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New DOOM pc gameplay
Thoughts?
Forgot link
https://youtu.be/anrvBD4aTGY
>>337284825
Ive had the game for two days already. The Walmart in my area put copies out waaay early for some reason.
The game is very fun. Its about as different from DOOM 3 as it can be. I played the first level and hated it. Then I played the second level and figured out what they were going for.
Its not a horror game, its supposed to make you feel like a fucking badass. And it does. But /v/ will hate it. There is a lot of modern FPS influence in it.
>>337284874
already bought the game...
1- obvious shill video, and shill post
2- Gfx look amazing
3- Why is this shill playing like an idiot switching weapons every time he fires with a weapon for 4 seconds?
>>337285398
So what you're saying is, it's not Doom, but it's still fun?
>>337285398
>Its not a horror game
Why is this even a point that you're making?
>>337285398
Who the fuck thinks of Doom as a horror except for ID during Doom 3 development and Midway Games
>>337285569
Why do you type like an underage faggot?
>>337285723
>id makes game
>its called doom
>specifically says its doom and on mars, demons are invading.
this isnt doom its not like the one i played in 1993, i aint buying it.
thats what you cucks sound like
>>337285918
>sharing the same name and setting are enough to be a good game, just fucking buy the game you fuck don't you like the brand
>>337284825
>>337284874
>Doomguy moves fast but stops on a dime
Looks like there's no momentum. OG Doom had momentum to it, if you stopped, Doomguy would slide for a second (Explosions would also propel dead monsters, who would slide for a long while, sometimes even up stairs)
>>337284874
Yup. Still looks like its gonna be fun.
>>337285737
A lot of people thought DOOM 3 was scary. I dont think anyone has ever said that about DOOM 1 or 2.
>>337285723
More or less. It has modern FPS stink all over it. BUT - here's where the game is really shining and reminding me of the old DOOM games:
1. The new DOOM really really encourages map exploration. There are little hidden nooks everywhere.
2. The game makes you feel like a fucking badass while still making you conserve ammo.
3. The fights are very fast-paced
>>337285918
Akchually, first 2 Dooms don't take place on Mars
>>337284874
Looks pretty damn sweet
>>337284874
wow, solo is faster than multiplayer, it looks fun
>>337284874
Why does this look so much faster than every other gameplay they've shown? The movement speed and weapon switching speed is dramatically faster.
Is this a setting? Or just his upgrades?
>>337285904
i am catering for retards like you
>>337287509
>Why does this look so much faster than every other gameplay they've shown?
They were running on PS4 and gamepads.
>>337284874
>fucking linear hallways and choke points where you have to fight X number of demons to open a door
>>337284874
I can't get over all the faggots on /v/ saying this looked slow. It's anything but.
>>337287553
So you become a faggot to cater to retards?
you suck retarded people cocks like your mother? you life sucks
>>337287509
High likelihood they increases movement speed to make the game look more interesting. Sure as hell doesn't move this fast in the PS4 retail copies
>>337289221
It isn't this that looks slow. It's the leaked retail copy footage that looks slow, which is a lot more believable than something designed to help sell the game
it's very linear. And i hated the instakills, that's the least doom thing ever
>>337289963
There's leaked retail copy footage that looks just as fast minus the precision/spastic playstyle of the guy on PC. I'm sure it's all a conspiracy, though.
>>337287509
Because he's playing on PC in this videop
>>337290392
But that doesn't make any sense
It's not like they made completely differently designed versions of the game between PC and consoles
Looks good
>>337290550
Try playing Doom on a controller, like the Xbox version, then play it on PC.
>>337289221
Haha can I get an amen fellow gamer? Those retarded idiots over on the /v/ sure were faggoty huh? This game looks definitely worth $60 USD AT LEAST. I for one am going to preorder the special edition after seeing this amazing video!!!
>>337290663
I won't pay 60 for it but it's still not slow you anal vomit spewing retard.
PS4 gameplay, still looking fast.
http://sendvid.com/nf4elkfm
>>337284825
>Thinking this casual shitfest is fast.
It's slow as fuck. This is doom, educate yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNGvoXKiIWg
>>337291424
Literally looks the same
>>337287553
>I'm only being retarded because you're retarded
Jesus Christ, faggot. Come on.
Looks like they made it "fast" just for the sake of it.
Like yeah, your character moves fast but in relation to how the enemies move and how many enemies there are in each level section at once it just looks unnecessary for the kind of game they made.
>>337291424
Even after watching some of this what OP posted is still fast. Even if you dont like the game you cant deny that
>>337290854
fuck off shill, it still looks like horse shit
>>337285808
i thought doom 64 was scary when i was a kid
>>337284874
>random jumping around and switching weapons like a spaz to make it look faster
>can't hide the fact that there's a very small amount of enemies
>can't hide the obvious monster arenas that plague every modern "retro" shooter
Fuck even shado warrior reboot has more monsters per arena right from the start
>>337287509
Remember the last time a video game trailer seemed "way too smooth and fast"?
Turned out they had played it at slow fps and then made it play faster.
That shitfest was called BamHam.
And they still havent fixed it.
>>337291769
Doom64 made me never want to touch doom.
i was 6 at the time
>>337291524
>>337291757
Are you fucking blind? How can anyone think nudoom looks fast is beyond me. Just go play your consolized piece of trash cinematic "game" or even better just kill yourselves shills.
>>337292420
It looks fast
>>337292420
You need to find meaning in your life if you're telling people to kill themselves over a fucking game. If you watched the same video I did and somehow think thats slow even though at times the player is going just as fast as there you're the one who's blind. Enjoy "games" you like, you don't need to try so hard to fit in. No one is taking away the original, you're asshurt over nothing.
>>337284874
I like how fast it is but the enemies look sooo easy. The Mancubus in Doom 2 was a significantly more deadly enemy than this. And just look at what happens when you get close to one in SS3 whereas here it might literally do nothing.
>>337293015
I think he's playing on the easiest difficulty
>>337293163
I want to play it on Nightmare right away but its locked off. Kinda lame to force two playthroughs for the hardest setting.
>>337292493
>>337292765
Thing is that video is a dev's reveal. The game has been leaked and it's even slower than the video in the op. And it was already pretty damn slow. Also you need to find meaning in your life if all you do is shill a generic garbage video game for 2 bucks a post. Get a real job faggot.
>>337293565
>Thing is that video a dev reveal
No it's not
>>337291765
You miserable fucks are so easy to trigger.
>>337293565
So discussing a game you dont like is shilling somehow? You are fucking insane for real and flat out denying reality if you think people dont want to talk about recent releases. No matter what they are there are people with different opinions than yours and you've been so conditioned by this website that your only response is
>SHILL
>ITS SHIT
>GENERIC
>KILL YOURSELF
You're the type of user that actively ruins discussion and makes the board a worse place.
Unless you have evidence to prove it's a "dev's reveal" then I will continue to think its exclusive gameplay from Nvidia to promote their new card, which is what it is. There are speed upgrades in the game that you can prioritize over other upgrades. If it comes out and its true this speed is impossible I will eat my words.
>>337285569
>3- Why is this shill playing like an idiot switching weapons every time he fires with a weapon for 4 seconds?
To make it seem like there's way more fast paced action going on than there really is.
>>337288409
>>337290167
I saw branching paths, the guy just didn't take them. Also, this is an early level. That hell level we saw was much more complex.
>>337284874
So this is the power of PC.
>>337291424
>posting final doom over doom 1
>>337286309
>"Shores of Hell"
The only good thing out of this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ErnpxTFUr4
>>337293970
Thing is, you are literally paid to shill this here. I'm not ruining any discussion here because everyone that isn't paid to shill this game don't like it. All I want is for you to fuck off. Go shill this trash on facebook or something.
Did anyone by any chance happen to save the video that showed the ending?
>>337291424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUBUYWIZUpE
>>337284874
Graphics look fine as hell. I also like how fast it is. Too bad I won't be able to get it since I don't have any 8th gen console or a high-end PC.
>>337291424
>This is a tool-assisted speedrun.
>>337284874
This is about 1.5x the speed of the demo shown at the nvidia conference
Holy shit I hope it's real
> All these armchair devs in this thread
y'all some salty nerds
>>337293015
>>337289221
>>337287509
>>337286775
>>337286143
>>337284874
The video speed is sped up you stupid underage fucks. Probably to avoid being easily detected by Jewtube and taken down.
Pay attention to the sound effects and especially the voices.
>>337296276
>being this retarded
>>337296276
Here's the (you) you want.
Wow, this Doom™ game looks very great and epic! I've already reserved 5 preorders at least for this $60 gem of a video game, which is being published by Bethesda™, a video game that no doubt has great talent there!
Fellow gamers, you've preordered this next Citizen Kane right? I mean, think of what your children would say if they found out you didn't buy this wonderful masterpiece that will only go up in value as the years go by.
>>337294085
this
his health was at max hp for most of the video. i wonder if the AI is really good enough to warrant all that movement...
