to discuss graphics on /v/, or almost any vidya forum for that matter
Why would you do this? Basically no one actually understands even half the basics of real time rendering and just shit's out stuff like "LOOK AT HOW GOOD THIS SCREENSHOT LOOKS!!!!!" and "NUH UH THIS PICTURE IS PRETTYER" and then everyone continuously shits on each other like a bunch of retarded coprophiliac babies
>>337351052
Crysis 2 and 3 worked spectacular in low/mid tier rigs. Too bad they were shitty games
>>337350152
Post video
WOW, the PC mustard race gets triggered so hard by Uncharted 4.
It's hilarious to read their asshurt posts.
>>337351186
Trying to discuss anything on /v/ illicits the same response this place is shit
>>337350007
Fucking this.
>>337351016
Its because most people can't run it above 30FPS at VH settings so people turn shit down drastically to make it run well.
>>337350187
TLoU was ported to PS4, so they should know it and have less problems.
TLoU on PS4 looks better than UC4
>>337349529
BUT IT'S SO MATURE ANON!
>>337350187
>mastered the power of the cell
someday you'll learn what "optimization" means
>>337351837
tlou looks good but uh, no it doesn't look better than Uncharted 4.
>>337351471
That is the video.
>>337350536
>not playing with tons of mods so you could have dozens of classes and races
>>337349336
Arma 3 is pretty optimized for single player, it's when you go online your fps is dictated by the server you are playing on. If the server is cap at 30 or can't reach 60 which is 90% of the a3 servers out there, then you can't either
>>337351973
Well, the PS3's processor was at the time incredibly esoteric. It is true that mnay developers really did improve their skills over time to make the game look better.
HOWEVER, and this is a big however, the new consoles just use bog-standard x86 processors, exactly the same as in PCs. This, what we're seeing right now, is pretty much the pinnacle of what can be done on PS4/XBONE, save for possibly a few enhancements based on new techniques or new engines. But this is basically the best that the consoles will get for a long time.
>>337349309
Can't show AI on bullshots.
>no one likes to talk about GTA IV graphic mods
Why?
https://youtu.be/1o-ojTM6tCE
>>337352208
kek. sonycucks BTFO
>>337352409
Even if they're not going to improve AI for the graphics fag bullshots, there's still a fuck tonne of work they can do for animations.
>>337352460
This mod makes me realise just how fucking weird it is to see a city like this with hardly anyone on the street.
>>337350705
the fact that parts of it are still comparable without it being laughable is a pretty sad indictment desu
>>337352208
>dat ground
>dem hair
if not for a lot of greenery, it would look like a ps3 game
>>337349094
Uncharted 4 looks better than anything on your cuckplattform :^)
>>337352460
Or great graphics mods for shitty games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGyaR2sSBkA
4k 60fps
>>337351514
Reddit is over there, friend. Your upvotes await.
>>337352460
>>337352208
>>337352048
>>337352652
All these look like shit, GTA IV never was and never will be impressive graphic-wise, neither is Uncharted or TLoU.
They're fucking disgusting.
>all this photomode
If you're going to shill your shit platform and game then at least post actual screenshots not bullshots.
>>337349336
>you need an i7 for gaming
nice meme, my friend
>>337352759
Keep lying to yourself, cuck.
>>337352652
saved pic
>>337349529
Why would you want to travel to the mountain in the distance?
This is why sandboxshit is horrible. So much shit you can do, and for what reason? It's not even satisfying.
>>337349309
No one cares about facing AI in missions
I just want an optimized game
>>337349986
>Actually a I7 only gets about four frames more than a I3 at similar frequencies.
Usually true, but not for some modern engine games, in particular ARMA3.
ARMA eats up CPU
The industry and consumer focus of muh graphics and muh realism has caused stagnation in vidya visuals because they aren't focusing on making games look interesting with the tech they have now. The inverse is that most indie games are just bad pixel art.
>>337352874
>to flank the enemy
>to get superior position
>to recon the area
>to set up a base
Arma3 benefits massively from having one of the biggest and most detailed maps in gaming
>>337352759
GTA 4 was literally the most impressive open world game when it came out
>>337352874
>This is why sandboxshit is horrible. So much shit you can do, and for what reason? It's not even satisfying.
>>337352652
>looks worse than a game from 2007
>>337349309
>>337349309
>>337349309
>>337349309
>>337349309
I want to play a videogame, not a movie
>>337352741
Man, even the gameplay just in that video looks like such unfun, immersion breaking trash.
This stuff just makes me so mad. We'll never get this good of technology in an actually good game because everything has to appeal to cavemen.also that piano version of where is my mind is fucking orgasmic
>tfw /a3g/ is dead
>>337353325
>Them sprite leaves
Oh I am laffen
>>337349094
is 2016 one remastered version of 2013 one?
>tfw you've played and enjoyed both
Honestly OP both look pretty shit
Also arma3 runs like complete shit
>>337349309
i dunno mayne Rainbow Six Siege has bretty gud ai they work alot like FEAR's they call out to each other take cover and flank you but i dont see any other games do that.
>>337349094
>open world vs not open world
>>337350427
>>337350564
>>337350618
I love how this gif triggers the PC bros
>>337353634
? literally looks real
>>337353325
>Still nothing tops a 2007 game.
So yeah graphics have been deadlocked for almost 10 years. Time focus on some other aspect.
>>337352208
Dear god this looks aweful its barely 2006-2008 crysis demo-warhead level in fact its worse the lighting is horrid and colors washed out
>>337350427
>>337350438
pfff kek
>uncharted 4 is one of the best looking games of all time, if not the best.
>everyone is amazed that it's running on ps4 hardware
>naughty dog praise everywhere for it
>except at /v/
Why do people cry so hard to defend or ridicule something? Why can't people just enjoy shit, get off /v/ and go play some games, faggot.
does uncharted run at 30fps?
>>337349094
I hope so. I want to finally buy a second card and SLI instead of buying the newest one every year.
>>337353325
somebody post the screencap
>>337349309
There were huge ammount of games with good AI, this games are not made to be good they are made to be played by 13 year olds.
Yea, it's a shame, UC4 doesn't even look better than some F2P games.
But, whatever, this isn't that much of a surprise, PS4 isn't that powerful.
>>337353876
Platform wars, that's why.
>>337353881
Yes, it's solid as fuck too.
we are at diminishing returns.
now if we would improve physics and how many elements you can have on screen.
>>337353876
Sony fags finally have something so they need to flaunt it and PC fags take the bait every time.
>>337353794
550x283
>>337349336
>>bottom runs "smoothly" on a $40 apu
Nice meme you got there. Shame if something were to "Happen" to it...
>>337352208
Obviusly fake
>>337353243
>yfw this is Kazlauskas
>>337353536
FEAR's AI is nothing special at all, one of the main developers talked about their AI at some game developer talk thingy and it was pretty much just level design and placement of the enemies that made it seem like the AI was extremely good while it was actually on the same level as the Half Life 2 AI or something.
>>337353876
Because people have the memory of a leaky civ
a fucking 2006 PC game still blows this out of the water.
Naughty Dogs trees are horrible low poly 2D and the colors are all washed out not sure why you would do that but aside from the bullshits the game looks pretty average to be honest.
Hilarious almost 10 years later the PC is at near photo realism in alot of the UE4 demos but consoles have barely caught up.
Now normally i wouldnt care but i am SICK of ps4fags saying uncharted 4 IS THE BESTED LOOKING GAME EVER FOR ALL TIME WE CANT TOP IT
Sorry even TLoU remastered looks better and other titles like until dawn, sure they dont run as smooth but are technically more impressive at least to me i dont even own a ps4 lel
Then the PS4K Neo will come out with TLoU 2 or some other ND game and blow everyone away again until the PS5 and so on and so on
>>337354121
That framerates about as rocky as those waves.
>>337349309
>but we added an extra-hard setting to fight against, isn't that enough?
Man PC users are out in full force today shitting up uncharted 4 and unloading their shitposting folders in every thread that mentions the game.
There seems to be an infinite number of them who just continuously emerged out of the woodwork. I'm kind of amazed really at how much damage control has happened here over the last two days.
>>337349570
>photo mode
Hey guys remember how great halo 3 looked?
I don't even know what uncharted is and apparently the 4th game is already coming out
>>337354246
Have you played the game? There was a COOP mod for fear combats MP mode and the ai was completely dynamic its FAR beyond HL2's shitty ai.
i swear to god /v/ spouts shit about games never having played them.
ive actually played ALL naughty dogs games save for this so i know exactly what to expect, its a clunky dumb action game that only saving grace is a good story and characters, the graphics an gameplay has always been sub par i just play it for the bantz
>>337354246
FEAR AI is nothing special, but map is not reason why people like the AI.
