Dark Souls 3 Invasions
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You fuckers lied to me.
>Straight swords are the only viable weapons
>Estoc is bestoc
>Pyromancy is shit, has no damage
Then I see a fucking Eleven murdering ganksquads with Pyromancy.
What the fuck. /v/ is shit in this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylIXhcVAP08
Pyromancy is pretty good. Also invasion story thread?
Just had one of my best ones yet.
Currently running a magic orientated jack of all trades build, got flash sword, heavy soul arrow and a heal miracle equiped. Also a raw estoc as a back up, even though I try to stick with magic. Got a bow and firebombs as well, going for a more ranged aproach.
>Invade world in cleansing chappel
>Blue instantly gets summoned
>Cool stray demon cosplay, but he didn't manage to dodge my soul arrows weirdly enough
>He gets hit by a stray graveyard zombie thing
>Head towards the chappel to find the host
>See a yellow in the distance scouting for me
>Hear another phantom entering, ends up being a purple
>Enter the chapel, imiddiatly get attack in the back by the host and a gold phantom
>purple backs me up, fucking A
>massive brawl, hitting a TON with soul arrows, phantoms have no idea what they're doing
>host his hanging back spamming magic as well, misses everything.
>Host also desperatly trying to summon more phantoms and failing
>Manage to hit one phantom twice in a row, go in for the kill and get it
>Other phantom goes down quickly as well by my hand
>me and purple have a stand off, we both know this guy is toast either way
>trying to figure out if I have to kill the purple too or if we team up on the gankhost
>Host bails, and sprints out of the church
>Me and purple break standoff, and hunt the fucker down
>manage to shoot the host off the ladder shortcut with some soul arrows while purple chases him
Was pretty neato.
>Invading great belfry
>see host and 2 white phantoms
>do the usual wave and 15 seconds of prep
>white phantoms just stop and lay down
>do the same, Dark sword host is clearly confused
>Host pointing at phantoms towards me, white phantoms clearly not giving a shit.
>they let me 1v1 the host, spectating and cheering as I do.
>kill him and we all clap afterwords
Its those little moments.
>>337247358
Had this earlier as well.
I was assisting some guy through the cathedral outsides when we got invaded by some cheeky fucker named JOHN CENA.
He waited for us to kill the ninja skellington, the host immiddiatly bumrushed him during the invaders clapping emote, expecting me to follow.
Instead I just did a patches squat on the sidelines. Have a little respect will ya. Host got rekt pretty hard even after using estus at least twice.
>>337248145
How about you do your fucking job, which is murdering anything that even might pose a threat to the host? Putting down a summon sign means "I'm here to fuck things for you, fairly or unfairly", not "Lol you gotta duel him git gud!!!!".
If you're some faggot that wants "muh honorable PvP", then there is a Red Soapsign for you, and THAT'S IT. The normal soapsign is for ganking, all covenants are for ganking, and invasions are for being ganked.
As a side note - it's so satisfying to black crystal phantoms that don't help gangbang invaders. Just get rid of them right before the fog wall, and laugh.
I invaded in the settlement yesterday at the same time with another red, then in came a blueberry and we had a nice pair of duels with me beating the blue and host beating the other red. Then I dueled with the host and won. It was really fun.
Is there anyway to make a blue blood sword type build from DeS utilizing a light weapon spell? That build was GOAT.
Straight Swords are predictable. I had more trouble against pure casters and str builds who can one shot pvpers.
>>337248824
Well, someone got fucked in the ass by an Invader while his phantoms watched
>>337249113
I think Anri's sword scales with luck and you can use Carthus Flame for weapon buff I suppose
>>337245406
>he doesn't play as Jesus F. Christ himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yncVjQbAI9k
>Warden twinblades + Avelyn
Time to have some fun. Leonhard set looks pretty nice too.
Also the game is ng+++++ currently so that's why I've got so much energy and not much hp
>>337249878
>so much
That's not even standard amounts.
>>337248824
>actually liking ganksquads
Spotted the Dark sword user.
>>337246958
>invade a world
>there's a grapist there too
>kill the hosts phantom and then go on a tour of anor londo.
>>337249997
There character is lvl 95 so it's disproportionate amount
>>337250132
You seem to have less than 30 vigor (which is when your health bar goes beyond half of your screen in length). 33-40 is the standard for PvP.
>>337245406
He is good, but at the same time, everyone knows GCFO is OP as FUCK. None of the magic spells pyro has compare to its effienency and use. Sorcery just doesn't have any spell as good period. Even as a mage I had to use GCFOrb to kill bosses cause my regular magic just wasn't hitting as hard, was slower to cast AND consumed more FP.
>>337250321
>vigor
>when the guy is talking about having "so much" stamina
>>337250472
Oh.
Oh I see. I just woke up. Nevermind me.
>>337248824
>The normal soapsign is for ganking, all covenants are for ganking, and invasions are for being ganked.
>How about you do your fucking job
lol make me queermo
>>337248824
You sound mighty butthurt, maybe got killed in pvp once too many?
I'll help you get trough the level, but I'm not here to be your little bitch. I still have my own will, and if you're doing shit I disagree with or find stupid the consequences are on you.
Don't really care if you black crystal me out btw, enjoy getting rekt by the boss you nancy boy.
>>337249190
Str builds catch most players off guard, my first character carried around a greataxe. I've one shot many cocky invaders with the l2r2 wombo combo. You can see it coming from a mile away and if you still get hit you deserve it.
>>337250109
Hah, he could've been better off just standing his ground and hoping the purple gets crazy ideas. Thank god my chase involved homing projectiles and a pissed off grape with a halberd so it was over quickly.
>>337245406
Most people on /v/ suck, so of course they're going to whine endlessly about straight swords and rapiers.
That's not to say that they aren't OP as fuck, because they are, but they aren't the only viable weapons. I also highly doubt that anyone has even played around with magic a lot and mostly just repeat that it's shit due to hearsay. Only a few select pyromancies and sorceries are shit along with most offensive miracles.
That Japanese dude is really awesome because it looks like he has had a lot of practice aiming those Chaos Fire Orbs, which are perfect for dealing with ganksquads because of the lava they leave behind.
>mfw summoning and butchering the cheeky cunts who put down red sunbro and meme maker signs to trick casuals in the kiln
Fuck outta here
>>337245406
I've murdered gank squads with pharis's bow, doesn't make it not shit.
Those guys in the video don't punish his casts and move predictably. I was literally cringing, fucking anything would be viable against some of the brainless retards he played against.
Enjoy the estoc while it lasts. Poise will be enabled in the next update
>>337251390
That sucks, estoc fags are always a free parry.
>>337251390
No it's not. People got used to it already.
>>337251390
It will?
I suppose they wanted to balance weapons by damage and poise and wanted numbers from players
Who said pyromancy is Shit? Pyromancy does tons of damage it just sucks 1 on 1. Also magic does broken damage as well And regularly 1 shots people at 120. Just again it pretty much sucks for 1v1
You know shit is fucked when R1 spamming continues to be the only viable way to play PvP.
Knowing that From will probably never fix poise, the very least they could do is increase stamina usage for each repeated swing in one hand. It would cut the spamming by a few hits and make the game somewhat fun again.
>>337250321
>33-40
Jesus Christ how casual are you fucking faggots? You don't need more than 27 on absolutely any build.
>>337249113
Yes.
>start as Cleric
>kill uchigatana man
>kill Emma
>go back to the entrance to Vordt's boss room and summon uchigatana man
>take him to the Dancer boss room and initiate the fight
>let him die, then quit/reload
>summon him again
>let him kill dancer for you
>run around Lothric Castle early and loot the Lothric Divine Tome
>go back to the High Wall, loot the Astora Straight Sword, make it Raw
>kill Vordt
>get 10 DEX
>get the Mortician's Ashes
>give the ashes to the handmaiden
>purchase the key that she sells
>free Irina
>purchase Blessed Weapon from Irina
>go to the Path of Sacrifices
>kill Anri as soon as you see her
>loot her Straight Sword
>pump VIG, END, and LCK and watch as your sword demolishes everything
Alternatively, you can just use the Astora Straight Sword until you complete Anri's or Yuria's questline. Either one will net you the sword eventually. You could also skip the Lothric Castle looting and just get the base stats for Carthus Flame Arc or Great Magic Weapon. Hell, you could even use resins. Whatever works best for you.
Also, is it just me or does DAS2/Sotfs feel a bit more tactical regarding pvp? DAS 3 is like whoever gets the first R1 combo and stun locks win or the estus spam. DAS 2 has the I-frames for rolls and backstep counters, estus is easily punishable and poise/heavy armor feels retry balanced
I wanna try a new build. Most likely I'll try that Pyro stuff that Japanese guy is doing, even though for sure I can't free cast aim for shit.
Whatever. If I get lucky I'll just say it's skill.
>Back near launch of the game
>Be a Sunbro and put my summon sign near where you meet your beef jerky wife/husband
>Get summoned and the host takes me to where the Black Knight is
>I do all the work and he black crystals me after
And that's how I ended up invading more than sunbroing.
>>337245406
Funny, I fear the great weapons more since you can't parry their regular R1s or R2s when they're two handed.
I've been waiting for a Fashion Souls thread.
>>337245406
> pyromancy flame in left hand
> thrall axe in right hand
> two hand the pyromancy flame
> sacred flame
There you go, one shoting most people up to sl80 and without having more than 8 in fai and int
>>337252140
Depends on what soul level you're fighting. I'm invading at level 43 now with not very powerful weapons, and taking someone down takes quite a lot of hits. dodging and blocking is pretty prominent at this soul level.
Estus is way to easy to use though I agree.
>>337251784
>either will net you the sword eventually
I've done the wedding and just need to kill the final boss and have yet to obtain anri's sword. how am I supposed to get it?
>>337252376
Those threads are dumb
>>337252140
The estus chugging, guaranteed 2 hits with any weapon, extremely retarded and ridiculous i-frame abuse, how little stamina everything but super heavy weapons use, lack of poise and terrible netcode make this the worse souls PvP yet.
>>337251627
> R1 spamming is the only viable way to play PvP.
well that's just fucking wrong.
How do I make a good faith build?
>>337252691
Put points in faith
>>337251627
>R1 spamming
Ay yo hol up, let me just press the parry button and laugh at you. Maybe ropebomb abit too.
