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What would you change on the new starters?


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What would you change on the new starters?
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>>337219000
owl is fine

get ride of the forehead markings on the cat

scrap the seal entirely
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I would stop making Pokemon games.
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>>337219049
The markings together with the eyes are supposed to be this.
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>>337219094
Interesting.

It still makes the cat look like shit though.
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>>337219000
>improvements
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honestly the forehead markings were worse than the whiskers, which are more excusable being the basic anatomy of any cat.
say what you want about it being a tiger etc, but the whiskers and markings make it look overdesigned. OP, if that image is yours, can you do one without the markings?

Also, what >>337219049 said about the other two... actually, i agree with him entirely
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>>337219000

Not much. They're easily the best batch of starters since gen 3. I even like the seal, it just looks bizzare from some still angles. It'll probably look good in motion. Only thing I would change is the over design on the cat. Needs less stripes

Its the evolutions that theyre gonna fuck up
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>>337219094
But I don't want it to become Fire/Rock, adding Rock usually just fucks up designs outside fossils.
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>>337219060
There's at least 5 iterations of every animal ever they will make into a Pokemon so that's not going to happen anytime soon.
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>>337219094
nah, he's just a one star so far. his fur gets sentient as he evolve, and he becomes a naked cat with a jacket in full evo, with a 3 star pattern.
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>>337219000
replace the seal with a deep sea creature, ideally something from the burgess shale.
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>>337219182
>They're easily the best batch of starters since gen 3.
I've seen several people say this, yet I honestly can't believe anyone actually holds this opinion.
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>>337219000
I'd make the beak of the owl completely orange.
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>>337219000

Why do people have a problem with the seal? He's the only good looking one.
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>>337219420
it's the most balanced. It has a burd for cutefags, and "uglycute" water type for girls, and a sickdark edgemaster for charizardrones.
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>>337219446
I fucked with idea a bit in paint, but I kinda liked it more half and half.
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>>337219216
Sulfur also has to do with hell, and hell cats are a kind of youkai I think.
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>>337219515
because oshawott. I just hope it avoids the "it gets bigger" syndrome like the other seals
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>>337219446
the beak bugs me because it looks like an upside down angry eye, like voltorb.
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>>337219573
Bird=Magician
Seal=Clown
Cat=Circus Tiger, Beast Tamer

They all have a circus motif. Final seal will go full clown.
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>>337219226
At first I found it funny. Then I got sad because there are people who would legitimately believe this.
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Owl will be grass/dark
Cat will be fire/poison
Seal will be pure water fat furry bait
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>>337219681
That's odd, because I was getting an islander vibe from the promo video.
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>>337219420
Not that guy, but I can see him actually believing that.

What I however ovserved is how the "Pokemon went to shit in gen [...]" shifted a little further from what it used to be. It's sorta like the Zelda cycle, only that it is a shift, and as new kids grow older they will discover the franchise "ruined" for them at a later point.

I recently read someone replying to an image of all the starters with "you can really see how they started to go to shit in gen 5". I remember people saying that when gen 3 came out, I personally held that opinion with gen 4 for a long time.

My personal ranking of the starters now goes:

4 > 3 > 1 > 7 > 5 > 6 > 2

7 obviously still has potential to rise/sink.

>>337219524
Care to post some results?

>>337219770
Gen 6 starters had a DnD starting class theme, but gen 6 didn't have much to do with DnD.
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>>337219761
how do you come to these conclusions?

Grass/flying and fire/dark looks much more likely from both
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>>337219846
May look a bit shitty, I'm just using paint.
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>>337219846
dnd is medieval, and Europe always has that old school chivalry thing going on in manga. There's that big castle and stuff. It wasn't super deep but overall matched. The circus theme so far works for 3 starters and the 2 legendaries + battles in circle arenas. It's not "in your face" but so far it works.
Probably can predicts some new pokes, like a new horse, and some acrobats
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>>337219884
Not that guy, but I could see grass owl switching its secondary typing, but I guess that's just because I hope it turns into something similar to the owl bosses in Okami, thus becoming grass/steel.

Well, atlesat I can see it getting a monocle and maybe a top hat or a cane.
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>>337219162
>>337219182
I fucking hate you people. Christ it's just a fucking cat.
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>>337219770
http://www.hawaiispace.com/performing-arts.php#.VzMHfCexXqC

>>337219846
The Gen 5 starters had India/China/Japan motifs respectively. East Asia, more closely it was Hindu, Buddhist, and Shinto.

Gen 6 were Warrior/Mage/Rouge. Fantasy motifs.

Gen 7 is Magician, Ringcat, and Clown.


>>337219761
Cat is most definitely Fire/Dark. It has the alchemic symbol for sulfur, which is also known as brimstone. Fire and Brimstone = hell. It's a hellcat. And it'll evolve into a tiger to fulfill the zodiac like the rest of the fire starters. It already has the stripes.

The other two idk, but the current grass type is part flying. And the water might become psychic or something, but idk.
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>>337220221
10/10
the cat actually looks like a Pokemon now.
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>>337220354
God really overdesigned that fucking cat. He's been shit at design since gen 1 though
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>>337219060
came here to say this
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>>337219000
Owl has a good balance between design, colour palette and proportion

cat has too many unnecessary markings too make up for an overly simple silhouette.

Seal has the opposite problem to the cat and its silhouette is just fucking foul, like a frankensteins creation of animal parts.
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>>337220639
>cat has too many unnecessary markings too make up for an overly simple silhouette.
Says as he posts that picture. Stop.
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>>337220221
Hmm, I agree, the beak is now a bit too aggressive in its face. Too colourful, it makes it look a bit like a parrot. It should be a lighter orange, or beige.
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>>337219094
Nintendo putting satanic imagery in their games now.