It's the interaction with the map and ability to loose the player and search for him.
Meanwhile on PC
Whoa...
>>337354364
>PC gamers
>on /v/
No shit sherlock if you want to get jerked off about your ps4's 'awesome graphics' that barely run at 20-30fps go somewhere else.
>>337354484
Nice PS2 game.
>>337354469
Damn that Alpha is brutal i loaded it up my PC ate like 10gb of ram
got 30fps+ on max settings which is better than the PS4 hahahah
Are good graphics the most expensive part of game development? Because many small/medium companies seem to deliver on the graphics department without having the budget of AssCreed or CoD, and it's not even close
Games like Metro series, Serious Sam 3, Shadow Warrior 2013, and more look pretty good and as far as I know they weren't hollywoodian budgets
>>337354254
Show me a TLOU screenshot that looks better than this.
In fact show me a PC game running off a $300 build that looks better than this. >inb4 you start posting your crysis folder and hide form the fact that you need a $1000 pc to run it
Next gen...
>>337354469
>12080*800
the current graphical bottleneck is on the resolution.the jump from 420 to 1080 was simply too quick for the hardware.
4k is likely to be a trainwreak for 2/3 years before anything can run it correctly.
It's photo mode, the game doesn't actually look like that when you're playing it.
>>337354602
1440p60 here, might wan't to upgrade your toaster.
>>337354039
>30fps
>ever being acceptable
i will continue playing at 150+ fps on my 144hz monitor thank you very much!
>>337354626
Good looking art is expensive, but making 3D engine look good is not that hard.
Who cares when the game puts you to sleep
All these fucking retards. The photos the sony fags are posting are from the photo mode which upscales the graphics and resolution and takes one picture. The game looks nothing like that.
>>337354039
>Yes, it's solid as fuck too.
>>337354121
>>337354642
Dark Souls 3 running in a Intel Core 2 Duoc + 128 dollars gpu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsG9sXzM5b8
>>337354703
Depends on your toaster. With decent hardware it can run it on 1080p easily.
>>337354831
I still can't believe these weren't bullshots
>>337354121
CINEMATIC 24 FPS
HUMAN EYE CANT HANDLE FAST FPS AND ARTIFICIALLY SHARP AND CLEAN IMAGES
PKEKS BTFO
>>337354121
C I N E M A T I C
T W E N T Y
F O U R
E F F P E E S
>>337354848
only place in the game the frame-rate buckles
They even mention this fact in the video
This...is the power...
>>337354801
>photo mode upscales the graphics
Holy shit that damage control. All photo mode is doing in this picture is removing the MC from hanging off a beam. There is zero effects in this screenshot and it looks better in a non-static screenshot.
All you're doing is complimenting the game. Thanks lmao
>>337354993
That motion blur is the worst fucking part about this screenshot
I refuse to play any game with it.
>>337354642
>>inb4 you start posting your crysis folder and hide form the fact that you need a $1000 pc to run it
>2016
>1000 pc to run crysis
love this meme
>>337354993
>those shadows
>>337354083
no one is flaunting U4. most of the threads are >SO THIS IS THE POWER
>>337355014
You keep misusing the word compliment anon
>>337354484
i get the feeling that Uncharted 4 was really meant to be a PS3 or a PS4.5k neo and we got something inbetween
Think about it development started around 2011 when the PS3 was at its peak then the PS4 devkits went out about 2012 and had a monster 8 core amd fx cpu at 3ghz+ and 8gb of ram and a 7970 or something like that
THEN the actual PS4 comes out with horrible specs, a fucking Dual Quad Core APU with 8 threads/cores at 1.6ghz and a presumably a 7870 that was a little beefier
THEN in 2014 they get optimistic, target 60fps and silently drop it to 30fps and downgrade the shit out of the game
Hitman can barely run at 30fps and its actually cpu bound its pathetic
>>337354626
No marketing is, and since alot of game engines have been pre made and capable of these graphics for well over 10 years its just a boogeyman /v/ latches onto for some reason
The real cost is Q&A, optimization (devs hardly ever do this now because the ps4 is so weak anyway) and literally just bare essential man hours.
Depends on the game but mainly its marketing and programming
>>337354723
waiting for vega10
>>337354993
CHRIST i literally thought that was uncharted 1-2 the motion blur looks like its upsampled and the Temporal AA looks horrendous
>>337355014
>Tfw this still looks worse than Crysis 3, a game from 2013
Sasuga Sony.
Sonyjabronies and PC nerds are fucking getting unbearable. both platforms have their merits
>PS4
Bloodborne
>PC
Every other game on the planet.
>>337355014
Yeah sure man
>>337352208
>>337354993
...of jagged shadows!
>>337349094
ARMA 3 runs and plays like shit though.
>>337355110
is for
>>337354801
>>337354083
I just tried to start a thread and it got raided like usual.
I'll try again tomorrow but it'll be the same thing, every other fanbase will just raid and shitpost it again while Stelaris threads go untouched.
Why do people say people who play Sony games are the biggest shitposters is really sad.
>>337354993
Watch the sonyfaggots ignore this dull and true screenshot
Fuck the bullshots in motion this game is plain ugly
With the budget that Naughty Dog has and can spend, they could've made much more, in terms of graphics, but they had to work around the PS4 limitations so there's that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTt7AGIpV2I
>>337355014
>thanks for complimenting the game
How big of a cuck are you? Unless you were a developer, why would feel like your value is linked to people liking this game?
>>337355245
>>337353191
Who the fuck is talking about impressive mechanics faggot, learn how to read.
Don't even respond you massive monkey.
>>337354910
>decent
aka expensive.
you can't pretend a resolution is "standard" if it doesn't run flawlessly in middle range cheap hardware. We are reaching that for 1080p just now. And not even for all games.
Whoa...
It's like...I'm really there...
This whole photo mode that Sony games use is scummy as fuck. You're basically making other people try to pass your game as way better looking than it is.
>>337355191
So explain this:
>>337352208
Your webm is probably from a tiny level where they increased the graphics so you cucks can brag. Even though it looks worse than some pc games and runs at <30fps
>>337355297
you won't trick us
>>337355110
>>337355245
You do realize that's a car chase scene and you're wizzing past those environments and you'll never seen them unless you're autistic enough to grab a screenshot and intetionally shitpost like the cancerous shit you are
>>337355418
kek this looks like a bad photoshop
You know a game is shit when the main selling point is graphics
My condolences, Sony friends
>>337355132
>the motion blur looks like its upsampled
The lighting looks like it's using the same as Tomb Raider where it's operating at a different resolution. It's not full GI though. And the Aliasing is switching between 2x-4x AF and Trillinear on the fly as well.
I'm shocked Digital Foundry didn't go ham on the game because it hits every single 8th gen problem but they somehow gave it a pass.
>muh graphics
>>337355297
once again really not that impressive the AA is glitching out around the windows.
Temporal AA shouldnt do that so nfi whats going on there.
Water looks worse than a 2003 Source Engine game and lower resolution water as well
Lighting is nice on the roof but the shadows (complete lack there of) and what i have already mentioned is pretty noticable.
Assets look nice but once again its got issues
>>337349458
>>337350587
>stop holding us back console pisants
Im retarded and cant into pc forgive me
>>337352208
DELETE THIS
>>337355418
uncharted shadows are fucking garbage only the backed stuff is ok, anything dynamic is fucking shit I'm surprised sites like Eurogamer couldn't see the issue.
>>337355297
Are you literally autistic? This doesn't look good at all.
>>337349570
>Have PC users ever had to damage control this hard for a game before?
>He wasn't around for that year between GTAVs release and its next gen announcement
Newfag.
>it's another "graphics is the most important thing about video games" thread
How many games do you people play? Like one every 5 years until a better looking one comes out? You don't play games that are graphically inferior to the one with the best graphics, right? That would be hypocritical.
>>337355454
>Your webm is probably from a tiny level where they increased the graphics so you cucks can brag.
I'm not even shitposting when I say this but that's not the case, that entire level carries the same level of fidelity across it. People aren't praising this game to high heaven for a specially designed area, they are praising it because the level of detail is consistent throughout the jungle and it looks fucking amazing.
>>337355458
IT LOOKS LIKE ABSOLUTE SHIT
Remember motorstorms horrible motion blur? Thats exactly what it looks like.
>>337355519
>I'm shocked Digital Foundry didn't go ham on the game because it hits every single 8th gen problem but they somehow gave it a pass.
Yeah this really bugs me too they dont show any of the bad graphics its almost like they where scared to.
No idea why i guess eurogamer wouldnt get those nice sonybribes i guess
>>337355418
looks like a 2012-2013 game pretty average
>>337355540
>sony has best graphics! look at how weak the xbone is!
