Nightly 40K thread lads
>no games centered around being a Imperial Guardsmen fighting the horrors of the 40K universe against all odds
Why is it always Spess Muhreens?
>>337328861
Spess Muhreens are great.
Because an IG is just a dude, and 40K is full of Forever War Mary Sue bullshit. Muhreens at least stand a chance.
>>337328861
>>337330247
I like both pretty well. Some Chapters are better than others though.Salamanders for life.
>>337328861
>tfw no IG management game where you play as a Commisar
>can't BLAM all day everyday since everyone might go mutiny
>if you don't BLAM enough your guardsmen becomes faggots
Has any chapter had it as rough as the Lamenters?
>>337328861
>no stealth game like splinter cell where you play as imperial assassin sneaking into ork encampments to kill warboss.
>no third person shooter where you play as tau battlesuit commander turning the tide of an invasion.
>no game like nintendogs where you can feed and pet an adeptus sororitas
>>337328861
>no howling banshee game made by platinum
I want to press every button to scream violently and look at sexy banshee ass.
>No rpg where you start as a chaos cultist and murder/scheme/fuck/shit your way to Daemon princehood.
>No rpg where you're an ork Boy slowly massing a big enough horde to unleash a proper WAAAGH!!! with you as the warboss.
>No rpg where you start as a Space Marine initiate and climb your way to Veteran Status while specialising in an aspect of warfare with your squad.
>No Twisted Metal like game where you're an ork Nob fighting other ork Nobs with your crew on a giant, customisable trukk.
>No survival horror where you're one of the various races trying to escape Commoragh.
>No 40k Battlefront (in the style of Battlefront 2)
>>337331934
What if it's a male banshee?
>>337332881
That's pretty rare and as long as it's still sexy banshee ass I don't care.
>>337328861
Because a properly done Imperial Guardsmen game would be as boring as Dice making a properly made WW1 game.
>>337328861
I just want Red Orchestra 2 with IG vs Lost and Damned
Why are 40k threads always more fun and interesting the less Eldar lore is discussed?
The biggest problem with making an IG shooter is how the fuck would you make that?
In battles against actual imperial enemies like the Eldar or the Orks or the Tau or god forbid the Dark Eldar, the Tyranids or the Necrons, Imperial Guards last a grand total of an hour on the field maybe.
You have five foot something dudes in flack armor and lasers in a world where 8 foot tall super human god machine soldiers bred from the sperm of god aren't even that great in a battle against bigger enemies.
You'd have to make a game where you control an entire platoon, or a game where the moment you die you rapidly change to a new NPC.
That would actually be really cool now I think about it, imagine you get a randomly generated Guardsman or Guardswoman with a randomly generated backstory and family history, you get attached to them and you then have to watch as a Tyranid violently mauls the thing and eats your guard-waifu alive, before the camera whips around to the nearest NPC and thats your new Guard character with their own new backstory, face and family.
>>337333451
Funny, it's the opposite for me.
>total war Warhammer game comes out
>it's not 40k
>you will never fight a brutal campaign on Istvaan V
>you will never unleash exterminatus on an unsuspecting planet of heretics
>>337333472
>or a game where the moment you die you rapidly change to a new NPC.
Which battlefield 2 on xbox did
>>337333451
Because Eldar lore it takes itself way to seriously. There's no dark humor in it, no hypocritical doctrines, no tragically underpowered fodder units. It's dry and painfully dull shit. Anything even approaching those things is woefully half baked.
If you like reading about how Eldar are super old and wise, and how their so powerful, and that they're cool space ninjas that are way better than everyone, then it would probably appeal to you.
But getting through the codexes are just a long slog of "the Eldar are really awesome guise, please take them seriously"
What games give me the full rogue trader experience?
>>337333472
You seem to forget the Imperial Guard are fighting things like the Orks and the Nids all the time, all over the galaxy, and the Imperium is still around. The Imperium Guard may be a lot of normal humans in a galaxy of horrors, but they still do their job damn well, and not just by dying in massive numbers. There are Guardsmen who are action heroes, and survive countless battles and the like, and there are a few Guardsmen companies that are complete and total badasses. I mean look at the Catchan Jungle Fighters, they are just Imperial Guardsmen, but are some of the hardest motherfuckers around, surviving on a motherfucking Death World and fight Orks regularly while wearing even LESS than a normal Guardsmen.
And don't even get me started on the Steel Legion or the Cadians. Sure the average Guardsman is fodder, but don't even think an IG shooter wouldn't be the sickest shit, because theres plenty of material to work with to MAKE it the sickest shit.
>>337333472
When you die, you instantly switch to a new soldier until everyone is dead, like BF2: MC or ArmA.
The gameplay against CSM, for example would be focused on manoeuvring around them to get a shot on a gap in their armour.
>>337333451
Nobody likes discussing the power level of boring space elves with a shit aesthetic.
>>337333989
They are way too arrogant for the position they are in, lose craftworlds all the time. They can't have canon fodder units because of their small numbers, but have the whole dying-race thing going on. Every codex sells their own race like they are the best and the only funny race I can think of are the Orks and the fuck-ups of the Tau.
Though I can see where you are coming from and it all boils down to taste. Personally I get bored to death by reading how 20 mighty and powerful space marines once took a whole planet down because they are so mighty and powerful.
>>337328861
Because nobody wants to play as disposable mook with shit weapons, or as piece of terrain.
>>337333451
>Look at those filthy other species, look at them slap mud at each other, god they are so stupid, unlike us
>Theres a serious threat coming, but I won't tell you what it is but still get mad at you for not knowing what it is and actively trying to stop us from stopping said threat
>Were going to slaughter thousands of people for a single one of our soulgems. No we wont ask for it back and explain it's importance, you monkeys should just never have touched it to begin with.
>We are going to kill you and all your allies, we know you're in the middle of fighting Chaos/Orks/Necrons, but were going to kill you all anyway and fight them ourselves, because we can do it better
>You are stupid, you are stupid, you are stupid. And let us not forget that, you are stupid!
Eldar in a nutshell
>>337334315
I don't disagree anon, I agree a lot.
The reason the only army I ever built and painted is the Imps is because they're so so so much more fucking awesome then nearly all the other factions in the lore, the problem is what makes a guard company good isn't its individuals its how well the company functions as a whole.
A game about a lone guardsmen would suck shit through a straw, the game needs to be about the whole team, their relationship, the skills as a group and should incorperate shit like tank columns and air support.
An IG shooter would be the mother fuckin' tits but I want to see it done right.
Take into consideration we're only just now this year finally getting a 40k FPS in general that looks halfway decent with Space Hulk.
>Every 40k thread has at least one person suggesting a game of about playing guardsmen in a last stand fight.
Nothing sounds more fun than bullet sponge horde mode, am I right?
WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
>>337334315
the perspective is all fucked up in this picture, that sentinel is like the size of a warhound titan.
>>337333472
I think it could work as a survival horror game. A lone special forces guardsmen trying to survive the horrors of invasion from several different factions.
>>337334829
Im an Ork boy myself, but I do like the IG, but again, you could easily have an IG game involving a small company rather than, as so many people suggest "A lone Guardsman in a last stand, hold the line, death is inevitable fight" The majority of IG wars never come to that, because the majority of the time the IG do their job and win a battle. There could be an IG shooter where you follow a single IG as he fucks shit up right proper, like a smaller scale Yarrick. It's true that the company as a whole is what makes the IG great, but a single Guardsman can be a legend as well.
>>337335050
Yeah but guards, hell even Kasrkin are fucking useless on their own, Lasrifles don't do shit unless there is enough of them, though I'd be willing to ignore that oversight in favor of the rule of awesome, if the game does a good job.
Could cut it all out and make it a catachan just so we can have guards strong enough to wield bolters.
Battlefield Gothic nailed the 40K atmosphere very well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INPgubrPpZg
>Some may question my right to destroy a world of 10 billion souls
>But those who truely understand realize I have no right to let them live
>No sacrifice is too great, no treachery too small
>>337335306
Someone should explain what a phyrric victory is to the imperium.
>>337335420
Ten billion souls is a drop in the bucket to the Imperium. Manpower is the greatest resource to the Imperium, because they have it in abundance.
>>337335420
>phyrric victory
still victory
>>337335420
>>337335560
The context of the quote is a planet that has been infested by heresy. All experience tells the Inquisition that you pretty much can't root out Chaos completely once it has taken hold on a planet. Even if you put down the uprising and put everyone who are even remotely suspected to the sword, herey will still flourish below the surface and emerge again.
>>337335306
>losing an Emperor class battleship to a single Ork Pirate ship.
Is it possible to be any more of a useless fucking heretic?
>>337335306
Fifteen Orks on a dead man’s hulk,
Lookin’ down the barrel of a gun,
Gruntin’ to each other
through big, sharp teeth,
Sayin’ “This one’ll give us some fun”
Fourteen Orks on a humie’s ship,
Killin’ anything that isn’t green,
Gruntin’ to each other
through big, sharp teeth,
Sayin’ “Times be getting’ lean”
Thirteen Orks with the Captain’s chest,
Hopin’ to quench their greedy thirst,
Gruntin’ to each other
through big, sharp teeth
Sayin’ “I was da wun dat saw it first”
One lone Ork left to steal the loot,
Wishin’ it hadn’t turned out so,
Gruntin’ to itself
through big, sharp teeth
Sayin’ “I shoulda let the pilot go
>>337335906
>People have different opinions
>"HURR DURR KILL THEM ALL, FOR THE EMPORER!!!!!!!"
This is why I prefer the Eldar.
>>337334832
>red orchestra
Who was the ultimate banter master in Dark Crusade? Elpihas or Gorgutz?
>>337336183
>>337333619
>>337333031
>>337331934
>Eldar shitters contaminating this thread
You faggots shit your pants in fear over the presence of ONE of these guys.
>>337336489
>those guys scaring DEldar
>>337336489
To be fair, everyone does.
But getting abducted by DEldar would be pretty much the scariest thing.
>>337328861
Because average military chodes fighting monsters is what every other fucking game does nowadays, and 40K can easily distinguish itself through Space Marines.
>>337336546
>Culexus assassins are anti-psyker pariahs that block any form of psyker magic and physically harms a psyker with their presence the closer they are.