>>337252691
no such thing as a faith build, unless you mean going to 30 faith for heals and buffs.
If you hit every fucking fireballs you deserve to win period
>>337252509
I haven't bothered doing the Usurpation ending yet, but I've been told you find it near Anri's corpse after you initiate the face-stabbing and reload the area.
In Anri's ending, you get the sword by talking to Ludleth after helping Anri defeat Aldrich.
>>337251718
>27
Most strength/INT builds literally kill you in one hit.
>>337251627
>You know shit is fucked when R1 spamming continues to be the only viable way to play PvP.
I've seen R1 spammers getting mad and complaining that people are able to get out after 2 hits of their attack. They said that they shouldn't be able to move.
>>337252781
>no such thing as a faith build
Elaborate
these things literally dont exist
>>337251718
Enjoy getting one shot by a hornet ring boosted riposte. 27 vigor is acceptable for levels around 60-80, but keeping at 27 around SL 100-120 is foolish.
>>337252437
>> two hand the pyromancy flame
>>337252781
There is. If you use faith as a spell buff for your melee weapons. I use a DEX/FTH build.
>>337253028
It's a bug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvCbKNi7vL8
>>337253024
I was able to farm 8 concords from those fucking knights for 2 hours. Just so I can get the fucking Darkmoon Ring. Never again.
>>337252905
lies
>>337252437
I don't think you know how that glitch works, anon.
>>337253151
Nope. I wish I was though.
>>337252939
Faith is fucking trash and only good for the self-revive, healing, and non-damage force. It doesn't even start doing any noticable damage till you hit 40-50 faith, and caps at 60.
-Lighting Spears are shit and cost too much
-WotG has a 3-second wait timer, eats up FP, and does measly damage with only its range being ok
-Force Blast is only good for knockback, and you have to be creative to hit even the braindead.
-Buffs are short and shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YitZ4JYZG6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPyqxeVIztM
>>337253120
thje point he was making is that you cannot two hand a pyromancer flame, idiot.
>>337253292
That's a damn shame, why did they make faith so shitty?
>>337252867
>it's back at the alter
I've tried reloading that area before and it wasn't there. maybe since I've killed some bosses since then it will be there.
>use Vordt's hammer
>Range fucks over R 1 spammers and wide sweeps mean they can't side roll well.
>>337253427
DaS2 happened. Faith was great and balanced in 1, strong in 2 but made up in cast amounts (and then got nerfed to ground after bitching). It seems like hex and regular magic got nerfed hard too, though both are still usable and start to be viable at end game.
>>337251718
>27 Vig
Lmao enjoy getting one shotted by my great hammer bitch
>>337253327
You are dense as fuck you moron, THAT is the bug
The guy is referencing the bug. The cause of the bug is that you DO two-hand the pyromancy flame, something your NOT supposed to do, and this causes the glitch where you oneshot everyone with sacred flame
>>337249394
>>337250736
>>337250872
All of you are talking big shit, can you back that up though? Put your sign down at crucifixion woods bonfire. I'm waiting right here 1 on 1. You've even got major adds to help you if you decide to run.
>>337252781
Thats exactly what im going to do, there are some quality miracles to be honest.
Im currently using the Aldrich Sapphire with an executioner's blade so im pretty much self sustainable with FP, then i use Replenishment for a constant regeneration and im golden.
I only use Estus for panic healing and invasions.
But yeah offensive Faith build is in a sorry state, i wish DLC to fix that because as the game currently stands i just cant encourage anyone to go balls deep on Faith and expect any meaningfull reward that isnt throwing Lightning Spears at point blank.
I'm putting this here so people can see.
>Dark Souls 3 Straight Sword Hitboxes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCDcrHMVtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMpJzG_dbUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhDiALsnpTg&
For those that don't understand.
>Greatswords 1 handed swing is shorter than the Straight Sword. 2 handed swing is only 1 character longer.
>Ultra Greatswords only about 1 character longer or 1 1/2.
>Halberds are around 2 characters longer.
In short it's actually still better to use a straight swords because of its range/stamina cost effectiveness.
Picture as shown is the max range of a Straight Sword.
>>337253745
>posts an image of someone 2handing talismans, which you can do, instead of pyromancy flame
HMMMMMMMMM
>>337253745
he's two handing a talisman literally in your picture.
You need to use the whitehair talisman for the glitch, you cannot use the pyromancy flame because you cannot two hand it, but you can two hand talismans.
man the OP's video is so fucking fun to watch
>>337253745
The glitch isnt 2 handing a pyro flame moron the glitch is with sacred flame. The glitch triggers when you either 2 hand the white hair talisman(can cast pyromancys) or when you get a counter attack sacred flame while one handing the pyro flame
>>337252509
Reload the area and go back to Anri's corpse. Her armour and Sword should be there.
>>337246958
>Headed through the area with all the dead/sleeping giants after Pontiff
>Invaded by red spirit just as reach the area with the stairwell going up, or the ladder going down to the water storage
>Go down the ladder with a sunlight spirit, figuring the water storage will be a better place to fight than in the stairwell, also realize I can probably get some cheap shots as the red spirit comes down the ladder
>Reach the bottom of the water storage, Aldritch faithful invades as well
>Wait down the bottom with a crossbow and sunlight spirit with bombs
>Finally noticed the red spirit coming down the ladder, when the Aldritch faithful slides down and crashes into him
>Both of them start kicking and punching each other on the ladder
>Eventually cause each other to both fall and both die from the fall
I laughed for a good minute.
>>337252140
Yes, DaS2 definitely has the better PvP at the moment.
>>337245406
You are either dogshit at the game or a parrot if you don't think that great weapons are the superior PvP weapons right now.
I win basically every single PvP encounter with my Black Knight Greataxe +5, and the only other people I'm wary of are other people with great weapons, and maybe some spears/halberds.
>>337253902
Holy shit
This explains a lot
>>337253578
I did all endings in the same playthrough.
After stabbing him in the face. I killed the pilgrim for my chameleon spell and returned to Anri's corpse and "quit the game" to force a save and return to the main menu. Then I hit "continue" and when the game resumed the corpse was gone and the sword was left in its place.
Since I did all the endings in the same playthrough that means that all my bosses (even the last boss) was dead when I did the wedding.
>parry spammers.
>>337251627
WHAT IS PARRY
WHAT IS IT, HOW DO I USE IT?
HERPA DERPA
>>337253745
it is literally a fucking talisman in the picture
>>337253279
>>337253151
Next time i'll cap it for you fools, i have several fights against dualswords and darkswords and they are easy as shit.
Just memers
>>337254442
What a shame, he probably could have done a lot more just spamming r1
>>337246958
I did first play through with the dark infused battle axe and changed it to chaos towards the end, pyro chaos orb was taking half a player's health in pvp followed by a parry, fuck using the same shit as everyone else. People should play how they want and if you depend on using an 'op' then have fun I'd rather learn how to counter the popular builds.
Straightswords are poo ,it's a meme like Drake's Sword in DaS1
No hyper armor
No range
No good damage (sans the dark sword)
Ultra weapons are the elephant in the room
Huge hyper armor Windows
No poise in game means if you get hit once,you are stunlocked in your place for the follow up,at lower SL metas this is practically 65%-75% of your HP
Unbelievable weapon arts like the one Nameless Kings Lance has
I use the Profaned Great sword and have only lost once in the last 10 games
>>337252773
>>337254447
And what if you miss the parry? You just get R1 spammed without getting another chance.
You both are right on that being the best way of countering it but if you fuck up the timing then the other guy just cheeses his way through the fight.
>>337254651
Darkword has Hyperarmor weapon art.
>>337254791
How the fuck you gonna miss a parry when you get free parry after ever 2 hits? Shit like estoc you can just parry with a medium shield, but some trickier weapons you can use caectus. It doesn't even take skill.
>>337254651
>people read that profaned is a good weapon to smash people with.
>but they don't put in the time to actually learn how to use the damn thing.
>>337254857
only the stomp itself does,
The follow up Attack doesn't,unless of course you let him get midswing phase
>>337252691
Start as a Knight if you plan on making a hybrid FAI character. If you're going for pure FAI or FAI/LKC, then choose Cleric.
Miracle buffs like Lightning Blade, Tears of Denial, Sacred Oath and Deep Protection are incredibly good, but most offensive miracles are terrible (e.g. Lightning Spear family, Emit Force, Gnaw...). Just get 30 FAI and stop there, then focus on your other stats.
If you do FAI/LCK, you can just focus on getting FAI and LCK to 30, creating a Hollow weapon and shield, getting them to +10 for a Luck boost of 10, and then just using the Anri Straight Sword along with the other Hollow weapon. You can stack a bunch of regen buffs using this combo and can take advantage of lacerating weapon and the Gnaw family of miracles. It's pretty fun and one of my favorite builds.
>>337253578
I see. I'm afraid I don't know where else to look for it, then.
>>337253427
Because people whined about them in DaSII. You could trivialize the game with Lightning Spear spam, but instead of reducing how many you could cast, they opted to just nerf the damage altogether. In order to make them damaging, but not overpowered, they decided to make it so that in order to deal full damage with a Lightning Spear, you have to hit an enemy at (practically) point blank. Personally, I think it's a dumb idea because they could have just made them consume a lot of FP rather than making them practically useless. I find it funny that they'd even try to do that considering you can still use Sorceries or Pyromancies to "trivialize" the game in the same way. I don't understand their thought process sometimes when it comes to balancing things.
>>337254791
You can roll away after two hits, everytime.
>>337255115
>that feel when you keep knocking people out of stomp
>>337254983
But I do know how to actually use the damn thing
>>337255115
So the Darkwraiths before Abyswalkers are gimped that way then? I remember them having full poise.
No Dorksworder ever two handed against me, so i wouldn't really know, it's from enemy experience.
>>337253834
I never said I was good, just that you're garbage
>join fight club
>watching the guys before me fight while i wait my turn
>all of the sudden the guy losing takes a sippy
>"AH HELL NAW"
>like a hivemind we ALL go gank up on him at the same time in response to his crap
>chase him around the map and kill him
>we all go back and have fair duels
Clubs are way better than shitty invasions
>>337254983
>fight a profaned GS with my profaned GS
>we both charge R2 at each other, literally a hair of distance between us
>attacks are exactly the same timing, no one is hit, swords where paralel to each other
>i am baffled for a second, didnt move
>he starts clapping
great times
he wrecked me then afterwards.
