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Overwatch will be the next LoL


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It's just ridiculously popular. Every young person I've talked to this week know what it is and even most of the girls have played it and loved it.

How the fuck did Blizzard smash it out of the park this time?
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>>337325675
Because Blizzard are the absolute masters of lifting game design wholesale, injecting it with user-friendly features and design, and turning it into a massive success.
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because (like LoL) it's taking an already popular idea and dumbing it down to be so casual a toddler can play it
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Viraling on /v/ obviously
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>>337325761

You act like that's a bad thing
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>>337325675
I like it. TF2 can finally fuck off. rip
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Are you a pedophile OP? Why have you been talking to little girls about video games so much this week?
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Ridiculously popular you say? But it has ridiculously little content.
Sure, there's plenty of heroes, but there's only handful of maps and couple of game modes.
Knowing Blizzard they won't allow custom servers and probably won't release a level editor, so they'd have to create the maps themselves. And Blizzard is THE laziest game devs out there.
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LoL doesn't cost $40 to play.
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>>337326164
There's 12 maps and like, 4 modes or so? The lack of deathmatch is very weird but I feel like that's coming.
Regardless, 12 maps isn't a "handful"
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>>337325675
It would be if it was f2p
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>>337326164
There are more maps in OW at launch than Hots, LOL and DOTA combined have ever had.
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>>337326263
If Blizzard has any sense at all there will never be deathmatch, but I'm sure they'll cave to the "but muh arena" faggots as usual.
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>>337326281
>comparing an FPS to ASSFAGOTS just because heroes have "ultimates"
>>>/out/
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>>337325675
I can't tell the difference between ironic shill posts and actual shilling anymore.

What should I do?
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>>337325675
It just looks fun and interesting.
It has cool characters and the artstyle is charming.

It's a shame you can't filter out teams that play with their friends. It's one of the things I hate from team based games. Random pubs get ass raped vs a coordinated A-team full of faggots.
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>>337325675
>How the fuck did Blizzard smash it out of the park this time?
I don't know Mr. Shill, why don't you tell us more?
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>image.jpg
>shilling
Kill yourself.
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>Sees the dragon coming
>runs in a straight line away from it
>dies
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>>337326385
I've heard, though I have no confirmation, that teams with parties are significantly more likely to get matched up with other teams with parties.
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>>337325675
By copypasting the dreamworks face on all the characters.
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>>337326346
They apparently don't want to add a DM mode to Overwatch.

They'll break down though.
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>>337326125
Maybe OP is a little girl as well
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>>337325675
I love playing OW, but it will not have the same popularity as League for these reasons

1. It's not Free To Play
2. You can't run it on a toaster like you can with League
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>>337326356
CSGO has only one map.
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POST YOUR GAME MODE IDEAS

CTF with the DOOOOOOOOOMFIST
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>>337326275
Get a fucking job I'll gladly pay 40 dollars to keep out f2p shitters
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>don't even bypass lols views in twitch
>the new big thing

I will laugh so hard when this game dies the moment Legions comes and you cuck will start playing WoW again.
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>>337326527
This.

People forget it was an open-beta on weekend, the 40e paywall is going to keep a lot of people out in the end.

I really hope they stick to having a solid price on the game, it really keeps out at least the worst of F2P scum.
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>>337326164
12 maps isn't a handful, it's nearly as many as full priced COD games.

A handful is 4 maps, which is what battlefront had.
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Because I viral'd it for them. I'm premium. $0.15 per post.
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Overwatch was made by the A-Team
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>>337326546
A horde type map on the moon where you fight gorillas
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>>337326507

No one would play the normal modes if they add team death match. I really hope they don't add that. The game dynamics were never meant for tdm.
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>>337326642
You just have low standards, anon. Just the fact that you use COD or BF as an example says volumes.
Back in the day games shipped with dozens of maps.
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>>337326507
>>337326346
>>337326263
>>337326164

>add deathmatch
>all other game modes now have zero population

This is why deathmatch is retarded.

If they were smart they'd add deathmatch to brawl
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>>337326640
>Beta of unreleased game doesn't exceed well established game with millions of players
WOOOOOW
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It's not the worst game I've ever played. I'd probably buy it on the cheap or play it once it went F2P. And maybe it will keep the babbies out of my adult games
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>>337326658
Hey steve are you coming to the pub tonight
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>>337326796
>add deathmatch
>forums flooded with "BAWWWW MY CLASS CAN'T 1V1 THEIR CLASS PLZ NERF"
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>>337325675
S-so you're saying i can find a real GF in this game?
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>>337326828

Nope. Gotta start getting my content ready for the Dark Souls 3 dlc.
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>>337325675
well if it becomes the next meme it'll just give a lot of people for me to dunk with bastion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ugJZXlA0oM
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>>337326797
b-but its a b-b-beta BETA
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>>337326791
I can only think of UT that really shipped with dozens of maps. Everything else was <30
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>>337326970
This is some pretty pathetic trolling, dude.
Do you really think anyone would expect OW to beat out LoL even after release.
LoL is one of the biggest competitive games on the planet.
You're acting like OW fans are saying it will kill LoL.
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>>337326970
You will now provide a recent example of a beta exceeding the views large well established games have.
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>>337326385
If you're in a team chances are you get paired with other teams. I was in a team with just 1 friend and we got paired with another team of 2 people and continually fought a team of 4. The extra 2 slots on each team were lone players because they were shuffled around each game.

Same with level, if you have a high level you'll be paired with a team of similar level to your own most of the time.

Problem is though when playing in a team is half the time we raped the other team because we out-coordinated them or we got paired with an infinitely more coordinated team and got our asses handed to us. This was only a problem when playing in teams larger than 3 people though.
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>>337327048
>You're acting like OW fans are saying it will kill LoL.
literally what OP implied
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>>337325675
>this time
Implying they didn't do the same with WoW back in the day.
They know what the majority will like so they use smart design for all the games aspects, top it off with fun gameplay (hard or casual) and GG.
Besides not really that hard with an FPS
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>>337327112
Reading pretty deep into nothing there, bud.
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>>337327040
Yeah, that's what I had in mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MSFW8pZ-_4
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>>337326954
>shilling your own videos

REEEEEEEEEEE MOOOOOODS MODS MODS MODS

I always typed gg ez at the end of every match won, salty tears taste great
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>>337326954

Stop posting your shit videos, son.
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>>337327278
That's unacceptably toxic behavior. I always report those people.
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can i post my shit video its only 20 seconds long and i think its really funny so please let me post it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVdCUe93iJo&feature=youtu.be
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>>337326791

Quality > Quantity

Of the hundreds of maps for CSGO people play about 5 over and over. The same is true for almost every mulitplayer game.

12 maps + 21 classes is more than enough and the quantity isn't relevant because you can play the same multiplayer game over and over if it is fun.
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>>337327361
These kind of posts are problematic
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>>337327361
These kind of post only make my dick harder

white knight beta faggot keep getting BTFO by my MLG Bastion POTGs ayyyy
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>>337325675
at the end of the melting dream
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>>337327398
ty anon who liked my video
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>>337325675
KEEP GIRLS OUT OF MY VIDEO GAMES
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>>337325675

LOL- moba, f2p <- (this is a big one), can run on low pc specs <- also a big one since 3rd worlders can play it

Overwatch- fps i guess, NOT F2P, need decent pc to run.
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The game is honestly not that bad.

>nice art style that will age well
>responsive controls

literary the only thing they need is balance (which will never happen cause it's a Blizzard game and they didn't have a balanced game since SC:BW) and ... that's it.

Absolutely no reason to hate on this game what so ever.
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>>337327278
>>337327558
>REE
>gg ez
>ayyyyy

You're either a masterful bait supplier or young and fucking stupid.
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>>337327450
Quality of OW maps leaves much to be desired too. Especially the old ones like Gibraltar or Hanamura. They're full of chokepoints with no alternative routes. There also virtually useless areas like the one between the first and second capture points on Volskaya. No one ever organizes a defense there, there's never action going on in there. It exists just to make the defenders waste time getting to the first point.

Although the new maps improved a little in that regard.
I quite like Nepal (except the Sanctum) and Ilios.
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>tfw overwatch is the next evolve
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>>337327450

Except all of the Overwatch maps suck rancid shit.

Outside of a couple details most of them really weren't memorable at all from what I played of the OB.
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>>337325848
;_;7
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>>337328039
>tfw tf2 is dead
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>>337325675
It's got a really well made, easy on the eyes art style.

It's easy as fuck, so anyone can play it and do well.

It's got more variety in playable characters than most people are used to and that makes it stand out.
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>>337328039
Did Evolve have a beta where everyone loved it?
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>>337328223
Denko-chan
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>>337328253
yes
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>Was in the CB
>Wanted to talk about the game but absolutely zero people cared about it
>No hype, no buzz, no anything anywhere
>People were legit mad at the game and hated what Blizzard was doing
>Open beta hits
>Commercials every 10 minutes
>Everyone going nuts over the game and spamming about it everywhere
>People pretending like they've been interested in it forever
>Can't join in on any discussions because it's all completely new people flinging around terrible opinions because they know nothing about the game

Honestly I have no idea what happened, one day no one cares and the next it's like an alien ship landed during the superbowl halftime show.
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>>337328412

That might have something to do with the fact that people were actually allowed to play it, compared to the CB where you either had to be incredibly lucky to have been invited in, or were stuck watching a streamer struggle to be enthusiastic about playing it.

So yeah, big surprise, people are more likely to want to talk about a game they can actually play.
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>>337328039
The big differences are the Blizzard seal of polish and the symmetrical gameplay
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>>337328412
Because nobody else on this whole site got into CBT. It was all streamers and youtubers with lots of viewers for better marketing coverage.
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>>337325754

So why did Heroes of the Storm fail so badly?
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>>337328412
What, people were buttmad for months because streamers were already playing it but they couldn't
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>>337326546
>CTF

Problem there is that everyone would go Lucio/genji/Tracer on those maps.

KotH and Escort have the advantatge that your character mobility doesn't matter. It's tricky to balance gamemodes around characters with different mobilities.
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>>337328568
Those who are interested in the genre already play LoL or Doto, those games eat up so much time that you don't really need another one
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>>337328553
>>337328537

Yeah but like I'd try to talk to people I know about it and they would just get angry, everyone was giving off the impression and some outright stating they wanted nothing to do with the game. Now I check and they haven't gone 15 minutes without talking about the game and fawning over it.

