So we went from this...
,,, to this.
Is this the future of video games?
>>337306179
It's the future of Capcom IPs.
Will we ever see something like pic related again?
>>337306105
what do you expect OP? Kids today would not buy a 2D game unless it was some cheap indie/mobile shit. They think being 2D means shit/cheap graphics/game.
When it's actually harder to make great looking HD sprites than it is your generic 3D action game.
>>337307756
Things should not be so sad.
>>337306105
Bof4, that game was so great I probably went through it over 5 times. Its too bad the US version got censored, I looked up and found at least 3 of the scenes on Youtube though.
>>337306446
Mario RPG is overrated as fuck, Paper Mario and TTYD are way better.
>>337306179
JESUS CHRIST DON'T REMIND ME
At least spoiler that shit next time
>>337308473
Yes, overall they are.
But there's a thing about the scenarios in Mario RPG. Even tho they were limited and... cubic... they were cool for me at that time.
Wish I could see something like that in this gen
>>337306179
I'll never not be pissed.
It actually hurts more than what happened to Castlevania.
and what makes the pain even worse is that Valkyrie Profile is going the same route.
Why must everything I love turn to ash?
>>337308072
Still no fan translation? I guess Front Mission fans are the only ones with the know how to do that.
>>337308745
because corporations and money
>>337308745
the director said something about the PS4 and Valkyrie Profile though
i mean its probably not going to happen (because valkyrie profile is not going to get the bullshit sales SE expects it to) but it's slightly better off than castlevania
>>337308473
everyone knows Superstar Saga is the best
>>337308745REDASH
>>337309008
I think we can all agree that Paper Mario is the best console RPG and Superstar Saga is the best portable RPG.
>>337306105
Please OP, it hurts to much. Anything else but this
>>337306179
>a breath of fire 6
>it's even worse than 5
i didn't think it could be done i am so fucking mad
>no one likes turn based combat anon
>Atlus is the only company left with any sense
>everything is kingdom hearts now
ITS NOT FAIR BRAVELY DEFAULT WAS TURN BASED AND EVERYONE LOVED IT
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
>>337307865
>they were cool for me at that time.
and everytime you see something like this this year, you deride it as pixelshit so fuck you
>>337309038
>Ken
I know it got shit on by long term fans but Dragon Quarter is a great game once you get over it's weirdness
>>337309256
Well, it doesn't look like Bravely Default is going anywhere anytime soon and I am Setsuna looks pretty promising, and there might be more to come with Square's new studio made specifically for classic-styled JRPGs.
>>337309260
99 percent of indie games that uses 2D pixel art don't even put any fucking work in it. The graphics in most of them aren't even NES tier and no where near as good as developers like Natsume could get out of the system.
>>337309345
when they chose to make it/call it a BoF game they knew it would be measured up to the past 4, on it's own merits it's alright but breath of fire it most certainly is not
pic related to capcom and sega in equal measure
>>337309256
>mfw ff7 remake was announced and everyone on /v/ was shitting on turn based combat and praising the single-button mashing
ITS LIKE IM SURROUNDED BY 15YO, SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING
>>337309483
and the one that did put effort still get lumped together as shit so fuck you again.
>>337309345
It's a decent experimental game taken by itself.
It should have been put into the mainline Breath of Fire line. It also didn't help it's cause that it was the last BoF game until this travesty, so people have even more of a reason to hate it as a scapegoat for the series' death.
>>337306105
I started to play a game in 99 called Dark Ages, made by Nexon. This is how the UI originally looked (stone client). Made the game feel like the title described it.
>>337309651
>Nexon
there's your problem
>>337309641
Meant it shouldn't have been made a main BoF game.
>>337309620
Which game that you are a developer on that you are even shilling, I mean talking about?
>>337309651
This is how the UI looked a few years afterwards.
Notice that they also literally increased the game gamma (that isn't a setting in the game options).
Not so Dark Ages anymore...
Anyways the point is that it seems like video game companies are destined to do shit like this because it feels like an improvement to them, even if it completely ruins the feeling of it
>>337309223
>Dragon Quarter
>Bad
>>337309256
>>337309557
We're a part of a new generation grandpa!
