>The success of Street Fighter 5
What did he mean by this?
apparently it sold 1,5 m
instead of the leaked 400k
still low imo
>>337225934
1.5m at this budget sounds like a disaster.
>>337226234
For Sony perhaps. I dont think Capcom suffered greatly, aside from the prestige of the SF name.
>paid evo to keep usf4 out in place of sfv
what did capcom mean by this?
>>337226234
What budget?
>>337225839
He said that basically while the game didn't sell that well among the casual audience it had a really big impact on the FGC scene, with big fighting game tournaments like EVO getting really big numbers of partecipants for the game. He also mentions MKX as the opposite of SFV, a game that sold greatly but didn't have a really big impact on the FGC and the whole e-sports scene.
>>337227942
Mortal Kombat is an overstock game so it could seem like it has success somewhere, i was just browsing shopto yesterday and they have copies of MK9.
>>337227942
Max is a cockbag who doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to MK.
Just stick to shilling your shitty AvP videos, Max.
>>337229984
Are you implying that the MKX competitive scene is alive and well?
>>337227029
dude Sony funded the whole game, meaning they gets money until their investment is paid back. Crapcom is making nothing there.
>>337231680
Wait, did you read their contract?
Is it available somewhere?
>>337225839
What does "Real talk" even mean? And does something like a"Fake talk" exist?
>>337225839
you mean the crapcom/FGC cocksucker is stroking their respective dicks? well color me blacked.
seriously fuck that casual keklord and fuck EVO for booting older Street Fighter games to pimp V because MUH MONEY MUH SPONSORSHIPS
>>337231680
>it's a "my dad works at crapcom" episode
>>337231874
needs a clickbait sounding title that's why it's all caps
>>337231874
no more jokes lets have a serious discussion about this
>>337231874
To speak freely and without pretense.
Is there someone more annoying than Max?
>>337225839
Look at entrant numbers for tournaments, SFV gets triple that of other games.
It may not have caused the third wave of fighting games like 4 did, but it has caused a reinvigoration of the scene while other games failed to
also it gave us Laura
>>337226234
The game barely had a budget, sony had to step in to help
Also I see no way it won't reach 2 million by the end of the year. People getting hype for dlc, story mode and the bigger tournaments will not create a massive boost in sales but it will at least get enough
MaxiShillian.
I guess now that Alien/Predator is old news it's time to jump on the Street Fighter bandwagon
>>337225839
when the most entertaining match-ups are Tokido-Diago Ryu mirrors, you know you're on a winner
Quit shilling this poser.
>>337232537
Simmons.
Anyone with a brain could tell you that would happen
SFV is THE shitter franchise in the FGC and there are massive amounts of people who cannot play anything else.
SF games are guaranteed to pull big numbers no matte how shit or mismanaged the game may be, because these players are too lazy/retarded to ever learn anything outside their comfort zone
>it's a "Maximilian trying to act as an authority on fighting games" episode
This guy is literally just a Markiplier who's not-shit enough to maybe make it out of pools at a tournamentif it's KI or MKX.
>>337232523
Thank you.
>>337232781
He won some Wednesday Night Fights back during Season 1 of KI when Sabrewulf was broken as fuck and the community was all of 12 people.
>>337232537
This guy, the razor necklace manlet, Andre from gamexplain, yong.
However, being slightly better than Max still means you are worse than shit.
The only not annoying people on youtube are Huber, Bosman and Ben from Gametrailers or Easy Allies.
>>337232939
>and the community was all of 12 people.
Oh you mean the height of the community
Why didn't SF5 have a cool intro music like its predecessor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qd0Dc1SOT8
>>337232781
He wouldn't make it out of pools for X.
He'll if anything just stick to commentating.
>>337233168
Man I love this song, it's so damn catchy.
>>337227942
>EVO getting really big numbers of partecipants for the game
Because SFIV was instantly dropped, meaning they had to learn SFV instead to make any sort of career out of FGC in the future. You can easily say the bulk of SFV entrants are players from SFIV who have no choice but to jump games.
>>337225839
I just want to compare viewer numbers between V and IV at EVO. That'll be fun.
>>337233168
Cause we only came to love this song with time, at the time it was a joke
Also it technically does but it was only in nip trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKdbdT9Cgb4
>>337225839
Max looks like a scrawnier Nicholas Cage
>>337232568
>r.mika is censored
>but everything about Laura is fine
I seriously don't understand you, Ono
>>337225839
His argument about Capcom launching SFV incomplete as it was may have been a strategy to extend it's life makes a bit of sense.
