How could they fuck up the graphics this badly?
It's a game for armchair generals and not 12 year old anime loving neets
is that a screenshot of civilization revolution?
>>337344373
It's the next gen CIV 6 game
Why are you posting mobile shit on v
Good resolution, fairly detailed.
The only thing that seems to be the complaint by you guys is the artstyle. Looks fine to me.
>great advancements in technology
>plenty of tools available
>make cartoony shit to pander to casual gamers
I blame reddit due to them having shit hardware.
This looks fucking worse than Black and WHite
>>337344126
OP it's just stylized
get over it
They're making shit that your granpa could run on his pc bro.
Of course its going to look dated.
I don't own a tablet, but I'm seriously considering picking one up when Civ 6 comes out, being able to play it anywhere will be really comfy.
>>337344996
thats the problem. Everyone can see it has "better" graphics. The art direction is shit.
>>337347715
Looks good to me.
About to upgrade my rig for civ 5. I want huge maps. dont even care about 6, looks shit and beyond earth was simplified shit.
even if it looked good it will take them a few years and a couple DLCs before it's worth a look
stick to Civ 5/4 kids
>>337344126
Looks very bright and plasticy.
"we want the overwatch audience"
>>337348876
>About to upgrade my rig for civ 5
Dude, i play Civ5 on my Chrombook with a pentium CPU
>>337344126
>armchair generals
yeah... but no. there's nothing deep or meaningful about having backstabbing allies that will be destroyed like insects once they declare war on you and you spam all your units to their place
>>337344126
>port XCOM to iPad
>when they released BE they talked about wanting to get an audience who wouldn't play civ normally
It's all about somebody up high wanting to tap into that mobile market in the most retarded way possible - making a PC game look like a mobile game.
>>337344126
What annoys me is how it looks like Mobile shit and you KNOW they have a big budget because it's fucking Civ, so essentially, you are paying for a downgrade in every possible way, especially since there will be maybe like a tenth of the civs that were in V
>>337344996
The artstyle is pretty shit and doesn't really suit the tone of the game. Comparing the visuals of VI to the promo art made for it is grating as fuck. The OST probably won't go well with the visuals either.
>Complaining about Civilization looking like Civilization
>>337352593
>civilization revolution was my first and only civ game
>>337352593
but it doesn't
>in b4 pretending this is the natural evolution of IV's visuals
>>337352719
>>337353314
A better question to ask is whether or not the AI has improved.
>>337353908
I don't know but no.
>>337350793
What, on Strategic View? I find that rather nice, actually. I turn on strategic view for large battles and ending my turn late-game.
>>337354323
this, they've been promising "better ai" since before civ 4
the ai will demand stuff from you, never give you anything for free, they will stab you in the back after 5000 years of alliance, Ect
>>337344126
the game would be much better if it were based around little anime girls
first dawn of war 3 with a cartoony "down graded" artstyle. now civ 6.
could devs stop ruining my favorite franchises
>>337355123
But they gotta get that DOTA 2 audience in 3rd world countries that only play on toasters anon, how else can they have a game that has a competitive pvp player base that they can monetize for as little effort as possible?
Fucking DOTA 2 killed games
>>337355123
inspired by dota 2 and art direction copy and pasted from starcraft 2
its time to kill myself
>>337344126
It looks like civ 4. If only it played like it too then it would be amazing
>>337354493
No, not strategic view. The normal earth view or wtf it's called
Civilization games have been on a long downward decline ever since Civ 2. There have been cool features added in other installments. Strategic and luxury resources from 3 and 4 were good. But on average, the gameplay has gotten worse.
The name of the game is Civilization. The goal of the game should be to build cities, that's what civilization means. Thus, the game should reward you for building cities. More cities means more population, it means more troops, it means more GDP, more art, etc.
Civ 2 rewarded you for building cities. It was important that you build the cities in the right spot, and it was important that you develop the city properly, but if you do that right, it just rewarded you even further. Or, if you didn't want to rush settlers, you could conquer your enemies and after things stabilized that only made your own civilization all the more powerful. Painting the map was FUN.
Somewhere along the line they lost sight of that. Now the game effectively punishes you for building more cities. It fucks up your happiness, your economy, your research, your production.
I think that a common complaint from players in all Civ games is that people get tired of micromanagement in the late game. So the solution that devs came up with was to punish you for building too many cities. That means less micromanagement. I guess that was easier than coming up with better AI to automatically micromanage your cities.
>>337344126
>not 12 year old anime loving neets
Im 26 and anime loving, but I dont like this bullshit, phone-level graphics.
>>337356331
But it was V that punished people for going wide empires. IV was still about making as much cities as possible. Only that they made placement more important and prevented ICS from happening.
>>337356331
civ 2 was super easy to cheese with caravans
How is it honestly any different than past Civ games?
>>337344126
This is shit but I'm more interested in how the gameplay is going to be dumbed down compared to V and especially the previous games.
>>337356943
Do you even use your eyes?
>It's a Clash of Civilizations episode
How can they miss their target audience THIS bad? Tell me /v/, I just don't understand.
>>337354525
>Have only one war unit
>Start war with almost everyone
>Create a cold war
>Wait until they want to create a peace treaty
>Refuse until they give you one of their cities
>Repeat
>Wait until they have one last city and destroy them
>Profit
I fucking love CIV V
>>337352578
>doesn't really suit the tone of the game
Cartoony artstype doesn't suit the game where it takes 100 years for unit to cross the river?
>>337356331
According to dev interviews happiness will be local not global for civ 6, also apparently geography will affect research rate so being costal could speed up nautical tech research. What this means is wide could be viable again, not that it wasn't viable in V.
>>337358347
Yes.
I want to feel like guide to the nation, leading them across the history. That feeling is combined with classic board game approach, to make it even possible without forcing players to play for months.
Previous Civ games could give me that.
>its a /v/ gets mad about graphics episode
I am hyped, looks good. Day one pirate.
Who cares about the graphics? What I want to know is if the AI still behaves like a schizophrenic retard.
>>337358501
Source?
Stylized graphics are superior, hyper realism is too intense on the system and you can do more/better shit when you aren't trying to make sure the trees have realistic shadows and foliage.
>>337358795
Because graphics DO matter a lot in case of game atmosphere.
Do you think that, for example, Dark Souls would feel exactly the same if it had Team Fortress 2 graphics style?
>>337344126
the game doesnt come out for another 6 months.
is this really what the final product is going to look like, or is /v/ just losing its shit over nothing?
>>337359019
Did they changed the looks of Beyond Urf since they showed first screenshoots? Or Civ V?
There is a huge risk that this is really how it will look like in the end.
>>337357582
Are youvjust shitposting or does that really work?
>>337358347
The tone of the game is centred around the fact that it's about the entire span of human civilization. It features abstraction and boardgame mechanics but generally the aesthetics of the game have been in line with that. That's not to say that the game's were never light-hearted or didn't have any humour but there is very clear gulf in presentation compared to the promotional material, or the previous game. Imagine if SMAC had used these kind of visuals, it would feel completely off.
>>337359017
Now I want to see a souls game with Dark Spire style.
>>337359017
>opinion. for example, false equivalency.
Cool socks.
>>337349536
It's building upon the content already in Civ V after all DLC plus the new changes like unstacked cities, better terrain, stacking support units into regular military units, dyamic research, a coastal city will research fighing and shit fast than one in the middle of a continent as an example.
Game is gonna be great m8, already got it preordered.
>>337344126
It looks like a fucking mobile game for Christ sake. For whatever reason instead of adding more definition to the game they literally blur the lines and make a fucking cartoony stylized game.
You srs?
Anyone saying the artstyle is fine is the same kind of memelord who though Spooky's House of Jumpscares was genuinely terrifying.
The thing with Civ games is that casuals actually eat that stuff up. In fact, any sim genre tends to hit big with the casual market. The more they simplify the inputs and the more devices they get their game on, the bigger the market truly is.