>>337254791
if you are really fighting an R1 spammer, you will get a parry off.
If you are fighting someone that only hits R1 twice, then you might be in trouble, but that means the guy has a brain.
If you don't want to parry at all, use a heavy weapon with hyper armor, and aim R1 to the spot you think he'll be at. You'll out trade him to death.
Fuck, you could just use a weapon with more range than the R1 spammer, and just counter R1, or roll L1/R1. Drang spears for example.
>>337255595
You have to approach random invasions with a different mindset, though. They're more frustrating, sure, but I prefer them to fight clubs.
is pc or ps4 the way to go for invasions?
>>337253834
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>337251228
>Literally me
I wear all sunbro gear have sunlight sword and have lighting spears and lighting stake to fool people into rolling foward to get zapped,to think they were going to receive help only to get molested by the "gay master"
>>337255727
I use Chaosblade or Rapier Sprint Thrust, always manages to hit them.
>>337255272
I think I just fought you
With my profaned GS,
You were using one too ?
>>337255595
Name one reason why drinking estus is a bad thing.
>>337251228
>signs are visible different
>tricking anyone
only retards are tricked by this shit.
>>337255751
>You have to approach random invasions with a different mindset, though
Fuck that, as souls games got more recognized they got filled with faggots that walk around with an armada of phantoms throughout the entire level. It baffles me how they can enjoy playing like that.
>>337256041
nope, I don't even use that character any more.
>>337256060
Don't bother.
Those kinds of people think Dark Souls games are pseudo fighting games
>>337245406
/v/ is never ever right. I mean about anything at all ever. 90% of the user base is 13 year old memesters.
>>337256196
Oh alright, we had a great duel
Both went at eeach other with charged r2s and all
>>337256175
They want to have fun slaying invaders by making them easy kills.
>>337256060
If you're being invaded while clearing a level its not, if you're in a fight club you're a dick for not following the unwritten rules of gentlemanly combat.
>>337254442
stuff like this is even better when you're using something unparryable
>>337256105
Most people playing DaS3 are brainless, so yeah...
>>337256060
>>337256207
Chuggers die, because they rely on their estus.
I never lost to a chugger yet, because you can punish them with at last two hits or a backstab.
Just don't estus for your own git gud
>>337256175
It feels way better when you manage to kill them all or just their host.
It's especially fun when you have Obscuring/Silvercat rings equipped and can just run and hop around the level in a big ol' goose chase, only to one-shot them withCrystal Soul Spear or Soul Stream.
I dunno, I can see why other people would hate it, but I'm totally prepared to fuck their shit up.
>>337256451
I'm pretty sure healing yourself is the opposite of dying but keep thinking that buddy.
>>337253026
How do you not get 1-shot by those faggots spamming caestus parries? Even at 35 vigor and heavy armor on They hit you once with their broken ads estoc or dark Sword and do 400 damage and then their riposte always kills you.
>>337256451
>I never lost to a chugger yet
I believe you
Just had another one
>Host is camping up in a small room outside the cathedral with a sunbro phantom, obviously trying to ambush me
>Sunbro's fat arse is sticking out the door due to his catharina set
>Blue gets summoned as well
>bail, 3vs1 in close quarters isn't in my favor
>Use a white branch and hide in plain sight, waiting for the host to open the door to the cathedral proper
>all 3 of the fuckers pass me and the host opens the door
>sprint inside, past the giant, and do taunts from the other side
>They use range attacks on the giant and somehow manage to kill it with magic or something while I go further in.
>Run pas the second giant and up the plateau, sunbro gets killed off screen by god knows what
>Blue spirit and host keep trying to get me down to their level, I respond with firebombs, arrows and magic.
>Blue has had enough and sprints past the giant up the plateau, and gets killed by me
>returning to your world, host has disconnected
>mfw still a double tongue
Kinda scummy but that's what invading is for.
>>337254272
Oh fuck, I love invader infighting. Especially if it involves purples. I have no idea why they do it either because there's nothing to gain, except for purples I guess.
>>337254635
Yeah, do whatever works man. I love dealing with unexpected builds. My jack of all trades is working out fine too. Considering getting a different weapon due to the estocs reputation, even though I use it as a close quarters back up.
>>337256551
Anon is saying that if you rely less on healing, then you become better at the game.
>>337256460
I dont want to give some shitter the pleasure of boasting about killing me because he and his buddies stun locked me.
>>337256653
use an unparryable weapon.
you should also be good at using it/ don't use running R1s if they have a parry tool out.
>>337255228
Not all the time. I don't know how the game decides to do it but sometimes I can't escape spam for 3 or 4 hits. Also the glaives are completely fucked with the r1 stun into their retarded fucking sword art. Why does that shit stun me the entire time and sometimes that one combo will kill me from 100 to 0.
>>337256847
And that's ok. I personally don't care if I lose. I just like to mess with people or help out fellow invaders.
>>337256985
Always.
Unless you go into the negative with your stamina by failing a parry.
Who cares. Pvp is trash in the souls games. Play a real multiplayer game like cod or something you poorfag.
>>337256653
vary the timing on your attacks, most people parry because "I think they're about to attack" rather than actually knowing when you're attacking. There';s a window for another attack after R1s wait longer, to do a follow up. Change how much your charge an R2, half way, just a tap, or a nearly full one, whatever. chaning up how your character attacks always helps.
see something like >>337254442
>>337255403
enemy mob poise works, its player poise that does not work.
Enemy NPC poise is also broken
>>337256847
If I lose then I don't mind. 4vs1 is inherently unfair. If I do manage to outwit them and kill them then shame on them right?
Having your 4 man retard crew beaten by a solo guy must hurt the ego a lot more than the other way around.
>>337257173
I can be at 100 stamina and be spamming roll trying to get away and it won't work at times. Maybe it's because the game pairs me with literal tin house third world Brazilians or something and the netcode is fucked.
>>337256985
I think the only time that it does not work is when the other player is a laggy fuck since the timing of rolling out and everything in general is fucked when this happens.Fuck hues that use estocs.
>invading dudes in the beginning area of dragon valley
>invade someone and don't see them anywhere
>walk around for a bit and still can't see him
>stand on the rock formation in the center and debate just leaving
>move a bit and fall down onto a small ledge
>notice something else is on it
>whatthefuck
>the bastard had been laying down on this fucking ledge for 10 minutes waiting for me to leave
>we both look at each other for a few seconds before he realizes i found him
>he books it
>here we go
>chase him up towards all the monsters he didn't kill and he aggros them
>he dodges all of them and keeps running
>runs up to the ruins and aggros bighuge snake thing
>I catch up and get some attacks off but he keeps rolling away and healing like a bitch
>at this point everything in the fucking area is chasing this guy with me
>shitstorm of fireballs and sword swipes coming after him
>keeps dodging
>we do laps around the whole area until he runs all the way to the initial spawn and turns to face me
>finally
>i stand still and watch him strafe left and right until he backs up and falls off the cliff and dies
Welp
>>337245406
How much INT did that guy in the video have to have his fireball do that kind of damage?
Been playing for almost 40 hours and haven't beaten the game yet.
It's just like with ds2, played over 200 hours there but only completed a run three times.
I keep making new characters.
>>337252269
Wow I've never had that happen Jesus what scum of the earth
>>337257839
I do this a lot too. I'm at 97 hours played with only one character at the last boss, haven't killed him yet. But i have probably 20-30 hours in new characters.
Why do people like the Astora Greatsword so much? Damage seems like shit if you just go heavy or refined.
It only looks good for faith and pyro players with the scaling on lighting and chaos
>>337256814
And if you heal you are open for attacks, that is even more crucial.
And another very important fact, if they are in need of heal, and you know it, you clearly see they try to create distance, but a simple sprint attack will do very fine to remind him to not heal.
>watching a blissfully unaware host combat a ninja skeleton from a floor above
>plunging attack only after he beats it
I'm so sorry.
>>337252282
You really shouldn't if you have a regular straight sword you have speed on your side so you could bum rush them and lock them into swipe combos before the could even get there mid swing going just be careful if the have shields
>>337257940
>get summoned to help a host
>think it will be to kill Aldrich
>no, I guess it's to help kill this invader
>we kill the invader
>host waves at me, walks out of the cathedral, and then kills himself
What the fuck
>>337251627
R1 is your default "fast swing" why the fuck would you NOT use it? I see this complaint everywhere and I don't get it. R2 should be like a mix up or poke or something. Yeah, it's kind of annoying to get hit so much but you can
-roll away
-parry
It isn't that hard. I haven't even had trouble with Dark Sword users unless their connection is ass and they have 2000ft of range.
>>337258141
Got 17 hours on my most played. Got to lothric castle and went "nah fuck that" and made a new one.
>>337257839
Same here. Around 40 hours in still on my first character. I dick around too much and have a bad habit of constantly wanting to change my playstyle.
I just unlocked the kiln so I might just finish the game and start a new character like a pyro or something.
I just can't stand how PvP in this literally consists of
>longsword
>estoc
>exile greatsword
Everything else is pretty much shit and outclassed. I use Pyromancy and magic switching between the two on different charscters but I never ever play against people using either of them and the ones I do just suck ass or try to to that 1hit kill glitch with sacred flame and die in the process because they're garbage memers.
>>337258151
plunging attacks are great.
>>337257651
Sounds like a retard.
>run into the ancient wyvern arena
>you can hit the invader but the invader just sees a fog wall
Worst case he already triggered the boss fight so he just homeward bones out in the 20 sec the wyvern takes to spawn.
>>337258351
I like Gundyr's Halberds. You plunge it straight down into the ground and pin them.
What the fuck is up with the white phantom twinks in this game?
I tried out some low level pvp for the first time on a new character and 4/5 people had white phantoms with shit from dragon land or lothric equipped.
I know sequence breaking is a thing but I have a hard time believing this many people have done that.