If they won't be releasing new versions of the game they can just keep expanding the story mode and add more stuff to the game with new seasons
>his carreer depends on it not sucking
what does your tummy tell you
>>337233525
Don't worry anon, someone understands your plight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orVoE_p13kY
>>337226234
What exactly was the budget spent on?
Clearly not on the single player since doesn't exist
Probably not the graphics since the models and stages don't even look that good
Not the quantity of fighters since there's not that many of them
Netcode can't be expensive since a cheap indie studio like lab zero can afford it
Marketing? Not even close to most AAA video games
>>337233525
Cause Laura is a fine lady
It's probably because the camera shifts onto the butt making a bit more obvious. I really don't believe it was a ratings thing though cause Laura's whore outfit is just something else
>>337232768
>because these players are too lazy/retarded to ever learn anything outside their comfort zone
and because the bog names are still sponsored to play the games, irrespective of how simple mode they are
>>337227563
Why do you think SFV's entrant numbers are so high? Makes the game seem really popular, right?It's definitely not cause SF4 players were fucked if they didn't move to V, no of course not, it's just cuz SFV is *so fun to play* and not at all about maintaining their FGC careers
>Force PS4s on TOs even with the multitude of controller issues
>More people entered into EVO than there are still playing on PC
>Built in 8 frame input lag
Why.jpg
I like the game and it seems like others too, I'm excited for the future updates with more characters and mechanics
>>337226234
It's only 0.4m less than SSFIV did in its life time.
>>337233525
As much as it sounds retarded, this one you can blame on SJWs, after the backlash the buttslap got they censored it, Ono or other Capcom employees may say that it was a design or aesthetic choice, but it's bullshit, it was public pressure that made them censor Mika
>>337233417
Bottom panel hair isn't edited
>>337234007
You know they are able to play other games right? They aren't all forced to play SF and there are many sponsored players who play other shit
I guess everyone who watches SFV on stream is paid as well and they were also paid to buy copies
>>337233578
Actually he literally works for the company that made Killer Instinct. So his actual career benefits from it not doing well.
>>337231437
MK competitive scenes don't exist.
>>337229984
Max is garbage. l agree.
>>337227942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FKxU-3uBLc
good viral marketing, too bad as soon as the viral marketing stopped spamming everywhere, people forgot the game existed
also the empty Kombat Pack dlc and Press X to Buy Goro soured plenty of people on it right away
>SFV
>success
O i am laffin
>>337225839
He's a shill who sucks at fighting games and loves call of duty.
>>337226234
They were aiming for 2mil.
>>337226234
sony paid the game and expected big sales. they were aiming 5m
I don't think anything about this game was a "success". It was a matter of Capcom having to force it down people's throats regardless of how they felt about the game. If you want to survive, you have to trudge on.
>>337234472
source: your ass
>>337234562
>I don't think
That's the problem. You opinion on what isn't a success and what is isn't valid. We're using real numbers here, kid. Buzz off.
>>337234269
It didn't help that both Kombat Packs had 2 guest characters for the casuals to play with for a month and get bored with after
2 literally who cares about this character
Triborg who then got nerfed
Tremor who then got nerfed
>>337226234
Budget?
Maybe in the long term, but the base game is so barebones that I doubt it had a big budget.
>>337234217
>You know they are able to play other games right?
Do you seriously think they will see SF4 being dropped for V and think "oh i guess i'll just throw away my years and years of practice in SF4 and play a different game!"
no, retard
>>337234730
Oh wait I forgot about the lame horror characters.
4 Guests.
>>337234871
i legit forgot about jason and predator being added
you'd think those would've been big news, since Freddy made MK9 pretty popular for a while despite it being kinda shit
>>337234817
Yeah, unlike meleefag everyone else moves on when the next game in the series comes out along
>>337235031
yeah and you will notice a large discrepancy between viewer count on Melee streams vs Smash4 streams. Nintendo at least seem to understand that Melee and Marvel3 draw crowds year after year, because they're actually fun to play AND fun to watch.
Pros make it sound like SFV isn't that fun to play, and the game doesn't seem that interesting to watch, either.
>>337234974
Leatherface is the most forgettable horror character.
Barely seen online nowadays (not nerfed but his moveset is just really lame across the board)
And then there's Alien being a bargain bin baraka.
>>337233168
>people shit on this when it came out
The people who matter like it, the people who don't, don't.
>>337234817
I don't get what you are saying.
>>337225839
I think the game is doing fine.
Sure they were projecting $2M, but they are planning to work on the game in the long run.
Also, I'm sure there are people that have bought the season pass, and there are people that will spend money on costumes.
As much shit as you want to give Capcom, they are actually working on the game rather than stressing out the cash shop. Alex and Guile are still free for the moment, and with this momentum, so will Balrog. I almost have enough fight money to afford 3 characters as well. It's not that much of a grind especially if you do the challenges.