I have in-laws that do nothing but play Simcity and Farmville but used to be straight up addicted to the older Civilization games. If they can get a full experience of Civ on their phones, they'll definitely be hooked into it. Revolution was a nice start, but it lacks a lot of depth and the games are actually too short.
>>337359429
>already got it preordered.
>tying up $60 in a pre-order for a game about which minimal details beyond "it has features" is known, and that won't be out for 5 months
>>337359551
that's because it is a mobile game anon.
>>337352578
Doesn't fit the game where a fucking huge man can defeat a battleship? lol
>>337359181
Shitposting
>>337359181
It does, and im not complaining about it, i enjoy literally doing nothing but create political despair until they gift me cities and resources just for a peace treaty of 10 turns.
>>337359292
GOTAY.
>>337359318
Because you say so?
Nobody is bothered just because it's stylized. What people are angry about is that it's stylized as a mobile game.
If someone removed the hex outlines and told you it's the newest Clash of Clans clone, would you honestly have reason to doubt it?
>>337359181
To some extent yes it works. The AI is extremely dumb about peace treaties and you can get cities or shit tons resources for no good reason. I once ended part of a three front war right as one of the AI's was all over one of my cities and got two luxuries out of it. Another gave me a white peace a few turns later even though I was still outnumbered and then the last was easy to deal with.
>>337359839
Because I say that I look forward to it? Yes. I do look forward to it because I say so.
>>337344126
I fixed it guys, see pic.
>>337359960
And what would prevent me for calling your opinion meaningless too?
>>337352578
>Statue doesn't fall under it's own weight
They should add in shaders as a visual option. So if you want, you can tone down the bright colors, or just keep them if you like them.
>>337360051
It still looks like a fucking mobile game
>>337360051
Nothing sweetfx can't fix
>>337360139
the globe is hollow you dolt
>>337359704
What's it like living off of minimum wage?
In Canada it's 80 Tru-Doh bux too, thankfully I'm not poor.
>>337360139
The big globe is made of styrofoam actually.
>>337352578
Yeah bruh Civ 1 was totally black and white from day one, rite?
>>337360051
Now add terrain details and more trees in forrests and it could pass. But V would still looks better.
>>337359019
6 months ain't enough time to completely redo the engine entirely
>>337344126
I like it. Gives me a really relaxing vibe.
>>337344996
Fairly detailed? The terrain's texture looks like something from fucking 15 years ago.
>>337345318
>I blame reddit due to them having shit hardware
What are you even talking about?
The average redditor is the retarded PC master race dickrider with the same i7-4790k/970 build that everyone has.
>>337360449
But it is not about redoing the engine, it is about making more detailed textures.
Buildings and cities are fine detailed so far. Terrain and everything else looks like lowest possible graphic settings.
They still have time to fix this, IF they would actually LISTEN to their audience. And they probably dont.
>>337360074
Call it what you want, just don't pretend that what you say is fact when you won't back it up.
>>337360342
They also reduced the number of soldiers per unit in those pictures why
>>337360610
>Average Redditor
>Uses best Graphics Card and CPU based on cost for performance.
Guess that means redditors are smart?
Way to fucking go anon.
You dumbass.
>>337359797
>I've never tried so better call him shitposter
>>337344126
I don't care as long as the game isn't as boring as Civ5
>>337360725
Yeah and if you were capable of reading, you would realize I said it in response to an anon saying that somehow reddit has shit hardware.
At least I hope they'll give us lightning fast turn times with that level of graphical fidelity.
>>337344126
Is it a meme to hate this game's artstyle? I literally don't even see a problem with it.
>>337344126
the biggest problem is you can notice the steep different of each house cultural style, it makes the game weird
>>337352578
No anon, you have got it all wrong. It's supposed to be symbolic
>The ground: the hard work of coders who toil diligently on graphics programming, artificial intelligence, interface logic, and all that
>Atlas: the designers who spend all day crunching spreadsheets, documents, and generally struggling with the immense task of refreshing & reinventing an old standby PC series
>The earth: the incompetent publisher/advertiser, art director, and general artists who fuck it all up and are a burden on the company
>>337360278
Civ1's art doesn't suit the tone of the game, so what's your point?
>>337344126
>It's a game for armchair generals
>>337360752
>hexes
>1UPT not only for units, but now for city buildings and wonders
I've got some news for your anon, and you're not going to like it
>>337360991
/v/ like to complain and be cynical about video games, and so they're going to complain about the artstyle because there's nothing else to whine about
at least there isn't a black guy on the front cover
>>337361545
>boot up HoI/EU/Stellaris
>it's a game for snoring fast forwarders and map painters
>>337360991
>nothing wrong with eating shit stop being a hater xD
>>337359859
It doesn't look that different from Civ V in respect to scale or the design of your units/cities, they're just done up differently.
You're just paranoid about the mobile boogeyman.
>>337360219
I make a modest but decent salary, but if I spent that frivolously I'd be pretty poor yeah. Just because you can afford to pay for something doesn't mean it's worth the asking price.
>>337360991
are you a mobile "gamer" anon?
>>337358795
>Day one pirate.
but it needs two expansions to not suck
>>337362080
I played and liked Civ5 on release.
I played and liked Civ4 on release.
I'll be fine.
>>337357342
>Those shit graphics
Jesus fuck /v/
>>337361703
>You're just paranoid about the mobile boogeyman.
It's not a boogeyman when series go there to die.
Previously, that graveyard-ghetto was handheld (see Final Fantasy Tactics, Tactics Ogre, Shin Megami Tensei, Legend of Zelda, Megaman, the list goes on).
Hell, if I want to paint with broad strokes, you can even say entire genres went to handheld to die. Tactical RPGs, dungeon crawlers, and puzzle games are all genres that PC/console ignored and inevitably niche'd out to the handheld ghetto.
>>337362053
AoW was beyond its own time.
>>337361728
Doesn't sound very decent if you can't make regular game purchases with it on top of your typical living expenses.
Have you been suckered into starting a family or something, anon?
>>337361593
nobody complained about one being on the back cover
unless you're going to somehow argue that SMAC isn't beloved
>>337361703
Except he didn't say anything about the scale (though the trees still look fucking gigantic and don't even feel like a forest/jungle). What makes it look like a mobile game are the shitty-ass textures and lazily done terrain. If fireaxis had at last put some effort into the visuals I bet most people wouldn't mind the childish/cartoony art style so much. Only thing that looks remotely decent are the buildings.
>>337362320
Not really, it released alongside Heroes 4 and Disciples 2, both of which had gorgeous maps.
>>337352578
This. I also always feel Civ mainline series is more lean to table top games.
This artstyle more lean to mobile games.
Fuck I really want it to be good.
Any news on mod support?
SHIT NIGGER I had no idea this was Civ. I thought it looked pretty nifty at first BUT ITS CIV WHY have they chosen this style ?????? It fully looks like a baby game.
>base changes sound interesting
>art style doesn't fit the feel or style of the series at all
>m-maybe the mods will fix it?
I don't mind stylized but this looks so...cheap. I want to feel like a god-emperor, carefully guiding a people from the muck to the stars as commerce, religion, culture and science blossom from my careful tilling. These games don't always capture that but they should at least try if they want my money.
Ive seen this already but im still in disbelief that they chose this art style. I saw the trailer first on steam and it looked cool, so i look it up on google and OPs pic is what i see.
What the actual fuck?
It looks worse than civ5 and nearly as bad as age of empires online.
I dont even care about civ but that kinda pisses me off and makes me feel bad for fans.
>>337362751
Engine has been designed with ease of modding the game in mind.
>>337361472
nigger what? Yes it did. It legitimately looked like your first serious experience playing board games. The squared off units and cities make them look distinct from the map, as if they were individual pieces. Civ1's art style is at worst, fine, and at best, great.
