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Who day 1 for buying the new Doom?
>>337189696
I would but I want to wait and see how it runs on pc
Got it pre-ordered.
why is this guy trying so bad to make quentin-tier bait?
>>337190097
because it's for cracked and he gets paid for clicks
I am. I was on the fence after seeing gameplay but that new one from the Nvidia stream made it look a lot better than the other videos I saw. Getting it on a console though just in case it turns out shit so I can sell it and make some money back, and it seem pointless getting a game clearly aimed at consoles on PC.
Might be pointless in asking but what system is /v/ getting it on? I'm leaning more towards Xbone just because of the controller.
>>337191159
PS4, since its the only console I have.
>>337191159
PC if I bother.
I've tried the beta on PC and Bone, and I can't stand playing it with a controller. Even then, it still feels like a Halo clone more than a Doom game.
>>337191159
>>337191414
You wouldn't want to get the game on consoles if you saw the loading times.
>>337189696
Wut a cunt.
>>337191692
Is it common for tripfriends to buy multiplats on console rather than PC?
>>337191692
I played through Duke Nukem Forever.
As long as the loading times aren't longer than that, I can deal.
>>337189696
>wanting to play a shitty Halo clone with muh edgy epic QTE finishers.
>>337191898
It isn't a Halo clone. It's a Doom clone
>>337191159
I'm getting it on PC even though I have a toaster. The leaked alpha ran alright even though it didn't have any advanced graphic options.
It look like it defaulted to high so the low setting on the final release should treat me fine.
>>337191159
Part of the reason why that nvidia stream looked so much better was because they were playing it on a mouse and keyboard.
>>337191692
Like I said it's mostly so I can sell it if i don't like it. $48 with Amazon prime and I could probably get $30+ on eBay for it.
>>337189696
Posting this guy's infographics should be a bannable offense
>>337190097
It's 100% genuine, he's just retarded and can't get a point across
>>337189696
I recognize that art style, that artist is a fag.
I'm surprised he didn't give new Doom that sword he gives to everyone.
>>337192006
If you can run Doom you don't know what a toaster is
>>337189696
Is the author of this image seriously trying to imply old doom and new doom are identical?
>>337192279
It's a seriously outdated gaming PC. Sorry I've never bothered with laptops.
>Two weapon limits, loadouts, exp with levels that unlock weapons, hack modules being persistent limited use items that make matches have a random element to it, no rocket jumping, no advanced air mobility whatsoever
>>337192586
>Two weapon limits
Um, no?
I'm willing to buy Doom for a /v/ bro so long as he's over 25 and would co-op with me on weekends.
>>337192761
Has it been confirmed that Single Player has CO-OP?
>>337192060
you can get a full refund on steam now if you buy it on pc.
>>337193359
idk but you can make co-op levels with snapmap
I can't wait for this game to come out so Bethesda can do their shit and then fuck off. At least until TES6.
>>337192586
>no rocket jumping
Except there IS rocket jumping, it's just that double jump makes it kind of pointless since you can get most places with double jump and rocket jumping doesn't give you much acceleration so you can't use it to build momentum.
>no advanced air mobility whatsoever
well, you do have double jump and personal teleporter, the latter actually is pretty fucking useful for advanced movement.
>unlocking weapons
Can't defend this, it's fucking absolute bullshit
>hack modules
barely do anything, outside of putting the guy that killed you on your compass or a slight armor boost (which was already in Q3A BTW) it's all superficial bullshit like showing item cooldown times (good players can memorize them and it's a pretty crucial skill to have in arena shooters)
There's plenty to hate about the MP don't get me wrong, but it isn't a complete lost cause, a lot of this stuff is carry-over from the Steam launch of Quake Live. Hopefully Clan Arena and Duels change those things like in Quake Live.
I've played Q3A and Quake Live for years, and yes, this seems like a step down in skill ceiling and freedom of movement as well as balance. But this is still far from CoD from what I played. A good 9 hours between closed and open beta.
>play the multiplayer
>it sucks
>figure I might as well wait to see single player since I never played multi on Doom anyway
>see the single player
>it sucks
Well hey, I gave it a chance, didn't I?
You guys hate this game now, but if they make another doom game this one will be praised
>>337194992
People are already praising it, stupid.
>>337195142
Im talking about the 90% of people who shit on it
>>337189696
>Doomguy
>Faceless
>>337192586
>no rocket jumping
>no advanced air mobility
The original DOOM did not have these either. hell, you cant even jump in the original DOOM - at least you can double jump in the new one
>>337195213
Yes, I'm sure everyone will magically start liking this game when a new one comes out.
Dumbass.
>>337195316
Well now that D44M happened Doom 3 doesn't looks so bad now hm?
>>337189696
I preorderd ps4 from best buy for $30, last hurray game with my friend and I before I move away.And something to play before I get things situated and new computer
>>337195557
Yes, one game does not look as bad as another game that is worse than it. What an intellectual you are.
>>337195557
doom 27 was my favorite desu
>>337195274
>Expecting the artist to actually play the game he's talking about
Doom is so problematic, how can you expect him to play that toxic filth?
>>337195860
You're no fun
>>337195930
same
>>337196118
And you're no brains.
Why would you buy a game at launch? whats the benefit of it? can you niggers just wait 24 hrs so you guys can check how the game will turn out? Is so hard for you? Fucking modern kids, i swear to god...
>>337196387
THIS ANON KEEPS FUCKING CYBERBULLYING ME
>>337196572
I wanna take part in the complaining
>>337189696
>season passes
>shit level design
The only footage I've seen of the campaign is one really fucking awful level design and no more than two or three monsters on screen at a time that spend more time sitting there roaring than actually attacking the player.
Has any other more recent footage of this not happening been shown?
I'm a little cautious because of Bethesda, but it doesn't look nearly as bad as I thought it would. Here's hoping it's ok, at least as good if not better than Doom 3. If only I had a good enough computer to actually run the game.
What made doom great wasn't just all it pioneered but that it was a good well balanced game regardless. Even if DOOM ended up being a clone of another FPS it would still be a really damn good game, it has some of the best level design of any FPS and the concept of pistol starting is the best shit ever at making limited resources and weapon variety relevant. The implementation of .wads is the other thing that really set it apart, snap map does not compare to separating the game engine from the assets like .wads did.
>>337190097
Because he is an unfunny pretentious blowhard.
So him working for Cracked makes sense.
>>337194992
>>337195316
the /v/ cycle, happens with FF and Zelda too.
Campaign looks better than the multiplayer. The unlocked footage they showed at that GTX event looked pretty good.
The multiplayer was also outsourced, which is probably why it's hardly representative of campaign.
>>337197904
The retard cycle, more like. What you think is people suddenly liking an old game when a new one comes out is mere people who liked the old game then being more vocal. Nobody actually suddenly starts liking an old game just because a new sequel is coming out. You'd have to be incredibly stupid to think this happen.
>>337197726
If thats all he can learn from Heart of Darkness, then he really needs another field and/or to kill himself
>>337189696
>free tools to create custom maps
this is what a map editor looks like, not some peel-and-stick prefab room arranger
>>337194992
>Children who grew up with the game will praise it in another five years when a new one comes out
>Somehow this means that the game is good.
>>337189696
no.
>reducing the two games down to these points to make an argument without substance
wew
You guys just don't get his razor sharp wit.
>>337189696
oh hey, it's the faggot who said video games are the same as colored blocks
>>337189696
>Faceless
Ayyyy
>>337197726
>Used to check out Cracked almost every day for dumb/cool trivia
>What it's now become
>>337189696
>free tool to create custom maps
this guy thinks D44M "modding" is the same as doom I and II modding
>>337189696
>Faceless
But that's wrong. We literally see Doomguys face at all times
>Demons on Mars
Depends on the game
>No cutscenes
Has this been confirmed for the new DOOM?
>>337189696who is this guy?
>>337199330
how the fuck do i read this
>>337199826
This. What in fucks name is this trying to convey? It's a mess.