>tfw progressing through NG+ with Dried Fingers always active
>Invaded by a dark spirit every two minutes
>see them, they see me
>oh shit a host without phantoms
>watch them salivate while [buffing intensifies]
>they sprint towards me
>warcry with greataxe
>CTHUNK
>oh, that's okay, i'll just roll an-
>CTHUNK
>dead
>repeat 5-10 times per area
It's especially satisfying when they spend a full five minutes trying to track me down and die in 30 seconds.
only place I invade is the skeleton bridge outside of Wolnir.
WELCOME TO THE BONE ZONE
>>337256105
Just like the devil in the middle ages, only morons fell for his ruses
>put sign down in starter area
>get summoned by dude
>help him get past dragon
>find the second bonfire
>help kill the crystal lizard
>show him the way to the cell key
>guide him to greirat
>take the lift up to the shortcut
>black crystal out as i'm out of estus
It's the little things
>its a estoc is unbeatable episode
mfw
>>337258560
>host hides behind the fog
>>337256060
If you chug during a fight club it'll get you chased around the map by the entire club until you die?
I don't know, Anon.
>>337258506
all spears are like that, yeah.
but I'm still partial to things like UGS
>kill the same invader three times in the catacombs
>won't stop invading me, but just HEYs and jumps off a cliff every time
>>337258696
You got lucky enough to fight someone who actually tried fancy shit instead of just mashing R1 and hitting you from across the realm with its projectile hitbox.
>>337258560
Keked
>>337258145
It has best moveset out of all UGS. Really all of it's moves are useful. Also it's the lightest UGS.
>>337253024
>Its not a skull
>its an ear
>>337258547
It's only going to get more common until FROM fixes the Sword Master glitch.
The other day I invaded two other shitters in the Cathedral of the Deep with Crystal Sage staves who were passworded and were just shitting out soul arrows and rapier R1 spam at everything. I killed them, but it was unnerving to see them at first. I honestly expected to get blown to pieces by Soul Spears or something.
>>337258547
Alot of people like myself run low SL builds, but it's possible they were host-summoned and leveled down as a result.
>>337258806
>y-you where just lucky!
>it d-d-doesnt count FAG!
no nigga this happens every time
>host has 4 MAN SQUAD for Wolnir, a boss I killed in less than 20 seconds my first try
>they all try ganking me
>kite them past fucking skeletons and HOLD MY FUCKING GROUND in front of fog wall
>mfw their 4 man gank squad has nothing on my 16 skeleton gank squad and they all die as I use the spread out gesture as my bone homies do all my work
There's nowhere else I would rather invade.
>>337258917
I thought it was a fucking mask.
>>337256329
I only chug when the invader chugs.
This Rule helps to beat them at the psychological warfare. He admittet defeat in one bout and it restarts again.
Thats why you shouldn't really estus, or at least not first.
Yesterday i got invaded in Undead Settlement right before the gates. He lost 3 of 4 bouts and was out of estus. Then he died because he was afraid.
Pressure is important
>>337258929
What's the sword master glitch?
>>337258979
You fight morons who miss time parry and use the runnign r1 too much every time?
Just doing R1 R1 back away shits on everyone
Is the amount of stamina a weapon swing takes just tied to the type of weapon it is?
Like all the UGS use the same amount of stamina despite their weight?
>>337258547
you get leveled down if you're summoned by password
>>337253845
All they have to do is make poise relevant and all area of effect miricals will become god, currently for invading I use sunlight straight sword heavy lighting spear and lighting stake and a med heal,I usually start by throwing a lightning spear to give off a noobish vibe then I switched to lighting stake and I cast it,the second I cast it 11/10 they run for me right into the trap and get fucked and while there stunned I already have my sunlight buff so there struggle is very short
>>337258806
>fancy shit
>dude runs away to chug and spams R1 with a single completely mistimed parry attempt thrown in there
>>337258548
I did this too for a while until I got bored. Anyone with less then 1000 HP got instagibbed by that greataxe swing. Got the same guy twice in a row and he fell for it both times.
After some time it got annoying having to deal with phantoms and progressing trough NPC's at the same time.
>>337259192
I think so. I was using Uchi most of the game until Ricard's dropped and I saw how little stamina it used for the same or even better damage.
I went generic greatsword for my first run and I'm almost done.
Should I try a bow or a magic build next?
>>337258831
It's literally the same moveset as Zweihander
Or better yet the Profaned Greatsword which has much more hyper armor,better damage and a weapon art that adds a fire buff to your weapon for 15 seconds which means a lot in a fight
Just doesn't sound much in talk
>>337258768
That plunge
>>337259306
A bad parry attempt is still a parry attempt.
again the guy could have been doing r1 backstep r1 backstep or just mashing r1 by itself over and over and shot his invisible magic swords everywhere.
>>337259373
Magic is pretty fun if you're just doing PvE. Luckily with all the infusions in the game you don't have to invest a shit ton into physical stats to do good melee damage.
Also you can nuke all the bosses that aren't strong against magic.
>>337259450
But that's what he tried to do.
>demolishing everyone with my luck+bleed build
>those panicked rolls when they realized how fast dat bleed building up
>>337245406
iron flesh + sacred flame is a goofy gimmick that you fall for once
if you ever fall for it agai, you're a retard
>>337258547
I beat all the bosses in my twink and mainly coop to help other. I kind of hate it when I invade and the host in NG High wall has a Twin Princes' Greatsword and other shit that is not possible even if they killed dancer 1st.
>>337258768
Is the lance any good? I fucking loved it in DS 2. I haven't found it in game yet? I must have missed it.
>>337259164
It's this:>defeat Sword Master (naked uchi guy in Firelink)
>kill Emma and initiate the Dancer fight early
>summon Sword Master
>enter the boss fog
>let Sword Master get killed
>quit, then reload
>go back and summon him again
>for some reason, he will be invincible to all of the Dancer's attacks and can basically solo her for you, granting you access to Lothric Castle without doing any work
You can't access the Grand Archives, but even just having access to the castle lets you get a ton of fantastic equipment before even touching the Undead Settlement.
>>337249470
>claims to be Jesus
>wields an axe instead of a hammer
FALSE MESSIAH!
>>337253902
Well that makes more sense now.
>>337258831
only thing i don't like is the rolling R1
would've preferred if it had Zwei's rolling R1 poke instead of the rolling overhead slam
>farming wolf blood grass using the Lothric long spear because I hate myself
>fighting a host and his phantom
>another watch dog is summoned and distracts the Phantom
>host is about to take a sippy
>giant crab comes out of nowhere and slam dunks him.
>>337255471
you're talking mad shit like you can back it up and now you're pussing out? Typical
>pop dried finger in archives
>darkspirit invades
>chameleon
>Darkmoon/Blue summoned
>watch them duel the invader for their precious cov items
>gain measly 2-5k souls per invader death
>Darkmoon finds me and stretches out
Eventually we went on a search for the last invader because he was wearing that invis at range ring. fuck that ring can be spooky.
>>337258979
That guy was an obvious scrubbo, and the Estoc isn't even as good as you kids make it out to be. It's literally just casual filter.
Only scrubs use parrying shields too, there's no reason not to use a caestus or fist weapon unless you're bad.
>>337259741
It's not a lance, it's a gargoyle flame spear, formt he gargoyles in the profaned capital.
There's actually three weapons in the lancer (Pike, in this game) catagory, the Pike, the Lothric Knight Longspear, and the Great Lance. They're all slower than spears, but generally are stronger or have a longer range.
>>337259424
randomly seeing people plunge attack is hilarious to me.
>>337245406
>Pyromancy isnt good
>Iron flesh is one of the only ways to get poise.
>Sacred Flame one shots people.
>>337259647
Post your character. I get the feeling I've played against you.
>>337259568
>he pressed the attack button during the fight so that means he was spamming the attack button
no?
>>337245406
It's going to be a while before I can play this game, but I heard there was a thing called dark pyromancey.
Is this a 4th magic category? What's the differences between it and hexes?
>>337260440
black pyromancy attacks deal additional damage to stamina, or something.
>>337260375
His moveset consists of
>walking forwards
>R1
>one single long failed attempt to parry
?????????
>>337260603
Is dark still a damage type like in DaS II? I heard there was also frost too.
>>337260603
They inflict physical damage so it's good for breaking poise (if it existed) and stamina.
>>337259398
nope, Zweihander's rolling R1 and two hand R2 are different to Astora.
Astora has trust attack on both one hand and two hand R2.
Zwei has a poke on one hand R2 and overhead slam on two hand R2 (opposite on Profaned)
i prefer the thrust attacks cause they are quicker than the overheads.
Astora is basically a spear with UGS hyper armor
>>337253902
I was just memeing when I made this image but holy shit, it's fucking perfectly accurate
>>337252173
I really underestimated those sellsword twinblades
Some guy lightning buffed them like you and just tore me a new anus
>>337260654
>TWO parry attempts
>what is running attack
>calling out his entire play-style based on 25 seconds
ok
Deep Soul and Great Deep Soul seem really weak and slow
Do they do something that Im not aware of?
>>337260807
The spin is pretty gud to close distance with
>>337252173
Are miracles worth it for lightning blade or nah?
>>337260807
They can get insanely strong
I have a Bandit that uses those and a Pharis Black Bow. I'll probably beat the whole game with these weapons, nothing seems to scale better for DEX guys
Does an invasion matter on what level your currently equipped weapon is? Say I have a +5 weapon and a +9 weapon. Will equipping the +5 weapon and invading put me in that bracket or does it go off of my highest level one I have on me?
>>337260737
>one handing UGS
Why ?
>>337259123
>Try helping people out with Wolnir since he was the farthest boss I had so far and needed money
>It takes three times as long to break one bracelet, host dies to summoned skellys with 1500 health
In hindsight why would you even want to summon for that shit?
>>337260848
Why are you getting offended?
What are you trying to defend?
Do you personally only know to R1? Is this why?
I don't give a shit what playstyle they use, but this guy objectively mashes R1. There's nothing fancy about it, and nothing wrong, it's just objectively what he does.
>>337253024
youre wasting your time, lightning blade/gmw do the exact same damage
>>337260807
i find the weapons that has weapon art spin that you can combo from an R1 are really really good and can often kill someone from the combo.
>>337260856
Deep Soul is shit, but Great Deep Soul is, as the name describes, great. You can cast two simultaneously and they track pretty well, especially at a distance. I use them in fight clubs along with Great Farron Dart and Crystal Hail to catch bad rolls and run attempts. They're a lot better to use in that environment than Soul Arrows/Spears because they're not as FP-costly.