>>337295887
Yes of course. The speedrunners are completely godlike fast. But I wanted to show how fast the game can be even if you kill every enemy and get all secrets.
>>337291424
Do you play on speedrun-tier difficulty to go that fast too? Idiot.
Look, we all know you run faster in DOOM than D44M, but that doesn't make D44M not fast.
>>337296372
>>337296506
Fuck off idiots. Watch it again.
>>337296557
At least it looks better than that turd Fallout 4. That was literal shit, am I right my mysterious mustachioed friend?
>>337297778
>being THIS retarded
How is the xbone version though?
>>337292284
you mean, an insufferably large amount of piss easy lowly monsters you could take off with your basic weapon and a setting and style that resembled Shadow Warrior never?
Fuck off with your 'underrated gem' meme, that game is right up the shitter with both UT4 and RoTT '13 for butthurt losers who can't recognize this game plays and looks infinitely better in every regard.
>>337299712
never said sw was good m8.
im sayimg even that shit looks good compared to d44m
>>337300543
>hamfisted 'story' and plot points that lead nowhere
>retarded tacked on muh spirits
>progression system no one asked for
>levels infinitely more linear than in this shit
>the game looks fucking nothing like the original
it's on par with what lays in my toilet as I type this lol
>>337300795
>it's on par with what lays in my toilet as I type this lol
agreed. still superior in every way to what new doom has shown so far.
>>337301143
>trying this hard to make a parallel to my undeniable logic
>no counterargument
thanks, that was easy
>>337301338
whatever m8 you don't like sw. I don't like sw either, so i don't see why i should defend it.
>>337294085
>>337292284
the illusion of speed of the game comes not from the weapon switch speeds you stupid shitcunts, it's the maneuverability and accuracy of PC controls, which allow for faster turning and reaction times which make the game feel faster, which fits Doom's playstyle down to a T
You guys are idiots. We're being raided by shills
>>337284874
This video was posted in another thread 4 fucking times and was confirmed by actual leaks of the game taken down by Bethesda to be edited footage.
>>337285398
Someone spammed something like this earlier as well, except it was a post from Reddit
>>337301861
>which fits Doom's playstyle down to a T
Except Doom was actually built around that while this is just doing it for the sake of making the game looking more frantic than it really is. That whole video there was like four demons on screen at once at the most making most of the weapon switching pointless meanwhile in 1 and 2 you had rooms filled to the brim with them making you prioritize which group you need to take out first which would also make you prioritize the weapon most effective on said group.
Out of curiosity, when did the "wanting every game to be trash before it's even out" meme start? TOR, right?
Because this is the most cancer. When your friends are more willing to believe that conspiracy theories are going on then "this game might not actually kill videogames" then there's an issue.
>>337302179
>This video was posted in another thread 4 fucking times and was confirmed by actual leaks of the game taken down by Bethesda to be edited footage
stop this meme you fucking mong
>>337301861
and the reality of it actually being slow comes from
>arenas
>low amount of monsters
>killing cutscenes
>shitty weapons
>movespeed WITH upgrades that's not eve as fast as regular doomguy runspeed without the diagonal movement boost.
>>337286152
>>337286324
>>337286775
>>337289221
>omg this edited footage looks soooooooooooo gooooood
Go shill somewhere else
>>337296372
>>337296506
>gets called out
>ur an redtard
You aren't helping
>>337302357
Don't know about being edited but it's definitely being spammed several times per thread as a
>look guys doom is totes fast!
>>337302387
>edited
It's not edited retard
>>337302357
>he didn't see the leaked videos
>he seriously thinks that edited shit is the actual content
>needing to resort to petty insults to defend your game
Nobody here wants to buy Doom.
>>337302315
>its just a meme guys
>spamming copypasta calling the game good and that you need to pretend its good
>spamming the same edited video 5 times a thread
>copypasting from Reddit for threads
>spamming threads with nothing but "its good" and ad hominem
Yeah guys, no shills here
>>337302386
>low amount of monsters
I own an early copy. You break 300 kills before the end of the second level.
>>337284874
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>>337284825
Looks good. I'm going ot get it.
>>337302525
Prove it, then
>>337288409
The levels are huge and open ended. I've missed a lot of secrets so far because I didn't want to go back through a maze to get to them.
>>337302728
Why do you think it's edited
>>337302636
>I own an early copy. You break 300 kills before the end of the second level.
I won't be like those fags that will automatically disbelieve you but if that is really the case, maybe bethseda marketing department should fucking show videos with more monsters then.
>>337302730
>guys I have the game trust me my dad works for Bethesda
>>337299712
>UT4
So its awesome?
>>337302807
Because it looks faster then the gameplay stream from a few weeks ago, the leak already showed the true gameplay, and the fact its not hard to tell its edited by the way everything moves.
Your a fucking idiot
>>337284874
Is he playing on the lowest difficulty?
>>337302948
>gameplay stream
That was on PS4 retard
>>337302620
>Actually resorting to "I-IT'S EDITED FOOTAGE" when it clearly isn't
>There's an upgrade system and the player actually gets faster as the game goes on, this is a thing
>You are actually more willing to jump to a videogame conspiracy theory that would be completely pointless on Bethesda's part than ever even conceive of the fact that this game might be okay.
I'm salty because /v/'s like REEE make GOOD GAMES but here's a game with open level design, reasonably fast gameplay and people who have played it saying "yeah this kinda reminds me of Seirous Sam"
But you don't want a good videogame, you want an epic meme circlejerk so you can post BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY for three months straight.
10/10 I'm autism-level mad
>>337302830
Games ship on the Wednesday before, retard. Whether it comes out this Friday or next Tuesday, stores have a copy, and I picked one up from someone I know.
Just entered hell, and the action does get rather hectic at times. I've died a couple times on Hurt Me Plenty just from being overrun. You can upgrade your max health, ammo, and armor with collectibles but armor seems to be the best bet for mitigating damage.
>secret found
>literally an open hallway behind 2 stacked boxes
wow
>>337302241
>doom had enemies everywhere
I want this meme to die.
Area control in Doom I/II, especially in the first game, was an extremely banal task to pull off, given how most rooms that happened to swarm the player in monsters were oftentimes a max of four pinkies and basic zombieman and a shotgun /chaingun that tore through them with ease, provided the player had his hands on these. The Super shotgun in Doom II made this an even easier task as it provided the player with the firepower to munch through most basic monsters while higher tier enemies like revenants and mancubi could easily be countered with a modicum of knowing how to dodge projectiles by taking cover, of which there is plenty to be found.
The big difference is that while this game has a supposedly lower enemy count, it makes up for the actual mobile speed of the monsters and their damage output. You can see in the footage just how deadly imps are up close, and how mancubi can easily drop your health from 120 to 30. It's not so much about sheer monster counts, but how they're employed. Doomguy was always faster than the monsters and their projectiles, don't pretend Doom was extremely difficult to play even in this day and age.
>>337302828
They don't want to scare off the casuals. I know people who won't play games that look too "complex".
>>337302940
No, it'sdead.
>>337303164
There are plainly visible secrets in most games with secrets. A few easy to find, some you have to hump walls to get.
I remember finding some secrets that were barely secrets at all in SS3
>>337303164
Early game secrets are pretty lame, but later on the secrets get really stupid to get to. I found one by walking along a ledge of a instant-kill drop then doing a strafe jump with the jet boots behind a blind corner.
>>337303284
I will give it the benefit of the doubt and wait till it's out to confirm how it is. But I'm certainly not gonna pre-order.
>>337303169
>I want this meme to die.
Are you kidding me man? Go replay Doom 2 on Ultra-Violence and say that again with a straight face. The city levels alone prove your retarded statement wrong.
>>337284874
looks nothing like doom
keep shilling, it's gonna sell.
>>337303475
Looks more like doom than doom 3 did
>Mini cutscenemations taking you out of the game EVERY 10 SECONDS
I blame the consumers
>>337303569
>it looks more like doom the literal garbage did
doesn't change a thing
>>337284825
I hope it encourages a resurgence of Doom 1 servers.
>>337303569
just keep shilling the regular way, not tameem way, come on, you can do it.
>>337296276
It actually says in the description that he has all of the speed and movement upgrades.
Personally not happy about RPG elements in the game, I just want fast from the start.
>>337285398
>its supposed to make you feel like a fucking badass.
I want to earn that feeling, not quicktime melee from start to finish. So yeah I probably will hate it.
Why is the level design so horrible?
>>337284874
looks pretty fun will for sure be picking it up
>>337303106
>Actually resorting to "I-IT'S EDITED FOOTAGE" when it clearly isn't
Leaked stream?
Normal PC stream?
The fact that it looks fucking edited?
>you have to upgrade to make the game fast
Why should something that has been a core feature in the game for years be resorted to an upgrade? The speed should be default, not earned through a fucking retarded RPG system. Speed should be a skill that the player can master, not one the player slowly earns. I'm not going to pretend the game is fast or anything like fucking Doom because of this.
