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So how long until you retarded hipsters start hating this piece
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So how long until you retarded hipsters start hating this piece of shit?
You all hate a game once it hits a certain level of popularity, I'm tired of seeing threads about this game.
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This is not the case anon because
>MHU WAIFU
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>>337341102
Happened to every other game /v/ thought was GOAT
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>WAIFUBAIT
>shitloads of classes
>a number of gameplay concepts that aren't even in TF2 which has had 9 years of updates to catch up
>easy to be good against pubbies meaning it feels good, always
>no K/D board meaning your team will start actually caring about their roles
Only the Quake and CS crowd will be put off by this game.
It's going to be the LoL of FPS, for as good and bad as that may be.
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>>337341102
That will be the taking-off point for the shitposting though.
>shit game is only popular for the waifus
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>>337340961
Took me ~20 hours in alpha to realize this game sucks

Eventually people will get tired of the waifubat faggotry and realize the gameplay is very shallow
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screencap this
overwatch will be standart in future buyers regards threads
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>>337341410
i hate quake CSGO overwatch TF2 and The last of us
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>>337340961
But it isn't a piece of shit. Overwatch is genuinely a joy to play and most times even losing is fun.

Not to mention it scratches many players' itch for flashy moments and random funny kills and deaths.

Solo queue is terrible and pointless though, but with just one friend with you you can carry a game with some planning and moderate skill.

Also for the true MVP there's some heroes who can do it all in the hands of a good player. Examples:
>Tracer
Can kill any other hero if you know the map and time your abilities right
>zenyatta
Obscenely powerful support and surprisingly strong attacks when you get used to the playstyle of "don't get hit"
>Genji
Cyberninja who can deflect sniper bullets, rockets, minigun fire, even junkrats ulti? Learn to time it right andbe untouchable with genji mobility

Just some examples of heroes that cant be shut down without some real teamwork.

Plus, it's a blizzard game. It'll always make bank and no one can stop it.
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>>337340961
Nah, everyone who's hating is hating on the new Doom.
Overwatch is at least a new IP, not a bastardized remix of current FPSs usurping a defined classic's name.
Blizzard tend to understand what they're doing, Bethesda really don't. It's id in name only now, so don't play that.
A LoL of FPS might be good for the stagnating genre, actual competition for CSGO, in spite of the differing styles.
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>>337341410
I grew up on Q3 and started playing CS with 1.3, and I'm not put off by it. It's casual but it's fun.
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>>337340961

HONESTLY, why do you care if the /v/ hivemind hates it or not?

jesus christ
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>>337340961
>60$
>for 20 characrers with 1 weapon and 3 skills on like 10 small maps.
>game still has microtransactions in it
>this for the same price as TW3, DS3, or whatever game with actual worthwhile content in it
yeah, it's shit because it's popular
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>>337341903
So what's the point in playing a game that isn't even fun unless you play with a friend? I would like to play it on my own time and still enjoy it instead of relying on my friends to make it fun for me. That sounds like League shit all over again.
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>>337341892
wew. Hating everything that is mainstream sure does make you original..
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>>337342040
80 dollars here in canada
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>>337342040
60 for origins that gives some skins. 40 for the game itself. That 20 extra is a choice.

There are no microtransactions.

More maps will be added.

More heroes will be added.

KYS
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>>337342095
>multiplayer game
>doesn't want to play with friends
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They can't hate it because wi-fus.
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>>337342185
>implying
Playing with friends is not an issue but me and my friends all have full time jobs and shit to do. It's not gonna be often everyone on at the same time, or even one other friend to be around at the same time as my free time, and then they all have to have the same shitty taste and actually want to drop 60 dollars on this game.
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I agree. There are way too many threads about this. It needs a containment board
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>>337341648
>takes 20 hours to realize you dislike something
Huh.
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>>337342178
>60 for origins that gives some skins. 40 for the game itself. That 20 extra is a choice.
the base game is 60 on both ps4 and xbone, that's still the price of a full game
>more heroes will be added
yeah, like 10 more in 2 years with like 5 other small maps
if sf5 was shitted all over with it being released with only 16 characters (that are detailed way more depthfully for gameplay) and people give it 3/10 ratings I don't see why people would give OW for example 9/10 ratings with even less content both for starting and both for the future.
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>>337340961
The game is fucking garbage and shallow as fuck. The only ones who'll play it are LoLtards and DOTAfags
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>>337340961
This game is going to be dead in 3 months
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i just wanna play d.va..... so badly......
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>>337342095
>doesn't have friends
Haha wow.
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>>337342095
It's not like you CAN'T enjoy it solo. It's more like you probably won't. Like most blizz games, the community is the one making it work.
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>>337341410
I do agree on kd boards. Shits fine in arena shooters, but its not arena shooter in the slightest
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>>337340961
>You all hate a game once it hits a certain level of popularity
but that's wrong
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>>337342469
>the base game is 60 on both ps4 and xbone, that's still the price of a full game
>playing on console
kek
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>>337341410
>no K/D board meaning your team will start actually caring about their roles