Also, I still use them outside of Fight Clubs when hosts or phantoms try to run away at low health. Like I said, it tracks really well and then speeds up, so they only get better the further away you are.
>>337261106
R1 is the fucking attack button you mong.
"WAAAH THE ATTACK BUTTON KILLS PEOPLE!" no shit retard
>>337261070
Your R1 is faster when you only use one hand.
>>337259226
Does this make your high level weapons unusable?
What if I'm using smoughs hammer and get summoned into a lv 20?
>>337261209
did you read his post or?
>>337260940
Miracle buffs are amazing. Lightning Blade, Darkmoon Blade, Deep Protection, Tears of Denial-- Honestly, miracles would be completely terrible if not for the fact that they have excellent buff spells.
>>337260807
That's because it has the fastest starter combo of R1 L2 R2 in any weapon. If you get hit R1, chances are, you lost already.
In fact, if you do live, you can't estus after since you can't out-heal the damage that will be done to you again.
>>337261242
That just means you get less hyperarmor frames,it's a bad thing.
Both are slow as shit
1 is a little less slower but without the added protection
>>337261298
Duh? And he's complaining about "R1 mashing" Did you read his post, stupid?
>>337261007
Weapon Memory. You can sell the weapon, discard it, trade it or store it but once you have a +9 you are always in that bracket until you use a slab to create a +10/+5 and enter the final bracket.
>>337245406
Had a really great invasion last night. Was 4v2. The other red and I managed to kill a blue, two whites, host, and yellow during the entire shit show.
Whittled them down slowly. I got a shield break on the yellow to kill him while other red gets the blue. Right as I parry the white and finish him off, I got a host destroyed message. Other red and I point each other.
Good times.
>>337248824
DO
YOUR
F U C K I N G
JOB!!!
>>337254635
Yeah man, fuck the system! Viva la revolution man
>>337260940
The only miracles I use with that build is Tears of Denial and Lightning Blade. But the other miracles are good as well, if they are buff miracles.
>>337261392
Hyperarmor doesn't matter when you catch somebody when he doesn't expect it.
>>337261106
The fact that you only saw 1 parry attempt in that webm shows you have a very base level understanding for the PVP in this game.
Where you see him "mashing R1" is when it's more than likely to hit twice (at close range, during and after a roll).
There's no reason not to do that in that situation with a plethora of weapons, not just the Estoc. Try educating yourself further before presenting an argument.
>>337261431
>There's nothing fancy about it, and nothing wrong
>>337245406
I dont get the pyromancy hate either
I beat the nameless king with naught but a scratch because i just kited him around the arena throwing fire at him
>>337261257
If it's anything like Bloodborne, it'll just scale down your damage and health rather than your actual stats.
>>337261535
Which is a pretty long shot since you can see UGS swings coming an entire era before it actually hits
>invading
>either get ganked or enemy disconnects as soon as you drop get their HP low
>>337261101
Depends on the host. I did some coop on that boss yesterday and my 1st run was over in less than 30 sec. The run with 3 phantoms + host ended in 2 phantoms dead and host dead. Most of the time it goes fast but it was mainly casters and clueless people that made it long.
>>337261669
>drop get
wow i need sleep
>>337261584
>I'm going to floor them by attempting to relate to their beliefs in hopes that I come off educated on the matter after getting served.
You just fell for like the number one Jew tactic bro.
>Simple Caestus
>Wolnir's Holy Sword
>60 FTH
Pic related, it's me.
>>337261436
Well that sucks. I have 6 +10 weapons and I thought just putting them into my bottomless box would allow me to invade in different brackets with other weapons. Time for a new dude then.
>trying to max aldrich at 120
Fuck you and your fight clubs, do this elsewhere
>>337261663
If you're going to argue that way, you might as well never use any weapon with a longer windup than the Dagger, as you could be parried easily.
Why do people say Chaos Bed Vestiges is best pyro? I'm running Chaos Fireball and it seems a lot better, the lava catches a lot of people off guard and it has way more range.
Also, what's the highest level I can play at while still having AF be super active? I really want to level but I also like invading so fast I can't even take my covenant off if I want to.
>>337260091
I hide out right outside of pontiff with that ring beside one of the dead giants and wait for hosts to run past before I great arrow their ass into the other two shits fun as fuck when it works
>>337261560
He's objectively mashing R1. That's the playstyle most people use in all of the Souls games. If you think there's any thought behind the bestoc guy's way of playing in that webm, you gotta be blind man.
mfw I pvp too hard that I look like a bloodborne
>>337261843
Parrying slow weapons is tricky though.
You'll find people slipping up and parrying too early against stuff like FUGS/Profaned/Halberd etc a lot.
Parrying heavy weapons is actually harder than parrying straightswords and daggers because those things are so fast , a reactionary parry from the Caestus will net you a riposte
>>337260049
Why are you so mad lol
>Invaders that use poison and toxic
I hope you all get put in concentration camps
I get summoned all the time for Darkmoon shit, some times to completely different areas
I just entered NG+ at SL98 with 10+ weapons. I picked up 7 concords just going through the High Wall
I wonder why some people have so much difficulty getting summoned
>>337262142
*Parrying weapons you have never used yourself is tricky.
It's all about what you're used to and what you know about.
>>337262070
Man, why do the blood textures in this game look so shitty compared to bloodborne's? I keep thinking I got mud all over my character.
>>337262070
the best moments are when you're covered in blood.
>invade a 3v1 against host and two whites
>put on Demons Fist
>take them all out at the same time
>mfw
>>337262334
I use Ultra weapons exclusively though.
Parrying them is the hardest and it's a universally accepted fact in the community
>>337262495
You're the first person I see claiming that, so we'll have to agree to disagree.
>>337262265
I usemercury and that shit that wrecks your gear
>>337261341
What's your build? I'm thinking about running a sellsword character.
>>337262593
Y-you too
>get invaded in irithyll
>iron flesh activated
>stay perfectly stil
>red goes for a running r 1, catch him with sacred flame
>he gets up, runs away, chugs, then tries again
>repeats a good 2 time for a total of 3 attempts at this.
>black cryatals out after running to pontiff knights
>summoned to help
>host is getting invaded by the same dude
>he backs away from the host who has 1 tick of heath left and tries to rush me
>no iron fleah ready, eat his 2 hit for about half my health.
>host backstabs him and its a 1hko
Iron flesh is becoming my crutch
Which is bad because it actually sucks this time around compared to the older games
GANK SQUAD
This is good bread
>>337253662
I remember faith wad pretty dope in ds2. Though it was more for hexes. But fsirh buikds in ds 1 are still pretty fun.
>>337253834
Holy shot bro like calm down >>337253148 I farmed for 3 hrs with crystal sage rapier item serpent ring and 50 luck and I got 28
>>337262813
How is that even fun?
Glaive,
HOW DO I DEAL WITH GLAIVE USERS
>>337262280
The system likes to summon the same people over and over again. I killed the same blueberry 3 times in less than 30 minutes. In one of those I invaded a host that had ran out of estus and when I finished killing his white phantom 3 blues where summoned at the same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3drKdr6JGVE
ill just leave this here
>>337262265
>Dying to the weakest version of poison yet
How do you pronounce Oceiros?
>>337262813
Retarded for not rolling in the right direction.
>>337263259
>>337263259
It never kills me, but Im tired of pissing away souls on blossoms
>>337263259
What IS it with poison in 3? It's so weak that you forget it even exists.
>>337263339
Oceiros.
>>337262813
What do they gain from doing this
Question for you guys:
What kind or type of invader do you guys enjoy fighting the most?
>>337261767
oh I get it youre baiting
>>337263339
Shalashaska
>>337263339
I think it's supposed to be something along the lines of ah-seir-ohs but I just say Osiris. Sounds a lot better imo
>>337263431
The kind that has a partner and leads my host and his ganksquad on a chase without host using seed. Shit is fun as fuck.
>>337253120
this is worse then the crystal glitch shield
>>337263390
Why? Just tank it, it doesn't drain more than few hundred HP at most.
>get invaded
>he obliterates me because im trying an experimental chaos int/faith build
>mfw he sends me a friendly message on what I can do to improve next time
what weapon is better for pvp, BK glaive or gundyr's halberd?
>>337263339
OH-SEE-AIR-OHS
>>337261341
Stats?
Did you go full 60 Faith or just enough to use Lighting Blade and Tears?
>>337263669
Better than this
>>337253745
From should make all catalysts unable to be two-handed and turn their R2s into the WA. That way, you can have a catalyst in your right hand and not have to two-hand it in order to use your weapon art.
>>337263840
Who the fuck right hands a catalyst?
>>337248824
>being this mad
Get fucking floored noob
>>337263431
the guys i just see the death message after i used my seed
>>337261839
>not running up behind the host and one shotting him
>>337263742
Both are really good. It just depends on which WA you like better.
>>337263339
Aw-seh-rowse
>>337263431
People who spam r1 forever even after they see you equip a small shield.
>>337263946
I don't have the stats for the Scholar's Candlestick so I use it in my left hand. It'd be nice not to have to two-hand my catalyst in order to activate the WA, but that's just me.
>>337245406
This makes me want to make a pyromancy character named Hank Hill. Also uses executioner's greathammer as his "ProPAIN" tank.
>>337255727
Let's be honest, a big weapon's attacks are slower than any of the major R1 spam weapons and you don't get hyper armor during the startup, only when the attack can damage anything. Given estoc, straight sword, and katana dash attacks have broken range on top of little stamina cost and fast attack time, you can't rely on hyper armor through something, because it'd rely on you attacking well before they do with something that might only barely have comparable range and takes a massive chunk of your stamina per attempt and is easy as fuck to dodge. If they get in your face, you're fucked afterwards because you can't get the attack to hyper armor that fast.
>>337263984
>Both are really good. It just depends on which WA you like better.
It seems like G halberd has a crazy R1 into WA combo. Can the black knight glaive match that?
>>337262758
>>337263774
I'm SL120 though. You might not like that part.
