New DOOM pc gameplay
Thoughts?
Forgot link
https://youtu.be/anrvBD4aTGY
>>337284825
Ive had the game for two days already. The Walmart in my area put copies out waaay early for some reason.
The game is very fun. Its about as different from DOOM 3 as it can be. I played the first level and hated it. Then I played the second level and figured out what they were going for.
Its not a horror game, its supposed to make you feel like a fucking badass. And it does. But /v/ will hate it. There is a lot of modern FPS influence in it.
>>337284874
already bought the game...
1- obvious shill video, and shill post
2- Gfx look amazing
3- Why is this shill playing like an idiot switching weapons every time he fires with a weapon for 4 seconds?
>>337285398
So what you're saying is, it's not Doom, but it's still fun?
>>337285398
>Its not a horror game
Why is this even a point that you're making?
>>337285398
Who the fuck thinks of Doom as a horror except for ID during Doom 3 development and Midway Games
>>337285569
Why do you type like an underage faggot?
>>337285723
>id makes game
>its called doom
>specifically says its doom and on mars, demons are invading.
this isnt doom its not like the one i played in 1993, i aint buying it.
thats what you cucks sound like
>>337285918
>sharing the same name and setting are enough to be a good game, just fucking buy the game you fuck don't you like the brand
>>337284825
>>337284874
>Doomguy moves fast but stops on a dime
Looks like there's no momentum. OG Doom had momentum to it, if you stopped, Doomguy would slide for a second (Explosions would also propel dead monsters, who would slide for a long while, sometimes even up stairs)
>>337284874
Yup. Still looks like its gonna be fun.
>>337285737
A lot of people thought DOOM 3 was scary. I dont think anyone has ever said that about DOOM 1 or 2.
>>337285723
More or less. It has modern FPS stink all over it. BUT - here's where the game is really shining and reminding me of the old DOOM games:
1. The new DOOM really really encourages map exploration. There are little hidden nooks everywhere.
2. The game makes you feel like a fucking badass while still making you conserve ammo.
3. The fights are very fast-paced
>>337285918
Akchually, first 2 Dooms don't take place on Mars
>>337284874
Looks pretty damn sweet
>>337284874
wow, solo is faster than multiplayer, it looks fun
>>337284874
Why does this look so much faster than every other gameplay they've shown? The movement speed and weapon switching speed is dramatically faster.
Is this a setting? Or just his upgrades?
>>337285904
i am catering for retards like you
>>337287509
>Why does this look so much faster than every other gameplay they've shown?
They were running on PS4 and gamepads.
>>337284874
>fucking linear hallways and choke points where you have to fight X number of demons to open a door
>>337284874
I can't get over all the faggots on /v/ saying this looked slow. It's anything but.
>>337287553
So you become a faggot to cater to retards?
you suck retarded people cocks like your mother? you life sucks
>>337287509
High likelihood they increases movement speed to make the game look more interesting. Sure as hell doesn't move this fast in the PS4 retail copies
>>337289221
It isn't this that looks slow. It's the leaked retail copy footage that looks slow, which is a lot more believable than something designed to help sell the game
it's very linear. And i hated the instakills, that's the least doom thing ever
>>337289963
There's leaked retail copy footage that looks just as fast minus the precision/spastic playstyle of the guy on PC. I'm sure it's all a conspiracy, though.
>>337287509
Because he's playing on PC in this videop
>>337290392
But that doesn't make any sense
It's not like they made completely differently designed versions of the game between PC and consoles
Looks good
>>337290550
Try playing Doom on a controller, like the Xbox version, then play it on PC.
>>337289221
Haha can I get an amen fellow gamer? Those retarded idiots over on the /v/ sure were faggoty huh? This game looks definitely worth $60 USD AT LEAST. I for one am going to preorder the special edition after seeing this amazing video!!!
>>337290663
I won't pay 60 for it but it's still not slow you anal vomit spewing retard.
PS4 gameplay, still looking fast.
http://sendvid.com/nf4elkfm
>>337284825
>Thinking this casual shitfest is fast.
It's slow as fuck. This is doom, educate yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNGvoXKiIWg
>>337291424
Literally looks the same
>>337287553
>I'm only being retarded because you're retarded
Jesus Christ, faggot. Come on.
Looks like they made it "fast" just for the sake of it.
Like yeah, your character moves fast but in relation to how the enemies move and how many enemies there are in each level section at once it just looks unnecessary for the kind of game they made.
>>337291424
Even after watching some of this what OP posted is still fast. Even if you dont like the game you cant deny that
>>337290854
fuck off shill, it still looks like horse shit
>>337285808
i thought doom 64 was scary when i was a kid
>>337284874
>random jumping around and switching weapons like a spaz to make it look faster
>can't hide the fact that there's a very small amount of enemies
>can't hide the obvious monster arenas that plague every modern "retro" shooter
Fuck even shado warrior reboot has more monsters per arena right from the start
>>337287509
Remember the last time a video game trailer seemed "way too smooth and fast"?
Turned out they had played it at slow fps and then made it play faster.
That shitfest was called BamHam.
