Now that Stellaris is a massive blunder what hope is there for space games?
t. soon-to-be-jobless Actjewvision shill
>>337199780
Endless Space 2?
New Master of Orion?
Stars in Shadows?
Remnants of the Precursors?
BTW Did you notice that space in trendy again?
More movies, games and PR science(Elon Musk etc)?
Guess who is behind this and where tax money gonna disappear?
>>337199780
seems to have a lot of players for a blunder
were the sales really that bad?
>>337199780
What? User reviews are positive
>>337200712
the game itself is a barebones badly optimized piece of shit and is very limited in what you can do because they're almost assuredly releasing more features as DLC
>>337200712
Paradox claims it's their highest seller.
Fuck if I know. They've been turning into shit.
>>337200824
what does that have to do with blundering?
if you use buzzwords use them right you fucking idiot
>>337199780
Why is it a blunder? I played 20 minutes of it and I had fun. I didn't really get what I was doing though.
Plus it sold over 200,000 copies in 24 hours, its hardly a blunder, people all over the web are calling it a massive success.
>>337199780
Speak for yourself OP. Im 12 hours into a hard mode game and having a blast.
ADD autists cant stand the mid game where you are politicking and building up your empire. Same people who quit Civ 5 after they finished exploring the map and then got butt fucked by napoleon.
It's entirely average yet I'm still wasting hours playing it.
THE ZERG WILL SWARM ON ANY XENO CUNT INA BLUE UNIFORM
>>337201259
>>337201145
give tips
>small galaxy
>explore few neighborhood systems
>science ships starts getting raped by electric clouds and other weird shit if i want to move futher
Are they on larger maps as well this soon? Sendind the starting ships against them seems like huge waste considering the power diference and researching something decent takes forever.
>>337201610
Put your science ships on Passive(not on evasive). Just avoid surveying in systems where you see red ships. Fly and scan the rest.
This game let's me be this, I can't complain.
>>337200824
>Barebones
Yeah you're probably right
>Badly optimised
In what way? It runs absolutely fine on my PC and I've got an ancient i5 from 2009. Are you the same guy from the /vg/ thread who can't afford a mouse with a scroll or something?
How do I take a planet? I've got it occupied, what do I do next?
WTF is up with the captcha
>select numbers
>select rivers
they all just fade to white a disappear
>>337201491
Influence points are sleeper issues later on. Covet them like a jew covets shekels.
Try and get your planets upgraded to planetary capitals before passing them to sectors. This is critically important because you cannot upgrade tiles past certain points without having a capital city on the planet. And that costs influence points.
Dont be afraid to expand randomly. Get civilian access through alien space and keep colonizing.
Designate a couple space ports as your "fleet bases". Upgrade them with engineering bays and crew quarters and keep your fleet parked in their orbit to save energy.
Designate other stations your shipyards and put your production lines and bonus granting items on those.
Torpedoes are OP as all fuck.
>>337202073
Can you not fucking read?
> Start the game
> Entire next star system for first scan
> Suddenly fucking hostile ship roams in
> Its a goddamn roaming star
> Shit myself run back to Earth
> Pray they don't attack
>>337199780
>stellaris
>blunder
>literally the best new 4x game
>>337202006
You need to have the planet as a stated war goal before you can annex it. Its an anti blob mechanic in the game. If the goal of the war does not involve that specific planet you wont be able to annex it.
>>337200824
Youre an idiot.
>>337202390
Oh, excellent. Thank you.
>>337200824
So it's a standard Paradox game?
>>337202390
What does this blob term mean?
>>337202385
>stellaris
>4x
Choose one
>>337199780
none but the pcucks will defend this pile of shit as its all they have lol
>>337200712
it sold over 200k on the first day, which is record breaking for Paradox. certainly not a blunder.
>>337200824
ok well half your post is dead wrong.
>>337202551
>not having a computer that run this
are you using a pile of parts and a potato as your cpu
I don't get the appeal of these space games.
>>337199780
>Now that Stellaris is a massive blunder
What's wrong with it?
>>337200614
Even the covers are becoming too generic.
>>337200712
CoD also attracts a lot of players. Still shit
>>337202686
bro i have a ps4 i dont need some over priced pile of shit pc that will be out dated in 2 months.
>>337199780
>no worm people
>no wormhole travel joke
shit game
>>337200614
>The plot is literally Gundam
I will get it just for that alone.