Sort of. You could see what medal you had for the important group of stats (Kills/ObjectiveKills/ObjectiveTime) so if you don't have a gold/silver/bronze, you know full well you're human landfill that can't play a casual game.
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>>337340961
>I'm tired of seeing threads about this game
Use the filter feature in the native extension or in w/e 4chan extension you prefer. It's an easy problem to solve.
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>>337342454
It has a great first impression but the more you get into it, the more you realize its shortcomings
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>>337342469
>It's 60 for consoles
Wow it's like console shitters get charged 20 additional bucks per game to pay off their "cheaper" hardware

>Blizzard wont add shit
The reason that there are so many Blizz drones is that they don't abandon their games even if they are shit
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When will the waifufag threads on /v/ end? This is neptunia and senran levels of autism
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>>337340961
I hate games that are objectively bad
This game is objectively mediocre
So I don't hate it and let people have fun with it

But this constant flood of Overshillthreads is getting pretty annoying
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>>337342787
>>337342807

Use the filter dumbass.
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>>337340961
>I'm tired of seeing threads about this game.
THEN STOP MAKING THEM YOU NUTCASE
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>>337342469
>playing fps on consoles
Found the pleb

>yeah, like 10 more in 2 years with like 5 other small maps
Citation needed. You seen a timeline from blizz stating they will only add some stuff sometimes maybe?

This game has gigantic hype already and it'll be so popular that blizz will keep feeding the players more content. If it's in a form of payable dlc, then screencap this and call me a faggot later.

For now they've stated that there are plans for adding many maps and heroes, but no plans for moneygrabbing
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>>337342745
>>337342684

didn't said they won't add shit, I said that they won't add shit more frequently than in every 1-2 month, and that still won't be much

Also I don't even own a console but at least half of the people will play it on them like they do with most modern fps games.

defending the game's full price while shitting on other games price with similar content and quality is not right mkay?
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>>337342454
he's played it and now it's boring you retard.

Anyways, I played it for about 30 hours in the closed beta, I'm pretty much done with it too. Maybe in a year, more modes and a PVE mode will appear and I'll be interested
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Guild wars 2

>Map the size of 80 overwatch maps
>80 levels
>10 abilities
>59 combinations
>free

Overwatch
>10 small maps
>30 characters with generic moba abilities
>1 combination per person
>4 abilities
>60 dollars
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>>337343114
But it is right, as the game is cheaper on PC than most games with "similar content and quality" are on PC.
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>>337340961
Downloading open beta I was very sceptical, but in the end I had tons of fun playing it like holy shit. Yeah its casul, yeah maps are not that great, yeah playerbase are dimwits, you can find a lot of flaws in it, but fuck me if it's not FUN game to play.
Great stuff
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>>337343234
>comparing mmo to arena shooter

Also guild wars 2 was never good
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>>337343114
My "is it a gud buy" rule is - if i get out 1 hour of fun per buck spent it's a gud buy.
I nearly got this with the beta, so by my standards it's a good buy.
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>>337340961
>I'm tired of seeing threads about this game.

Proceeds to make another thread

Well done baka.
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>>337343321
not it isn't,
it might be the 2/3 price of a full game on pc but still doesn't have 2/3 of it's content
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>>337343234
GW2 is absolutely nothing like OW though. Have you actually played both games?

GW2 is a disgrace to the GW name anyway. They shat on everything that made the original such an amazing game.
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>>337343390
>1 hour fun content justifies a full price game
I hope you don't ever rate video games or recommend buying them to anyone.
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>>337341903
>Tracer

I thought Tracer was garbage when I first tried the game. After learning the maps and the heroes I tried Tracer again and now she's one of my favorite characters to play. You are actually unkillable and can just be a constant nuisance, picking off people who are alone or just straight up diving their whole team without dying. All until you build up your ult and then you do this shit.
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>>337343590
overwatch isn't a full priced game and there will be new heroes and maps
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>>337343517
It has nearly double the content of the first including expansions.

I wasn't necessarily comparing the games themselves, but rather the content you get for free compared to the content you get for 60 dollars.
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>>337343517
not him, but gw was only shit because how they handled character progression and difficulty

for content, visuals, music, it's godlike
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>>337340961
Ive shit talked this game since day 1. There is no reason besides advertising anybody should have purchased this.
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>>337343590
What is reading comprehension?

He clearly said one hour PER BUCK SPENT. That means 40 bucks -> 40+hrs spent is a good deal.

I bought the game when i'd played beta for 15 hours and i clocked 50 in open beta. I've already gotten a payoff better than 1 currency for 1 hour.

Same can be said for stuff like morrowind that i bought on sale for 5 euros and clocked 300 hours before getting bored.
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>>337343649
It's still full priced on consoles no matter how you won't play on it, half of the players will still play and buy the console version

>more content will be added
I don't remember 90% of the people defending sf5 for doing this, it's like the exact opposite, everyone shat all over it how it's an "early access game" because it doesn't have enough starting content for it's price
I'm pretty sure this game will have around 9/10 user ratings for the same reasons sf5 got a 3/10 one.
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>>337342040
>>337342168
>>337342178

Literally dlcompare
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>>337341979
>actually pulling Doom into the discussion completely out of nowhere
What are you, autistic? Nobody wants to hear your hate for a different game.
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>>337340961
It's too casual-friendly to be hated by /v/.
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>>337343789
>There is no reason besides advertising anybody should have purchased this.