And they still havent fixed it.
>>337291769
Doom64 made me never want to touch doom.
i was 6 at the time
>>337291524
>>337291757
Are you fucking blind? How can anyone think nudoom looks fast is beyond me. Just go play your consolized piece of trash cinematic "game" or even better just kill yourselves shills.
>>337292420
It looks fast
>>337292420
You need to find meaning in your life if you're telling people to kill themselves over a fucking game. If you watched the same video I did and somehow think thats slow even though at times the player is going just as fast as there you're the one who's blind. Enjoy "games" you like, you don't need to try so hard to fit in. No one is taking away the original, you're asshurt over nothing.
>>337284874
I like how fast it is but the enemies look sooo easy. The Mancubus in Doom 2 was a significantly more deadly enemy than this. And just look at what happens when you get close to one in SS3 whereas here it might literally do nothing.
>>337293015
I think he's playing on the easiest difficulty
>>337293163
I want to play it on Nightmare right away but its locked off. Kinda lame to force two playthroughs for the hardest setting.
>>337292493
>>337292765
Thing is that video is a dev's reveal. The game has been leaked and it's even slower than the video in the op. And it was already pretty damn slow. Also you need to find meaning in your life if all you do is shill a generic garbage video game for 2 bucks a post. Get a real job faggot.
>>337293565
>Thing is that video a dev reveal
No it's not
>>337291765
You miserable fucks are so easy to trigger.
>>337293565
So discussing a game you dont like is shilling somehow? You are fucking insane for real and flat out denying reality if you think people dont want to talk about recent releases. No matter what they are there are people with different opinions than yours and you've been so conditioned by this website that your only response is
>SHILL
>ITS SHIT
>GENERIC
>KILL YOURSELF
You're the type of user that actively ruins discussion and makes the board a worse place.
Unless you have evidence to prove it's a "dev's reveal" then I will continue to think its exclusive gameplay from Nvidia to promote their new card, which is what it is. There are speed upgrades in the game that you can prioritize over other upgrades. If it comes out and its true this speed is impossible I will eat my words.
>>337285569
>3- Why is this shill playing like an idiot switching weapons every time he fires with a weapon for 4 seconds?
To make it seem like there's way more fast paced action going on than there really is.
>>337288409
>>337290167
I saw branching paths, the guy just didn't take them. Also, this is an early level. That hell level we saw was much more complex.
>>337284874
So this is the power of PC.
>>337291424
>posting final doom over doom 1
>>337286309
>"Shores of Hell"
The only good thing out of this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ErnpxTFUr4
>>337293970
Thing is, you are literally paid to shill this here. I'm not ruining any discussion here because everyone that isn't paid to shill this game don't like it. All I want is for you to fuck off. Go shill this trash on facebook or something.
Did anyone by any chance happen to save the video that showed the ending?
>>337291424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUBUYWIZUpE
>>337284874
Graphics look fine as hell. I also like how fast it is. Too bad I won't be able to get it since I don't have any 8th gen console or a high-end PC.
>>337291424
>This is a tool-assisted speedrun.
>>337284874
This is about 1.5x the speed of the demo shown at the nvidia conference
Holy shit I hope it's real
> All these armchair devs in this thread
y'all some salty nerds
>>337293015
>>337289221
>>337287509
>>337286775
>>337286143
>>337284874
The video speed is sped up you stupid underage fucks. Probably to avoid being easily detected by Jewtube and taken down.
Pay attention to the sound effects and especially the voices.
>>337296276
>being this retarded
>>337296276
Here's the (you) you want.
Wow, this Doom™ game looks very great and epic! I've already reserved 5 preorders at least for this $60 gem of a video game, which is being published by Bethesda™, a video game that no doubt has great talent there!
Fellow gamers, you've preordered this next Citizen Kane right? I mean, think of what your children would say if they found out you didn't buy this wonderful masterpiece that will only go up in value as the years go by.
>>337294085
this
his health was at max hp for most of the video. i wonder if the AI is really good enough to warrant all that movement...
>>337295887
Yes of course. The speedrunners are completely godlike fast. But I wanted to show how fast the game can be even if you kill every enemy and get all secrets.
>>337291424
Do you play on speedrun-tier difficulty to go that fast too? Idiot.
Look, we all know you run faster in DOOM than D44M, but that doesn't make D44M not fast.
>>337296372
>>337296506
Fuck off idiots. Watch it again.
>>337296557
At least it looks better than that turd Fallout 4. That was literal shit, am I right my mysterious mustachioed friend?
>>337297778
>being THIS retarded
How is the xbone version though?
>>337292284
you mean, an insufferably large amount of piss easy lowly monsters you could take off with your basic weapon and a setting and style that resembled Shadow Warrior never?
Fuck off with your 'underrated gem' meme, that game is right up the shitter with both UT4 and RoTT '13 for butthurt losers who can't recognize this game plays and looks infinitely better in every regard.