DEX40
FTH60
ATT14 (just so you can go 103FP since Tears is 100FP to cast)
+10 Yorshka's Chime (give +247 damage buff)
+10 Sharp Sellswords
Darkmoon Ring (for 3 slots so that I can put Tears and Lightning Blade)
Miracles:
Tears in Denial
Lightning Blade
I tried using Sacred Oath + Deep Protection for miracles instead of Tears, but I become to over eager to attack because in my mind I think I'm very tanky or something. Like the vid shown, so I stopped using them.
AR is massive though. Full buff with Sacred + Deep + LB = 688 AR or something on a Sellsword. 730+ if you put a Lightning Clutch ring.
Normally I'm at 588 I think with only LB. But that's actually enough really.
>>337264274
R2>R1>L2>R2
the necrosis combo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfOLhliABJw
BK glaive R2 is a Jump attack that has tracking
>tfw SL 106 and a +10 weapon
It's god damn tryhard central everywhere. Granted I'm at fault for going to 106 but good lord.
>>337264173
Did you ever attempt to use L2?
>invade as AF
>winning fight
>suddenly host starts literally breakdance fighting, spinning all over rolling around on the floor
what the FUCK
there is way more in this game than in previous entries thats for sure
>>337262813
Oh look!, every invasion ever.
>>337263669
What weapons and magics were you using?
>>337264695
L2 is a dagger swipe if I'm not two-handing the catalyst. Not sure what you're what you're trying to get across to me.
>>337265019
Oh.
Well then what about MMB?
poise was never turned off you scrubs. nigga just madcus they cant parry r1
http://kotaku.com/from-software-says-dark-souls-3s-seemingly-useless-pois-1776079738
>>337264668
120 was the place to stop in dark souls 1, and 150 was the place to stop in dark souls 2, the tryhards are the people pushing for 80 or lower SL meta
>try an unconventional weapon, witch's locks, and try freeaiming pyromancy in off hand
>hosts are always courteous at first, their phantoms stand to the side
>actually start winning through a combination of him not knowing the whip's attack timings and rolling into where my pyromancy's gonna land
>just as I'm about to win both the phantoms jump in and bumrush me
>die and still get the host for a shackle
WHY CAN'T I GET SUMMONED AS A BLUE ARGGGGHH
>>337256060
Because you obviously gonna win if you chug, the host have all estus uses while the summon only gets half that means if you summon for a duel, chugging gives you advantage.
I invade as a dragon, leave little presents for people, then BC out.
Because it's not like I need the covenant items anymore.
>>337259373
Bows are fucking shit in this game, don't even bother. Serious stepdown from the only bow weapon in BB and even DaS2 since you're still locked in place when you fire. Arrow hitboxes were polished to a mirror-sheen and can't hit anything and most bow skills are completely worthless. And don't forget you don't get 999 arrows anymore, just 99.
The running and rolling attack from the Composite Bow is pretty fun.
>>337265173
Knew it. If they turned on the real poise now, a whole lot of weapons that are working in DS3, won't work anymore.
>>337265237
I let the host handle the invaders if they summoned after the invader showed up. If they look like they're losing, I'll drop a siegbrau on the ground.
>>337265169
What's MMB?
>>337265374
Pharis would be awesome if the WA didn't shoot in a cone (Why? Just why?) and instead just shot three in a straight line.
>>337265675
Pharis WA + Dark Arrows track the target.
>>337265675Middle mouse button
>>337265789
That's cool. I'll have to try that out sometime.
>>337265801I'm consolefriend
>>337264506
damn, that's insane
>>337265213
To be fair, at 80 you have more than enough stats for anything. You still get fast roll at 70% and going under doesn't increase stamina regen, armor matters less than ever so there's less reason to use heavy stuff, softcaps are low. At level 80, you easily cap your offensive stat of choice, along with capping health and having respectable vit/end.
At 120, you're guaranteed capping 1 or 2 offensive stats while having shitloads of health and enough to guarantee the use of a melee weapon with a weapon buff, because that just becomes the standard instead of having to build for it.
>>337263339
AW-SAY(British accent "Say" sound)-ROSS
You know, with extra emphasis on the "cei" part which is supposed to be imparted but people don't this is how it sounds
>>337265946And I'm joking
>>337266153
Realisticly:
67 and 80 is best for most builds, and 120 optimal for all builds. 99 is for those who want high level PvP without having to deal with 120 SL range.
>>337266153
80 is only good for str/dex builds, it completely fucks over caster builds and faith builds.
>>337266330
I've been rused.
Dragonrider bow is pretty good, only heavy.
>>337266348
>67 and 80 is best for most builds
Not really, no. I tried using magic, at those levels. You really have no damage here.
>>337266498
This. If you are a str/dex user. SL80 it is. Pyro damage sucks, Magic damage sucks so nothing happens here.
>>337266872
I said most builds, non-pyro magic is obviously gimped as hell.
>>337263139
Absolute fucking garbage. You'd have to be literally retarded to lose to this.
>>337267063
Most DaS3 players are retarded, so...
I don't get whats so bad about 120. Sure everything does max damage that's fine as long as no ones abusing cheeses, which they do at lower tiers anyway.
It gives you a opportunity to use the weird weapons that you normally wouldn't because you'd have to have 15vig to actually hit the combat stats.
lv50 meta is just raw weapons 2shotting everyone
>>337267386
Try hards want only certain builds to work so they try to push the sl cap down, the meta cap has always been in the triple digits.
>>337262813
I invaded in Lothric around the Dragon Barracks once. Noticed a seed was active, and the whole gank party was right in front of me charging. They were fast, but my black crystal was faster.
>>337263431
all i ask for my pvp is that you aren't a coward, is this too much to ask?
tactical retreat, sure. outnumbered and use surrounding enemies, you're fine. but if they only thing you're doing is running no matter what, you got no business wasting my time.
>>337262070
>>337259939
>>337254983
Why do people use the cestus instead of a shield?
Encumbrance?
>>337264196
Dude what, I usually start my attack after I see them swing and get my hyper armor , even though I take damage
>>337267829
That and the parry frames are near instant I think.
>>337267386
The thing most people are concerned about is that it lets quality builds get even more VIG, VIT, and END + ATT for buffs.
I don't care, personally, just as long as people don't go over that.
>>337267386
the low level meta is just for low level invasions of the purple covenants
25 to 35 for Watchdogs and 50 to 60 for Aldritch
>>337267829
I dont actually keep it around to parry shit
I keep it around for fun
>>337267829
Its parry frames are instant. So you don't need to time anything. Just parry when their swing comes near you.
>>337264506
>that gotthard parry
jesus
>>337263398
They wanted what it was in blighttown where it was more of an environmental hazard that sneaks up on you, but its so fucking slow that every poison weapon is completely useless.
I don't even think there are toxic weapons in the game but even then its still half of ds2 regular poison.
DS2 had the best poison builds because the health loss was actually scary and fast
>>337267975
So it's even better than small shields hm?
Is Witch's Locks actually a decent weapon for a pyromancer? And how the fuck are you even supposed to distribute stats for a pyromancer anyways?
>>337268452
Yes, they're really good and have B/B scaling at +5. You just can't ripose or backstab with them.
40/40 INT and FAI is the best setup for pyromancies.
>>337264668
>tryhard central
What do you mean?
>>337268452
Invading? Yeah they're actually really good for a pyro player. Especially if you have people with you in invasions. They're the ones melee'ing the enemy while you stay far away doing that WA. It actually hurts a lot.
>>337268974
He means that people are using the weapons that can actually be used in those levels to full effectiveness. Hence, tryhards.
>>337246958
do you use a crystal chime?
>>337269085
He's getting wrecked, thus playing to win is bad, so they're tryhards. This fucking fanbase. Guys like that are the same who complain about darkswords, just take your fucking loss and improve.
Please someone tell me how to deal with Goddamn Black Knight Glaive users
>>337269703
Parry.
>>337269702
t. Estoc + Great shield SL120 champ
>>337269791
For fucks sake
>>337269824
>Estoc + Great shield SL120 champ
Problem is that combo is not only solely being done in SL120.
I've had invaded more people in SL60/80 using that combo than in SL120 really.
>>337269824
I use gundyr's, get stunlocked bitch.
How is the Lothric Knight Sword compared to the other straight swords?
>2016
>Taking Souls pvp seriously
Just use a greatshield and fish for hatemail.
>>337269824
>not being an Estoc + Great shield SL120 champ
It's like you don't want to get hate mail
>>337267968
>50 to 60 for Aldritch
I'm still getting enough activity at 80 that I can't climb that ladder up before I get another invasion and have to restart at the bottom.
>>337258560
fuckin hell
>straight sword babbies
lamo seeya kid
>>337268223
Exactly. Having wide parry window is nice, but instant parry is better because it's easier to time in the first place.
Parrying was one reason Heater Shield in DaS1 was incredible.
>>337251627
what armor is that
>>337262429
I think its meant to be ash, not blood
>>337270198
Wrong image, friendo.
>>337269824
Why would you need high vigor for that? Put all stats to offense, defend yourself with the shield. Easily doable at SL80.
>>337270247
So you can parry like in dark souls? Meh, I have the timing down on my bucklerm
>>337253834
>Bro say that in Crucifixion Woods not on the internet and see what happens bro
>>337270365
Because you know,Ultra weapons have hyperarmor,so if they begin their attack right after you start yours , they'll hyperarmor through, stunlock you for the second hit and without the necessary VIG , you will die to the follow up
>>337270045
Crit damage nigga
>>337267968
I was invading every 5 steps as a SL25 with a +2 weapon while wearing the Aldritch covenant. Watchdogs took ages at SL25.
>>337245406
>All those people rolling directly into the fireballs
Are they retarded? Why would you roll before you saw its trajectory, why would you roll directly towards where something's flightpath indicates it's going to land, and most importantly why the fuck would you roll at all if the fireball wasn't actually being thrown at you.
I kind of want to make a dark build with the crystal chime and dark infused weapon but apparently the crystal chime is shit? any way to make this work?
>>337270818
People being stupid and not realizing you can choose not to lock on. I loved doing this shit in DaS1 when using miracles.
>>337270670
With estoc though? One handed?
The weapon is both extremely fast as well as usable without lowering your shield.
It's true that 80 might have trouble fighting 100s and up but it's not going to lose to other 80 GS users unless you get baited into obvious attacks. Poke, get out, repeat.