I don't know, just feels weird to me after so many months of getting the cold shoulder everywhere.
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>>337328643
People suggested disabling abilities as long as you're holding the flag
It would work I guess, but it'd probably be boring as fuck
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>>337325675
They executed the "beta marketing" tactic in the right place at the right time nearly flawlessly
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They needed something to keep them from going bankrupt with the shit they are doing with WoW so they pulled out their apparent best.

Whilst the game is sort of fun, I still don't see myself paying the price it is at the moment because it gets compared to TF2 which was only $20 originally and now even free. Sure, they aren't the same game but it's just hard to get past that Overwatch is at least $70 where I am from.
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>>337328697
>people I know
Your friends must be codfags or contrarian neet /v/irgins.
People were a bit frustrated they didn't have an invite, but nobody outright hated the game. It is a very fun mindless time waster FPS.
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>>337325675
Nah it won't even come close to LoL just because it isn't free to play.

Also it is not a moba so uber casual and 12 year olds who can't aim will refuse to play it.
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>>337328697

>Yeah but like I'd try to talk to people I know about it and they would just get angry

Yeah because of Blizzard's head-up-their-ass policy of inviting a scarce handful of common peons and then almost entirely just streamers/youtubers besides.

>Now I check and they haven't gone 15 minutes without talking about the game and fawning over it.

Yes, because they've actually had a chance to play it for themselves.

Pretty simple really.
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>>337325761
Oh no, look at those sell outs, making something they think will sell.

That's no way to conduct an honest business!
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>>337328697
I don't understand what your problem is
>game is not playable
>not a lot of interest because can't try it out, not a lot to talk about because no experience
>game is playable
>a lot of interest, a lot to talk about
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>>337328568
because it was a BETA A BETA
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They smash it out of the park almost all of the time.
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>>337328859

>They needed something to keep them from going bankrupt with the shit they are doing with WoW so they pulled out their apparent best.

If Overwatch is Blizzard's "apparent best" I think they have a lot more problems than WoW's declining popularity.

Blizzard hasn't really been on a very good streak as of late. They've likely burned up a massive portion of their consumerbase's good will on all the schlock they've put out in recent years, and I really have to wonder what the hell they're going to do once Overwatch is out. I don't think there's anything else for them to work on at this point that people might actually look forward to.

>>337329104

This a joke m8?
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>>337329104
Except with HotS and Diablo 3. But Overwatch will probably be ridiculously popular for a little bit
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>>337325754
that's why heroes of the storm is much less popular than lol or dota
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>>337329179
>I don't think there's anything else for them to work on at this point that people might actually look forward to.

WC4 thats literally the only game people are waiting for don't know why they gave us a fucking tf2 rip off when they could made Warcraft 4.
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>>337329179
>This a joke m8?
I mean outside of HotS, all of their games are usually super popular and sell really well.

>>337329202
I mean Diablo 3 sold 30 million copies, 11th most sold game ever.
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>>337329179
Well, yes. That's basically what I was saying.

They have Hearthstone which gets played a bit and Diablo III expansion which also has less and less people playing it so you're right they have nothing left at this point other than Overwatch which isn't that wonderful to begin with.
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Needs more modes for me to commit, personally. The beta was very fun, but towards the end felt like you had seen and done everything and that can only hold my interest for so long. Not worth full price on release IMO
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>>337325761
Let's see your challenger account, bud.
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>>337329258
>They have Hearthstone which gets played a bit
Well, HS is an insane cashcow
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>>337328721
If you have to disable half the characters in the game that should tell you that the game mode doesn't belong in the game.
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>>337329234
I could also see them making a diablo 4 in a few years. If they could actually land the aesthetic of previous diablos, and they could if they actually tried, and the game was reasonably fun and well-designed I'd buy it for sure, and I think a lot of other people would as well.
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>>337329234

Do you really even fucking want modern Blizzard to try and make Warcraft 4 with the total shitshow of a mess we've been left after what WoW has done to the series? Really?

>>337329256

>all of their games are usually super popular and sell really well
>I mean Diablo 3 sold 30 million copies, 11th most sold game ever.

Diablo 3 sold on 95% nostalgia and nostalgia-fueled hype. Beyond that I am genuinely baffled as to how that fucking mess of a game could have sold so well because it sure as hell wasn't thanks to its sheer quality. I always continue to be flabberghasted by the sheer spinelessness of the average Blizzdrone.

That and there was that whole deal where if you bought a year WoW sub you got the game free that probably helped them.
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>>337325675
but overwatch wont be free meaning no third wold shitters or russians
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>>337326410
>>337326427
>people making a thread about a game they like is shilling
>not the tf2fags crying and posting the same "DAE TF2 better gaem?" in every ow thread
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>>337325675
Blizzard marketing

''give closed beta to ALL streamers ALL youtubers and open beta too''

Then the youtubers will shill 4 free because they want to be in on the hype for the views.
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>>337329465
>no third wold shitters or russians

I fail to see the problem.
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>>337329467
TF2 IS a better game. But I've put thousands of hours into at, and, well, I'm getting pretty tired.
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>>337328568
>fail

just because it doesnt make them 1000 trillion like WOW doesn't mean fail anon... not even on 4chan
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>>337329550
coming from a mid scout, no tf2 is not the better game, but as an esport, it's not receiving it's deserved attention
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>>337329565
>anon...
>...
can you go back to redit?
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>>337325675
>Overwatch will be the next LoL

No it won't

Not with being a paid game
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>>337328667
This.

No one has time to learn a whole new moba
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>>337329565

Uh no HotS is basically a wet fart in the wind compared to its 2 main competitors. The fact is Blizzard was a day late and a dollar short getting into the ASSFAGGOTS scene and their efforts only managed to carve out a minor niche more than likely supported mostly supported by their usual mindless fanbase.
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>>337325675
>Every young person I've talked to this week know what it is and even most of the girls have played it and loved it
>young person
>girls

fucking no please the people in this game is already retarded and adding those 2 will make this game unplayable and casual
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>>337328960
> Also it is not a moba so uber casual and 12 year olds who can't aim will refuse to play it.

Hero with beam weapon are here for them
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>>337329648
>le go back to redit

bro i have been here longer than you probably not that is a good accomplishment
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>>337329603
is mid scout code for low- open esea player whos never made it to playoffs?
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It's an ok game, alright. But it's "Baby's first team based shooter." Protip: Press q to win.
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>>337325675
the game is fun but it's shit to watch and that'll fuck it over as an esport.

it's an absolute clusterfuck. you can't see shit as a spectator.
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>>337325675
>it's 2016
>still shilling for mininmum wage at Blizzard
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>One man apocalypse tier
Roadhog

>Slut for hooks tier
Everybody else
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>>337325675
>How the fuck did Blizzard smash it out of the park this time?
Because its fun, and speaking personally myself a bunch of others like the fact its TF2 without a shitty bloat that TF2 got over the years with its retarded weapon drops.
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>>337329823
>he doesn't like to play with little girls

pleb
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>Overwatch will be the next LoL

Not even Blizzard fans can be this delusional.
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>>337325842
That image is bullshit it implys Bastions range is horrible.
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>>337330217
>its TF2 without a shitty bloat that TF2 got over the years with its retarded weapon drops
This.
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>>337328039

Evolve had actual original ideas and more content.
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>>337329823
Good thing it has a matchmaking system
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>>337328568
not enough hype
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>>337330217
I'm in this boat.

TF2 these days is full of furries, bronies, F2P scrubs and tryhard players with their own personal pocket medics.

It's just not fun anymore.
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>>337328345
No it had a beta where everyone saw it for the bland piece of shit it was, why do you think it sold like shit on release and nobody plays it?
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>>337330310

I remember back when they were saying that it was more than just a Team Fortress clone and had to immediately backtrack as soon as everyone played the game and realized it was just a dumbed TF2.
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>>337329407
The proposed idea was to disable weapons and abilities for anyone carrying the flag, which is already done in Halo.

Or make it so only certain characters can carry the flag, for instance making it so heavy that only tanks can move with it.

Or doing a PASS Time style mode.
https://youtu.be/GVtsiafPx-U?t=19
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>>337326546
Mann vs Machine knockoff with omnics as enemies.

Omnic kaiju that D.Va fights lore wise is the boss. It appears every x wave with a different configuration.
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>>337330217
>content and balance updates
>bloat
I see you people never played Vanilla TF2 where half of the classes were useless.
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>>337326703
Blizzard doesnt have an A-Team
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>>337330378
>No it had a beta where everyone saw it for the bland piece of shit it was

Just like with Overwatch.

Maybe you are just too used to the foul taste of unadulterated shit to realize it though.
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>>337330457
>I see you people never played Vanilla TF2 where half of the classes were useless.

Shills usually don't play games, they cannot afford computers in India.
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>>337330371
not even gonna bother, tf2 is the same shit it always was outside of a few broken unlocks crit a cola etc.
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i aint paying $40 for a arena shooter
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>>337330482
>Blizzard doesnt have an A-Team

That "A-Team" made a game so awfully bad that they had to completely scrap it and salvage what remained just to make a TF2 clone.
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>>337325675
>Overwatch will be the next LoL
That's what they said about HotS too, and that game is already dead, despite being f2p
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>>337330594
>broken unlocks
>crit a cola
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>>337326263
> Citing a desire to keep its game styles "simple", and because it contradicted its emphasis on accomplishing goals as a team rather than trying to achieve large numbers of kills, Overwatch will not contain a traditional deathmatch mode.[4][5]
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>>337325675

Only good thing to come from Overwatch is the ass
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The game will sell very well, but I don't think it will have the competitive esports shit they are looking for and I don't think it will be a hit on twitch (after the first few weeks)

Whether casuals will play it for a long time is hard to say
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>>337330151
This isn't a Battleborn thread.
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Only the porn will be good.
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>>337330787
No ass

Disgusting hair

Pixar face

Fuck this bitch. Literally worst girl after than Russian tumblrina.
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>>337330151
Literally every "esport" is shit to watch aside from Quake duels and that hasn't stopped them.
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>>337330638
>That "A-Team" made a game so awfully bad that they had to completely scrap it and salvage what remained just to make a TF2 clone.
It was scrapped because Activision wanted Destiny as the main mmo fps.
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>>337330894
Fighting games are fun to watch if you know the game well enough.
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>>337325675
>ridiculously popular.
>Every young person
>even most of the girls have played it and loved it.
>Blizzard smash it out of the park
Nice try, Mr. Shill. Your PR speak betrays you.
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If this is going to be the next lol then I hope it gets banned to /vg/ like lol did because I'm tired of seeing these shill threads.
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While you faggots are on the topic

http://www.strawpoll.me/10190906
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>>337331162
define worst
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>>337330491
>J-JUST LIKE OVERWATCH
>YOU GUYS AGREE WITH ME RIGHT?
>RIGHT???