Also the cat should be orange, not black.
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>>337220479
>Moe actually made the circus better
I knew that corndog was cool.
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>>337220367
>Bird becomes a bipedal humanoid
I want this meme to end.
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>>337220639
The cat is a TIGER you dumb fuck, that's why all the stripes.
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>>337219000
everything.
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>>337220992
>foxes are dogs
It almost works
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>>337220992
except fennekin is a fox
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>>337220992
>Foxes are now dogs
>Echidnas are now rats
>European dragons are now eastern longs
I can't believe we'll have to deal with zodiacfags for another 4 years
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>>337220992
>responding to retarded bait
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>>337219000
This should be enough.
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>>337219000
Something needs to be done about Popplio's mouth. It's just a texture essentially, where it should actually be a moving mandible. It's also in the wrong place. That's seriously what's throwing off his whole design.
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>>337219000
I WANT TO FUCK THAT CAT
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>>337221243
>implying I wasn't using him to cast my own bait

>>337221115
Creative liberties

>>337221201
Sheep
Horse
Snake
Ox
Rabbit

If the gen 8 fire type is something vastly different from this, you win.

The fact that it's lined up so well for 7 gens basically confirms it to be true by now.
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>>337219315
Rock water stater. Any ideas for fossils to reference?
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>>337221410
I actually kinda like that change.
I still hate the fucking whiskers though.
I know the cat's evolution will probably make them look cool, but I really fucking hate them in this stage.
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>>337221538
Ice Age?
Mammoth and Sabertooth

Alternatively, more Jurassic/Triassic dinos would be cool.

A Velociraptor, a Pterodactyl, a Megalodon, or a Triceratops would all be cool.
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>>337219000
I can see they are now completely out of fucking ideas. Jesus christ
the least shit of them is the owl and I'd still never be able to bring myself to pick one. I'm baffled
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Simplicity is key so I only edited a few things and blocked in the colour a little more. The cat just needed more Robotnik in it's design so that was easy, the owl only needed the beak alteration, and the seal needs to go back to formula.
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>>337221804
Pterodactyl has already been done.
Wouldn't mind a triceratops with water that shot out of it's horns.
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>>337219000
Remove seal, put in serpent, make the cat a manticore
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>>337219000
The real issue is they don't look like starters, they look like random pokemon from around the region. I would totally believe that the owl was the pidgey and the cat the rattata of the game

The sealion dog thing is just a horrendous design though, I expect to see many contrarians pushing it
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>>337220367
The designs look like Digimon.
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>>337222179
>The real issue is they don't look like starters
What "looks" like a starter?
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>>337222407
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>>337221918
How is the left one "out of ideas" when the right one is just a burning rat?

Or am I missing a joke here?

If it isn't one, you too will eventually accept that all Pokemon gens have good and bad designs, and that there is no gradual (or even spontanous) drop in quality.
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>>337222407
>>337222461
Everything looks like a Digimon, everything in existence, you, me, /v/. Everything is Digimon.
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>>337221446
But they've already got a fire horse, why would they make another one?
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>>337222457
These
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So where is the new porn then?
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>>337220783
>alchemy symbol for sulfur
>satanic imagery
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>>337219000
Make them less overdesigned
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>>337220221
what did you do to my cute bird!?
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>>337222015
Those whiskers look like shit. I like your change to the owl though.
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>>337220992
fuck off ted cruz
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>>337222015
I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG
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>>337222648
>not wanting to have Robotnik as your starter

There's no hope for you anon

>>337222741
Damn straight.
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>>337222015
jesus, you Adventure Time autists really need to play your own games.
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>>337222614
Turned him into a parrot according to this guy. >>337220734
We both agree though that it didn't look that good.
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>>337222612

well the seal is an improvement at least
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>>337222602
It's a satanic cross.
http://symbolism.wikia.com/wiki/The_Leviathan_Cross
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>>337222942
>implying adventure time invented that look

Your age is showing.
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>>337223078
That's raw as fuck

Might actually have to pick Litten now
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>>337219049
>scrap the seal entirely

Fuck you AND your shit taste.
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>>337222586
It could be a centaur, or centaur-like. It could be many things. It could be like a Qilin and be Fire/Electric, with scales and shit. It could be a mustang to contrast Rapidash's more feminine design. Use your imagination.
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>>337222586
There are multiple Pokemon apes, owls, and bunnies

What's your point
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>>337223078
That's ok, Goat starter will be even more Satanic.
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My problem with modern pokemon designs isn't always overdesign (although they often are), it's that they look fake and plasticky. They look more like toys than animals or monsters. Lots of soft, round anatomy, sharp line designs on the body, and bright colours. Guess it's just changing times and tastes.

I don't really care though because I haven't played a pokemon game since Silver and don't really intend to.
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>>337223634
Whoops, forgot image.
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im not an artist
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>>337223683
>overdesign
you really like that keyword, too bad it has no meaning.
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>>337219000

GOD DAMMIT THE OWL IS LITERALLY FUCKING PERFECT I'M IN FUCKIN GLOVE I WANT TO CUBBLE THAT MOTHERFUCKER UNTIL THE END OF TIMES AND BE BEST FRIENDS FOREVER MY FUCKING MOTHER OF CHRIST
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>>337222520
Nah, everything is a Yokai Watch now.
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>>337223683
>I don't really care though
>enters a pokemon thread
>to bitch about pokemon
>I don't care

Kek.
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>>337223790
>>337223913
Nice rebuttals. May as well have just said "delete this".
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>>337223794
Calm down, tumblr.
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>>337222915
Sorry pokemon is as autistic as I get. I'm not going to sonic depths.
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>>337223993
>doesn't care
>gets pissy because no one took him seriously

Kek
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>>337219000
owl is perfect
Remove whiskers of Cat and modify its eyes to make it look like cat not a talking anime cat.
Give the sea lion claws.
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SNEK IS THE BEST
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>>337222683
I'm actually supporting the one and true God Emperor.
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>>337224320

>Garnish Snake
>Not Journey to the West
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The owl is fine.

The seal looked retarded at first, but then I saw his animations and the artwork of him doing flips and shit and I think his design fits his personality well now.

