Here is a diffirent kind of Overwatch discussion.
How will the business model continue?
Will we see expans, DLC, ingame cosmetic store?
So far ALL battle.net can be tried for free, it is a philosophy blizzard had since warcraft2. How do you think will blizz implement a free trial for overwatch?
Knowing blizzard we are looking at a game that will last half a decade, so how will they keep it alive?
is /v/ too busy bitching about bastion and claiming waifus?
>>337291748
I wouldn't believe that the beta is the lifetime trial for the game. My bet is that blizz is going to go starcraft style on this and allow free players to play brawl only, or have a weekly hero rotation without access to competetive mode.
It's basically guaranteed that there will be a cash shop for cosmetics, if only for buying the ingame currency that you can use to buy stuff outright
The real question is how will they handle introduction of new actual content. Maps and modes will certainly be free as any modern FPS realizes that you can't split the community, but how will they approach introducing new characters?
I wonder what's worse, this game attempt at a plot or RWBY's attempt at a plot. Leave the anime shit to the nips, Americans. You clearly can't get into it properly. That shit between Tracer and Widowmaker is retarded.
Pretty sure Blizzard had said they will have cosmetic micro transactions but they definitely said that heroes, maps, ad game modes will be free
Why is the game called Overwatch if the group doesn't even exist anymore?
>>337292753
It is supposed to be a wrestling style plot where all characters are one dimensional and have one dimensional relationships to eachother, the fun is just seeing your favorite character say his iconic one-liner while performing his iconic move.
Blizz has signed a team for three more years of maintenance and development, so I have a feeling that the game will have SOME sort of community for at least that long.
At a panel, they also mentioned a quarterly update of content including new heroes, an occasional new map, and new skins.
I'd say getting a couple new characters every 3 or so months, sounds about right.
>>337293056
woops this was actually meant for
>>337292601
>>337293025
Because it is a cartoony Watchmen ripoff
>>337293025
why are they all fighting each other? whats the story?
>>337293314
>yes hello I have no idea what I'm talking about
I have a better question. Where's Junkrat in that pic?
>>337293473
taking the picture obviously duh
>>337293604
It would explain why the swedecuck is so mad if it's Lucio taking the pic but still, where's Junkrat and COD76?
>>337293459
Robot Skynet level war happened. Overwatch the group was born out of all our playable characters. More shit happened, world started recovering a little and the group was disbanded because normal people hate and fear them,now everyone that was once in Overwatch has become a merc, while some remain good, others were driven off the deep end and either started out evil, became evil or are in the process of becoming evil. It's Watchman/Terminator/X-Men and it's fucking boring and RWBY is heading in that exact same direction due to the team starting out happy then bad shit happened and each one of them is heading towards mindbreak.
Do westerners really think this is what makes good storytelling? Starting out happy then dropping edge on people? No wonder you pus buckets like Urobutchi so much. Fate/Zero and Magical Madioka were just like this shit.
If they do anything it will be paying for coins for cosmetic bullshit. They already committed to characters and maps being free. That also kinda locks DLC out unless any expansion they sell adds fairly substantial new modes.
It wouldn't be too surprising if they did nothing though and the game sales were just it. All the old games are maintained and even still get patches, D2 got one not that long ago. No recurring business model there. SC2 never had anything, in fact I think MP is practically free now it is SP shit you pay for. D3 did have cash AH but they dumped that, RoS has had nothing and they have supported that way better than they even supported D3 back when it had cash AH.
>>337291280
>How will the business model continue?
F2P with Microtransactions. The loot boxes made it pretty clear.
>>337291280
It's possible we'll see content patches with single player campaigns and story missions as paid DLC, but I doubt blizz will charge for heroes or maps.
>>337291280
I like how everyone is losing their shit over this game and its just Team Fortress with more classes.
>>337294190
They could sell a campaign at some point that comes with exclusive skins or something
>>337294365
You mean Team Fortress with more waifus. The same shit happened with Fire Emblem it seems even in the west waifufaggory is more popular then wiping the cheeto dust from your fingers and getting a real girl.