>muh graphics! graphics never mattered, it's about gameplay!
Too bad Uncharted has neither.
>>337355418
when did console game started getting blurry as fuck
is to create the illusion of having AA?
>>337355684
uncharted was always a graphic demo. it plays like shit. nobody is going to defend a 15 hour long walk that ends with "press triangle to kill last boss"
uh oh
Whoa...
Naughty...GODS
>>337355739
Then
Explain
>>337352208
Also your webm looks pretty shitty there, can see stuttering aliasing and shitty textures
>>337349309
100% this. I also want MORE npc's, objects etc on screen.
>>337349094
why do you compare a console game vs a pc game are you fucking retarded? consoles will always be shit
>>337355684
Well we got fuck all to talk about
What else can we talk about?
>Terrible clunky gameplay, wonky controls and stupid broken cover system that the games had since 2007
>Framerate drops in a ND 2016 PS4 game
>30fps in a 'action tps' game like this even in SP with shitty AI is inexcusable
>Bullet sponge enemies
I hate to say it but MGS5 almost looks as good and gets 60fps and has better AI
>>337355785
What game is that? Looks good
>>337355739
looks like it misses a shader pass. there's no ambiant occlusion shadows there. At laest not strong enough to match the light.
>>337355835
That webm is compressed to hell and back, its from a youtube video which is compressed further, my one is from direct feed
>>337355785
The PS4 really is a piece of shit and I'm saying this as a Sonybro.
Then again the Pii U and Xbone are even bigger pieces of shit.
TL;DR 8th gen was a mistake.
>>337355808
Forgot my image.
I was too in awe from the presence of Naughty God's graphics.
>>337355785
Where the fuck is the reflections in the water?
notice how the DoF and Blur/bloom cover EVERYTHING
>>337355785
not sure why Naugthy dogs refused to use hard shadows , it makes the huge difference.
Great game
>>337355873
This thread isn't about uncharted though, it's about graphics. Read the fucking OP dumbass.
>>337355873
>Terrible clunky gameplay, wonky controls and stupid broken cover system that the games had since 2007
nah
>Framerate drops in a ND 2016 PS4 game
nah
>30fps in a 'action tps' game like this even in SP with shitty AI is inexcusable
nah
>Bullet sponge enemies
nah
anything else?
The game is great and I'm having a lot of fun, there is literally nothing you can do to stop me having fun with this game.
Does that make you mad anon?
>>337349094
You know that arma runs at worse framerate than ponymovies, right?
2008
>>337356157
Crysis looked better than Warhead.
Its a fun game
>>337356157
does it look like that on a $300 machine?
>>337355949
>plastic sand
What the fuck? Even UC3 had better sand
This game reeks of a last minute downgrade
evidently since it cant hit 30fps smoothly
>>337356070
>mfw uncharted series is so dull outside the slightly below average graphics even /v/ cant talk about anything else
>>337356072
Have fun with it if you must, its literally the ps4's only decent game.
I'm under the impression that consolefags have never seen Crysis 3 considering how impressed they are by UC4.
What happened to PC gaming?
This is what happens when you use AMD for your gpu
>>337356337
>Still cant run at smooth 30fps
>>337356337
>its literally the ps4's only decent game.
>what is Bloodborne
>>337355014
>photo mode upscales the graphics
Yeah, this is exactly how halo looked when you were playing it lol
>>337356354
does it look like that on a $300 machine?
>>337349094
yes, since about 2007-2009
>>337356268
Yes. Today's $200 PCs can run Crisis at max settings.
>>337355110
why do you keep posting this shit like its amazing
ac paris boogaloo looks better
>>337352208
>see digital foundry titling this a technical masterpiece
>this is in the first 2 minutes of the video
god, when its not literally a movie it looks like fucking garbage
>>337356470
Yes.
>>337356373
>TBS
Seems, nothing bad.
>>337349309
>Tfw half life 1 still has better AI than most modern games
>>337354642
>need a $1000 pc to run it
You can run Crysis 1 on a fucking athlon 64 and a 3870 from over a decade ago.
>>337356470
Considering when I took that shot I was running an HD 7870, a Q8200, and 6 GB of DDR2 RAM, probably.
And even then the game ran pretty well on high-very high at 30+ FPS.
>>337355739
this looks like gothic 2 with the revamped graphics mod and dx11 renderer
>>337356337
you can scream your head off until you turn blue, but uncharted 4 is still the best looking console game around, plays great and is a lot of fun.
Only false-flagging and baiting retards were saying it looked any better than pc games running on a decent system
Can retards who don't know anything about game development just not discuss it?
The bottom is just low detail inaccessible landscape area , the top is playable area.
It doesn't say anything about the quality of the graphics
>>337356268
Game is almost 10 years old. I'll bet you could do that with less than $300.
>>337356638
>best looking console game around
Best looking shit is still shit.
>>337356638
>plays great
>a lot of fun
this is how indepth uncharted fanboys can get when it comes to discussing video games
I bet you unironically use the term "gunplay"
>>337356638
>but uncharted 4 is still the best looking console game around
Nah, that would be Ryse.
>>337356373
Nothing it has more games than ever.
The PS4 is hemorrhaging devs.
Most of the real talented ones from ps1-3 are all gone all the talent GONE usually back to PC's or onto movies
>>337356437
i dont play memebourne its just not 'fun' for me
>>337356507
at least we have physically based rendering now thats literally the only advance besides Global illumination and Ray Traced Shadows and better reflections but we've had all that since 2014
Only thing we can do now is just cram more poly's and bigger textures and higher resolutions but once we reach around 8k 120-240hz thats probably where we will stay for a LONG time
>>337356638
It really isnt that impressive even on the PS4 honestly i think Until Dawn and other games shit over it
>>337356759
Too bad it was shit. But Ryse did look good.
>>337354870
How about posting something that looks good? Idiot.
>>337356805
Most games with GRAFIX out the asshole are pretty shit.
THIS IS ARMA 3 DEV BRANCH WITH THE NEW LIGHTING UPGRADE I REPEAT THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE
>>337356224
>Even bioware shit looks better
Literally death to 8th gen consoles.
>>337349570
>those jaggies everywhere
..............woah................... so.......... this....... true............ super........ charged........... power.......
Now I understand why people are review bombing and shitposting this game to hell and back, a Sony game can't look good, it just can't otherwise it disrupts the the very sanctity millions of peoples mental health.
I don't know why this is such an atrocity but it is, it's as if this game has raped peoples mothers, it sends people into a blind rage. I've thought I had already seen the worst side of /v/ shitposting before but nothing like this, it's really unbelievable.
>>337356894
Most launch games in general are shit.
>>337356896
desu senpai this looks pretty ass compared to >>337356935
>>337356896
I wonder, how much money was put into the engine.
Didnt this faggots make simulators for actual army?
>>337356759
technically yes but art direction is pretty bad the buildings especially.
>>337356805
This.
Even a 3 year old xboner game looks better but the gameplay is even worse.
Whats funny is that the PS4 literally has no games for next year because of the VR Morpheus crap so after that flops i guess it might get some games in 2018/19 before the PS5 comes out in 2021 HAHAHAHAH
>>337356734
keep posting anon.
Uncharted 4 is fun, controls are tight, traversal is fun and the gunplay is great
never forget it
>>337356935
Did they fire their UI designer?
>>337357061
It has a few. It's still an overrated console though. Not worth it for the handful of stuff it has unless you need at home video system or have money to burn.
>>337356373
Nothing is ok.
>>337349094
>Top
Game running on a 500$ graphics card and still only gets 30fps
>Bottom
Game running on a 300$ outdated toaster of a console console
You'd have a point if Arma 3 looked like that while also running well on something like a 750ti, but nah that shit is so fucking poorly optimized.
>>337356896
>All those millions from the US Army
>STILL cant work soft shadows into a 2016 game
fuck sake i usually dont care about graphics in sims but its a ugly game
>>337357162
i hate to sound like a chode but i am waiting for the PS4 Neo around the end of its lifecycle and go back and play the launch games at 60fps 1080p because i actually like the look of some of them its just they run so bad i cbf
20-29fps is not playable
30fps locked is playable if its very smooth which almost NONE of the 1080p 30fps ps4 games are.
And it has almost 0 native 1080p 60fps games even the MP ones dip down to 900p or less and look like blurry ass
>>337357051
Bohemia Interactive and Bohemia Interactive Simulations are two different studios, afaik they rarely share code.
Lol, almost everything in UC4 is pre-baked and using pseudo effects. There isn't even any real-time AO.
That's why you can see so many environments that looks ugly as hell when the game need to rely on its shitty lighting system instead.
And not to mention the blatant full on culling just to use a completely different lighting in cutscenes. (You can't rotate or zoom out at all in those, only zoom in)
>>337349094
Now compare character animations.
