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Things Uncharted 4 did objectively better than MGSV: Gameplay
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Things Uncharted 4 did objectively better than MGSV:

Gameplay
Story
Graphics
Stealth
Multiplayer
Soundtrack
Enemy AI

Kojima actually had more development time than ND, how did he his game end up being so much worse than Uncharted 4?
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>>337346219
>objectively

>graphics
>stealth
>gameplay

Cmon now anon, even you know thats not true.
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>>337346219
MGSV achieved almost the same graphic quality but with 60 fps in every current-gen console, so no
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you forgot emotional
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>>337346219
He tried to turn a series that wasn't "open world" to open world. IT's like what happened with the original raiden game. They didn't know what they wanted to make in the end, except they actually released mgsv.

Uncharted did what it always does and kept a straight forward pace with amazing set pieces while upping the detail factor.
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>>337346219
Shut up and eat you're meatball, frank!
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>>337346468
>almost the same graphic quality
I dunno bub
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Marketing.
MGSV would have sell millions with half of ND's budget.
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gameplay, stealth, soundtrack, multiplayer and enemy ai are all far better in MGSV

Uncharted 4's soundtrack is the least interesting of it's entire series. The gameplay doesn't evolve, and feels outdated, the stealth is pitiful, the multiplayer is even more tacked on than mgs and the enemy ai is retarded.

You only have to look at uncharted 4's "boss" to see an example of every facet of bad game design that's lingering over like damp turd from seventh gen.
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>>337346219
To limit my time on 4chan I only post while I'm taking a shit now. Feels good to shitpost while shitting 2bh
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>>337347496
>Mgs5 wasn't marketed out the butthole
Kek
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>>337347670
Srs u should try this it's like a double release lol. Its spiritually cathartic
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>>337346219
I like the vertical stealth gameplay that Uncharted 4 offers than MGSV.

I mean how many actual cliffs you can climb in MGSV? and all of them are just used to find resources.

Right now, I'm playing it mad, like Vanquish, running around crazy gunning people, sliding and jumping, then punching people in the dick, makes me feel like a bad-ass Big Boss than in MGSV
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>Gameplay
No
>Story
Yes
>Graphics
Don't make me laugh
>Stealth
Don't make me laugh
>Multiplayer
Subjective
>Soundtrack
Subjective
>Enemy AI
No
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Holy fuck, the Sonyggers are out in force today.
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>>337346219
>Uncharted
>gameplay is good

You're playing a movie that once in a while adds awful shooting mechanics that adds absolutely nothing to the "game".
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>>337346527
Fuck off. How's that for emotional?
It's a damn fine game. It is far and away the best console game from a technical standpoint. On top of that the game is actually good. So again you can fuck right off.
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>>337347437
>sonyggers consider this mindblowing

KEK
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>>337348510
>qtes and token set pieces are what good games are made of now
lmao

my bad, I'll fuck right off then, lmao
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Things Uncharted 4 did well:
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>>337348510
>It is far and away the best console game from a technical standpoint
>4xAF
>best

back to neofag
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>>337348151
>>337346359

Are you 2 seriously trying to say MGSV has good stealth? I've played both, Uncharted 4 is a better stealth game and only half the fights encourage stealth. MGSV is a complete trash stealth game. Makes missions take 3-5 times longer and the only benefit you get is staff who go off and fucking die in the end anyway. You can still get S ranking while running around slaughtering everyone. At least Uncharted has a punishment for going Rambo (double the enemies show up).

Like I think Uncharted is an 8/10, but it's objectively a better stealth game than MGSV.
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>>337348671
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>>337348706
>At least Uncharted has a punishment for going Rambo (double the enemies show up).

So does MGSV ya fuckwit.
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>>337348151
>>Graphics
>Don't make me laugh
Confirmed for haven't played it. UC4 has the best graphics of any game out right now besides maybe kingdom come deliverance, and this is coming from a guy with an Nvidia 970 and the latest AAA games. Unless you're playing at 1440p or higher, Uncharted has objectively beat you.
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>>337348706
>At least Uncharted has a punishment for going Rambo (double the enemies show up).
Yeah, I guess you could consider that a punishment because Uncharted's shooting mechanics are so shitty that you don't actually want to use them.
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>>337347496
>MGSV had no budget or marketing

Anon...
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>>337347624
Somebody is hurt. I love MGSV. How did MGSV evolve? Why does it get a pass for recycling the same material over and over again? It falls in the same category as A Thief's End according to your own examples.
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>>337348796
>>337348469
don't try to criticise games you've never played
you just end up looking silly
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>>337348789
>UC4 has the best graphics of any game out right now

Why are sonyggers so delusional?
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>>337348796
>I've never played the game please rape my face
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>>337346219

Well I could never get into this series because of how shit the main character is. So I'll take MGS5.
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>>337346219
>soundtrack

>no licensed 80s music or WOOOOAAAAAAAHH
yeah okay
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>>337348785

No, a helicopter or humvee comes in and drops off 3 or 4 more soldiers. Uncharted literally doubles them (from 10 to 20). It's more than a bit more punishing than MGSV.