The cat needs to be scrapped entirely. It doesn't even come off like a starter it looks like this game's Ratata/Sentret/Luxray etc., the colour scheme is ugly, and the striping is really gaudy.
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I honestly think people would stop crying about these designs if Ken Sugimori drew them.
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>>337224785
> the striping is really gaudy.
IT'S A TIGER!!
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>>337223784
Gross
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>>337224176
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Why the fuck would you remove the whiskers.
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>>337225462
Because it looks better?
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>>337225462
Because /v/ gets triggered by them apparently.
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>>337221201
Although a mouse isn't a rat but still.
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>>337225542
>>337225569
OP here, I just think they look silly. Like I said before, they'll probably look good when he's fully evolved but i just don't like them on the starter.
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I think I made the cat look too generic
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>>337225579
So gamefreak is claiming echidnas are mice? Zodiacfags and gamefreak are full retard.
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>>337219000
Gen 3 > Gen 1 > Gen 4 > Gen 2 > Gen 6 > Gen 5

Gen 3 was the only one where all 3 were sick, Gen 1 was just solid as, Gen 4 was meh but inoffensive, Gen 2 was SHIT apart from Totodile who was awesome (inb4 muh Cyndaquil, he's a rat with his ass on fire that turns into a bigger rat with a bigger ass fire, uninspired design), Gen 6 had Froakie who turned into Greninja but the rest were shit (Chespin is battling Chikorita and Snivy for the "worst starter ever" title) and Gen 5 was just shit all around, Tepig was the only even bearable one but even he's meh

This opinion is fact
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>>337219049
someone fucking hire this man
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>>337220221
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>>337225932
You made them look like complete ass
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>>337223276
Nobody likes the Seal.
You have shit taste.
I just got baited didn't I?
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>>337219094
No, the head is an erupting volcano
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>>337219000
I have high hopes for the owl, hoping the evolutions aren't shit. The cat will bail itself out on looking edgy and it'll probably work but the seal will need to pull some major shit out of its ass to not continue down the path of looking like shit
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>>337226729
What if he ends up having the coolest evolutions?
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>>337226776
it's a fucking seal he'll obviously go the walrus route like every other seal of the game
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>>337226973
My guess is that he'll stay a seal, but he's gonna end up with a circus ball somewhere down the line.
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>>337227090
even worse
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I'm glad you niggers are not in charge of designing pokémons. You are stupid.
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>>337226776
Oshawott didn't. He ended up as the worst 3rd stage starter in the entire series.
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>>337219094
stop reposting this every thread, it's not even close to being right
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>>337227316
>worst 3rd stage starter in the entire series.
>implying the Tepig's and Smugleaf's 3rd stage isn't shittier
>implying Chimchar's entire evolution line isn't shittier
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>>337225932
You did that on purpose, didn't you?
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>>337227316
I think you mean Samurott redeemed an otherwise forgettable bland line
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Man, these starters look fucking horrible
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>>337227518
>Chimchar
>not liking the Son Wukong pokemon

Nigga wut? Infernape is top tier!

Now Delphox, never seen a ball dropped as bad as there. Fennekin and Braixen were both GOAT only for it all to go to shit with Delphox.
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>>337224320
They're getting away! Shake harder boy!
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>>337219094
I don't know. I think he's just an angsty teen who's a fan of Tokio Hotel.
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>>337219000
Make the cat bigger or rounder if hat makes sense
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>>337223078
>Satanic
Like pretty much everything ''satanic'' the origin had a completely different symbolism and was later adopted as something else. The Leviathan Cross wasn't at all satanic until Lavey stole it. Same with the S:t Peter's Cross.
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>>337228945
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brownfags are cancer
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>>337225964
>Echidna
I thought it was more of a tenrec.
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>>337223784
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Seal has 2 glaring issues in my opinion
>Snout doesn't look like a part of the head, looks like someone glued a cone onto its face
>Entire lower body consists of round blobs that are all one colour
There a few other issues but those are my main gripes. Have this shoddy edit I made yesterday.
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>>337230887
It looks better, but it can't save this god awful design. At least they could have given him some decent flippers. Holy shit.
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>>337219000

JUST
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>>337219049
Owl is good.

No.

Go fuck yourself. The seal looks fucking perfect as a Pokemon.
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>>337219049
>getting rid of best girl
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>>337220431
Kill yourself retard
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>>337219000
>owl
Give him feathers, make him less of an egg, put actual detail into that leaf so it's not just a single fucking color

>cat
Looks okay, maybe accentuate the fur that's supposed to be on its body

>sea lion
End it's poor existence via lethal injection
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>>337230887
I like your design a lot, but i did away with the ears entirely
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I would throw them all in the dumpster, holy shit. I thought they were improving with gen 6 too.
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>>337219846

>4 > 3 > 1 > 7 > 5 > 6 > 2

your opinion about Gen 6 is scharbage.

1 > 3 > 4 > 6 > 7(for now seriously the circus seal is holding it back until evos are revealed) > 2 > 5

I do agree with you though about Gen 2 though. Pure type gens are worst gens for starters and people give gen 2 a free pass too much because MUH NOSTALGIA. Chikorita is WORST GRASS STARTER EVER and Totodile/Cydaquil are okay to mediocre at best. Even Gamefreak doesn't care about Johto starters considering how long it took for egg moves and hidden abilities to make them passable but still shit compared to their peers.
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The cat is literally perfect though
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All these edits really make me appreciate the original designs.
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>>337231761
>appreciating that blue abomination made of nothing but beaver tails
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>>337231761
Yeah, you guys can't design for shit.
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>>337220367
>India
The pattern on the Snivy line's leaves is literally a fleur de lis
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>>337228945
>>337231283
How already