>>337357243
Are you Chinese by any chance? Please dont use this game for shitposting wars.
>>337357338
You literally have a slider for soft shadows in the options menu
>>337355329
>impressive mechanics
Where the fuck did it said impressive MECHANICS faggot, learn how to read. Impressive as in "visually impressive"
(Which was not actually the case, unmodded GTAIV looked pretty meh, I'm not the anon you were talking to, but still, you're a faggot that cannot read properly).
>>337357320
>$500gpu
In a little bit under a month you will be able to build a PC that will rape consoles and current games for over 5 years.
When Vega and Zen come out even longer
>>337357412
Then why does it still look like ass?
>>337357052
What the fuck
>>337356948
>I've thought I had already seen the worst side of /v/ shitposting before but nothing like this, it's really unbelievable.
you clearly weren't around for bloodborne's launch
/v/ just has a hateboner for anything sony, this is the board that sent nintendo a fucking thank-you card for an advert, remember?
>>337350790
casuals don't car about gameplay, they care about looking cool and graphics
Why does everybody excuse that Uncharted 4 is just a bunch of very nice looking shooting galleries strung together with boring easy puzzles and a predictable Hollywood style story?
Like, it's alright but how is it legitimately getting straight 10/10s goat candidate everywhere and from everyone? It's like the people claiming it's the best of all time don't even play videogames.
>>337356018
A better question is why arent penumbra shadows fucking standard by this point.
A fucking flight sim made by poor and drunk russians on a shoestring budget in 2011 had them. But a AAAA++++ big budget game from the top console maker can't.
Do they just realize that joe blow wont notice the difference and thus dont care? Or does the slightly higher performance impact mean they cant do as many omg so cool explosions.
>>337357509
>/v/ just has a hateboner for anything sony
Probably because Sony has the most obnoxious fanbase in the industry.
And considering how obnoxious all the other fanbases are, that's saying something.
>>337356157
Crysis is a game that really need super sampling for the vegetation
I may not judge Splatoon as my favourite game of this generation. One of my favourite games probably, but not my favourite game.
Even if it may not be my favourite game however, it's seriously speaking, strangely enough the game I have that feels the most "next-gen".
The use of the gyro is really spectacular, and the gamepad screen while not doing much is still something. All things considered, when I play Splatoon I feel like I am playing something like I've done in the past only that the way I am playing it has actually been improved. To this day when I tune into Splatoon for whatever regular Splatfest they've got going I feel it every time.
Games like Bloodborne or Dark Souls 3 I may be more into, but as I play them I still really wish that they'd incorporate basic stuff to expand how you play them. Implementing gyro for camera controls alone would feel amazing playing those games, it really feels like the industry has stagnated a lot. And I won't point fingers at From Software specifically since I feel like just about everyone in the industry suffers from it. But I have started to get the feeling that the industry has really gotten stuck in the old tried and proven stuff. And no I won't advocate anything crazy, the Wii era waggle controls was a tremendous fuckup for instance. But I am starting to feel like developers aren't even trying to improve anymore and that just feels sad.
>>337349336
>top "requires" hardware that was created years after the games release
>bottom often dips below 30fps
Indeed.
>>337357368
That would make no sense, IMO.
Also VBS2 looks close enough to arma2.
>>337349094
Does uncharted 4 use Temporal AA (TAA)? If so that means its running it at less than 1080p and upscaling it to essentially blur out alaising. So uncharted 4 runs at like 720p or 900p 24FPS.
Fucking kek
>>337357472
I already have a PC that rapes current gen consoles, and has done since before they were even out.
However Arma 3 still runs like ass on it. It's just not a good example.
Remember Crysis? Nobody could max that out at a resonable frame rate and res for literal years after it game out. The tech simply cannot keep up, this is why games end up hitting certain points where there isn't much advancement for a few years at a time. They know a very small minority will be buying high grade cards or SLI'ing, so there's no point putting the extra effort in until the mid range tech catches up.
>>337356896
Are they on a full blown pbr pipeline now?
>>337357052
jesus fucking christ
>>337356072
Not him but it makes me slightly nauseous knowing that there are actually people with taste this shit
>>337357726
He is correct. They company split and the game and military sim makers are not the same anymore.
>>337357509
Nah man, even then it was much tamer than this, I think its because Bloodborne is still kind of within a niche genre even on /v/ and people who typically like and play games like Bloodborne aren't usually as casual as people who would keel over to play Uncharted.
I think that's a large reason why, it's just attracted the herds of normies on /v/ that I otherwise never interact with and their combined effort to shitpost Sony just threw me off at how cancerous they are.
I REPEAT NOT REAL
>>337357649
>smash thread
>discussion of the game
>arma thread
>discussion of the game
>uncharted/bloodborne thread
>instantly derailed by rampant shitposting
yeah it truly is the sony fans that fuck up /v/....
>>337357774
Its 1080p native, the OP has the shittiest screenshot they can find.
>>337353463
>everyone carrying an rpg-7
seems about right
>>337357409
what's the problem are you racist?
>>337357667
And yet none of those games have remarkable graphics of any kind. Games are neither improving in graphical fidelity, or ingenious innovation.
>>337357052
what a qt
>>337356541
That looks like garbage to you? what the fuck games are you playing?
>>337349336
>GTX 770
>Fx 6300 OC
>Runs at High-Ultra at above 45 FPS at 1080p
This is b8 anyways but still
CAN YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE? I LITERALLY CAN NOT
>>337356638
>best looking console game
not even close
>>337357874
DX12 version when, that would make this game run so much smoother.
>>337349094
>no details or objects at all in the bottom pic, just empty space
wooooooooow
>>337357554
>t's like the people claiming it's the best of all time don't even play videogames.
Gee who would've thought
Like when all the game reviewers sucked biowares cock over ME, but not a single one of them mentioned the mechanics it ripped off from Star Control.
Video game reviewers are incredibly ignorant of the history of games, and it shows in their opinions.
>>337349309
Problem is the avg gamer is dumb as fuck and would not give a shit about AI, mechanics ,depth, game balance and other shit. The Devs know this and all they need is to keep things simple, they get paid either way, no point in doing more work.
>>337357821
>other people dare to enjoy games I don't like for no other reason than the platform it's released on
okay bub
>>337349094
>comparing a shit game like arma 3 to a game that will be the GOTY
PCucks everyone
>>337357667
If you want gyro strap your phone to your dick and fling it around.
That shit deserves to stay on the mobiles.
>inb4 its not that bad
Fuck you i played sixaxis ps3 games at launch it was that bad and still is fuck gyro
>>337357779
even with two 88gtx/ultra's it barely got to 30-40fps but common it looked fucking amazing it still does
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2403/4
>>337357898
Not, was one screenshot showed like an example of top graphics in videogames, look to the history thread.
>>337349309
Can't sell a game on good AI when consumers don't care about gameplay.
>>337357876
>Smash thread OP
Hey guys, let's talk about Sm4sh, post your favorite characters? Who wants a Sm4sh /v/keend?
>Arma thread OP
Arma thread boys, get in here, who /readyforDLC/?
>Uncharted/Bloodborne thread OP
HAHAHA, SUCK IT PCFAGS/XBONERS/NINTODDLERS, SONY WINS AGAIN, UNCHARTED/BLOODBORNE IS FUCKING AMAZING
Gee anon, I wonder why Sony threads get shit up all the time.
>>337354546
Mfw my nuclear power plant can't run it smoothly.
>>337357667
gyro in souls would be shit
>>337357991
nice res for comparison
>>337358016
it is but only for the expansion i think which is bullshit
maybe next year it will come out and honestly i havent had the game installed for over 3years it ran so bad im just gonna wait till its out
>>337358007
ironically it runs at 900p 60fps without any drops
>>337358007
this is obviously pc
>>337349094
Half of these PS4 "screenshots" are taken from youtube videos where the PC ones are taken in-game. No shit the PC will look better.
>>337358068
>If you want gyro strap your phone to your dick and fling it around.
>That shit deserves to stay on the mobiles.
As if you've never been chased in a Souls game and needed to keep your thumb on the roll / item buttons and thus been unable to control your camera in ending in your demise since you couldn't adjust the camera without letting go of the controls.
>>337358090
You obviously don't know hoe 4chan works, let me clear it up for you.
If you see a thread you don't like: hide it and don't reply to it.
If you reply you are literally making that thread last longer and directly contributing to the proliferation of threads you don't like. Do you realise how retarded that is?
It's like the homophobe walking into a gaybar story.
>>337357386
Something must have gone on for Naughty Dog to shut up about it's graphics tech so suddenly before release and the massive problems no one wants to notice. They fired some of their programming team in the middle of development and buried it in the press.