Sure thry probably wont piss their pants like normal, pussy Eldar...but they'd die the same.
>>337336781
Or Orks.
I'd like an Ork game. Maybe something involving a team of Kommandos being reeeeal sneaky like.
>>337336909
>normal, pussy Eldar
A common misconception stemming from knowing nothing about Eldar. They fucking love fighting to the point that She Who Thirst might eat their soul if they enjoy it too much.
>>337336489
>>337336546
>>337336661
>>337336909
Daily reminder that two Eldar Harlequins slew dozens of Custodes before being captured.
>>337337152
>They fucking love fighting to the point that She Who Thirst might eat their soul if they enjoy it too much.
Which is what happened to the first Striking Scorpion, meaning the Phoenix Lord of the Scorpion Temple is actually the second to walk the path of the Scorpion unlike all the other Lords. There were hints that he went to the Dark Eldar and became the first Incubi but that fluff predates the Deldar getting their long awaited codex so it might not be true any more.
>>337336386
>>337337312
Actual Necron banter.
>>337337257
It's never really been canon that Custodes are super unstoppable badasses though.
It was just generally assumed because you'd think the bodyguards to the Emperor would be the hardest bastards in existence.
Besides, Harlequins (and especially Shadowseers) have always been asskickers on a whole other level.
>>337337435
>>337337512
>Implying the Necrons stopped being kings.
Yo guys are we cool yet
>>337337512
WUZ ORGANIC'S N' SHIEEET SENPAI!
WE WUZ ALSO SPACE KANGS!
>>337337598
>Be Tau
>Invite Necrons over for tea
>>337337549
I have a stupid question. Can any Eldar become a Harlequin like they can become an aspect warrior?
>>337337598
Depends on if you like weeabo/communist fusions.
>>337337598
You're just mad that we got a game before IG
>>337337378
>>337337435
"We’s stomped ’umies, we’s blown up stuff and we’s driven our traks from one end of da world to da uvva. We’s gonna come back next year!" -Bugsplatta Defnik of the Red Wheelz Speed Freeks
>>337337598
At least your aesthetic is better than the Eldar.
>>337337671
Sucks to be him.
>>337337598
>Be Tau
>Get outsmarted by Orks during the Waaagh of Dakka
>>337337671
>"you will not be reaching out your hand to anything ever again"
>he proceeds to cut off that guys hand
What a dick.
Didn't he do the same thing to some Black Templar, too? The guy just hates hands.
>>337337598
Ya got cool gear, but you're really putting yourselves into a shitty situation.
>>337337805
Everyone gets outsmarted by the orks.
>>337337805
Name three things that aren't the war of Dakka.
>>337337672
>implying it was a bad idea to treat with the Necrons especially when they have a giant armada above your planet.
The Overlord in that event was in a bad mood so he didn't show mercy.
>>337337868
Boyz
Nobz
The Library of Alexandria
>>337337868
The Octarius War
Tuska vs the Eye of Terror
The War of Dakk-GORK DAMN IT
>>337337910
When he is in a passable mood he might show mercy.
>>337337910
What an asshole.
Even the Eldar will give you a day or so to evacuate (sometimes).
>>337337842
Name one example of Eldar being outsmarted by Orks.
You can't.
>>337337731
>The best means of Attack is Defence, an' the best means of Attack is a really really Big One, right, with lots of Boys an' dead big shooty things an' what have ya. -legendary Ork Smartboy Derek Zog
>>337338026
Name one example of the Eldar outsmarting anybody.
What will the Necrons do, once the Tyranids eat everything there is and GTFO out of The Galaxy to eat something else?
>>337338026
They are more populace than the Imperium of man, and they don't spend any time brooding and gloomy.
The Orks very existence is outsmarting the Eldar
>>337333472
Why not just a game where you keep scraping by barely managing to survive during a SHTF moment to put the enemies in perspective.
>>337337691
Even Dark Eldar can. Though the process is not really clear to me, which isn't suprising because it's supposed to be a secret, you just need to wander a bit through the webway to maybe find the black library, where the Harlequinns come from. If you can survive their training or not get eaten by Slaanesh, you can become one, but probably never leave this path like an aspect warrior.
>>337337990
Necrons are actually obligated to offer warning and ample time for their enemies before attacking but only to those they consider somewhat worthy.
>>337338026
Literally every time the eldar get into a fight with orks they are being outsmarted
>muh dying race
>vs a race that reproduces by dying
>>337338026
How about the time the entire Ork race proved themselves better than the Eldar?
>>337338026
>The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn? And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn't even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude.
>by Uthan the Perverse, a controversial Eldar philosopher
>>337338069
The Baran War
>>337332881
they morph into a girl when they take on the armor
>>337338186
>>337338158
One Orkaabo proves nothing.
>>337338137
Why would you ever want to leave the Harlequinns? They are like, the only Eldar not getting shit on around the clock and not resorting to hypersadism to survive.
>>337338069
2nd war of Armageddon
>>337338219
Are you an Ork? Cause you just looted those goal posts.
>>337338219
Nigga, it's an Eldar, a freaking Eldar, admitting to their own failures and saying the Orks are better. Thats like a Japanese history teacher teaching about the Rape of Nanking.
So the greater daemons.
Bloodthirsters are giant beasts or war that carries large weapons and great strength to cause blood and more blood.
Great Unclean Ones are like basically the visa ge of Nurgle himself and spreads plague and disease where ever their fat ass takes them.
Lords of Change are large bird like creatures that can see into the future and can see the moves their enemy makes before they make them.
And the Keeper of Secrets. They can?
>>337338137
>you just need to wander a bit through the webway to maybe find the black library, where the Harlequinns come from. If you can survive their training or not get eaten by Slaanes
Oh fuck, I didn't know that.
I thought they'd be the best ''aspect'' to join because I don't think the Dark Eldar fuck with em, every now and then the laughing god tries to save their souls if they do die and the laughing god seems like a pretty chill guy.
>>337338370
MAKE
NEW
HOLES
TOfug
>>337338370
>And the Keeper of Secrets. They can?
Make prudish mothers worry about what little Timmy has gotten himself into.
I remember when they started censoring the demonette blister packs because people complained about the tits being exposed to kids in the stores.
>>337338370
It's classified.
>>337338261
>Why are all these guys standing on my basilisk platform?
>Can't they see I'm trying to load here?
>I wish I had a voxbox installed so I could tell them to move
>My feet hurt
>I wish I was back on Vostroyan, it's too damn hot here
>>337338370
Keeper of Secrets have the face of Slaanesh when the Keeper was made, and they seek sensations of the highest degree. You have to give them a bit of lee way, because it's kind of hard to weaponize Slaanesh outside of Noise Marines.
>>337338406
>the laughing god seems like a pretty chill guy.
He is and probably the Eldars only real hope.
>>337338232
Yeah, there is no reason to. Why would anyone stop being a jolly murder clown and fight for the whole of Eldardom without the danger of losing your soul?
>>337338219
>survived the War in Heaven
>where Necrons and C'tan were at their absolute prime
>survived the Enslavers
>survived the galaxy filled with god knows how many horrors
>thrived and expanded to untold trillions
>still a numerous and exceptional threat to everyone
>have a ball of a time since the birth of their race
>mfw
No matter if they did or did not outsmart Eldar, Orks sure are in a better place.
>>337338594
Jobs a good un' boss
>>337338586
>Why would anyone stop being a jolly murder clown
Fear of becoming stuck on a single path which a lot of Eldar fear because they worry it will lead them down an obsessive path that Slaanesh lays at the end of.
>>337334647
>implying i don't want to play as a piece of terrain
>>337337971
so can anyone name a good necron book?
>>337338101
necrons would destroy most of them before that happens.
>>337338843
>Fail your leadership roll
>have to wait 20,000 years for tectonic action to allow you to withdraw.
>>337338815
>an obsessive path that Slaanesh lays at the end of.
But Cegorach protects you from that.
So I don't understand.
Can Necrons feel feelings or what?
They show honour towards enemies in some cases such as
>>337338140
>>337337971
>>337339017
That's not guaranteed.
>>337339035
Newcrons, anon, they now have personalities and, as you said, feelings.
>>337339035
Those under the Silent King are essentially anti-heroes now.
Their purpose is to stop the Tyranids from devouring all life.
>>337339096
Sorry, never read about that. I know that Eldar Solitaire are basically lost to Slaanesh, but Cegorach will fight xir for their soul.
It has been years since I followed any kind of 40K lore.
Are Chaos still doing their black Crusade thing?
I like this part
>>337339017
>But Cegorach protects you from that
Soul stones and infinity circuits can protect you from Slaanesh as well. As can an exodite world spirit.
Being a harlequin would fucking suck. You have to fight all the godamn time, but you can't just switch to another path like a craftworld Eldar can. And you don't get mad pussy and crazy drugs like the Dark Eldar. You basically just go around fighting Chaos sorcerers and sickass daemons.
>>337339282
He'll fight, sure, and his win record is probably good but he can't win them all otherwise the Eldar would have a lot less to worry about when it comes to Slaanesh.
>>337339380
What's this from?
>>337339503
Fire Warrior game novelization
>>337335306
>That youtube 40k joke video tier "animation"
How is this allowed?
>>337339658
wanna know what kind of Marine was talking to the Tau?Ultramarine Captain
>>337339380
>live in a world with demons, psychic elves and ancient robot zombies
>"lol why would your worship a corpse thats so weird"
I never understand why it's so fucking hard for Tau/Eldar/Necrons to realize that he's not quite dead.
>>337339409
>You basically just go around fighting Chaos sorcerers and sickass daemons
I see nothing wrong with that.
>>337339838
Because the Tau don't know about demons, psychics or ancient robot zombies. I am not even sure how a Tau would know about the Emperor, or his condition, unless he heard it off a Chaos Marine
>>337340000
checked
>>337338323
Nothing about the Orks outsmarting the Eldar. He is just one guy that the rest of hi race disagree with.
What you are praising is the words of the SJW Eldar.
>>337338284
The goalpost is in the same place. Find an event where the Orks outsmarted the Eldar.
You can't.
>>337339838
>I never understand why it's so fucking hard for Tau/Eldar/Necrons to realize that he's not quite dead.
They aren't bombarded with imperial propaganda from childhood onwards.