>demon's souls comes out
>the multiplayer is fun because of the random shit you can do, making it feel like a single player game still
>dark souls comes out
>pvp fags come and take it super seriously
>people now literally only play dark souls for the PvP, the worst part of it
it's fun to fuck around and invade but since DS2 they made it way more "fair", with soul memory and fucking blue phantoms protecting the host.
>>337270258
black iron set
get it from shop after you kill the phantom in smouldering lake
>>337271117
lmao 2kat
>>337270818
They assume you're just locking on and roll sideways once lazily. That and, you don't actually know if the fire will hit you until it doesn't or does. I've walked through a lot of pyromancies without getting wounded and I've dodged a lot of pyromancies that still end up hitting.
It would be a better idea to just roll backwards and let them waste their spells.
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even tho its like 1 out of 10 fights
I hate getting parried on reaction and dying in 1 shot
no matter how unpredictable you are , theres always that one faggot that waits for the parry
shit like that why doa and sf3 werent poluar
>>337245406
>implying pyromancy is good
there is a thing called rolling
>>337271105
I think you get some hyper armor just as your swing begins ,just as it does, don't take my word for it but it's worked for me when I got matched with this estoc guy
>>337266498
I've tried it, and it doesn't fuck them over. I was able to go 30 Att/60 Int.
You just have to accept your super range blaster is a glass cannon if you really want to go all out there. If you want, you can just stop short and use a raw weapon and still take a hit and go melee with enchanted weapons.
Either way, not every build is going to have max HP.
>one dude is exceptionally good
>suddenly becomes the golden standard of being good at the game despite mostly showcasing successes out of who knows how many tries
every. fucking. game
Can I make a dark magic super build with this?
>>337271117
In DaS1, anyone strong enough to beat 4kings was strong enough to face high level players, the ones doing it at low level especially.
But doing it at low level just makes you overpowered as fuck compared to all other players at similar levels. At SL50 min-maxed lighting weapon wielder is absolutely going to shit on normal player at SL50 with +10 weapon. God help when they bother to make a chaos weapon.
Soul levels below that are just a balance nightmare even if it wasn't for elemental weapons.
Dark Souls III improves this balance by huge amounts. So far no PvP fight between two players has been as terribly unbalanced as low to medium level PvP in DaS1 was.
>>337271391
It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't make it so easy to parry in the first place. The animation is so quick that you don't need to anticipate an attack or out guess your opponent since you can just start your parry while they're half way through their swing and have it connect anyway.
>>337271448
You lose it when your swing's over, and estoc has very fast rolling attack. So the smart thing to do would be to wait for them to attack, roll through it and counter once you get up. You lose hyper armor when your swing's over.
>>337245406
Magic being bad is just a meme. It's just not ridiculously automode like the other games.
>>337271805
This right here, and getting unlimited invasion item easily accessibly as you start the game is a great boon to the community too.
>>337272013
>That health
>That FP
I could sneeze in your direction and you'll be dead.
>>337255595
t. redditor who can't win invasions
>>337271774
That's now how that chime works
It has amazing int and faith scaling but ONLY for regular soul sorceries and regular miracles
This does not translate into dark miracles or sorceries
>>337263139
Wouldn't a great shield just stop that build dead in its tracks?
>>337271391
>>337271823
It's not intuitive, but dark souls 1 parry system was the best. It was easy enough to setup parry and punish predictable play with that, but that might also get countered with a backstab if you do it every time and become predictable yourself.
To parry an initial attack you actually had to predict it instead of just doing it on reaction, making it hard but incredibly rewarding to do when successful. Hornet ring wasn't also as abundant because you only got 2 ring slots and it's a terrible addition to the game anyways.
In DaS3 it's integral to add when you PvP, issue further deepened because of the lower player HP, meaning more and more oneshot kills. The only saving grace is that it's no longer the primary tool for backstab fishers because BSs are much harder to get now.
As for the Hornet Ring itself, I think it's fundamentally flawed as it is. Because of the way defense works, it increases the damage of weapons that already have high damage than those that have lower damage. Fights ever turning into oneshots is just terrible, but that's why many people bring a large sidearm to pull of the critical.
The way it SHOULD be instead is exactly the other way around, increase the critical damage more the lower it originally is. That way it's still useful for a lot of players using small arms but you get way less oneshot battles.
>The accepted SL for meta is 120
why? That's so boring, I'd say cut that in half.
>>337272332
It's the risks I've chosen to take.
>>337271805
>DS3
>Balanced at low levels
>>337273245
I'd say increase it to 150 so I can have more than 27 vig.
>>337273245
Setting aside that proposing SL60 is retarded, there's more than enough fighting going on inbetween 80 and 120
just pick your poison and go fight you fucking dweeb
>>337252691
40 dex 60 faith, use darkmoon blade and sellsword twinblades, r1 l2 r2 death combo
>>337273564
Pretty balanced when compared to fights like these
http://mmdks.com/86kn but with +5 weapons and +3 armor at most (putting it at barely over 100 defense and about 140 attack at best)
vs
http://mmdks.com/86km or the likes
Because this is what Dark Souls 1 low level PvP looks like. Sure, there might be players at low levels with better gear, but they've already gotten past the bosses and therefore never get invaded.
>>337274345
Surprised you didn't post the giant dad or one of the many faggots with maxed out armor+humanity that makes them barely damagable (if you even want to call it damage at that point).
>>337245406
Always remember that /v/ = reddit.
Therefore all /v/ users are just Sulyvahn bonfire "fight club" babies and don't know about real invasion pvp.
Anyone have some advice for caestus parrying against straight swords? I can never seem to land the timing. Even after so many hours using it I'm still stuck on the DS2/DS3 parry shield timing. I can get twinblades and katanas well enough but these straight swords are really annoying.
>>337274678
http://mmdks.com/86ko
lol
It's okay if invaders are scary and powerful, but when the fights are just one-sided no matter how much better you are than them it really shouldn't be allowed.
>>337275250
>>337275352
Off topic to thread but I just beat DS1. Should I jump straight to 3? Or will I be miss something from 2?
>>337245406
>Estoc is bestoc
Thanks fellow redditor! Have an up(you)
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Estoc
>friend literally wins every duel with zweihander and parries
Why is it possible to parry from behind? Isn't there some kind of reward for getting behind someone? The backstab animation should override the parry one. He can literally stand there and parry spam.
>>337275496
Try 2. Play 3.
>>337275496
If you have time then finish DS2, but only if you indent to also complete DLC.
It's not that bad as /v/ tell you, it's still a good game.
>>337275658
I wish the backstabs had gotten just removed. It messes with you when you think you're going to land a normal hit on them from behind but then you get stuck in place and have a poor ass attack animation instead that almost never hits them. Even less the backstab actually connecting.
>>337275658
Backstabs can be weird in DaS3. Like if host somehow gets out of backstab range, you'll lock up in backstab animation and then revert to doing a super slow R1. And sometimes it's like if you're even pixel off, it won't let you backstab.
>>337250872
It kinda obvious u don't help with invaders because you're awful at pvp
Whenever I invade and I see cucked phantoms trying to stay out of the fight and let me 1v1 the host I just go for them
I died once so far out of around 10 times this happened. I swear, people who do that are complete fucking dogshit at pvp. I guess I shouldn't be surprised /v/ cucks are all for it
I really want to do a pitchfork and torch build with the workers garb and call it 'groundskeepa' but I'm too lazy to do it right now. Maybe at some point
>>337275934
this pretty much, most people here are bad as fuck at pvp
>>337276006
Thanks for the blogpost anon, here's your (you).
>>337271125
>Be a Grapist.
>Decide it's time to do some graping.
>Invade the Undead Settlement.
>Host is sitting at the first Bonfire with A Sun Bro and a White Phantom, wont leave the fire.
>Decide I can wait him out.
>Birch Branch into a barrel and sitting my happy ass still.
>After 10 minutes of me scratching my ass and crusing /v/, The Sunbro goes searching for me.
>Let him walk by.
>After a bit the White Phantom comes with the host lagging behind a significant distance.
>Let them pass.
>Follow them slowly until they decide to engage the cluster fuck worshipping the giant fire.
>Feel my Claymore getting a +10.
>Come rushing out of the building, two-handing my claymore and nothing else on.
>Drop the White Phantom, whom was at a sliver of Health.
>Sun Bro turns on me to fight, Host tries to flee.
>Claymore is throbbing.
>Roll past the Sunbro and chase down the Host.
>Whisper to myself "This is happening"
>Host turns to fight me.
>Tries to estoc me.
>Dodge around him and land a backstab.
>See the spurting and know I've won.
>Wave to the Sunbro as I leave the world with my piece of Vertebrae.
>>337275662
>>337275747
Thanks
>>337252903
The difference between 27 and 33 is barely 100 health. At 40 you get just 200~ more.
Leveling over 27 is a waste.
>>337276021
What else do you expect from people who think there should be """"honor"""" in invasions
>>337256653
Run at them but instead of doing a running attack, backstab them as they parry.
OKAY GUYS. TIME FOR THE GREAT DEBATE
http://www.strawpoll.me/10188126
>>337276647
There's no debating how shitty your poll is.
>>337276845
;_;
>>337276647
Bit of a mixed feelings, honestly.
It's going to look cool if you're actually good and don't start chugging immediately, but you're just going to look like an edgy 13-year old if you do it and then get absolutely destroyed.
>>337276647
Spread out is the only gesture you'll ever need
>>337276281
t. One-shotted twink
>>337248824
Stay mad shitter. I'm not here to carry your bitch ass.
>>337276647
What's worse:
Dark Sword R1 spammer using legion etiquette
or
DaS 1 Crown of dusk Pursuers spammer using polite bow
>>337276647
Speaking off emotes if you 3v1 gank squad me with your butt phantoms and you needed to drink your estus 10+ times.. before i die, don't emote you look like a fool
>>337277880
Polite bow is the cutest
>>337276647
Shit's gay. Dark Souls 2 gestures NEED to come back.
>>337276647
Any time I see someone use it I just get the impression that they're no more than 15 years old.
>>337263339
oh- sye- rohs
>>337278117
>tfw missed out on polite bow
How the fuck were you supposed to find out? I never summoned NPC phantoms ever, damn. At least there's NG+ I guess.
Can someone tell me what's wrong with estus in duels? Estus is an issue in invasions when you've got phantoms to go through and can easily roll around a corner and heal.