>You are actually more willing to jump to a videogame conspiracy theory
>implying copypasting the same video 10 times a thread, spamming posts from Reddit, copypasting paragraphs of why the game is amazing, and despite the fact gameplay has always been out /v/ suddenly going "WOOOOWIE THIS GAME IS GOOING TO BE THE BEST GAME EVR!!!!!" is a conspiracy
>But you don't want a good videogame, you want an epic meme circlejerk
No, I want good video games.
Overwatch? Wolfenstien TNO? Shadow Warrior? Serious Sam 4? Deus Ex Mankind Divided? Hell, fucking Battlefield 1? UT4? Team Fortress 2? CS:GO? Squad? Verdun? Those are all great games, and I respect those for what they are. Hell, I actually enjoyed CoD up to MW2. To say I hate games because I don't like your disgraceful piece of fuck is insulting. Doom is slow, has terrible graphic design, shitty gameplay revolving around cinematic feel good kills, the worst of Halo slammed into MP, stupid RPG mechanics, and an overall lame experience?
And the game isn't out yet, why the hell should I trust someone on an imageboard that out the game before it comes out? Go fuck off to Reddit
>>337303432
>large amounts of corners to hide behind
>revenants and arachnotrons that are rendered moot by being placed in a higher ground and you can hide from
>caged imps facing walls you never go through and therefore never take damage from
>terrible level design and a laughable attempt at an open styled map, makes okay multiplayer map
you can call names all you want, the undeniable truth is how terribly these monsters are used and how easily you can run from scott-free/how easily you can take them out by employing your movement, which is exactly what you're seeing in these videos.
There's no emphasis on shitty gimmicks to make the game 'feel faster' as you so claim, there's only the superiority and flexibility of PC controls which allow for faster gameplay, which was always the case with Doom's console ports over the years.
>>337304060
I'M SUCH A JADED EDGELORD, IVE BEEN ON /V/ FOR YEARS AND YEARS. LURK MOAR FAGET, GB2REDDIT
>>337304060
Where does it look edited?
>>337304060
>And the game isn't out yet
>I cannot grasp the concept of how logistics works
>I do not know how these games arrive in stores
Games are shipped the week prior to release. Since Doom releases on a Friday, it was shipped on that week's Tuesday and received Wednesday.
>>337304060
It's blatantly not edited footage, he has every movement and speed upgrade in the game.
It's pretty fair to say it's lame that you have to get upgrades, but that's just a popular game design choice lately whether you like it or not.
>>337284874
Looks great, now multiply enemies by ten and redesign all the levels.
>>337304060
0/10
>>337304278
>i'm going to ignore everything you said and shitpost!
fuck right off
>>337304327
Okay, so I can just go to my local Gamestop, buy the game before its shelved
>>337304401
>its a popular game design choice
So I guess health regeneration, auto aim, ADS in tight maps, and QTEs are good choices? What, you don't like Call of Dut? Well fuck you, just buy it you entitled shitlord you have no choice.
>>337304258
I just remembered how fucking slow Doom on the XBLA was because of the controls.
The fact of it alone being a 2D horizontal-planed shooter didn't actually help at all, and the controls felt terrible to boot.
>>337304614
>Okay, so I can just go to my local Gamestop
No, they cannot authorize a sale early due to their system. You go to a store that isn't a large, multi-million dollar company and buy it from then.
>>337284874
>official nvidia channel
>it's fucking edited
this is fucking pathetic
>>337304060
>he'll suck off Wolfenstein when it's the same shit
rofl
>>337304745
>it's edited
It's not
>>337304401
>>337304304
>its not edited
Doomguy looks fidgety as fuck, stopping on a dime, and doors and enemies move way to fast.
It looks like a 2x speed increase. And it sure a FUCK isn't an FPS difference to the retard thinking PC and PS4 speed is different
>>337304401
>but that's just a popular game design choice lately whether you like it or not.
I hope you feel stupid after posting that
>>337304614
>health regeneration
not in the game
>auto aim
not in the game
>ADS in tight maps
not in the game
>QTEs are good choices
melee kills aren't even explicitly QTEs and are a)entirely optional and b)quick enough to flow through.
you seriously don't have an argument do you
>>337304745
>wahh its edited
you're my favorite shitposter, anon-kun
>>337304930
>asked where, so I can analyze it in depth myself
>means "its not edited"
Fuck off nigger.
>>337304930
>doors and enemies move way to fast.
this is how I know you're speaking out of your urethra and this is actually the very first footage you've seen of the game.
>>337305056
Are you fucking illeterate.
You said RPG mechanics is okay to have because its a popular game design choice and you need to get used to it.
And I said that by your logic, QTEs and auto aim are good design choices as well
Fucking hell you shills are retarded
>>337305325
not me senpai
Who preordered for half price here?
>>337305253
Yeah, and I gave you places to check out
>>337305274
>no its not lol
>>337284874
This is exactly what I'm looking for from a single player FPS
>>337305398
>implying your key from cdkeys isn't stolen and won't get your steam account banned
>>337305056
now this is a shill post!
>>337284874
It's comical seeing him constantly jump around and switching weapons every shot to give some illusion of difficulty and to make it look like Doom.
Especially when he keeps missing because he tries his hardest to make it look like you need to bunny hop 24/7.
>>337284874
The movement speed and shooting looks good.
I can't tell the difference between most of the guns, they seem equally as effective with different fire rates.
I like the 'battle for your life in this area' Serious Sam style of encounters.
The enemies don't seem terribly challenging.
There's a little too much "Press X to do something awesome" pauses.
People talking to me on System Shock style tapes is kind of dumb, but I get modern games seem to need some kind of narrative to breath.
I do like health pick-ups, but having armor literally on the (linear) path to every objective seems kind of cheesy.
I appreciate the metal music. It pays homage to the old Doom.
7/10, would pirate and buy if it was very good.
DO NOT DISCUSS NUDOOM
DO NOT PREORDER NUDOOM
DO NOT BUY NUDOOM
DO NOT PIRATE NUDOOM
PLAY ONLY CLASSIC DOOM (NO DOOM3 WHICH IS ALSO NUDOOM)
PROMOTE CLASSIC DOOM BY STREAMING/PLAYING/DISCUSSING IT ON THE RELEASE DAY AND SEVERAL DAYS AFTER OF NUDOOM
>>337305325
>compares optional upgrades to RPG mechanics
case in point
>>337284874
https://youtu.be/_2gQQUjx3j8
>>337295579
You're a fucking idiot. Im not a shill and this conversation is pointless because you're so paranoid and insane that literally nothing I say will convince you otherwise. Nothing I have said indicates that, I shared my opinion on the game and because it wasn't mindless and senseless hate you call me a shill.
>>337305756
>optional upgrades
WHEN THE FUCK HAS AN UPGRADE EVER BEEN "OPTIONAL" IN A GAME
WHEN HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ABLE TO RUN AROUND WITH LVL 1 STATS
And right after you said that if you want speed you have to upgrade.
Go fuck yourself, viral marketer
They'll never make another decent Doom without John Romero
This is a fact
>>337305971
>when have you ever been able to run around with lvl1 stats
it's not that hard in dark souls
it's hard but not HOLY FUCK hard, you just need to be on point with dodges, go raw weapon path
>>337306008
At the same time, I don't trust Romero on his own.
>>337296276
Nvidia sped up Arkham Knight to make it look like 60FPS but they did that so it wouldnt make their precious cards look bad. In this video I dont think its sped up at all, he just has the upgrades. And even in "non sped up" videos the Mancubus is still kinda retarded and easy.
Probably a stupid question but if I buy the physical PC release box, will there be anything inside at all other than a CD key for steam? It's been over a decade since I bought PC games outside of steam and I'm kind of wondering how it works these days
>>337306008
>attributing great games to one designer
stop this meme immediately
with this you get cult of personalities like kojima, megaman guy, gabe newell, and schafer that just end up fucking the consumer in the ass in the end
>>337305676
>making use of PC controls when playing on PC is 'p-pretending it's fast'
>even 'bunny hopping' as he so hard tries to call out as a gimmick is faster than it seems because, again, playing on PC
guess peeing while standing is a cheap gimmick too.
>>337296557
He has nothing to do with bethesda publishing
>>337303164
Yea, Doom and Doom 2 also have a lot of easy secrets as well as hard ones.
>>337306008
>wahhh John Romero isn't making it so it's shit
>when he made Daikatana which placed him in a even lower spot than shit
>wahhh John Carmack isn't on it so it's shit
>when he's mostly known for making up shitty gimmick engines nobody uses and casually tying a game around it as a forethought and not the other way around
I'm sure that'd go just right.
>>337306168
Its a disc but it only makes your Steam download shorter. The full game does not install from the disc like you would think.
>>337306231
You totally missed the point of my post.
I am saying that none of that is necessary. He is doing it to make the game look more difficult than it actually is. He misses so many shots because he jumps around, fires a shot, switch weapons, fires, jumps, switches, fires, and only one of the shots hits.
I don't know if he wants to look cool, or to say "S-See! It is Doom!"
That's some pretty cool artwork
A shame the actual game doesn't look anything like it
>>337303639
Can be disabled if im correct.