>>337199330
>Anything can be great/awful
It's almost like...people...have different opinions
woah
>>337199826
>>337199917
It's basically saying that people have different tastes, and what they like in one game, they could also hate it being in another game
Unfortunately it is written in the most roundabout, unclear, and stupidly pretentious way possible
I'm 50/50 on the new Doom. The multiplayer game looks like absolute pigshit, that's not even up for debate. It looks like it wants to be five different arena shooters at the same time, the HUD and general UI design is a lazy eyesore, the voiceovers for the announcer are fucking godawful, I can go on and on...
The singleplayer game looks good though, much tighter and more focused in its presentation than on the multiplayer side of things. Not crazy about the direction they went in for some of the demons -- those imps aren't even scary, they just look like rehashed contemporary alien designs, and the cyberdemon looks like an awkward pipedal lobster when it should be a fucking walking goat man that scares the shit out of you when you see it -- but I'm glad to see they included a robust set of options for you to toggle the glory kills off and tweak the interface to your heart's content.
>>337199628
I know that feel, except I stopped going there before things got too bad.
>337192586
>caring about the outsourced multiplayer
>literally just wanting quake 3
>>337189696
This comic is kind of a strawman anyway, since most people's complaints about the game fall in between those bullet points. Nobody is arguing about the wide variety of weapons or free mod tools...
>>337192586
>>337200349
forgot to you you
>>337199806
I dunno about long exponsitional cutscenes but they have the same thing as wolfenstein where all the buttons/swtiches stuff you interact without outside of general gameplay lock you into a short first person animation which i find very annoying especially since doom 3 did it so much better
Outsourcing the multiplayer to Certain Affinity of all studios was probably the biggest mistake id made during development, but the rest of the game looks pretty nice.
>>337191565
It's the mp that's why. Made by bungee devs something. Outsourced basically. It'll play kinda different than sp
>>337199330
He should take some of that razor-sharp wit and slice his wrists.
>>337200454
Wait what the fuck
What about the comic talking about how Dark Souls is the pinnacle of artistic achievement in the most up-his-own-ass way possible?
>>337199330
>stalker
>female characters
>'meh'
what
>>337198070
I keep seeing people who are all like HURRR CERTAIN AFFINITY MADE THE MULTIPLAYER, YOU GUYS KNOW HALO RIGHT NUFF SAID IT WILL BE TOTALLY GREAT
Yeah, no, its not. When you have to farm it out to a third party it almost never is.
>>337200569
I don't think this person actually has any kind of personal investment in video games.
They just like pissing people off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAU3W99a04&ab_channel=futurist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDKk2tyDfLg&ab_channel=BeardedGaming
This is the game you shills defend.
>>337200658
>This video has been removed by the user
You made these, anon.
>>337189696
>doom 1
>faceless marine
Are you stupid?
>>337200454
>video games aren't versatile
>>337200716
the leaks are being taken down, didnt know that one was gone
>>337200779
they aren't
it's just rehashes of the same old shit over and over again
>>337200797
Isn't the game already out in the UAE? why would they take down the footage when the game is already out there?
>>337200843
By that logic so is music, as it's just "rehashes of the same instruments"
>>337200658
>Cutscenes and dialogs everywhere
>guns are weak asf
>glory kills are forced
Okay i changed my mind, im cancelling my preorder
>>337197726
>>337190097
you know back in my day cracked was a comedy website. It wasn't very funny, but they at least tried to do comedy. Sometimes it even worked!
Shit they used to make FUN of clickbait articles. Now every article they make is clickbait.
It's just kinda sad to see.
>>337199330
whoever made this chart should kill themselves
I watched a bunch of gameplay videos and all the demons just lose their spaghetti and drop a bunch of glowing coins and shit every single time you kill them. Like one dude dropped thirty goddamn gold powerups. Can you turn this retarded Mario bullshit off or not?
>>337200658
I'm regretting this already
>>337200658
>3 minutes in
>rune trial
>imps spawn in waves into a tiny room
i was kinda hoping they wouldn't do this shit.
I still don't think it's the worst shooter ever but they are really going out of their way to make it as average as possible
I hope Doomguy isn't a mega edgelord
>inb4 original Doomguy is an edgelord
He just loves slaughtering demons, dude punched his commander when ordered to fire on civilians and has a pet bunny.
>>337200843
Go make something new then. Literally anyone can pick up a programming language and shit out a new game. Get on it, fag. Your shitty idea just might be the next Earthbound.
>>337200658
I don't even know if this will be worth pirating when I'm watching this shit
>>337200907
that's not logic
>>337201356
didnt you see the first trailer?
He has to slam everything into the electronics
>>337200658
THIS IS NOT FAIR
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>337201356
Fuck Doomguy, he has nothing on DOUK
>>337193801
truth
>>337201701
"its time to chew ass" - dick kickem
>>337189696
>Faceless marine
You can see his face on the cover and on the HUD
>variety of weapon
literally 5 weapons with mods on it
>Fighting demon on mars
Not on mars, on it's moons, hell and earth.
>No cutscene in 2016 Doom
good joke
>No weapon reloading
You have to reload in Doom 2016
>free tools to make custom map
You could make more than maps with too tool provided.
Reminder custom maps are 4 player max.
Fuck the guy who made this.
>>337189696
>No cutscenes
There are constant cutscnes DURING GAMEPLAY. You have to initiate cutscenes to kill monsters to make them burst into treats. At cutscene plays as you hit the ground after a long fall. A cutscene plays as you climb up onto a ledge. Nice blatent lie, m8.
>on Mars
You never set foot on Mars in original Doom, it's only mentioned in the manual story.
>free tools to create maps
...But not mods. Czechmate Bethdrone.
Fuck doom
>>337200658
It really doesn't look that great. The pacing does seem a bit off.
>>337201804
"dye bich" - duck cuckem
>>337200658
My god.
It's everything I feared it would be.
>>337200658
so this..........is the power............of..........zenimax
I hope you can turn off the long ass canned animations.
>>337199715
You know modding means modifying content already made. Using a map creator isn't a mod. Faggot
>>337200658
And on this day.
the shills have been BTFO'd by truth once again.
overwatch will be next
Why are all the glory kills melees? They could have done a lot more creative shit with the guns, like stick the barrel in the demon's mouths or whatever. For all their variety they end up looking the same, just like BOOM PUNCH ITS HEAD OFF or whatever.
>>337191159
>game looks like garbage because they play with controller
>looks decent when they show off footage with keyboard and mouse
>hurr im getting the console version
You are literally retarded.
>>337201943
"its time to chew off you head and shit down your ass" - dude niggums
>>337199330
>telltale games
>attention to detail and internal consistancy
no
>stalker
>yeh
>meh
>>337200658
Why the fuck do all the demons look like generic pink aliens
>>337200658
>first level doesn't throw you right into it
Fuck. Part of what I love about Doom is how good the first levels were.
>>337200658
>2nd video removed
what was it?
>>337202582
I guess it doesn't really matter when you press x to mega brutal animation them to death and their body disappears.
Don't know if it's been posted yet, but this video confirms that not doing GKs gives you less pick ups.
https://youtu.be/WLToGa1bNFc
>>337202782
the last levels and the endingit was fucking horse-shit, ME3 Tier shit
>>337202898
no shit, it's the main source of health and ammo which makes doing them pretty mandatory
I feel like the only person who liked the slower, more methodical horror direction of Doom 3. Yeah, OK, I get your points about the monster closets but don't pretend like Doom & Doom 2 didn't have those or the new one won't either -- because from some of the gameplay footage I'm seeing and things I'm hearing about it there is a rhythm to the gameplay loop that repeats itself an awful lot. Find area, get locked in, OH SNAP SURPRISE MONSTER ARENA GOTTA KILL EM ALL TO CONTINUE.
I just wish this new Doom looked scarier, they went in too much on the gnarly and cool and not enough on the terrifying imo. I get that its an action game, but still. Those imps and pinkies suck, man. So does the lobsterdemon.