>>337294365
there are A LOT of people with hundrets if not thousands of hours in tf2 that need a breath of fresh air.
>>337294020
>>337294765
Make me. That's right you can't because you're too busy fapping to pixels on a screen.
>Tfw me and one of my housemates are wondering how much loot boxes will cost and how many we will buy as soon as they are available.
>>337294889
why dont you just play the game and unlock skins naturally, it wont be long until you are content with having the heroes you play look dank
>>337293129
That's way too often. A couple characters a year is more like it.
>>337294679
Yeah but its not fresh air its recycled air
Blizzard honestly doesn't know.
When asked about this at one point the devs looked at eachother and went "Uhh, shit"
They're honestly trying to just make a good game, since they screwed the pooch with titan, they've killed their other franchises to the point where even their biggest fans are scratching their heads and such.
Overwatch might just launch buy 2 play, the only problem I see with the game is it lacks your traditional blizzard campaign/storymode and blizzard isn't very well known for their competitive games..
>>337295317
the fact remains though that team fortress2 is a consistent top5 steam charts game. also the players seem to exist is a vacuum, look at a hundret profiles with tf2 as a top played game and you'll find that they rarely peek into other fps games. This means marketwise, that there is some sort of unique appeal to tf2, all that blizz is doing is tapping into that market.
>>337295493
>blizzard isn't very well known for their competitive games
do kids these days not know what Starcraft is
same way dota, tf2, and hots stays profitable
hats, hats, hats
>>337296017
TF2 is also free to play, so an absolute ton of those profiles are people in South America or Eastern Europe who can't play anything else.
>>337296047
Starcraft wasn't very competitive at launch, it wasn't until koreans got ahold of it and played balanced custom maps did it take off in korea.
SC2 is shit though, even koreans went back to starcraft 1
Diablo 2 laddering is fun, but was taken over by bots
Diablo 3 laddering is unfun
WC3 is fun, but also imba as all fuck requiring modded maps
Hearthstone is pay 2 win out of its mind
WoW PVP was never balanced and never will be
All in all, Blizzard games are known to be competitive when the community takes over, when blizzard themselves force competition the game becomes really boring really fast.
Good thing about overwatch it is the TF2 model, and as we all know
>competitive TF2
WHRE ARE TEH BRACK PEOP THERE ARE NO BRACK PEOPE
>>337296516
uh Brood War's main comp maps were never customs what the fuck are you talking about
Campaigns/horde mode can be sold separately.
>>337292279
>No splitting community
>What is CoD
>What is Battlefield
>What is Start Wars Battlefront
>>337295493
> blizzard isn't very well known for their competitive games
meanwhile in reality:
> they made a fucking mobile game into an esport, even supporting third-party tourneys
> god knows how but since bc there is actually a competetive WoW scene that is infact still alive
> carrying hots into tourneys even if it kills them
> they made starcraft into a god damn national sport
Blizzard is THE company known to take wiping your ass and turning it into soccer. Out of all companies out either blizz or valve are the most competetive minded.
> inb4 some idiotic comments on how competetive isn't competetive because rng/p2w/etc that misses the point entirely
>>337296683
lucio?
reaper?[origin skin shows his skin color]
>>337297213
Made by companies that don't care if all the players fuck off a week after release as long as they bought the game. Blizzard plays the long game.
Do what valve does: Have the community do the work for them. It would be dumb not to allow the community to make custom maps and game modes. Pretty much every really great TF2 map was made by the community (Process, Gullywash, Snakewater, Steel) and some were improved by the community but even implemented (viaduct_pro and turbine_pro fucking when already).
Also, purchase coins in game for those that don't want to grind for skins.
Loot boxes will certainly be for sale and I could imagine that bringing in plenty of cash if they keep pumping out skins for the heroes. Kaplan basically said that if people wanted to blow their money on loot boxes for chances at skins/currency they'd be more than happy to let them.