>>337299712
never said sw was good m8.
im sayimg even that shit looks good compared to d44m
>>337300543
>hamfisted 'story' and plot points that lead nowhere
>retarded tacked on muh spirits
>progression system no one asked for
>levels infinitely more linear than in this shit
>the game looks fucking nothing like the original
it's on par with what lays in my toilet as I type this lol
>>337300795
>it's on par with what lays in my toilet as I type this lol
agreed. still superior in every way to what new doom has shown so far.
>>337301143
>trying this hard to make a parallel to my undeniable logic
>no counterargument
thanks, that was easy
>>337301338
whatever m8 you don't like sw. I don't like sw either, so i don't see why i should defend it.
>>337294085
>>337292284
the illusion of speed of the game comes not from the weapon switch speeds you stupid shitcunts, it's the maneuverability and accuracy of PC controls, which allow for faster turning and reaction times which make the game feel faster, which fits Doom's playstyle down to a T
You guys are idiots. We're being raided by shills
>>337284874
This video was posted in another thread 4 fucking times and was confirmed by actual leaks of the game taken down by Bethesda to be edited footage.
>>337285398
Someone spammed something like this earlier as well, except it was a post from Reddit
>>337301861
>which fits Doom's playstyle down to a T
Except Doom was actually built around that while this is just doing it for the sake of making the game looking more frantic than it really is. That whole video there was like four demons on screen at once at the most making most of the weapon switching pointless meanwhile in 1 and 2 you had rooms filled to the brim with them making you prioritize which group you need to take out first which would also make you prioritize the weapon most effective on said group.
Out of curiosity, when did the "wanting every game to be trash before it's even out" meme start? TOR, right?
Because this is the most cancer. When your friends are more willing to believe that conspiracy theories are going on then "this game might not actually kill videogames" then there's an issue.
>>337302179
>This video was posted in another thread 4 fucking times and was confirmed by actual leaks of the game taken down by Bethesda to be edited footage
stop this meme you fucking mong
>>337301861
and the reality of it actually being slow comes from
>arenas
>low amount of monsters
>killing cutscenes
>shitty weapons
>movespeed WITH upgrades that's not eve as fast as regular doomguy runspeed without the diagonal movement boost.
>>337286152
>>337286324
>>337286775
>>337289221
>omg this edited footage looks soooooooooooo gooooood
Go shill somewhere else
>>337296372
>>337296506
>gets called out
>ur an redtard
You aren't helping
>>337302357
Don't know about being edited but it's definitely being spammed several times per thread as a
>look guys doom is totes fast!
>>337302387
>edited
It's not edited retard
>>337302357
>he didn't see the leaked videos
>he seriously thinks that edited shit is the actual content
>needing to resort to petty insults to defend your game
Nobody here wants to buy Doom.
>>337302315
>its just a meme guys
>spamming copypasta calling the game good and that you need to pretend its good
>spamming the same edited video 5 times a thread
>copypasting from Reddit for threads
>spamming threads with nothing but "its good" and ad hominem
Yeah guys, no shills here
>>337302386
>low amount of monsters
I own an early copy. You break 300 kills before the end of the second level.
>>337284874
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>>337284825
Looks good. I'm going ot get it.
>>337302525
Prove it, then
>>337288409
The levels are huge and open ended. I've missed a lot of secrets so far because I didn't want to go back through a maze to get to them.
>>337302728
Why do you think it's edited
>>337302636
>I own an early copy. You break 300 kills before the end of the second level.
I won't be like those fags that will automatically disbelieve you but if that is really the case, maybe bethseda marketing department should fucking show videos with more monsters then.
>>337302730
>guys I have the game trust me my dad works for Bethesda
>>337299712
>UT4
So its awesome?
>>337302807
Because it looks faster then the gameplay stream from a few weeks ago, the leak already showed the true gameplay, and the fact its not hard to tell its edited by the way everything moves.
Your a fucking idiot
>>337284874
Is he playing on the lowest difficulty?
>>337302948
>gameplay stream
That was on PS4 retard
>>337302620
>Actually resorting to "I-IT'S EDITED FOOTAGE" when it clearly isn't
>There's an upgrade system and the player actually gets faster as the game goes on, this is a thing
>You are actually more willing to jump to a videogame conspiracy theory that would be completely pointless on Bethesda's part than ever even conceive of the fact that this game might be okay.
I'm salty because /v/'s like REEE make GOOD GAMES but here's a game with open level design, reasonably fast gameplay and people who have played it saying "yeah this kinda reminds me of Seirous Sam"
But you don't want a good videogame, you want an epic meme circlejerk so you can post BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY for three months straight.
10/10 I'm autism-level mad
>>337302830
Games ship on the Wednesday before, retard. Whether it comes out this Friday or next Tuesday, stores have a copy, and I picked one up from someone I know.
Just entered hell, and the action does get rather hectic at times. I've died a couple times on Hurt Me Plenty just from being overrun. You can upgrade your max health, ammo, and armor with collectibles but armor seems to be the best bet for mitigating damage.
>secret found
>literally an open hallway behind 2 stacked boxes
wow
>>337302241
>doom had enemies everywhere
I want this meme to die.