>>337203073
This!
>b-but you can disable them
according to the leaks, you can only disable the highlights, glory kills are staying and you are forced to do them
>>337203073
I know, but a few weeks back some marks were going "look, they still drop stuff if you don't use the kill animation!"
This is just confirmation that you get less if you don't use it.
>>337200454
And
>>337197726
Make no sense from the same source. Does this guy even have a coherent argument or does he just try to act as pretentious as possible.
> WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS WORDS WORDS WORDSWORDSWORDS WORDSWORDSWORDS WORDSWORDS
>>337200658
I'm not gonna defend the game, but in another thread you complained about lag even though now days everygame lags until the day one patch (then we bitch out if it lags afterwards)
>>337203228
that wasnt me anon so i have no idea what you are saying
>>337189696
I'll pirate it on the PS3
>hours and hours of seeing the same melee animations over and over again
Why can't they just make a game where you run around a maze collecting keycards while listening to heavy metal music
Why won't that fly in 2016
>>337203183
they drop less for a normal kill and drop a shitload if you kill a big enemy with the chainsaw
i think it's a pretty shit system and they have ignored the fundamentals of the original doom
>>337200658
>No music blaring
>No non-stop rippin and tearrin
>In fact there are large sections where you wander in near silence
>When you get to the action guns suck and you rely on scripted melee for kills
I just wanted to RIP AND TEAR
>>337200658
This is it /v/.
This is the death of Doom
>>337202624
That doesn't sound cinematic anon.
>>337192738
Probs referring to the multiplayer
>>337201052
Back in MY day, Cracked was a poor man's version of Mad Magazine.
>>337189696
What a beautiful strawman.
Admit that you fucking nerds would be pissed if they just redid the original Doom.
Innovation and modernization is key to a good reboot. Try playing the original Doom today and tell me if it holds up whatso ever. I tried that shit for the first time last year and it was jank as shit
Fucking crybabies. You can turn off the kill animations if "rip and tear" triggers you so much.
>>337203323
Anything ZeniMax produces has to be bland shit because that's what normies want, or at least what they think they want.
>>337200496
It looked exactly the same.
You guys are fucking serious? the gameplay from the MP is literally the same one of the SP.
It's made for consoles, this is why the new doom looks so fucking stale and boring and slow.
>>337202948
Could you tell me what the or provide me with another link to a video with the ending?
>>337201398
>go out there and make more of the same shit
yeah pretty much made my argument again
>>337203724
>you can turn off the animations
you can't, only the highlights, shill.
>>337200658
After watching some, it looks like they threw together all the dooms, brutal doom, and call of duty. and well some would say great, it comes out like a maple covered chocolate bacon doughnut with marshmellow filling. Great separate but a mess together to most.
>>337200658
>playing with gamepad
HNNNNGH
>>337203724
I played doom II an hour ago and i never played doom until2015and it was fun
>>337203829
they are being taken down one by one, go to youtube and find recent PS4 live streams. there's a chance you will find Doom 4 leaks.
As for the endingyou don't wanna know
>>337203724
I'm a literal halobabby, haha we're over 18 now it is the year 2016, and DOOM still holds up to me. The controls are very simple and the gameplay is as fast paced as you decide to play it. The best part is the maps, the combat is relatively simple but it's aided by managing limited ammo and choosing what to use to fight what. And they love throwing traps at you in order to get to secrets to get to the good guns, it's all immediately satisfying and rewarding especially if you pistol start. Grafics are fine, they're technically 2D so it's bearable, it's just old not shit. Shit graphics make it hard to see what's going on, everything is very clear in DOOM and DOOM 2.
>>337189696
>classic doomguy
>faceless
>on mars
>>337203724
This, the first game made you find dumb keycards for some reason and that was BORING. How about some action in our shooter, eh Id?
>>337189696
Funny how they didn't mention anything about gameplay.
>>337203724
> redid the original Doom.
it's possible and worked for ROTT but some compromises have to be made (and ROTT had some other problems too) and the originals are still as good as ever
>Innovation and modernization is key to a good reboot
you can reboot a series in a different way but it's still gotta be good "innovation and modernization" are red flags
>You can turn off the kill animations
no you can't
>>337203724
You are right that innovation and modernization is the key, but that doesn't mean stray from the original idea of the IP.
With Doom the original idea was balls to the wall non-stop action, fun shootbangs, and good level design. Most of this seems to be either removed or toned down to the point of irrelevance.
And in this case the flaws are way more apparent because we can see a similar reboot being done well in Wolfenstein, which expanded upoon and added to the original idea which was exploring a neat environment and doing the fun shootbangs.
>>337204087
i guess il just wait until bethesda stop taking down videos then
>>337200658
I don't understand who designed these levels. they're so poorly put together. I don't want to play them.
I'm not usually the kind of /v/tard that runs into threads saying the game is shit, but I really don't know how they can justify putting in a two weapon limit in multiplayer doom
Are we fucking CoD now?
>>337204353its a cliff-hanger, there will be more doom games
>>337204321
Still better than the first games retarded mazes. Try and explain how the reboots levels are so bad even though you haven't played them yet, fucking auty cunt
why are jackals in this game? Seriously wtf were they thinking?
Whoever was the lead designer for this game just let people do whatever the fuck they wanted.
>>337204360
Actually CoD makers made the multiplayer
Its funny how in the present day modernization probably refers to COD and Halo and a bunch of other games that dont focus on gameplay and instead go for graphics and cinematic experiences.
As of right now Classic Doom has:
-Maze levels
-Bunch of guns at the same time
-Fast pased action and movement
-Lots of enemies at the same time
Modern shooters dont have any of this, instead they go for a slower shittier approach cause it has to be played on a fucking controller so in a sense we've actually gone backwards on the gameplay department.
Also im asking for a refund, fuck this game.
>>337202309
but we've been playing overwatch for like a year
>>337204538
That barely even narrows it down.
The reason Doom is such a good game and still relevant 20 years later is because it has all the fundamentals without any added bullshit, Doom 4 has strayed away from these and people can tell
>>337202624
Sorry Grandpa, it isn't the 90s anymore.
Does anyone happen to have the ending video saved? I missed that shit
>>337204579
>hurrrr idk what to say...
>u r underage!! n-now gtfo!
Good one
>>337203724
/v/ is going to hate the system shock 2 remake
>>337191820
I feel you m8, I bought Duke Nukem Forever day one. If Doom 4 is bad I can't even imagine it would be as bad as Duke.
>>337204579
Anon... I don't know how to tell you this...
There are people over 18 who literally grew up on Halo.
>>337204469
I hope to god they let the series die before they decide to make another game.
>>337203724
>Admit that you fucking nerds would be pissed if they just redid the original Doom.
>Shadow warrior reboot, rise of the triad reboot and serious sam HD was great.
Argument discarded
>>337204736
God I preordered that and was excited for it. I am keeping my hype low for this one
>>337204716
>level design is a straight line
>with a bunch of cinematics
>no rpg elements fuck you
>on-rail shooter
Thanks modern fps's! you really know what the kids want!
>>337202624
e1m1 is pretty short boring and easy senpai
e1m8 is dogshit but e1m8b is fucking great
>>337204669
i wish someone would make a version of this where the water is slow-moving and calm instead of janky as fuck
>>337204793
And not all of us hold the same opinion. This new DOOM looks like ass, the shotgun gameplay looks no different than fighting the flood in Halo 1, except the flood are actually more aggressive.
>>337203724
>innovation
Motherfucker it's literally doom thats been assraped by CoD Gameplay and le cinematic experience
>>337204469
>there will be more doom games
NIGGA WHAT
>>337204869
it's literally just a straight up remake, but /v/ will just end up pointing out flaws that the original had too and call it shit.
>>337189696
>That image
>But-but nostalgia-fags!!?!