What if i tested it with the open beta, then deemed it fun enough to be worth 40 dollars?
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>>337344003
free content......
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2 weeks after its out
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>>337344107
sick freak

i hope you get banned you shill
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>>337341410
>>no K/D board meaning your team will start actually caring about their roles
>implying I can't see you're all fucking deadweights when I get gold medals everywhere, including damage and kills as a tank
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>>337340961
It's a meme game that is severely lacking in content.

It will die pretty soon like Splatoon.
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>>337344227
>gold in kills and damage done every single game.

Roadhog boyz ww@?
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>>337344107
See you when you will have played it for more than 30 hours and start seeing all the game design flaws.
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Blizzdrones_eating_shit.jpg
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>>337340961
Played the beta the game should be free to play it's not worth anyone's money with that kind of content. I don't hate it I just don't care.
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>>337344318
I already played way more than 30 in those 5 days.
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>>337344297
Yes. And D.Va, and winston.

Not Reindhart though. Too passive and teamplay to be played with pubs.
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>>337344318
what game design flaws
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>>337340961
Release day, faggot.

Stay mad.
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>>337340961
Soooooooooooooo you want everyone to hate it so you'll stop seeing threads about it? And you're calling everyone else retarded hipsters...
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>>337344447
>Winston
>Damage
what

Yeah he knocks people the fuck out and harasses like a god, but he shouldn't be getting damage done or most kills.
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>>337344392
Are you sure about that? Were you level 40-50?

>>337344463
win buttons, instakill combos with no counters, stuns, wallhacks and aimbots.

Things that should never ever be an fps. Ever.
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Who /day1/ here!? /v/ hates it because they are poor as fuck lmao.
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>>337344546
Unless your team is garbage and you're a decent player. Besides, the lightning gun can hit multiple targets.
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>>337344619
RIGHT HERE

Pretend I posted an image, I did preorder it though.
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>WAA WAA DONT PLAY GAMES I DON'T LIKE WAA WAA
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>>337343641
you can see the moment where he looked down to his keyboard to find the e key
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>hate game because it's popular.
You so edgy.
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>>337341856
>buyers regards

Screen capped for idiocy.
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>>337344581
Everything you listed has counters though, if you arent shit at videogames. The only thing that might be fucking dumb currently is McCree and thats only because he is effective at every range. Oh and Lucio being the best support by far, but they could easily tone both of those things down.
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>>337343684
The sheer amount of content isn't relevant, what matters is how much time you can spend enjoying the game. More content of course tends to increase a game's play time, but it does not indicate that you actually indicate you'll play it for a long time. A game can be shitty and boring with lots of content or on the contrary have very little content but be highly enjoyable. Gameplay and how much you like the gameplay is more important (to me, at least) than the amount of shit they shoved in the game. This is especially relevant to MP games, where gameplay you enjoy greatly can make the game last you a very, very long time.

How much you like the gameplay obviously depends on taste. I played OW in the open beta for a pretty decent time, I was level 35 or some shit and didn't get tired of it at all. I'm sure I'll get hundreds of hours out of it, I probably already got 30-40h in only 5-6 days. That's unprecedented for me with a modern FPS which are almost invariably shit or OK at best, so $40 really isn't much after actually trying it out for an extended period of time.

>>337343757
GW2 was shit because they removed all the interesting and cool mechanics that the original had and simultaneously made the end-game dungeons fucking retarded, boring and braindead. They wanted to remove the "trinity" and as such made every class do the same shit in a somewhat different way thereby killing playstyle variety, they removed secondary classes and as such reduced build diversity and last time I played "end-game" dungeons involved everyone stacking in a corner to glitch the encounter or alternatively hitting shit while rolling/dodging. It's an insult to the specific builds, roles and tactics you needed to have in GW1 PvE if you wanted to be successful. Haven't played the expansions, this was back when it was still b2p but I probably will never touch it again.
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>>337344619
Can't wait to have some _fun.
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>>337344930
>there's a counter to mccree stun+revolver instakill combo
>there's a counter to roadhog instant hookstun+shotgun combo
>there's a counter to global wallhack for all your team
>there's a counter to an aimbot

kek

>inb4 the counter is "just don't be there"
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>>337340961
If this were a Nintendo exclusive, /v/ would suck its dick so hard the mods would need for all discussion to be done in /vg/

Look at how much fucking discussion Splatoon got, and that was considerably shit compared to Overwatch. And yet you had threads every 10 minute with "But it's fun" and "You are a squid now" shitposting.

I'm convinced /v/ is either dead inside and no fun, or just angry Nintenyearolds. No doubt Overwatch gets hate.
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>>337344619
>>337344763
>>337345072

You fucking casual pieces of shit are whats killing video games. I hope the game dies in month.
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>>337345107
76 is so easily melted that his ulti gets wasted almost every time if the enemy team isnt getting curbstomped already.