>>337362375
If my bar was as low as yours (which is clearly pretty low) for putting down full price on a game then I'd almost be buying every game in existence. And of course I have a family, what are you a filthy hedonistic bachelor?
>>337344126
It has a similiar art direction to civ 4 but not the quality and detail of a game that you'd expect them to have made. What a fuckin blunder on their part. I don't mind the style but those models better be more detailed than these screenshots or I'm pirating or not even playing this shit.
>>337362053
Left looks really good. Why can't Civilization be more like that?
>>337360991
>Is it a meme
Stop it.
People who dont like this artstyle provided a lot of arguments against that. Trying to turn this into strawmen argument by using this retarded "meme" and "hate" terms is worst you can do.
>>337363492
I've bought like like 5 games this year full price anon.
And yes, I'm not even 30 yet, why would I ruin my youth on some woman who I'm growing to grow bored with in 6 months?
The real kicker is that Civ V sold over 8 million and this cheap shit is what they came up with afterwards.
>>337363736
>Stop it.
>blank line
>actual post
Eat shit.
Looks fine to me, the gameplay is already highly abstracted so I don't mind the visual style being simplified in some areas if it makes it easier to acquire information. Good UI design makes a much bigger difference than how noisy the texture of a grassland is. Perhaps if the visual style of the previous games was tied closer to the gameplay I would be bothered about the change but it never felt like it was, particularly so with V.
The important things about the game are how much/little it improves upon V and whether it compromises on depth in order to get an eventual mobile port out of it.
Still going to pirate it, wouldn't want to waste my money if it turns out to be a turd like Beyond Earth.
This must mean that the game doesn't take as long to start/load up as V and the maps are going to be bigger.
Warlock MotA > Civilization
Prove me 'rong.
>>337363850
>"I cant find any counter-argument, better stick to something meaningless".
You had one job.
left is terrible beyond belief and the UI artist need medical care for his shit taste.
>>337364079
I'm not that guy.
>>337363905
Doubtful
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>>337364531
Honestly Clash of the Clans with better graphics and interface would be a 9/10 game.
>>337364605
Except that all the gameplay info so far is pretty hype.Mainly because Firaxis is copying Endless Legend.
>>337363941
why do asians have to make everything into girls?
>>337364062
Warlock is shallow beyond belief. Play the game for 5-6 hours and you've seen everything.
>>337364605
>Civ 2 above Civ 4
shaking my head to be honest
>>337344126
If it plays like Civ 5, but better who the literal fuck cares? Can always play in strategic anyways.
>>337364915
Underage?
>>337344126
Why do kids think that the hardcore graphics make the game hardcore? 100% the same edgelords that were meme/metal shirt, because its brutal
>>337365203
>hardcore graphics
>tumblr
>>337365203
>hardcore graphics
Right, it's really damn hardcore to not look like android shovelware.
Do you guys even remember how fucking muddied and cluttered Civ V looks?
NEW LEAKED PICTURE
>>337364605
>Civ 4 that high
Shame tastes have fallen that low in our time.
>>337359429
>Civ 4 was kind of shit without BTS
>Civ V was borderline unplayable without G&K
>Nobody even remembers enough about Beyond Earth to remember if it was good or not
>Still pre-ordering the next civ game
>armchair generals
>absolutely shitty conquest policies that completely ruin warmongering and make waging war a terribly slow cluster fuck of uninteresting numbers
Kek
It's a board game
>>337344126
I'm fine with the graphics, it's just that everything looks so BRIGHT. Civ V had a good colour deal going on. Hopefully, there'll either be options for this stuff or early mods.
>>337360051
>>337360342
Neo /v/ is real, you guys are truly an antithesis to what we used to be. It's actuall kind of funny.
>>337360449
do you even now what an engine is?
>>337365659
No it's a simulation that I'm in control of, it's my world and my world is not a baby cartoon
>>337361579
Hexes are alright, the real problem is 1UPT. You can't have 1UPT without completely swinging the combat in favour of the player and making late game a fucking chore, so basically the game is guaranteed to be boring from the off.
>>337344126
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
>>337362375
Don't criticise others for being wasteful with their money, you're the one throwing away 80 communismbux on what is at the moment literally nothing.
>>337344126
Literal ripoff of Age of Empires Online
>>337365783
>simulation
Kekaroony
>>337364605
(you)
>>337344996
>fairly detailed
What?
>>337363941
I-I...
I w-would play it, if I could be such a qt leader like that red-hair one on the left.
>>337364605
>tfw everyone always forgets about Call to Power
I mean, it was retarded in terms of balance, but insanely fun.
>>337365967
Nope, that's more detailed.
Their last game was Space Pirates or whatever? It was an iOS game.
Sid Meier has decided Firaxis' true audience is apparently the Clash of Clans audience. They literally gave away their 4x throne, but that's fine because fresh blood devs are fighting to lay claim to it.
>>337365735
Please explain, what exactly you consider wrong in this approach. That we provide ideas, how this current theme could be fixed or what?
Why do you people care about the graphics in a game like that? No Civ game has ever looked good, nobody has ever cared.
>>337365659
It sure looks more like one now.
>>337344126
I like the art direction, graphics from Civ 5 was pretty shit even for when it was released.
At the very least their art direction can kind of hide their shitty textures.
>>337344126
in Civ 5 the trees look more like bushes so the trees in 6 are an I mprovement
>>337344126
Face it OP, Chad and Stacy playing on their new ipads are the new market now, get with the times gramps
>>337360649
It's probably because it's a special unit for what appears to be the Japanese, not the usual infantry.
>>337366578
Because the current style makes people associate the game with mobile shit. That's not exactly a flattering thing for a 4X.
>>337344126
It looks good. You're just a faggot, OP.
>Caring about graphics in a Civ game
I'm holding off on judgement until we see some landscape variety.
I have a feeling that snow/tundra will look really comfy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXX5B33Dp9g
>>337344126
Why do you care about the graphics so much?
>>337366398
Yeah right, all you fucking children do is complain. No constructive criticism whatsoever.
>>337366398
It looks fucking awful and it goes against the art direction. Desaturating everything is exactly what we used to make fun about since it was the industry trend as they tried to target kids who wanted to play grown up games for grown ups such as themselves.
>>337367024
>the inevitable contrarians who say something that looks shit looks good
lol
>game announced merely days ago
>/v/ shitting it down to the core with only 3 screenshots of evidence, of who knows if it's taken from a pre-alpha stage
>not even that, but people caring about graphics in a CIVILIZATION game
>>337366903
chad and stacy don't play civilization though
>>337363941
Honestly I would hate the game if it were like this. Am I a homo?
>>337344126
>It's a game for armchair generals and not 12 year old anime loving neets
No. Grand strategy are games for armchair generals, Civ is for playing some sort of party family videogame. The art style is fitting and fine.
>>337366873
They're supposed to look more like bushes
>>337367178
The art invokes fears of civ being dumbed down mobile shit, no one wants a watered down civ game made for the drooling retard mobile market.
>>337364804
because asian girls are worth being idolized
>>337367234
>>337366246
Google CIV Online
>>337367178
You don't need many screenshots to see they're going in a bad direction with the art. We're bashing what we don't like, no one is complaining about the new mechanics.
>>337367178
I know you know this but people don't actually care. /v/ doesn't play videogames and it certainly doesn't play Civ. Wait a few weeks and you'll see the Third Strike effect happen with people claiming to want Civ to be more like Civ IV again despite having never played it for more than a couple hours if at all.
You and I have been here for too long.
>>337367274
So this proves that the screenshots are mere bullshots.
It's obvious they fucked the graphics so they can port it to tablets easier
>>337367178
>game is 4 months from release
>DLC plan is already announced
>pre-alpha
>>337365949
You sound pretty flustered there anon.
Something wrong? Have you never paid for tickets to a concert or anything in advance? Preordering a game is essentially the same thing.
>>337367380
I don't want to see that again. Trigger is the only proper word I've found.