Not-Zeon here I come.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHdz19aB2W0
>>337202740
i hope you're memeing on me, friend
>>337202530
The game is meant to take awhile to play out, so it is not a traditional move in and occupy, grow bigger strong and roll further on. Like the blob. You wont be to able to wipe out gour bigger enemies in a single war, which could allow tbem to recover and retalliate.
Works both ways though. Other players or the AI wont be able to wipe you out in a single war either.
So the Consolecucks are already in the insecure phase again?
>>337202830
Same here, though I actually like the futuristic stuff.
They MIGHT be able to do something different for once.
>>337202735
A success is the opposite of a blunder. It can be a literal dumpster fire but if it exceeds expectations, it cannot be a blunder.
>>337202740
That's literally a ps4 though, also
>being poor
Sucks for you
>>337199780
Ogame is better
>>337202990
Shame we'll get space F-35 instead of mechas
But they said you could upgrade and customize it so it's fair game.
I might as well ask here rater than make a new thread.
I recently finished ass effect 1, I heard 2 has no effect on the story and that 3 is retarded. Should I get any of these or I should just watch the on youtube?
Also, I hunger for more space vidya.
>>337202740
lol the PS4 was had 4 year old parts in it when it launched..
>>337199780
Agreed. RNG in this game is garbage
none.
>>337205068
2 is definitely good. Play that.
3, I really want to recommend. I really do. But that ending is retroactive bad. Play it anyway.
>>337199780
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN
Oh shit, sorry. It's just that your consolebabby memeing is so fucking boring. I'm having a blast with it so far. And I'm looking forward to seeing more features implemented in the expansions.
>b-b-but paying shekels for DLC
You pay eighty bucks for a shooter on rails that lasts six hours.
>>337205068
Safe transfer has a lot to do with character development, minor and major missions. While there is little impact for conclusion of story.
Don't be an autist and just get 2 and 3rd game, it's story based trilogy ffs. They both have better gameplay. 1st has best story, 2nd best companions, 3rd best gameplay. It's a meme to hate 3rd for its ending, but it is alright now after number of expansions
>>337205979
>Le go back to CoD meme coming from a Paracuck
Others having shit taste doesn't mean your isn't just as bad.
Greetings Gentlemen and NEETs
Just getting into Stellaris, some early game questions:
How many 'Advanced AI' should I include? (I assume this means the AI will cheat more so than normal?)
What should I do with my initial starting capital planet? Should I just use all pops to make minerals+energy or how much food do they need?
What technology should I prioritise?
>>337206137
But ours only costs 30 dollars.
>>337202830
>>The plot is literally Gundam
But there's no colony drop.Or is there?
>>337199780
>what hope is there for space games?
No hope, because none of them are hard science-fiction. Everything is designed primarily to look cool than to make sense.
>>337200712
Its their most popular game ever.
That being said the game has an early exploration phase, a mid game diplomatic phase, and an end game galactic catasrophie phase.
The mid game is lacking. The other 2 are very good.
>>337206317
Advanced AI are meant to represent AI that are ahead of you
>implying by the time your civilization reaches spacehood there arnt already other civilizations there
Its not cheating so much as they just start with a bit more tech and more resources, maybe an extra planet.
Food is only used for growth, once you have max pop on a planet there is no use for food. Its up to you how you do it, but i would recommend you focus on food and power first, using what minerals you get to set up mining stations around your space. Once you max pop a planet convert it to focus on minerals/power.
Of course you dont have to do that if you dont want, focusing on power/minerals early on can help you get an edge by letting you afford colonies to expand.
The great joy is figuring out what you want and seeing if it works.
>>337202830
I rather say Killzone plot but it's pretty similar as well.
My impression is that its the kind of game thats fun when youre exploring but once youve explored everything it turns into a grindy civ clone. Am I wrong?
>>337207027
No doubt its grindy past the exploration stage
But there is still a shitton more to be doing in stellaris than in civ
>>337206137
Having a shorter attention span than a methhead is not an indicator of good taste.
>>337207027
There are 600 stars on a medium galaxy, each if that shit takes several minutes to scan assuming there are no mother duckers sitting on those stars. If you finish exploring, then you've won long ago.
100k copies in days is not bad for a grand strat space game. it already outsold battleborn on steam.
>>337207262
>it already outsold battleborn
Jesus, how much of a blunder was it?