>>337306531
>makes your Steam download shorter.
This is what I'm really hoping for anyway
>>337306231
>it's faster
If the controls allow for a faster pace than normal you are still just playing a slow game quickly.
>>337306804
I hear it only goes from 50 to 40 gigs so it may not be worth it
>>337306197
>megaman guy
>>337306914
Inafune. "Megaman guy" is all he'll ever be, anyway.
>>337291424
I look at this and my head hurts, I feel like puking.
>with the player's personal upgrades and rune perks set for advanced speed and movement capabilities
Who am I supposed to believe here?
>Motion Blur can be set to four settings: Low, Medium, High, and Off.
Kind of thankful for this. It allows you to keep some of it without it making it feel like Doomguy is drunk. That being said, the blur effect is actually not too bad by itself normally. It only kicks in during glory kills and when you spin around fast. Having it on Low retains it in glory kills, but turns it off when moving around.
Also, upgrade your ammo capacity as soon as you unlock health/armor/ammo upgrade stations. Chainsaw energy starts at 3 pips, and you need more if you want to kill a Mancubus with it.
>>337284825
...
>>337307290
To build on that, from what I've seen:
Revenants require 3 pips, Mancubi require 5, Hellknights require 3, haven't tried to chainsaw a Baron yet because fuck that, and Summoners (This game's arch-vile" take 3.
>>337307419
What happens if you try to chainsaw an enemy you have insufficient fuel for?
>>337306806
that's some terribly shitfaced logic.
Have you ever tried playing a Doom console port? Hint hint: the controls are shit and your movement is as restricted as you could get, and your reaction times are completely gimped as a result. Guess playing PSX Doom on the original system also counts as playing a slow game quickly.
Go play Doom on the GBA and then come back and tell me with a straight face you can aim for shit.
>>337306602
he misses gauss cannon shots two out of three times, but other than that, his aim is actually not-shit. Plus his hand is all fucking jittery, you can tell he's pumped as shit.
>all this complaining
I'll laugh. I'll fucking laugh when this game sells well, gets good reviews, and /v/ tries to suck its dick like they knew it was gonna be a hit from the beginning. Happens every fucking time with these threads
>>337307486
If you have a chainsaw out and you look at an enemy, even if you aren't right in chainsaw range, it'll saw on your screen: "Insufficent fuel" and will show you the pips you have, with the remaining pips you require being Xed out.
Saw if you tried to chainsaw a Mancubus with only 3 pips, it would show something like:
Insufficient fuel [--- XX]
in red below your crosshair
This is actually the first gameplay I've seen where the game looks good.
The level design looks kind of boring to me though, why not add some pitfalls, acid/lava, maybe more open spaces or something?
>>337307570
>even if the room is filled with three slow enemies, the game is fast if I can jump in a straight line on solid ground and switch weapons three times to kill one
>>337307665
saw = say
Christ, I'm tired.
Mmm hmm, yep. The savior of the DOOM franchise
Maybe playing it at the biggest difficulty with all the speed upgrades will feel like Doom???
>>337307738
>imps move at fucking terminal velocities to claw away at your health for 10/15~ hp each hit
>hell knights, barons and mancubi leap and sprint towards you, even fucking zombiemen run while shooting
>revenants shoot while flying around
sure, slow enemies. Let's leave it at that.
>>337284825
Why do companies need to be dishonest? Why not just make a good game so you don't need to fucking trick people into paying first and regretting later?
>>337308353
Too much effort and passion required, making a shitty game that you can mask is much easier.
>>337308353
Because it's much easier to make a shitty game and sell it to you on lies.
>>337308432
Is it really, though? You gotta go through all the trouble of bribing people, hiring shill marketers to viral shit, and having to keep all your lies consistent until the consumer's money is in your hand
>>337308216
nice strawman post my man
I wonder if all those people bitching about the 'perks' are aware that the only 'speed upgrades' the game has allow you to perform melee kills faster and changing weapon mods faster, which you can even then change to suit your style of play
and that they're completely optional to boot.
>>337308587
Shill marketers are easy to find, passionate designers are few and far between.
>>337308729
> wonder if all those people bitching about the 'perks' are aware that the only 'speed upgrades' the game has allow you to perform melee kills faster and changing weapon mods faster
Didn't you just fucking say perks were the only way to make your game faster
And perks are a shit mechanic,optional or not
>>337308353
>>337308432
>>337308549
stay golden, /v/
>>337308587
no everything is a conspiracy to steal money from you and only /v/ can save you from the jews.
>some people on here actually believe this
>IT'S NOT MUH DOOM
>MUH DOOM NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE SHIT SMEARED ON A SCREEN AND NEEDS TO HAVE LE EPIC FASTNESS LIKE SONIC THE AUTISMHOG
damn, you people really did scare all the good developers away to consoles with these whiny tantrums every time something's new at all.
>>337308353
They spent NINE YEARS making this game, they're desperate to recoup losses and keep their jobs.
theres so much bait in this thread, from both sides of the spectrum, fuck all of you
>>337308865
>Didn't you just fucking say
lol I never said shit other than in that post where I proved your bitching moot
>>337308353
>>337308432
>>337308549
>>337308587
>>337308737
>abloo bloo
>>337308919
>slow, plodding gameplay is "new"
>Halo is "new"
>>337308919
>P-PC gamers r entitled consoles are more friendly!coughCallofDutyInfiniteWarfarecoughcough1milliondislikes
>>337308994
also you guys probably smell like poo irl, lol
>>337309003
>if I imply they are whining, that invalidates their point
Every time a new big name game is coming out it will be vehemently defended by "fans" that seem to disappear after the first three or so days of the game's release. Weird right?
>>337309003
So then the game actually is slow as fuck and their is now way to make it faster.
At least you proved the other shill wrong, but you are probably getting a cut in wage, shill
>>337309005
>i-its slow
>i-its edited
>i-its halo
you're just as stupid as those people you so rightfully try to call out.
>>337286309
I'm pretty sure the first level of Doom 1 is on mars
>>337308898
I never mentioned the Jewz and I never said it was a conspiracy, a conspiracy would imply it is subtle enough to plausibly deny
>>337309157
>it's not slow
>right after you just shitposted super hard about how stupid everyone who wants it to be fast is
Also you don't seem to know what you are actually saying, I think you meant "righteously"
>>337309140
>this delusion
everytime a game gets shat on in this board it unexplicably ends up with a considerable amount of people coming out of the woodwork after its release discussing its stronger/weaker points and then reaching a consensus around it, instead of simply bashing it for whatever made-up reasons you try to hide behind. Now that's bizarre!
>>337308898
But most AAA titles ARE designed to fleece money from you. Or did you already forget the downgrade fest that is this generation?
>>337309157
>I'm not going to refute your point just insult you
Shill tactics 101
>>337309351
And then those people disappear, three days after release. Then we are left with nothing but the facts about the game, and no pithy justifications from strangely determined defenders.
>>337309307
>every person I discuss with is the same
>if I make mention of a single typo it makes me look smarter
thanks for the greentext
>>337309524
That's not a typo, that's using the incorrect word.
>every person I discuss with is the same
Well if you aren't the other guy you just rushed in to defend him while simultaneously not supporting any of his points, good job.
buncha nerds in this thread arguing about games lmao why dont you just play em..
>>337294738
Final Doom has all of the variety of Doom II with better levels. It's superior to Doom in just about every way.
>>337309501
>facts
such as? that a game being played on a console is somehow slower paced than it being played on a PC? because that's the only thing you keep bringing up.
and if people here don't feel like bringing up a game for discussion, it's most obviously because shitposters already have taken the higher ground on it and choose to dismiss any positive points brought up as 'shilling' and basically shit up any sort of discussion on the matter.
>mfw excited for Doom 4 because I'm getting it for free
>>337309916
The game is the same on both platforms, the control scheme simply allows a faster pace for the player on PC. They aren't going to release two versions of the same game on different platforms, the best PC players will get is the chance to play a slow console game with a faster than usual player character.
>>337309769
>calling something names means I have a point
>'lol halo'
I don't have to step in for anyone when everyone as well as I know you're a blatant idiot beforehand
stop trying to hide behind 'y-you didn't prove any of my points wrong' when you had no argument to begin with other than buzzwords
>>337309856
>262.6 kb/s
you're right, that is triggering.also how did you get it already?
>>337304745
whats even better is it's running on vulkan and not dx12 :^)
>>337310190
>the game is slow and bears a striking resemblance to Halo
>FUCKING RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT BUZZWORDS BUZZWORDS YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT
You don't know what a buzzword is.
>>337310067
>Excited for rape because it's free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO90omga8D4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sW7jp0u0PI
>>337310746
>>337310653
>shit I can't stop the tide of negative opinion
>I MUST ATTEMPT TO MARKET MORE DIRECTLY
Earn that paycheck man.
>>337310157
>They aren't going to release two versions of the same game on different platforms.