>>337339903
Yeah, but if I'm an Eldar soldier and I had to go to war against some hardcore Chaos marines, I'd want to be backed up by my buddies in the Dark Reapers and Howling Banshees.
Harlequins go to war and their backup is Jeff the Slaanesh cosplayer.
>>337339236
>anti-heroes now.
Not really.
Defeating the Tyranid is just a part of their quest to enslave the galaxy.
>>337340000
>I am not even sure how a Tau would know about the Emperor, or his condition
Are you same guy who claimed to have read the novel? The Imperials doesn't hide the fact that the Emperor is a corpse. Kais entered an Imperial an Imperial church and saw a painting of the Emperor a a corpse on a throne.
>>337340050
>Find an event where the Orks outsmarted the Eldar.
What about when Bludflagg beat the snot out of Autarch Kayleth?
>>337340105
You forget that they have mastered the webway and can get in and out of trouble faster than the other Eldar.
>>337340137
Biological reproductive circumstance =/= cognitive performance
>>337340285
Oh really? I never knew that. I have always just assumed that Imperium propaganda dictate that the Emperor is still in good condition on his throne.
>>337340326
Not canon.
Blood Ravens campaign is the canon one considering that Gab is alive and is chapter master.
>>337340387
>The complex shape caught at his eye and he found himself staring in fascination, trying to decipher the stylised effigy. It seemed to comprise a withered shape, desiccated and frail. He realised with a frown that it was a gue’la figure, almost corpselike in its aspect. Its great papery head — ringed by serried light rays and lightning bolts, hung in limp necrosis, sallow features wrinkled and bloodless. Around and within the skeletal shape was a stylised machine encrusted with yellow and gold mosaic tiles, a rambling arrangement of clustered cables and bound tubing, puncturing and entombing the body, surrounding it in a metallic embrace.
>The cadaver’s eyes peered down into the candlelit chapel with a great, hollow sadness, filling the chamber with mournful tension
>Was this their god? he wondered. Was this their Great Emperor, stubbornly hoarding the faith of his teeming flock and preventing their rightful acquiescence to the Greater Good? A rotting, pestilent corpse ruling over his rotting, pestilent empire. Kais fought to contain his revulsion, regarding the statue blankly. They deserved each other.
-From the Fire Warrior novel
Your Emperor a shit, Gue'la, and so is your race.
>>337340443
And the Ork campaign doesn't interfere with that because the Ork campaign is simply about getting a hat off an Inquisitor and trying to get back into space.
>>337333472
well you could be pdf or even ig small platoon sent in at the behest of an inquisitor to fight some cultists in a hive. Youd come upon many wierd creatures, crazed human bandits, gangers and cultists as well. maybe the occasional nid or warband but nothing that couldnt be handled/stealthed by emperors finest.
>>337340567
Ya git, I'm a Boy frew and frew
>tfw no ork vidya
Anyone of you read the Ravenor trilogy?
Was 'magic' ever used in anything else? I liked the of it a lot.
>>337340969
>No Kult o' Speed racing game
>You're a Mekboy
>Shitload of option to build your own kustom vehicle
>Can go from a simple bike to a full on battlewagon
>Not only must you go as fastah as possible, but you also need to stomp your konkurence
>Red actually make your kustom vehicle fastah
>>337341214
>'magic'
Isn't that just another name for using psychic/warp powers? Like how there are Chaos Sorcerers which are just a type of psyker.
>>337341683
I need this.
>>337341683
>No Ork racing game with Orky racing items that has a multiplayer of like fifty players so it's a complete clusterfuck of a race with explosions and chaos everywhere and barely anyone being able to finish the actual race as the racers are too busy trying to krump each other
>>337341715
Have you read the novels?
The bad guy found some ancient ruins with 'magic' words. If you utter them you can affect the physical world in some way. There are words that make you sick and words that push you around. I don't think they had anything to do with the warp.
>>337341715
Chaos Sorcerors aren't psykers, they are using actual, wizards n pointy hats, magic. The problem is magic and sorcery is the realm of Tzeentch, so you're playing a very risky game, where your opponent already knows how it ends.
>>337341214
I read them. If you mean the Unwords, I guess they're just the language of the Warp, they alter the reality of things, all magic is explained in 40k.
>>337328861
yeah, because that would be a really depressing game.
>>337336046
How in the fuck was anyone able to decifer that
>>337341972
>Have you read the novels?
Not in a very long time. I can't remember jack nor shit about them.
>>337341869
>>337341683
>Throw squigs at enemy cars
>>337342010
>they are using actual, wizards n pointy hats, magic
that is bullshit; because it is something anyone with the proper education can do and it is entirely understood, it is science.
>>337342187
They didn't, it was a song in some book.
>>337341214
Should've looked it up before posting:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Enuncia
It seems to be a Abnett exclusive kind of thing.
>>337341683
>>337341869
I would pay good money for this.
>>337328861
why do they look russian
>>337342224
>Throw bomb squigs at enemy trukks
>Throw face eating squigs at enemy trukks
>Whip out your big shoota and riddle everything infront of your with holes
>Whip out your big choppa and chop up any gits close enough to you
>Whistle for some Lootas to shoot up the gits up front and then snatch their ride
>Call down a Burna Bomma run and clear out the grots all about
>Whistle in for a Squiggoth to stomp some gits
>If you're a Weirdboy, call on the powers of the Waaagh! to blow the heads of a bunch of gits around you
>The penultimate item would be to call up a WAAAGH!!! and every racer just gets a huge speed boost but with very little control improvement
>>337342559
There was a failed Gorkamorka game being developed for the Dreamcast but it never saw production.
>>337342747
They are based on Cossacks
>>337328861
>no games centered around the interesting lore
I blame GM thinking only Spess muhrrinees will sell.
That and PG 13 everything so The one who thirsts can't be in fucking anything and that big fucking lumbering asshole Khorne represents all chaos forever
>>337342448
Abnett adds plenty of stuff that don't quite 'fit' with the rest of the setting - it's part of the reason why a lot of his work (like Gaunts Ghosts) goes downhill after a bit. You can tell he just doesn't like certain aspects of the setting and instead does his own thing.
>>337342884
Cossacks + Strelet Army with a pinch of Polish names.
>>337342818
>At the end of each race you get a skore for your output of dakka
>You always lose point because there's never enuff dakka
>>337328861
Because IG is fucking boring and is just like any other real army. It's like asking for a storm trooper game. Nobody gives a shit and if people are going to play as the average soldier they usually would rather play as a real one in a real army that really existed.
>>337342887
Good thing GM has pretty much given free run with their liscenses in terms of video games. We just need one hopeful fellows to pop up with games NOT revolving around Space Marines/Imperium shit.
>>337342895
He better let them fight something else than Chaos soon or I will stop buying his books. If you replace a few words some of the Gaunt's Ghosts books could be straight WWII ficition.
>>337339712
Because they are a poor and small studio of 10 nerds paid with hotpockets who sold their kidneys to make a game about 40k. You gotta cut corners somewhere.
>>337343117
>IG is fucking boring and is just like any other real army
>>337343159
Impossible. If there is any Warhammer vidya that doesn't involve Khorne and Sphess marines
I.E give spotlight time to Nurgle and Slaneesh than GW revokes the license.
>>337343159
I'd buy that shit twice just to encourage them to make more of it.
>>337342895
Gaunts Ghosts is set in the Sabbat worlds crusade. He can't just shove in another enemy willy nilly
>>337343168
I stopped reading at something like the 10th book. Traitor General was the absolute worst.
>hey this guy is gonna spill all the crusades secrets
>should we send one of the highly trained and incredibly lethal assassinorum agents that exist for circumstances just like this?
>lol no send some guardsmen
>mfw
>>337343328
That's literally a shitty version of every war painting ever, not sure what you're trying to say here. Might want to get some culture.
>>337343339
>I.E give spotlight time to Nurgle and Slaneesh
This gets so fucking idotic that at this point MORE THEN ONCE Khorne sorcerer's have been a thing
KHORNE SORCEERE'S
That and the best chaos god, she who thirsts, is barely featured in anything.
>>337343406
I've only read the first omnibus, but does that actually happen?
>>337343353
Where there is war there are orks. A few ork battles would be nice.
Instead it turned into some special mission shit that would be more fitting to a small band of elite soldiers instead of a whole regiment.
>>337343353
>He can't just shove in another enemy willy nilly
>dark eldar assassin hired by chaos forces to kill the saint
>a deadly killer straight off the streets of Commoragh
>gets tricked and killed by some scout sergeant
So he adds in a xeno enemy just to show how cool and badass and amazing his donut steel is.
>>337333976
>imagine if life could be as bullshit as the orky way of life
>connecting wings to a car would turn it into a plane so long as it was red
>as long as the dishwasher worked you could travel through wormholes
>>337330467
One time the whole blood angels chapter went on one space hulk and it blew up
>>337343554
Yeah. In that same book, Gaunt survives a sword fight with a Chaos space marine, right before it's killed by a bunch of tribals with cross bows.
Shit was fucking dumb.
>>337343339
Anon, GW is letting shitty vaporware, phone games and bullshit chess games be official licensed games, they dont give a shit, oddly enough, they are letting pretty much anyone make anything they want, and hoping something sticks well.
I mean look at DoW3, not a inkling of Chaos so far, just Marines, Eldar and Orks.
>>337334089
the tabletop one
>>337343727
what's their rationale?
>want to live in 40k world but know i wouldn't last more than a few minutes
>>337343760
>not a inkling of Chaos so far, just Marines, Eldar and Orks.
Good.
>>337343554
Yes, though I quite liked the book even if it's a retarded premise.
They later somehow return from that chaos world and want to get back into the regiment and the Inquisition is like: 'hell, no! you guyses were like more than a year on a chaos infested world!' and Gaunt be like: 'lol I'ma do it anyway' and everyone just went with it.
>>337343880
nice meme
>>337343792
For only sending Gaunt and some of the ghosts?
It's because Gaunt was the one who arrested the traitor in the first place (before he joined chaos). He even gets asked by another general why he wants to go and he just says "Because it's him" or some stupid bullshit.
>>337331934
And I really want you to become a millionaire investor because I need those flying red manes and firm asses and sexy screams in my life.