Listen, I get it, you don't like the game and that's fine but to pretend that everyone else agrees with you is just embarrassing. You are clearly the minority here.
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t's just ridiculously popular. Every young person I've talked to this week shills it and even most of the girls have been paid to play it and shill on forums.

How the fuck did Blizzard shill it out of the park this time?
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>>337330894
Smash tournaments are pretty hype
I'd watch doto and HoN tournaments when I still played the games
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>>337331162
>fedoras voting for Soldier 76
Fucking idiots. His kit is viable unlike that of poo loo support or some other heroes.
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It'll be forgotten after a month by the average gamer like most games these days.
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>>337331204
i read this and then i think of diablo 3 at launch

and then i laugh
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CHEAS LAHV YA WANTA A CHEEKY COCKNEY ACCEANT AI LAHV

God whose idea was it to give her that fucking accent, let alone hire such a god awful voice actress for it.
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>>337325675
>Every young person I've talked to this week

are you pedo
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>>337331301
Its just 2 votes right now calm the fuck down
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>>337331162
>Voting for anything but D.Va.
She is the worst character by far, she either needs to be able to jet with her shields up or they need to buff her some other way.
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>>337331573
She can jet with her shields. Did you even play her?
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>>337331421
Why?
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>>337331651
>Did you even play her?
No I just complain about heroes that kill me. Bastion is the most over powered hero, he keeps killing me before I can snipe with Widowmaker.

I'm the typical Overwatch player.
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>>337326281
And they have 50 times more characters combined. What's you fucking point
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I don't have the money for it, so I will w8 for a month or so and see how it goes for overwatch. I kind of think it should be the wow killer.
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>>337330894
if you watch counterstrike you can easily follow most things because the fights are slow an spread out.
kinda the same thing for moba's I assume that have spread out tactical battles. don't really know since I don't watch that shit.

hell even hearthstone has the advantage of giving you a perfect view on every aspect of the game. it's the worst esport in existance and shouldn't even be called that but it has tons of viewers because it's so easy to follow.


now we have overwatch with 12 players in a small area that all spam their flashy abilities......nope.
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>>337326263
Why would they add a deathmatch mode when half of the heroes would be obsolete in that game mode.
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>>337331573
double her damage and she'd be perfect imo
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>>337331730
Half the cast can one shot Bastion for God's sake.
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Did I play some other Overwatch ? I played the beta and thought the whole thing was kinda mediocre. Some of the character design is cute tho.
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>>337331669
if it's anything like recent blizz releases, it's going to need about 1-2 dlcs to be worth buying

might even go f2p in that time, so yeah

if i want fanart i can just go to tumblr, don't even need to get the game
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>>337331747
>now we have overwatch with 12 players in a small area that all spam their flashy abilities

I know right? It is difficult to follow, as if arena shooters never had a following ever.
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>>337331812
Yes but while I come out and stand to charge my shot he kills me. Bastion is the more OP character.
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>>337329648
anon, i...
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>>337326825
>my adult games
>Anal incest sister 5
fuckin weeb.
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Reminder that there is no "A-team".

Faggots

Blizzard is just a mediocre dev that does this >>337325754 and makes bank on idiots, aka /v/.
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>>337329648
...
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>>337331836
What does that have to do with Diablo 3? The Launch of Diablo 3 wasn't shit because the games content was shit, but because it was a broken laggy mess with fucking real money auction house. The game itself was fine.

And we've played Overwatch. There is no real money bullshit, no laggy servers or broken connections. Its fine. So again, why bring up Diablo 3?
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>>337331874
>charge your shots while coming out
foreverbronze.jpg
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>>337328568

Conflict of interest.

A large shareholder of Blizzard also holds stock in Riot. They specifically don't want competition for LoL so they decreed as such. This is why HotS was made from the ground up without the intention of competing LoL and other mainstream MOBA titles but rather as a small scale cash grab on their properties.
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>>337328568
Everyone and their moms already had a mobashit game out so there's that

There aren't that many pixar shooters
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It's non-offensive family friendly nerd shit with streamlined gameplay and basic mechanics

Of course it has mass appeal, it's been carefully crafted to be that way
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The antiwatch shit posters reminds me when undertale got super popular. "I-its fun i guess but not... uhm.. that good". Its just hipster fucks who cant like massivly popular games.

I actually think that this game can become as huge as at least dota 2 easily. Every single person who is into video games i know talks about overwatch and what a great and fun game it is.
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I laugh. Yes, I laugh at you Overwatch fans. Simple minded creatures, the lot of you. Tis obvious that when Blizzards bell tolls it tolls for thee, you come running like little starving children looking for the next free meal. Little do you woeful beasts know that Blizzard have simply repackaged other games with their shiny brand. Its quite pathetic to see the little mice run around for this "game", if you can even call it that.

Perhaps one day you'll grow out of your pleb tastes and become a refined gentleman enjoying the more complex dishes the gaming industry has to offer, but till that time I laugh. Laugh and wipe a tear from my eye, you do all amuse me so.
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>>337332043
>The game itself was fine.
Not him
The gameplay was okay, everything around it was shit, mostly due to the RMAH
Blizzard tried to go full jew by giving everyone shit unusuable drops except for the super rare insane drop that's not for their class so they have to buy and sell everything on the RMAH so Blizz gets a cut
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>>337332043
just curious

did you miss out on the interview for their future monetization method?

>no laggy servers

i got kicked out of games a couple of times due to server crashes

but really, all this is besides the point, if you have faith that blizz really delivered with overwatch, preorder it, i don't care, it's not my money (and i'm not telling others to not buy the game)

i'm just voicing my observation on current blizz games and cited D3 release as an example, why are you so mad?
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>>337328119
>Outside of a couple details most of them really weren't memorable at all from what I played of the OB.
Plz tell me, you play it for shooty fun or to look at sunset over Route 66.
If second, drop gaming and go to uni for art class, its a nice place for faggots like you.

Also I remember most of Q2 maps to this day, but I fuckin spend months on them playing, we got like 4 days of open beta.
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>>337325675
How can anyone be so blind?
Did you not see all the Overwatch rant threads? All the complains about it's lack of content?
How many times have you sucked Blizzard's cock to be convinced about that shit?
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>>337332294
>i got kicked out of games a couple of times due to server crashes
Good for you, I didn't.

>did you miss out on the interview for their future monetization method?
DLC isn't a new, unexpected thing anon, be less retarded.

>why are you so mad
>Pulling the mad card
L O L
O
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>>337332229
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>>337332219
more like Overwatch fans are like Undertale fans since you both can't stop shilling your shit game everywhere and post your shit tier porn here.
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>>337329030
The problem is that it's becoming an industry standard. Some of us don't enjoy casualfests
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>>337325675
I like overwatch as much as the next guy but no game is going to be the next LoL for at least half a decade.
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>>337330378

>No it had a beta where everyone saw it for the bland piece of shit it was, why do you think it sold like shit on release and nobody plays it?

It sold like shit and nobody plays it because 2k games overpriced the fuck out of the game with a bajillion microtransactions and DLC.
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>>337332229
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>>337332443

What makes this game casual? It's not even released yet and you're all already complaining about unfairness in the characters.

It's like you want the game to be casual.
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>>337332349
i've already stated my reasons for not getting the game, not really sure what else you expect out of me

please just stop being mad that i'm not getting the game, be happy that i'm not playing

if you're going to be so defensive/retarded about your game just because someone else isn't going to buy it, i have no idea what else to say to you
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>>337328039
Battleborn is the next Evolve
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>>337332541
No it sold like shit because it was a shit game. People would have gobbled those microtransactions if the game was worth it.
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>>337328568
I like hots more than LOL, I play hots with my gf for chill....rly dont care if its big or small....its more fun, have more maps and heroes i know and like.

I only miss my 3 girls from lol, Nami, Lulu and Karma.
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>>337325675
I'm okay with this.

I don't hate LoL for it's popularity, but because it's boring as shit to watch, and play. Overwatch is the opposite, and has a lot more space for different strategies and a far higher degree of skill involved.

I'd love for it to overtake LoL, even if the fanbase must become cancerous to do so.
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>>337325675
>requires more than a toaster to run
Nam m8
LoL was popular because anyone's pc could run it
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>>337332847
Not with that pricetag.
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>>337325675

it's comfy and has cute girls
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>>337328039
I bought Evolve and Overwatch. There's some huge differences:

>Match time
Overwatch matches are between 7-12 minutes long. Easy to pickup and if your team sucks it's not a huge time waste. Evolve was 20-40 minute long matches

>change heroes on fly.
You can change your hero on the fly in overwatch, so if you're frustrated you can easily switch

>constant action
Evolve was mostly a boring hunt and it was really annoying constantly chasing the monster. Overwatch has plenty of action.

>people were forced to be on the side they didn't want in Evolve
Sometimes you had to play the monster, sometimes you had to play the hunter. Not fun if you don't like one of them

>class/hero unlocking .
You had to unlock classes in evolve. Overwatch doesn't have this issue

>level size
Evolve levels were too big for 5 total players

>performance
Evolve required too powerful of a rig.

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I played Overwatch.
I had fun. I played a lot for a while. Then I dropped it.
But, ffs, it only has thre motherfuckin gamemodes, with a fixed number of players. It have abilitys that scream "I'm not designed properly".Having autoaim as an ulti isn't op, but it still is conceptually broken. How delusive do you have to be to think you are going to play this shit without getting bored for more than a month?!

>>337325675
I mean, you are kidding, right? Personally, i think LoL is complete shit, but i can see how someone could get into it. But this..?

How can you blizzfags be so deep into your own ass? It is a fun game, but so was monday night combat.
Prepare for the same fate.
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It will probably reach the same popularity that HoTS did, seeing as it's essentially the same game but from a different perspective, I wouldn't be surprised if they used the same design document for both of them

People will be talking about it for a month and then afterwards the only mentions it will get will be people saying how not dead it is
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>>337333067
What about similarities though.

The big complaints about the price for one?
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ITT:We post things we want to believe is true in hopes of it actually becoming truth.