I did not imply at any point I expected two separate parts of the same game to be sold. I merely mentioned how a game that just so happens to be a first person shooter has a more manageable control scheme and responsiveness with a keyboard and a mouse than you could ever have while playing with a controller, and the illusion of the game being 'slow' is nothing but a fake notion people have because Bethesda just so happened to show off the game on consoles, presumably to show how 'fast paced' it is even withing the threshold of console movement limitations.
It's the equivalent of showing off a new friend who has no idea what Doom is a level being played on the Xbox, with very poor aim and environment awareness, walking all the time and bumping on the walls. Not once will he be under the impression that the game is a fast paced old school FPS at any point. Compare that to how fast you can circlestrafe, dodge, crowd control and turn while playing on PC.
>>337310403
>>the game is slow and bears a striking resemblance to Halo
if only you would have actually said this, and if only you would have an actual argument than just regurging what everyone else says because you have no idea what's wrong about the game because you can't think for yourself
>>337284874
Looks pretty fuckin` baddas senpai
>>337310403
>I GOT CALLED DUMB BY TWO PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET HOLY SHIT AD HOMINEM AD HOMINEM
>>337310936
And compare how slow the enemies still are despite that. Because the game was designed with consoles in mind.
Yes, you can play it quickly, but the game itself can do nothing to match your pace. You would be playing Dark Souls with the player mechanics of blood borne, you would be playing call of duty with the abilities of quake.
>>337311226
Well you certainly aren't making any coherent points still.
>but I don't have to because you are just so obviously wrong
why even bother discussing video games at all here? if you don't shit in your hand and throw it at new games like the frothing, raving chimps that post here, you're accused of advertising for them and will get millions of shitposters here all uniting together to send you out caked in 7 inches of feces.
>>337311356
you really want to have the last word, don't you
>>337311596
Says the person who can't stop replying
>>337311356
>>337311596
get a fucking room you two
Just came to this thread, what a bunch of faggots.
>>337311686
Fuck you we're doing it in the road.
>>337311558
why are you here? Just drop in for le funny meme pictures?
>>337311652
Straight up shit flinging monkeys.
>>337311819
>stop talking bad about this game, you just hate it because you want to hate it
Maybe a lot of people are genuinely dissappointed with what they have been shown? Maybe consumers don't have to buy every piece of media being marketed to them?
But no if you complain about something you are just a shitflinging monkey.
>>337311558
I hope it bombs, marketer-san
>>337295201
Shores of Hell is Deimos, fucknuckle. Phobos > Deimos > Hell > Earth >Hell again. Doom one and two. No Mars.
Mars isn't walked on by Doomguy until Doom 3.
Doubt you played through the originals.
I bought DOOM 2 days ago for the ps4, game's actually really fast.
>>337312221
>fast by console FPS standards
>>337309164
You trolling? It's Phobos.
Reminder that an officially console exclusive part horror DOOM game is more faithful than this
>>337311259
you'd have a point if the player didn't come to a halting stop when he reached 10 hp in the footage, twice.
also, your qualm against monsters being slow is nonsense. If anything, they're faster and more interactive with their surroundings than they ever were, and that's not just speaking for lower tier monsters alone. There were instances in the PC footage where the player would get pelted with fireballs that are even faster than in Classic Doom, that alone is on par with the classic nightmare difficulty, where enemies would deal more damage and be more active in general. If you would have seen some of the footage of people playing on consoles that were released a couple of days ago, you'd have seen they're having a shit time playing it. They die literally as soon as they stand in a corner as a mancubus would shoot at them and wreck them, or have a hell knight peek through with the same results.
>Because the game was designed with consoles in mind.
This is an understatement. The game's combat pace was at large designed in a way so that console players could still get a hold of it while still being faster than other modern titles, but this by no means shows PC players are condemned to suffer for it. Not only does ID think ahead of the PC community to provide advanced graphical options, but they thought of how movement and fluidity would affect the feel of the game, regardless of their platform focus. The footage shown here is solid proof of this.
Shadow Warrior '13 too was designed with console controls in mind, does that make it an inherently bad game to play regardless of your platform of choice?
>>337312559
I cant imagine how big of a faggot I would have to be to go on the internet and argue about a fucking DOOM game made by fucking bethesda... fucking christ man.
>>337312551
it really isn't.
thanks for taking the time to put up 'doom 64 cover' in google images so you could show us your epic hyperbole.
>>337312559
>they thought of how movement and fluidity would affect the feel of the game
No, they didn't, because it's impossible to make an FPS game equally challenging on both PC and Console without redoing the enemy AI for PC. What's going to happen is, console players are going to be cowed by a slightly faster than normal FPS while PC players get bored out of their minds because all enemies move at a pace designed to make them easy to hit with a controller.
>>337284874
Is this sped up? The actual shooting looks great but why the fuck is the player so fast
>>337312685
>I cant imagine how big of a faggot I would have to be
that's all people need to read haha
>>337309064
>P-PC gamers r entitled consoles are more friendly!
To be fair, this is a very true mindset that many publishers have in mind when it comes to PC. If the PC version of the game is broken, who gives a shit, no one was going to buy it anyway. PC gamers are entitled thieves. But if the console version of a game was broken beyond believe, they'd fix it right quick and spitshine Sony's/MS' shoes at the drop of a hat. You don't want to piss off any of the platform holders, unless you want to be denied permission for game publishing. On PC, there's no one to piss off but the consumers.
>>337312551
It's a good game too. Doom64 EX is a worthy timesink for any Doom fan.
That new Bedshitter abortion? Got frustrated just watching a fucking stream. Hope it affects their profit margin and shareholder confidence. It's like rebooting Back To The Future and giving directorship to Michael Bay.
>>337292284
>>random jumping around and switching weapons like a spaz to make it look faster
He's jumping to make projectile enemies arc their shots higher so they take longer to reach him and it's easier to strafe them.
He's switching weapons to cancel the reload animations so he can shoot faster.
Do you even FPS?
>>337285918
>id makes game
Companies don''t make games, the people in said companies do. All the key people in that helped make doom as great as it is, are no longer at id. In fact, the people who were at id and still work there would have made Doom much much worse if they were in a major role at the time.
>Kevin Cloud
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_WAD
The idea of making Doom easily modifiable was primarily backed by Carmack, a well-known supporter of copyleft and the hacker ideal of people sharing and building upon each other's work, and by John Romero, who had hacked games in his youth and wanted to allow other gamers to do the same. Not everybody in the id Software crew was happy with this development, however; some, including Jay Wilbur and Kevin Cloud, objected due to legal concerns and in the belief that it would not be of any benefit to the company's business.
>>337312809
Tell me how much 64 strays away from classic DOOM gameplay, because last I checked it doesn't have finisher animations and mission objectives.
>>337312968
Player being fast is a side effect of a fisheyed FOV (looks like 130 to me) In reality with regular comfortable FOV (106 horizontal, 90 vertical) it wouldve looked quite slower.
Note that most console FPS have FOV of 86-90 horisontal and 75-80 vetical (Halo, DOD)
>>337313131
And fat lot of good that did him in 2-3 enemy max encounters where every enemy dies in one or two shots. It's like using pro speed runner strats on the tutorial.
>>337312559
>calling id, ID
You can't even get a simple 2 letter name right. Your opinion is invalid.
>>337312934
can you tell me with a straight face that the stationary, often slow-moving monsters in the original games, coupled by the large amounts of cover to make use of and the aid of autoaim, are somehow a more fitting challenge for console players?
Because you could very well make up that point while you're at it.
>>337284874
Looks dope as fuck. They are definitely giving fans of the original DOOM campaigns what we wanted.
>>337313293
Ooh I see
>>337313398
>what are lost souls
>what are Revenants
>what are Archviles
>>337313114
>gets visibly frustrated watching someone play a fucking videogame
hahaha holy shit, that's some next level asperger's
>>337313114
I only started playing 64 EX recently after playing the 1&2 a while ago, and wow they really did a good job of adding a whole bunch of ambiance while keeping the classic gameplay.
>>337313246
>bringing up features that are entirely optional, one of them even being toggeable
you're running short of comebacks. being a nostalgic moron engrossing an older thing doesn't help your case either. I bet you stand by the statement of Doom 3 being a good game by the sole virtue of it not being Doom 4.
>>337284874
It doesn't really look like doom when it comes to level design. Still looks really fucking fun though so I'll get it day 1
>>337313528
man, how did I know you were going to bring that up?
>lost souls
rendered useless by the aid of autoaim+chaingun/plasma rifle, even more of a convenient combo in console ports of the game.
>revenants
moving behind a wall is hard.
>archviles
as in, really really hard.
>>337287509
Says in the video description they were playing with the characters upgrades focused on speed.
So there seems to be some upgrade system in the game, and this game play is representing that.
Looks pretty sick to me.
As usual every other response to your question here is just different faggots making shit up, again.
>>337313398
Original doom was fast dispite the numpad control limitation. We are past those limitations now.
>>337313802
Doom 3 missed what made DOOM great entirely, much like this one
>also muh optional
do you defend babby golden tanooki suit too?