Compared to The Order which did have GI, 4xMSAA, 8xAF (Though they did fudge the native resolution a bit for the 16:9 presentation. It looks dynamic later in the game). UC 4 looks horrible. And it looks worse than some third party games on PS4. Amazed no one in the press even sought to question why
>>337358293
how does youtube make the draw distance look like shit?
What compression can do this?
Does anyone here actually play console games?
i'm just wondering
>>337350587
You're being held back by lazy as fuck developers.
There's nothing wrong with better graphics but good art direction blows any graphical advance out of the water, especially when the game is straying outside of reality in any way whatsoever. I'd rather have mediocre graphics over clichéd art directions any time.
>>337357243
top would require a great rig to play and you know it
>>337358061
Platform? I have a PS4, bought it for Bloodborne. That doesn't change that the Uncharted series has always been bland with shitty simplistic gameplay.
>>337358317
I think you are the one who deosn't understand how open forums works.
>>337358317
>If you reply you are literally making that thread last longer and directly contributing to the proliferation of threads you don't like.
howneu.ru?
S
A
G
E
>>337358317
I hate to tell you m8, but most people are just going to fling shit back.
It just so happens that most of the instigators are Sonyfags, so complaining about this is like being the fat annoying kid that spit spitballs at the kid in front of him and got upset when the kid sucker punched him in gym.
>>337356589
>Even the roaches have AI
>Different aliens have different pack AI
https://youtu.be/Elwb2lV88hM
https://youtu.be/RV9ooD5rx1o
https://youtu.be/9jO-P3kXlCI
>>337358016
>>337358227
They don't want to go back and redo Altis and Stratis. The new map will be much more optimized but alot of things probably won't use it, like KOTH servers or non-milsim missions.
They are just saving the optimized stuff for Arma 4 which is probably still a ways off.
>>337358439
PC / ps4
uncharted 4 is great fun, I don't give a fuck if you don't like it.
>>337358457
If the guy below you bumps without saging it doesn't do shit
>>337358328
>Amazed no one in the press even sought to question why
I know why.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>>337358328
>They fired some of their programming team in the middle of development and buried it in the press.
Whats her name, right? Corrine Yu or something?
>Amazed no one in the press even sought to question why
big budget console exclusive, thats why
>>337354254
This
>>337358448
>I'm going to bump threads I don't like
well then carry on dickhead
>>337358457
even if you sage the people who reply likely won't
R
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T
A
R
D
>>337355418
Why now almost every game tries too hard to make the textures covered in some kind of vaseline, Vermintide has the same fucking problem and it makes me fucking mad because it would totally look better if it wasn't because shit looks like made of play-doh
>>337354642
>that blurry mess of "branches"
How can you possibly think that looks good?
WE HAVE BEATEN THE SHACKLES OF REALITY, I REPEAT LEFT IS IN GAME, RIGHT IS FAKE
Even 9 years later a fucking $3k pc running a resolution from 2009 can barely get 50-60fps at max on crysis 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mW5odWok2k
Still looks great though hasnt aged a day
>>337358530
Wait so is the new map and expansion free? If not as a original early access backer ill just fucking pirate it
glad i only paid $30 for it, pos
>>337358409
Official requirements:
Intel Core Duo 2.4 Ghz CPU
4Gb RAM
NVidia GeForce GTS 250, 512 Mb video card
Windows XP/Vista/7/8 operating system
DirectX 9.0c
>>337358520
>most of the instigators are Sonyfags
>meanwhile /v/ is full of multiple threads mocking uncharted
>it was the same around bb's launch
okay anon whatever you want to believe
>>337358639
>well then carry on dickhead
Why do I care. I'm in the fucking thread.
>>337349094
>those leaves on Butthurt4
lmao
>>337358534
kek for a guy who doesn't give a fuck that I don't like it you sure like replying to me. Come on man, feed me dem (You)s. Also, if you think U4 is great fun then check out The Order 1886, you'll have a blast
>>337350536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VEKCCe3JAs&feature=youtu.be
SO THIS
IS THE POWER
OF PS4
WOAHHH.....
>>337358717
That's because it's programmed by monkeys and therefore won't run well. It has nothing with technical limits being pushed.
Stop encouraging shit development by praising Crysis 1
>>337358732
>Wasn't here when there were literally 8+ threads of UC4 reviews posted by Sonyfags
So either you're new or retarded, take your pick.
>>337358601
So what happens if I hide a thread and someone responds to it?
The same fucking thing
>>337358763
I don't think uncharted 4 is great fun, it actually is great fun
I bet my rig is better than yours but I don't need decent graphics to have fun
>>337358709
>Dat drawdistance
common dawg i know its not playable but looks sick
Maybe in 2020 with a 790x 32gb HBM3 card ill get playable fps in that game, cant forget ill need a 16core 32thread AMD Zen2 FX110BE cpu and 128gb of DDR5 ram
ITT mustards salty that their gaming toy gets literally no great looking games
>>337358732
Sonyggers before exclusive launch:
>NEVER EVER
>Whoa so this is the power of...
>PC release when
Sonyggers after exclusive launch
>Why you mocking in my game?
>Please stop
>We're the victims
>>337358527
Why is it so hard for developers to actually make good games anymore?
>>337354060
Inb4 I have to upgrade from my micro ATX mobo to get another PCIe slot for a dedicated physics card
>>337358826
Huh?
Crysis 1 has MORE foiliage and is better optimized than Crysis 2 or 3 AND runs on a 10 year old API
Hell even Kingdumb Cum Deliverance has barely caught up and its using CE3
>>337349094
The problem with graphics right now is that the software tech can't keep up with the hardware tech more specifically in terms of cost. We have incredible GPU's and CPU's yet the software cost for developing games that make full use of this tech is astronomical, now of course there are outliers to this.
>>337358996
Sonyggers always like to play the victim after shitposting sprees.
It's pretty funny honestly.
>>337358838
and the same thing didn't happen around splatoon's launch?
Every fanbase is as bad as eachother anon, grow the fuck up
>>337358826
Crysis ran on my Antlon, 512MB and 7700GT
Fuck your shit, game was written by gods of optimization.
>>337352208
Sonyggers on suicide watch
>>337358090
kill yourself
>>337358996
dont forget
>its fun!
>it looks great for a console game!
>>337358709
>dat guardrail
All the focus seems to be on nature, which is a good thing, don't get me wrong, but it's always the man-made stuff that looks shitty and out of place.
ps4 wins again
>>337358724
>Playing to minimum requirements ever
this never actually works unless you like 15fps
>>337359109
>and the same thing didn't happen around splatoon's launch?
Nintoddlers only flung shit at Sonyggers, who deserve it, not everyone else.
Again, Sonyggers fling shit at EVERYONE, so don't act like a little bitch when everyone starts flinging shit back.
Own up faggot, you get what you deserve.
>>337359046
>better optimized
This is factually incorrect. Please don't comment about things you have zero understanding over.
>>337350006
>>337350152
terrible AA
it has good coverage and gets rid of the aliasing, but that vaseline look is just not worth it.
>>337349309
AI will NEVER improve, developers can just use tricks to railroad it into not making mistakes.
>>337359016
Devs know that they don't have to make good games anymore.
>>337358623
>Corrine Yu
They fired her and a bunch of people then kept it quiet. No one found it till a year later when she was working for Amazon since November 2014.
>big budget console exclusive, thats why
That's no excuse since Digital Foundry had no problem doing it before. Being ignorant of the fact the game is using baked over real time lighting, AO is non existent and the AF implementation is complete shit means they feared backlash.
>>337359220
https://mmos.com/review/monster-hunter-online
Recommended Requirements:
Operating System: Windows 7 / 8 / 8.1 / 10
CPU: Intel Core i3 2.4 GHz / AMD Phenom II X4 970
Video Card: GeForce GTX 760 / Radeon 7950 or better
RAM: 4 GB
Hard Disk Space: 15 GB
Still a toaster
>>337359274
what the fuck is this bullshit.
you can't be serious, I'm genuinely laughing at this
>>337358878
>my e-peen is better than yours
Can't buy taste anon. Thanks for showing me how much you don't care. You really come off as someone uninterested in contrary opinions. Again, The Order sounds right up your alley.
>>337349753
>implying the US Army has money
>>337350536
hahahh pleb
>>337356373
>PC
>Gameplay
>Sony DVD Player 4
>movie with gameplay elements
Sony is the king of DVD players
>>337359063
DX10-11 was CRAP for fully utilizing current hardware anyway.