>>337348796

Exactly.

I'm not arguing that MGSV's gunplay is less fun, it clearly isn't. But MGSV is just a shitty stealth game. Almost feels like it's on purpose so you spend more time playing around with the guns. You don't even get the vehicle fulton required to beat a few of the missions on stealth until later in the game.
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>>337348902
Well, come on now.
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>>337348671
I'm right, and you are wrong. This isn't a subjective matter in the least. A Thief's End is the best game on consoles from a technical standpoint, unless we suddenly can't use Digital Foundry as an empirical evidence source. In that case you are just a stupid piece of shit. Give this a watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts2am8WRBXQ
I predict that your next post will be that A Thief's End is just a stupid movie anyway so who cares?
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>>337349156
>bullshot
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>>337349381
That section wasn't in any of the advertisements get out
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>>337349381
Well, GIDDY UP now.
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>>337349381
That is a fucking screenshot from the PS4 you moron. Jesus. When people on /v/ want to hate something there is no stopping the mental gymnastics that have to take. Have fun being a clueless fucking moron.
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>>337348887
>Y-YOU JUST DIN'T PLAY THE GAME!
The enemy placements are boring and predictable and the shoot outs merely waste time that could be used actually exploring the well made set pieces.
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>>337349381
>b-bullshots!
>The game doesn't really look like that!!1!

okay
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>>337349459
>>337349509
>>337349684
>bullshot
prove me wrong.
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>>337346359
>>337346468
>>337347153
>>337348151
>>337348469
>>337348660
>>337348796
>>337348785

I hate OP, and I hope he his dick gets castrated.

But let's not kid ourselves. Unchanted 4 is objectively better than the MGS: PP.

For starters: Uncharted 4 is a finished game. Hideo really fucked that one.


I wish my favorite series was better, or even the best game but it's not and telling ourselves otherwise is fanboy delusion.
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>>337349381

>It's a bullshot from the surprise ending of the game

Your face when that's not true
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>>337349703
anon pls
you're fooling nobody
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>>337349853
I'm gonna need source on that webm.
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>>337349761
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>>337349757
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>>337349761
Here you are (Screen Tearing caused by capture device):

https://youtu.be/jKagShNJFhs?t=589
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A lot of crap in UC4 is pre-baked, even the digital foundry video that sonyggers used to shitpost talked about this.
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>>337349370
>This isn't a subjective matter in the least.
>A Thief's End is the best game on consoles from a technical standpoint
>4x AF at most
>ITS DA BEST EVER!!!!!!

LOL

Just lol

>digital foundry

Neofag loves them for a reason. They barely contain their bias.
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>>337349757

Is this supposed to be impressive?
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>>337349870
I'm fooling you.

You think I haven't played an Uncharted game, while owning a ps3.

That's virtually impossible.
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Uncharted is a generic action game to pander to random dudebros or literal children, it's not that good of a game in general.
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>>337349979
No, you don't.
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>>337350127
>x4 AF makes a game less fun
lol

the difference between x4 and x16 AF is barely noticable anyway
see >>337348765

and uncharted takes place in organic landscapes with almost no flat surfaces to even notice the AF.
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>>337349370

A Thief's End is just a stupid movie anyway so who cares?

HUH?!?!
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>>337349757
The environment art looks incredible, Even if it isin't 100% photorealistic.
It's a shame it's still fucking incredibly hard to get human characters looking realistic still.

The moment they popped on screen i thought they were clay dolls or something.
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>>337350216
>I-I'm not impressed. F-fuck off sonygger
No need to hide your tears
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>>337347727
>>337348798
Literally the only place I've ever seen people talk about MGSV was here. I don't watch TV much anymore, did they just spam TV commercials or something?
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>english dub
"What do I look like?"
"Like 400 million dollars."
>italian dub
"What do I look like?"
"Like a classy faggot."