>>337313552
It sure is, you could feel the flat yet unresponsive nature of the controls combined with the schizophrenic level design and the non-existent pacing. The art style looked like a design-by-committee where everyone threatened to throw their toys if they didn't get their way. Pretty uncomfortable viewing.
You ad hominem spouting fuckstain.
>>337312992
PEE CEE GAMERS ARE ENTITLED THEIVES REEEEEEEEEE too bad they make more money that retarded console trash
>>337313246
>being a literal 2D remake of the former game with fancier FX and music+fog=good game 10/10
there's your faggot mentality
>>337310503
>Autism
Not all slow FPS's are bad.
That being said, this is just a mediocre game with a legacy name slapped onto it. Wait for the hype to die down...... and play better games like this in the meantime
>>337314142
Only in F2P games. Console games on PC fare significantly worse.
>>337314197
Did you play it? All of the levels are different, Monster designs are different, and artstyle is different. It's another game in the Doom series, not a re-release.
>>337314312
It says something when f2p games on PC make more money than anything put on consoles desu.
10 more hours boys
>>337314126
>I can tell if the controls are unresponsive without even playing the game
>I can tell the level design is bad without having explored the levels
>I can tell there's no pacing because I eavesdropped into a random level further into the game without knowing about it
I would diagnose your autistic ass with a prescription of sertraline and a safe environment in fear that you cause yourself harm. And that's without knowing you :^).
>>337314516
But what consoles make is still good money. By comparison, GTA5 made like 200 million on PC, while it made like 315 on consoles. That's not counting the fact that it came two years after the original console versions, and the fact that the console profits may as well be from four platforms. Shit, if the PC alone made 200 million versus four platforms making 300, that's not bad.
>>337314613
>sertraline
Aside from that it's totally correct to judge the level design as shitty from simply watching gameplay. You can see that shit.
>>337314613
Watched a 45 minute stream and played the multiplayer beta, but whatever, enjoy your buyer's remorse. :^)
>>337314197
You didn't even play it faggot, also making some non-gameplay intrusive touch ups while making a whole new set of levels is way more impressive than this lazy shit, and that was 9 years ago.
>>337314819
*19 years ago
fug
>>337304258
Literally one of the few non-turbo autists on this website when discussing D44M in comparison to Doom 1/2. Glad you are looking at it with the same eye I am. Looks like fun and if it isn't, I'll at least have Ultra Nightmare to wade me over.
>>337314314
the mechanics are left untouched for the most part save for a few alterations to monsters to make them slower than they formerly were to fit console controls. Aesthetic touches such as graphical enhancements to give the game a sense of technological progression has nothing to do with said mechanics, same for new levels of which there are already literal millions of websites you could download for classic doom entirely free, different textures included.
You paid for a dumbed down Doom mod, you chair-rocking imbecile.
>i-its shit g-guys please stop ignoring m-me
>>337314930
I downloaded and played Doom 64 EX for free, you daft queef.
>>337305971
>devs explicitly said that game is beatable without any additions
>trying this hard to shitpost
holy fucking shit, anon. Cool the turbo jets on that autism.
>>337314924
>doom 1/2
Played with a numpad with tank controls, still fairly fast
>doom 4
All the freedom of the controls of both console (compared to the tank numpad) and PC, still can't design the AI to match.
>>337314819
you're essentially the biggest fucking retarded piece of shit to ever disgrace the thread, congratulations.
>>337284874
>Smooth gameplay
>Can use many different weapons at once
>Fairly fast
>You die quite easily and don't have any regenerating health
>Secrets
>Powerups
>/v/ shits on it
Man fuck this board
>>337315053
you played a doom mod, great, I feel so good for you, please allow me to suck your dick for being such a smart fellow
lol
>>337315042
>marketing this hard
>>337315042
>made my first concrete opinion and saw what they were really trying to go for when I saw it at E3
>hurr u just listen 2 vees opinion xD
>>337315042
>~300 replies
>ignored
>trying to make your own meme
nice bait
>>337315064
You literally can't use the chainsaw to kill higher tier monsters unless you upgrade it
>>337315143
Finishers are supposed to ackt like regenerating health in this case. They also give more HP on lower levels.
>>337315212
marketing what?
>it's a D44M thread
>>337314805
>I did my homework mom I swear
lmao look at this sorry tryhard piece of shit trying to justify his shitfits over the internet
>>337314819
>you based your impression on a video that was supposed to give you impressions, you faggot!
>>337315227
>Formed your entire opinion at the very first instance you saw the game
Yeah, fucking exactly.
Holy shit this fucking board.
>>337315279
The game the thread is about.
>>337315116
How brain dead are you dude? The AI in Doom wasn't fast at fucking all. Doom was never about fast enemies, but about someone fast enough to outmaneuver them. They waddle (or float) toward you at the same speed as fucking Jason Vorhees. I'm not saying the game is as fast as any Doom engine game in regards to your speed, but the way they implemented both your standard speed and the capabilities/speed of the demons makes it an even playing ground like the original. Demons can fuck you up and you still move faster than them. Console controls are almost spot on with tank controls, including the difficulty of aiming. PC controls, i.e. M&K, work well with the game, as you don't turn well past your enemy or at the pace of a god damn snail.
>>337314613
>>I can tell the level design is bad without having explored the levels
not that guy and as someone who actually owns the game, levels are actually confusing, and the 3d map with that retarded coloring going on it doesnt help.
>see map
>oh this area is grayed out, i might have missed it
>i've been there already
>>337315481
and what did i market in my post?
>>337315209
Is this just a "getting the last word in" thing now?
Don't bother.
>>337315398
You can move goalposts all you want, they still haven't done anything to make me want to change my opinion.
>>337315398
>opinions aren't allowed to change
>everyone should just blindlessly make shit rain on something I don't like while disguising random opinions as personal thoughts
Not everyone's fault you feel fucking persecuted.
>>337315398
Yeah man you should buy a piece of media at full price before you dare have an opinion on it. Don't form one on the various snippets and segments released to the public, just blindly buy it.
>>337315356
Homework stopped for me 18 years ago.
>Kids
>>337315489
>console controls
>tank
>implying
It's not going to be tank controls on console, it's going to be standard 2stick aiming.
>>337315585
You can go on being an idiot but just keep it to yourself and dont shit the thread up. Very valuable lesson this whole board could learn.
>>337315316This is more balanced than Doom 4's pinatas
>>337315740
>if you formed a bad opinion on this game, you are shitting up the board
>positive opinions only in our marketing thread
Yeah brunch that new chainsaw kill was EPIC WIN! So brutal.
>>337291424
>posts a speedrun vs normal gameplay
>new doom footage is just as fast
Holy fuck.
>>337293292
>Nightmare is locked off
please tell me you're kidding.
>>337315490
>levels are actually confusing
oh, so whoever the fuck thought about a Doom game with exploration in 2016 should be kneecapped because exploration is a bad thing now. Because nostalgic shitters totally didn't throw a shitfit over the levels being linear and that they wanted to 'get lost while playing'.
That's nice.
>>337315610
>>337315614
you guys are funny
>yeah you fucking sheep just buy the game you're not informed like me!
>also i formed my opinion before i even saw the game!
cant make this shit up
>look up requirements
>have 16 GB RAM and a 970, meet the recommended
>CPU is an FX 6100, too slow
I know this is a shit game, but still sucks.
>>337315740
>you held onto your first impressions so you're and idiot
Yeah, fuck off marketer, maybe don't continue to make the game look like the definition of uninteresting
>>337315695
>moving goalposts
>>337315861
Its not that you have a bad opinion, its that you have an unfounded, uninformed opinion. get it? perhaps leave the thread maybe, crazy thought.
>>337315804
No kidding, some of NuDoom's enemies drop upwards of 50 points of health upon death.
It feels very much like a modern shooter where everything can kill you in 2-3 hits but you can recover max health in no time rather than the slow and gradual whittling down of the player's health and resources in the original Doom games.
>>337284874
>The sounds are clearly higher pitched
>The animations are clearly faster
>The effects are clearly sped-up
The video is sped-up but only for the first two minutes
>During both the sped-up and normal sections, there are still FUCKING FPS DROPS
Stupid design decisions I've noticed:
>The armor and health are not shared. The armor goes down first, instead of armor simply reducing how much health you lose.
>Mancubus is retardedly easy, without large projectiles.
>Needing fucking hand-thrown grenades when you have the rocket-launcher and several other explosive weapons
>The blood and gore look underwhelming despite that being a selling point
>The bodies disappear, probably because the game is poorly-optimized.
>They clearly have stolen idea both from Brutal Doom and Project Brutality
>Strafing is too slow or non existent, a side effect of consolization. In fact, there's no useful movement sideways,even a dedicated dodging move
>To get to certain areas, you have to perform special "use this" actions that force you watch a 3-5 sec animation
>There are too many you cannot backtrack to
>Haste, ironically, does not increase the speed much
>Automatic checkpoints a dime a dozen
>Striking disproportionate monster count/cover count ratio
Plus many other issues besides the obvious ones like forced story, glory kills, weak guns, console controls etc.