We like games that are fun! Boring archaic menu slogs are the complete opposite of fun
Deal with it :^)
>>337309490
I get it and when i first played it I hated it to but I went back to it and it's really good
It's one of the old "It's a good game, just not a good XYZ game"
>>337309641
Yeah I guess, wish more people gave it a chance though. It emulates well for the record if anyone want's to try it out for free.
I would of never went back and played it but I broke my ankle in 03. Had so much down time I went back to play it since I beat everything else. Really glad I did
>>337309038
3 had the coolest Dragon form system, 5 had by far the most broken dragon form in the series in terms of gameplay power.
>>337310001
>would of
Meant would have, breaking shitty grammar habits is hard
>>337308473
I never played the first Paper Mario, but TTYD was tedious garbage. Every chapter constantly forces you back and forth over and over. The fucking island chapter made you walk across four screens of enemies and back a good five or six times to trigger events at each end before you could move on, and then the train chapter did more of the same shit, after the woods chapter also did the same shit. It was an absolute chore in regards to the story progression which was a shame because the actual gameplay was interesting.
>>337306105
Dropped it when I got to this part.
>>337310367
and not a single bit of that screen even resembles BoF.
>>337306179
If anything I feel like some companies are realizing that betting so much on mobile is a bad idea and turning back towards their old audience. Squeenix seems to be, at least.
And yeah, one of these days companies will learn that reviving an IP you haven't done anything with in years via a garbage microtransaction-filled mobile game is a terrible idea- you gain very little revenue from slapping the brand onto it but piss off a lot of your older/more loyal customers. People should have gotten the hint when Dungeon Keeper Mobile did poorly enough to warrant shutting down the studio that made it.
>>337309641
Pretty much- it's a good game but a bad sequel. Chrono Cross is another example of this sort of thing.
>>337310367
Why does Ryu have tits?
>>337310453
>anon posts a screen shot of a game in the Breath of Fire series
>and not a single bit of that screen even resembles BoF
Is this what autism is like?
>>337306179
>,,,
I swear to God that Europeans are fucking brain damaged.
>>337310453
That npc is from dragon quarter but that's about it.
>>337310646
You create your own character at the beginning. Ryu appears at the start.
>>337309256
It's funny because the best-selling RPG series of all time has been turn-based the whole way through- Pokemon.
But yeah, until some other mid-to-high budget turn/menu-based RPG becomes a breakout hit like FF7 was (Persona 5 has a decent shot at this) I don't see a AAA console RPG using that sort of combat system again.
>>337310939
But can you make a female Woren?
>>337310939
I hate this because that's actually a pretty good looking Ryu but it's wasted on mobile crap.
>>337310939
Ah okay thanks for the explanation man that was confusing the hell out of me.
>>337308745
you know whats worse?
CV didn't even have a terrible 2D game to kill it...
>>337309256
How did Bravely Second sell?
>>337311517
What gets me about CV is that while I personally didn't care for the reboot, Lords of Shadow DID do good and it looked like it could still have the franchise stay afloat for awhile.
Then they blow it with the two follow-up games.. they blew it so fucking hard.
Dead series belonging to a dead inside company.
>>337311764
I heard that the circumstances of that were totally ridiculous, like the director got a big head and pretty much fired a bunch of people halfway through and fucked it all up.
>>337311764
CV64 whould have killed it if it wasn't for SotN
>>337311698
Not great.
It was a half-assed sequel.
The pattern of "consumers buy flawed product en masse because they want to vote with their wallets; publisher takes this for granted and release a substandard product, assuming people will lap it up anyway; consumers don't buy into it; publisher gets upset about 'mixed signals'" is getting to be altogether too-common in video games.
Square Enix is perhaps the most guilty of this though. Fucking Heavensward.
>>337308880
If VP's new mobage is successful we might, MIGHT, have a chance at a new game.
I'll be honest though if they localize the new VP game I'm going to play the shit out of it.