>>337207262
Thats just steam, it actually sold 200k on the first day
Paradox said its the best launch they have ever had for sales
So, since Stellaris won't be great until they shit out a bunch of DLC, what's a good 4x I could play, that lets me win however I want, be the especific kind of empire that I want and has decent AI?
DW:U is great, but I'm already bored of it and the AI is lacking. Inb4 Aurora.
>>337207847
Given GalCiv3 a go yet? I played during the beta and it was alright for a while. Takes too long to try and conquer the largest map. Turns take fucking forever.
>>337207916
To be fair, I tried Gal Civ2 and it just didnt click for me. I do own a few 4x games I never touched, on Steam, even though I can't remember which.
I tried to make a fanatic spiritualist empire in Stellaris, hoping they'd be the Holy Fucking Inquisition and they just ended up as carebears.
So what is the point of sectors?
>>337208138
You don't need to manage them.
>>337208138
You can only directly control 5 (more if you have the right tech or government) planets by yourself. Everything else falls into sectors which are governed by a governor.
But you still get a lot of control over what they do, just not as much as in your own planets.
>>337208315
>>337208397
I have a 7 planet civ, and have nowhere to expand past my seven, so I still haven't messed with them, but why am I forced to sector them off? I like the micromanagement part of the game, but it feels like I'm basically forced to turn some of my shit into a vassal. How much control do I still have over them?
I'm getting close to assimilating my first vassal, and I'm worried that I'm going to have to sector off a lot of stuff.
>>337208706
>but why am I forced to sector them off?
I suspect so you lose some control of your empire, since you've expanded to the point where you cant control everything effectively yourself, so you have to delegate.
Bit of a passover from CK2.
You still get to dictate what they focus on, how much taxes they pay, how many resources you give them to develop.
>>337206809
Accurate
Is it worth a pirate?
>>337200824
Here's your (You)
>>337202830
Shit I need to watch Gundam
Where do I start?
>>337209928
Episode 1.
>>337209928
Yeah, actually I'd like to know too. Been wanting to start watching this, but it's hard to know where to start when getting into an anime that's been going on since the 80s.
>>337199780
Literally none. And good riddance t b h.
>>337205068
ME2 is good, pirate it with dlc because they actually enhance the story but are stupidly expensive.
ME3 other than ending is decent, pirate it with dlc too. JohnP's alternate MEHEM (version b) is a decent mod that removes the stupid from the ending so it is liveable. Also recommend the shorter dream and particularily the extended galaxy mod for me3.
>>337202942
Thanks mate
>>337205068
1 and 2 rocked. 3 only gets a bad rep because it was sold as "your decision really matter this time" and at the end you literally get three options (bad, good neutral) no matter your paragon/renegade level. 3's story and gameplay were average but fun.
>>337210191
But aren't there like 5000 episodes or something?
Or are they all actually connected and not spinoffs?
>>337199780
Imperium Galactica 3
>>337210856I've never actually seen a single episode. I was just bumping the thread, while being an ass.
>>337200614
That's not based on infinity war, right? Right?!
>>337205068
2 is fun overall but very casualized. By no means a bad game, it has some cool characters and neat gameplay
3 has a fucktarded story but very fun gameplay and great variety on weapons and such especially with all the DLCs
I can't recommend buying them though because the DLC is still full price so you'd end up paying 3x the games' price just for them.
>>337209928
I guess you could start with Gundam Origin OVA
But /m/ has a chart for it somewhere.
>blunder
No, not this time /v/
I love Stellaris!
>>337211546
/thread
>>337211498
I will have to look for it
Thanks senpai
>>337211498
Those are some stylish zakus
TERRAN DOMINION SHALL RULE THE GALAXY
>>337199780
>science is boring as shit, I can't build doom devices nor death starts nor create blackholes
>sectors are useless, they will build shit inefficiently and waste resources on ten tiers of spaceports only to use it build nothing
>diplomacy is just a value check and even then some xenos will never cede even a non-agression unless you rape their wife and send their kids hand via galaxy fedex
>events are scarse and will utterly disappear a hour or two in
>war is just watching your dots shooting dots at other dots with no strategy involved, you can't even tell the fucking corvettes to stop suiciding on the frontlines
>>337211895
All of them are stylish.
>>337212170
Of course, I'm just saying it's beyond the normal stylish.
>people are surprised paradox has shit launches
wow you guys are massive newfags
nice looking game with literally no depth
>>337212359
But it's the best launch they had, sales wise.