>>337343723
>it blew up
Which one was that? I know they got curb stomped down to 50 marines left in the whole chapter from the Sin of Damnation but if a second fuckup happened I will shit my pants with laughter. Fucking Blood Angels.
Let's make a list of all the things that will never, ever be in a 40K game:
Adeptus Mechanicum (outside background props)
skitarii
Heretek's
Exploritor fleets
Titans
Rogue traders (in every single form)
Demiurg
Diasporex
Glag
Gykon
Kinebranch
Laer
Any of the other minor Xenos races
Any of the unpopular Craftworld eldar
Any regiment of Imperial Guard beside Cadian or Cadian clones
Traitor guard
Non-Codex space marine chapters
Non-popular space marine chapters
Anything PG 13 relating to chaos
Slannesh (outside of noise marines)
Nurgle (apart from a few units in DoW)
Tzeench (does he even have any units in DoW)
Anything to add?
>>337344045
Ratlings and ogryn.
>>337344045
Squats.
>>337344045
>Titans
There was a Titan in Space Marine. Sure it was a background piece/something to find on and around and not being used, but it was still there. Also there's a really shitty mobile game about Knights. And yeah I know knights aren't titans but again, come on.
>>337344190
Ogryn are in Dawn of War.
>>337344190
We got Ogryn in DoW 1. Ratlings is true though
>>337344045
Exodite Eldar. Beastmen, ratlings,squats, Jokaeros.
>>337344257
>>337344264
>Ogryn are in Dawn of War.
Yeah sorry, I was thinking only about future games.
>>337344045
>titans
I could see a Mechwarrior copycat Titan game happening. (Adeptus Mechanicus, Skitarii, Hereteks + Chaos Titans included)
>Explorator
I would KILL for a point and click adventure game like The Dig where you play as an Explorator digging up stuff and studying shit on different worlds.
>>337344279
>squats
HERE WE GO
>>337344257
whole plot of winter assault was also because titan
>>337343798
Oh you'd probably last a good, long life
It would be an absolute shit life, probably made to work a factory on some forge world for 16 hours a day, no off days, and shitty pay. If you're lucky you'll be on some hive city, where you'll work some mindless, subservient bullshit job and swallow smog with every breath. If you're blessed you might get a nice planet, like an agriculture world, or maybe even a pleasure world, somewhere that you probably will never see aliens or warfare because you're in bumfuck nowhere in the galaxy.
Or you'll get conscripted into the IG thanks to your planets Imperial Tithe and spend the rest of your days being screamed at by drill sergeants, captains and commissars, you will probably see a few small bouts, maybe with feral Orks, or subjugating rebellious planets, and then one day you're shipped off to some meat grinder elsewhere, and if you're really lucky, you'll be put on artillery duty, or put on guard duty at the rear lines.
>>337344348
6th ed put them back into the lore alongside furries.
>>337344448Or delight in the pleasures of chaos
Could you bugs bunny an ork and seduce them or at least distract them with tits by dressing up as a girly ork?
Pic somewhat related
>>337344190
>>337344251
>>337344257
>>337344279
>>337344347
Alright, so to add to the list we have:
Ratlings
Squats
Exodite Eldar
Beastmen
Jokaeros
Any other smaller abhuman groupI;m looking at your furries
And to take off:
Titans
>>337344587
>girly ork?
Orks don't have genders. They reproduce by dropping spores.
>>337344448
>choose a mindless, boring and pointless life
or
>choose Chaos
It may turn out worse for you in the end, but at least you won't be bored.
>>337344537
For about ten minutes before some fat fuck cuts you open as a sacrifice to his new daemonette waifu
>>337344682
That's only a theory as nobody actually knows how they reproduce.
>>337333672
I don't think total war works well enough in a setting with hella guns, compared to fantasy which is basically just medieval europe with spooky shit tacked on.
>>337344682
You know what I mean I thought right would they get distracted it or would you need some dakka to pull it off?
>>337334315
>>337334829
then make a republic commando type game where you control a group of your allies into good positions to fight if you dont they start dying off and morale weakens
>>337337435
Imothek makes galaxy great again
>>337344587
>>337344857
Nah, orks don't have interest in that kind of thing (if they even know what sex is). The only drive orks have is the drive to fight, loot and go fast.
You could distract them with shiny piles of guns/loot. Maybe make a big pile of fake/broken guns, and rig the whole thing with a shitload of explosives.
>>337344764
Chaos is actually a logical choice for someone from Earth finding themselves in 40K.
We know that the chaos powers will never be defeated, and that the Imperium WILL shit down your throat forever if you let it.
Whereas chaos will let you live a decent life, at least for a while.
>>337344829
>that's only a theory
>literally confirmed by the ordo xenos ages ago
>>337334829
I always though in an IG shooter you would play as an regiment instead of a single soldier. If you die you get to control one of your AI buddies (a bit like Operation Flashpoint). If you die too often (for large battlefields) or all your dudes die (for small engagements) you get a Game Over.
>>337345038
>decent life as mindless slave
>will just be used as meat shield like the IG
fuck off m8
>>337344764
Good luck with that anon. Do you know why the vast majority of the Imperium, despite their HORRIBLE SHITTY EXISTANCES havn't outright turned to Chaos?
Because the Imperium does a very good job of hiding that shit. Only the upper echelon of any Imperium force know about Chaos, besides the Astartes. But the average citizen, and even the majority of Guardsmen have no idea that Chaos exists, because Chaos has a funny way of spreading and corrupting by just it's knowledge. Usually any companies of Guardsmen that engage with Chaos forces are put through heavy cleansing, if not outright purging, if they are exposed to the reality of who they are fighting. It's a rarity that anyone in an average Imperium city would come to know of Chaos, and even if they do, if you aren't some poncy noble or planetary governor, the local Arbites will most likely find out what you're doing (cultist shit) and take you in, where you will most likely be imprisoned, if you aren't killed/turned into a servitor/tortured for days on end
>>337345201
What about Cadia?
>>337345138
I feel the touch of the corpse emperor on this post
>>337345201
This is why someone from OUR Earth would likely be involved in chaos; they know about it. That alone makes them far more likely to do it then not to.
That and the arbite thing depends on where you are in the galaxy
>>337345025
That makes me kinda sad anon, but could the orkz pull off a bugs bunny what if they put on the dress and wig instead and tried to sneak into a IG base?
>>337344829
>That's only a theory
A theory that was printed in the 3rd ed Ork codex and then repeated in Xenology which is purposely of highly dubious accuracy but still there.
>>337345038
>Decent life
If you are an extremely rich, powerful and influential man. The average cultist of Chaos has a life expectancy of less than a normal Guardsman and just a bit more than a Gretchin. If you aren't being forced to do torturous, grueling grunt work, you are being tortured for fun, killed for a ritual, tortured for a ritual, or thrown literally in front of gun fire for more important people. But hey, look on the bright side, you will be so batshit insane at that point that you will enjoy being a worthless sack of meat to be toyed with by your superiors and thrown into the fray to soak up enemy ammunition.
>>337345386
>could the orkz pull off a bugs bunny what if they put on the dress and wig instead and tried to sneak into a IG base?
They are brutally kunning.
>best race will never be relevant
;~;
>>337345340
Not your average Imperium world, anon
Cadia has a VERY strict and thorough screening process on their planet, they snuff out Chaos taint faster than anyone else, and even then they are constantly having to put down cults that spring up and cleaning up their Guardsmen companies
>>337345572
They will forever be the 'bad eldar' in the setting.
>>337345572
That's a funny picture of an ork there anon
>>337345386
Of course. Maybe not disguised as human women, but with some clever trickery.
A Kaptin' captured a tau ship once, stole their security codes and used it to invade a refueling base once.
>>337338982
yeah but on the other hand, best morale in the game
>>337345801
>orks
>not relevant
what?
>>337345357
No one seriously wants to be part of Chaos anon. Chaos promises gold, milk and honey, and when you sign up, they stab you in the dick. Only they have pumped your sanity out the window, so getting stabbed in the dick is foreplay. Even people of high status and influence are barely an importance to Chaos, all they are good for is planting the seeds, and then once shit goes down, they are as disposable as everyone else. Chaos doesn't care, Chaos isn't fun, or nice, it isn't comfy or relaxing, it's nightmares ontop of tortures, and if you aren't a fucking Space Marine, you won't be worth a second glance.
>>337345572
>never be relevant
That's how they prefer it, honestly.
Relevancy usually means you end up fighting Tyranids and daemons.
>>337345864
Best race anon not the irrelevance of some space trash
>>337344829
reads a codex sometime fg
>>337345963
Why do you think the Squats left
>Haha, fuck THAT shit in particular.
>>337344045
Catachans could be called to fight with you if you had the ability as the Lord Commander in Last Stand.
>>337330467
Soul Drinkers.
Fought for Imperium.
Got tricked by Tzeench daemon into rebellion.
Kicked him out.
Mutated a lot.
Became excommunicate.
Roamed galaxy on a space hulk with dwindling numbers.
Got fucked up by necrons.
Dug up dreadnought that turned up to be their ancient war philosopher dude.
Got captured by Imperial Fists.
Found out their primarch is not Rogal Dorn.
Summoned daemons to Phalanx.
Found out that all of this was planned by said dreadnought dude.
Handful of surviving marines escape into warp portal.
>>337345948
>No one seriously wants to be part of Chaos anon
Nah mate that's bullshit.
The Imperium is brutal and uncompromising, perhaps moreso to its own citizens than anyone else. If turning to Chaos is a path to revenge, or justice, or even freedom, then that's the path you choose, because there's no other power in the galaxy strong enough to oppose those loyal to the God-Emperor.
To say that nobody has a legitimate beef with the Imperium isn't anywhere close to being true.
>>337345963
i just want them to do more shenanigans like in the war of dark revelations
>>337344045
Holy fuck how much would it rock to have an armored core type game bout titans
>>337346161
>Found out their primarch is not Rogal Dorn
Who is it?
>>337346161
I stopped reading those books a long time ago. Is spiderman still alive?
What race winning Retribution is canon? SM again?
>>337345948
>believing the Imperial propaganda
The 40k galaxy is rotting, and everythings going to be destroyed possibly as soon as the second the clock hits the 41 millennium.