>>337231643
>Chikorita is the worst grass starter
Wouldn't that make her full stop the worst starter then? Seeing as the other "worsts" are probably Snivy and Chespin, I don't see who else could be the WORST. Oshawott? I'd still say Chikorita is worse. The only starter which just got worse with every evolution.
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>>337231931
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Say what you want but Popplio is hot as fuck
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>>337219000
Make em less faggy
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>>337226742
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>>337219049
it is a tiger. it is supposed to have stripes.
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>>337219000
Owl is acceptable
Remove cat's whiskers, swap the charcoal for a muted red-brown and the red for a dark tan brown
Remove seal's ear things and nose bobble, round off its muzzle, remove the white stripes from its front flippers, add a white patch on the belly and make the whole thing a few shades lighter blue
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>>337222612
We abstract now
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>>337219000
>Removing the Eggman 'staches
Kys
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simplified the overly-complex designs
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>>337232827
>that owl booty
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>>337231635
but circus seals HAVE ears.
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>>337232827
this nigger gets it
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>>337232827
remove cat nose and pupils
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>>337219681
Final seal will be a juggler, juggling things made of whatever its sub-type will be.
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>>337231635
Wait
is the snout on the original meant to be like a party hat?
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>>337233370
yes
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>>337233175
also flipped it over and created what may be the greatest pokemon in history
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>>337225187
Give the owl a normal beak and it's good. The seal cannot be salvaged.
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>>337232239
I think you're underestimating just how shit Oshawott is. It's literally the whole package
>looks retarded
>evolutions are disappointing
>completely useless
>no redeeming factors whatsoever
At least the Chikorita line is cute, Serperior gets Contrary and Chesnaught has a passable movepool
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>>337232827
HENSHIN
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>>337233370
Probably. The nose is supposed to be the stupid ball that circus seals use to balance on their nose.

>designer thought this would make a good design
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>>337219000
autistic clown seal and bikini jew owl both get scrapped

shit cat is somehow the best and it's just a cat with a retarded color scheme

but pokemon designs have been fucking retarded for years now so only weebers are gonna be into this garbage. isn't there a board for pokemans?
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>>337233631
sorry meant to say robotnik shit cat*
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>>337222589
the 2013 look out of place. please remove.
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>>337233548
GATTAI DA
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>>337233490
I'd personally pick Chikorita as the worst

The cute ends at Chikorita, neither Bayleef nor Meganium are cute. And Chikorita's cuteness is made a little creepy considering 87.5% of them are male; it just doesn't work as well. Plus, Samurott>Meganium so I think overall Chikorita is a shittier starter

It's really hard to defend Oshawott but I'd say he had everything redeeming that Chikorita did plus a slightly better Evo line
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>>337233456
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>>337232827
Yo dude
I think we should go back a fix the old overdesigned mons
I already fixed one of the worst ones
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>>337233934
now insert it back onto the cat as the head
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>>337221201
I would argue that Cyndaquil is partly based on a Kaso, which are fire rats (and blah blah blah their pelt is used to make fireproof garments like ones used in Kaguya's lore)
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Popplio's eyes bother me the most somehow

would it be better with eyes like this fake leak?
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>>337233982
good idea

here's another major offender
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>>337234295
No, those eyes only look good on super-small Pokemon like Dedenne.
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Why do people keep saying circus? I get it It's a clown seal but wouldn't street performer fit better?

Hawaii always had street performers which can be similar to the circus and there's often clowns at those. I think that works way better then circus.
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>>337234778
because it's clearly based on a circus seal
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>not being a tridort
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>>337234604
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>>337235028
Not bad
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>>337234135
fucking damn this is a good design although it's just a rip off of charizard
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>>337235028
looks like last gen's frog starter
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>>337234295
These designs are 100 times better than the real starters. They just look like neopets is all.
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>>337235043
Which can also be a street performer.
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Starters aside what are you hoping for

>Grass/Fire Pumpkin

Fuck Pumpkaboo/Gourgeist, having two Grass/Ghost types together is dumb
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>>337235319
>no carrot pokemon
>no pepper pokemon
>no corn pokemon
>no potato pokemon
>no strawberry pokemon
>no apple pokemon
>no cauliflower pokemon
>no watermelon pokemon
why do they hate healthy food so much?
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>>337235508
>Grass/Fairy corn loli waifu hiding her face behind her corn husks, with pink silk hair

y/n
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Is there a chinchilla poke yet?
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>>337235915
Two
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You're welcome, Game Freak.
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>>337236050
Thanks. I don't keep up anymore.
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>>337235319
Dark/Fairy Imp

Water/Dragon (fossil) Basilosaur

Poison/Dragon Hydra legendary
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>>337236227
>a fossil not being part rock

it's literally a rule even if rockness isn't even mildly part of their design.
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>>337235319
A bug/fire or eletric/bug pokemon based on a Lampyridae
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>>337235319
Grass/Ghost Scarecrow pokemon with a Pumpkin head
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>Getting rid of the main body part of what makes a cat, a fucking cat

>Forgetting that seal lions have whiskers too

Are you a fucking bitch?
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done
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fixed that eyesore named onix
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>>337220992
>>337221195
>>337221201

Fox's are considered canines
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>>337236982
weird how Onix is still pretty unique, you'd expect "animal made out of boulders" to be an easy way to make rock types.
elementary snakes too, if you take it the other way
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fix this over designed piece of trash please
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Litten's whiskers are because it burns it's body parts, that's what it's description says

It's an exaggeration just like Meowth having a giant coin in his head

seal lions have whiskers, even in birth, are you fucking retarded?
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>>337219000
thank godness youre not a designer at Pokemon, your changes are shit, taking away the whiskers an animal that it is based on have it, ill take away your fucking eyebrows and call it an improvement, but it doesnt mean that the improvement isnt shit, youre just missing part of your anatomy
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>>337237282
>Litten's whiskers are because it burns it's body parts, that's what it's description says
it's probably going to get bigger as it evolves, and represent something related to its theme. Like a fire circle, or a whip.
sould also become bipedal too because circus lions are often on their 2 in photos as part of the tricks.
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>>337235050
I got a reasonable chuckle out of this. Then lost it when I saw the image name. The world needs more people like you.
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>>337229437
i'd agree if you actually put effort into it.
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I am not an artist.
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>>337237470
>thank goodness youre