>>337235385
I'm saying if EVO mainstage had SF4 and SF5 together, the number of entrants for SFV would be drastically lower, because they wouldn't need to play V to maintain their FGC careers.
>>337233168
>yfw they played this at Capcom cup
>>337225839
so what about killer instinct? that game has cool DLC and the gameplay seems really good.
>>337235485
Ah i see
>>337235186
So how is SFV drawing more views and players than other games?
Already established they aren't forced to play, and people aren't forced to watch either.
>>337235485
You realise that many players do play multiple games right? And you realised you can be a sponsored player not playing SFV?
>>337233168
I hated this when it came out. But you know, over time I came to realize how fucking awful it truly was.
>>337234243
except they don't care and he's likely not under contract anymore
considering he gets like $200 donations per minute and endless subs i'd say there's a bias
>>337235614
Lets not kid ourselves here.
SF5 is usually around 1500 viewers if no tournaments or events are going on.
Thats still more than all other fighting games though, games like GG or KI have like 20 to 100 viewers most of the time.
This kinda shows you how niche the genre is overall though.
>>337235614
Wow that is the most cherrypicked image of all fucking time
Twitch viewer count is completely random for anything below the top 8 games on twitch. Right now more people are watching a guy play Final Fantasy 1 (4k viewers) than SFV (2k viewers).
I know those stats don't mean anything though, because if a more popular streamer plays SFV then that will jump up in viewer count as well.
>Already established they aren't forced to play
Yes they are, why would they continue to play SF4 if they can't make a career out of it anymore? Whether they like SFV or not is irrelevant, they have to practice and play it because that's the game they'll have to play in future tourneys.
>>337235882
>This kinda shows you how niche the genre is overall though.
lol i guess that's why EVO smash streams get like 200k viewers every year, cuz it's "not a fighting game" so it's not niche like SF hahahaha
>>337225839
>success
first thread ive seen about the game, zero presence on here, reddit or imgur. PC is ded, literally no one playing it
>50/50 neg/positive 5000 reviews on Steam
>rip PC community
I legitimately didn't even know they'd released this until right now.
>>337235882
Yes but it the biggest of the genre
>>337236165
>Wow that is the most cherrypicked image of all fucking time
So it doesn't count any more? The game didn't actually get those views and doesn't when there is a big tournament? Even if you go to twitch now it has significantly more than any other fighting game. So why are these people who couldn't possibly like the game forcing themselves to watch?
>why would they continue to play SF4
You realise there are more fighting games than SF4 and SFV right? And it isn't like no others put on larger events with decent prize money. Yet SFV is still the biggest
>>337236165
Man what is it with smash players trying to force their party game into everything
>>337236165
Pretty sure SF outdid melee last year. Probably will again this year.
>>337236165
>200k viewers
>once a year
Meanwhile thats the number the top 3 games get daily.
Dota2 at their biggest event got 20 million viewers once a year.
So yes fighting games are very niche.
>>337234689
Those numbers are pathetic. They wanted at least 2 million in a month.
>>337235882
But that's wrong.
>>337236907
>2 million in a month
What? I think you mean 2 million in a fiscal year.
>>337237128
What is wrong?
>>337235614
it's more fun to watch shit than playing shit.
>>337237298
On Average it has at least 2000 people watching even with no tournaments.
>>337235031
Brawl and 4 are the Smash equivalent of SFXT (Brawl being SFXT at launch, 4 being SFXT after balance patching, because 4 is essentially a modified Brawl down to having some of the same quirks like DACUS which later got patched out of 4), we never got our SF4 or SF5 equivalent that was vaguely acceptable or arguably good for the competitive community. Sakurai refuses to give Melee players what they want so there's really no reason to move on.
>>337236779
It did, pic related doesn't include another ~25k (I think) for a Japanese SF4 restream. Both did great though and SF5 will probably knock it out of the park this year.
>>337238154
Meant to link to >>337236612.
>>337237539
Watching Street Fighter IV frequently put me to sleep.
Watching V is just plain boring.
So it's an improvement I guess.
SFV sold fine really considering the state it launched in. They'll probably do a relaunch next year with more characters and SP content to get more casuals on board.
>>337238154
>4 being SFXT after balance patching
Actually decent but forever cursed with first impressions and only one version having a shitload of exclusive characters?
>>337238712
I assume they will follow the KI route of once a season is done a boxed version comes out a bit later with everything up till then on it
>>337236603
Don't know. Maybe it's just /v/ and twitch, but smash players in these two places just try to jackhammer it into discussion in the most obnoxious ways and get incredibly defensive over the prospect of someone possibly playing anything else.