But a good soldier 76 can carry a match. The aimbot is extra icing
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>>337345107
>McCree does suck
>Use Reinhardt's shield. Blocks hooks
>Get good. It's not like it lasts long
>Use Reinhardt's shield. Makes aimbot useless
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>>337345107
>zarya
>zarya
>listen
>listen
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>>337345375
>>McCree does suck

I cant take the opinion of someone seriously who thinks that mcree is shit.
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>>337345452
widowmaker can one shot him

just git gud
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>>337342040
Tou forget it works on older hardware, mark of blizzard games which increases the possible player base.
Good luck running TW3 or DS3 on anything older than 5 years.
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Who best girl here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxGAvi68AXU
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>>337345375
>McCree does suck

>>337345442
>zarya is now everywhere all the time always ready to shield whoever stumble upon a mccree or a roadhog
>knowing the wallhack has been activated now nullifies it and magically stop the ennemy team from getting freekills by preshoting everyone
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>>337345261
Why would having fun kill videogames?

It's like you can't accept that overwatch caters to multiple groups who like fun vidya.
>casuals
>blizzdrones
>gamur grillz

I'm two of these and i enjoy fun games like elder scrolls, fallout, diablo, chess, ddr, pokémon, borderlands, you name it.

Just let people enjoy their games and use your salt to cook some pasta elsewhere.
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>>337340961
I had fun during the beta, but I feel like the game was getting a bit boring. Honesty the game is pretty shallow and designed for casuals.
>No ammo
It is such a basic element in shooters to conserve your ammo. It really encourages holding choke points in this game when you literally sit there spamming never running out of bullets. WTF blizzard it so fucking basic.
>No or very little secondary weapons
>You can not see the scores of other players
There are games I have lost where I have no clue why we didn't win. I did well and I thought everyone on my team did well but apparently not. I will never know who wasn't pulling there weight on the team and also I will never know who was doing most the work on the other team for sure. This is such basic information to give your players but no, blizzard is afraid bullying because they are fucking gay.
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>>337345662
>>there's a counter to an aimbot
three options
if soldier 76 is close you shoot him in the face
if soldier 76 is far you run behind cover
if you have reinhardt you just shield and laugh as his ultimate is wasted
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>>337342095
It's fun without people to play it with too. Of course, everything is more fun to play with people you know, but my whole time in beta was just me, and I had a blast.
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>>337344823
Get got flashbanged by mccree silly
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>>337345753
>if soldier 76 is close you shoot him in the face
You're not going to win a dps race with an aimbot soldier 76 with 90% of the characters. If you're caught off guard you're pretty much dead.

But yeah, it's not the worst. Mainly because it takes a bit of time to activate it.

The reinhart argument is shit though. That's like saying just have a maccree around that will stun him or widow that will kill him. This is not a reliable parameter.
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>>337346034
I don't know how I can explain to you that reinhart being around a point or payload is indeed reliable unless he decided to fuck off and charge to his death.
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>>337340961
le reverse shill to shill tactic
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>>337346034
The closer he is the harder it is to run for cover, but the closer he is the less value his aimbot grants him. It doesn't make him stronger in any way.
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>>337345557
The people who gitted the guddest at the game think he is the nr. 1 top tier character in the game.
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>>337345107
>there's a counter to mccree stun+revolver instakill combo
If he's close to you when you don't want him to be and you're playing a fragile hero, you did something wrong and he did something right. You deserve to die, not every hero has to be able to kill every other hero 1v1. This isn't a TDM game where everyone runs around nearly randomly and just shoots shit.

There are also various immunity/shield abilities that will save you if you're faster than McCree on triggering them. If you're slow just die and stop crying.

>there's a counter to roadhog instant hookstun+shotgun combo
Mei's ice wall, various shields, heroes with lots of health, Lucio's alt fire and probably other shit can save you from that.

>there's a counter to global wallhack for all your team
Listen for it and play defensively, also have some awareness of where Widowmaker herself is to avoid getting killed.

>there's a counter to an aimbot
Hide behind a corner, various shields, D.Va's defense matrix, straight-up focusing 76 since he's squishy as fuck, etc.
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>>337346245
genji can own mccree
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>>337346475
That doesnt mean jackshit if he is overall better
That he is the best doesnt mean he cant have counters.
Do you even know how tier lists work?
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>>337346210
Not really no, having an aimbot at close range is incredibly good as you can just jump around, strafe and move like a retard while having an insane dps and while your ennemy will just miss half their shots.

>>337346182
>there's no a reinhart in both teams in all game
>all fights against mccree or roadhog now happen on a point or a payload with reinhart on it, always.

This isn't even close to the reality mate.
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>>337346557
but tier lists show Mccree at the top
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>>337344619
I had it preordered

Cancelled that preorder after playing beta
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>>337341648
This but some of the characters do offer some variation and excitement. The only one that isn't all about shootum up shit is Winston fucking jump around strategically trying to get kills and avoid people.
BTW played all characters none of them are really unique. D.va is waifu bait and can pull of some interesting moves but still pretty shitty low skill shooter.
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>>337346419
You're incredibly retarded/inexperienced mate.
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>>337341856

> someone will not like thing

strong prediction nostradamus
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>>337342040
>>337342168
>>337342178
>>337344034
>>337345584
G2a, kinguin or allkeyshop

literally 35 euro's
you are welcome
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>>337346732
Do point out how.
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>>337346475
genji doesn't own anybody but low level scrubs unless he has his ult.
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2 gamemodes kek
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>>337342040
40dollars you idiot lol
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>>337345726

You are a cute gamer grill?
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>>337346619
Sorry you might be confused because that mccree or roadhog part isn't relevant to what we were talking about at all. I mean you can tell me these things but I've seen Reinharts in most of the games not to mention I've been both the blocker and a person being blocked during a 76 ult.