>>337367273
This 2bh
>>337367274
What the fuck, they were supposed to be merged ? Why am I such a tard ?
>>337367149
>the inevitable sheep who use flavour of the month words like "contrarian"
>>337367483
>>337367518
Concert:
>Limited tickets, may lose the opportunity to purchase
>Ordering early guarantees being able to see it
>If you don't buy a ticket, you won't see the concert
>If you buy a ticket 6 months after the concert, you are fucking retarded
Vidya:
>Unlimited copies, you'll always be able to purchase the game with a couple of clicks
>Ordering early gives you no bonuses whatsoever
>If you don't pre-order, you can look at reviews before buying
>If you buy the game 6 months after release, you get the same game but for less money and with fewer bugs
"Essentially" the same thing.
>>337367518
>thinking the consistency between shows of a band to consistency between games of a series is anywhere near comparable
Stop breathing, my man.
>>337367721
But the Steam Controller was pretty much made specifically for games with KB+M controls.
It's pretty expensive for an expansion pack that downgrades the graphics.
Let's hope they reveal something new about it at E3 since these minor tweaks are something you would see in an expansion for V and do not justify a full price.
looks like a Facebook game hahahah
>>337367491
>DLC plan is already announced
Really? Where?
I mean, I know it will get at least 2 expansions like V did, but I must missed that part.
>>337367858
>Ordering early gives you no bonuses whatsoever
Have you been living under a rock on the dark side of the moon for the last couple of years?
>>337367956
>40 Euros
wat. It's 60 here.
>>337368028
>Expand your empire further with the Civilization VI Digital Deluxe which includes the full base game, the 25th Anniversary Digital Soundtrack, and access to four post-launch DLC packs* that will add new maps, scenarios, civilizations and leaders for a bundled discount.
>*Save vs buying DLC packs a la carte. Individual DLC may be sold separately. If you purchase the Digital Deluxe, do not also purchase these standalone packs, as you will be charged for them.
>>337368064
It's 60 at Steam and Humble Store but 40 at G2A.
>>337367858
>wasting your precious time defusing this trainwreck of a comparison
Leave him be or he will come back with more marginally relevant stuff to try and maybe counter one of your points or switch the discussion's focus. A fool and his money are soon parted, it's just the way it is.
>>337367603
They're not.
>>337368054
so its pre-order-2-advantage now?
>>337365203
Civ V didn't have hardcore graphics but fit appropriately to the game's general tone.
>>337367603
They weren't, they don't actually match up. It just gives a better idea of the zoom level of actual gameplay.
>>337364708
>Autism Simulator
Interested in this now. Pls go into detail.
>>337368234
Maybe, Chaos could very well be one of the worst factions in the game.
>>337368146
Oh, thats justs the same shit that V did - few scenarios nobody played and few overpowered leaders.
Looks great to me. Looks much more readable, much less tiring than the pseudo-realistic crap in civ 5.
>>337367635
>flavour of the month
Did you just learn the word this month?
>>337368158
>G2A
Buying from that site providing stolen and such keys?
So whats the minimum requirements?
Samsung Galaxy S7?
>>337345318
Civ is always made for people with old PCs in the back of their mind. As long as we can get actually huge maps this time, there should be no complaints. If the maps are as small as V then I will understand the bitching
>>337368290
400 hours later and 7 restarts and I have not finished the campaign. Fuck that Slav bullshit.
>>337352578
Imagine if they had teased the game with this art a few weeks earlier, and then came out with those screenshots.
That would have been hilarious.
looks kind of like black and white 2
>>337368417
Don't let the Valvedrones brainwash you.
>>337367178
Look at Civ5's announcement screenshots.
It's pretty much the same as launch.
Do you really think Firaxis is going to change much in 3 months when they have to coordinate all the useless shit like boxing distribution, bugfixing, and certification?
>>337368398
It's just a phrase you autist.
Civilization has been shit since 4 anyway
>>337356331
It's the "the only good gundam is 0079" guy. Thanks for that exhausting post.
>>337368321
>and few overpowered leaders
>Denmark, Spain and Inca
>Overpowered
>>337368146
Welp, looks like I'm confirmed for Civilization VI: Day 1 Pirate edition
>go on civfanatics
>people there pretending the graphics look good
oh lawd
>>337367452
>no one is complaining about the new mechanics.
I fucking am. Hexes and 1UPT are cancer.
"Unrolling the city" is just as bad as Civ5's "unrolling the military," to use Ed Beach's own words. It requires an excellent tactical AI.
Given how Jewish Firaxis has become with DLC, I have absolutely no faith that they're going to spend time to make an AI good enough for this game. They'll cut corners just like they have since 5.
>>337368726
Wasn't Babylon a DLC civ? They're overpowered
>>337368789
I don't know about that. The districts will be grouped, so the AI will put science buildings in the Science District
>>337368290
Campaign is made of playing somewhat typical game over shard (think of floating part of world) to add it to your own. Each of such game takes few hours since you cant transfer too much between maps (actually, once per few battles you can get enough mana to re-use hero you had before or start with extra building or something). Shards unlock new buildings and units to add.
There are tons of shards and mutliple endings tied to your actions during the play, so clearing the campaign is basically cost of 200+ hours of total gameplay time. That is, unless you wont have to restart, because you screwed something over.
>>337359292
Uh, Wizardry?
>>337368679
You're implying the word hasn't been used regularly for ages. You simply must not have noticed it, it's a perfectly cromulent word.
>>337368780
Everything looks better than V except the trees
>>337368872
Yes they were, and they were the only one who was overpowered.
>>337367858
>>337367863
limited special/collector's editions and such like this anon pointed out.
I admit Civ VI was a poor example due to it not having any bonus.
I just preorder games I know I'm going to get hours out of. Anything else I grab on sale or grab keys for cheap through 3rd parties.
You both seem mad about someone buying things you don't. Seems like a case of autism.
>le civ v is bad
retards
So, does anyone have any indication that the gameplay is dumbed down? Everything I've heard sounds great
>>337368789
>Hexes and 1UPT are cancer
How can one man be so wrong? Hexes are a lot better then what squares will ever be.
>>337368887
I'm talking about military and how the military views those tiles. Specifically, pillaging. Or, if certain tiles can be obstacles (like walls)
Civ5's AI never understood pillaging (as a strategy), much less how to move units, formations, or splitting up its army into objective and sub-objective. "Unrolling the city" is only going to make that worse because suddenly the AI must now consider lots of tiny sub-objectives in its plans, not just
>conquer city, win
>>337356331
I actually liked Civ 2, I tried to play civ 3 for a whole night but just got bored of it.
I played civ 5 for less than an hour and uninstalled it.
i'll never play a civ game again
>>337359318
The comparison perfectly made his point. This whole thread is about opinion you faggot.
>>337344126
fucking disgusting
>>337368606
Dont believe that keys can really be get for much lower price than at any other shop, in some magical way.
>>337369101
>hexes
>6 degrees of movement
>squares
>8 degrees of movement (diagonal roads)
mathematically inferior
not to mention squares generate a much more pleasant cultural border shape progression, whereas hexes are quite ugly.
>>337368054
But Civ VI doesn't have any pre-order bonuses.
>>337344126
My first reaction when saw this yestarday was - wow this looks funny, not as charmic first impression as civ 5 gave.
BUUUT today I kinda appreciate it more, I think the art style and details would allow you to enjoy it more than civ 5 art style
>>337369070
no. it's designed by the guy who made the civ 5 expansions so SO FAR it's looking promising in regards to gameplay.
the main problem currently is that the visuals are similar to mobile games which instantly makes a lot of people think "dumbed down". also, of course, the general modern design principle for sequels to dumb everything down for consoles and idiots but whatever.
I don't give a fuck about this, at least I can play the game without my PC blowing up at post 500 turns
>inb4 hurr get a good pc
not buying 400 for a circuit board tho
>>337369058
Civ5 is mediocre and 6 seems to be carrying the torch, except this time with a mobile game art aesthetic.