You can't win against chaos. You can't fight it, you can only join it. Joining it is only an illusion as well, you were always in it, you were just ignoring it.
In the actual grimdark setting, its maybe the one escape from the crushing tyrrany of the Imperium. If you only read Blacklibrary, maybe you could be right, but down to its heart, chaos is a legitimate choice in 40k, not some misfortune.
>>337346365
pretty sure he died in battle.
>>337346252
>Mfw you'll never have even a Dreadnought mecha game where you customize your painting/gear and weaponry.
I don't give a shit about titans. I WANNA SERVE IN DEATH!!!
>>337346238
I never said the Imperium is good, but Chaos is worse. Sure you can turn to Chaos for revenge, justice, or freedom, but do you know what it ends up being? Slavery, slavery to laughing gods who could not care an ounce for your existence. The instant you let them in they take your mind and turn it inside out, they break whatever was inside you and make you a husk full of madness. There is no revenge in Chaos, no justice and certainly no freedom. Sure the Imperium is brutal, tyrannical and horrifying to a massive degree, but at least there, if you aren't a criminal, you get to retain your self. The moment you choose Chaos you abandon who you are, because the gods dont care who you are, they only care that you are theres to do with however they please.
>just finished a 2 hour game of Apocalypse
>sending waves of gargants against reaver titans and baneblades
muh dick
I want to see this made into a game, or maybe Titanicus.
What games have playable Noise Marines in them?
I think they're pretty cool.
>>337346570
>not a imperial knigga
>which is even better
>>337346460
IG, it's always them
rest is fanfic tiers
>>337328861
Make it a hoard mode where the missions take 20 minutes. Survive and you get a ton of upgrades, they can keep stacking as difficultly gets tougher. Also permadeath for your character.
>>337346596
>There is no revenge in Chaos
You should read this.
>>337346661
Really? There isn't much happening besides the attack on that ork wall and then the attack to reclaim the Baneblade.
I remember most of the book being mostly about 'the fucking sand is getting in muh pee hole again'
>>337346662
Noise Marines will be a elite class in eternal crusade, but pipe down because they're still finishing up eldar and orks before adding everything else.
>>337346484
But it's not. You are literally surrendering your identity, your sanity, your very self, to a bunch of assholes who could NOT give less of a shit about you. I mean, if you think being turned into a frothing, chittering nutjob who will peel his skin off and use his own blood to draw a ritual circle so he can sacrifice himself to give some other guy more power for literally no reason other than you were one of the first cultists he saw, is a fortunate fate, then sure, you're right. I, on the other hand, think a life of madness, blood and agony is quite unfortunate.
>>337346662
DoW2 only
Best quotes in the game. I think the only memorable ones in the sequel, actually, maybe because they're made with one of the old voice actors of the first
WE ARE AMPLIFIED
COME AND HEAR THE SONG OF SLAANESH
YOU DARE SILENCE US?!
SCREAM TO BE HEARD
SLAANESH SINGS THROUGH US
>>337336489
>never be relevant
That's what they want you to think
>>337346878
>Eternal Crusade
No one is actually hype for it, are they? It looks like something that will crash and burn and ultimately be forgotten.
>>337346693
You can customize your knight on the freeblade game (that is surprisingly not shit), and there is the dreadnought mode on space marine (although there are very few people playing the online modes anymore).
>>337346814
Being a Chaos Marine is different from being a regular cultist. If you are a Chaos Marine, sure, you have a shot at doing some sick shit. If you are a cultist, you will forget immediately about your revenge, because you are no longer a sane individual.
>>337346936
meant for
>>337345572
>>337328861
>No (old) Battlefront game with Imperial Guardsmen
We need to tell /tg/ to tell Games Workshop that this needs to happen.
>>337346958
the devs are for one listening to the community and the gameplay is already pretty fun as an arena shooter, i wouldn't say hype but i have good expectations.
>>337346596
>The instant you let them in they take your mind and turn it inside out, they break whatever was inside you and make you a husk full of madness
Maybe for the vast majority of cases, but that doesn't deny the fact that Chaos is a road to real power.
Plenty of people use the blessings of the dark gods, warp sorcery and forbidden lore to get what they want.
If what you're saying was always true, there wouldn't be any guys like Ahriman. Shit, there wouldn't be any guys like Abaddon.
>>337346935
THINGS SHALL GET LOUD NOW
REMEMBER TO IGNORE CHAOS PROMOTERS
THEY ALL LIE AND DECEIVE
>>337346859
That was just their last mission. A game wouldn't need to be bound to the sandy orky planet. I bet they were doing shit before that.
>>337347198
What an insightful point.
Maybe we should cover you in gold and mount you on a throne as well?
>>337346974
>Being a Chaos Marine is different from being a regular cultist.
>half the book is actually about playing as non-CSM heretics
You really should download a pdf. A lot of the lore in there is worth a read.
99% of the people who ally with Chaos come to a bad end - but if you could be part of that 1% that endures all the terrible shit, achieves real power, and manages to hurt the Imperium, even a tiny bit, wouldn't that be worth it?
>>337346662
>Space Marine
>Want to join the forces of Chaos
>Khorne gives you an axe
>Nurgle makes your bolters shoot AIDS
>Tzeentch shows you sorcery
>Slaanesh gives you some boomboxes he modified in xir's creepy garage/sex dungeon
>>337347027
Again, you are speaking from the perspective of people who actually matter to Chaos due to them being strong already. You are no a Space Marine, you are not Abaddon, you are not worth anything to Chaos. You are a simple man who has surrendered himself to dark powers, you will amount to nothing but a bullet wall, at best case, at worst, you will be slaughtered by someone actually in charge. Sure, you may get lucky, you may get thrown a bone and be given some forbidden secret, or a taste of power, but you know what that will amount to? Nothing, it will be just that, a taste, a little tease, and you will either die from the exposure, mutate into something horrifying, sacrificed to someone better who wants that power, or just returned to a worthless gibbering cultist, because the Chaos gods like to fuck with people, for no reason.
You are not worth anything to them. You will not be a berserker of Khorne, you will not be a Plague Marine, you will not be a Noise Marine, you will not be a Sorceror, you will never attain Daemonhood. You will be meat to grease the treads of the Chaos war machine.
>>337347359
Why would it be worth it? You gave yourself up to dark gods to escape the Imperium, then endured even more horrible shit for an inkling of power, so you can turn around and hurt the people who are going through the same shit you tried to get away from? If thats your big dream, if thats what you tortured yourself to achieve power for, then it's no wonder you would want to side with Chaos, you were already a horrible person to begin with.
>>337347562
>you will never attain Daemonhood
Uh...
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Daemon_Prince
Apparently you don't know shit mate.
>>337347690
>>337347690
Fooking hell m8te, your really overplaying how bad chaos is here. It has so many practitioners BECAUSE its a decent temptation, not because all humans who fall to chaos are retarded
>>337347690
>Why would it be worth it?
>Why would it be worth it to be able to challenge the most oppressive regime in existence?
Gee I dunno.
>Servants of the corpse emperor shitposting ITT
>>337347735
I think he's saying that you're so low on the totem pole that our chances of ascension are slim to none.
If you were a human and you were pissed at the Imperium, wouldn't it be better to join Tau than Chaos?
>>337347802
>Overplaying how bad Chaos is
Chaos is literally an infection, buddy. The reason people fall to Chaos isn't because of the benefits, it's because Chaos sinks into your brain and corrupts it, so when they offer you the very obviously bad deal, you take it, because you are already tainted. Thats literally how it fucking works. Humans dont fall to Chaos because they are retarded, they fall to Chaos because Chaos is a fucking infection.
>>337347735
>A insignificant mortal worm having any chance in any life time of becoming a fucking Daemon Prince
I'd laugh if it wasn't so pathetic.
>>337347958
>Chaos is literally an infection
He's not even pretending anymore
>>337347834
But Iron Warriors are barely Chaos, they even replace mutations with bionics. They are just bitter cunts that are still mad after 10000 year that daddy didn't love them
>>337347912
Sure, if you can somehow contact them without the Inquisition or the Arbites stopping you. Also you should live pretty close to their empire, since I guess that not all imperial citizens can afford to cross the galaxy if it-s not some organized pilgrimage
Can Tyranids fall to Chaos?
I think I would rather have Chaos Tyranids over Chaos Space Marines.
>>337348073
>But Iron Warriors are barely Chaos
They seem to enjoy the Obliterator Virus. They're Chaotic, they just prefer it in forms more pleasing to their metal lust.
>>337348169
they dont have souls so no, however it doesnt stop them being corrupted by chaos ala nurgle plague
>>337347909
Sure, most every Chaos follower is going to get fucked. Most of them are going to die horribly and never attain any sort of power or influence. But if you have absolutely no other chance to challenge the might of the Imperium other than to swear yourself to the Ruinous Powers, you're gonna take it.
And some mortals actually end up doing something of note. So saying shit like "you can't become a daemon prince, never ever ever" is demonstrably untrue. Are the vast majority of them Primarchs and Space Marines? Absolutely. But not all of them are.
>>337347834
>Challenge
You're not a challenge, anon, you aren't even a speed bump. At best you're that fly that hits the windshield instead of the bumper. No amount of Guardsmen you may be able to slay will matter to the Imperium, you won't be able to effect the people that are in charge of the whole mess, all you'd be doing is dying on a muddy battlefield after a stray lasgun shot blasts through your sternum and some new Guardsman recruit rams his bayonet in your guts forty times to make sure you're really dead.
>>337348217
Obliterators are not part of any legion in particular, it just happened that the Iron Warriors had the most techmarines, so they have closer ties with the cults
>tfw there will never be a game about being a Mekboy
>build weapons and warmachines for your fellow Ork boyz
>get rated and paid by (surviving) users
>upgrade shop and your Looter squads with earned teef for better components and more build designs
>building weapons would be like a puzzle game where you have to find matching bits and fit them together under a timer
>building war machines something like Robocraft/Space Engineers
>end game would be building Mega Gargants and Mega Armour for Warbosses
>minigame where you play as a gretchin and have to gather bits for your Mekboy (katamari clone)
>maybe a MP mode where AI orks fight with your designed gear against another player's ork clan
>>337346693
I want Dreadnoughts because they can fit into buildings and mostly focus with fucking up infantry and vehicles like Ork Trukks and rhinos.