Are you fucking twelve years old?
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fixed for the meme audience x-d
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>>337222915
>It's quite chilly out!
I think he meant "It's quite chilly, dog!"
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>>337236441
Isn't that just Volbeat/Illumise
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>>337236601
Potentially Mega Gourgeist
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>>337219000
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>>337239124
I forgot about them, they are such a wasted potential
Also, a robot pokemon based on a car or a motor would be pretty cool
/vp/ made something similar on a thread where everyone add a little details on every post, the result was pretty good
http://m.imgur.com/a/PvwNX
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>>337237126
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>>337219094
You're autistic.
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>>337240631
Please give him realistic eyes, no anime bullshit.
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>>337237282
>Take a sea lion like in this image
>take out its bone structure and color it blue
>Stick a party hat on its nose
>Call it a pokemon

Gamefreak's design process.
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>>337235319
>Ghost/Fighting shadow boxer with Technician
>Poison/Psychic or Poison/Fairy "evil meloetta"
>Fire/Bug ant
>Bug/Dark roach that evolves into a roach colony
>Grass/Fire chili/lizard with chilis on it
>Normal/Ghost something. anything
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>>337235232
You got it backwards anon, those fakes are neopet garbage as all hell.
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>>337233548
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Guy who fixed gayrados here
I made another fix on one of these overdesigned pieces of shit
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>>337240754
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>>337241860
What the fuck are those frills and ears for? Get the fuck outta here.
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>>337241860
Still looks too much like a digimon, this design is much better.
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>>337242085
Two many colours
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>>337241914
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>>337235319
Ice fire mon?

How does dat work?
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>Pokemon designs can be improved by REMOVING thing from them
>Every takes things off of them, no one in the entire thread attempted to add more to them

hahaha, oh wow. Nintendo is fucking delusional and out of touch with what fans want.
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>>337243182
It will sell plenty.
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>>337219000
Put an image if the main female protag design on all fours getting fucked hard by the cat thing sucking off the seal looking thing and giving that bird looking thing a handjob as the cover art to the game.
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>>337243707

I feel bad for that pupper. It never asked to be born into what it was ;_;7
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>>337243707
DELETE THIS
PUPPER IS FRIEND
NOT FOR BULLY
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>>337219000
Why is the cat a kiznaiver
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THICK
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>>337245000
That's not thick, you fucking BBW fetishist.
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REMINDER THAT EVERYONE WILL PICK LIT CAUSE LE NEKO MEME.
REMINDER THAT LIT IS THE WORST BUT EVERYONE WILL CHOOSE IT.
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>>337219000
Why are they all so round?
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>>337245479
perfect
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>>337245479
I'm fine with the whiskers as they are but this is the first edit of them that actually looks good.
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>>337245479
are people so dense to not see that the mustache will be the pokemon gimmic?
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>>337245795
I don't want a mustache cat
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so I might be retarded but what's the source of Rowlet's name?

Owlet + ??????
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>>337245479
Did you somehow miss Squirtle, Cyndaquil and others, or....?
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>>337246086
it's Row and Omlette because it's shapped like an egg.
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What do you guys think the sealion's final evolution would look like?

A Sea lion that's water/fighting?
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>>337245139
On the contrary, my fellow THICCster. That anon's pic a fine example of some prime thick.
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HIRE
I
R
E
ME NINTENDO
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>>337225579
except cyndaQUIL is a porcupine emphasis on the QUILL.
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>>337219000
Just get rid of the damn seal, the other 2 are fine to me otherwise. Though Litten is a real dumb name to me.
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>>337240102
>Volbeat
>Wasted potential

But Prankster wrecks shit. Tail Glow and Baton Pass to turn someone else into a killing machine, plus Encore or Thunder Wave can totally fuck over most other leads
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>>337220367

this seal is the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen
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>>337246086
Round Owlet you fucking idiot.
I'm naming mine Sphericowl
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people see the owl as a amgician, but with its head twist it could be an acrobat. birds walk on wires all the time
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>no reptile starter this gen

Feels pretty bad, man.
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>>337219049
The owl looks weird to me. Is it holding an egg or something?
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>>337247107
meh
these are the types of sets that only work against people that have no idea about what that thing can do or the ones that are bad at the game, like the pachirisu on the world championship
that thing was pretty much a amoonguss but worse
also, i was talking about design. Volbeat/Illumise are pretty ugly
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>>337249090
It's a knife thrower.
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>>337223784
never design anything again in your life please
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>>337249143
You've had more than enough reptiles through the entire series.
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>>337228812
>St. Peter's Cross.
That one is particularly annoying
In an act of submission and devotion Peter asks to be crucified upside down so as not to presume himself equal of Jesus. Thus an upside down cross becomes an important symbol in the church
Then Satanists steal it and make it a shitty edgelord meme because upside down means bad
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>>337252558
There weren't any reptile starters last gen either.

I mean, amphibians are okay, but not the same.