>>337297502
so how are you suppose to get lootboxes after you hit max rank?
>>337297397
I can promise you that Blizzard wants to cut off SC2 and D3 support if they could without hurting their brand name.
>>337297908
Overwatch has prestiges.
Heroes and Maps are free
Skins and currency will be on a Shop.
>>337298037
neat how many?
>>337298037
Really? Source?
Otherwise I would think that you simply fill up an exp bar for solely lootdrops after you hit max rank.
>>337298136
There's essentially 1890 levels.
http://www.overpwn.com/news/152-tracers-over-the-shoulder-pose-removal-drama-all
>>337298329
Jesus fuck
I have no problem with an optional way to purchase cosmetics with real cash, as long as you are still able to get those items without real money through rng loot boxes and saving in game currency.
>>337298539
Consider the following:
a CoD game has around 15 prestiges, meant to be reached only after a couple thousand hours. A few still manage to do it.
Overwatch may have this many levels, but it also comes with a lifetime of five to ten years unlike a CoD wich basically expires after a year.
>>337298307
http://www.overpwn.com/news/152-tracers-over-the-shoulder-pose-removal-drama-all
>>337298897
thansk
>>337291280
They already stated they will ad new maps and characters for free.
I don't see how this works as a business model unless they also add some sort of cosmetics cash shop.
>>337292601
Its even worse because theyre on tje same team and its like nothing happened
>>337298329
>>337298897
So does getting from lv "101" to lv "102" take the same amount of time as lv 1-2? Or does it KEEP scaling upwards the xp requirements? I can imagine if that was the case that 1889-1890 would take months if not to get, so Im assuming 101-102 and 1-2 are the same xp.
>>337299065
No,they didnt.
They said they were planning to release them for free.
Plans change.
And their modus operandi is to jew you hard, likw they do in all their games
>>337299365
It takes longer to level up each time you level up until you hit level 23. Then it's the same amount of xp for every level after that.
Here's my prediction.
Will cost $40 at launch, like they said all future Heroes will be free.
Later on, depending on how the population of the game is doing, they'll just make the PC version F2P similar to what they did with TF2, give early adopters exclusives skins and what-not, then charge money for microtransactions.
>>337293025
Because they were called back to action
It was in one of the trailers
WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY WAIFUS? WHAT KIND OF FUCKING THREAD IS THIS?! I SWEAR TO GOD YOU MUST DELETE THIS NOW!
>>337299065
Why would they even need a business model if they're selling it as a full priced game
I know it's hard to believe these days but not every game needs DLC
>They won't sell skins goi
>they're planning to sell loot crates
>we won't sell new heroes
>they're going to be introducing expansion packs
>It's never going to go f2p
>well you played it long enough and got your moneys worth, it should be f2p now
>>337300061
Let me correct myself, "paid" DLC
If they do bring out paid heroes and skimpy costumes I will literally give them all my money.
Art style is so nice and their designs are so well done that I can't help it.
>>337300103
>they're going to be introducing expansion packs
Source?
>>337297315
He's Hispanic.
POST WAIFUS YOU FUCKING PATHETIC KEKS! YOU DON'T ACTUALLY PLAY A BLIZZARD GAME FOR THE GAMEPLAY RIGHT? FUCK
>>337297315
Reaper is el Mexicano.
The $60 Origins edition sets a bad precedent. The exclusive skins can't be gotten in game without paying the extra $20. I don't want future skins to only be behind a paywall.
>>337300260
his ass,
the model was already say it in a conference this is a stupid tread
>>337291280
Blizzard is catching all customers at all price points: free (to increase playerbase & keep the game alive), free + small purchases, standard purchase, premium collector's editions etc.
it just makes sense
>>337296047
You mean the game that got a sequel which single-handedly caused League of Legends to get 40% of all players in korea
>>337300402
phones wallpaper
>>337300583
is not going to be free damm how austic is people,
>>337291280
$40 per person + microtransaction = already got their return
>>337300672
Just let them shitpost about it
I'll be glad they'll never be able to play
>>337300578
because blizzard have never ever lied
ever
at all
>>337300618
I ALREADY HAVE THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH JESUS CHRIST. POST MORE.