Area control in Doom I/II, especially in the first game, was an extremely banal task to pull off, given how most rooms that happened to swarm the player in monsters were oftentimes a max of four pinkies and basic zombieman and a shotgun /chaingun that tore through them with ease, provided the player had his hands on these. The Super shotgun in Doom II made this an even easier task as it provided the player with the firepower to munch through most basic monsters while higher tier enemies like revenants and mancubi could easily be countered with a modicum of knowing how to dodge projectiles by taking cover, of which there is plenty to be found.
The big difference is that while this game has a supposedly lower enemy count, it makes up for the actual mobile speed of the monsters and their damage output. You can see in the footage just how deadly imps are up close, and how mancubi can easily drop your health from 120 to 30. It's not so much about sheer monster counts, but how they're employed. Doomguy was always faster than the monsters and their projectiles, don't pretend Doom was extremely difficult to play even in this day and age.
>>337302828
They don't want to scare off the casuals. I know people who won't play games that look too "complex".
>>337302940
No, it'sdead.
>>337303164
There are plainly visible secrets in most games with secrets. A few easy to find, some you have to hump walls to get.
I remember finding some secrets that were barely secrets at all in SS3
>>337303164
Early game secrets are pretty lame, but later on the secrets get really stupid to get to. I found one by walking along a ledge of a instant-kill drop then doing a strafe jump with the jet boots behind a blind corner.
>>337303284
I will give it the benefit of the doubt and wait till it's out to confirm how it is. But I'm certainly not gonna pre-order.
>>337303169
>I want this meme to die.
Are you kidding me man? Go replay Doom 2 on Ultra-Violence and say that again with a straight face. The city levels alone prove your retarded statement wrong.
>>337284874
looks nothing like doom
keep shilling, it's gonna sell.
>>337303475
Looks more like doom than doom 3 did
>Mini cutscenemations taking you out of the game EVERY 10 SECONDS
I blame the consumers
>>337303569
>it looks more like doom the literal garbage did
doesn't change a thing
>>337284825
I hope it encourages a resurgence of Doom 1 servers.
>>337303569
just keep shilling the regular way, not tameem way, come on, you can do it.
>>337296276
It actually says in the description that he has all of the speed and movement upgrades.
Personally not happy about RPG elements in the game, I just want fast from the start.
>>337285398
>its supposed to make you feel like a fucking badass.
I want to earn that feeling, not quicktime melee from start to finish. So yeah I probably will hate it.
Why is the level design so horrible?
>>337284874
looks pretty fun will for sure be picking it up
>>337303106
>Actually resorting to "I-IT'S EDITED FOOTAGE" when it clearly isn't
Leaked stream?
Normal PC stream?
The fact that it looks fucking edited?
>you have to upgrade to make the game fast
Why should something that has been a core feature in the game for years be resorted to an upgrade? The speed should be default, not earned through a fucking retarded RPG system. Speed should be a skill that the player can master, not one the player slowly earns. I'm not going to pretend the game is fast or anything like fucking Doom because of this.
>You are actually more willing to jump to a videogame conspiracy theory
>implying copypasting the same video 10 times a thread, spamming posts from Reddit, copypasting paragraphs of why the game is amazing, and despite the fact gameplay has always been out /v/ suddenly going "WOOOOWIE THIS GAME IS GOOING TO BE THE BEST GAME EVR!!!!!" is a conspiracy
>But you don't want a good videogame, you want an epic meme circlejerk
No, I want good video games.
Overwatch? Wolfenstien TNO? Shadow Warrior? Serious Sam 4? Deus Ex Mankind Divided? Hell, fucking Battlefield 1? UT4? Team Fortress 2? CS:GO? Squad? Verdun? Those are all great games, and I respect those for what they are. Hell, I actually enjoyed CoD up to MW2. To say I hate games because I don't like your disgraceful piece of fuck is insulting. Doom is slow, has terrible graphic design, shitty gameplay revolving around cinematic feel good kills, the worst of Halo slammed into MP, stupid RPG mechanics, and an overall lame experience?
And the game isn't out yet, why the hell should I trust someone on an imageboard that out the game before it comes out? Go fuck off to Reddit
>>337303432
>large amounts of corners to hide behind
>revenants and arachnotrons that are rendered moot by being placed in a higher ground and you can hide from
>caged imps facing walls you never go through and therefore never take damage from
>terrible level design and a laughable attempt at an open styled map, makes okay multiplayer map
you can call names all you want, the undeniable truth is how terribly these monsters are used and how easily you can run from scott-free/how easily you can take them out by employing your movement, which is exactly what you're seeing in these videos.
There's no emphasis on shitty gimmicks to make the game 'feel faster' as you so claim, there's only the superiority and flexibility of PC controls which allow for faster gameplay, which was always the case with Doom's console ports over the years.
>>337304060
I'M SUCH A JADED EDGELORD, IVE BEEN ON /V/ FOR YEARS AND YEARS. LURK MOAR FAGET, GB2REDDIT
>>337304060
Where does it look edited?
>>337304060
>And the game isn't out yet
>I cannot grasp the concept of how logistics works
>I do not know how these games arrive in stores
Games are shipped the week prior to release. Since Doom releases on a Friday, it was shipped on that week's Tuesday and received Wednesday.