>Being able to grab eldar as a dreadnought and scorch them alive like in the DoW 2 trailer
I want THAT!
>>337348271
>you won't be able to effect the people that are in charge of the whole mess
The Long War goes on, loyalist scum.
>>337348031
so there has never been a umie that worked his way up?
he would obviously have to transition into a psuedo spess mreen with loads of augments and mutations
>>337348415
>Mekboy tycoon
Somebody PLEASE let this happen. I'd buy that shit INSTANTLY!
>>337348357
>Obliterators are not part of any legion in particular,
Which is why I stated that they liked the Virus, because they have higher numbers of obliterators in their ranks and have shown higher degree of control with it and are likely purposely infecting their own numbers with the virus.
>>337348487
>so there has never been a umie that worked his way up?
There are.
They're rare, but they still exist. Especially this guy
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Be%27lakor
>>337347912
If you were somehow able to travel somewhere within the Tau's influence spheres and not get killed by Imperium forces, or caught in a battle as the Imperium tries to reclaim their worlds, or...you know even get off the planet you're on to begin with. If you're able to get past all that, then yes, the Tau Empire is a very good choice to join (personally I'd go for the Farsight Enclave if anything) I mean you're still living in an oppressive empire, it's just a lot more subtle about it.
>>337348487
There are, but you'd have to be some kind of near superhuman anyway to stay alive in the backstabbing orgy that is a chaos cult and attract the attention of the Gods while also not succumbing to mutations
>>337347562
so exactly like as if I were a guardsman or something just the other side huh?
>>337347912
I can't imagine the Tau being very receptive to your desire for revenge.
>welcome to the greater good, gue'la
>glad to be here, when are we going to burn down imperial worlds
>we're not
>>337348656
>while also not succumbing to mutations
Mutations are the blessings of the gods, man.
Having an indestructible crab claw for a hand sounds pretty useful.
>>337348856
how am i supposed to masturbate with that?
>loyalists peddling that the Imperium is a good thing
Look at them and laugh
>>337348856
This anon gets it
>The Orks plague the galaxy from the end to end with their ceaseless warring and strife. They are a race rooted so deeply in war that peace is utterly incomprehensible to them. They cannot be bargained with or bought save with weapons that they will inevitable turn against those who tried to bribe them. I pray with all my faith that some great catastrophe will annihilate them but I fear that ultimately it is they, not we, who shall rule the galaxy.
-Xanthius, High Lord of Terra
>>337348415
How would you feel about Mekboyz + Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts building system?
>>337348415
>tfw no Mekboy Evil Sunz racing game
>>337348932
Uh uh uh life uh uh find a way
>>337348779
"I want to kill Imperials!"
"It's unusual for our helpers to volunteer to be meatshields, but we dont' have any problems with that. A crusade is about to crawl up our ass so gear up and go, Gue'vesa."
>>337348856
Claws and barbed dicks are nice, but becoming a gibbering Chaos Spawn that vomits itself as a way of locomotion would be kind of detrimental in your quest to daemonhood
>>337348932
If you manage to pull it off, Slannesh will love you for it
>>337348269
Do become a Daemon Prince, you have to be so fucking AMAZING at your job as a servant that the Gods are like "Hey, you're pretty cool" and impose a fraction of their power onto you. Were not talking killing a few hundred Guardsmen, or even killing a couple Space Marines, were talking YEARS of service, where your regular body count is in the BILLIONS, you have to go up against the greatest of the greatest enemies, command the darkest of secrets, present the most fantastic displays of skill, or spread your deities influence far and fucking wide. These are champions of Chaos were talking about. The Daemon Princes who aren't Space Marines or Primarchs have been around BEFORE the Primarchs. So if you honestly think any average human has a chance in hell of becoming a Daemon Prince, you are seriously off your rocker.
If you're lucky you'll end up a mutated horror show, at least then you'll be stronger than a normal human.
>>337349085
>barbed dicks are nice
The barbs probably make it harder to scratch your dick though.
Maybe we should ask /d/
>>337348856
>Mutations are great
What is Chaos Spawn
>>337348776
At least in the Imperium you have a chance, even if it's small, of carving out a semblance of a normal life, if you side with Chaos, blood and madness will be your bedfellows
>>337348936
STFU Teamkilling fucktard.
>>337349138
>So if you honestly think any average human has a chance in hell of becoming a Daemon Prince, you are seriously off your rocker.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mamon
You really suck at this, man.
>>337349249
Chaos spawn is loads of mutations + losing your mind
>>337348936
No one is saying the Imperium is a good thing. Chaos is just much, much worse.
>>337349334
Nigga do you even know what the word "average" means?
>>337349138
Maybe one of Tzeentch's convoluted plans calls for some random nobody cultist to ascend to Demonhood.
>>337349329
>needing """"""teams"""""" of fellow weak-minded warriors to prove yourself in battle
>>337349329
But Kharn was right
>>337349569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRVcdLPqoHg
What a guy, that Kharn
>>337349569
Why was Kharn so crazy?
Wasn't he one of the "relatively" normal/calm guys pre Heresy?
If you want to hurt the Imperium and join Chaos but be something more than a fuckslave, the best way is probably to organize another gangbang like the Eldar did and hope Slaanesh notices.
I wonder why kharn hasn't become a demon prince yet, As he does exactly what Khorne wants
>>337345201
Not true anymore. In M42 pretty much everyone already knows about chaos in the imperium
>tfw the in-universe chronologically latest fluff is just stupid prosa getting published
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/M42
>>337348932
Good news, you won't need to anyway! Your dick has mutated into a polyp of eyes and teeth. Good for you!
>>337349452
Your point is that no regular human can attain daemonhood when they have to compete with Space Marines and Primarchs, and all the daemon princes that were once mortals originated from a time when there were no Space Marines.
I just linked you to one that disproves that point entirely. And not only that, it defied your assertion that you need to do something incredible to get daemonhood. All that guy did was turn one planet away from the rule of the Imperium and Nurgle made him a daemon prince.
So first it was
>no mortal can become a daemon prince
to
>no mortal can become a daemon prince now that space marines are a thing
So where are those goal posts going to end up next?
>>337328861
>No game centered on being a regular guy in a universe full of super soldiers and nightmarish horrors.
You're right, wish we had a proper COD reskin of 40k.
>>337349689
>Why was Kharn so crazy?
He became the true champion of Khorne - even Angron failed to realize that real and unending rage means you kill indiscriminately.
>>337349696
You have to go above and beyond what your god wants to become a Daemon Prince.
Maybe if he made like, a planet sized axe, and used it to decapitate an entire system he would get promoted.
>>337349794
Holy shit nigga, I never said a normal mortal could never become a Daemon Prince. I said your AVERAGE human could not do that shit.
When I say that I aint talking about someone with influence, someone in a high position, someone who matters in a planetary government. I'm talking about this chucklefuck, this nobody in a crowd of nobodies. This whole conversation comes from you (or whoever else wanted to) saying you could be some big shot of Chaos if you were in the 40k verse, but the fact is no, you would not be, you are an average person, average (keyword here, average) people in 40k don't matter, they dont amount to anything worth a squat, certainly not to Chaos.
>>337349868
Khorne isn't about indiscriminate killing, he's about honorable, gory warfare. If he wanted indiscriminate killing, every Exterminatus ship would become a Daemon Prince.
>>337350159
not him, but a nobody could barely be a guardsman hero, commissar or anything either
>bitching about minor details
cmon fags the TRUE servants orf Slaanesh are here to have some FUN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKoR-3oaWlQ
>>337350293
>honorable
Khorne is not honorable in the slightest, he only cares that you make that blood flow
>>337350374
And? I'm not here to argue for the Imperium, I am just arguing against Chaos.
>>337328861
today i started reading Gaunts Ghost, its great so far.
>>337350518
But he is. It's barely explored and displayed, but every Chaos God represents negative and positive aspects, Khorne is the god of hate, rage, blood and violence, but he is also the god of honor and discipline, traits warriors must have.
>>337332881
Banshee (male)
>>337350817
Also courage and justice.
>>337350581
oh, nevermind then
my opinion on it then:
the fact that average nobody can't not became daemon prince is stupid, they can but not through their own power and/or will, because they are average nobodies
if they can, then they couldn't be called average nobodies anyway
>IG are STILL the expansion faction
Come on now, Relic.
>>337350159
And I've already said (about 2 or 3 times) that I readily admit the vast majority of Chaos followers will absolutely end up being cannon fodder or complete failures.
But I've also been pointing out that the possibility of attaining real power, however remote, is still there. And that's something that can't be denied. You're arguing in certainties when one of the key aspects of Chaos is subverting expectations.
If failure was a certainty, nobody would ever try anything.
So what exactly did the eldar do that was so degenerate to give birth to an entire fucking god of degeneracy?
>>337349874
So when kharn kills a shitload of bloodthirstersor Demon prince Angron
>>337350817
>Khorne is the god of hate, rage, blood and violence, but he is also the god of honor and discipline
Pretty sure this stuff hasn't been canon for quite a while. Otherwise Khornate daemons wouldn't be killing defenseless people.
Only Tzeentch being the god of hope is still mentioned.
>>337351152
1 billion eldar came together and startedholding handswith each other.
>>337351152
Thousands of years of very high end degeneracy. Think what the Dark Eldar do, but over a much longer period, and with more drugs I would think.
>>337351263
lewd
>>337350817
Which codex says he favours martial honor? I keep hearing people say it but I can't track it down and I can't figure out if it's just headcanon that has been around too long or if there was some proof that he's cool with his champions who only want to seek out big bold targets.
>>337350817
>>337350939
That hasn't been a thing since Slaves to Darkness, and it was retconned to hell and back. Chaos is a purely negative and destructive force
>>337351152
Probably what the Dark Eldar doing right now, but not because they need to torture, but because it sounded funny to their bored, warped mind.
>>337351152
Huge Coke filled orgies
>>337351286
>very high end degeneracy
which was what though?
I NEED TO KNOW THIS FOR REASONS.
>>337351290
>the only way to incur his displeasure is by not killing
That's one busy work schedule. Fuck.