It's ridiculously amazing that we are getting a new Spore and the fact that they managed to get the trademark out of EAs dirty pawns. I can't wait for them to redeem Spore.
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>>337332229
*tips fedora*
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>>337329268
>5year old attencion span.
No wonder they make new cod/assasin every year.
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>>337333174
I can't believe that Pharah is actually real and agreed to be my loving wife.
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>>337332380
The reason why there are so many "shills" is because they are both games that a huge majority thinks are really fun and fantastic games. Its just a small minoritet who cant handle games being a huge success that people really like and wanna talk about. The worst thing is when people who likes similar games (like battleborn for overwatch and lisa for undertale ) come into threads and try to shill their games for not being as good and successful.

Fucking hipsters
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>>337332653

The game was fine at the start albeit some balancing issues but they worked and tweaked on it. Then suddenly 2k games started launching massive amounts of DLC everywhere out the wazoo and the pricing was stupidly high that people just got turned off by having to pay an overpriced season pass(every season pass is overpriced anyway because they're basically interest free loans to the company) and $5 USD for each new character not to mention all the skins so that's like over $200 worth of shit right there.

The problem also is that some players just couldn't git gud as well and demanding incessant nerfs for things that weren't broken while the things that were broken got fixed but too ages to do so. So as a result player retention dwindled because casuals weren't getting catered too.
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>>337333083
Just compare Overwatch to BF3-4, same wasteland after a month.

Just because you try to retool classes as heroes you think you get a pass?
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I used to be butthurt as fuck about OW copying my favorite game but after playing it I understand the hype.

that being said I still think not being F2P is stupid and OW will never surpass LoL in active players
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>>337332557
Because of how easy it is to play?
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>>337333143
Well overwatch is 33% less than Evolve. But these differences I mentioned are huge. Evolve's cash shop was not an issue, the game play itself was. I spent dozens of hours in Evolve, and I spent many hours during the free Overwatch beta. I can guarantee you that Overwatch will have much more lasting power than Evolve.

Everyone I joined a game in Evolve, it felt like a major investment in time and energy. And a lot can go wrong which will cause a snowball effect in the game that can't be recovered from, leading to early quits.

Overwatch is so carefree and fun, matches are short, you can completely change your team composition on the fly, and the action and levels are tight. It's going to be a huge success.

Sent from my iPhone
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>>337333356
personally im going to hold out on it being f2p
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>>337332847
Comp play have consistent soley on 1 gimmick team comp that stays super strong with no counters until blizzard nerfs a part of what games the comp broken.

Examples: double winston was super broken. Blizzard nerfs winstons shield so its super mediocre with two winstons and even more shit with 1.

Than there comes a comp with 4 supports and genji+tracer that gets run on all the maps until blizzard nerfed the fuck out of zenyatta and symmetra.

Overwatch will never be balanced enough that varier team comps will work. It will just be a mirror match of the best comps until it dies out. The game being about counter picking just doesnt work with how inherently broken the heroes are to each other.
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>>337329216
HOTS is a direct competitor, stealing the market share of lol and dota by doing the same thing it's like trying to compete with Mcdonald's selling shitty cheap excuses for burgers.
OW takes some of the features of already popular games (Tf2, mobas, arena shooters...) and mix them in a user friendly and catchy way. the game doens't bring anything new to the table in terms of mechanics, gameplay, tacticts, etc., but still it's a shift in the paradigm, and it's fresh enough for people to give it a try.
that's why I see this game becoming extremely popular in the next year. after 5/6 years playing LoL/dota people want something new, while keeping the same base mechanics at the same time.
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>>337333452
Hey thanks, I appreciate your insight.

I don't agree with the long term success of the game but I guess only time will tell.
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>>337333273
The characters will be free.
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>>337325675
By making and marketing a no skill required casualshit game to appeal to casuals.

It looks like they succeeded.
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>>337325675
Nice try Blizzard shill.
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This game will be free to play in less than a year. There's no way such a shallow game will have a dedicated fanbase past a few months from now.
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>>337333562

I am talking about Evolve there, not Overwatch. I know they're free in Overwatch.
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>>337325675
LOL I will never play this game
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Overwatch is pretty fucking hilarious when the entire team all goes the same character.

>6 Junk rat
AUTOBOTS ROLL OUT
>6 Mei
WE NEED TO BUILD A WALL
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>>337333569
>look at me i'm so hardc0r
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>>337333356
I don't get why people are mad about the payment model.
They're not ransoming you with season passes, the price tag is lower than that of an AAA game and you're not buying a game that will lose support and playerbase next year because a new version is released.
A price tag like that doesn't even stop kids except the ones that don't get anything. The neet can wait for their birthday or save up their allowance.

If you're mad about a one-time payment of 40 bucks for a game that's planned to stay at least 5 years you need to get your priorities straight. This is litterally the best choice of payment model.
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>>337333691
Not even when all your online and IRL friends play it?
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>>337325754
LMAO I can hear you sucking off Blizzard from here bro, calm down
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>>337325675

Im hoping to pulls enough from the steam source game crowd to warrants Gabe to make a new game.

Hoping OW is a TF2 killer
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>>337333484
>>337333484
don't hold your breath it is blizzard we are talking about
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>>337330603
get a job berniecuck
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>>337333759
God this is so stupid, I stopped liking the game after the open beta and I know I'll get complaints for months about not buying it
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>>337333542
It will definitely be a hit for several months. It's not going to be dead on arrival like Evolve was.

The gameplay is just so extremely tight and well done. I get the same feeling playing it as I did playing Tf2 back in 2007. The fact that it heavily rewards playing with friends, such as custom skins and emotes, extra xp, synergy between many classes, means word of mouth is going to cause people to convince their friends to buy it. This game is going to shake the FPS market, and I'm interested to see which valve FPS games suffer a player migration.

Sent from my iPhone
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>>337330689
Streamers still stream, people still play, tournaments stil roll.
DEAD GAME!

Fuck off weeb.
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>>337330256
BEEP BOOP BEEP!
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>Blizzard releases a game that perfectly caters to pathetic waifufags on a vietnamese cartoon board
>oh my God, is this the new best game period?
>MEI IS THICC
>BEST HIPS 10/10

kekerino
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>>337330879
>Literally worst girl after than Russian tumblrina

Beta cuck afraid of strong women.
Dont be mad, she just want to hug you like big fuzzy syberian bear.
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Does Amazon not sell the 40 dollar version? I want to use my prime and get it cheaper than using battlenet.
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>>337333753
Why spend $40 when the market is pretty much saturated with games, plus when the game goes f2p I won't have to spend a single dollar to play the game.
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>Casualized TF2 with Disney princesses

I can see why you all "like" this game
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>>337333826
if it doesn't go f2p there's still an insane amount of other video games i can play

by the the overwatch hype will be long dead and no one else would bother with the game

it going f2p in the future is a no brainer, and if it doesn't, i can just play other video games

maybe in the future when it's value is more apparent
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>>337334027

It is a known fact that waifufaggotry clouds the mind and perception of what makes a game "good". Just look at TERA or Waframe. The core driving force behind their popularity isn't because the games are good, it's simply wankbait.
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>>337331162
>that many votes for mei
Why? She's really powerful.
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>>337334064
Because by then the game won't be worth playing. The best time to play these type of games is always early in its life or not at all.
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>>337334163
they think 'worst' means the one they hate the most
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>>337334064
I'd rather have a paywall to keep out the children and foreigners. TF2 went downhill fast when it went f2p.
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>>337330256
just ignore the people that defend bastion
his inevitable nerf is going to be so hiliarious, to see all their crying flood the boards, flood reddit, flood the general

be prepared
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>>337333746
>le hardcore

If you play other fps you should be able to wreck everyone with ease. Most people suck at this game.
Characters have little depth and the tactics you have to apply are pretty simple. It just gets really boring after a couple of hours and you realize it's just an overpriced Dirty Bomb meets TF2.
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>>337334187
The game isn't even worth playing now though. A few hours of the free beta was all you needed to experience how shallow it truly is.
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>>337334375
Ok then, go and play your deep meaningful games that are apparently so good.
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>>337333868
It's just that I find it highly unlikely for people to want to pay $40 for this.

And the people that do, I find it unlikely they'll play for more than a month.

And this is why I believe it's going to go f2p.

And why I'm holding out on not buying the game.
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>most of /v/ loves Overwatch but hates Counter Strike

What a bunch of fucking casuals. Is this everyone's first FPS or something? Why is everyone on the VIDEO GAME board so fucking bad at video games?
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>>337334342

Overwatch is already at the bottom of the hill by being the most casual shit ever conceived by Blizzard along with Hearthstone and HotS.
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it was pretty boring
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>>337334187
I don't want to spend $40 on a game with an expiry date. That's a horrible reason to play any game.
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>>337334470
Do you get paid for shilling?
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>>337334480
Why? It's less than most new FPS games, has more content, and the game play is unlike anything you'll find in another game.

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Someone post the columbine reaper shop please
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>>337334538
i like CS but they are extremely different games
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>>337333498
Blizzard just needs to hire a better balance team because they are shit at it. LoL manages to have decent comp diversity (at least back in S5 when I watched) despite tons of champions and is still fun to play even if the meta is dictated by Riot.

No reason Blizzard can't do the same.
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>>337333437
If you want complex game try some tabletop.
First read 200p book with core rules, than around 40-50p on your army, than to understand your enemy 12x50p on other armies, than additional formations, books and rules witch change constantly and every 4 years there is big edition change.

You are casual if you play video games.
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>>337330879
Don't talk shit about my waifu
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>>337334470

How much does Blizzard pay you, bro?

How long did it take the devs to make the porn to get /v/'s attention?

I have to say, using Tracer's butt in a marketing stunt was pretty crafty.
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>>337334746
Why are you shitposting on /v/?
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>not f2p
>no addictive IP collecting system or some shit (I assume maybe I'm wrong)
>directly competiting with CS:GO

it's pretty much dead on arrival
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>>337334601
>It's an "Everybody who disagrees with me is a shill" episode
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>>337334818
>Dead on arrival
>Blizzard
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>>337334375
Git gud, faggot.
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>>337334825
>it's a "trust me I'm not a shill" episode
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>>337327398
this gave me a funny
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>>337334610
The only interesting content to me are the characters, and I can get those from fanworks.

The gameplay is comparable to any other arena shooter.

Why spend less when I can spend nothing.

Sorry if I come off sounding rude, but that's what I think.
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>>337325675
I'm thinking about getting it but on launch day will they be selling origin edition in stores for consoles?
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>>337335157
>playing it on consoles
for what purpose?
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>>337335027
Game play is not comparable to any arena shooter.