I don't know OP, but I really wish they would made the game F2P even though I know they won't. I don't have this kind of cash on me right now.
>yfw lootboxes will be able to be bought with real money
>yfw $20 dollar lootboxes with 1% extra chance to have a real money lootbox only exclusive skin
>>337300946
It's F2P at heart you just have to pay first.
>>337292601
NOOOOOO
>>337300776
yea they have hots and heartstone free and they forget is BLIZZZARD giving something free (NOT EVEN DEAD)
>>337301016
This is what I see happening eventually.
>>337291280
Maps and Heroes will be Free, cosmetics will cost money.
I could see them doing an "Expansion" thing.
Like, we know this Sombra bitch is gonna be a character sooner or later. So I could them doing a "Dia de la Sombra" expansion where you pay like $10 and get early access to Sombra, some new maps, and some exclusive goodies, and then after like a week or so, everyone gets Sombra and the maps.
I could also see them doing something like DotA's Arcana items, where like they sell a really cool limited time skin for a new hero as soon as they release them.
>>337300946
>but I really wish they would made the game F2P even though I know they won't.
Fuck off
All I want to do is buy the fucking game and not dick with """micro""" transactions. I also don't want Russians, kids, and Brazilians to infest the game because they don't have a penny to their name.
>>337301393
>get early access to Sombra,
>She gets nerfed immediantly after
fucking no
Please
>>337300946
If the open beta told me anything it's that f2p is fucking cancer.
>>337301668
Sounds like Warframe
What do you predict the Blizzard numbers will be for Q3?
>>337300573
I like Blackwatch Reaper costume better desu
>>337300573
wish the origin skins had different voice lines.I mean it's not like the originals are anything special
>>337300573
if skins is the only thing i need to pay for then its fine by me
skins is for kiddies who like to show off
you dont even fucking see yourself besides your arms and in some ultimates
its still shitthat people pay extra money for them
Why is it $40 on PC and $60 on consoles?
>>337298329
why is lvl 100-190 "counted as zero" and has no star? I feel like the stars should begin to show from there since you don't have a star at 0-90 which is already zero
>>337301841
They will buy Cuba and turn it into Blizzardworld most likely
>>337302249
console peasents
>>337302249
Why do you think?
>>337302249
Only Origins edition is being sold for console right now.
>that feel when didn't realise all beta-ing was done and pre-ordered it thinking I could play it now
I'm a fucking mark
>>337302249
Because they're forced to buy the Origins edition where you don't have to on PC
>>337302437
To swindle consolecucks for buying multiplayer shooters that are more popular on PC?
>>337294615
I'm bored as fuck of TF2, love Overwatch and REALLY dislike waifus in games. Where is your god now?
>>337302526
What's the difference between origins and normal?
every "season" new drops and maps. Premium skins and shit are going to be what pays for the constant deving of the game. So skins that cost on upwards of 15 dollars.
>>337302526
Consoles don't even have a digital download purchase option?
>>337302769
Only for the Origins edition still
>>337302526
5 skins
Mercy Wings for D3
Tracer for HotS
Baby Winston pet for WoW
Card back for Hearthstone
>>337301016
>$20 dollar lootboxes with 1% extra chance to have a real money lootbox only exclusive skin
fuck that shit. the skins would literally have to be the character naked before I even think of paying money for that
>>337300061
The only business value of providing free updates it to keep people playing the game. If the game has no subscription and no cash shop that generates constant revenue (if there are people playing) then there is no point in providing free updates.