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel, but I guess Firaxis is simply courting their new shiteating fanbase now.
>>337369058
My god, your eloquent argument has completely won me over. You're right, Civ V is the best game ever made, how could I have been so stupid?
>>337369243
>not to mention squares generate a much more pleasant cultural border shape progression, whereas hexes are quite ugly.
And that is where you are wrong, squares make it look to artificial. Like there is no real progressing behind it
>>337369295
Yet
>>337360219
Idiot.
So uh, how hard would it be a mod to replace the characters of Civ V with anime girl versions of the leaders?
>>337369335
>no. it's designed by the guy who made the civ 5 expansions so SO FAR it's looking promising in regards to gameplay.
Civ4: Beyond the Sword was designed by Civ5's lead designer, but that didn't stop Civ5 from being shit.
>>337368934
The use of the word "contrarian" has had massive influx on /v/ in the last couple of months because it gets picked up by a few and then repeatedly used deliberately in mimicry until its exposure to others on /v/ is so frequent that they begin to use the word deliberately too.
It's like when "shill" was thrown around like fucking pronouns. I don't know how it started but one day /v/ stopped using phrases like "stop sucking EA's dick" and instead would just shout "shill".
This time next year people will barley use the word "contrarian" in their posts because it will have been replaced by a new buzzword.
>>337360991
Mobile gamer detected.
What are the chances they can get Nimoy to do the narration again? That shit was great.
>>337369335
Has a Civ game ever been dumbed down, bar the spin offs?
Also, the devs have said they're including all the features of the V DLC in the base game, so that's good
shit you not it looks like age of mythology
>>337369767
I'd rather someone like Christopher Lee.
>>337369450
>Yet
So why not preorder once you know what the bonuses are?
>>337344126
I like the art style
>>337365596
I enjoyed beyond earth more than V
>>337366275
Well yeah, it's a fucking city builder, not a civilization builder
>>337344126
It's literally okay and doesn't matter, what matters will be the fucking casualized gameplay.And we will all still buy it, complain about it buy the addons and then we will be telling ourselves how the next Civ will never reach the god like level Civ 6 was on.
>>337369482
What's wrong anon? Why are you upset? Why are you shing out like a confused child?
>>337369884
Beats me, but I'm not planing to buy the game until I get a new PC. Which if I'm lucky will be after this summer and if I'm unlucky it will not be this summer, so I have no reason to preorder.
>>337369773
>Has a Civ game ever been dumbed down, bar the spin offs?
Yes, V.
>>337369767
>>337369863
Who it will actually be.
>>337347715
Civ 4 and 5 also have extremely cartoony graphics, not sure what the fuck you are on.
>>337344126
>armchair generals
No it is not. Its extremely silly, with extremely simplified combat.
>>337369767
>>337369863
I seriously hope both of you are joking
>>337369505
Depends on how easy they've made modding the game. They're claiming moddability was a core design decision in the new engine iirc.
>>337370015
Sean Bean
no 4x game will ever look as good
The change in style makes me worry about how they're going to do the leader screens. V's were god tier.
>>337363742
virgin detected
>>337370081
No shit you fucking retard.
>>337370151
I was actually referring to Civ V the last game but I hope you're right about mod support for the new game. Mods in Civ V were so limiting as they practically punished you for using them with achievements being disabled and crap like that.
>>337344126
Normally I'd take pleasure in seeing such a colossal fuckup, but Jesus Christ I don't understand how they could fuck Civ up this bad without thinking for even a second "wait a minute, maybe we don't want the mobile audience"
>>337369227
The magical way is callingcutting your profits in order to build up a customer base
>>337370202
This is a horrible mess. You can't see any of the relevant information easily, which is a pretty big flaw for a 4X game.
Civ V was such a disappointment, most of the content from IV was slashed along with less leader and unit variety
why is anyone excited for this
>>337344126
Art kinda looks gay as fuck, but if it allows them to do bigger things with less intensive resources then it's fine by me. I could barely run Civ 5 when I had my shitty computer with a GTX 480. Then the game had to keep resyncing and taking so long to load every 15mins.
>>337370245
Can't wait.
What if they went for propaganda versions of the leaders.
>>337360260
I wonder how heavy a Styrofoam ball of that size would be?
>It's gonna be shit because it looks like a kiddy game for 12 year olds!
>>337360139
Isn't that what makes Atlas impressive in the first place?
>>337370202
Endless as a series has excellent interface and decent art direction.
Shame about the gameplay and all the other important bits though.
>>337344126
Mods will fix this...eventually.
In the mean time, I shall eagerly await the year 2018 when the real Civ VI comes out, because we know it's gonna be stretched across multiple expansion packs.
Also, note that better attention to detail has been added to water graphics. You think they aren't gonna half-ass the navy this time?
>>337370202
>bland square-like designs
>good
>>337370612
I know you are merely shit posting but Wind Waker had cel shading which is completely different from a sugar coated mobile game look.
>>337370435
I've been reading all over the place and overall people really don't seem to like it. Some people don't give a shit, fewer like it. The majority detest it.
>>337370435
>"wait a minute, maybe we don't want the mobile audience"
If you knew anything about Sid Meier, you'd know that's exactly how he thinks. His last 2 games were failed mobile shit, a dogfighting game and a space fighting game (based on Beyond Earth's setting).
Bless his soul, but he no longer understands the PC market. He's going to drive Firaxis into the groundjust like MicroProse
So what's a good 4X game where you can finish a scenario in an afternoon or two?
>>337370296
Surprisingly no. Been in two relationships, broke up with the first because I found out she was rtying and doing ecstasy all the time.
Second girl was a year, 7 months. That break up tore me up something good. Sucks too, she was goimg to the best University in the Province, and now she works as a barista in my small town's coffee shop and steals from her job.
>>337370342
Oh, yeah. I'm just hoping they at least don't have any issues loading mods like both V and BE have where tou have to load them up twice otherwise it borks the UI.
>>337370757
>Simplified flat textures
>Cartoony art design
>Emphasis on high-contrast and colorful environments
No, it wasn't just Wind Waker being "cel-shaded". There are big parallels between the WW internet shitposting that happened in 2003 and the Civ VI shitposting happening today.
Why do we even care?
Every iteration of this series has been worse since 4. Revolutions, 5, 6, the stupid space one. This is just going to be even worse. We have literally joked about Ghandi being a prophet of the nuclear apocalypse since 1998 or whatever and its never changed.
Sigh.
>>337344126
>12 year old neets
You're a retard.
>>337370440
You seriously believe that publishers/shops themselves provide cheaper keys at sites like G2A?
>>337371028
>emphasis
>parallels
>simplified
stop talking like you work for IGN tho
>>337367178
>pre-alpha
Are you really that ignorant?
>>337371148
>talking
stop use big word
>>337370747
>walls
>not squares
uhh m8
and don't respond to me with a palisade. that's a fence
>>337371112
No I believe that G2A gets the keys for the same price but sells them without the profit margin steam does because they rather build a costumer base that will keep buying from them.
>>337367184
They will now.
Should I convert to Islam?
> graphics are like this to support VR
> the entire world is actually a board game on your virtual table
Laugh it up guys.
>>337370702
>Also, note that better attention to detail has been added to water graphics. You think they aren't gonna half-ass the navy this time?
>graphics
>design
Those departments are separate, anon
>>337367721
How about no, Gabe
>>337371413
Yes.
>>337371346
>but sells them without the profit margin
>they rather build a costumer base that will keep buying from them
And they magically are still on the market despie selling without profit margain, like some saints or something.
It is amazing, how people can believe that.
>>337371218
rockstation4 more good than you
eat rock gay man
>>337371184
/v/ in general doesn't know one speck of shit about how game development works, and the problem is only exacerbated by summer.