Bullshit. Many modern throwbacks to old-school FPS try to simply make it fast and have big weapons but fail to have good enemy or level design, which is what makes doom still fucking played (and modded for) to this day.
It's not the speed, or the brutality, or the cheesy style, it's that the game was smartly designed and that is why I am on the fence for the new game.
>>337204486
They made the game into a platformer?
You just go from point A to point B into a square arena.
>>337204924
at least it has a purple carpet
>>337204669
thinking about niggers is not relaxing
>Fighting demons on mars in the future
>on mars
This never happened in Doom.
>>337205013
>They made the game into a platformer?
Stopped reading there and opinion discarded
>>337200658
Please no...
>>337200658
>muted bass lines with industrial/electronic music instead of fucking metal
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>>337204971
How in fuck does this look like COD
>>337200454
>I am silly xd
NOT
AN
ARGUMENT
>>337205131
Is the truth overloading your brain?
>>337205251
Tell us what you think a platformer is
Lets say for the sake of argument that I am 18, because I haven't actually checked the rules for /v/.
I didn't play Doom (1993) for the first time until late last year. I loved it.
I think Doom (2016) looks and plays like shit.
What now, crackedfaggots?
>>337205340
A game where you have to jump around to get a different area.
>>337205013
>You just go from point A to point B into a square arena.
This pretty much nails what DOOM is and whats wrong with it.
>>337205408
>I am 18
l2read m80
>>337189696
>someone made this image for a game they havent even fucking played yet
>>337205464
Why do you think that ending words in 8 is funny?
>>337205206
>linear A-B arenas
>some guy constantly talking to you
>giant objective on screen
>fucking compass telling you where to go
>cinematic events happening around you rather than you causing events to happen around you
>>337205340
A game where jumping and management of elevation is more key than actual gunplay.
I don't think D44M is a platformer but it sure does have a lot of lame first person platforming.
>>337205513
Correction: Someone made that image for two games they haven't even fucking played yet.
>>337205530
i r8 ur b8 8/8 m8 now 2 go masterb8 cause i have no d8
>>337205530
>can't tell the difference between an eight and a zero
Back to pre-school with you.
>>337205394
By your shitty standards the DMC games are platformers because you sometimes have to jump to get to the next area
>>337205535
Literally the first level of doom has a much more complex layout than any of DOOM, LOL.
I didn't hate the beta, I had fun with it, I still think it could be better and I'd rather play Doom. That picture is stupid.
>>337189696
>and there are no cutscenes to distract you
m8 did you even see the commercial?
>>337205660
>By your shitty standards the DMC games are platformers
anon....
>>337205621
>>337205794
How old are you really?
>>337205827
Could you not have used your common sense to figure out that I wasn't thinking of the reboot?
>>337205660
I know you're probably one of the devs on the game but come on. There's jumping everywhere in that video.
>>337205889
1 just turn3d 18 yesterd4y m8
>>337200658
it looks like a bad version of halo, not like doom. where are the enemies? what the fuck?
>>337205997
You are pretty funny and totally not making yourself a fool.
>>337205994
>devs posting on v
More like shills and people paid dimes to post about the game.
>>337189696
I guessing he got paid about 60 dollars tops for this.
>>337189696
m8 im not touching that with a ten foot pole
plus the first doom is still perfectly playable
>>337206134
>You are pretty funny and totally not making yourself a fool.
I'm the guy you originally responded to and the dude you're trading posts with now is not me, you're being baited.
>>337189696
This looks suspiciously like the art they occasionally use on those cracked articles.
>>337206449
it is
>>337189696
>Day 1
FUCK NO
I would've CONSIDERED it if they didn't front load Day fucking 0 DLC "SEASON PASS"
i'll get it a %50
>>337191898
>>337191973
>Doom the grandaddy of ALL fps
>idiots call it a "clone"
How can it clone what if fucking created? If anything it's just taking things that belonged to it and using them
FUCKING JUST STOP REUSING IPs & JUST PUMP OUT NEW ONES
AT THE RATE THE INDUSTRY IS SPEWING OUT NEW GAMES SOME NEW IPs ARE BOUND TO BE A HIT EVEN IF STILL SHIT
>>337200658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giS4srloQFs
>>337206794
Halo devs are actually working on doom so they aren't wrong.
>>337193413
>six titties
>squish belly
>>337207051
you mean the outsourced multiplayer?
>posting content from top 11 reasons gobbagoopas are sexist doody heads dot com
I thought GG discussion was banned?
>>337207114
They influenced more than the multiplayer when you see the grenade throwing and the jackals in the game
>>337207219
>halo invented enemies with shields
>>337200057
muddy values. face looks like pink lesbian from overwatch
>>337200454
>Has said the opposite of this SEVERAL times
What the fuck?
>>337189696
Nu-Doom was shown to be full of mini-cutscenes when you were meleeing your enemies.
>>337189696
>Day one buying anything these days.
Fucking idiots.
>>337200454
literature is an irrelevant medium that's why there's so little money in it
>>337200057
Looks like a boy scout with down syndrome, what the fucking hell man.
SP looks fun. I will get it discounted day one.
>>337205168
>-------------------------------> this how long my penis is lol
anon, i have some bad news for you...
>>337207303
they're more like halo's jackals than just enemies with shields.
>>337200454
>presented as surrogate for real world acheivements.
Literature and film don't even let you do THAT much. With video games you can pretend to do something, reading a book is literally sitting in a corner being quiet.
>>337207048
>shiiiet just turn on the haste rune all the time for the presentation
>>337191898
It's for all the pitiful troglodytes that love xray attacks in mortal kombat.. that's clearly the demographic they want buying this game it's hilarious.
>>337207429
Isn't reloading a mini-cutscene too?
>>337200454
Well this one is right. Vidya is nothing but a toy. Only an insecure manchild would argue otherwise.
I knew I was going to buy it any way so might as well pre load.
>>337197726
>also, the Black Angels have some really good songs
christ alive, he really is retarded
>>337189696
>paying attention to a retard who considered Spec Ops: The Line as a piece of art
Retards BAKA
>>337202545
>>337200603
You don't know how to read it, dumbass.
>>337189696
I got it as an early birthday present, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it until it was like 50% off
>>337189696
I bought it and no amount of anime crybabys on /v/ will change my oppinion.
>>337211456
lmao I see, sorry you bought this piece of shit
who else wants a baron of hell bf
>>337189696
>>337190037
>>337191159
Fuck off shill. Putting the name of a good classic game on a new shoveled-out piece of shit only fools teenage boys who wouldn't know a good game if their father beat them at it.
>>337200658
What the fuck is this?
>>337211064
Ii think the person who made it is a dumbass because most people are looking at this and thinking the person who made it is a dumbass...
>>337189696
>play as huge, faceless marine
What did he mean by this?
>>337200658
>that "rune trial"
What i didn't expect of them is to borrow ideas from DoomRL.
>>337200658
Playing on a console certainly doesn't help this game's case.
I wish they had released ONE, just ONE, A SINGLE GODDAMN PC VIDEO. There's that Vulkan demo showcase, but that's unofficial.
Oh how the mighty have fallen
>>337203829
The AI NPC teleports you, steals your items and says "Till we meet again the sequel" more or less
I shit you not.
>>337213050
Is there a boss fight at least?
>>337213648
Final boss is the Spider Mastermind, after that you have the conversation with the robot and they roll credits.
>tfw playing DOOM 64 EX
I had no idea this game was so good.
>>337189696
I can only think of Duke Nukem Forever.
just got it off gmg with doom 3 bfg. big fan of doom 1, 2 and final, but never played 3 so this seemed liked a good deal
>>337192586
>"Hurr durr I am too retarded to actually research or remember shit"
They explicitly said, MONTHS before the fucking Beta even was around, that the new Doom would have options for multiplayer to remove loaduts, you get pickups and so forth.
And I doubt they'd be lying about it since it would be easy to implement and they have no reason to leave it out.
>>337189696
if 23 years have past and nothing has changed yes yes lazy devs
All the kill animations and shit makes the whole game a giant cutscene.