They marketed this thing waaaay too much for them to just say "Here's the game! We'll do a few patches every now and then but everything else is free! :D:D"
No, they'll have some cosmetic items that you can purchase, not unlike the Hutt Cartel thing in SWTOR or what they've already done with paying $30 for a cool flying mount in WoW. It's cheap and gimmicky but people will still pay for it.
At some point they'll release a co-op mode vs AI. Probably like a horde mode. Fits in with their """"""plot"""""" a lot better than what they've got currently, and they'll finagle it so that it works with all the different classes to varying degrees.
So probably within the year you'll see stuff like cosmetics you can purchase; not even full skins, but like--belts, boots, helmets, guns, effects, etc. Some you'll have the option of grinding for or paying for, others will be paying for only. A lot of tie-ins with other Blizzard games as well, so whenever a new expansion or big patch comes out for say, WoW or Diablo, you'll see a bunch of cosmetic items to shill for their other IPs.
Standard Blizzard stuff, and I'm not implying that's a bad thing. The beta was fun, but after feeling like a dummy for buying Fallout 4 before any mods were out, better to wait for this game to get some more content before paying for it.
>>337303602
Co-op vs AI was already in but it's just your standard multiplayer vs bots
>>337303602
There will almost certainly be PvE "raids" added at some point since Titan was supposed to be an MMO and it's the hot thing right now.
>>337303793
God the bot AI is stupid.
Heres the gist of it
>wait for the team to spawn
>walk in a death ball to the point
>immediantly aim at people but only shoot in small intervals to not be stupid to fight
>immediantly activate any defensive abilities if sneezed at
That's it.
>>337302895
>Only for the Origins edition still
That is so fucking dumb
>>337303793
I actually really like the vs. bots mode as a means of just fooling around with some characters, but the bots are literal retards who just +forward at everything. Hopefully they'll make them a little less braindead if anyone can play Bastion and keep them locked four feet in front of spawn right now.
>>337294020
Are you serious?
I can point out lots of terrible stories in anime as well as dramas from the East.
>>337291748
Why was it deleted?
>>337292279
They have said that all new maps and heros will be free.
>>337304004
See like that's more in line with what I'm thinking. If I were to base my impression of the game solely off of looking at what passes for the characters "story" on the Overwatch website, I'd be really confused by them having these people who are terrorists, assassins, scientists, vigilantes, war-droids, Buddhist droids, corporate shills, and environmentalists do shit like--team up with their mortal enemies to escort a limosine through an old Hollywood movie set. And then that's it. Fuckin A, even the TF2 story made more sense in the context of who they were and what they were doing, and that was penned in as a running joke (albeit a pretty funny one). In fact, didn't TF2 have a Mann vs Machine thing? Wasn't around for that, but I heard about it.
Anyway, I honestly hope the focus of Overwatch stays as a multiplayer PvP shooter; if they add some kind of co-op mode, I'll keep an open mind and shit but I forsee it either released or announced within the next 9 months as the next big expansion or patch or DLC or whatever.
what the hell this looks like shit, i bet it is like 2 inches tall, at least i'll have the skins i guess
>>337305224
>gamestop
Dropped.
>>337293025
Plot outline:
>most robots get sentience (now called omnics)
>big war, the Omnic Crisis, happens
>Overwatch formed to stop it
>Mercy, 76, Reaper, Winston, the dwarf and maybe some others are the team
>crisis ends
>76 gets made head of Overwatch
>Reaper's jealousy of the white man comes to a boil and he quits
>globalist conspiracies use this to destroy Overwatch from the shadows
>globalist conspiracy tries to start a new Omnic Crisis through manipulation and assassinating a monk
>Winston sees the trouble brewing
>was raised by a combination of Jonathan Kent and Uncle Ben
>decides to pull a Nick Fury and make a new Overwatch because "The World Needs Heroes"
>like fucking 50% of games are named after the biggest group of heroes what the fuck kinda question is "why overwatch?"
>>337305932
Wrong tho.