>>337312372
It's mostly empty promises. I don't trust those game companies anymore when they say something along the lines of "WE'LL SOMEDAY PERHAPS CONSIDER MAYBE THINKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY LOOKING INTO A POSSIBLE NEW GAME IF THIS HALF-ASSED PORT/MOBAGE/WHATEVER SELLS MORE THAN DOUBLE THE POPULATION OF CHINA" as they always have an out. "oh, it didn't meet our ridiculous expectations!" or "oh, you misread what we said, we didn't really imply that we were going to make a new game at all. :^)".
or the most slimiest, implying the fanbase just wasn't there and wasn't interested despite all evidence to the contrary.
>>337312849
How do we fix that?
>>337310357
>tedious garbage
Stopped reading. Awful, bad, terrible taste, and I hope you die , I really do.
>>337306105
What game is this
>>337313816
Nice argument.
>>337313773
You can't.
Not unless you get hired into a position within the company and you possess agency to personally change those practises.
>>337313931
None, there was going to be none. Your taste is awful, and I won't even acknowledge you because it is so fucking bad. Kill yourself.
>>337313816
He's actually right about the back-and-forth being ridiculous.
I just replayed chapter 4 today.
You go through the woods to get to creepy steeple. Then you have to walk back through the woods when that douche steals your body. Then you have to go back through the woods (to creepy steeple) to find the letter and listen for his name. Then you have to go back through the woods to get back to him.
Then guess what?
He runs through the woods and back to creepy steeple...so you have to go back through the woods again.
For fucks sake. At least you don't have to then run back through the woods to get back to town in the very end; I had nearly lost my shit.
They really should have added more maps/rooms and required less back-and-forth shit.
Something neat did happen on my FIRST run back (when I had no companion) tho - the curse effect triggered for star points when I killed one of those golden daisys, so I got 100 sp instead of just 50.
>>337313893
>picture title says BoF IV.
>thread is littered with the phrase "Breath of Fire" numerous times.
Gee, I dunno.
>>337309038
Why was BoF 3 so based?
>>337314510
>Kept the spirit of the SNES games
>nice sprite work with obvious care put into everything
>storyline kept the same light hearted look and characters coupled with dark themes of the first two games
>bittersweet ending
>awesome dragon fusion system that was leagues better than the SNES games' dragon systems
>Nina's tight dress
Only thing it needed was another Katt and Deis actually playable.
>>337314878
Oh, and forgot the wonderful soundtrack as well.
It could have also stand to be a little longer, but I can't really think of much they could do without it turning into filler, helping that wimp learn how to fight was tedious enough
>>337315497
You thought it was short? My first playthrough was about 75 hours. I usually rush through games but for some reason this one took me a lot longer. Love it though. Second playthrough I think was like 50 hours.
>>337315791
To be fair I haven't played it for over 10 years, but I remember it ending too soon for my tastes.
Which is more a compliment than anything else.
>>337309256
too slow for the average modern gamer, same reason SRPGs are dead
unfortunately, it seems that the only way to keep them alive is to put some dating sim aspect into the game
>>337314046
Dude, not to play devil's advocate but the game's backtracking is shitty as fuck, the dialogue in the game makes up for it, but seriously the first time you do the pirate chapter is terrible, go to flavio, get a coconut, go back to bobbery, go back to flavio, get the skull, go back to cave.
Fight Doopliss, run from doopliss, get the boom, go back to doopliss's castle, get the P, go back to doopliss.
Get on train, Deal with literally every fucking lost item on the train.
I like the game, but seriously paper mario 1 is way better, and Super Mario RPG has more heart than TTYD for sure.
If you just like to sit back in a nice chair, get comfortable and play a slow-paced game with an adventure story and don't care about action, excitement and competition, you can still find games like that being released on both handhelds. All hope is not lost. It's just a shame that on home consoles they're dead and on PC they barely exist.
>>337310538
>Dungeon Keeper Mobile did poorly enough to warrant shutting down the studio that made it.
I hadn't heard about that. That's hilarious, considering DQ is incredibly popular in Japan and so are shitty mobage.