I don't blame children and teenagers for not knowing how things work. It's only when they stubbornly megaphone their ignorance that it becomes a true problemo
>>337367274
I like how it looks zoomed out. Big maps and all the shit they're putting in might be Civ IV good.l Honestly I just feel like the graphics are Civ IV throwback for a reason.
>>337344126
'what game is this
holy fuck is this civ 6?
Fuck this makes me want to go home, make some Tikka Masala, and then play V, maybe I'll do the brave new world again,
Play as the natives and fuck up the dutch.
I really wish VI would be decent but, alas I fear the end of quality in this series.
>>337367178
>only 3 screenshots of evidence, of who knows if it's taken from a pre-alpha stage
>announce game for October of this year
>only thing you have to show is pre-alpha screenshots
>>337371732
No it's Civilization Revolutions 2
>>337371760
>I really wish VI would be decent but, alas I fear the end of quality in this series.
>fearing the end of quality in the series
>going back to 5, the game that killed it
You're cute
>>337354525
etc, not ect
et cetera
there is no c before the first t
Any recommendations for setting up a quick game of Civ V that I can finish in a weekend? I have the complete edition btw.
>>337372010
That's like your opinion bro.
>>337372102
You set the speed to quick
>>337372102
Pick medium size map, max number of civs and Domination only victory.
It's going to be shit and worse than V.
You will all piss and moan about it until it finally gets its inevitable expansions and maybe becomes as good as its predecessor.
>>337368213
This
>>337372102
The time settings.
Or like Have a Max Turn limit thing on...
Check out the advanced settings for more info,
>>337363941
god please no
>>337372192
Civ6 is literally Civ5 with a new art style and one minor gameplay change (city buildings/wonders take up physical tiles).
That's it, it's the same game in all other important respects. They're both shit
I just pre-ordered this, how fucked am I?
>>337363941
This is the game I've actually always wanted.
>>337365967
that looks good, what's that?
Seems interesting, can't be worse than civ 4 & 5 at start
Looking forward to the new themes
>>337372657
>can't be worse than civ 4 & 5 at start
How cute.
>>337372813
Passive aggressiveness gets you nowhere, either spit it out or fuck off nuthugger.
What was wrong with civ 5 tho
>>337372471
If you don't give a shit about the graphics and stuff you'll probably like it or something
>>337373060
Unit mobility.
Religion.
Games slow to a crawl in the late game if you're playing with 10+ civs (unless you have a monster CPU).
>>337352578
>The artstyle is pretty shit and doesn't really suit the tone of the game
this is the game where Mahatma Gandhi, renowned nuclear warmonger, uses his atomic arsenal to blow up the Pyramids, located in Washington, USA.
If anything it needs to be much more of a cartoon
>>337372969
Firaxis already proved that their Civs are bad at the start and gets much better after expansions. Based on that knowledge, assuming that new game cant be worse than "base" 4 and 5 is a little bit naive.
Happy?
>>337373603
Much better
If its made by the same team behind BNW (which it is) then it cant be worse than 4 & 5 at start.
>>337370612
Tone anon. Tone.
If I had to suggest something,
Military (navy for example) were wonders,
Imagine building the Bismarck or the Yamato?
Or other military marvels that could only be build once by one civ.
That would be a cool game changer... Does anyone want to see that in the new Civ?
>>337371690
I'm not saying without a profit margin but with a smaller one since they don't have to provide the server infrastructure steam does. They just sell games from fucking hongkong, it's probably one guy and his friends or something.
>>337373741
Refer to >>337369627
Firaxis always uses their expansion designers as the leads of the next game.
>>337364605
Only thing I'd change is to move Civ 2 down to mid-tier (maybe mid-high), and split Civ 3 into with and without Conquests. Without Conquests (but with Play the World) Civ 3 should be in high tier with Civ 4 (Civ 3 was better with other humans, Civ 4 had much better AI). I'm... not sure there's been a god-tier Civilization game, honestly. Some have come close, but there's always something to complain about.
>>337357342
>switch 3 colors around
>new game $60!
>epic hype!
>>337374176
B-b-but it was in space!
who cares about the graphics, as long as its still 1upt it's not gonna be a civ game
>>337373317
Whacky emergent gameplay or having humour doesn't mean the tone of the game is that of a cuhhhraazeee cartoon. Otherwise pretty much every game could be argued to need silly visuals because games are silly. Do you think the boxart should be much more cartoonish too?
>sales on PC so shit devs had to downgrade graphics and cater to mobile gamers
>>337374485
It's not 1upt anymore, read the articles/interviews, bud.
>>337374519
This.
It's like people who argue that you can't mock a movie for its plot holes because hur dur it's not real anyway.
>>337374579
But I thought V sold really well, it has never left the most played games top 15 list on Steam.
BE was just a stupid idea that should have been Alpha Centauri game.
>>337368556
I imagine a more than a few us felt pretty deflated when we saw the art and trailer, and then saw the screenshots. What a rapid turnaround from hype to disgust.
>>337374731
Seriously, it was trying so hard to ape Alpha Centauri, but it got basically nothing right. It had some neat ideas, but nothing actually worked. Well, I mean, it was functional, to some extent. But everything it tried to do just slowed things down or bottlenecked the game in some irritating way.
>>337374579
It's not about the sales being shit, it's about wanting to expand their market. Pretty much everybody already owns Civ V, how else can they grow their market/returns other than by trying to tap the lucrative mobile market? It's looking like they won't lose out on their core market either considering it's a top seller on Steam already.
>>337344618
are you fucking serious ?
i like civ2 graphics the most, it was the first civ i played when i was 10 years old.
i hate the new civs, only good thing about it are the country borders.
hated the graphics of civ 5 but holy shit if this picture is civ 6 ... it looks like a child browsergame or whatever.
>>337362053
Left looks like vomit. Right has sharp crisp aesthetics with easily readable units, terrains, resources, and buildings.
>>337375054
Well it has been 6 years since V so I'm sure they could have come up with a ton of graphical, technological, gameplay and other updates that wasn't possible before.
And they are not going to expand their market, the moment they announce the mobile version it's byebye for Civ and Firaxis since no one is going to buy their shit, not even the mobilefags since you just don't play a slow and long game like Civ on a mobile device.
>>337367328
Civ is already dumbed down 4x strategy game for casuals, you fucking mongoloid.
>>337374579
>sales of GTA, Final Fantasy, Call of Duty, whateverthehell other multiplatform game on console are so shit that they have to release on PC
It cuts both ways. Or it's like >>337375054 says, which actually addresses the bottom line of companies: money.
Or you can look at XCOM 2, which determined that consoles weren't worth porting because apparently console gamers are too dumb for tactics games with one small iota of strategy flavor thrown in? I mean hell, even handheld gamers can play tactics games.
>>337370451
>You can't see any of the relevant information easily, which is a pretty big flaw for a 4X game.
EL has hands down the best UI in the genre, the fuck are you smoking?
>>337375683
>Well it has been 6 years since V so I'm sure they could have come up with a ton of graphical, technological, gameplay and other updates that wasn't possible before.
I'm sure they did the market research and realized it won't matter a shit. Take Two/2K/Firaxis seems pretty desperate to expand Firaxis games into other markets including when they put XCOM on iOS for some reason. You're too hopeful that people will drop them if they announce a mobile version, tons of people have already pre-ordered VI without good reason.
They should Shogun 2 this bitch up, let the player create the leader and customize him/her, make it persistent across multiplayer matches so you can rank up your shit, keep track of your statistics and stuff.
...or just do a Civ V reskin because that worked so well for Beyond Earth.
>>337375907
Hmm, I'm not quite sure that's true...
I mean, it is great, but there is the occasional hassle, or some piece of information that's a bit of a pain to get at when you want it.
If I had to say, I'd say it uses a very traditional style of UI (military in the military tab, research in the research tab, etc) but with probably the best layout for its type of game. But it's not quite good enough for me to call it the best in the genre, or at least not quite.