DX11 still is mainly single threaded at least from the CPU side of things
Vulkan and DX12 will help alot but we are still GPU bottlenecked
Hence why the Fury X and Ti/Titan cant pull off 4k @60fps+ yet
We're not going to see any meaningful leaps until we DX12+ goes full mainstream with the power to back it up so many 2018-2019 when it fully matures
DX12 is only a year old
>>337359275
ok go play Crysis 3 at 4k and get back to me
>>337349570
Hey bro.
Nice washed out, static scene that's really a well disguised linear corridor.
Let me show you what you can do on PC.
With an open world map.
Dynamic weather and time of day.
And destructability as well.
>>337358407
this guy gets it
good graphics should no longer equal hyper-realistic. Instead of trying to run super-computers that make leaves look like they do outside my window, be creative and have an original style
>>337359456
anon pls
I'm not interested in the order.
But uncharted is great, you should try it.
then maybe you could actually make some comments having played it instead of just shitposting
>>337359541
DX11 still is mainly single threaded at least from the CPU side of things
ahh, you see it was though that it's programmers job to utilize threads not the APis.
>>337356896
Not worry frends. Tonk is protect flank.
>>337358062
>ARMA3 is shitty
Well I guess when you are 12 and autistic Uncharted would be a perfect choice.LAN parties in which you play a scenario you made with a dozen friends on a de facto military grade simulator (VBS) cannot be compared to any PS4 exclusives. Red Dead Redemption is the only game that I mourned for. Guess what fag, my friend gave me the PS3 and I completed it,enjoyed it and put it aside forever. I really cannot comprehend how you console retards always,ALWAYS pick fucking fights that you cannot win with us,this being about graphics. Are you retarded?
>>337359546
UC4 is mostly pre-baked, it doesn't even have any real-time AO.
Even the Digital Foundry video that sonyggers used to shitpost with talked about the pre-baked stuff like global illumination.
>>337359702
funnily enough the latest versions of alot of current gen dx11 games are multi threaded like Rainbow Six Siege and the latest asscreed
Even GTA 5 sees a 50% fps jump going from 4 threads to 8+
>>337349570
what damage control?
unchareted 4 got 3 times downgraded and now looks like every other AAA game in terms of visual quality
>>337358409
No, not really.
I ran the game at 1080p60 on my old 7870.
Monster Hunter Online is actually pretty well-optimized.
Pic related.
>>337359580
Consoles are designed around graphics first and foremost. It's what the consumer wants and is easy to market. Things like AI are shoved off to the side because they don't look 'cool'. This will get worse, not better.
For an example of a great and original style, TF2 fits the bill perfectly. Regardless of the current state of the game part of the reason it has been popular for so long is its art design.
>>337359390
Damn, she left in 2014?
I really wonder what the fuck happened.
And DF wants the neogaf audience, they almost never shit on PS4 exclusives. They'll nitpick everything else though.
Are Uncharted games similar gameplay wise to those new Tomb Raider games?
>>337359740
>>337359738
not the same person your both talking to but why is arma 3 still single threaded?
Laziest fucking devs ever 4+ years in development and still nothing.
Thats what you get for using a shit engine from 2001
>>337359908
Their going backwards if anything
There are some gems though
>>337352959
The only reason to get anything better than an I5-6400 is if you do heavy rendering work
>>337359940
Uncharted 1-2 was exactly the same as Tomb Raider 2013
Their ok games but only good for eyecandy
>>337359894
>Consoles are designed around graphics first and foremost.
It was
then sony and ms went with a sub 2tflops design. Its pretty clear that they care more about how to monetize everything then putting out high powered machines that can push cutting edge graphics.
UC4 barely looks better then the PS3 UCs at a lot of parts. Its almost like they hired that fake factory guy to add bushes and foliage to UC3.
>>337359940
Yes
>>337359634
Beat 2, was unimpressed but persevered until the end. Never got better. Played 3 for 20 minutes or so at a friend's house, never wanted to touch the series again. What innovations in gameplay has 4 made? How is it different mechanically from 2 and 3? Have you played The Order?
Also
>I don't give a fuck if you don't like it
Why are you still replying?
>>337359908
>using that promo bullshot of crysis that looks nothing like the real game
>>337360295
Your right the real crysis looks better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mW5odWok2k
>>337359956
Because they are supposedly working on new content for it and are focusing on their upcoming titles. That is a shitty fucking excuse m8. I downloaded Iron Front for ARMA3 two weeks ago,shit is fucking cash. Recommend it to you too if you and your buddies are history buffs/WW2 era enthusiasts. The biggest problem ARMA 3 has is the fact that the playerbase has changed,a lot. Operation Flashpoint and ARMA stood on the shoulders of the community,modders in particular. I will not even begin to comment on the travesties that Dragon Rising/Red River were.
I loooooove when a Uncharted game comes out even though I don't play them..
Threads like this one are better and more entertaining than most games out there.
>>337360203
>Why are you still replying?
why are you anon?
In a nutshell, the areas you fight in are much bigger and much more complex, enemy ai is much better than before, there is actual exploration in large environments with lots of secrets and side areas, puzzles are actual puzzles and not just 'look in the journal to be told the answer', the platforming sections are better and less linear, etc.
I agree uncharted 2 and 3 were slightly above average at best, but uncharted 4 is great. It's not a world beating masterpiece like some other anons are saying though.
>>337360446
i used to have a friend that played it and actually have iron front somewhere
probably lost it now and dont have any friends
When i get a new build ill try it out though thanks
have a titan x sli 4k crysis run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQhuvpzRqO4
>>337359956
I believe they are updating, to dx12 with the release of the new island.
Don't know how much it will help performance though.
I have a lot of hours in game, however I will happily admit that the performance is pretty damn bad.
As soon as you start combat in an urban area, with any sort of large scale force...frames drop out of the ass.
>>337353325
You forgot to add "modded" in your post
>>337359580
There's nothing wrong with good graphics and they should be strived towards, but you should try and do good work with them too instead of just bruteforcing good aesthetics
something like bloodborne looks great(probably I haven't actually played it because I don't own a console) because from actually has competent artists who can design things which are just fun to look at
I'm not necessarily talking about making the world fit some weird style like in TF2, just making the realistically proportioned objects look good in themselves instead of doing lazy, uncreative designs
>>337360367
>leaf transparency is completely gone
>lighting is butchered
>texture looks like from a PS2 game
>needs a 6 million dollar machine to run
>>337359932
>I really wonder what the fuck happened.
Someone posted on Neogaf that she was on the way out of 343i because she was incompetent, didn't do as much as she said on Halo 4 and she left 343 before Microsoft got the chance to fire her. Naughty Dog picked her up as programming lead and made a massive fuss about it which had neogaf singing their praises again. And she encouraged the "1080P 60FPS" chanting. Shocking when she was fired just before they showed the first demo at 30FPS.
Mods banned the person who leaked it of course while accusing people of "Sabotage". And then it turned out to be true. No wonder there's less "Insiders" on neogaf these days.
UC4 just sounds like Underpowered Console and Overpromising developers.
>>337355050
You can probably play Crysis maxed at in a fucking current integrated GPU.
lmao and even then at 1080 45-55 steady fps with no PS4 tier drops.
>>337360613
>large environements
>enemy ai is much better
>puzzles
>platforming less linear
this is sad. fuckin stockholm syndrome
>>337349094
>top
>ingame screenshot, max settings
>bottom
>screenshot of a compressed youtube video
I'm all in favor of moving along graphics and shifting the focus towards PC too however that picture is shit
>>337360693
No its not the first level always ALWAYS looks like shit because of the time of day at the start
once you sit in it for a while it looks alot better
>>337360639
lol i remember back when i had a absolute beast of a pc back in 2013 and the beta i had a 290 4gb oc and a i7 920 @3.5ghz and i barely got 30fps anywhere
Shit was fucked, uninstalled and sold that pc out and downgraded till the tech got better
Stuck on a i5 4690 and gtx 770 waiting for zen and vega
most boring 3 years of my life
>>337360696
This wouldn't surprise me
It was kinda weird when 343 announced they hired her like it was some big deal. Never heard of her before and its not like the games she worked on were amazing graphical achievements.
>>337360740
yep, but the
>crysis needs $1000s of dollars to run!!!
meme will never die, even though the game is nearly a decade old now.
>>337349309
A remember a dev interview where they implement AI with some really good adaptive behavior into their FPS. The enemy units would flank, dodge grenades or toss them back, provide cover fire for other units.
They received a lot of complaints when they play tested the games.
AI will never improve as long as vidya targets the mainstream audience. They're too stupid.
>>337355297
>Barely looks better than HL2
>>337353794
go outside
ever
>>337360613
But it's still a shitty cover-based shooter right? With enemies that survive multiple gunshots to the head? Scripted events that take you from setpiece to setpiece? QTEs out the ass? "Platforming" consisting of hold forward + X? What about innovations in gameplay, not slightly bigger rooms? Mechanics? What is the most difficult puzzle you came across?