Reaper was a good guy, but passed up (unfairly) for the leadership of Overwatch by Soldier 76. He instead got put in charge of Blackwatch, the shady, messy, and violent side of overwatch. It was completely covert and he was forced to do morally ambiguous shit, so he got pissed.
>>337306982
McCree was also part of Blackwatch and he didn't turn into a faggy edgelord.
>>337306982
I would like Reaper a lot more if he wasn't an utter edgelord. I know character traits are emphasized but goddamn Reaper is the spawn of a 13 year old boy who's read to many cape shit comics.
>>337307195
yeah he just ran away like a pussy
Anyone else dissapointed at the lack of "heroes"
a lot of people just feels like a generic character instead of a futuristic super hero.
>>337306982
>unfairly
Citation needed. Reyes had his chance to lead through the whole Crisis, and when things settled down everyone respected Morrison more.
>>337307637
They should put buzz lightyear in, then maybe is care about the game
>>337291280
>Will we see expans, DLC
I fucking hope so.
>ingame cosmetic store
Lord heavens no. I do not need to see some immersion breaking piece of shit costume for PLAY OF THE GAME
>>337308037
>I do not need to see some immersion breaking piece of shit costume for PLAY OF THE GAME
>he doesn't know
>>337307195
It was't his blackwatch service that made him edgy.
>>337307827
The impression I got is that it was a Nixon/Kennedy thing. Morrison was a photogenic pretty-boy who did some flashy shit, but Reyes was the one with real leadership capability and experience.
>>337307827
>The man who would later be known as Reaper was originally known as Gabriel Reyes. He was born in Los Angeles. Prior to the Omnic Crisis, he joined the United States military, where he achieved a senior officer position. He achieved veteran status, and was highly respected. At some point he met John Morrison, a fellow soldier, and the two became friends. Subsequently, in the midst of the Omnic Crisis, they joined Overwatch together—a small, elite taskforce created by the United Nations to deal with the omnic threat. Reyes was given leadership of the group.
>Overwatch succeeded in defeating the omnics. Morrison, who had played a key role in shaping the group, was given the position of strike commander, acting as the first, official commanding officer of Overwatch. Reyes was passed over in the process, which created a rift between the two men.[4]
>>337309740
I pity the poor soul that had to deal with all of those whining babies and copy/paste the same shit into a thousand tweets.
>>337309740
>get killed by a bastion
>better switch to his counter and kill him
>kay well now that was a waste of time
This counter pick stuff isn't a strategy, it's the thought process of a loser that got killed a few too many times by a certain character so now they switch to their counter.
>>337309419
As governments tried and failed to neutralize the machines, the United Nations was busy forming an international task force called Overwatch. This small, experimental group would bring together the best and brightest from around the world to wage asymmetrical warfare against the robots. Overwatch's short list of prospective agents included two members of the soldier enhancement program: Morrison and Gabriel Reyes, a senior officer. Reyes, a hardened and highly respected veteran, grew up about as far from rustic Indiana as you could get—the sprawling urban melting pot of Los Angeles. Despite their differences, the two soldiers became friends. Their decision to join Overwatch together would change the world, for good and for bad.
Leadership of Overwatch fell to Reyes, but Morrison would have a greater impact on the group in the long term. He brought out the best in the people around him and helped mold Overwatch's diverse (and sometimes conflicting) agents into a cohesive fighting force. In unity, they found the strength to defeat the robots and end the Omnic Crisis.
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/19809396/
That's the [4] in your citation from an unofficial wiki.
>>337310173
In a team-based game where there's no guarantee that your team's composition can handle any given enemy team composition, it is the most basic building block of a strategy.
>>337310173
The problem with bastion is he's an all or nothing character. He rapes or you pick the character that neuters him in which case why even have him in the game?
He just needa to be completely redesigned from the ground up.
>>337311183
>He rapes you
No. Like an Engi in tf2, he rapes a solo person that runs in without knowing something is there, or he rapes a team of retards that can't even bother to flag a mostly-immobile threat.