But it's up there, for sure.
>>337370202
looks like a mobile game
I'm just waiting for somebody to make a cartoonish version of the boxart.
>>337362634
Heroes 4 was disgusting. Heroes 3 looks far better.
Like, wtf is up with the square castles and cardboard water.
4 also has nothing but retarded units, like leprechauns and squires in red and purple instead of good ol lancers.
Only thing 4 did correctly was the skill system and music.
>>337376260
civ 3 was ugly muddy computer generated derpciv 4 was ugly colorful computer generated derp
>>337375683
>Well it has been 6 years since V
>>337376176
>wanting to shit up a game about history and geopolitics with a Mary Sue / Gary Stu protagonist
No thanks. Your kind should be quarantined in Fire Emblem Awakening/Fates so that you can't do damage to other seriesR.I.P. Fire Emblem
>>337370435
Sid Meier is an old man who wants them to get in on these new fangled mobile gizmos.
>>337376386
Yeah, screw innovation, we want to buy the same game over and over again.
>>337362634
>Heroes 4
Doesn't exist, sorry.
>>337376510
>Innovation = adding retarded shit from other series
>>337376510
>innovation means adding self-inserts into everything
yeah tumblr dating sims are so progressive
>>337376176
No. They should give nations a larger leader selection like Civ IV.
>>337376561
To be fair, the influence resource from Endless Legend is a pretty good idea. I just haven't really seen it implemented that well anywhere, yet (not even in Endless Legend).
>>337376561
>>337376585
It's not retarded tho, you do know what countries have had many different leaders in history?
It would be neat to at least choose if not customize them.
>>337376510
>doing nothing original while fucking up what works
>innovation
I'm pretty sure you posted that on a iphone
>>337356331
I'm always a bit confused about all the praise BNW gets. It completely killed whatever wide empire gameplay was in V and destroyed early warfare. Not to mention Diplo victory became even more absurdly easy.
>still arguing about the graphics instead of the radical change to cities and urban development
You can probably do shit like WW2-style bombing an entire city's infrastructure to cripple it without having to physically occupy the tile with land units now.
Also, for people still complaining about wide vs tall imbalance or global happiness in Civ V, FUCKING PLAY CBP modpack. Here's even a link for you lazy faggots: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=528034
>>337376856
I think Gods and Kings did more to balance the game. What Brave New World did was to add more options at various points in the game. More to do, basically, even if a lot of it didn't work terribly well.
>>337377065
>still arguing about the graphics instead of the radical change to cities and urban development
Honestly from the sound of it it's just Rise of Nations, but turn-based. Nothing revolutionary, unless they do something with it I can't really think of. The only really big question is whether things will be attackable individually, or if you can pillage them, and if walls will block movement. So... not really that much to talk about, honestly.
>>337376856
Because at its fundament, beside being punished for being a literal cancer alexander-esque player that builds cities everyfucking where he can imagine, it was a solid civ game.
Civ 2 is essentially just spread your semen everywhere and go forth. The later civ games is more about sustenance and stability.
>>337344126
>12 year old anime loving neets
I think you meant normalshits and children in general who have an iPad.
>>337355123
Too many toasters.
>>337344996
>fairly detailed
there are literally no details
Is it even possible to make the diplomacy screens look more like a mobile game?
>>337377273
I remember how ICS used to be almost bannable offense.
Pooping city next to previous one and dedicated solely to produce more, slowly covering every single square with cities...
One guy tried that in SMAC with Hive (probably the only side that could do so) and result was both wonderful and horribly scary.
>>337376260
heroes 3 was pretty ugly to be honest
>>337377634
It's fairly detailed for a mobile game.
>>337375478
worse, it looks like Godus
>>337350793
I've played huge map Civ V games with 22 civs on my toaster laptop before. I don't get the complaint.
How does the Community Balance patch compare to the quality of life modpack?
>>337377706
Give the leaders more exaggerated models like those in Civ Rev, except with bigger heads and smaller bodies.
>>337378142
fuck no
>>337378087
Quality of life is more of a vanilla plus. Community Balance patch is more of an overhaul. There's quite a few very different mechanics compared to vanilla, like the happiness mechanic.
>>337355123
dw3 doesn't look that bad, but i hate this cartoon style too, i hate devs for this.
>>337378374
Does community balance disable achievements, I ask because that's sorta the driving force that gives me goals when playing this game.
>>337365798
It's a compromise between 1UPT and MUPT. There are now support units that can stack with others(Ex. Anti-aircraft + infantry) and give special characterisitics. Also units of the same type can combine to make powerful 'corps' groups which are stronger than normal. Some worker units and military units can also stack(warrior + settler).
>>337378553
You need to let go of your achievement whoring ways.
>>337344126
I don't see the problem, I think it looks pretty good. I like the fact that the roads don't look all fucked up like they did in Civ V, especially if you tried to connect them for 3 different tiles and they looked like a giant fucking circle.
>>337377634
Look again. The roads, the grass. There is a lot of detail. The color pallet is simple which can mask the detail if you aren't paying attention.
Civ 2 was amazing, it incorporated local rebellions, empires breaking apart in 2 civs, global warming, shenanigans with caravans and railroads, a spying system that wasn't just a menu with RNG.
Civ 3 removed a lot of stuff but fixed naval invasions and secret pacts knocking on your door.
Civ 4 brought religion and culture wars.
Civ 5 I don't even know since everything is behind DLCs.
>>337345318
I actually checked the reddit sub for civ to see what they thought, and the reaction was pretty negative. Either this place is truly /v/eddit or people really don't like the art style. I wouldn't be too surprised if Firaxis made some new textures and made models a little higher detail now.
New farms look better, I never liked the ones in Civ V
Most concerning thing is the shrinking of unit sizes. I get that they'll individually be smaller so they can be merged together seamlessly but even still, 4 soldiers or two horsemen is less than half of what was in V so a fully merged unit is still going to be smaller. This goes against the benefit of simplifying the visual style, which is to make it easier to gather information at a glance. 4 horsemen per unit would have allowed us to see each 25% increment visualized on the unit, less men per unit means less potential for visualization and I'm not really seeing any potential gain from it.
>>337378742
>I think it looks pretty good
I wish I was color blind, too.
The graphics are shit since it won't take too much resources when it will get console and mobile releases.
>>337379151
>Civ 4 brought religion and culture wars.
Don't forget corporate shenanigans and actually decent AI. Also, in my opinion, probably the best balanced and most interesting tech-tree in terms of combat and spying. Best use of stacks in combat of any of the Civ games.
>>337379151
>since everything is behind DLCs
Since many years expansion packs are called "DLCs", only sometimes with added "major" word.
>>337379373
then civ v would look good
>>337379373
I don't think you know what color blindness is
>>337366253
I love Call to Power and wish it would come back as a legitimate competitor to Civilization.
>>337344126
Will it not run like shit?
Will i be able to play +300turns without having to wait minutes for the AI to do it's shit?
Will the diplomacy system not be complete unusable garbage?
Will it be fun?
Artstyle doesn't really bother me, looks sharper than 5, which had a bit of muddiness to its textures.
Honestly i didn't play 5 for the graphics and if they had a better 2d mode, i would probably have used that if it meant that the AI would be faster.
>>337379434
Spying in civ 4 was the absolute most broken piece of shit ever, don't try to revision history now
>>337379797
I really hope they figured out how to improve AI turn speed this time, then I can finally play a full 24+ game.
>>337362053
2D =/= 3D
>>337344126
>its children dislike the art because it doesn't look mature enough episode
It's like being on Neogaf...
>>337362053
To be honest, I never got into AoW2 because I've always thought it looks like shit.
>>337370202
looks like the GOT intro--- i kinda like it
>>337380451
same reason i'm not going to get into civ 6
>>337380112
game was pretty unoptimized
Personally I will wait for more information. I don't play mobile shit to hate this style, so for now maybe I will even pirate it to try it out.