Everything I have seen about this game looks like rehashed shit. Do you really think minor changes in scope are equal to innovative gameplay and mechanics?
>>337356589
>Half Life 1
>AI
>>337354254
It's "sieve".
>>337361048
lol what a liar
you can run crysis easily maxed with a 6870
>>337361095
>Cinematic Mod
POST THE GRASS SCREEN OR FUCKED UP ALYX ALREADY
>>337350536
what game
please don't say randomly generated roguelite
>>337361292
LOOK AT THE FUCKING VIDEO IT CAN BARELY GET 60FPS AT 1080P YOU KEKSUCKING FUCKTARD
>>337361397
>the alyx labia screen
Shit makes me laugh everytime I think about it
>>337354654
Damn.. looks worse than Demon souls
>>337353463
>tfw the only arma 3 servers are dayz without the zombies
i'm talking aboutaltis life
>>337361292
He's talking about Arma 3 m8.
>>337361048
Yeah, I'm debating getting a new gen Nvidia card when they release.
I hope in vain for the day, I can run Arma at decent frames for an entire mission.
The Alpha/Beta was particularly bad as I recall, as far as performance goes anyway. The word slideshow comes to mind.
>>337355458
Sonic Generations moves much faster and looks better than this >>337354993
>30usd+ for a fucking island
https://store.bistudio.com/products/arma3-apex
Seriously?
Fuck Bohemia.
Totally fucked over the early access backers fucking cunts cant wait to pirate this shit
>>337361256
It still has the old uc1-3 2 shots in the head to kill
used to be pretty easy to pull off i remember when alot of games had bullet sponges around early 2000's but thats how old uncharted feels
shame the new tomb raider is actually a better game but its under rated
>>337349094
>reach realistic graphic
>forget about performance and optimization issue
>barely enough for 160fps VR
we coming all way with brute force of hardware instead better programming, everything is stalled because uncle console need to make money from stalling technology
stealth Arma 3 thread?
>>337361675
You are better off getting an i7 CPU. Arma is insanely CPU heavy
>>337361748
I think it comes with some new campaign. I don't even think they finished the base game's campaign though.
>>337361397
She's a nigger so you can't really do much about her
>>337361082
>AI
>yfw 6 year old slav game with the budget of an addidas tracksuit, 2 sausages and a can of tourist's delight fucks all over current vidya
>will cover fire
>flank
>a-life memes
>measure risk on the fly
>adapt to player
>squat
>group up
>understand how to use their gun
>real cover, not that meme whack a mole shit
>realtime gear and skill improvement with inventory
>unique names no copy pasted faceless npcs
>>337349570
>when a very high budget AAA game in 2016 looks worse than a game from 2007
Thanks consoles
>>337360660
Something that consoles cant do.
>>337357458
It WAS actually the case dumbass, GTA 4 had the most impressive technical graphics for an open world when it came out.
>>337361675
>Yeah, I'm debating getting a new gen Nvidia card when they release.
dont ive been following them very closely
Basically their 980ti OC level performance out of the box with better async support.
Can run Vulkan fine but gets raped in DX12 still stay away till they iron the kinks out in Volta 2017-2018
Go AMD, they've had the tech edge since 2012 and Vega 10 will be fucking mega
Basically Fury X Performance for 3/4 or 1/2 the price with 8gb hm2 and maybe even a performance boost because of new GCN arch
Apparently drops in Oct so just wait bro its painful but trust me
>>337361845
>I think it comes with some new campaign. I don't even think they finished the base game's campaign though.
NOPE
Fuck that.
How was it that OFP and Arma where so good and 2-3 fucked everything up?
Nigger should have stayed in that greek jail desu
>>337359341
What kind of stupid opinion is that?
>>337361256
>But it's still a shitty cover-based shooter right?
no it's a pretty good cover based shooter
the only enemies that survive headshots are heavily armoured brutes, they die to headshots once you shoot their helmets off
scriped events aren't that common, there are maybe 15 set pieces in the game, none are longer than 2 minutes. So you spend roughly 20 minutes of a 13 hour game in set pieces.
The only QTEs I can think of are one or two fight scenes, unless your counting stuff like 'press triangle to boost your partner to progress' stuff
the platforming has rope swinging now and you get a pinion thing later in the game for more freeform platforming instead of only on pre-defined ledges
>>337356224
Why does every screenshot of Uncharted 4 look blurry white?
>>337361967
that game can barely get to 60fps on a $500 card though
Even a titan struggles to get 60fps at 2560x1440
Crysis 3 is still unplayable at 4k with SLI fucking titans
I hope DX12 will pull a Mantle and at least get us to 60-100fps like it did with BF4 back in the day that shit was magical manye
>>337362237
lighting engine got gutted
same thing happens in Global ilum physically based lighting engines when you turn the settings down basically the lighting quality drops out the ass.
Even Rainbow Six Siege looks better
>>337353463
Not anymore it isn't.
goo dot gl/ryY9tL
>>337362229
>the only enemies that survive headshots are heavily armoured brutes, they die to headshots once you shoot their helmets off
fucking bullshit, they can still take plenty of shots to the head without helmets.
They can already take an direct RPG shot and a grenade.
Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?
>>337361434
TOME
>>337361748
>30usd+ for a fucking island
it's because they are adding in a ton of features from the military version of the game.
they do this to have fewer full game releases to keep the playerbase together and still put out major updates and improvements.
whereas EA/activision will release a full title twice a year and $60-$140 of DLC on top.
and thats the main difference between pc and console. the console is a low to middle performance pc which is a locked in system, and for that discount on hardware you have to pay an extra $10 royalty ontop of every game.
>>337360639
They said DX12 isn't coming with the expansion, as it barely has any performance gains.
I guess it comes in as no surprise when the rest of the engine is trash.
>>337355942
M-m-my ps4 i-i-s sh-hit b-b-but at l-least it i-isn't w-worse than t-the o-other consoles
>>337361884
>Budget 2D side game
>More of a marketing tool than a serious project
>Had far better AI than most games even today
It's weird how things work
>>337362486
it would be boring as fuck if you could instagib any enemy at all with a headshot. I know it's not realistic but its a way to increase enemy variety and difficulty without just throwing more doods at you.
gameplay > realism
>>337362524
oh sweet as i said i basically havent followed the game in almost 4 years.
Thats pretty sweet.
oh well come early 2017 i should have a beast built
>>337350643
The game looks exactly the same.
And the framerate is constant.
>>337360893
The image was posted by a sonydrone an hour before, here's some copy of the image and is not youtube video is PS4 screenshot
>>337358069
MGSV would have been better as a ps2 game.
>>337361883
>make her white
>improvement
Yeah, there's some nice niggas but alyx is low tier.
>>337363258
>Brazilian
>white
>>337362908
except it was clear that so many are bulletsponges because the ai are dogshit. The only difficulty comes from their placement.
>>337358069
>>337363131
>hurrr what is falseflagging
>>337362246
128 dollaricos GPU is giving
1920x1080 at 60 MORE GRAPHICS MODS HD 1 Link Mega 100% real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XHjUWztgzs
>>337361845
I have an i7 3770 3.4ghz at the moment, got it from a friend who was moving away. You are right though, I could do with upgrading it to be honest.
>>337362098
hmm interesting. Will do some more in depth research into both options then, cheers.
My only worry, was the supposed ganking of games in favour of Nvidia, deliberately fucking up AMD performance.
>>337362653
Doesn't surprise me, bloody hell! Cheers for updating me anyway, was not aware.
>>337363447
>hmm interesting. Will do some more in depth research into both options then, cheers.
while we're on the subject if you absolutely must make a new build soon like i am going to do get a basic 2011v3 for like a grand then WAIT for vega10
Honestly games favoring nvidia is a load of shit.
i tested it and all the games that 'favor' nvidia are cpu bottlenecked.
The only really suss game is Witcher 3 which is a turd anyway so who cares, oh and arkham city
>>337352874
ARMA actually needs maps that size to do what it does. With realistic ballistics, vehicle and weapon characteristics, you'll find most engagements occur in the 200-400m range, and shit like tanks and choppers will easily be able to wreck your shit at >1000m. Even the biggest of Battlefield maps aren't big enough to set up good ops for ARMA.
>>337362384
No... it looks terrible. it shouldn't be like someone turned the brightness up a little too much.
Its another arma3 runs like shit on my computer thread
Have you faggots even enabled arma3 to use more than 2cores
>>337349094
If games were still pictures you'd kind of have a point, but animations of the game on the bottom are much improved over the game on top
>>337363373
what the fuck are you talking about? Uncharted 1?