Sent from my iPhone
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BAN THE FUCKING PHONE USER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE KYS NORMIE PHONE USER YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>337335349
I don't feel like upgrading my pc beyond playing wow, much more convenient to buy it for the console.
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>smash it out of the park this time?

Stopped reading here
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>>337335494
It runs fine on my study laptop and It's not a memegamer laptop
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>>337332380
So are Dark Souls player ?
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>>337335494

>playing a fast-paced competitive shooter at 30 fps
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>>337326546
>CTF
worst gamemode in existence
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>>337335708
>fast-paced competitive shooter
>overwatch
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>40 dollars for a mediocre TF2 clone with very little content and no mod support
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It's basically TF2 if it were released in 2016. It's a concept you can't fuck up if you are a big company like Blizzard.
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>>337335708
30 fps on console vs 20 fps on PC. Simple math.
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>>337336206
It's different in gameplay so it's not a clone but it does fit the same niche yes.
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>>337335653
I was thinking about getting it for pc but when I was installing the beta on my pc it said I don't meet the minimum requirements.
>>337335708
It didn't feel very fast spaced and I played quake and quake 3 arena a lot back in the 90s.
>>337335763
Been playing since 2006 so why quit now, plus I want to play demon hunter.

Fine I'll buy it for the pc but I'm going to be pissed if it runs like shit and I'm going to complain a lot on /v/ about you guys tricking me.
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>>337331162
Junkrat. Literally Trevor-tier kuhrayzeeeee character for edgelords who are self-aware enough not to main Reaper.
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>>337336206
>It's basically TF2

Valve wouldn't release TF3 in such a sorry state, the game is extremely similar apart from ultimates and being way more dumbed down.
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>>337336341
Consider the following:
you may eventually upgrade your pc even if you don't right now.
Playing on console will lock you in that paradygm.
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>>337336312
>It's different in gameplay

No it's not, most classes perform the exact same roles as in TF2. The game modes are basically identical.
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Any ausfags know where I can buy the game for $40 USD so the exchange rate is proper? Blizz is over charging by about $15.
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Posting best character
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TF2 is good for passing time until the 24th.
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>>337336416
>and being way more dumbed down.
How so? All the characters that are parallels to tf2 characters are just more complicated versions. For instance, mercy is medic, but she has to alternate between damage and healing instead of just holding down left click all the time, doesn't have the luxury of invincibility for defense and must use her shift to evade danger instead, and has to time resurrects correctly to get the most out of them. There's a whole lot more to pay attention to when playing as mercy than there is when playing as medic. Playing medic in tf2 is a snoozefest in comparison.
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>>337336609
>tfw you hold out for that last bit of hope that OW inspires valve to make TF3
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Fuck I hope so.
Please just bury all that ASSFAGGOTS trash and never dig it up again.
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>>337336609
>Valve wouldn't release TF3 at all

Yeah they would rather update and improve TF2 rather than milking their own fanbase. They would only release TF3 if there was a great technical or gameplay innovation behind it.

And Overwatch is a joke compared to Team Fortress 2, the level and visual design is significantly worse. The game requires a lot less skill to play, some classes are literal dumbed down versions of TF2 classes and some are just completely worthless.
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>>337328223
F
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>>337336472
>everybody has an uberchage like game changing ability
>barriers
>different kind of healing
>more classes get headshots
>less physics based
>no opposing control point maps
No it's similar but not a clone, stop trying to push that. It's like saying shogi is a chess clone.
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>>337336741
if a med dies he drops all his uber, if a mercy dies she loses nothing. med can also over heal this is a great boon for his team and he can heal long range with the crossbow.
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>>337336903
>Valve not milking the fanbase

This is why TF2 has cosmeticitems that cost 100$ and dota 2 arcanas for 30 dollar and this is just the things that you can buy if you want some of the other items you have to spend 200 $ opening chests or spending crazy money on compendiums.

Lets be honest here Valve knows how to hide the milking very good.
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>>337332847
I found this to be interesting.

https://www.google.com.au/trends/explore#q=overwatch%2C%20battleborn%2C%20%2Fm%2F060phy%2C%20dota%202%2C%20%2Fm%2F04n3w2r&cmpt=q&tz=Etc%2FGMT-10

Trends search of OW,BB,TF2,Dota2 and LoL
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>>337336472
This
Pherah, Junkrat, Mei, Mercy, Torbjorn, etc are basically their TF2 counterparts but 'rebalanced'. The core skills and mechanics to play these characters are indistinguishable from one another, it's just a matter of getting used to the slight differences from each character

Same goes for the game modes and maps. Can't wait till they add 2-way cp mode
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>>337336903
>They would only release TF3 if there was a great technical or gameplay innovation behind it.
Lets look at what valve released the last few years
>portal 2, has some new mechanics but nothing revolutionary
>dota 2, is a clone
>cs: go, is basically a clone
>nothing else
Valve gives zero shits about gameplay innovation currently, it's all about "E-sports" and cashing in on already existing games by cloning them and stuffing them full of cosmetics

if valve cared about gameplay innovation they sure as hell aren't showing it
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>>337336903
>Yeah they would rather update and improve TF2 rather than milking their own fanbase

Yeah valve would NEVER milk their own fanbase. It's not like the only updates TF2 gets is skins and other dumb shit that doesn't matter. Nope no milking at all.
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>>337336440
Alright I bought it, if it doesn't run very good at release I guess I'll just buy a new video card and other things next month.
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>>337336741

Pharah is literally a dumbed down version of the Soldier, she is specifically designed for people who are too shit to play that class properly in TF2.

Mercy is the medic with more mobility so you never have to think about proper positioning or self-defense. And her damage boost is completely brainless compared with something like the Vaccinator.

Bastion is literally a Wrangler Engineer excepting with a free heal and instant mobility. Junkrat is the Demoman excepting you need to aim less and is also way more spamable since you have infinite ammo.

There are very few unique classes in Overwatch.
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>>337337072
that still leaves different characters.
if you had a tf2 mod with additional classes you wouldn't argue i's tha same thing now would you?
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>>337326450
what did you expect autist?
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>>337337072
>mei
Jesus christ, Mei is nothing like the pyro, the only similarity is that they both have a spray weapon
Pyro lights people on fire, reflects projectiles and basically only works in close range. Mei has a sniper weapon, can build walls, can become invulnerable and has single target and and AoE stun.
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>>337337145
>origins edition
Congratulations, you just blew 20 bucks on some shitty skins you retard.
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>>337336947
>everybody has an uberchage like game changing ability

Most of them are aimbots, wallhacks, AoE abilities, they make the game less skill-based and more about knowing when to use those abilities.

>barriers

Not a major change.

>different kind of healing

All the supports are worthless excepting for Mercy, if you are not using her then you are a complete idiot.

>more classes get headshots

Aka more hitscan shit.

>less physics based

Aka dumbed down.

>no opposing control point maps

Aka less content.
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>>337326627
That's not the point of the thread faggot
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>>337337283
Baby Wintson was worth it.
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>>337336563
This bad boy and Genji were the only characters worth giving a fuck about.
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>>337337054
>cosmetic items

What's the problem with cosmetic items?
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>>337326197
>skins
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>>337337342
I love his heal, it's so powerful. I can get like 5k selfheal in one game.
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>>337337337
I'm pretty sure it wasn't.
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>>337332043
> game itself was fine
Jesus Christ man, I agree that after 3 years of patches and 1 expansion they game is fun to play for a while, specially with seasons, but game at launch was a terrible steaming pice of shit
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>>337325675
>young person
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>>337337295
lucio is actually marginally better than mercy.
this is coming from a person who waifus mercy and i played 26 hours of her in the beta
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But tf2 friends, Overwatch is actually fun.
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>>337335494
game runs at 120fps constant on a fucking i3 6100 and 760, its time to upgrade.
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>>337332349
This guy
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>>337337081
>portal 2, has some new mechanics but nothing revolutionary

It had the paint mechanics from Tag. Nintendo later made Splatoon with the same paint mechanics and claimed it to be revolutionary.

>dota 2, is a clone

It's a remake of one of the most influential games of the past decade. It was the first major F2P game to not have any P2W bullshit.

>cs: go

That's a remake too. It was also a huge improvement in terms of visuals and technical stuff like matchmaking.
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>>337337295
>All the supports are worthless excepting for Mercy
>Lucio, a character that can win games by just existing
>Useless
>Zenyatta, a character that can make tanks disappear
>Useless
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>>337337295
>Most of them are aimbots, wallhacks, AoE abilities, they make the game less skill-based and more about knowing when to use those abilities.
So you agree it's different?
>Not a major change.
yeah, tell me how an anwser to eplosive spam is not a mjor change
>All the supports are worthless excepting for Mercy, if you are not using her then you are a complete idiot.
Not only you are wrong but this also brings strong non-support heals
>Aka more hitscan shit.
Actually a lot of projectiles headshots too, overwatch is suprisingly balanced between hitscan and projectile
>Aka dumbed down.
So we agree it's different?
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>>337337231

Mei is literally worthless.
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>>337336741
Pherah has her rocket jump tied to a single button press as opposed to a complex mouse movement followed by a click and further manipulation through movement keys and mouse movements. Not to mention the drawbacks of losing health as opposed to a cooldown mechanic - where being squishier for better position poses a higher/risk reward versus "oh can I do this now? I guess I will. If I can't I'll just wait and do something else"

And yes I know Pherah can rocket jump too. But you'd never do it because she is squishy enough as it is and she doesn't get the insane height and mobility Solder does. Not to mention she simply doesn't need to because of her different toolkit
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>>337337464

Lucio is a situational pick at best.
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>>337337529
>picking Zenyatta under any circumstances

Kill yourself.
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>>337337667
what a reluctant way to say he shines in koth
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"That's a fine how do you do"

What did Junkrat mean by this? Aussies translate pls.
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>>337325675
JUSTICE
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>>337334480
>want to pay $40 for this

In a world of $60 games, how is $40 a high price point? It seem right in line with where the game should be cost wise. No single player story mode so dump the cost by a 1/3.

Look I get we are all jews who are spoiled by sub $10 bundle packs and steam sales but it's not like $40 is high price or anything. Streaming movies sell for $15-20 on itunes. So a game is not worth two movies?