>>337304060
It's blatantly not edited footage, he has every movement and speed upgrade in the game.
It's pretty fair to say it's lame that you have to get upgrades, but that's just a popular game design choice lately whether you like it or not.
>>337284874
Looks great, now multiply enemies by ten and redesign all the levels.
>>337304060
0/10
>>337304278
>i'm going to ignore everything you said and shitpost!
fuck right off
>>337304327
Okay, so I can just go to my local Gamestop, buy the game before its shelved
>>337304401
>its a popular game design choice
So I guess health regeneration, auto aim, ADS in tight maps, and QTEs are good choices? What, you don't like Call of Dut? Well fuck you, just buy it you entitled shitlord you have no choice.
>>337304258
I just remembered how fucking slow Doom on the XBLA was because of the controls.
The fact of it alone being a 2D horizontal-planed shooter didn't actually help at all, and the controls felt terrible to boot.
>>337304614
>Okay, so I can just go to my local Gamestop
No, they cannot authorize a sale early due to their system. You go to a store that isn't a large, multi-million dollar company and buy it from then.
>>337284874
>official nvidia channel
>it's fucking edited
this is fucking pathetic
>>337304060
>he'll suck off Wolfenstein when it's the same shit
rofl
>>337304745
>it's edited
It's not
>>337304401
>>337304304
>its not edited
Doomguy looks fidgety as fuck, stopping on a dime, and doors and enemies move way to fast.
It looks like a 2x speed increase. And it sure a FUCK isn't an FPS difference to the retard thinking PC and PS4 speed is different
>>337304401
>but that's just a popular game design choice lately whether you like it or not.
I hope you feel stupid after posting that
>>337304614
>health regeneration
not in the game
>auto aim
not in the game
>ADS in tight maps
not in the game
>QTEs are good choices
melee kills aren't even explicitly QTEs and are a)entirely optional and b)quick enough to flow through.
you seriously don't have an argument do you
>>337304745
>wahh its edited
you're my favorite shitposter, anon-kun
>>337304930
>asked where, so I can analyze it in depth myself
>means "its not edited"
Fuck off nigger.
>>337304930
>doors and enemies move way to fast.
this is how I know you're speaking out of your urethra and this is actually the very first footage you've seen of the game.
>>337305056
Are you fucking illeterate.
You said RPG mechanics is okay to have because its a popular game design choice and you need to get used to it.
And I said that by your logic, QTEs and auto aim are good design choices as well
Fucking hell you shills are retarded
>>337305325
not me senpai
Who preordered for half price here?
>>337305253
Yeah, and I gave you places to check out
>>337305274
>no its not lol
>>337284874
This is exactly what I'm looking for from a single player FPS
>>337305398
>implying your key from cdkeys isn't stolen and won't get your steam account banned
>>337305056
now this is a shill post!
>>337284874
It's comical seeing him constantly jump around and switching weapons every shot to give some illusion of difficulty and to make it look like Doom.
Especially when he keeps missing because he tries his hardest to make it look like you need to bunny hop 24/7.
![4cb[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/cQ2T4sZ.png "4cb[2].png")
>>337284874
The movement speed and shooting looks good.
I can't tell the difference between most of the guns, they seem equally as effective with different fire rates.
I like the 'battle for your life in this area' Serious Sam style of encounters.
The enemies don't seem terribly challenging.
There's a little too much "Press X to do something awesome" pauses.
People talking to me on System Shock style tapes is kind of dumb, but I get modern games seem to need some kind of narrative to breath.
I do like health pick-ups, but having armor literally on the (linear) path to every objective seems kind of cheesy.
I appreciate the metal music. It pays homage to the old Doom.
7/10, would pirate and buy if it was very good.
>>337305535
DO NOT DISCUSS NUDOOM
DO NOT PREORDER NUDOOM
DO NOT BUY NUDOOM
DO NOT PIRATE NUDOOM
PLAY ONLY CLASSIC DOOM (NO DOOM3 WHICH IS ALSO NUDOOM)
PROMOTE CLASSIC DOOM BY STREAMING/PLAYING/DISCUSSING IT ON THE RELEASE DAY AND SEVERAL DAYS AFTER OF NUDOOM
>>337305325
>compares optional upgrades to RPG mechanics
case in point
>>337284874
https://youtu.be/_2gQQUjx3j8
>>337295579
You're a fucking idiot. Im not a shill and this conversation is pointless because you're so paranoid and insane that literally nothing I say will convince you otherwise. Nothing I have said indicates that, I shared my opinion on the game and because it wasn't mindless and senseless hate you call me a shill.
>>337305756
>optional upgrades
WHEN THE FUCK HAS AN UPGRADE EVER BEEN "OPTIONAL" IN A GAME
WHEN HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ABLE TO RUN AROUND WITH LVL 1 STATS
And right after you said that if you want speed you have to upgrade.