>>337351364
Very advanced and sophisticatedear nibbling
>>337351290
>followers of Khorne have no friends
>>337351152
Almost the entire Eldar race banded together toplay Habbo Hoteland the god of Degeneracy, decadence, unchecked lust and pleasure was born.
>>337351563
>>337351494
No you dumb fucks
They decided it was acceptable to havemore than one waifu
>>337351152
Everything. They had to invent words just to describe the works they undertook.
>>337351494
you are now imagining a cute girl whispering in your ear with warm breath
40k threads are always qualitymoreso without Eldarfags
Autistic anons are encouraged to posttheir created Chapters/Warbands/etc.
>>337351152
Too manysmug anime girls were posted on anonymous image boardsat one time.
>>337351864
Aren't you aware that this makes me post more Eldar?
So how did Horus manage to fatally injure the god emperor?
>>337352203
Emps was too much of a pussy to beat his kid until Horus forced his hand.
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>>337352203
The Talon of Horus is sharp.
Like, really sharp.
>>337352203
Horus was the emperors favourite son, he didn't want to hurt him
>>337352368
Their comrades in arms are legion: the writing team and countless untested rulebooks, the ever vigilant redshirts, and the writers of White Dwarf, to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from other games, their own incompetence, Based Chinaman - and worse.
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>>337352203
Probably observing the anti-smacking laws New Zealand has to stop you hitting your kids.
>>337328861
same with Star Wars always being JEDAIS and SITH except for a few games
>>337352368
>>337352450
I like it.
>>337352368
>GW continue to not make any fucking merch
I swear to god they need to bought out by Americans with big wallets
>>337352879
They did make some limited edition backpacks that were meant to look like Imperial Guard satchels. They were severely over priced. You're better off either making your own shit or just flat out paying someone on etsy to make you something. It's cheaper than GW will be.
>>337345201
are there any stories about a regular joe-schmo in an imperial city that accidentally finds out about chaos and has to keep it a secret while trying to research more or perform rituals n shit?
>>337352457
fucking pussy-ass poofs, no wonder i've been seeing so many videos of obnoxious NZ children talking smack to police and military personnel lately. no discipline
>>337349343
I think its thrown around that your patron deity might just spawn you for a laugh sometimes, because all of them have mood swings that melt star systems.
>>337333472
>The biggest problem with making an IG shooter is how the fuck would you make that?
Simple, be a Stormtrooper/Kasyrkin instead
>>337351864
>Autist
I guess that's mepls no bully
wait so who are the chaos gods, and are there any other gods competing with them?
>>337353745
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Gods
>>337353745
Pic related
>>337343760
Necrons are most likely the 4th race based on some screenshot hints and other things
Each DoW game started with 4 races, it's nothing new. Was DoW1 bad because it started with the same?
For Tanith, For the Emperor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCGB81DBzOc
>>337353745
The four Chaos Gods are Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeench and Slaneesh, who are almighty warp entities made up of countless souls, first created in the War in Heaven between the Old Ones and the C'tan. Slaneesh came later, as the Eldar race fugged it into existence. While the big four are the ones you hear about, there's plenty of gods of other races, and other, minor warp entities that aren't mentioned in fluff, probably only presiding over one world or minor race.
>>337353956
Dawn of war came out 12 years ago. You'd expect forward momentum not stagnation and the status quo from over a decade ago.
>>337331407
There was a really shitty tau shooter game early on. Besides being shitty it hit the issue of just being another fps
>>337351152
They didn't listen, they could've prevented it.
>>337353473
i want to play a 40k themed tactical shooter where you play as stormtroopers
like old rainbow 6 or ghost recon but instead of fighting terrorists you fight orks, demons and anime robots
>>337347359
>this much heresy in one post
Khayosss pls go
>>337354128
Isha x Nurgle is CUTE!
>>337354192
>make a game where you play as the tau
>its not a mech game
wtf were they thinking
I want to program a first person inquisitor RPG where the central theme is a personal struggle against the temptation of chaos. At certain times, situations arise where straying slightly from the path of righteousness makes your life a lot easier and I want to make it feel like "I can't stop cheating once I start" but with Chaos with cool and meaningful consequences.
yay / nay
>>337338232
IMO doing the plays affects you somehow... I remember the one who plays She Who Thirsts is completely and irreversibly damned or something... I doubt the others who take part are unaffected.
>>337344264
>>337344190
There are ratlings in Batlefleet Gothic, you can upgrade them in your ships for more troop value
im new to 40k
why doesnt everyone just go to slaanesh, it seems like a better outcome then everything else
>>337335998
DON'T UNDERESTIMATE ME AN ME BOYZ
>>337354618
Those are Ratings which is a name for enlisted personnel in a navy.
>>337354128
so is the emperor more powerful than these gods or why is it they havent been steamrolled yet
>>337353956
DoW had 4 races at launch, 12 years ago.
Soulstorm ended up having 9, DoW 2 only had 6.
There are reasons to be worried or at least cautious.
>>337354769
>Those are Ratings
I played battlefleet gothic for a bit and wondered what the fuck he was talking about
>>337354742
They would if they knew of it (but knowledge is suppressed
Slaanesh likes to snort souls like coke so the Eldar/Dark Eldar are afraid of xir
Also it preys on hedonists mostly, while khorne recruits those with anger issues (there are a lot of people like that), nurgle targets the lazy and dying, and tzteentch targets arrogant and intellectual types
>>337337805
It's embarrassing but everyone eventually gets duped by orks.
>>337340580
I love how he just takes the hat and leaves her for dead. Normally that would qualify as a Bad Idea, but he has the hat QED victory.
>>337343581
There was a story with Orks, I forget the name but IIRC it's where Rawne finally makes his move.
>>337355109
Everything about that scene is amusing. The way he just pops up behind her, the careful and slightly dainty way he takes the hat, then just skewers it on a handy sharp bit.
>>337354806
The Emperor is the greatest psyker to have every existed in the material universe, even as a barely-living corpse. Countless psykers from across the galaxy are fed to him every day to keep him sustained, their souls burned to nothing in order to extend his. With this power behind him, he has been single-handedly forcing back the powers of the Ruinous Ones since he took upon the throne, as well as keep the Astronomican (used to allow "safe" passage in the Warp) alight and to prevent the Golden Throne from opening and farting Chaos all over Terra. It also doesn't help that the Chaos Gods are CONSTANTLY bickering with each other, and are just as occupied in trying to be the best Chaos God as they are fucking over the material universe.
And to throw on my own headcanon, I believe the Emperor is a Warp God. A God of Order; despite how much it is played up, an overwhelming majority of humanity is loyal to him. If even a small part of this worships Chaos, and they remain as strong as they are, how potent is the one who untold billions more devote their lives to?
>>337343554
It's entertaining. It's the first 40K book that shows what civilian life is like on a chaos held world.
>>337346365
Spiderman and like 2 or 3 of the last loyal Soul Drinkers realized everything is fucked up and IF can't really help them, so they said fuck it and jumped after the Daemons into the Warp.
>>337355389
>A God of Order
He's the god of fanatics.
>>337343792
He was one of the minor characters from Necropolis I think, Gaunt had him arrested for cowardice and incompetence or something instead of blamming him on the spot, so he felt responsible and volunteered.
Killing a chaos marine with poison crossbows is pretty stupid though.
>>337355484
Really? Interesting, how does it go?
I'm thinking the quality of life index is going to be pretty low
>>337354742
>why doesnt everyone just go to slaanesh
well for one thing it's not all good times and happy fun, you'll become hooked on everything over time because you need to chase bigger and bigger highs- furfaggotry, scat, stabbing yourself in the dick for brief jollies, and it's never enough
on top of that Slaanesh or one of his minions might decide to fuck around with you or sacrifice you
The safest bet, as picking a chaos god to worship, is Nurgle. His army is really gross, but you no longer have to feel pain once you've fully accepted him, and everyone is friendly and happy in the mire of death, muck and disease
>>337355846
>you'll become hooked on everything over time because you need to chase bigger and bigger highs- furfaggotry, scat
are we in slaanesh right now
>>337355725
Well, all of them are gods of fanatics really. Irrespective of the Chaos shitposting going on in this thread, unless you go above and beyond in the name of the Ruinous Ones, you get pushed to the bottom of the pile or ignored. Fanaticism to your deity is what elevates you, either for good or ill.
>>337336909
How can a man sound so edgy while conveying his opinion?
>>337355484
seconding >>337355830 i wanna know the deets
>>337343353
This picture is mostly accurate except from slaneesh, he/she/it. is supposed to reveal themselves as something the individual desires, and that is not a cheese burger.
>>337355929
no anon, despite what they want you to believe furfags are not allowed here and neither are scatfags
now /d/ on the other hand
>>337356117
That's just a generic representation of a femme fatale. You could say that Tzeench is also wrong, because he is eternal change, therefore one image of him is by definition wrong.
>>337355389
Go find and read "Shape of the Nightmare to Come". Its where, among other things, the God-Emperor dies, and becomes precisely what you said: A god of order. Except that this is Wh40k, so a God of Order is to be taken in the worst possible light.
>>337355929
Slannesh's power is pretty vague, so probably. If the pain-pleasure principle is correct, that all actions by biological organisms is just to get pleasure, then Slannesh is actually omnipotent and has already won the Great game
>>337348932
Very carefully.
>>337355830
I remember reading in Atlas Infernal a Daemon World of Nurgle. As a base, imagine Victorian slums as an entire world. The world is choked in thick smog and toxic clouds. Huge, black flies are everywhere, constantly on people and anywhere near food. The people are pallid-skinned, covered in sores and cysts; lifelessly they trudge to their destination, be it the mines their master orders them to dig or to the stinking pits they call home. Minecarts hurtle through the town at random, hauling ores and fuel to the belching factories. People occasionally just walk in front of them and are crushed; nobody cares, nobody even notices. That's just off the top of my head.
>>337337960
to be fair the orkz outsmarted them twice during the war of dakka
>>337339585
> Emperor-class battlecruiser
Fucking Fire Warrior
>>337348932
You won't need to friend. Daemonettes of slaanesh will be more than happy to assist you.