>>337212687
So? The game is a solid base that needs a shitload of work to be fun, like CK2, and like EUIV.
Buckle up and get ready for an endless slew of DLC that comes with patches that remove or break features for people who don't buy them.
>>337211895
That's a Zulu man.
Thankfully, this isn't /m/.
>>337212875
>play on release to your heart's content
>get tired of it
>come back 5 years later
>it's even better than before
I don't see why Paradox gets hate for this. It's fucking great. It's a lot better than some devs who abandon their game bugs and all.
>>337210856
Just start with the Universal Century, watch 79/Z/ZZ
>>337213000
>Zulu
I don't know, anon. They look more greenish than brown.
And they don't even have any spears.
This is my first 4x/Grand Stra, what ever it is, after wanting to play Grand Strategy for ever. I'm absolutely in love with it, but I don't really have a frame of reference for it. It's like a visual novel with good gameplay and open ended choose your own story.
I was curious as to if I would like Eve Online if I like this game. I know nothing about Eve.
>>337200824
I played it for 6 hours straight on multiplayer without a crash and with only two desyncs (which was the result of the other person trying to research one particular thing which I had no trouble with). When compared to an hour of EUIV or CKII where there are desyncs every 10-15 minutes I think that is a great improvement. It's what I expected and a little more, also the game may seem barebones compared to its predecessors becuase it is more like a text based game with some graphics to provide visual detail which I can see as not appealing to a wide range of people but nonetheless the game is solid, it doesnt crash for no reason and it achieves what it set out to achieve.
>>337213139
Eve is good if you like not playing video games.
>>337213213
Elaborate please.
>>337212875
>that remove or break features for people who don't buy them.
No? They tend to lack compatibility but they have rollback for that, and its far more common for new features to be added with the update even without purchase.
>>337213241
You check markets and travel a lot.
Skills are gained by real time-based training.
Unless you're in a fight you're basically just traveling. You "play" eve by letting it run and then you do something else, kind of a more advanced progress quest.It can still be pretty fun, though
>>337213515
Eh. I'll try it if there is a free trial.
I bought a computer recently and I'm living all my space dreams through it. Would you recommend Elite Dangerous or Star Citizen?
>>337213671
Both are pretty bare bones at the moment from what I've heard.
I'm cautiously optimistic about SC, though. That much money should at least produce something somewhat decent.
>best selling Paradox game ever
>9/10 reviews across the board
>one 6.3 review by a sjw game journalist with a grudge towards Paradox
FAILED GAME!!!!1
only on vee
>>337213671
>Would you recommend Elite Dangerous or Star Citizen?
Neither. One is empty and the other is vapor.
>>337202530
France.
>>337213857
I'd be satisfied with just flying around space discovering new planets and doing fetch quests pretty much. As long as the craft is satifying to pilot.
Someone upload the soundtrack, I can't find any of it online.
>>337213857
Space is pretty empty tho
>>337213845
What review is this? I want to read it for the keks.
>>337209928
The original 1979 series if you're down for a 40-something episode show, or the movie trilogy that summarizes it. It's by far the most iconic part of the franchise, and it does the best job of portraying the characters as just cogs in a larger military machine. Every other show has the lead basically winning their respective conflicts on their own.
Afterwards?
>Zeta Gundam
Direct sequel to the first show. Polarizing and schizophrenic series, but it has some great animation.
>Gundam X
Surprisingly chill show on a post-apocalyptic Earth. Characters are great, and it has an adorable romance at its core, but the mechs are honestly pretty weak.
>G Gundam
If you like martial art shit/manly combat/over the top awesome stuff. It is stupid, but great because of it. Also, not really Gundam.
>Gundam 00
A newer show with a more realistic take on mobile suits. WARNING: second season is dramatically worse.
Also, check out most of the short OVA series, especially 0080: War in the Pocket, one of the few anime to make me actually tear up.
If I build a colony on a mineral or research tile will I be effectively missing out on that resource? Or does it boost it like it does to those tiles next to a colony?
>>337214097
It sounds like you might enjoy Elite then. Just don't expect anything more than that.
>>337214754
I think it suppresses them until you upgrade the main building enough, but I could be wrong.
>>337214187
ED has 0 content. Freelancer has more content than it. Devs are also bunch of scumbags who promised offline version then a month before release said that they couldn't pull it off.