Go fuck yourself, viral marketer
They'll never make another decent Doom without John Romero
This is a fact
>>337305971
>when have you ever been able to run around with lvl1 stats
it's not that hard in dark souls
it's hard but not HOLY FUCK hard, you just need to be on point with dodges, go raw weapon path
>>337306008
At the same time, I don't trust Romero on his own.
>>337296276
Nvidia sped up Arkham Knight to make it look like 60FPS but they did that so it wouldnt make their precious cards look bad. In this video I dont think its sped up at all, he just has the upgrades. And even in "non sped up" videos the Mancubus is still kinda retarded and easy.
Probably a stupid question but if I buy the physical PC release box, will there be anything inside at all other than a CD key for steam? It's been over a decade since I bought PC games outside of steam and I'm kind of wondering how it works these days
>>337306008
>attributing great games to one designer
stop this meme immediately
with this you get cult of personalities like kojima, megaman guy, gabe newell, and schafer that just end up fucking the consumer in the ass in the end
>>337305676
>making use of PC controls when playing on PC is 'p-pretending it's fast'
>even 'bunny hopping' as he so hard tries to call out as a gimmick is faster than it seems because, again, playing on PC
guess peeing while standing is a cheap gimmick too.
>>337296557
He has nothing to do with bethesda publishing
>>337303164
Yea, Doom and Doom 2 also have a lot of easy secrets as well as hard ones.
>>337306008
>wahhh John Romero isn't making it so it's shit
>when he made Daikatana which placed him in a even lower spot than shit
>wahhh John Carmack isn't on it so it's shit
>when he's mostly known for making up shitty gimmick engines nobody uses and casually tying a game around it as a forethought and not the other way around
I'm sure that'd go just right.
>>337306168
Its a disc but it only makes your Steam download shorter. The full game does not install from the disc like you would think.
>>337306231
You totally missed the point of my post.
I am saying that none of that is necessary. He is doing it to make the game look more difficult than it actually is. He misses so many shots because he jumps around, fires a shot, switch weapons, fires, jumps, switches, fires, and only one of the shots hits.
I don't know if he wants to look cool, or to say "S-See! It is Doom!"
That's some pretty cool artwork
A shame the actual game doesn't look anything like it
>>337303639
Can be disabled if im correct.
>>337306531
>makes your Steam download shorter.
This is what I'm really hoping for anyway
>>337306231
>it's faster
If the controls allow for a faster pace than normal you are still just playing a slow game quickly.
>>337305218
>>337306804
I hear it only goes from 50 to 40 gigs so it may not be worth it
>>337306197
>megaman guy
>>337306914
Inafune. "Megaman guy" is all he'll ever be, anyway.
>>337291424
I look at this and my head hurts, I feel like puking.
>with the player's personal upgrades and rune perks set for advanced speed and movement capabilities
Who am I supposed to believe here?
>Motion Blur can be set to four settings: Low, Medium, High, and Off.
Kind of thankful for this. It allows you to keep some of it without it making it feel like Doomguy is drunk. That being said, the blur effect is actually not too bad by itself normally. It only kicks in during glory kills and when you spin around fast. Having it on Low retains it in glory kills, but turns it off when moving around.
Also, upgrade your ammo capacity as soon as you unlock health/armor/ammo upgrade stations. Chainsaw energy starts at 3 pips, and you need more if you want to kill a Mancubus with it.
>>337284825
...
>>337307290
To build on that, from what I've seen:
Revenants require 3 pips, Mancubi require 5, Hellknights require 3, haven't tried to chainsaw a Baron yet because fuck that, and Summoners (This game's arch-vile" take 3.
>>337307419
What happens if you try to chainsaw an enemy you have insufficient fuel for?
>>337306806
that's some terribly shitfaced logic.
Have you ever tried playing a Doom console port? Hint hint: the controls are shit and your movement is as restricted as you could get, and your reaction times are completely gimped as a result. Guess playing PSX Doom on the original system also counts as playing a slow game quickly.
Go play Doom on the GBA and then come back and tell me with a straight face you can aim for shit.
>>337306602
he misses gauss cannon shots two out of three times, but other than that, his aim is actually not-shit. Plus his hand is all fucking jittery, you can tell he's pumped as shit.
>all this complaining
I'll laugh. I'll fucking laugh when this game sells well, gets good reviews, and /v/ tries to suck its dick like they knew it was gonna be a hit from the beginning. Happens every fucking time with these threads
>>337307486
If you have a chainsaw out and you look at an enemy, even if you aren't right in chainsaw range, it'll saw on your screen: "Insufficent fuel" and will show you the pips you have, with the remaining pips you require being Xed out.
Saw if you tried to chainsaw a Mancubus with only 3 pips, it would show something like:
Insufficient fuel [--- XX]
in red below your crosshair
This is actually the first gameplay I've seen where the game looks good.
The level design looks kind of boring to me though, why not add some pitfalls, acid/lava, maybe more open spaces or something?
>>337307570
>even if the room is filled with three slow enemies, the game is fast if I can jump in a straight line on solid ground and switch weapons three times to kill one
>>337307665
saw = say
Christ, I'm tired.
Mmm hmm, yep. The savior of the DOOM franchise
Maybe playing it at the biggest difficulty with all the speed upgrades will feel like Doom???