>>337197726
>Spec Ops: The Line
>Superior to Heart of Darkness
I can already see every reviewer under the sun saying that the game is good and that the fans are wrong.
They'll even say that they played the original Doom when it came out for gamer cred and say it wasn't that good.
This industry has lost its charm.
>>337214597
>Doom 3 BFG
Could have just got regular Doom 3 and some mods and it would look better.But even Doom 3 BFG is a lot better than what it did to the classic Dooms it comes with
>>337200658
please tell me im watching a tutorial of some sort, for the love of god, WHERE ARE ALL THE ENEMIES IN THAT BEGINNING AREA, SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IT'S A JOKE VIDEO
>>337215927
>Beginning areaIt's not the start of the game
>>337215927
Pretty sure that's a fair bit into the game
Starting area was is mostly imps and possessed UAC personnel, and you only had 2 weapons - pistol and shotgun.
>>337200454
>claiming films can be intellectual
Ha-ha, a barbarian cuck strikes again.
>>337216226
>>337216338
NONONOONNOONONO PLEASE YOU ARE LYING TO MY FUCKIN FACE RIGHT NOW, THIS ISNT WHAT I WANTED, SURELY HIGHER DIFFICULTIES MEAN YOU CAN HAVE MORE ENEMIES RIGHT GUYS?
SURELY YOU CAN TURN OFF KILL ANIMATIONS AND GLOW IN THE DARK SHITE ALL OVER THE ENEMIES WHEN THEY ARE STAGGERED?
SURELY THE WEAPON UPGRADING AND HORDE MODE SHITE I SAW IN THAT VIDEO IS JUST TUTORIAL SHITE??
GUYS PLEASE, I WANTED THIS TO BE GOOD
>>337215927
>>337216786
i'm pretty sure the guy in the video was playing on easy.
>>337216869
it has to be right? i mean im sure the higher difficulties will punish you for spamming the glory kill garbage over and over, and make sure you arent just cruising through it.
R-right?
>>337216786
>THIS ISNT WHAT I WANTED
Newsflash grandpa, this game isn't catered towards you. It's aimed at kids who have never touched Doom or the BRYUDAL DUUD kiddies.
>>337200454
>you need a lot of time to play a video game
You need to either git gud or build an attention span.
All media is associated with children, they are the most passive people on the planet and get to consume the most of anything. Also books are associated with juvenile as the average person has probably read more in school than anywhere else in their life.
>>337216950
The hardest difficulty makes it a rouge-like.
If you die once you have to start the whole game over.
>>337217289
what the fuck, is that a joke? Surely you mean just starting at the last checkpoint or something?
>>337217358
Nope.
Ultra Nightmare is perma-death.
So you're probably going to need to abuse those glory kills for the i-frames and health regen
>>337203398
Nah.
What do you think /vr/ and Doomworld are going to uninstall their games and the idgames archive is going to down because of this?
Either this will make people interested in old doom and contribute to the community, and/or there will also be an influx of brutal doom shitters, but who knows D44M might serve as chemo to get rid of obnoxious brutal doom fans and actually strengthen the community from them gone and new fresh older people who "played Doom in the old days".
Talented people are still churning out mods and maps pretty much oblivious to the state of everything vidya around them, this won't really phase anything still building up old doom. I think its going to be fun to see old Doom outlast this sequel as it did 3.
>>337217358
Nope the WHOLE GAME
not a checkpoint or level.
>>337217519
>who knows D44M might serve as chemo to get rid of obnoxious brutal doom fans and actually strengthen the community from them gone and new fresh older people who "played Doom in the old days".
How does that even work? This is both just delusional nonsense and scapegoating.
>>337191973
>he doesn't call first person shooters doom clones
>>337217728
meant for
>>337206794
I just want a doom game with a bunch of weapons, metal music in the background, run around and shoot enemies, collect keycards to progress, repeat on the next level, all this with a decent level design and nice atmosphere
I don't need a map, ugly hud, weapon upgrades, perks, whatever the fuck else they implemented, don't need runes, double jump, execution, pinata enemies, trials... All this shit is just fucking distracting from gameplay
I don't want to stop to look at the map I WANT TO FUCKING RUN AROUND AND SHOOT AT THINGS
Why is this concept so hard to understand?
>>337189696
Yeah, I already bought it off some third party key site for twenty burger bugs a while back, so I'm kind of excited. MP is meh to decent depending on whether you're looking at the bright magenta mother fucker or the dude in black and metallic green who looks bad ass. SP looks fun. If nothing else, Ultra Nightmare will be interesting.
>>337192028
And they also pick up Haste at one point, making it much faster than it is
>>337200658
Looks fun, gonna play with a controller :^)
>>337191565
whats that, halo reskin plays like halo, how are you surprised?
>>337202423
>expecting any common sense from anime posters
>>337192006
have you played halo
have you played DOOM
have you played doom2016
Doom > halo=doom2016
>>337200454
This guy is a fucking moron and if he hates gaming so much maybe he should find another topic to write about.
Oh wait he's too stupid to write about other things, that have a much higher bar of entry? Oh well gaming is fine then. Better keep whining about how obnoxious gamers are!
>>337189696
>no cutscenes
blatant lie
>all these people who actually prerordered it
Where the fuck did all you faggots come from
KYS
I'll see you in a buyers remorse thread in a week
>>337189696
>>337191159
>>337191414
this shit need to be bannable
>console doom
literally poverty
>>337200658
>PS4
are u stupid or something?
did you saw 1080 gameplay?
>>337189696
Day 1 Pirating. I don't plan on playing the Multiplayer anyway
>not just waiting for the new levels to be turned into WADs
lel
>>337189696
>They didn't send out review copies
I don't even fucking care about reviews, but that's never a good sign.
>ask /v/ how to improve modern FPS
>no one ever provides an answer
Fuck I hate this board.
>>337203724
>Try playing the original Doom today
>implying I don't every day
>>337211652
>oh no they used the name for the series their company has been developing for decades on the new installment in that series that has been planned for around eight years I'm somehow surprised by this
>what's next, another Quake game???
>>337221790
more focus on level design (less linear, more secrets, not made for literal retards, platforming puzzles)
more focus on enemy design (not just the same enemy with better armor for each stage)
make every weapon in the game count, make them have a specific use/thing theyre better at than other weapons that is easily recognizeable
make everything faster
ban controllers, KB+M only
never take the control of the protag away from the player
less realistic stories
more enemies
no cover shooting
There. Faggot.
>>337203724
>"Try playing the original Doom today and tell me if it holds up whatso ever"
>"its le nostalga goggles, kiddo, things werent better before"
I literally just finished Doom 2 for the first time in my life 2 hours ago and it's better than any shooter i've played in 10 fucking years, fuck off
>>337198245
Wow that map editor sure did result in a lot of great content that wouldn't end up as an Unreal Engine project these days, like:
>
>>337204204
ROTT remake was god awful even if you're looking at it from the perspective of cloning ROTT faithfully.
>>337204827
>Shadow Warrior reboot was great
So you're saying D44M will be fine? Because everything D44M changed about Doom was done to SW in SW2013, unless you're one of those retards that thinks Shadow Warrior was originally a Serious Sam style wave shooter with an emphasis on melee because you never actually played it and just believe the remake was faithful because it was well received.
>>337204204
rott had the most satisfying shot gun ive ever seen in a game
>>337222195
this desu
>>337204204
>"innovation and modernization" are red flags
Those were both literally the driving force behind those shooters you like. Innovation in advancing a genre, modernization in that Doom and the games following it were moving away from arcade/console formulas at the time.