>>337357342
bette than Civ6
>fuck smoothy
>fuck mobile app hype
>>337380176
This. I'd rather have a game that loads faster than Civ 5, not slower.
It's not like making the graphics more muddied and washed out is going to improve the gameplay, which is what's really at stake here.
People will forgive almost anything if the gameplay is good.
>>337381246
We are an anonymus. We not forgive or forget.
/v/ in a nutshell
>everything is too brown
>everything is too bloom
>everything is too colourful
>>337381509
>I'm new here: The Post
>>337350408
Overwatch is wonderful art style you retard this is some mobile phone shit
>>337381509
What if it really is?
>>337381509
You could have made it like V but with more polys and higher res textures.
Sorry Firaxis, I know you tried very hard.
>>337381509
> Hundreds of people can't have different opinions
>>337344126
What the hell is this crap?
it looks like a game for toddlers
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who think Civ 5 is better than 4
>>337381750
>seriously thinking Overwatch's artstyle is anything better than mediocre
lol
>>337382046
Ghana civ when?
>>337379932
It had the same problem that stacks-of-doom did, honestly. If your enemy invested and you didn't, then they could roll over you.
In Civ4, you could never get away with mono-focusing your empire. You couldn't go 100% science and just out-tech your enemy without any production, you couldn't go 100% spying and just cripple them, you couldn't go 100% military and just crush them.
A balanced play-style that gathered information and reacted to your enemy's moves was *required* at any sort of high level of play (barring marginal strategies like civil-service-slingshot) it you actually wanted to win against a high-level AI or a decent player.
>>337344126
is this Age of Empires online?
http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/05/12/civilization-6-developer-rewind-theater-ign-first
It's just commentary from Ed Beach (lead designer) and Dennis Shirk (lead producer) over the reveal trailer, so no new pictures, but a sum-up of what they talk about:
>Fog of war will look like a hand-drawn map of the areas you've already explored.
>The Sphinx, Great Wall, Coliseum and the Forbidden Palace are confirmed -two will be WWs, and two will be unique buildings.
>The great work system is back in Civ VI. The Mona Lisa and Starry Night artworks will return as great works, as well as "Liberty Leading the People" by Eugene Delacroix.
>Some fleshing out of the agenda system- "we have an agenda system that's gonna drive them to each have things they care very deeply about. So, Gandhi's gonna have some friends in terms of interesting characters that you love and hate as you play the game"
>Changes have been made to the science victory.
>One victory type is gone from Civ V, one new one has been added.
>The theory that they're using to build the diplomacy system- "As Civilisations grow, warfare becomes less and less the condition of diplomacy" "early on, war will be the natural state of the game"
>Further on in the game you will have to "formally declare war"
>"Because cities are spread out, you're gonna be fighting in your campus, your holy site, your neighbourhoods, so it just introduces a whole new level of decisions that you have to make to really defend what's yours"
>The technology boosts are called "Eureka moments"
>It is Sean Bean in the intro. "he managed to make it through the whole recording session without anything unfortunate happening"
>Atlas will not be appearing as a wonder in the base game, but Ed has considered adding it later on.
How do I get into Civ games? I've been trying to play V but I have no idea what I'm doing. Typically I set my workers to auto and prioritize productivity and try and get a ton of science so I can make war units that spend a majority of their time standing idle.
Basically I'm playing aimless without any knowledge of what I should be doing or how to asses what it is I should be doing and end up making excess units since I have no clue what amount I need nor the right time to make them.
>>337382046
For an out of the box game it is. Civ 4 is only better because of its mods.
>load up civfanatics to see what the dealio is
>they are complaining that Gandhi is the leader of India again
>>337383231
>Sean Bean not dying in the intro
dropped
>>337344126
Murica needs to censor art now. Absolute Haram. The French will be pissed lol
>Civ VI stealing the city district mechanic from Endless Legends
>>337383231
>One victory type is gone from Civ V, one new one has been added.
>warfare becomes less and less
>Further on in the game you will have to "formally declare war"
i only care about military victory, i hope they haven't fucked it up too much.
>Sean Bean
some good news atleast, do we know if he's going to be the narrator?
>>337383804
I hope Sean Bean isn't the narrator, his accent is shit.
>>337383804
I doubt it, other countries probably start to look at you like a terrorist when you invade without warning and expect you not to skip over diplomacy.
>>337383782
>Amplitude sets standards for 4x now
Good to hear.
>>337383896
onions, onions
>>337383934
nah, the US and Russia do it all the time.
>>337383804
I don't think they're saying that they're removing warfare or warfare-type victory, it's more that as civilizations get more advanced, there's more nuanced diplomacy and it's harder to just outright war without justification.
I can't tell you what exactly that will entail, but it could mean more world war scenarios if you try to blitzkrieg countries in the modern age.
>>337383782
> The best games are the ones that ignore improvements made in their genre
> Every RTS after Rise of Nations was great
>>337366253
Man, I miss being able to make underwater and outer space cities. Literally the only future unit you get in Civ V is the giant death robot.
>>337344126
I just threw up a bit in my mouth
That shit looks like it's running on an xbox
>>337384215
what if i run a giant island nation that's self-sustainable and i just nuke everything else?
will nukes actually affect the whole map now, that would be kinda cool
>>337384475
they affected the whole map already in Civ IV
indirectly but they affected the whole map
>>337384271
Fuck, it wasn't just the underwater cities, everything past the renaissance age was broken
>Halting the enemy's capital city production by spamming lawyers
>Levelling cities with Eco Rangers
>Could destroy every building in a city with a single Ecoterrorist
>Motherfucking infectors
>Space bombers completely obliterating ground troops
>Entire cities getting fucked up by pollution
That game was too good for this world.
maybe it wont run like shit this time
maybe it'll have basic fucking features that need to be modded in this time
maybe it'll have actually good mod support this time
maybe it'll actually be good at launch this time
>>337385441
4/4 of those are a no
>>337383231
>>The technology boosts are called "Eureka moments"
I see they're going for the Reddit market.
>>337377328
>A-ha! Here's the problem!
C-can you b-build a civilization that will stand the test of time?
>>337386996
LOL i was just thinking this xD
>>337387518
Let's do it together anon-chan.
>>337384083
They still declare war though, and are often invading states that aren't even internationally recognized. In civ 6 it sounds like you can be looked at more as a threat to the world than an aggressive nation if you don't officially declare war.
>>337388525
nah Russia just denied that the troops in Ukraine was theirs.
>presenting Civ 6: pocket edition
>leaders are IAP
>this wonder will complete in 23 hrs 59 min or you can finish now for 380 Civ Bucks
>>337388832
>this wonder will complete in 23 hrs 59 min or you can finish now for 380 Civ Bucks
i don't care if this is the free mobile thing but if the desktop game is like this that's a totally different story.
Would be nice if you could actually buy the mobile version so it didn't have all that crap.
>>337344996
This. Realism is the cancer of videogames.
>>337372046
remember to take your medicine
>>337389714
What year do you think this is?
>got civ 5 for 12.50 usd
>modded it to exactly where I want it
>enjoy it immensely
Multiplayer is shit though, and paying $60 for a game you know nothing about in the year 2016 seems a bit reckless.
>>337384963
The fucking eco rangers. Why did you remind me? The nightmares re coming back.
>>337390437
>in b4 what r u poor
Anyone here starting to regret building a gaming PC?
>>337382193
It's great, actually. Most people would agree.
>>337388736
And the entire western world hates Russia for it
>>337390694
that was a good year
>>337390913
most people don't care tbqh
>>337369006
Korea and Mongolia as well mate
>>337390828
Tell me whats great about it that makes it better than the average
>>337390964
>literally the year that destroyed the future of FPS
>good year
>>337344126
I cringed when they revealed that 9/11 monument in the trailer.
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