Hopefully, there'll be a cool lizard in there somewhere.
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>>337253038
I'd be surprised and disappointed if there wasn't a Poison/Dragon Komodo.
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>>337220992
Charmander is a salamander not a dragon
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>>337222589
>Pokemon is 20 years old
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>>337253567
>Pokémon is older than the average age of its fanbase
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Here you go desu senpai
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>>337219000
>Take flared whiskers off the cat
>Take whiskers off the sea lion
>nubben the owl's beak
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Just some small tweaks.
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>>337219000
I wouldn't sacrifice design to make a shape. I wouldn't use attrocious offsolid colors for them. I wouldnt make the primary detail of the water one have nothing to do with the creature it is.
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Anyone else besides me actually like the seal?
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>>337256804
Yea every hipster contrarian faggot that realized that everybody would like the owl started liking it last night.
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>>337256649
>mary detail of the water one have nothing to do with the creature it is
are retarded?
>>337257084
the options are:
>a owl that was turned into a meme by /vp/ before it was even a think
>a generic cat the have no appeal other than pandering to furries
>a circus seal
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>>337256804
It's grown on me. I'm curious to see where the line goes.
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>>337219094
just shut the fuck already. You're that annoying kid that is obsessed with some bullshit no one cares about, but keeps seeing refferences or symbolism about it everywhere and tries to shove it into everyone else
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>>337254267
this popper I can get behind, that pink nose is fucking ridiculous, and I hate anything to do with clowns
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>>337222520
It's probably the work of the enemy's Yo-Kai!
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>>337257451
>IF YOU LIKE THE CAT YOU'RE A FURRY!!

your life is a meme. reconsider it
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>>337235050
r34 when?
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>>337219000
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>>337233934

I think we can all agree that this targets pokemon's general audience better
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>>337246613
No. You fatfags are trying to hijack the term.
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>>337219000
>ruining designs
take your bait elsewhere
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>>337256027
dude what
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>>337254267
Original owl is better but i agree with the rest
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make the water starter a fish and evolutions are a fish developing legs
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>>337219000
>What would you change on the new starters?
Bring back gen1 starters.
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>>337219000
owl is too based
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>>337219000
Nothing

The cat and owl are great. The seal is retarded as hell but some people like him so that's fine. They're better than like the past 2 gens of starters so that's a plus
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>>337236870
if the water starter turns to this guy, I would like it better
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>>337234295
>posting neopets
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>>337223078
If you're going to reference something, at least give that reference a read through first
>>
someone, please fix magmar

he is too overdesigned
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god damn /vp/ is probably even worse than this fucking place. i just got back from that hellhole. after stealing their art.

don't get me wrong, this place is still fucking bad.
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>>337219000
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>>337265117
>make a beak less beak-like
>removing stripes from a fucking cat
>blue nose
Awful.
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I think they're all really cute. I'm confused with the seal hate.
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I wouldn't. I love all three and they're the best starters since Gen 4.
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>>337265682
It's because he looks silly. Which is entirely intentional, because he's a clown, and clowns are supposed to be funny.

But /v/ hates silly things because Pokemon is serious business.
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>>337231032
The owl looks so fucking cute
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the cat looks like Stalin's incarnation
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>>337264354
>their art
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>>337265857
I hope more pokemon have some adorable animations like this in battle
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>>337246086
Root
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>>337229437
Litten looks much better without the whiskers, but now it just looks like a normal cat with some red fur
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>>337266310
I want to lick and suck those paws
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>>337266446
kill yourself you degenerate fucking furfag
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>>337266446
I want to be Litten's pawslave
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>>337266446
>>337266564
It's time for suicide, guys.
>>
liking any of these starters means you are one of the following:

genwunners
johtoddlers
sinnohfetuses
unovabortions
kalosperm
alolasomes
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>>337266558
>>337266687
>He wouldn't suck on Litten's paws
>>
The owl is literally perfect, probably the best starter Pokemon ever
That little round fucker in his little grass bowtie looks fly as hell.
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>>337266775
i left out hoennbabbys
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>>337266687
>not l.icking Litten's musky paws
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>>337266895
would you kindly kill yourself
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fixed
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>>337266854
>fly
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>>337265682
He's the odd one out. His design is unremarkable and largely forgettable, while the owl has ridiculous cuteness on it's side and the cat has furfags plus the people who ALWAYS choose fire regardless with it.
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>>337267170
Maybe next time. I'm too busy making enough money to satisfy my libido and continue shitposting
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>>337267481
The cat is cute. The owl is cute.

The seal is ugly
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I don't care what you think about my opinion but modern Pokemon designs look like fucking shit. I'm glad I gave up on this series.
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>>337267235
Exept for owl in a fucking bra I like it.
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The question here isn't about changing the starters. That implies we have something to work with here.

You have to scrap all 3 of them. Except maybe the owl. But the owl grows on you for reasons other than what the real reason should be. So its a misleading attraction not cultivated from true appreciation of a good pokemon design.

So probably also get rid of the owl.
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>>337267170
>>337267501
>you will never EVER coat Litten's paws in your cum
>you will NEVER lick them clean afterwards
why even live?
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>>337236819
I like the whiskers
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>>337267583
There you go. Summed up.
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>>337267583
>>337267481
They're all cute.
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>>337268085
Yeah I really like the ones this time around. Owl moreso than the others but they look fine.
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>>337268085
The Owl and Cat are, that seal is atrocious though to me.
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You will choose me, right anon?
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>>337268657
Seal is cute.
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>>337268657
What's wrong with the seal?
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>>337234295
What the FUCK these look amazing
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>>337268714
It's going to turn into a clown. It's oshawott 2.0
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>>337268714
I can't really explain it, it just simply looks really ugly & unappealing to me, far from cute.
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>>337236819
Whiskers A+
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>>337220992

Here's my question

How the fuck are they going to do the fire horse without completely ripping off Ponyta?
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>>337220221
Jesus, it's amazin what a minor change of color can do for a design.
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>>337261752
I want to crush it with a hammer
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>>337219216
>which is spiritually analogous to the human soul

Fire/Dark or Fire/Psychic. Fire/Ground or Fire/Poison are also possibilities.
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>>337219000
Their types.

Why does it always have to be grass/fire/water? You could get the same rock paper scissors effect by making them, say, fighting/psychic/dark

I'm supposed to believe that every continent in this fictional world comprises of the same elemental animals at the start of their numerical databases?
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>fire
>water
>grass

why not something else.
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>>337219000
I think the designs are already simple enough, honestly in some ways simpler than even the Gen 1 starters like Bulbasaur and Squirtle. I don't get why people act so allergic to more colors and occasional frills in the designs.
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>>337219000
Shrink their heads a bit. The cat in particular is about 60% head at the moment. I get that the starters are supposed to be children, but that cat shouldn't even be able to walk around.
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>>337269284
>>337269329
Dark is immune to psychic you fucking retard.