>>337222537
the shadow warrior remake played different to the original but was really quite fun just in a diffferent way. i wish there were more humanoid enemies. and while the horeds are a bit of a cop out it got annoying in the original tying to figure out obscure level design when i could be just running and gunning. it works better in doom style environments and ive had the most fun with it through conversion mods. something i like about the original sw is switching between weapons. once i got used to it using the sword was very satisfying taking out most enemies in 1 hit
also sad they weakened up the guns to force you to use glory kills if the shotty still 1 shotted youd never see all those prescious animations they made
>>337223360
>also sad they weakened up the guns to force you to use glory kills
And the guns in SW2013 weren't weakened to force you to use the sword? Everything but the sword, crossbow and rocket launcher is a pea shooter, not even fit to clear out trash enemies. There's a lot of footage of point blank shotgun rounds in Doom 2016 oneshotting the same tiers of enemies it always has, on the other hand. Not even getting into the SSG.
>>337224416
no the revolver was still a 1 shot kill from a headshot they didnt see very weak to me though i can see your point. either way the sword was a gameplay mechanic not a canned animation and using it was fun actually fun. yeah but it's deferentially lacking the range of classic doom shotty. im 've bought a key so ill be gettign the game anyway and i hope its fun and feels good. cant really say till ive actually played it. with any new release its just best to be cautiously optimistic
>>337199330
Oh NOW I geddit
You start from the game, and can only move in a single direction, no 90 degree turns
Kinda makes more sense now, I suppose
>>337203724
>Try playing the original Doom today
Ok anon, thanks for saving me some bucks
I've only got a 760 ti so I'm SO
>You lived long enough for the PC is too expensive meme to come true
>>337211967
t. the dumbass that tried to construct this sentence.
>>337191159
>Buying a ticket to the Bonezone
>>337200454
>>337197726
Well which fucking one is it?
>>337191159
Xbone day 1 cause MP with friends and I wI'll need to sort my pic for total war borehammer
gonna disregard new doom, and instead play new wads for old doom.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1605001
this one's pretty strong.
>>337192586
just stay on ZDaemon or Skulltag
you clearly never wanna leave it
>>337227704
mah nigga
doomseeker and a controller gave me 50 times as much enjoyment as the shitty new doom open beta
>>337227794
If i want a good multiplayer fps I'll play reflex.
>>337189696
Regardless of whats been said by devs, I bet Doom 4 will get a cross for
>Open ended maze-like level design that encourages you to explore
>Monster placements that are organic to the level design
And ticks for
>linear straightforward level design, with occasional little side rooms
>Wave based monster rooms a la Serious Sam/Painkiller
>>337227704
I kinda miss when big name megawads didn't have a modified palette.
Looks great, though
Depends on how long the campaign is for me. I'm not interested in multiplayer but I have a soft spot for FPS shooting.
>>337199330
Wait fuck
Every time I see this someone talks about not understanding it and I always felt like it was easy to understand but then I actually read it over again and what in the absolute fuck is this shit
>>337195316
Happened with trash like Oblivion.
>>337189696
>playing as faceless, gloating gun
doom gen
>>337225381
doesn't work, what if you go from bamham to the "batman" tile?
>>337196627
Shoot up your school, its the only reasonable response.
>>337194157
How can you say it sucks if you haven't played it
>>337193413
why do fat people get that distinctive 4 pack thing going on
>>337200658
This guy is playing slowly and badly on purpose, way to slant peoples view of this game by showing a shitty clip, why didn't you link the hour long gameplay demo? Oh yeah because it destroys your point
>>337231753
how can you say you dont love cock if youve never sucked one
>>337191159
PS4, since I'm saving money for a pc where I can play it later.
>>337192006
>beta ran right
never seen a worse beta, complete console port garbage
also ran like dogshit
fuck off shill
>>337207048
So now that I've watched that retail version video, this one is essentially a lie right? Game does not move even close to that fast in the actual game
Christ that's some seriously dishonest advertising
>>337192761
Add me on steam:
Ednei11.
Willing to play all weekend, except after 8pm on sunday because i gotta sleep early and shit.
:3
Doom 4 looks like shit. I've just been calling it Retard 4 instead.
Sure, most of them carry over.
But if you think SnapMap compares to making a game outright open source, you're fucking delusional.
>>337236746
Only thing that matters
>>337202423
Okay.
Enjoy paying $60 to rent it PCuck.
I'll keep my option to use KB and M on PS4.
>>337236746
*rolls eyes*
ugh, could you like, just.... ugh I cant even right now, I mean, could you just, like........ NOT??? ugh
NEW TRAILER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sW7jp0u0PI&ab_channel=BethesdaSoftworks
>>337237365
Skip the trailers and go straight to raw and unedited gameplay >>337200658
>>337237603
Already seen thatI'm the one who posted it yesterday
This video shows an area with *gasp* more than 10 enemies and funnily enough the framerate shits itself.
>>337200658
>that slow as fuck pacing
>that shitty music
>those unimpressive enemies
>>337237743
>Console version of a game shits itself
What an exciting an unexpected turn of events.
>>337189696
>variety of weapons
stopped reading there, I give your thread bait/10
>>337237743
>taking opinions from /v/
no thanks
>>337189696
Melee attacks that take away your control for like 1-2 seconds are still cutscenes :^)
>>337238081
Every single gun from the original games is making a return. You can't say one has a variety of weapons and the other doesn't.
Looks like they took Doom 3 and Brutal Doom and mashed them up. Not a bad combination by any stretch, but after playing the multiplayer beta, I'm incredibly hesitant.
>>337196572
>Why would you buy a game at launch?
to play it I would assume
>>337238316
My point is original doom didn't have that big variety of weapons to begin with.
>>337200658
>chainsaw is a cinematic 1hko attack
I don't even care much for the original Doom games, but that is fucking awful. I'm so sorry, Doom fans.
>>337189696
I just activated the key I got from GMG for $45. Looking forward to seeing if it's any good. /v/ and /vg/ seem convinced it's going to be shit but I was sold when the first gameplay video when he ripped a demon in half from the head down.
>>337232940
Exactly what I was thinking. The game looked fine to me, the game playing it though, good god it's almost like he forgot there's a jump button. Watching him play made me want to puke
>>337238948
Bottom left looks okay, the rest are kind of shit
>>337232940
My god you're right, it's a conspiracy.
>>337238896
>>337200658
get ready for disappointment
>>337238563
Both the original and current have more mechanical variety than the current trend of "Hitscan modern automatic/semiautomatic weapon with varying fire speed, damage and accuracy stats".
>>337238948
Never been done for a franchise that /v/ likes EVER before, EVER!
>>337239087
>bunch of gameplay videos make it look good
>some make it look bad
Difficult to grasp I know.
>>337239349
>looks around empty room for a 1 minute
>walks off a ledge and dies
Is this entire video just going to be some faggot playing the game really badly?
>>337239747
Yes, and playing the game on console makes it look really fucking atrocious.
>>337239523
Hey, if jumping around and switching weapons needlessly every five seconds is the way you actually plan on playing the game, then I guess you can just dismiss the gameplay videos being played by people other than those who are trying to sell the game.
>>337238896
A completely uncontrollable dazed kill, while impressive when you first see it, is gonna get old fast
>>337239747
You're also able to tell general game speed from the video, even if the person playing is bad
The game is slow, and outright encourages you to use those shitty stun kills
>>337238350
I also felt this way, but I checked out the preview stream they did of the "snapmap" modding and one of the first things they loaded up was an almost exact replication of Doom 2 multiplayer, the right movespeed and all the weapons and etc. The combination of that and the one guy who found a server setting to enable quake 3 strafe jumping, I'm no longer at all worried about what the multiplayer offers by default.
>>337239857
>>337239747
>>337239523
>>337232940
>10 enemies onscreen only
>forced glory kills
>play-doh graphics
>b-but he's making it bad on purpose i-its still good!
Typical shills.
60€ with The Old Blood (I liked TNO but TOB doesn't seem all that interresting to me)
or
47€ with Doom 3 BFG Edition (I played the original Doom 3 and don't intend to replay it but I have yet to play Resurrection of Evil)
Let's say I only have these two choices (no "just pirate everything") which one ?