>>337314301
I agree. See early Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon. The thing is that slow FPS's are meant for more strategic/tactical gameplay where you must think before you act. Fast FPSs should always force you to think on the fly, improvise, and be concerned for your immediate surroundings.
Unfortunately, this Doom does neither.
>Timesplitter
I really need to play that series. Which version is it better to play on? PS 2 or Gamecube?
>>337315316
>enemies don't glow and stagger for 20 minutes
too hard for me
>>337315986
>man look at this shit I don't want to play but I want to take a look at what it takes to play it
never fucking leave
>>337315724
Dual stick, semi-fluid movement is an evolution of tank-style controls like those found in R.E. and Doom. It's not tank controls, but it certainly feels primitive when I want to blow a demon's brains out in one shot, but my analog stick can't center on the fucker's head.
>>337316038
>unrelated terminology
>>337315316
Kek, this great anon
>>337285569
>3- Why is this shill playing like an idiot switching weapons every time he fires with a weapon for 4 seconds?
You can switch weapons at any time to cancel animations, even while a weapon is on cooldown (e.g. SSG reloading) to constantly output damage
Seems a bit broken desu, constantly switching between SSG and gauss to avert their cooldown times
>>337316089
>>Haste, ironically, does not increase the speed much
I won't even bother with anything else you mentioned because it's either your personal opinion or wrong for a miriad of reasons but
what
>>337315949
>>337316067
Then maybe Bethesda shouldn't have made it so you're uninformed if you made an impression off it, what the fuck is the point of an E3 presentation
This game looks like shit. I've taken to calling it Retard 4 instead of Doom 4.
>>337316289
>E3 always represents the final product
I want to know how many of you retards are out there.
>>337285723
Feels like Quake 2 desu
>>337285808
Even PSX Doom and Doom 64 had the same pace as PC Doom, it was only more horror-y visually
>>337287509
Speed upgrades and FOV is set to max setting
>>337316421
Unless I just missed the news that they told ZeniMax's shareholders to fuck off I can't imagine it changed much from the mess I saw.
looks like and excellent day 1 pirate
>>337284874
Wow. They finally released a few minutes of footage that make this game look even remotely fun a couple of days before its release.
Bethesda's marketing team must be among the dumbest people in the entire western world.
It's probably gonna be good fun, I would play it for sure.
It's hilarious how you fuckers are clinging to vanilla doom, never realizing that it won't ever be the same again. They specifically said multiple times that they're trying to get this as close to classics as possible, and obviously they cant ignore modern technology and trends in vidya, but all you hear is "ITS GONNA BE SAME EXACT DOOM AS IN 1993".
Pathetic.
>meanwhile I'm at work playing vanilla doom
If I'm not having a seizure, it isn't fast enough. Enemies should be a brief splash of pixels on a single frame.
>>337316067
>uninformed
I'm as informed as Bethesda allowed me to be. As all of their released information seems uninteresting.
>unfounded
Again, my arguments are based off of the footage Bethesda themselves thought was worthy of release.
>>337316951
>obviously they cant ignore modern technology and trends in vidya
So support it?
>>337305971
Still looking for lewd versionfo this
there has to be
>>337316490
>Even PSX Doom and Doom 64 had the same pace as PC Doom
False. Enemies for starters were balanced for console play, making them react slower, deal less damage, and, in the case of monsters such as commandos and revenants, made them slower movement wise, making them a laughable self-imposed challenge more than an actual threat.
You could argue that the games were as fast as Classic Doom, but this had most to do with the fact that they ran off the same engine and thus took minimal effort and risks in innovating gameplay save for a fistful of tweaks here and there.
>>337316089
Oh shit you're right.
Reminds me of that sped up Arkham Knight shit they pulled.
>>337316089
It really just comes down to preference; with the GC you'll have an easier time setting up a four player game, but with PS2 you have LAN support.
The first one is PS2 exclusive, so keep that in mind.
Future Perfect has the best aiming controls, but I'd say 2 is the best overall.
>Haste, ironically, does not increase the speed much
wat
>>337316282
Shut up shill. You don't even know the game you play.
Go to 2:25 in the video. The player picks up a temporary power-up called haste. He clearly has the same movement, shooting, and switching speed before and after.
>I won't even bother with anything else you mentioned because it's either your personal opinion or wrong for a miriad of reasons
What a coward, you take the shitpost and mock me, yet you won't take the time to post those reasons. You're adorable.
I guess they are paying you by the post count rather than by time. I'm so sorry.
>>337316951
I just want a new AND GOOD game faggot. I don't care if it's vanilla 1993 Doom or not. This has no appearance of being a good game
>>337315316
You do know you need to glory kill enemy to get health? Simple kill won't do.
>>337317462
Good thing both GameCube and PlayStation 2 emulation has been improving the last several months. Thanks for the info.
>>337317464
>This has no appearance of being a good game
Are we talking about the same game? From all gameplay videos they've released so far it looks pretty damn solid.
Also
>game isn't out yet
>calls it shit
I'm just going to buy this game and have fun with it later for less money because I don't have a computer good enough to run it right now :^)
>>337315274
If you can die during killing a monster to get said health, then that surely counts for something besides health being regenerative.
>>337317980
Yep, it's always better to post le funny memeXD than to actually defend your point.
>>337317464
>haste doesn't make you shoot faster
anyone who isn't fucking braindead can notice otherwise.
0/10, made me reply. you should feel ashamed.
>>337317848
>>game isn't out yet
And when it does come out, will you stop using that non-argument, or will you will you move the goalpost and still complain if I don't even play the game and only watch videos.
>>337318180
I'm not even that guy.
>>337317980
This is why underaged shouldn't into analogies.
>>337318314
>actually goes through the effort of screencapping to prove a point
>to a person on the internet
>filename
bad
>>337318326
Seems pretty accurate, ZeniMax is full of shit and ready to lay a steaming one on DOOM's face
>>337318314
>will you will you
also please pass your english exam before replying to this post.
>>337286296
Doom 64 was spooky
>>337318530
literally twelve years old, go look for the ball won't you lol
sad piece of filth
>>337318630
People retype things by accident anon, calm down
>MAN THIS IS SPED UP THE ANIMATIONS HAVE BEEN EDITED
there's a rune that allows for faster glory kills, you fucking shitsmears
if only you could look up info on something before you shitpost, but you're clearly too busy to do so, what with posting ebin memes and animu reaction faces while calling people shills for proving you wrong
>click on gameplay video
>obviously sped up, animations and volume are high-pitched and Doomguy stops on a dime
>look at replies
>"oh em geee /v/ preordered right now LITERALLY saving FPS looks super duper fun!"
Is this the point where we can say /v/ is dead
>>337318314
Nah, I will probably stop browsing doomthreads and just play the game. But regarding your point, there are literally zero indications that new Doom is going to suck, at least not in the videos I've seen so far. What the fuck does /v/ want from it is beyond me, but it actually looks good, especially on that one hour stream they did a couple of weeks ago.
The only concerns I have are amount of enemies and already planned dlcs.
>>337319009
just blameSummerlike all the newfags :^)
>>337317423
The player movement was no different though.
PSX Doom had some monsters slowed down but Doom 64 monsters behave the same as PC version.
>deal less damage
Some monsters are BIGGER assholes in those versions, especially 64, such as Lost Souls which have less health but are also way more aggressive as a tradeoff, and Pain Elementals and Arachnotrons that fire 2 instead of 1 of their respective projectiles
>>337318928
>damage control
>>337318996
>glory kills are the only animations in the game
Fucking mongrel
>>337318215
It takes one and a half seconds to get from the platform in 2:25 to the power-up in 2:26. It takes the same amount of time to immediately turn around and jump back from 2:26 to 2:27.
>>337318527
>Complains about an anon not proving his point.
>Complains about an anon taking the time to prove his point
LOL
>>337318630
>Fails to capitalize his sentence and the word English.
>...please pass your english exam...
Stop it, you guys are making me laugh too hard.
>>337319026
>Nah, I will probably stop browsing doomthreads and just play the game
Well, at least you're better than some of these other posters. Have a cuddly cacodemon.
>>337319149
I'm not him but you won't believe me, just thought you were being a huge faggot
>>337319142
Pain Elemental lost souls also deal splash damage now so you can't body block them like you could in the PC version
>>337319152
>B-BUT WEAPON MODS AND WEAPON SWITCH SPEEDS ARE FASTER TOO THAT MEANS IT'S EDITED
again, there's a rune for that
you gonna keep on throwing a kiddie shitfit or are you going to pick up what you did? lmao
>>337319137
5 fake dollars
>>337319270
>>337319142
>Lost Souls which have less health but are also way more aggressive
>Pain Elementals and Arachnotrons that fire 2 instead of 1 of their respective projectiles
>Pain Elemental lost souls also deal splash damage now so you can't body block them like you could in the PC versionYou say the console versions are not much more of a horror game but these are fucking scary
>>337319336
not him, but how many fucking runes are in the game?