>>337356820
>they have claws too
and sharp teeth
>>337356431
If all xir acts eventually end in death than it will be Nurgle who eventually triumphs
The problem with IG is that they aren't that visually iconic/unique while still being recognizable as to what they actually are at first glance, compared to the big 3 races
>Space Marines are clearly recognizable supersoldiers in power armor, but still unique in their appearance
>Orks are clearly recognizable as some kind of Orc monsters but are really unique because of their technology
>Eldar are clearly super sleek and fancy faction but have quite some unique designs
Now compare that to
>IG are either generic future soldiers or a silly mishmash of various references
>Dark Eldar look like generic edgy armor sets from RPGs
>Chaos Daemons are somewhat generic demons
>Chaos Space Marines are brutes in some kind of heavy armor that is way too busy with edgy shit
>Tyranids are somewhat generic alien bugs
>Necrons are somewhat generic killer robots
>Tau are literally generic weeb shit
Again, this is just visuals at first glance. Not their fluff or design, just visuals from a marketing perspective.Except for Tau, they trully are generic weeb shit in all aspects
>>337356431
Slaanesh is not a god of pleasure, he is a god of excess
>>337357146
She's a god of pleasure and excess pleasure really
>>337357240
No, stop spewing this secondary bullshit and read a damn codex
>>337340105
Jeff the Slaanesh cosplayer also happens to be a motherfucker so bad he can 1v1 Keepers of Secrets.
>>337357032
>Generic
Do you know how many fantasy tropes originated from Warhammer?
khorne=conflict
slaanesh=excess
tzeentch=change
nurgle=decay
>>337357032
>Space Marines are clearly those guys from starcraft
>Orks are clearly some kind of tolkien rip off.
>Eldar. Ditto. Elves in space? Woooo.
Every race has visual issues because they're all either lifted from other sauces or other sauces have aped their style for so long that the average person won't know who was first.
>>337356931
Not always friend the mutations are to my understanding quite random. Besides I was refering to sex. Not HJ's or BJ's.
>>337351290
>Followers of Khorne have no friends
>few long-term acquantances
>mfw Nurgle follower
Best God,best papa, best family!
>>337355830
It's been a while, let me think... there were runes around, just floating around, looking at them they would burn into your brain and they would look back.
I remember they kept asking the traitor odd questions like "is it true imperial citizens eat the unfertilized ovum of avians?
There was one savant who had his autsms turned up to 11, he was counting everything around him all the time, and was called in to help track the ghosts, so it seems like insanity is normal and valued to some degree.
Yeah, quality of life was pretty low indeed.
>>337354742
imo Slaanesh has the the worst outcome possible for normal worshipers that have no chance in hell of becoming a Daemon Prince.
>fall to Khorne
>will most likely became a violence obsessed Berzerker
>will be killed in a battle, but at that point you'll die doing what you love and your death will only further fuel Khorne so you die happy
>fall to Tzeentch
>will most likely get fucked in the ass by someone smarter than you and if you're deep enough you might even enjoy it
>fall to Nurgle
>you'll become a bloated living corpse but the pain will be so unbearable you will just get used to it, so your death will be pretty painless
>but Nurgle never loved you, so there is that
>fall to Slaanesh
>in your pursuit of excess and new pleasure you will soon realize that only death will allow you to experience one new but final emotion
>but be it suicide or murder, in your last moments you will realize that death actually really sucks
Slaanesh is only ok if you are a Space Marine or are so great you will be elevated to a Daemon Prince, but then every other God is miles better.
>>337351290
>>Which codex says he favours martial honor?
That was before GW flanderized all the Chaos gods. It's retconned and long gone by now.
Obey the law Imperial Citizen.
Chaos Lords really have a bad track record.
>>337357996
I figured as much, but the entry I posted is from an ancient 2nd ed book that talks about shit GW doesn't consider canon anymore like the sensei and star child and what not. I really want to figure out if it's ever actually been published so the next time the debate pops up, and it will because it always does, I can point people in the right direction.
>>337358363
He is probably referring to Rogue Trader stuff, but if we consider that canon we also have to accept Beakies arresting Eldar punks for tagging walls as canon
>>337358363
iirc it's more from Warhammer Fantasy fluff that Khorne dislikes one-sided matches and enjoys even fights (and blood). Khorne wouldn't condone the easy slaughter of innocents rather than actually skillfull skirmishes.
>not following best Gods
Muckin about all of you
>>337345572
>they stole the STC that could cure any disease, which would save billions of people, during a dick-measuring contest
The true kings of banter.
>>337351290
>>337357996
>>337358363
It's literally just a single mention in some really old source. I don't even think it was a codex.
There are Khorne followers who are all about honor, as there are Khornate snipers or artillery men. But Khorne himself does not give a fuck about honor, just that blood flows.
>>337358842
Well, atleast it wasn't some Matt Wardian bullshit.
>>337343723
>>337344030
Explain because I recently decided to get in to W40K and this is the first set I bought
The emperor was a shitty father, that should have saved his kids.
>>337359142
>Explain
A long time ago, in an edition far far away the Blood Angels chapter boarded a space hulk known as the Sin of Damnation. It was full of genestealers and other gribblies. The Blood Angels left with only 50 living members of the Chapter having failed to purge the hulk. 600 years later the hulk turned up again near their home world so they sent their first company in to try to do better. This is the setting of the Space Hulk board game, or one of the editions settings at least. This time they managed to purge the hulk of the genestealers, recover some artefacts and finally put the whole debacle behind them.
>>337345038
>Decent life
>Become so numb to stimulus you have to become the most sick depraved and twisted cunt you can until you die from pushing your limits, soul then belongs to Slaanesh
>Become so angry and rage fuelled constantly all you see is red and you lose rational thought and other emotions, push yourself into bloodlust and dangerous situations until you die and khorne harvests you
>Try to learn magic without it fucking you up, start growing random mutations and losing control, even if you gain control tzeentch might turn you into a slug because "plans"
Nurgle is the only one who is SOMEWHAT ok, since the followers are happy and genuinely enjoy the plagues and diseases, but even they can get shit on
>>337359142
There is actually almost no information about it. The Wiki only has a single passing mention of it in few of the bios of notable Blood Angels while the Lexicanum doesn't even mention it on the Blood Angel page.
>Secoris Tragedy
>The Secoris Tragedy was a catastrophic space hulk cleansing operation undertaken by the Blood Angels Chapter in 996.M40. The entire chapter under Chapter Master Sangallo deployed when a space hulk appeared in the Secoris system near Baal. However, the Blood Angels discovered tens of thousands of Genestealers in hibernation. The resistance on board the space hulk was so great that only fifty battle brothers under Captains Kadeus and Dante survived the battle
>>337359876
There's a little more under
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Hulk_(3rd_Edition)
Years ago in 996.M40 a large Space Hulk was detected passing through the Secoris system close to a populous hive world. Because of its proximity to busy trade routes in the system, it could not be bombarded for fear of the resulting debris threatening trade ship navigation. Instead the Blood Angels enacted a full-scale boarding action. What they encountered inside was tens of thousands of Genestealers rousing from hibernation. Of the entire Blood Angels chapter aboard the hulk, only fifty survived. A little more than six hundred years after what happened at Secoris, another Space Hulk was reported within a few light years of Baal. Seizing the chance to redeem their past failure and restore their chapter's pride, over eighty members of the Blood Angel first company under the command of Captain Michaelus Raphael boarded the hulk, which they give the title the Sin of Damnation. Captain Raphael quickly located a dormant nest of Genestealers, and moved to eradicate them. With a mix of cunning and sheer, brutal force, the Blood Angels manage to first isolate, and then eradicate the entire Genestealer population through the use of poison gas.
That was probably just lifted directly from the rules book from the manual, but I could be wrong.
Are there any /tg/ made IG units like how there is /tg/ made speehs Mahrines?
>>337351437
>Avatar of their only god
>raped by a regular ass daemon
>>337360385
Bloodthirsters don't fuck around, man.
>>337360257
Not quite but they got a few characters like Comissar Fuklaw.
>>337360385
It's only a fragment of the God. There's a bunch of craftworlds and their each have their own. They might even have multiple seeing as they can be killed. The exact process of waking an avatar isn't known, other than it requires the sacrifice of the Young King.
>Space Mehreens make up a billionth of a percent of the human population
>They still get credit for everything despite them being completely irrelevant in the grand scale of things
>>337360845
There is a point in time where the numbers and even rare competent commanders of the Guard are not enough to stem the tide of a Xeno or Chaos invasion. Space Marines are what allows the Imperium to maintain the balance and stability where the Gaurd alone would see it collapse.
Armageddon, Leviathan and the 13th Black Crusade being good examples.
>>337360845
>get ALL the marines together
>probably only have a million dudes
Shit, it's probably better that they're spread out. Knowing Grimdark, if they got all together about half of them would turn traitor againlooking at you, Dark Angels
>>337361012
Nobody is denying that Astartes are overpowered mary-sue killing machines that can turn the tide of battle, but for all the battles they have won, ten thousand more have been won by the IG.
Just by the fact that their total population is somewhere close to a million means they will always be completely irrelevant.
>>337351010
They're just gonna do whitebread Cadians anyway because that's what GW stores stock. So who cares.
>>337360385
Avatars are a fragment of Khaine and Bloodthirsters are a fragment of khorne, daemons are made from the gods own power
>You will never serve the god emperor
>You will never crush filthy xenos
>You will never hold the line
There is literally no reason to live
>>337349696
Pretty sure that's because that's not soemthing he wants.
Kharn is actually really smart and coolheaded when not in combat situation, he knows he wouldn't get as many skulls by turning into a Daemon Prince.
>tfw no v'iet tau survival horror.
>>337361721
>No reason to live
You have failed him, and by him, all Mankind!
Rejoice, for no religion can ever be as awesome as the IMPERIAL CREED!
>>337361721
"Oh em geee the Colonel said that our regiment is going on holiday to fight Orks! It's such a nice break from daemons and traitor marines."
>>337362579
well at least when dying to orks your soul doesn't get captured and used as daemon fuel
>>337354618
Are you dyslexic?
>>337331407
Fuck, I'd be fine even if it was only a Freeblade reskin with a Riptide instead of a knight, just please ;_;
tfw Earth is one of the most chaos infected planets ever
>Khorne
Constant mass shooters and serial killers
>Slaanesh
Gay meth orgies
>Nurgle
Gay meth orgies but with people purposely trying to get aids
>Tzeentch
The government