The types are always those because it's easy for new players to figure out how types work. "Grass beats water beats fire beats grass".
It takes a dead ant's brain to figure it out. Why do you care anyway? They have secondary types often, last gen we exactly had fighting/psychic/dark.
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FLYING GRASS STARTER THAT'S AN OWL

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
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>Grass/Flying

So boring.
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>>337266310
I want to fuck that cat
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>>337269554
Ironic how you posted that, the cat Pokemon with the biggest head of all.
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>>337268985
By making it shit of course
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>>337269554
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>>337267845
its a fucking cat anon you can just adopt one and then rape it
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>>337269598
Dark beats psychic, psychic beats fighting, fighting beats dark.
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>>337269380
>shinji
>edgy
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>>337245000

That's my kind of change
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>>337220992
I wonder how long untill theyre forced to do rabbit, rat, and sheep
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>>337220783
>now
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>>337219000
everything
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>>337245479

Because it's easier to animate them that way.
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Here's how we fix Litten
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>>337269998
Half of those characters aren't edgy, that's the joke.
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>>337270101
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>>337269981
Fire>Grass>Water also works in reverse, since they resist each other. Dark/Psychic/Fighting doesn't.
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>>337220992
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>>337269380
>Demoman
>Ocelot
>Ryuuko (she was edgy for like, 10 seconds tops)
>Faith
>edgy

Pls.
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I haven't played Pokemon since the first game when I was a kid. The owl looks kind of cute though, maybe I should see how these games are now.
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>>337268694
Now I'm going to name my owl Todd
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>>337270239
Here's how we fix the Owl
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>>337270197
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>>337270239
i don't even know if this is an edit or not
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>not picking the cat and naming him Senkatsu

What is wrong with you?
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>>337227515
>>337258838

>being this butthurt about something true
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>>337269998
>>337270324

woosh
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>>337270239
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>>337219000
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>>337269827
>>337269718
Yeah, I know, but Meowth is a comedy design. The starters are supposed to be a bit more iconic.
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>>337256027
holy shit dude lmao dude
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>>337270860
It's not even that big of an head for a kitten. Meowth's is gigantic in comparison. Not that big head is new for starters even. Of first gen only Charmander has a decently proportioned head. From then on every single starter has been big head and big body.

tl;dr: you're complaining about something that isn't even there
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>>337270391
I fucking died
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>>337270837
Put Graphix cat on the fire one.
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>>337256804
It's ok, but easily outclassed by the other two.
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I tried to take inspiration from earlier gens but I was using my laptop track pad so its not great.

The eyes came out a bit souless, but you get the idea.
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>>337269380
>Still no Kaito
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i feel like I made things worse
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT

LOOK

AT

MY

GODDAMN

SHITTY

REDESIGNS
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Hating the seal is just an overly hyperbolic bandwagon meme, correct?
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>>337272067
Yep, same as the "owl is cuck" meme that died the day it was born.
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>>337256027
I know they're supposed to look retarded but I like the smug Garfield over lame anime cat.
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What's with all these people removing their defining characteristics and then calling them improved when all you're really doing is making them less unique?

This is like those Yooka Laylee redesign threads all over again.
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>>337272608
Gimmea drink, bar ten durr.
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>>337272387
>hating on smugleaf

shit taste
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subtle but makes them look so much better
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>>337272750
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>>337272608
People took the "muh simple designs" meme too far
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>>337272750
Is this a trick? Did you actually change something?
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>>337272387
>Disliking Mudkip
>Disliking Smugleaf
No
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>>337272387
>hating Chikorita
>hating Mudkip
>hating Treecko
>hating Smugleaf
>liking Tepig
>liking Chimchar

Kill yourself
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>>337269380
Where's Emile?
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>>337261752
BAD DOG
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>>337272750
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So we can all agree on that the cat looks better without the whiskers, right?
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>>337270197
I completely agree except for one thing, I like sawk.
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>>337272750
I like it.
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>>337273713
Honestly it'd be better if the whiskers just weren't so big.
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>>337274024
This
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>>337272573
What's an anime cat?
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>>337238296
This fucki BFF meme.
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>>337219000
Nothing.

You insufferable faggots are blowing it out of proportion again. They're perfectly fine, not perfect, but they look alright.
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>>337220221
>>337219000
>>337221410
>>337222015
>>337225187
>>337225932
>>337229437
>>337231635
>>337236819
>>337239921
>>337246625
>>337254267
>>337265117
>>337267235
>>337272041
>>337271959
phew, im glad none of you fucktards actually are in charge of creating those pokemon.. that would be absolutely terrible
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>>337274024
but that's LITERALLY the pokemon trait. why not remove pikachu red cheeks when you are at it?
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>>337256027
>not just flipping owl eye upside down
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>>337219000
Don't tell me the owl is earth type.
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>>337274934
The trait is the whiskers in general I would say, they just over did the size a bit. Not that it looks terrible otherwise, it's still pretty alright unlike the seal.
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>>337275134
Grass/Fly actually
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>>337219000
I fixed Litten
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>>337219000
remove litten

the others are fine
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>>337274902
ok attention whore
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>>337275314
that sounds a little Farfetch'd
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>>337236819
>water starter japanese version and american version
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>>337275335
It looks a gen 2 pokemon now.
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>>337274507
Wow it is a similar animal with a radically different design, it's not even the same animal