So yeah that does make it close to "reality"
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>>337345452
>>337345662
McCree sucks as in. Yes, he is a no skill shitter. He sucks to counter

Not as, McCree as a character sucks and needs no tweaking.
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>>337346768
I don't have the patience sorry, I'm just going to do one.

The very fact that you think knowing where widow is can be a counter to global team wallhack i mean...come on... Do I really need to explain why it's stupid?

I can't be bothered man, really. I'm out.
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>>337340961
I hated it since it was announced, casual SJW game full of disney-esque characters
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>>337346651
Yes and that doesnt contradict what i said.
Which clearly shows that you dont know how tier lists work.
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>>337341410
Lol gets plenty of hate here...
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>>337342469
>shooter on a console
consider suicide
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>>337347089

/v/ hates any game that require skills or talking to people because the majority here are terrible at video games and social interaction. Thats why single player Japanese rpgs are so popular in this shithole.
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>>337347060
I get the Disney characters stuff I was even playing it and the music sounds just like some Disney ride shit
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>>337347021
I said play defensively, if you don't understand what that means in a team oriented game then you are right and there really is no point to this discussion. Go then and be gone.
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>>337342030
I just want less threads, the means to that end is incidental
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>all these moba players coming up with the "counter pick" argument

Do you guys not realize this isn't a fucking moba and this argument makes no sense whatsoever? I mean just think for one second, when the fuck does it end? You pick a counter, then an ennemy pick a counter to your counter etc etc what the fuck? How is that good game design?
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>>337347072
oh missread the comment chain, you were talking to someone else, try not to forget that /v/ isn't one person anon.
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>>337340961
I like the game but since I don't have autism I can understand perfectly well why someone would dislike or even hate it.

The game is incredibly shallow. And I don't mean just the gameplay but the characters as well. Very generic with a few exceptions, very little backstory and no personality.

The game will not be hated on /v/ by the majority because it's also waifubait.
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>>337346732
>literally explains how to counter shit
>gets called retarded and inexperienced

Tell me how moping about "OP characters and abilities" is smarter and shows more experience than knowing how to counter that shit
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>>337347234
That is how matches are played though. They encourage hero switching.

You just sound like "muh main gets killed by X character". OBVIOUSLY. If you don't switch, someone else will do to ensure you die all the time.
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I just wanna play the game.
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>>337347190
Not him but if by "play defensively" you mean not doing anything but backing up until her ultimate ends then it pretty much counters it indeed.

Is implementing an ultimate that forces you to be afk for nearly 20 seconds good game design though?

The real alternative would be to stuck together as a whole team while a support and behind a shield but we all know this isn't really an option in public matches. Which constitute the vast majority of everyone's experience.
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>>337344003
>half of the players will buy the console version

My sides.
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>>337340961
Game is fun but not worth 40$ or €
but also while being fun i dislike the concept of countering other characters is only switching other characters.
Lol and Dota 2 get away with this via items but i don't think Overwatch is going to be played competitively whatever Blizzard pushes it or not.
Just like Heroes of the Storm it will probably have stupid sheep audience making Blizzard stupidly rich
I would probably buy it for 20€ but 40€ for a game with f2p elements is too much.
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>>337341410
>shitloads of classes

All of which have extremely narrow options on how you play them.

>a number of gameplay concepts that aren't even in TF2 which has had 9 years of updates to catch up

Literally half of the mechanics of the game are ripped off from TF2 and the counterparts in Overwatch are that TF2 class for retards.

Like holy shit lmao the Overwatch Engineer only has one building that can be upgraded to max level in 5 seconds and you have literally zero resource management.

>easy to be good against pubbies meaning it feels good, always

Yes, the gameplay is incredibly shallow and every hero has a low skill ceiling.

>no K/D board meaning your team will start actually caring about their roles

Lmao no, people still only really care about getting kills, it still shows rewards for damage done and eliminations at the end of the game.

If anything it hides when someone plays like shit.
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>>337347479
Did you not read my post?

>when the fuck does it end?
>how's constantly switching heroes good game design?

This is a stupid moba mentality that doesn't translate well into an fps simply because there's no bans, pre-match pick options and you can switch all the time.

I can play all classes in TF2 without needed to switch ever. Some classes will be at a slight disadvantage against others but it will always ends up being a duel of aiming and skill. Not fucking cooldown abilities.

If they got rid of all the hacks and stun abilities the game would be about 10 times better.
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>recreate TF2
>add a bunch of waifus and anime characters
>profit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDfPCxVMrY4&feature=youtu.be&t=8

Blizzard are geniuses to be honest families.
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>>337347871
>muh main

Not for you brah
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>>337345107

Holy shit either you played the game for 5 seconds or just suck. There are counters for everything. Use your brain and don't blame the game for you ineptitude.
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>>337347961
You missed that shot bud, I literally never main any character in any game ever.

However, when I want to play a character because I want to see what the character is capable off and what sort of cool tricks I can pull off and learn, I don't enjoy being forced to cheese and play another character I already know and already played for hours simply because someone in the opposing team is playing a specific hero.