$40 is what a lot of season passes sell for now. Hell $40 it's not even a full tank of gas on most cars.
It's an ok price point for Overwatch you fucking uber jews.
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>>337335598
Well that was the end of the post, anon. What the fuck else were you gonna read?
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>>337337667
i dunno, when i have him on my team he's pretty damn useful.
also the entire competitive scene would disagree with you.

but hey, maybe you're right.
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>>337337667
Lucio is S tier, its never a bad time to run him
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>>337337557
>So you agree it's different?
Barely
>yeah, tell me how an anwser to eplosive spam is not a mjor change
That's as stupid as thinking that a wall will stop the flow of immigrants.
>non-support heals
The only ones that are any good are literally copied from TF2 (sandwich and repair)
>overwatch is suprisingly balanced between hitscan and projectile
It just has a lot more hitscan than TF2. It's gunplay is a lot more generic.
>So we agree it's different?
Yeah, in that it's dumbed down.
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Even my brother harps on about Overwatch, a clear indicator that it's for plebs
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10191314
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>>337337837
>competitive scene for a game that's not even out
>competitive scene for a game that's confirmed to be doa
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>>337332229
>finally realizing that Blizzard is only good at polishing the formulas created by others and absolute shit at polishing their own games with their sequels
I actually hope you're only a newfag because you're otherwise the slowest poke of them all.
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>>337337786
>So a game is not worth two movies?

No.

I can also buy good movie tickets for less than 10 dollars.

>Streaming movies

Literally plebeian.
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>>337337667
He's the best alternative if you need a healer that isn't Mercy
His round start is amazing along with his LMB, does decent damage and covers area well
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>Lets hire a voice actress who doesn't know how to replicate a decent cockney london accent for Tracer

>lets pay her a lot of money for her shit performance
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>>337337962
>competitive scene for a game that's not even out
well the closed beta has been out for quite some time, and it IS a competitive game.
so yes, there is a competitive scene
>dead on arrival
have you not been on /v/ and /vg/ the past week? half the assholes on this site have enjoyed the game and i'd bet that half of THOSE assholes have preordered.

next time, please show your working out.
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>put le sexy girl characters with meme personalities in the game
>limit acces to increase demand
>horny closet neckbeards play it
>i'm so geeky tumbler girl gamers play it
>their sheep friends also play it

Success.
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>>337337897
Do you compare your dicks often? Post pics.
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>>337337897
Must run in the family since Nichijou is a pleb anime
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>>337334480
Alright, I'll see you in 2 years when all the decent players are out of your reach and you are stuck with a flock of free to play babbies
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>>337337928
>thinks Blizzard convoluted and over-designed shit can compete with Valve's elegant design
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>>337338064
Her voice is so sexy.
>Tracer will never ride your cock and say "The calvery has arrived."
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>>337325675
It's a marketing achievement for sure. Shit game though.
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>>337338138
>alpha scout
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>People think Bastion is going to get a nerf

A rework, sure!

But its to make him more powerful at higher level play, not weaker.
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>>337338091
>it IS a competitive game

It's less competitive than fucking CoD.
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>>337338198
it is team versus team
one wins
one loses
do you know what a competition is
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>>337325675
>How the fuck did Blizzard smash it out of the park this time?
They have the magical status of being a known company to normies, so anything they put out is automatically assumed to be amazing.
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>>337338131

It's going free 2 play in less than 6 months. It already has fucking skins, crates and currency.
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>>337334768
>>337334032
I want to like her.

But her hair, why
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>>337337283
>mfw watching people like you throw hissy fits when I get POTG as overgrown Bastion
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>>337334163
She's bottom of the barrel you inbred faggot, completely useless in premades.
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>>337337165
>>337337602
Nobody except tf2 nostalgia nerds give a shit about the rocket jumping mechanic being taken out. It adds nothing to the gameplay except a need for muscle memory. It's like the SC:BW hipsters who think extra APM = better gameplay. It's elitist and nonsensical. Making movement intuitive leaves room to focus on more important game elements.

>>337337165
>There are very few unique classes in Overwatch.
Over half the roster doesn't bare even a slight resemblance to any of the classes in TF2. DVA. Reinhardt. Zenyatta. Zarya. Reaper. Tracer. And saying pharah is a soldier clone is like saying every FPS on the market is a wolfenstein clone.
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>>337338290
Not even Tortanic went F2P that fast and that was legitimately dead on arrival
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>>337338181
they should just make him the tf2 heavy
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>>337338175
>have sex with Tracer
>she comes
>then uses recall for secondary climax
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>>337338372

Tortanic was profitable from day one.

Blizzard has to make up for 7 years of wasted money, on a MMO more massive than fucking WoW, before they get any profit.
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>>337337928
Does Overwatch have a meet the team series like TF2?
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>>337338181
He already got a rework.
They removed the shield and made him able to turn 360 degrees.
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>>337338119

Ok
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>>337338486
That was one, and they said they need to do more work due to him not being picked in high-level matches at all.

Because he's shit as soon as people aren't retards.
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>>337338369
>Nobody except tf2 nostalgia nerds give a shit about the rocket jumping

This shill is being too obvious now.
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Since the only micro transaction is loot boxes, i wonder how much they will cost.
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>>337338583
Ya, nice try valve shill. Nobody is interested in your silly hat collecting game anymore. It's time for you to give up and face the fact that tf2 is no longer relevant.
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>>337338465
>Tortanic was profitable from day one.
Tortanic wasn't profitable until F2P with their jewish tricks, it was below a god damn Tiger Woods golf game in earnings before that.
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>>337338465
>Tortanic was profitable from day one.
not even fucking close
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>>337338198
I don't know if CoD has big teams behind it, but OW had some since the earliest phases of Closed Beta.
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>>337338369
>DVA.
One of the few original characters, although her playstyle comes from Battlefield.
>Reinhardt
Demoknight with more health and a massive shield.
>Zenyatta.
Worthless, all the healers are variations on Medic anyway.
>Zarya.
Shit Heavy with shields.
>Reaper
Dead Ringer Spy with a teleport.

>Tracer
Scout with a free heal.
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More like
OVERSHILL
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>>337334163
>mei
>Why?

being freeze/stun mechanics suck ass in a FPS action shooter. Everyone hates them being they remove being able to counter, at all. It's sucks the fun out of the a battle to get locked into place.

at least most of the other stuns or locks in game have some element you can avoid or a longer cool down. Where as Mei just runs around with her little freeze gun out spaming it everywhere. Then if you get frozen and just sit there watching her shoot you in the head a couple of times.

I don't think she is really OP or anything being you can splatter her pudgy ass with zero effort with most classes. Yet she is still very, very annoying to run into randomly in game.
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>>337325675
It's only popular cause people wanna jack it to Tracer and Widowmaker's asses and the gameplay is pretty solid.
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>>337336903
Valve already ruined TF2 with the Uber update. Every update since has been stomping on the corpse, not improving it.
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>>337338579
>Because he's shit as soon as people aren't retards.
Then he's fine, because "pro" players are retards. High-level retards.
The theorycrafters establish a meta, which they keep following blindly, but they lack any kind of skill or situational awareness to deal with outside-the-box picks.
Bastion isn't being played in "comp" matches because he's shit. It's because someone simply decided he's shit.
Same shit happened with TF2 competitive scene. 6v6 meta is stupid, and they had to ban half the classes and weapons because they didn't fall into their arbitrary established meta. Highlander is the only true way to play TF2 competitively.
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>Tracer will never call you a cunt
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>>337338741
>Tortanic wasn't profitable until F2P with their jewish tricks

And Overwatch will never ever be profitable. There is no way for Blizzard to recover from the massive blunder that was Titan's cancellation.
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>>337338818
I can't tell if your stupid or just baiting, so good job I guess. If for some reason your serious this post is reaching for the moon.
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>>337338465
>Tortanic was profitable from day one.
I get you want to shitpost Overwatch, but you're just embarrassing yourself now.
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will we still get boxes on lvl up?
will there still be coins in them?
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>>337338884
I didn't say pro.

I said higher-level matches.

I.E people who have played the game longer than a day or two.

Nothing to do with "meta", its people realizing that he has counters and how to use them.
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>>337338878

The Uber update made the game better than ever and also radically increased the playerbase.
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>>337338369
I just said what it adds to the gameplay, I just talked about how the thought processes behind a Solder rocket jump and Pherah shift jump are completely different, despite giving a similar result (height advantage, better positioning to land good rockets)
And movement is one of the biggest game elements of an FPS! Dumbing it down to simplicity just reduces the skill ceiling by a whole
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>>337338884
Bastion is shit as soon as people have the slightest bit of awareness, there's also plenty of easy ways to kill him.
>>337338913
>And Overwatch will never ever be profitable
Don't underestimate Blizzdrones, Titan may have been reworked three or four times, but they still shit out money to them somehow.
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You must be with idiots because everytime Overwatch comes up, everyone's just rolling eyes around here
Who wouldn't, the game is garbage
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>>337338886
>Tracer will never call you a gobsmot yelli-nelly intcha tool shed innit
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>>337338884
People keep going on and on about the "high level meta" and "comp scene" but where are these tournaments actually fucking happening
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>>337338976
>are completely different

It's the same fucking principle, get to a higher position to gain an advantage over the enemy. It's just much, much easier to do with Pharah since it's fucking automatic.
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>>337339070
Blizz invited a bunch of hastily composed teams of "pro" fps rejects from other esports to play against each other on their closed custom servers.
Obviously, nobody watched that.
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>>337339070
the last one was like 2 days before beta ended, the team with blatant hackers won. (warden is trash)
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>>337326546
A survival mode
>>
Blizzard lives purely off of it's fanboys. Everyone I've known that had interest in trading card games thought Hearthstone was uninteresting, everyone that likes MOBAs hated Heroes of the Storm. People are willing to try new genres though if Blizzard makes a game in that genre and then they can capitalize on the appeal of that genre. Since trading card games aren't really that popular Hearthstone was a huge success and since MOBAs are already very popular few people cared about HOTS. We'll see what happens with this game.
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>>337334813
You should probably make this posty a sticky.
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>>337338369
rocket jump is more interesting than the jump jets because you can chain them together instead of it being limited by a a fucking cooldown
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>>337338884
Bastion has been played as niche pick in a comp that focuses on getting him into position and protecting him.