You never face more than 2 brutes at once, a few headshots knock the helmets off, then you can melee them or finish them off with a final headshot. All the normal enemies die to a single headshot with even the pistol.
the areas you fight in are big and the enemies are constantly moving so their placement at the start of the fight is irrelevant and they're always trying get a better angle on you instead of just sitting behind cover and popping at you like in previous games.
I played at one level below hardest, maybe all the enemies turn into super bulletsponges on crushing mode, I don't know.
>>337363717
i still have vivid memories of insane firefights in woods and deserts in arma and ofp
fuck cant the new hardware just hurry the FUCK up im sick of waiting for shit that never comes
>mfw october is 4 months away and Zen is even further
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>337363737
Patch 3.1 siege looks great boss go try it
>Not owning the best MP Tactical FPS since swat2
>>337362908
Yes, the game is packed with tension when you can get shot several times and suffer no penalty while tediously plinking away at enemies that take multiple headshots to kill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPXdxipSlCw
>9:00-11:40
linear as fuck, retarded AI, weak shooting and cover mechanics, level designed for you to go through it one way with just the right obstacle for every attack.
Count how many time he gets shot in that short clip. He jumps up and runs through machine gun fire. Also has at least one QTE. Enjoy it if you want but this is shitty everything. Also
>60fps
lel
>>337363906
Are you fucking deluded? Siege doesn't look like this at all. Read my post instead of trying to fucking defend it blindly.
>>337362503
...it's a randomly generated roguelite.
One thing that confuses me, they say it's free and open source, you can download it from their page, yet steam charges money for it, how does that work?
>>337363906
>best MP Tactical FPS since swat2
I've already got Insurgency.
>>337363896
Bullshit. See>>337363912
>shoot enemy multiple times with assault rifle
>have to kick him in the chest to finish him off
>he stops shooting and lets you do this
>>337363912
>posts a scripted demo from 2014
??
are you even trying?
that area in the final game is completely different
>>337353771
If it's BSOD, it will be more relevant
>>337364019
???
Unless you own the game you cant talk shit about it.
the old videos with the old lighting look like ass, a patch literally just came out today that makes it look 100x better
>>337361989
>he admits the screenshot is modded which completely invalidates the argument of crysis looking better
>>337362664
that's the main thing right?
>>337364095
Bullshit. See>>337364120
>>337363646
I'm not in any particular rush to rebuild. But I will keep an eye on the parts you have recommended.
Thanks anon.
>>337364120
Post video
>>337364073
as do i
Its still better.
Try it
This thread is more about PS4 v PC than anything else. Does that mean other consoles are no longer relevant?
>>337364270
I'm not the other poster anon. I have played Siege. Insurgency is better.
>>337354121
Funny that in the very same video you took that shitposting screenshot from they say slowdowns are very much the exception and that the game for the vast majority of the time has a consistent 30fps
That section has a large water simulation and explosions at the same time
Why PC gets no exclusives like console do? It is not fair, we are master race.
(imagine that fat fedora wearing neckbeard pic in this post)
>>337364302
>Xbone
>Wii U
>ever relevant
>>337364172
What the fuck is wrong with you? The screen shots are right there, you've been posting them to show "WOWW LOOK HOW AMAZING UNCHARTED™ IS". Fucking worshiping a bunch of fucking video game developers, jesus hell.
>>337364302
>no longer
They never were.
>>337349094
I think so. We're at a point of serious diminishing returns. Unless you're doing side-by-side comparisons you really just can't tell how much closer to photorealism one game is to another, unless you're just autistic.
But, it's not like photorealistic graphics should be a huge selling point. I've yet to play a GRAFIX-heavy (something on the level of vanilla Crysis) that was actually better/funner/more entertaining than a lot of pre-2005 games. As far as I can tell graphics are only there to sell to normies, dudebros and platform war cocksuckers.
>>337364240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXMskKTw3Bc
>>337357243
What is exactly a "chinese toaster"?
>>337363912
>he can climb many things
>but he can't
>>337364239
No worries mate i am not sure what vega10 will be called but i am guessing a 490x or something like Fury with more X's on it or something ???
Polaris in june was only meant to be midrange anyway so its around 390x performance or fury maybe>>337364395
To be fair what do we miss out on?
>Movie games
>Shitty TPS and FPS games that are restricted by shitty cpu and gpu tech from 2012
>Gamepad centric gameplay
Nah we're really not missing out on much if you think about it.
>>337364240
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmR-HKi5cI
skip to 19:00
He plays with the casual marking system though, I turned it off in the options.
>>337363906
Casual shooters like BF4, csgo, and siege might be easier to get into, but they've got absolutely nothing on how intense firefights get in ARMA and/or DayZ. Squad might be able to do it, but ARMA is king of the PTSD simulator genre.
>>337364395
There is no company particularly invested in the success of PC as a game platform by pushing for or funding the creation of exclusives, or anything else of that nature.
>>337364590
cyber cafe pc.
>>337362501
>Ubisoft
What a surprise
>>337364218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxaw6CqVMss
6:17:45 and on
AI is even worse.
>get lit up point blank by several rifles
>kill them with pistol
>run and jump in front of enemy
>no one sees
>standing around and walking back and forth = AI
>enemies stop what they're doing when you partake in scripted event
shit game
>>337364469
>As far as I can tell graphics are only there to sell to normies, dudebros and platform war cocksuckers.
how though considering most console games this gen still cant catchup to crysis 07
They just seem to buy games reguardless
>>337364743
i didnt mind dayz when it was arma2 mod but if i get a beast going ill try it again.
Insurgency was ok but the source engine made it feel alot older than it should have felt.
Even OFP still feels better
>>337364758
specs, nigger, specs.
>>337364864
So are you telling me that video footage is from a videogame? Woah...
>>337364705
>Movie games
>Shitty TPS and FPS games that are restricted by shitty cpu and gpu tech from 2012
Yeah, that's what you're missing now with Uncharted 4, but what of stuff like Ace Combat 7, Gravity Rush 2, NieR Automata, etc. in the future?
>>337364918
what i'm going to know there's not standard for cyber cafe computers
>>337364864
that game is NOT running at 30fps even remotely smoothly
the frametimes are fucked and the downgrade from the e3 2014 demo is so evident its laughable.
>Camera jitters
>frametimes +100ms
>Looks worse than vanilla crysis and barely better than Uncharted 1
LOL look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZc0-K7wOSs
at least the remaster runs at 60fps and its actually nicer and the grass casts shadows LOL
>>337360295
There is simply NOTHING that tickles this game technically at this moment, whatever the platform.
It's drop dead gorgeous, I'm in awe every time I play this game
>>337364864
DELETE THIS!!!
SONY PROMISE US A 10/10 GAME WITH THE BETTER AI EVER!
PLEASE STOP #ps4shaming
PC friends' favorite hobby is to get triggered by games on /v/? Especially those they can't play?
Bloodborne has been golden facing ever since it's leak, an year and a half ago. And it'll keep collecting hurt butts for a looong time, even after DaS3's release there are still people pent up about Bloodborne. Not one BB thread goes by without a flood of PC shitposts.
Uncharted4 get more attention from PCucks than it does from PS4 owners than won't buy it (and perhaps even more attention than from those who DO want to play the game). The PC side gets instantly triggered, clicks on every uncharted4 thread possible (or makes them, like this one) and posts Arma/Witcher screenshots to feel better about themselves.
PS4 folk who don't care about the game and won't buy it simply ignore it and go back to whatever they are playing or talking about.
PC friends REALLY, and I mean REALLY have a hate-boner for Uncharted, huh?
Let it go brehs, no will will steal your superior graphics and kickstarter games from you. No need to worry.
>>337364326
Eh idk the guns in insurgency and the player movement just sucks.
it feels too much like csgo/css
>>337365119
So what ill just get a PS4 Neo for like $50 in 2020 with 5 gorillion games
>>337364058
open source does not mean free. It means the source code is available for anyone.
>>337365408
Stay jelly, my falseflagger friend ;^)
If I showed my little brother a picture of U4 and Amra 3 she would say Uncharted looks better.
The only opinions that matter are that of retards with money or access to their parents' wallets.
Arguing semantics won't change the "DIS SHIT LOOK FIRE" attitude of normies and journalists.
>>337365461
>all this irony in this post
kek
butthurt Sonyggertears are the most delicious
>>337365931
whoopty do when i was your bros age i was building gaming pc's back in 2007 and ran crysis maxxed on a absolute beast in 2009 i7 920 6gb and 285gtx
>>337349309
When a game has state-of-the-art AI, people call it too hard and don't play it.
>>337365753
YES STAY JELLY MY FALSEFLAGGER FRIEND
>>337355297
that mercury spill on the floor
>>337365154
Then how do you know if they are low or high tier specs? How is that a qualifying statement in an argument?
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