I think that's a really lazy shitty game design and so should you.
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>>337345752

You can turn on the kill feed in the options.
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The game is fun but I am NOT going to pay $90 AUD for it! Sorry, but you have to offer more than 5-10 minute 6v6 games with cosmetics to justify that price.
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>>337348072
>says the guy who didn't play the game for more than 15 hours

"Just dodge the hook" incoming in 3...2...1...
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>>337348448

Thank god. The less Australians online the better.
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>>337347234
>Do you guys not realize this isn't a fucking moba and this argument makes no sense whatsoever?
You do realize that Blizzard themselves said that you are meant to pick and change heroes based on the situation, right?
>Master the game within the game as both teams shift strategies and heroes in a constant dance to gain the upper hand.

Changing hero has the disadvantage of resetting your ult to 0 charge. Since most ults are actually very powerful, some consideration is required before switching and losing any built up charge.

>>337347514
>you mean not doing anything but backing up until her ultimate ends
That's a very extreme example. Her ulti is a major advantage, of course (quite a few ults have a huge impact), but just being visible does not mean that the enemy can engage you safely or easily. It depends on the situation very much and I'm not going to spin up some hypothetical situation and answer, but at the very least flankers/heroes that spend time behind enemy lines will generally want to retreat immediately towards their tanks/support and at the same time your team will want to pay extra attention to enemy flankers, who now have exact knowledge of your positions. If they have fast flankers you probably also want to avoid running off by yourself since the enemy will see you and you'll be in much more danger than usual.

Still, if you're in a fairly typical situation with something like Rein pushing the payload or covering a choke, it hardly means that you need to run back to spawn when she ults or you die 100%.
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It's so funny how people say that the game is shallow when they're the shitters that only began playing with open beta with other players that basically don't have much idea how the game works.
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>>337348784
this, the 'shallow' excuse gets thrown around so much and it's so obvious they've hardly played the game and they're just salty that they got rekt by some ultimate
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>>337348960
>>337348784

t. blizzdrone
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>>337347130
Overwatch is designed for casual and console players.

>>337347602
This is their demographic

See that webm? That's literally a 11 yo playing the game on console.
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>>337340961
>I hate this game because it's popular
>When will everyone else hate this game because it's popular?
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>>337348960
Post your playtime.
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>>337348784
>>337348960

>Press Q
>Kill everyone
>Not shallow

Kill yourselves blizz fanboys.
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>>337349245
>implying you weren't great at console shooters as an 11 year old

don't tell me you've been bad since 11 years old anon
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>>337340961

fucking kek, Nostralcuck on suicide watch.

Overwatch is actually good, fuck off.

Thanks for the Overwatch thread though.
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>>337340961

Blizzard-Activtison is trying to sucker in COD kiddies who don't like LoL.

Overwatch is the fucking lovechild of TF2 and LoL and there are better MOBA titles out there.
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>>337349442
>me
>11
>playing console

Anon please.

Also, in case you haven't notice, he hasn't aimed at or shot anyone. He just pressed a button. In the middle of a bunch of scrubs.
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>>337344085
nice reading comprehension retard
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>>337340961
I can't even play this fucking game because I have a shitty Mac computer. And everyone on console is autistic
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>>337348497

Phara can use her knockback grenade to push him away

Junkrat can use his c4 to push both of you away

D-va can pop defence matrix.

Mcree can stun him after the hook.

Lucio can push him away with a sound blast.

Reaper pops his invincibility.

Mei pops her sheild.

Winston can leap out of danger.

I could go on. But you could also be wary of his presence and keep our distance.
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>>337342178
They want to sell the lootboxes at a dollar a pop, and they might also sell skins, which I don't even care about as long as they keep it as a free lootbox every time you level up and not that retarded currency you get for dupes.
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>>337348753
>but just being visible does not mean that the enemy can engage you safely or easily.

Yes it does. Against any decent player it means free headshots the very instant you get out of cover or when they come to get you.

I mean, are you really trying to argue that a *wallhack* doesn't give a huge advantage? Really?

As I said, the only real "counter" is to stick together behind a reinhart with a support around, which isn't going to happen often in regular public matches and shouldn't be taken into account when deciding whether this ability is a good game design or not.
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never

i thoroughly enjoyed it, i bought it, and the only thing i didn't like is the open beta being full of shitters who can't DM that complained about shitty heroes being OP

launch will fix that!
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>>337340961
>/v/ is one person

There are plenty of popular games I enjoy that some people on /v/ do not enjoy. Go fuck yourself and stop stereotyping an entire board.
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>>337349945
Annnndd here we go, as expected, another guy with 0 experience with the game.

It's always the same shit.

So here's an info for you: when roadhog grabs you, you're stunned and will not be able to use any of your ability before he can shoot you with his shotgun.

So here you go bud, I return this comment to you:

>>337348072
>Holy shit either you played the game for 5 seconds or just suck
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>>337349183
>m-muh blizzdrone
I bet you want to play overwatch but your "loyalty" to TF2 won't let you, huh pal?