He requires tons of effort to be viable at highest level. Half the roster barely sees any play, since they either have slightly too big weakness or can't simply measure up to McCree's current form.
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>fanboys
Holy fuck this mentality is not worthy of an adult-
>/v/
>adult
Nevermind, carry on.
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>>337328568
Did it really? Only Moba I play is League of Legends because they let you play a loli and I already spent TONS of money buying skins.
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>>337338658
>loot boxes
>cost

depends if they go with basic loot boxes or more rare players specific loot boxes with pay only like content in them. I'm not spending money for random loot boxes like we get at each level up. 21 heroes and a lot of junk drops in those sort of loot boxes. It's not worth buying if one was trying for say a new Mercy skin. The odds are just terrible.

my only debate is if I save up my early loot boxes on launch or open them as I get them. Sort of want to pop say 10 at a time vs 1 every now and then.
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>>337333356
>TF2 is favourite game
>wanting OW to be F2P
But F2P is the exact thing that killed TF2.
Having to buy the game keeps out all the shitters and slavs who play for 30 minutes then never boot the game again. Server bloat is what killed TF2, not hats.
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Why do people on this board act as if they have a stake in game companies?
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>>337330879
>Fuck this bitch
We are in agreement.
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>>337325675
No. LoL is popular because it's free, and runs on a toaster. Overwatch is neither of those things
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>>337331162
>poo in the loo
As expected.
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>>337333542

It'll probably dominate for 1 to two years until the next big thing comes along, I doubt it'll have the staying power TF2 had. Although Bliz will likely consider the F2P with cosmetic economy at a later date (half the framework is already there) once the game loses momentum.

Then you'll have two fun class based shooters wrecked by NEETs and trader fags.
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People haven't had a multiplayer FPS that is just dumb fun for a while. They've mainly been realistic-ish bland shooters with real, boring guns.

I've never bought a Blizz game, but I will be buying this.
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>>337339158
No.
Solder loses health to do that, which means he has to think twice about every rocket jump because everytime he does it he becomes easier to kill, and he has to go back to a medkit or medic to nullify his initial risk. Pharah is just put into a cooldown state where she has do other strategies to prolong her advantage or retreat so she can do it again.
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>>337339535
Ya that is the reason I'm buying it, its more goofy fun than tf2.
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>>337339446
MGE me faggot
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The same way LoL did. Simple gameplay, addictive sense of progression, bright colors, quirky cast of characters for people to latch on to. And all the marketing, of course. Any company can make their game a thing with an infusion of advertising
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>>337325675
If this turns out to be true I will never fucking play it again. I hate lol because it's so fucking casual. Disgusting normies ruining my fucking industry. Pure cancer.
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>>337339609
Me and all my friends used to play TF2 together and now we all live in the same house and can play Overwatch as a group which is a big draw for us since its way better when we are communicating and working s a team.
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>>337326458
it is very likely, the queues take longer the larger your party is because it tries to find the best equivalent of premade players on the opposite team. i'm not sure if it's based on combined MMR or just total party members but i can confirm it definitely takes longer to queue because of one or both of those things.
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>>337338369
Would you say this about combos in fighting games? It's a satisfying feeling to perform something difficult that you've managed to engrave into your muscle memory. The appeal of action games has always been partly the mechanical(non-strategic) challenge that comes with real-time gameplay. It's not always about elitism.
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>>337325675
By having female characters that are attractive

Seriously. That's it.
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>>337339743
Do you fuck each other? As friends, I mean.
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>>337338369
Sometimes I honestly think these posts aren't trolling and it makes me sad.
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>>337339776
When i group with 5 friends it takes way longer to find a game.
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>>337326356

it has an assfaggots skill system. If you're played shooters and assfaggots and then play Overwatch, you see the similarities. it's certainly not just a shooter alone.
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>>337325795
Obviously is shilling-astro turfing, but I played the game myself it's the next LoL depending on there next moves.
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>>337339552
>Solder loses health to do that, which means he has to think twice about every rocket jump because everytime he does it he becomes easier to kill

You are making a great job at explaining why Pharah is just a dumbed down version of the soldier. Like you have to actually think in TF2.
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>>337339936
I guess TF2 is an assfaggots too, because classes there have skills too, like primary weapon, secondary weapon and even a melee weapon. And they even have the ultimate skill - uber charge.
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>>337328568
Because having to pay for heroes is fucking ridiculous.
It worked when LoL came out but now people don't expect to pay for that.
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>>337339936
>it has an assfaggots skill system

Battleborne has that. Overwatch is just TF2 with more abilities on cooldowns.
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>>337326546

Full on assfaggots mode with enemy towers and NPC soldiers in multiple lanes. They have the skill system for it, why not lift the gameplay but in FPS perspective too?
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>people arguing about rocket jumps with Pharah/solider
>76 can rocket jump as well and noone ever brings it up

Standard
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>>337339939
>it's the next LoL

You have no idea what made LoL successful.
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>>337332764
From your post, I'm pretty convinced you're overweight and that the 'girl' you're talking about is one of those hentai pillows, loser-san.
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>>337340141
>>337340164
I don't understand why people act deliberately obtuse. Just the (You)s?
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>>337338369
It was never the extra APM, it was more powerful units and movement tricks that weren't even that APM taxing. Vulture+Tank vs Dragoon+Zealot is still more interesting than vast majority of SC2 mixed unit matchups and it doesn't even include the rest of units that made it even better.

>>337339821
There's animation cancelling in OW that a lot of people don't really know about. You can up the tjorbörn turret to lvl 2 a lot faster, you can burst more with genji and so on.
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>>337330430
Just disable immunity abilities (e.g. wraith form, ice block) or have them force a flag drop. Blizzard already did this in WSG.
Crazy movement abilities are not an issue for a CTF mode because there are incredibly powerful defensive characters in the game; I'd like to see Tracer/Reaper/Lucio/Genji try to grab a flag that's defended by Bastion/Torb/Mei/Winston. The best solo capper of those would be Genji but he's fucked up by a Mei or Winston with half a brain.
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>>337340257
>this is /v/ in 2016
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>/v/ is going to desperately come up with reasons why it's shit, not fun and you're a drone for playing it and keep spouting the same nonsense while everyone enjoys the game come release

It's gonna be great!
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>>337340313
VSAF
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>>337340361

The game is okay, it's just a half-baked TF2 rip-off.

If you think that's worth 40 dollars that's okay. Most people here just got sick of it before the beta was over.
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>>337340361
Paying $40 bucks for a high-quality steak when you can get the same steak for free is poor judgment.
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>>337340232
But why would he need to? I never knew about this but I can only think he uses it for map traversal
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>>337340232
He can rocket jump once every 10 seconds or so, Pharah can jump thrice and then nothing.
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>>337340361
>overwatch friends will get kicked to /vg/
even better
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>>337340540
what is it with the fucking awful food analogies?
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>>337340540
>free steak

Can't imagine that would be good.
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I'd have a lot more fun with this game if it had gametype where hero selection was restricted similar to Dota 2, i.e you pick one hero for the entire duration of the round and you can only swap heroes with another player.
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>>337340361
Nah. Well actually yeah, you're right, but we're only going to do it until you faggots fuck off to /vg/

Your waifu/best girl threads are going to get deleted en masse, so enjoy your bans.
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>>337340247
Children and autists?
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>>337340639
It's probably gonna be a "brawl".
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>>337340540
You should stop doing food analogies.
>high-quality
Can't be Overwatch, it got boring really quickly.
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>>337340612
>>337340626
>attacking the imagery of my metaphor rather than it's actual validity
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>>337340570
Isn't that reason enough? attacking from unexpected angles is always strong.
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Not even, It's a blizzard game in pre-production so obviously it'll be popular, But as soon as it's actually released everyone will hate it and lose interest. Just like any other game, Ever.
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>>337340532
>it's just a half-baked TF2 rip-off.

I happen to think it's a fully baked rip-off, with abilities!

$40 isn't a fortune, it not being free doesn't diminish it's quality or appeal. It actually has nothing to do with it at all, really.
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>>337340532

>Most people here just got sick of it before the beta was over.

Most people here just can't wait to replay it since the beta is over.
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>>337340710
it's already been a brawl,
regardless competitive will be what it is, you'll find people palying that format.
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>>337340715
I don't attack things that don't exist.
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>>337329459
>>337329234
>>337329179


How to make Blizzard great again 101:

>Make WarCraft 4 that is a direct continuation of WarCraft 3, ignoring the entirety of WoW bullshit. Main factions are Alliance, Horde and Scourge. Alliance includes Night Elves, Humans + Dwarves/Gnomes/Whatever and Quel'Dorei remnants. Horde and Scourge as one would expect. Storyline something where Lich King gets up his ass, starts doing shit, Alliance tries to stop him, does so, turns out what he was doing was going to prevent Legion from invading again, Legion invades, this time they're bringing out the big guns and the Scourge, Horde and the Alliance have to fight side by side or have their entire world consumed. Game end with Legion being beaten and Lich King going "lol i trol u", taking over Azeroth and causing Horde and Alliance to flee over into the Outland.
>Diablo 4 that is a prequel to the original Diablo, going back to the horror-adventure style with emphasis on atmosphere and exploration. Fuck Diablo 2, fuck Diablo 3, fuck all the expansions, Diablo 1 was the best of the series because it had character and mood the rest of the series lack.
>A StarCraft FPS like StarCraft: Ghost was meant to be. Since they did the Ghost storyline with the shitty SC2 expansion, have the story follow multiple characters and borrow heavily from AvP. I'm thinking you get to play as Niadra or one of her agents, Tosh and some Dark Templar dude.

There, company saved, I'm a fucking genius, why aren't I working for Blizzard yet?
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>>337340639
That would make map design a lot harder because there will be points where it will just be impossible for a certain team composition
I'd rather they force a no duplicate rule because I think in a game with a diverse cast as OW having 2+ of the same hero on a team is dumb
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I think I'm gonna play the shit out of this tbqh. I didn't play the beta but I have a way of getting hooked on this shit; TF2, Dota 2... It'll have just the right amount of replayability and depth while not being too serious I think.
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You know what makes Overwatch better than MOBAs by default?

Actual lore.

In LoL and Hots the character are just together because of '''reasons''' with Hots having the complete copout that is the nexus.

In OW the characters are given actual story.
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>>337340141

you'd almost have a point in the sense that in TF2 you can pick melee and secondary weapons that aren't really weapons and act more like skills, but not quite.

Weapon switching is an established shooter mechanic. Skill systems with cooldowns are not, and are more kin to assfaggots and MMO's.

The very first thing that springs to mind as I first played OW was "this is like a cross between TF2 and LoL"
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>>337340532
I'm curious what would have made this game appeal to you or to at least consider it on part with TF2. Mind telling us?