>>337307738
>imps move at fucking terminal velocities to claw away at your health for 10/15~ hp each hit
>hell knights, barons and mancubi leap and sprint towards you, even fucking zombiemen run while shooting
>revenants shoot while flying around
sure, slow enemies. Let's leave it at that.
>>337284825
Why do companies need to be dishonest? Why not just make a good game so you don't need to fucking trick people into paying first and regretting later?
>>337308353
Too much effort and passion required, making a shitty game that you can mask is much easier.
>>337308353
Because it's much easier to make a shitty game and sell it to you on lies.
>>337308432
Is it really, though? You gotta go through all the trouble of bribing people, hiring shill marketers to viral shit, and having to keep all your lies consistent until the consumer's money is in your hand
>>337308216
nice strawman post my man
I wonder if all those people bitching about the 'perks' are aware that the only 'speed upgrades' the game has allow you to perform melee kills faster and changing weapon mods faster, which you can even then change to suit your style of play
and that they're completely optional to boot.
>>337308587
Shill marketers are easy to find, passionate designers are few and far between.
>>337308729
> wonder if all those people bitching about the 'perks' are aware that the only 'speed upgrades' the game has allow you to perform melee kills faster and changing weapon mods faster
Didn't you just fucking say perks were the only way to make your game faster
And perks are a shit mechanic,optional or not
>>337308353
>>337308432
>>337308549
stay golden, /v/
>>337308587
no everything is a conspiracy to steal money from you and only /v/ can save you from the jews.
>some people on here actually believe this
>IT'S NOT MUH DOOM
>MUH DOOM NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE SHIT SMEARED ON A SCREEN AND NEEDS TO HAVE LE EPIC FASTNESS LIKE SONIC THE AUTISMHOG
damn, you people really did scare all the good developers away to consoles with these whiny tantrums every time something's new at all.
>>337308353
They spent NINE YEARS making this game, they're desperate to recoup losses and keep their jobs.
theres so much bait in this thread, from both sides of the spectrum, fuck all of you
>>337308865
>Didn't you just fucking say
lol I never said shit other than in that post where I proved your bitching moot
>>337308353
>>337308432
>>337308549
>>337308587
>>337308737
>abloo bloo
>>337308919
>slow, plodding gameplay is "new"
>Halo is "new"
>>337308919
>P-PC gamers r entitled consoles are more friendly!coughCallofDutyInfiniteWarfarecoughcough1milliondislikes
>>337308994
also you guys probably smell like poo irl, lol
>>337309003
>if I imply they are whining, that invalidates their point
Every time a new big name game is coming out it will be vehemently defended by "fans" that seem to disappear after the first three or so days of the game's release. Weird right?
>>337309003
So then the game actually is slow as fuck and their is now way to make it faster.
At least you proved the other shill wrong, but you are probably getting a cut in wage, shill
>>337309005
>i-its slow
>i-its edited
>i-its halo
you're just as stupid as those people you so rightfully try to call out.
>>337286309
I'm pretty sure the first level of Doom 1 is on mars
>>337308898
I never mentioned the Jewz and I never said it was a conspiracy, a conspiracy would imply it is subtle enough to plausibly deny
>>337309157
>it's not slow
>right after you just shitposted super hard about how stupid everyone who wants it to be fast is
Also you don't seem to know what you are actually saying, I think you meant "righteously"
>>337309140
>this delusion
everytime a game gets shat on in this board it unexplicably ends up with a considerable amount of people coming out of the woodwork after its release discussing its stronger/weaker points and then reaching a consensus around it, instead of simply bashing it for whatever made-up reasons you try to hide behind. Now that's bizarre!
>>337308898
But most AAA titles ARE designed to fleece money from you. Or did you already forget the downgrade fest that is this generation?
>>337309157
>I'm not going to refute your point just insult you
Shill tactics 101
>>337309351
And then those people disappear, three days after release. Then we are left with nothing but the facts about the game, and no pithy justifications from strangely determined defenders.
>>337309307
>every person I discuss with is the same
>if I make mention of a single typo it makes me look smarter
thanks for the greentext
>>337309524
That's not a typo, that's using the incorrect word.
>every person I discuss with is the same
Well if you aren't the other guy you just rushed in to defend him while simultaneously not supporting any of his points, good job.
buncha nerds in this thread arguing about games lmao why dont you just play em..
>>337294738
Final Doom has all of the variety of Doom II with better levels. It's superior to Doom in just about every way.
>>337309501
>facts
such as? that a game being played on a console is somehow slower paced than it being played on a PC? because that's the only thing you keep bringing up.
and if people here don't feel like bringing up a game for discussion, it's most obviously because shitposters already have taken the higher ground on it and choose to dismiss any positive points brought up as 'shilling' and basically shit up any sort of discussion on the matter.
>mfw excited for Doom 4 because I'm getting it for free
>>337309916
The game is the same on both platforms, the control scheme simply allows a faster pace for the player on PC. They aren't going to release two versions of the same game on different platforms, the best PC players will get is the chance to play a slow console game with a faster than usual player character.