>>337239932
I watched some pooinloo play the game poorly on console two days ago and it looked fine.
Nevermind you can literally do the same thing for Ultimate Doom and Quake 3 if you set it to low difficulty or, for the latter, play it on console.
>>337240095
>You're also able to tell general game speed from the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okb3RVe2vbA
>>337240136Snapmap only supports 4 players
Hope you're ready for disappointment
>>337239951
Good thing they're completely optional and you can even turn them off in the options menu.
>>337240216
I've heard WOB is really amazing, but I think it would be better to get the cheaper version and then pick up wolfenstein for like $5 in some steam sale
>>337240287
keep eating up developer lies
i wont stop you from eating shit
>>337240341
did you expect a 20player co-op?
>>337240417
>I'm going to equate having fun playing a videogame to eating feces they're totally the same thing hahaha
>>337240287
The first video is the game from an actual retail copy. Your video is the devs trying to show off their game to potential buyers at a high end gpu unveiling
Guess which one is probably more honest
>>337240510
you expect shills to believe in truth?
>>337240417
>you're not as fast as you can possibly be in the first two minutes of the game
>it must be developer lies!
If you had read anything about the game you'd know there's upgrades you can get that make you move faster.
game looks more fun than overwatch zozzle
>>337240247
You can switch weapons needlessly in nearly every game ever. What point are you trying to make?
>>337240662
You're the one caught on the switching weapons shtick that I never fucking mentioned, hombre.
>>337240639
So when you play the game for who knows how long it's slow, and the whole of the game is designed around being playable at that slower speed
>>337240813
I don't see how one is more honest than the other. It's like saying the gameplay videos of Prototype are dishonest because you don't have maxed out Sprint Speed and Jump Height at the beginning of the game.
>>337240487
No but I expect a 6v6 cpma match on q3dm6
>>337240510
Yeah they're OBVIOUSLY artificially speeding the game up for no reason and they're going to withhold the version of the game that lets you do that because that'd work in their favor. Obviously.
Bought it for £22. Only buying it for Nightmare mode.
>>337239523
>some make it look bad
Explain your thought process to me on how you reached this conclusion. It looks bad therefore they're intentionally sabotaging the game, is that it?
>>337241209
>only buying it for nightmare mode
get ready to do glory kills over and over
>>337237304
Are you from the DOOM facebook group?
>>337241348
You understand you have to damage them first, right?
But yeah, I know I'm going to be disappointed.
>>337189696
>his palms SPAGHETTI
>knees weak, arms SPAGHETTI
>SPAGHETTI on his sweater already
>moms SPAGHETTI
>he's nervous
>but on the surface he looks calm SPAGHETTI
>to drop bombs
>but he keeps on SPAGHETTI
>what he wrote down
>the whole crowd goes SPAGHETTI
>he opens his mouth, but SPAGHETTI won't come out
>he's choking how, everybody's joking now
>the lines run out
>times up, over klow
>snap back to SPAGHETTI
>oh there goes SPAGHETTI
>shit I forgot the rest
>>337235438
not the beta, the leaked alpha
>>337240349
Thanks that's what seemed like the best thing to do. I suppose the BFG Edition doesn't change Resurrection of Evil too much. It's just for a one-time play like Doom 3 anyway.
>>337241348
You can turn off the glory kill glow in the settings...
>>337240349
>you can completely turn them off
this was false. you can only turn off the highlight of a glory kill, not the whole thing. one of the videos that got taken down revealed the options menu
>>337241449
More like "Ebin"em
>>337240349
You can turn off the highlights, but that's it. They're still in the game, still give out better health and ammo drops when you do them and the game is by and large designed around them being a featured component of the game
>>337220627
>have you played halo
Yes, I've played Halo CE
>have you played DOOM
Yes, I've played DOOM, all the Final DOOM levels, Doom 2 and its master levels, Doom 3 and Resurrection of Evil
>have you played doom2016
I played the leaked alpha
>Doom > halo=doom2016
Yes
>>337241697
>turn off highlights
>shoot enemies
>don't press the glory kill button
Congratulations, glory kills are now off
>>337241798
there will hardly be pickup items you know. you are pretty much forced to do them.
>but its optional
>but its just day 1 bugs
>m-mods will fix it
>D-Dlcs might be goo
The excuses are piling up
The new Doom is just Halo, and Halo is still babby's first FPS garbage.
/v/ is the minority. Literally everyone else loves this game. Check the steam forums. I'm glad I bought this for 59.99.
>>337241216
They could honestly be complete garbage at the game and not playing poorly at the lowest difficulty just to smear it, but given /v/ has had a hateboner from the moment the 2 second fucking teaser trailer released that doesn't matter. If I wanted to smear Classic Doom I could look up footage of someone playing it for the first time with arrow keys on Too Young To Die and it'd look pretty dull and primitive. If I wanted to say "Quake 3 is like Halo" I could look up some Xbox footage because they look similar when the players all have to use stick aim and can't strafejump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnSooGLTktM
>>337241798
>its the "but its optional" episode
Oh boy
>>337241983
>0.05$ as been deposited into your account -id
>>337241930
I watched the devs play some of the singleplayer and there were armor shards fucking everywhere
>>337238948
What are these colours?
>>337242216
>I watched the devs play
there's your problem.
>>337242005
>He thinks all of /v/ wanted Doom to be shit the moment it was announced
I was fucking pumped for a new Doom, but when they showed off that initial gameplay at E3 the glory kills just stuck out to me as a terrible design decision that overall slows down the gameplay
Actual retail video, the multiplayer and limiting "modding" to Snapmap hasn't made me any more hopeful
>>337196572
Preordered for my birthday. Comes with a spooky skeleton statue.
>>337233570
You can't you dumb fuck, that doesn't mean you have to try it
>>337242352
the multiplayer marines i assume
>>337242352
I think it's some kind of crossover garbage because Funko primarily sells to capeshit fans.
>>337189696
Okay OP you son of a bitch I'll bitch.
Do 90 free is remembered because it broke new ground and gave a something fresh and original for the time.
Doom 2016 on the other hand doesn't.
While it didn't become a halo clone as feared it is a 'Doom Clone'. It should not get free prise for doing the same thing at predecessor did almost 25 years ago.
I fucking bet 60 whole buck that this game will be easy as fuck even on the second hardest difficulty
that means I will buy the game if the pirated version disappoints me
wait, that is some backwards ass logic
>>337242765
Lol as if they weren't lame enough
>>337242906its easy and short. leaks confirmed them
>>337242005
got you senpai
https://youtu.be/e-N5nrDjZRo?t=450
fucking sale on steam when. every site and their moms sells the game for like under 40eurodollars
I have 40 card jew money and want to get it at that price
>>337242005
Let me get this straight. You're saying because /v/ hates the game, we must therefore not consider the possibility that the guy may just be playing poorly (which we can't even determine because the only comparison we have is gameplay from developers who have a motive to sell the game) and conclude that he is out to smear the game, implying he shares the same mindset as the collective negative whole you define as "/v/" even though we have many people in this board who want the game to be good, just like you. Do you realize how fucking paranoid and black and white you're seeing this situation right now?
>If I wanted to smear Classic Doom
>If I wanted to say "Quake 3 is like Halo"
We don't know if the guy playing the game is making it look bad, we don't even know what difficulty level he's playing on, you're just jumping to conclusions that's convenient to fit the preconceived notions you have of this game. This is really just sad.
>>337241656
nice meme
I'll just leave this here...
https://youtu.be/WLToGa1bNFc
>>337242973
Of course it is. Making a challenging game would significantly hurt profit margins.
>>337242973
wow
I mean isn't that false advertising even when those matters are kinda subjective?
ill never understand why the people who upload gaming videos are so fucking bad at games. And im not talking about randoms. The most popular uploaders are bad.
>>337242403
>the glory kills just stuck out to me as a terrible design decision that overall slows down the gameplay
I feel like a bunch of people told id that brutal doom was the best thing ever and to just make that but with graphics, so they did.