But in duels? The only reason you'd complain is if you play like a turbo pussy, aka most duelers I see.
>fight starts
>spend an entire minute circling each other, both people don't want to approach for some reason
>people start throwing out r1s cautiously
>after they actually land a hit they roll out two times
If you play like that of course estus will be obnoxious, if you actually stick to them like glue its stupidly easy to punish with any two R1 combo. Unless your build is complete shit, estus is almost always a free fucking kill, especially if you have a dirty kill combo weapon.
I mean, without estus, I can just go two blessed weapon, self heal ring, and armor of thorns and win every fight by rolling around for 5 minutes to heal, right? Why is that method OK to heal with, but not sippies, which ACTUALLY encourages aggressive play.
>>337273742
I don't understand the meme of 27 vigor at SL120. What do you even people put all your points into where you don't put more into health?
>>337260265
is that the gargoyle weapon?
>>337280703
At 27 vig, 40 end, 40str/dex I only had 10 points left that I put into vit.
>>337245406
>those predictions shot with pyro
holy shit the jap man is insane
>>337280454
Estus removes all the tension of fighting with a sliver of health left. I'd rather have 4 fights like that, than 1 fight that has the ending delayed by 14 sips
Is Chaos Blade any good? Do you lose health even if you don't hit?
>>337280454
It's mad fun when you're rolling away to drink, but instead turn and parry them
They never see it coming because they're expecting you to drink so they're just spamming the running r1 attack that is extremely easy to parry
>>337281206
Yes.
No but if you ghost hit someone or hit their shield for no damage you still take the damage
>>337280881
What gear and rings do you have that make you want to put more into VIT? Also what class did you start as?
https://battlecalculator.com/dark-souls-3-class-selector/
You can do 39/40/40/40 at SL 120 with the Knight class and 15 VIT is decent enough to use most weapons without being too heavy. You should at least be using the FAP+2 ring too for a little extra carry weight.
I like using the prisoner chain because I don't really notice the extra damage it says you're supposed to take plus it lets me put a little bit of points into attunement and faith just enough to use the sunlight straight sword to use the sacred oath buff at just 11 faith which also lets me use tears of denial.
>>337281146
>estus removes all the tension of fighting with a sliver of health left
You mean the sliver of health that you fell to after 5 minutes of pussyfooting and whittling down each other's health?
Without estus, every fight is fucking attrition garbage.
>>337281715
You've got it backwards. With Estus it's just whoever runs out first. There's no way to punish it, the animation is too quick.
>>337281860
>there's no way to punish it
Your build is ass then, that you can't outdamage estus. Estus can easily let you set up your kill combos too. If you're trying to poke and trade your opponent to death, then yes estus will fuck your estoc/dark sword using ass up.
>>337282405
What? If you got some sick leet 1 shot combo, how did you let your opponent to live through it in the first place?
>>337282593
I said kill combo, not a 1shot combo. IE a meaty 75% health darkmoon blade combo or a greataxe combo or maybe just any fucking spell.
>>337267749
>Farron Legion invader
>as soon as I find the guy they start running towards the giant crabs.
>I turn around and go fight crystal sage.
Not wasting my time faggot.
Just invaded this newbie, I almost feel bad for him. Guess he isn't getting the lord of hollows ending.
>mfw baiting people into point blank mornes hammer WoG for over 800 damage
Never gets old
Also I'm running way of blue with dried finger and I can't even progress to the next area because invasions are so frequent
This is at SL140 too so I'm surprised
What is better; max hp or defense?
whats a good pyro build at 65? been stickin to this level for invading
>>337245406
>>Straight swords are the only viable weapons
>>Estoc is bestoc
They aren't the only "viable" weapons, but they are well above everything else in every aspect
>>337284502
I don't get what's the deal with that pilgrim
I used dark sigils to level up and then he ended up dead and that's it?
>>337284939
New npc shows up, she's the key to one of the four endings in the game, and a really cool character questline.
>No one remembers pre-patch Crystal Ring Shield
>No one remembers pre-patch DWGR
>No one remembers Greatbow backstabs
>No one remembers Havelmoms
>No one remembers pre-patch Fog Ring
>No one remembers pre-patch Hornet Ring
>No one remembers pre-patch fire/lightning
>No one remembers pre-patch Magic Shield
>No one remembers pre-patch Pyromancy
>No one remembers pre-patch Avelyns
>No one remembers pre-patch Monastery Scimitar
>No one remembers pre-patch Hexes
>No one remembers 838 Havel Hexers
>No one remembers pre-patch Santier's Spear
>No one remembers pre-patch Bastard Sword/Mastadon Greatsword
>No one remembers four buffs at once
>No one remembers pre-patch Miracles
>No one remembers Ice Rapier
>No one remembers Helixadons
>>337284619
a larger hp pool is gonna save you more than heavy defense will in this game. but i wouldn't take vigor above 45 because the difference after that is only 56hp. so you may get some extra points for vitality to have both and wear a bit of heavier armor
but that's just me.
>Try a pyromancer build with Witch's Locks
>Terrible at pvp
>Never used a whip before and not much pyro, expecting to lose a ton
>Actually do fairly decent, even winning more than I usually do
>Also fun as hell
I was very surprised.
>>337285296
i remember all of these, including tranquil walk of peace and iron flesh wew lad you're gonna sit there and eat all of my pyromancy until you die and you'll never kill me because I have fog ring and antiquated skirt on
>>337285082
Nobody spawned for me
Or where is it supposed to be at? I didn't find anyone new in firelink
BKGA STRONK
>>337284619
defense is a meme after 20%
see:google reddit
>>337285523
Whips are hidden OP, especially in duels because of their absolutely dumb range.
No melee weapon can even get close to whips without eating shit, and the weapon arte can hit you from a mile away too. Use a whip in a duel and watch your opponent get frustrated as he tries to figure out how to even get close (protip he cant).
I have two refined gems.
I probably am going to refine the Carthus Greatsword because that L2 R2 spin is too much fun, but what else do I upgrade?
>>337285807
In the same passage as where yoel was, only she's standing at the exit.
You needed to level up 5 times, then yoel dies and she spawns.
If you kill the abyss watchers before that, the quest fails, and if you kill him it fails as well. It also fails if you have the firekeeper cure your hollowing.
>>337284502
What level are you invading at the Settlement? I have a level 25 I've been using to harass everyone there. Started knight class I think I put 20 or 25 into luck and then the rest into VIG. I have a +2 hollow barbed sword using armor of thorns. Rings are prisoner chain, knight ring, knight slayer and steel protection ring.
It's so easy killing people using carthus rouge there and since I get like an extra 20 levels from the rings my physical defense is just higher so they do very little damage to me. Even when there is a whole squad it's easy since everyone starts to run when they notice their bleed bar building.
I also ran the game up to the Princes so I have 7 +10 flasks invading. I laugh when they run to heal and have to use 2 or 3 estus to get full HP and I use just the one. From made it so much harder to twink but I'm glad that flasks don't count into upgrade level when matchmaking. I wasn't sure when I upgraded them but decided if they were factored in I would just make that guy into a DEX build.
>>337284939
You have to level up 5 times with him before the NPC shows up so you can continue that questline. I didn't do it on my first playthrough because I felt like a free levelup was gonna fuck me over in some way later in the game.
>>337273245
agreed
no one should be able to reach 1200hp
estus off,str8 swords only, final destination
heh...heh
>embered from killing Gundyr
>heading back through lothric castle, get invaded in the first room
>stretch out next to the dead knights
>phantom runs around for ~5 minutes, passing into the room every once in awhile
>leaves of boredom
>>337286308
I played hide and seek with someone on ps4 while being a Dorkmoon. They changed into a statue and hid near the anor londo bonfire and I spent almost a half hour looking for them. By the time I notice the out of place statue I ran up and stunlocked them to death, they probably weren't expecting me to find them.
>>337273245
the new meta should just be sl1 with +2 max weapons.
has anyone even hit 30% equip load ever? fuck vitality
>>337248824
Reminder that using the black crystal too much gets you softbanned.
Does luck affect frostbite?
NAME THE WEAPON YOU'RE USING RIGHT NOW AND HOW BIG YOUR PEEPEE IS!
Dragonslayer Axe
4.5 inches
:)
>>337286234
I have 10 +2 flasks, I will run through the game to get the swordspear though, I'll respec to that at some point, that shit is gonna be fun.
I'm level 24. I'm using the prisoner's chain, knight ring, chloranthy ring and hornet ring.
I use carthus rouge on the caestus in my offhand if I get any troublesome greatshield wielding anti twinks, but generally it's not necessary.
But yeah, I'm getting 20 levels from the rings and I have more health than most hosts, it's great.
I've already made 3 other characters who I've run through at least the dancer, the armour, oceiros and champion gundyr, just for when they eventually patch the exploit.
>>337287139
Dragonslayer Greataxe
6.5 inches
lol get rekt nerd
>>337287139
BKGA
14feet
>>337287139
dark sword
4 inches
>>337286761
And then you use the way of white circlet to reverse that (in that instance, it's specifically for it). Don't try spreading misinformation.
>>337262974
who said it was fun?
>>337287139
EstocI have a mangina
>>337287139
Havel's greatshield, 7.5 inches.
Why do people use any weapon other than the longsword? I don't get it. You already have the best weapon in the game right there.
This is either bait or you haven't pvped much. Straight swords/estoc aren't that popular and at this point it's just a meme. I'm more scared of fighting laggy GS/UGS with those weird hitboxes than longsword/estoc fags who just spam R1.
Also, if you invade, expect to be ganked, part of the job really. Want duels? Use your red soap stone or gtfo.
>>337287840
Range, AR, moveset? Like, for PvE it's more than adequate but don't you ever get bored spamming R1? It's so fucking boring.
>getting hit by pyromancy
>ever
All pyro projectile is slow as fuck, not to mention those long ass casting time.
Even if the guy is no scoping you still have all the time in the world to dodge even after he cast it.
>>337287139
Gotthard's Twin Blades
7 Inchesbut only when I GOTT HARD
>>337288517
dohohohohoh!
good one lad!
>>337262813
Nothing feels worse than invading with a completely legit or even slightly underpowered build for maximum fun factor only to get beaten to death by a ganksquad.
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