>>337309769
>calling something names means I have a point
>'lol halo'
I don't have to step in for anyone when everyone as well as I know you're a blatant idiot beforehand
stop trying to hide behind 'y-you didn't prove any of my points wrong' when you had no argument to begin with other than buzzwords
>>337309856
>262.6 kb/s
you're right, that is triggering.also how did you get it already?
>>337304745
whats even better is it's running on vulkan and not dx12 :^)
>>337310190
>the game is slow and bears a striking resemblance to Halo
>FUCKING RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT BUZZWORDS BUZZWORDS YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT
You don't know what a buzzword is.
>>337310067
>Excited for rape because it's free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO90omga8D4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sW7jp0u0PI
>>337310746
>>337310653
>shit I can't stop the tide of negative opinion
>I MUST ATTEMPT TO MARKET MORE DIRECTLY
Earn that paycheck man.
>>337310157
>They aren't going to release two versions of the same game on different platforms.
I did not imply at any point I expected two separate parts of the same game to be sold. I merely mentioned how a game that just so happens to be a first person shooter has a more manageable control scheme and responsiveness with a keyboard and a mouse than you could ever have while playing with a controller, and the illusion of the game being 'slow' is nothing but a fake notion people have because Bethesda just so happened to show off the game on consoles, presumably to show how 'fast paced' it is even withing the threshold of console movement limitations.
It's the equivalent of showing off a new friend who has no idea what Doom is a level being played on the Xbox, with very poor aim and environment awareness, walking all the time and bumping on the walls. Not once will he be under the impression that the game is a fast paced old school FPS at any point. Compare that to how fast you can circlestrafe, dodge, crowd control and turn while playing on PC.
>>337310403
>>the game is slow and bears a striking resemblance to Halo
if only you would have actually said this, and if only you would have an actual argument than just regurging what everyone else says because you have no idea what's wrong about the game because you can't think for yourself
>>337284874
Looks pretty fuckin` baddas senpai
>>337310403
>I GOT CALLED DUMB BY TWO PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET HOLY SHIT AD HOMINEM AD HOMINEM
>>337310936
And compare how slow the enemies still are despite that. Because the game was designed with consoles in mind.
Yes, you can play it quickly, but the game itself can do nothing to match your pace. You would be playing Dark Souls with the player mechanics of blood borne, you would be playing call of duty with the abilities of quake.
>>337311226
Well you certainly aren't making any coherent points still.
>but I don't have to because you are just so obviously wrong
why even bother discussing video games at all here? if you don't shit in your hand and throw it at new games like the frothing, raving chimps that post here, you're accused of advertising for them and will get millions of shitposters here all uniting together to send you out caked in 7 inches of feces.
>>337311356
you really want to have the last word, don't you
>>337311596
Says the person who can't stop replying
>>337311356
>>337311596
get a fucking room you two
Just came to this thread, what a bunch of faggots.
>>337311686
Fuck you we're doing it in the road.
>>337311558
why are you here? Just drop in for le funny meme pictures?
>>337311652
Straight up shit flinging monkeys.
>>337311819
>stop talking bad about this game, you just hate it because you want to hate it
Maybe a lot of people are genuinely dissappointed with what they have been shown? Maybe consumers don't have to buy every piece of media being marketed to them?
But no if you complain about something you are just a shitflinging monkey.
>>337311558
I hope it bombs, marketer-san
>>337295201
Shores of Hell is Deimos, fucknuckle. Phobos > Deimos > Hell > Earth >Hell again. Doom one and two. No Mars.
Mars isn't walked on by Doomguy until Doom 3.
Doubt you played through the originals.
I bought DOOM 2 days ago for the ps4, game's actually really fast.
>>337312221
>fast by console FPS standards
>>337309164
You trolling? It's Phobos.
Reminder that an officially console exclusive part horror DOOM game is more faithful than this
>>337311259
you'd have a point if the player didn't come to a halting stop when he reached 10 hp in the footage, twice.
also, your qualm against monsters being slow is nonsense. If anything, they're faster and more interactive with their surroundings than they ever were, and that's not just speaking for lower tier monsters alone. There were instances in the PC footage where the player would get pelted with fireballs that are even faster than in Classic Doom, that alone is on par with the classic nightmare difficulty, where enemies would deal more damage and be more active in general. If you would have seen some of the footage of people playing on consoles that were released a couple of days ago, you'd have seen they're having a shit time playing it. They die literally as soon as they stand in a corner as a mancubus would shoot at them and wreck them, or have a hell knight peek through with the same results.
>Because the game was designed with consoles in mind.
This is an understatement. The game's combat pace was at large designed in a way so that console players could still get a hold of it while still being faster than other modern titles, but this by no means shows PC players are condemned to suffer for it. Not only does ID think ahead of the PC community to provide advanced graphical options, but they thought of how movement and fluidity would affect the feel of the game, regardless of their platform focus. The footage shown here is solid proof of this.
Shadow Warrior '13 too was designed with console controls in mind, does that make it an inherently bad game to play regardless of your platform of choice?