You pressure him with nickels and dimes of damage until he's forced to heal or retreat, and then you have all the time you need to get a stun off on him or hunt him down.
There's a reason all of the in-house balance tests point to Bastion being useless, and it's probably because the in-house testers have learned that you don't fight a meat grinder by standing in it.
>>337312086
I don't think you understood that post.
>>337305932
Winston is a Planet of the Apes rip off and overwatch is a Watchmen rip off.
Which i guess is fine because Blizzard has only ever rip offed major stories in fantasy, sci-fi, and now cape shit.
>>337312452
>>337311183 is implying that only the two snipers and Genji, with his "press this to kill Bastion" button, can deal with Bastion, and that all other characters are raped by him.
I am disagreeing with this, because every character in the game with a medium-range attack and a wall to duck behind can safely beat a Bastion. >>337311183 is right about Bastion being all-or-nothing, but he's right for the wrong reasons. Bastion either rapes you, or you've mastered the difficult art of strafing back and forth from cover so you can kill him.
post the worst SFM porn you can find the more uncanny valley the better its for a school project
>>337309740
Which other hero essentially requires someone switch to their hard counter?
Fucking nobody.
Fuck off Blizzard.
>>337313232
>the difficult art of strafing back and forth from cover so you can kill him
You mean get outdpsed by him unless he has the worst aim in the universe in which case he has still managed to lock you down despite being awful.
>>337291280
They already said cosmetic micro transactions all meaningful content will be free (any heros maps modes ect will be free)
>>337314456
>get outdpsed by someone who can only shoot you when you allow it
Ok, I'll break it down for you. When the enemy is immobile, you aren't honor-bound to stand out in front of him until one of you dies.
1. Be safe behind cover
2. Move the minimum possible distance from cover to hit Bastion (if you have an explosive, you can probably do this from within cover, so add Junkrat, Pharah, Zarya to that 'hard counter' list).
3. Shoot once
4. Move back to cover.
5. Repeat until he has to activate his healing, he runs, or he dies because he didn't do one of those two things.
Unless you have one arm, and are thus incapable of moving and shooting at the same time, this will work without fail. There is no excuse to ever die to a lone Bastion once you know he's there, because the entire fight is on your terms.
>>337314817
I'm sure it's easy to kill afk players.
>>337315089
You'd think that, but somehow people complain about Bastion.
>new heroes
Can't see it happening. They have a good roster already, and anything that's added will either be too strong or too weak. That or you'll see 1 per year, a really slow approach.
>>337315412
I just want them to add the fat hazmat man that was off to the left in a bunch of the promo stuff. I want a DoT debuffer.
>>337315412
I know it won't happen, but I wish they would add a Trump character that can make walls but they already made Mei...
>>337315569
Got an image? I can't remember any older characters.
>>337316150
Walls made out of ice and mexicans are very different.
>>337316242
>>337316242
I couldn't find wherever I saw it the first time, but here's the shot with him from the museum thing.
>>337317085
I count 11 people
>>337317064
I feel like the hazmat suit dude became Mei
>>337317218
I lowballed it because a bunch of them are gray blobs or vaguely resemble people we got. The guy in the back above Torj kinda looks like Zarya, for example, and the really small one beside Tracer's head looks like Reaper as a leaping leprechaun.
>>337291280
>business model continue?
small packs of loot boxes and other cosmetic sort of stuff. Maybe with pay loot boxes being more character specific with a chance for only pay loot box sort of "stuff".
if the game stumbles at launch and doesn't sell that well we will see less of everything. If it blows up huge we will see a ton of stuff as Blizzard will have racked up millions of dollars up front . The PC version being a cash cow for them being it's sold on their own digital platform.
each update will be hyped up and promoted as an event being the hook is to get more players to buy the game outright. I think they will make millions of dollars off the launch and rest is just gravy.
>>337318639
I mostly agree, but I also wouldn't be surprised with a third option: the TF2 approach, where they eventually abandon the console versions.