There are so many dragons they got their own type
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>>337275335
Nah, I think there's room to improve. Here's my take on it.
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>>337219060
This tbqh famalam
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>>337276336
It's head is too big
And what the fuck is that white tuff? It's too over designed.
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>>337276336
dude is this a leaked NX version of sun & moon?
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>>337276336
Remove those fucking anime eyes
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>>337221115
>Fox, any of various members of the dog family (Canidae) resembling small to medium-sized bushy-tailed dogs with long fur, pointed ears, and narrow snouts
http://www.britannica.com/animal/fox-mammal
>>
>I'm a better monster designer than the real ones because I can remove shit.
You made them worse
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>>337276336
>Big ass head
>Dumb 2 big ears
>More than 1 color
>All of those whiskers
Too much going on in that design, Anon.
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>choosing wimpy cat
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For starters, Give them an actual FITTING COLOR SCHEME.
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>>337277205
Thanks, Treehouse
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>>337219000
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>>337277629
Shinies, anon.
Have faith.
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>>337219000
They need larger dicks
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>>337272067
You've got
>One group that genuinely doesn't like it.
>One group that hates it because everyone else is doing it
>One group that likes it just because everyone is hating it
>One group that actually liked it
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>>337269380
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>>337278654
1/10 for effort, but autistic as fuck.
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>>337278654
>not shaping the cat's tail into a demon tail or pitch fork
8/10
>>
>>337219000
If anything the cat looks out of place, just fix the colour palette.
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>>337223723
Alakazam
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fix'd
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>>337269329
MADMAN
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>>337278654
the cat should've been kept the same
>>
>>337219000
I actually like the fire type without the whiskers.
>>
>>337219000
>changing anything about cat

nope. go fuck yourself
>>
>>337279565
significantly better
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>>337219000
pokemon's dumb obsession with putting stripes, tattoos and bullshit on all their characters
>>
>>337280437
>A DARK BLUE water starter
>A RED dominant fire starter
>A grass starter that ISNT green dominant

That on its own is a crime that needs to be seriously adressed.
>>
>>337280621
The tail is a bomb wick you dummy, you'll kill us all
>>
>>337220783
Go back too /x/
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>>337276336
>You gotta use your witch powers, Sabrina!
>Just point your finger and solve the problem already.
>Witches and warlocks are actually aliens.

God that show got really fucking stupid near the end.
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>>337219162
>>337219681
>>337220367
>>337220992
>>337224942
>>337232575
>tiger

His name is Kitten with an L at the start. He is a Liger Kitten
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>>337222589
Cyndaquil isn't red! This frightens and confuses me!
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>>337281062
It's a lit kitten
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>>337281062
Wait, I'm gonna sound like a fucking idiot but do ligers actually exist?
>>
>>337281719
No, that's just a clever shoop, this one too

:^)
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10k hours in mspaint
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>>337281062
No it's Leopard Kitten. That's why it's black
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>>337219000
So is the game based on hawaii/california?
>>
>>337281719
Did you really think Napoleon Dynamite would lie to you?
>>
>>337282192
only Hawaii
why would you ever think California?
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>>337223078
>This glyph is often referred to incorrectly as the “pontifical cross of Satan” by Christian tract writers, due to its adoption as an emblem of Satanism by Anton LaVey in the 1960s. The emblem has no history as a symbol of Satanism outside of LaVey’s usage, and the attribution is most likely a product of anti-Catholic sentiment, as it is often compared in this context to the Catholic Pontifical Cross
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>>337280621
Kill yourself, you colossal retard.
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>>337282597
>I told you! I spent it with my uncle in Alaska hunting wolverines!
>Did you shoot any?
>Yes, like 50 of 'em! They kept trying to attack my cousins, what the heck would you do in a situation like that?

Yes.
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>>337281062
Litten = Lit + Kitten you dummy
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>>337283063
So this will be his final evolution?
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>>337282780
Since ruby/sapphire was mostly based on Hawaii, I figured they wouldn't go with it again
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>>337283326
That was based on Kyushu in Japan
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>>337283326
Actually, most of the regions of the Pokemon games are based off areas of Japan
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>>337270675
saus on this? i tried iqdb, saucenao, google, and even searched for the filename but only got your posts in the archive
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>>337284052
you sick fuck
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>>337238378
Underrated post.
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>>337284242
hey it's not like i want to like cute kemonos or anything, it's just a guilty pleasure is all
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>>337283815
They've got like, half the country left that they could have used. Stop appropriating our culture, Japan!
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>>337269380
>black and red = edgy
for what purpose?
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>>337284341
Is there any logical reason why you would fucking say that post is underrated? Has anybody expressed any kind of dissatisfaction or criticism at all against it? Are you delusional? Are you reading replies that are nonexistant? Maybe you come from communities with voting systems, but there is literally no way that you could know what other people think of that post you just replied to here. Maybe it's psychological. Maybe it's your own post you're replying to, like a 12 year old fucktard liking his own facebook posts thinking his swelling autism is going unnoticed. Maybe your self esteem depends on you tricking yourself into thinking someone out there thinks your post is worth something. Or maybe you are just a retard, the worst kind of retard, the one who thinks he's smart, the one who thinks he's the only one to have gotten the joke, to have understood the post. Well, guess what, faggot, that post is under no definition underrated so why don't you do the world a favor and go check out what the bottom of your toilet smells like?
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>>337284617
Wow that was rude, pastapal :^(

And pretty underrated as well, if you ask me.
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>>337269380
>Two ocelots

why?
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>>337284913
shut up
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>>337278654
The owl actually looks kinda cute
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>>337284531
>Angry Hawaiian
>Not some fatass asian
Honolulu fag here. They've got it mistaken.
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>>337285056
Make me, fagget.
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>>337222503
>Rat
>long snout
>no tail
>fire backspine

Yeah, just like the rats I see in my home,
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>>337285134
ok
>>
I thought Japan hated Hawaii.

They hate Hawaii so much that they never got Lilo and Stitch, Disney had to make a show starring a Japanese girl with Stitch instead.

So why in the fuck did they set a pokemon game there?
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>>337284617
underrated post
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>>337242524
my sides

Why the fuck does it have tits and toe claws though?
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>>337221918
>a cat on fire is out of ideas
>but a porcupine on fire is amazing
Kill yourself.
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>>337271929
kaito was right
>>
WATER COLOR PAINTINGS WHEN
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