Vovlodrones are far worst, rather than just filtering OW threads they just come in and shit on everything because their hat simulator is going to die, and they're jealous that OW is getting a pro scene straight out the gate, when compTF2 has been trying for years but no one gives a shit.
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>>337350520

Dude you fucking can use an ability. I've teleported away as tracer a bunch of times.
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>>337350927
That's due to lag/lmao20tick/shit players. Roadhog can shoot+melee before the hooked player can do anything.
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>>337350927
>hurr durr I've teleported in my matches against low levels who have no idea what they're doing hurr durr it's not like they just didn't fire fast enough or anything
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>>337349440
>press Q like a retard
>gets countered by a non-ult
>shallow
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>>337350520
>being this much of a shitter
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>>337342178
There will be microtransaction for the gold currency that you use to unlock cosmetic. During the beta there was an option to buy more gold.
You properly still get a loot box everytime you level up, but the extra option to buy gold is properly a shortcut from the grind. Also it Blizzard so they know how to take as much money from you at possible
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>>337351136
Oh the irony.
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>>337351154
>There will be microtransaction for the gold currency that you use to unlock cosmetic. During the beta there was an option to buy more gold.
The microtransactions will be loot boxes, not currency.
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>>337351035
you're right, but there is a half second if you can time it well and server latency is on your side that you can use an ability, I've pissed off a lot of streetpigs as Genji reflecting the shot.
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>>337347178
>LoL takes skill
>can't carry just fine while ignoring everyone

The only MOBA more casual than LoL is Heroes of the Storm.
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>>337350232
it's true those, this whole board is just me
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So for the people who don't like Overwatch what would make it better exactly?

What is wrong with it? It's shallow, casual, etc. so what did it need to do to please you?
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>>337351259
>but there is a half second if you can time it well and server latency is on your side that you can use an ability

That damage control, kek
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>>337351257
pretty sure they said they'll also sell skins
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>>337351389
>takes skill to avoid
>I'm not even the same guy

How is that even a bad thing though? If you're hooked you engaged the laneswine wrong, but there's still a chance if your reflexes are good.
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>>337351367
Get rid of all the stupid abilities that either give players hacks or take control away from players. Also no more instakill combos and it'll be a decent game.
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>>337345258
Splatoon had at least a new concept. The main gripe is that OW took much from TF2, didn't bring much and is basically a TF2-lite. Sure it is fun, but TF2 is free and funnier.
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>>337351551
By "engaging the laneswine wrong" you mean you saw roadhog on your screen? The hook is practically instant (there's good chance it might be a hitscan)

There's no avoiding it. If he aims well you're hooked. That's all. The only kind of dodging you can do is a preemptive one. Which barely matters because the hook is on a 6 seconds cooldown.
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>>337340961
reverse-psychology blizzdrone detected. wowfags have been the worst cancer on /v/ since its inception, no one wants to fucking hear it you retards have given so much money to this company. overwatch is casual shit, designed for people who have never played a team shooter - it is to team shooters what heroes of the storm was to mobas a shitty cashgrab because duh of course youre gonna buy it AND spend money on micro transactions
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>>337351410
No, all skins which aren't Origins Edition exclusive or pre-order exclusive will be available in loot boxes.
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>>337341903
Tracer is the one thing in this game that makes me interested in it. Most of the character I played are low skill as fuck, and Tracer isn't that much better in that regard, but hot damn you can tell her skill ceiling is insane.

>has a tiny clip
>low damage
>terrible accuracy over any range
>but obviously has insane mobility
>can mask reload clip animation with teleports
>can still aim while teleporting
>can melee then hold down clip for a quasi-BXR
>time travel always refills your clip automatically
>have to manage your crosshair well because you can't aim while time traveling, will always be aiming where you were a few moments ago
>sticky grenade alt encourages you to take huge risks, get in the center of stuff, lay down grenade then time travel out of there

But I kind of suck at shooters so I don't know if I'll be able to hit that ceiling.
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>>337351979
tracers voice makes me want to stab my ears and bomb the UK.
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>>337351827
>There's no avoiding it
how shit are you at this game? You can avoid it, it doesn't have infinite range. You just need to keep your distance and if you do go in be careful and juke. The fact that you're garbage doesn't mean everyone else who plays is as well.
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>>337347765
I never refuted any of those points.
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>>337352352
>another clueless scrub's opinion
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>>337351940
Yeah I know, I'm pretty sure they said at some point that they plan to make it so that the skins that are in the loot boxes can be purchased directly, I didn't say anything about them not being in the loot boxes.
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>>337352472
>avoidable attack is unavoidable
>no ur the scrub
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Mei is bae
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>>337350520
Stop getting hooked. Pay attention to your surroundings.

People say git gud to anyone who's too lazy or blind to see that they aren't putting in the minimum required amount of effort.
If you're not going to put in effort then stop playing.
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I think the time to start hating overwatch for getting popular is really long gone
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>>337350520

It's now always a 1 shit kill. Shit but with your defeatist attitude you probably stand there and let him insert it up your ass.
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>>337351827
It is hitscan, and it has a long range. The range, however, is not infinite and the cooldown is a decent length. Going at him two at a time is more than enough to take him out. A Mei and one other works crazy well.
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>>337340961
Half of /v/ hates Overwatch.
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I already hate it but I hope this game attracts all the retards and the good fps get their communities back.
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I just don't see how MOBAs have such lasting appeal since it's just constant pvp with nothing else other than a few map changes. All the kids at work talk about are MOBA games. It's pretty depressing if this is the future of video games.
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>>337352738
>>337352641
>>337352967
>proceed to educate a clueless scrub on the game mechanic he clearly knows nothing about
>hurr durr stop getting hooked you scrub

Cool posts anons but moving the goalpost from me saying this is shitty game design in a shooter to me suddenly getting magically owned by every roadhog (apparently) won't really get you anywhere.