Like imagine they had copy and pasted the characters rather than the gametypes. Would that have been any better? Do you want the same exact game? Why not just play TF2?
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>>337340820
You'd really rather pay $40 for an admittedly decent game when you could spend $0 to play
Dirty Bomb
Tribes: Ascend
Team Fortress 2
just off the top of my head?
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>>337337519
Wtf the paint mechanics in Portal 2 were way different to Splatoon. The paint concept in Splatoon was a 'revolutionary' in that it changed the core of what a multiplayer online shooter could be.
Portal had bouncy paint. And slippery paint. Woah.

Jus' sayin'
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>>337340840
>why aren't I working for Blizzard yet?

You need a bachelors and strong portfolio and experience in the game industry for years before they will even glance your way. For even the most menial of Blizz positions.
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>>337335708
You know it's 60 on consoles right?
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>>337340870
Dota 2 has a lot of lore to it as well
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>>337340873
it's funny, with the way mercy plays they do a really good job of weapon switching/managing that is way more stimulating then the cooldown management. I wish they'd implant that to other characters
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>>337340759

well.. when TF2 launched it was $50.

Now, that included HL2 Ep2 and Portal, so I guess you could consider TF2 as costing $20, HL2 Ep2 $20 (same as HL2 Ep 1 at launch), and portal at $10.
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>>337331573
git gud faggot

I was literally getting 27 eliminations with her without dying. Just bunny hop away nigga.
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>>337340997
Well for one, 0 of my friends play those games anymore, they are getting OW.

I enjoyed OW for what it was and those games weren't. Despite what you think Team Fortress 2 and OW do feel like different games, not the same exact thing except 1 is $40 and one isn't. But I'm sure you think otherwise.

Third I haven't bought a game since November, so a $40 purchase isn't going to drive me into the red, especially since I'm depositing almost $2000 into my account this friday

I can go on, but really is there a point? I like this game in particular and want to play it, so I'm going to spend money to get the product. Plus it's new fresh, there will be plenty of people on, and I'm curious to see how it grows. Or hell maybe it will be another Evolve.
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>>337340870
For multiplayer games you don't even need lore - you just need a strong cast with entertaining personalities
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>>337340997
>Team Fortress 2
These days you have to remind people TF2 wasn't F2P until four years after its release.
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>>337340997
But Anon I already have
3k hours in TF2
1k hours in Tribes
500 hours in Dirty Bomb
I need a new game until the next big TF2 update releases
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>>337340997
Tribes: Ascend's time has more then passed by now.

Dirty bomb defenitly favors tho0se who spend money over those who don't while oyu start playing.

TF2 has already been played to death by anyone who even slightly liked it by this point.

However I guess it would be different if i was newer to playing games in general,
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>>337340842
Even that would work for me, shit like lmao2Mei is just boring to play against or 2 Widowmakers is basically asking to lose.
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>>337341157

Her guns feel like they do next to nothing even at point blank (which is dangerous because you have the largest crit zone in the game), and her shield is so short acting she's ineffective as a tank.
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>>337340972
I'm kind of curious about this too. I want to know what is half assed about the game.
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>>337340997
>P2W
>Dead
>Dead
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>>337340997
>Dirty Bomb
>Tribes: Ascend

Yeah I should play these nice free dead games!
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As someone who played it the game feels really addictive. I think it's because the short respawn times combined with big flashy plays give it that "just one more time" feel since you always feel like you can pull something off.
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>>337340997
Look.
TF2 is still alive. I have tons of hats, I'm not gonna stop playing with them.
But how does that prevents me from playing overwatch too?
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>>337341157
You can do well with her, but she still sucks.
People like you are the worst though, she won't get a buff or looked at at all because your faggots keep screaming like she's perfectly fine.
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>>337341323
you gotta pick easier targets, pretend you are winston with the tickle taser and just pick on the weaklings, while using your e and shift to approach and retreat
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>>337341276
You seemed to have refuted me quite expertly and also seem to be someone legitemitly intrested in the game. Best wishes.
>>337341286
I'm not talking about when the game's were released, I'm talking about now.
>>337341294
I recommend you keep at DB for a while, I'm still having fun with it at about the same hours.
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>>337341323
What is your problem? She is literally my strongest character to the point it's not even fun to play her most of the time. Just because your bad with one character doesn't mean the game needs a rewrite. I know I'm not the only person who can play her well.

Get in, flank, shoot, pop shields, shoot some more, bunny hop out, repeat.

>her shield is so short acting she's ineffective as a tank
She's not meant to be played as a frontline tank. Try playing her when you have another tank on your squad and flank your enemies until it clicks. Health pickups are also a must.

>>337341580
haha

git gud u fag
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>>337334746
Complex means tedious now?
>I'm one of those people that likes to win by pressing the iwin button
Brain-dead goose
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>>337325675
I'm genuinely amazed that it got so popular.
Now hear me out here, right, so I was hyped as shit for OW myself, and I had been pissed for so long that I never got a beta invite or a chance to try it.
So the open beta comes out and I jump right in and play nonstop for the few days it's out. Turns out that 20tick alone makes the game completely unplayable and straight up infuriating for me to play.
And I can not understand how other people can find fun in it despite 20tick and press Q to win match-gameplay. 20tick is worse than 30fps lock.

I was looking into buying the CE, but now I don't know if I want to try it ever again. I'll probably buy it on sale in the future if it still seems alright then.
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>>337341694
> she works fine for me!

Lel
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>>337341694
That's nice, dear. She's still much worse than Winston despite performing the same function.
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>>337341427
>>337341482
Tribes literally just got an update only a few months ago now, and I don't mind an ingame currency/real currency store
>>337341542
I'm not going to stop you, I guess I just overreacted because I'm fucking tired of all these shills.
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>>337341427
>33k players
>14:30 on a Thirsday
>Dead
Okay buddy
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>>337340870
I used to love League of Legends lore before they scrapped it and the game gradually became more and more of a mess to play.
I still watch competitive matches on occasion.
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>>337341823
>>337341825
Maybe if you cry about it enough you can finally get kills with her and be good like me.
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>>337341694

Just because D.Va is your waifu doesn't make her good.

She has shitty damage output compared to other flankers and melts in a second against a competent player. Her point-defense ability is also extremely situational and her ultimate's only function is to clear a point for a couple of seconds, because only a retard gets killed by it.

I like her and I've played her a lot, but she's definitely one of the weakest characters in the game.
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>>337341694

no I've done well with her before, flanking.. but it seems like the only people I can really solo readily even surprising them is snipers, or a D.Va who's already out of her suit.

If a Tracer is particularly bad and doesn't know how to maneuver I guess.. but really D.Va feels like a one trick pony. Get to full ultimate, Shift and Q at a control point or the payload, run away, get 4 kills, Q again to start building ultimate back.
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>>337341895
Then why was she not played alongside Winston in comp teams?
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>>337341967
Because they both fill similar roles.
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>>337341895
That's not the goal, the goal is to get her a few buffs.
You act like no one has any reasoning behind saying she is underpowered.

Just because you personally do well with her doesn't mean she is fine. And this isn't just 1 or 2 people saying she has issues.

Keep 'git gud' spouting though, you seem mature as fuck man.
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>>337341914
I think diva + 1 ganker is very strong with teamwork.

Not that two tracers communicating wouldn't accomplish the same thing but with diva running around disrupted a player they'd be more then easy picking for others who move to her.
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>>337341895
That is a very nice picture.
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>>337342048
And one is better than the other, leaving the worse one unplayed (D.Va). That was exactly my point.
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>>337341895

Post stats faggot.

>inb4 <lvl10 shitter that ran over some keyboardturners a few times thinking he's hot shit

Literally noone plays D.Va at high level even as a situational pick. Hell even Zenyatta is more useful in the right hands and he's rock bottom due to his HP. Everything this character does, someone does better.
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>>337341608
>I recommend you keep at DB
hitscan is not my thing :(
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>>337341958
That's all she is meant for though. Flanking.

She is a one trick pony, as are most of the characters.

>>337342052
haha

git gud u fag

>>337342127
Her mobility shits on Winstons though. That alone allows her to be better in some maps and situations.

She flanks and does more DPS to a single target than Winston too. Also her shields have no HP as they are only on a countdown.
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>>337342328
>She is a one trick pony, as are most of the characters.
Including Diva. All she's good for is tanking enemy ults with defense matrix.
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>>337342535
>Including Diva.
Yes. D.Va is in fact a character in a FPS about one trick ponies

>All she's good for is tanking enemy ults with defense matrix.
Sure.

She is terrible. Please don't play her then, makes me look better anyways.
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dva says she plays to win, but in reality no one playing to win picks dva, well done blizzard.
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>>337342750
>She is terrible

We are aware. Glad to see you realize that.
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>all these neckbeards who think every character they are bad with needs a buff
Nyet, hero is fine.

>>337342875
So stop playing her then and play a character you enjoy instead ya goof.
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>>337343063
>every character

Just terrible ones, like D.va.
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>>337343184
Haha how is dying with D.Va even a thing. Just bunny hop away nigga hahaaha just press shift
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>>337343063
Maybe if you post more pictures of your waifu it will make your fantasy true.
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>>337343063
D.va is not strong atm but it's close.
Also, the balance of the game depends heavily on the maps. If this game is about diversity, there isn't anything wrong with D.va being shit at payload buy good on Lijiang tower.
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>>337327879
:^)
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>>337343227
It's too late Tyler, you can't save her now.
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>>337343063

There are better flankers who can get more kills without using their ult. Tracer, Reaper, Winston.

Like, as a Tracer or Reaper, I can flank turret bastions and kill them before they turn around and mow me down.

As a D.Va? No. I don't do enough damage, Bastion turns around and crits me in the face.
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>>337341895
D. Va is a stuck-up cunt.
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>>337343278
Damn I think your on to something there anon.

>>337343291
I agree, anons get butthurt they may do poorly with a particular hero for one match, but they fail to realize the whole game is about switching your teams comp to match the other.

>>337343320
If you buff her I will just become stronger :^)

>>337343351
Pick your battles and don't take on bastion then. If he's that much of a problem for you team play genji.
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>>337343673

bastion is almost always a problem in PuG games.
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>>337332229
Best post ITT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlS-VtssopY

fucking reaper
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>>337343673

>play genji

and see, that comes back to the focal point of the problem. There are characters who fulfill the same role much better, and make D.Va into a one trick pony of using her ult.

Do other heroes have really strong ults? Sure, but a Hanzo is still useful before his ult is up, sniping people and getting his sonic arrow out to reveal enemies around corners. That's handy.

A Pharah is still going to get a lot of kills just with normal rockets and mobility.

D.Va without her ult is impotent vs virtually every hero in the game. Surprised snipers, that's about all she's really good at taking out on her own.
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