LOL
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>>337350551
The MGS fan's did most of the marketing for it. It was pretty much a bunch of manbabies saying "This will be the best game in the past 20 years." or "This game will define the genre."

Pretty much like here, except they show their faces.
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>>337347496
And you thought all those 10/10's uncharted 4 got was because it was such a good game.
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>>337350337
>its fun

So you've just dropped the whole "its the best technical ever!" line

And 4x af is the max in game. Lots of ground texture in game look blurry because of it.
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>>337350537

the first level of crysis 2, when that game leaked in a half finished state, looked better
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>>337348706
It's just a floaty third person shooter.
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>>337350456
because almost everything is pre-baked, and even then many environment look like ass because of the shitty base lighting that aren't pre-baked. Like many outdoor areas and caves.

Not to mention the Cutscene uses pretty much a completely different lighting system and doesn't allow you to move the camera other than zooming in, because they literally culled everything not in scene COMPLETELY to improve the lighting artificially.
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>>337349797
I don't see myself playing Uncharted 4 for almost 500 hours.
Cinematic games will always be the capeshit of videogames.
Bottom of the barrel and forgettable.
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>>337350965
please anon, there is more than one person on 4chan.
I never said its the best technical achievement. There are probably only a few people who genuinely that too, and the rest are baiting.

It's a nice looking game, probably the best looking console game at the moment.

and it's really fun.
there's nothing you can post here that will stop it being fun anon.
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>>337350965
As someone who's played through the entire game, I didn't notice ANY blurry textures. Anisotropic Filtering at 4x Will make a flat surface essentially perfectly filtered at any point of view, and 8x only makes a difference with highly curved surfaces curving away from the camera.
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>>337351105
It is especially more jarring when there is no real-time AO all ALL.
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>>337351403
>Anisotropic Filtering at 4x Will make a flat surface essentially perfectly filtered at any point of view, and 8x only makes a difference with highly curved surfaces curving away from the camera.

Pure bullshit
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>>337351548
are you just conveniently ignoring the comparison posted above or are you genuinely retarded?
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>>337346219
did anyone else forget this commercial?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDH140dLq5M
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>>337351105
>Everything is pre-baked
>It actually looks bad
In what way is pre baked a bad thing? it makes the environments look super realistic like in >>337350103
Plus pre baked in UC4 isnt just "Flat lighting", the pre baking has set reflections for the environment, which can still be rotated for a realistic effect. If you want reflections that arent pre baked then go look at Watch Dogs, where the reflections are just random images of the city.
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>>337351548
And sonyggers are supposed to be the delusional ones...
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It's pretty fucking fun
The platforming is actually improved with new mechanics
The shooting feels top notch, it's weird to say, but I feel like its better than Max Payne 3 on PC
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>>337351686
>>337351969

4x AF is the max the game employes

>but you can't notice it in game XDD

Yeah, maybe if your blind

>8gb gddr ram powah
>dont bother to filter your textures right

lel
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PC cucks in denial that a $300 machine is able to produce better games than your Undertale.

Let's face it you're gtx660 aint doing shit.
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>>337352418
Those aren't flat surfaces and curve away from the camera?
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>>337352668
>it looks blurry because its slightly uneven
>its not shitty texture filtering!

kek
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>>337352418
goddamnit I've been running 16x AF ever since I bought a shitty gaymen laptop way back when to play Oblivion and it had no framerate impact, but consoles still can't do even 8x
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>>337350292
He thinks you haven't played A Thief's End. I think his assesment is correct.
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>>337352418
weird, the texture filtering works fine on my system
it's motion blur in your pic, retard
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>>337350965
Watch the fucking Digital Foundry video you stupid twat. I think it's funny that for the last couple years Digital Foundry was the end all place for getting your ammunition ready, but now they can't be trusted, because they are shills all of a sudden. Fuck off.
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>>337353435
Seriously. Why is it that consoles have so much trouble with AF, yet my ratty old core 2 duo laptop with integrated graphics could do 16x no problem.
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MGSV is actually a game though
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>>337352418
>4x AF is the max the game employes
wrong

it's the lowest it goes, and only when the game is under load
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>>337346219
I agree specially because Uncharted 4 is an exclusive while MGSV was also on lesser platforms.
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>>337346219
I watched an hour of this game and I didn't like what I saw

>linear platforming
>long drawn out cutscenes
>average gunplay
>long segments between combat

Maybe it's just not my type of game or the pacing in the first part of the game is extremely slow but I don't think I'd pick this over MGS V.
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