I doubt that they would have that many runes for speed
>People will buy this over Shadow Warrior 2
>>337319240
this whole post is more than enough to diagnose a mental sickness. You might be schizophrenic my man.
>>337319479
>procedurally generated levels
Fuck off, you're no better
>>337319336
The doors?
The enemies?
Also the fact that the volume is pitched up and Doomguys looks like he is stuttering when he stops?
Or the fact nvidya speeds up their game footage?
>>337319240
shut the fuck up
god you sound like a total faggot
>>337319547
>what is uncapped framerate
you can stop now lol
>>337319727
>m-muh framerate
Just reach a little further and I can guarantee you will get a good grasp on those straws
>>337319479
>three people will buy the blundering disgrace that is Shadow Warrior 2 because they unironically liked the amalgamation of shit and ass that was the first game
>nobody outside an enclosed group of losers are looking forward to Unreal Tournament 4
>people are actually looking forward to John Romero's shit hack game
>or what we know of it anyways
>people will buy STRAFE(R)
JUST
>>337319479
I want some proper Blood and Duke Nukem sequels
>>337319957
>>nobody outside an enclosed group of losers are looking forward to Unreal Tournament 4
Don't remind me.
>>337319820
>says when he can't come to grips on a person's explanation on why somethings appear sped up
>'muh'
anytime now lol
>>337319479
>I'll personally take shit over piss, thank you very much, lowly plebeians
>>337319727
>uncapped framerate
Doesn't make things look faster, it makes them look smoother,
>>337320116
>trust me the reason the game looks unnaturally fast is because of my frame rate even though frame rate gives of only slight differences
How much is Bethesda paying you to shitpost online
>>337319957
>nobody outside an enclosed group of losers are looking forward to Unreal Tournament 4
Fuck you my mom says I'm a winner
>>337319990
>Blood sequel
This.
>play as a deader
>kill other deaders and cultist fanatics
>original weaponry
>based art direction
Damn blood was amazing
So is this how Moot2 is paying the server bills now? Native advertising?
9/10 D44M threads are obvious marketposts, filled with marketposters. Advertising is against the rules, but only if you aren't paid up I guess.
>>337284874
While I'm not sure how to feel about the speed being behind an upgrade wall, I'm still just happy to see it's therestill wish the executions were more than just "punch, punch it again
>>337320329
>tfw the source code will never be released
>>337319990
>>337320329
This
>Yfw Gearbox has the rights to the Duke Nukem franchise.
>Yfw Duke will spout off Anthony Burch-tier lines
>>337320590
I think they somehow got Duke to say Bazinga.
>>337320280
About two dollars higher than what the school bully took from you at recess, spoiled child.
>>337320641
>spoiled child
lol yeah guess i'm entitled for wanting good games lmao
>>337320635
They did. I'm still pissed.
>>337320679
>gets called a child
>acts just like one
uh oh. Please don't call mommy on me, she might call me a marketer.
>>337284825
Guys remember to use g2a to get it for $30
>>337320635
"its time to chew off you head and shit down your ass" - dude nu kum
>increase the fov
>wow! why is it so fast!?
you're retarded
>>337320635
>>337320745
NO
YOU FUCKING LIE
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN
>>337321034
>PC controls
try harder to get people to hate the game
>>337321050
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/8340-the-duke-nukem-forum-on-gearbox/page__st__510__p__245702#entry245702
Read this. This is the same guy Gearbox is trying to bully into giving up on EDuke32.
>>337321195
I have no words.
>>337319957
What people describe as 'old school shooters' went the way of stop motion animation.
It's nice, and fun, but don't ever expect to see it even remotely in the mainstream ever again.
>>337321195
Jesus Christ
>there's still eight hours until it unlocks at the earliest
fuck
>>337314012
Original Doomguy was fast. Everything else was slow, even on Nightmare.
>>337321571
>>337321259
>>337321195
This makes me even happier that Battleborn is flopping so hard.
>>337321168
>controls effect game speed
You cannot be this fucking retarded holy shit
>>337321168
>try harder to get people to hate the game
what are you even talking about? i said anyone who thinks this version is somehow faster is retarded when it's just increased fov, and yes, controlling a console game with a keyboard/mouse which means it's piss easy.
>>337321898
This.
There isn't a single game company I hate more than Gearbox. Not EA, not Activision, not Ubisoft or Capcom or Microsoft or anyone else. Watching Battleborn flop has been so satisfying.
>>337322154
I hate EA, Gearbox and Ubisoft pretty equally. They are all shitty and terrible companies.
>>337322154
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on EA, they have brutally murdered many near and dear things.
>>337306008
John Romero is a fucking hack atm
>>337322381
Duke and Homeworld matter more to me than anything and everything EA has touched.
>>337322470
>atm
Since like the late 90s dude.
>>337322470
You can't prove him wrong on that point though.
>>337284825
Soundtrack is good though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqQHKPtADEU
>>337322074
>controls don't affect the illusion of the game being faster
you tripped over.
>>337306008
>They'll never make another decent Doom without anybody from the original team
ftfy
>>337322074
except they do you fucking shitflinging monkey
>>337322758
Garbage metal.
>>337304745
i think its legit but remember the last batman game? they speed up the footage 2x to make it seem 60 fps, you can even hear the chipmunk voices
>>337322829
Technically they have people from the original team still working there. Tim Willits and Kevin Cloud. Both were very minor roles though and in Cloud's case, would have hurt Doom if he had more input that he did. (see >>337313180)
>>337322758
The guitar sounds a little obnoxious to me, but I kind of like the parts around 0:29.
>>337312127
ackhually the doom guy never set foot on mars in doom three because he stayed in hell after 64
better fps than overwatch
bye thread!
>>337284874
looks sick
>>337286296
Spot on mate got it yesterday doom is over 20 years old can't wait for everyone to turn on another game because doom is excellent u can also make and play maps and upload for other players fucking crying cunts dont play it go and jerk off to a rpg with kittens u tits
>This gameplay is from a PC running Vulkan on a Titan X at 120 FOV - with the player's personal upgrades and rune perks set for advanced speed and movement capabilities.
>>337326878
SHUT THE FUCK UP IT'S EDITED
Looks pretty smooth, hopefully I can play it above 144 fps
>>337284874
>you can actually influence your direction in the air now
Well I'll be damned, they actually fixed one of the problems in the open beta.
>>337306197
While it's true you can't credit only one guy, people do matter a lot and there's strong evidence that when you change a small group of key people you get completely different games.
See Diablo 3 for exemple
Brutal Doom
>Enemies are faster and behave differently
>Slow annoying glory kills
>"Br00tal Dumb sucks it's not vanilla and it's too fast"
Doom 2016
>Enemies are faster and behave differently
>Glory kills are really quick
>"Dumb 4 is so fucking slow, if you buy this you're a faggot and I hate Bethesda"
Make up your minds you autistic fucks
>>337297778
Nigger
>>337327819
it's an upgrade you unlock iirc. they said it in a livestream a couple weeks ago
>>337284874
Is it ok to get this now?
I'm kinda torn between it andDark Souls 3
One last bump
>Paying full price for Doom
>>337302828
Bethesda's marketing team have been all over the place lately, after they did such a great job with Fallout 4 too. Maybe they just don't know how to market Doom properly.
>>337284874
At least it feels way better than every other gameplay video I've seen.
I actually would like to give it a try, but I think my Radeon hd 5770 won't agree.
looks bad todd
>>337332495
>todd
Retard
>Never really gave a fuck about Doom/Quake
>Quake 4 was fucking ridiculous and gruesome simultaneously
>Will never forget Stroggification assembly line
>Doom SNES made me fucking motion sick
>Probably the only person I know of who dug the fuck out of that movie Karl Urban & Dwayne did years back, with the fuckface director who took way too much artistic license
>This feels like they wanted to take the Badass FPS Sequence from the movie and expand it into a full length game
>With a heaping dose of world-building lore crafting included
I'd buy it, but I couldn't find the time to sit down and play it.
I hope to hell someone documents all the world lore items early on a wiki. Shit should be a neat read. Fucking love when they try to explain demonology and shit. (Constantine, Blade to an extent)
>>337284874
Still looks like, empty, boring, uninspired garbage. I hope all of you fuckers off yourselves.
>>33733542
>empty
What?
>>337306167
>Mancubus is still kinda retarded and easy.
Mancubus has always been ez.
>>337319990
Just imagine some faggot making a Blood sequel true to the original in 2017 out of nowhere, PC exclusive with incredible graphics fidelity, along with the original voice actor on board. I'd cum happy rainbows.
>>337284825
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqQHKPtADEU
I like it. I feel like you could play this game meditatively, get into a weird ultra-violent satanic oneness
With all this debate about speed, you'd think this is a new fucking sonic game
>>337284874
NOW it looks fun, Im actually interested, the multiplayer was slow as fuck, it was like a Halo reskin. That said, this is probably a singleplayer upgrade and not in any way the standard play option, meaning everything that isnt the singleplayer is still going to be slow shite, and even then the singleplayer is going to be slow till you get the upgrade.
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