>>337214187
Except games are about creating experiences, not simulating maximum realism. Otherwise space games would be staring at a still picture of stars for a thousand years.
mfw Call of Duty does scifi shooting and spacebattles before Star Citizen is finished
>>337214838
Yeah I can't find an answer. Not willing to risk it.
>>337214970
from what i've seen, it suppresses tiles that applicable, so it's only food on landing, and minerals/food once upgraded.
You suppress it if it's tech points, just like if you'd placed a farm there
>>337212359
>he thinks this is a shit launch
t. someone who played neither Vicky 2 nor HoI3 at release
this is a masterpiece by comparison because even though there isnt alot of depth, atleast it semi-works
>>337214780
I think it's like 20 bucks on g2a. I'll buy that before I think about upgrading to horizon.
>>337208134
>fanatic xenophobe
>militaristic
>carebear
>>337214960
Doesn't CoD have like 200 million dollar budget though?
>>337214960
mfw you'll have your own spaceship and live on Mars before Star Citizen is finished
>>337214524
IGN.
>>337215252
I said Fanatic Spiritualist, I also went for collectivism, for some reason...
>>337215074
Just tried it out. Saved it before. It destroys whatever resource was there before and creates 2 food - I put it on an engineering tile, engineering is gone and now has two food. So it's best to put a colony on a blank tile obviously depending on the surrounding tile resources.
>>337215185
Never played the expansion, although I've heard there aren't really many features. Like the rest of the game desu. Twenty dollars seems like a fair price I think.
>>337215317
idk but Star Citizen has $113 million already and barely has to spend any money on advertising. They'll probably raise a lot more too
>>337215317
CoD also has the same assets and Quake 3 Engine to re-use over and over
The biggest cost is having two teams squirt out a campaign and some models/baked lighting within two years.
Well, the biggest cost after marketing anyway.
>>337213129
Nah, those are definitely Zulus, hard to miss the head and the chest.
Anyway, this game looks interesting, might check it out later.
>>337199780
If there's anyone in this thread who hasn't played the first Sword of the Stars, get it immediately.
>>337215730
I fucking hate designing my ships.
>>337215730
except sots 2. stay the fuck away from sots 2
>>337215969
In SOTS1 or in general?
>>337215990
Yeah, the second one is terrible. The first one is a true classic, though.
>>337213845
>>337214524
>>337215424
Just read it and there's not a single SJW moment in the entire thing. It actually made some really good points and dissuaded me from buying the game.
>>337216073
In general and in sots. Love all other aspects of these types of games but designing ships is so fucking tedious and time consuming.
>>337215729
It was a joke, autismo
>>337199780
>forced blunder meme
>>337215730
Mechanics are alright but fuck not being able to field 10k ships vs 10k ships. That shit's retarded.
>>337216318
>>337216318
If you let IGN influence you in any way, you are a massive idiot.
>>337216318
>It made some really good points
Which ones, and based on what? I've you've read the review you should know that he never played past mid-game. If that's not a huge red flag in terms of taking that review seriously then I don't know what it is.
>>337216690
>clever tech tree
i still don't understand it, it just feels random
>>337216596
Have you played AI War?
>>337217025
Research projects are picked out of a randomized deck of cards. Each time you complete one the other two get shuffled back into it. You also have a chance to get dealt rare tech or pick something unique up from salvage missions.
>>337217257
>that cluster fuck
lol
>>337216690
There's literally nothing in those bullet points that has anything to do with SJW shit, regardless of how much he shoves it in his tweets. That actually implies he's pretty professional, and doesn't let his personal politics influence his reviews. Are you retarded? Are you trying to support that anon's argument?
>>337217939
>Are you retarded?
this is not ok anon
>>337217854
It's fun as hell playing co-op with friends. You're missing out.
>>337209928
Not sure if you're still here, but if you want to start watch the first series which is just called "Mobile Suit Gundam." Then I would recommend in no particular order
G Fighter
Victory
Zeta
Double Zeta
0080 War in the Pocket
Wing
Crossbone
F91
Turn A
00
Sadly I'm haven't seen much of the new stuff, so I can't personally recommend them, but if you want to go ahead and watch them. Oh and avoid everything that has SEED anywhere in it's title, that shit is beyond garbage.
>>337219110
Thanks anon - that's helpful
>>337215437
Once upgraded it also gives some minerals though.
The best thing is adjacency so put it in the middle of good resources tiles for maximum gains