>>337353039
The cd is 6s, which is pretty much one of the shortest cd in the entire game. Just saying. As far as I remember the only abilities with a shorter cds would be mercy,winston and D.va "dashes"

Again, I know following a discussion is really really hard but I'm not asking for shitty advices on how to deal with roadhog since I obviously know more about him then most of the disgusting casuals in this thread (this place has gone to shit btw).

This is me saying this instakill combo is insanely easy to pull off and a really shitty mechanic in a shooter. I played roadhog for more than 7 hours, I know what the fuck I'm talking about.
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>>337353805

It's a fine mechanic that isn't op
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>>337353805
do you really think roadhog is too strong or something? because good players seem to disagree
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>>337340961
Over half of /v/ hates this game already because
>hurr waifus
>20 tick
>blizzard
>autoaim
>wallhacks
>lock on everything
>lmao what is skill

You're fucking retarded.
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>>337355237
bull fucking shit, hanzo was picked all the fucking time, only legit 3% is zenyetta
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>>337340961
Overwatchâ„¢ is literally the best game that's ever been made.
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>>337340961
By playing victim you're giving them license to hate you more.

Nice going, nu liberal cuck. You'd think as smart as they think they were, white people would catch on to this.
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>>337355548
I hate it because I don't know why it isn't banned here. It's already released, it's been out for a while and there's at least 10 threads opened at the same time talking about it non stop. This is exactly why /vg/ exists.
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>>337355731
>It's already released
wrong
>This is exactly why /vg/ exists.
/vg/ exists due to long-term spam of already released games

wait a few weeks with complaining
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>>337355571
this if for pro players, not rando pubs, hanzo is just a worse widow and good players don't get hit by his ult
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>>337343387
>arena shooter
You mean "Casual Waifu Simulator"?
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Anyone got the time?
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>>337357047
It's hammer time!
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Well lets see, how long did SC2, D3, post WotLK expansions, and HotS last? About maybe a week or less. HotS didn't last a day.

I don't count Hearthshit because it's mobile baby crap like Clash of Clans. Blizzard should just stick to mobile games.
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>>337340961
I've already seen hate for it but it doesn't matter to me because it boils down to 'stop liking what I don't like'
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>>337342040
>10 maps

Feels like 5.
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>>337344619
I preordered the collector's edition
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Roadhog hook takes no skill to land. Im not saying he's OP, just saying it's a stupid mechanic , The hitbox on that thing takes up fucking 80% of the screen

Same thing with McCree's flash bang, No skill at all, Instantly kill anyone who gets close to you

These types of mechanics have no place in an FPS.
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>>337342984
THIS
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>>337344619
I'm waiting for someone to get tired of it and buy a box second hand
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>>337340961
Where have you been? The poor fags have been hating this game ever since they heard it wasn't free. It's actually really cute all of these "The game sucks so much, I'd only play it if it was free." posts.
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>>337344619
The sad fact is starpoll shows that a lot of /v/ already bought/going to buy it.
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>>337351579
Everything can be prevented instantkill wise, you just gotta learn the game.
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>>337346034
okay lets see a dps race.

>Mei can wall and freeze it off close quarters.
>MCCree kills literally anyone you don't have to stun if you aren't shit at fan.
>Genji reflect and left shift will be enough to waste it or to LoS it
>roadhog kills him
>Junkrat bomb left shift kills him instantly.
>Honzo inside of a room wins outside of that you gotta get that head shot first hit
>Tech support Death room kills him
>Reaper out does him and still has his left shift to a healing pot
>Tracer gets away
>Zarya absorbs and kills him
>reinhardt shield wins
>D.va is a garbage reaper, I don't know maybe she could.
>Bastion of course wins

Well then guess I threw your shit out the window huh?
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>>337349440
>Dying to some random guy pressing Q because you have a reaction speed of a turtle

Okie dokie.
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>>337341892
one of these things is not like the others
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>>337340961
I like overwatch, so much so that i bought origins edition during the beta. i will play it a lot, i also pre-purchased digital deluxe edition of legion, no joke. i literally buy everything blizzard make, i don't even play starcraft and i still buy the expansion. what the fuck is wrong with me? i can't control myself anymore.
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>>337341410
csgofag here and I love it. it's the tf2fags that are being bootyblasted into the next dimension.
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>>337357460
Depends on what you mean by "last" really. In D3 and SC2 you can easily go online and immediately find people to play with, so I'd say they're lasting still. No idea about WoW, haven't touched it after TBC.
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>>337361747
>it's the tf2fags that are being bootyblasted into the next dimension
I don't think so, what made me want to try OW in the first place were the TF2 elements it has.
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YOU GUYS are high or dumb as fucbois because overwatch will not ever get as popular as LoL or CS
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I like it.
If you care what other people think, then you'd never do anything.
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