Could have turned out worse.
>>337243529
I feel like it's some sort of illuminati shit where major video releases play bad so they can say it's a hard game
>>337241983
Did you look at the Steam reviews for the multiplayer "beta"?
Everyone was trashing it, I don't think I saw a single positive review on there. In fact only about 35% of the reviews were positive.
>>337243960
But still it's the second most sold game on steam right now, the only thing beating it is this 4x strategy game that seems to be the second coming of christ for people who like strategy games.
>>337203210
>does he just try to act as pretentious as possible.
This one.
>>337244065
>the only thing beating it is this 4x strategy game that seems to be the second coming of christ for people who like strategy games.
Oh yeah, what game is that??
>>337244456
Civ VI?
>>337244456
>>337244579
Stellaris
>>337243325
>Guys the developers changed their game JUST for previews JUST to sell the game and the final game won't be anything like it for real if you don't believe you're paranoid!!!!
Seriously? I never said he is out to smear the game. I could take a video from someone who is honestly just playing Ultimate Doom poorly, like >>337242994 did, and disingenuously imply that that's the only way the game is when there's a lot of footage saying otherwise. This is the same situation, I've seen candid leaked footage from people who got the game early and it looked exactly the same as the marketing footage from the SP stream, nowhere near as bad as that guy managed to make it look. Nobody's latching onto that stuff, though; /v/'s vendetta against Bethesda is stronger than the desire for any new game to possibly be entertaining.
>We don't know if the guy playing the game is making it look bad, we don't even know what difficulty level he's playing on, you're just jumping to conclusions that's convenient to fit the preconceived notions you have of this game. This is really just sad.
You could say the same thing for yourself and most of the people responding to that post with some really minor alterations.
>>337192446
The article was, I guess, supposed to be about how games change to fit modern audiences, but instead the artist took it as an opportunity to say that video games are literally less stimulating than wood blocks and are for children, and that if you like video games you literally have the brain of a child. Even tumblr was like, "this guy is full of shit".
>buy
lol no
>>337243563
>I feel like a bunch of people told id that brutal doom was the best thing ever and to just make that but with graphics, so they did.
They really didn't, though. They basically just copied a single feature (melee executions) that in Brutal Doom only becomes available if you have the Berserk pack for the current level and even then going in for a melee kill is very much not an "always use it on everything" strategy.
Beyond that the gore in D44M is nowhere near on the levels of Brutal Doom - just look at the gameplay footage in >>337243378 and you pretty much just get some blood particle effects on hits and some gibs and full bodies left on the floor after combat and that's it. Pretty much the only blood and gore in the environment is pre-baked.
Now compare it to basically any gameplay of Brutal Doom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzYliSASKc
The blood and gore is on a whole another level and makes for a very fun and visceral experience. D44M is just incredibly bland in comparison.
>>337189696
>1993
>actually has a dark and dreadfull atmosphere
>2016
>looks like borderlands and world of warcraft because the masses like a more casual art design
>>337201052
cracked was fucking hilarious in like 2010
>>337189696
>FTFY.
Also the entire campaign was streamed yesterday. It was shit.
>"Cinematics" crap, everywhere
>constant need to exploit glory kills, as you don't get enough supplies from maps
>upgrade system(s) pretty much obligatory, as the guns are all total pea-shooters at first (a possessed guy can take 3-round burst to the face and not die!)
>ending is literally "Lol, look forward to teh sequel, goy!"
It wont feel right having sections of the level above and below other sections of the level
>>337245878
I think the levels of gore in Brutal DOOM go beyond stupid. I'm a total gorehound, but Brutal DOOM's gore is just kind of lame too me because of how overdone it it, I can't really explain it. The level of gore in vanilla DOOM and even DOOM 2016 are perfect in my opinion.
I just hope they have the same sort of map designs where the game feels like you're playing through a maze or labyrinth, but with guns, that's what I liked about Doom, even more so on Nightmare because revisiting same places too much had you facing enemy respawns.
>>337247352
I know what you mean.
BD literally has too much ketchup in everything, just for the sake of having red stuff flying around. It lacks weight, fluidity, and grittiness.
D44M on the otherhand is very disappointing, IMO. We got games like Killing Floor 2, with super detailed dynamic damage system, but the new-doom only lets you blow up a head off / turn the enemy into gibs / etc, and the corpses melt away in few seconds.
>>337248067
>I just hope they have the same sort of map designs where the game feels like you're playing through a maze or labyrinth,
They don't. It's more or less all linear, with a few "branching paths" every now and then, as in a locked yellow door in one end, and the route where you'll find it at the other.
You will also get locked into rooms and do long enemy-wave battles, all the time.
>>337189696
daily reminder that Finnish gaming press hates Doom4.
>>337243378
>console gameplay
That's unflattering for any first person game, tbf
>>337248810
brutal
>>337248810
SUOMI MAINITTU
>>337200454
>doing more means you're more stupid.
>less is more thats how I look at it lol!
>im retarded
>>337189696
No
Is anyone who's actually played DOOM 1 or 2 getting it? I feel like people are going 'NOSTALGIA FAG' etc even though they've never played DOOM.
>>337249507rauhoita nännis
I'm getting it but i'm pretty sure ill return it fast and dislike it but i'm holding out alittle hope since the MP Beta was atleast alittle fun.
I'm gonna distance myself from my love of DOOM1/2 well playing it though and treat it like a stand alone thing to see if that will make it atleast decent.
>>337249507
>TORI.exe
day -2 fucking patches
how does that even work
i want to be hype
please help me /v/
>>337252331
we dont help the shill
I'm continuously baffled by /v/'s verdict of doom already. I get hating on the more "modern" elements, like QTE melee, season passes, .ect. It's a shitty aspect of modern gaming.
But saying it "looks nothing like doom" is absolutely contradictory and illogical. It looks enough like doom to be associated with the brand. Like, what did you expect? A 1:1 recreation of each level? Would "modern" graphics ruin it for you? The same shitty 1st person perspective where the gun sticks out of your chest? Running at upwards of 60mph?
The game emulates what made doom good, but doom was only ever the most BASIC shooter. It excelled at it, and it was the first one to do it, but christ, it's like being mad a ford for making the Ford Escape and claiming "it's nothing like the model T".
If a perfect recreation of doom in say, unreal engine, came out, and it wasn't associated with a brand you all played when you were kids, then you would all hate it, guaranteed.
>>337252950
Fuck off
>>337253047
oh no someone on the web told me to fuck off, guess I better do it!
>>337249910
I did, when I was seven or eight. Got the shareware for Knee Deep in the Dead and it blew my mind and I had thought Wolfenstein was the coolest shit ever.
And yeah, I'm getting the new Doom.
>>337252950
Maybe it's nostalgia but i think people just like to be angry and complain and 4chan gives them an outlet to do so.
>>337252950
>The game emulates what made doom good
Okay, I'll bite.
What made Doom good, in your opinion?
>>337253721
Fast pacing, weapon variety, enemy variety. Doesn't take itself too seriously. It just hands you a gun and says "have fun". NuDoom seems to be trying to do just that, but also compete in the gaming market.
No. It looks good, but I only want it for single player since the multiplayer is shit so I'll wait for a sale.
>>337254209
It doesn't have fast pacing though, and the glory kills inherently hinder such a thing
>>337253721
I mean Doom is only so successful because not only of it's incredibly solid design, but because of the circumstances it was created in. It got a TON of publicity due to the post-columbine world of trying to correlate violence with violent video games, as well as the whole satanist panic. It was gory and adult themed, so for all of us kids it was edgy and cool . Doom is successful because of so much more than just what it plays like. So comparing the dynasty of "classic doom" against a brand new IP is just asking to be disappointed.
>>337254209
I want to add something to your point of "enemy variety" something that I've been missing for the last 10 years
Enemies that NEEDED different tactics and strategies in order to be efficiently disposed
>>337254209
>Fast pacing
Well this game doesn't have that, just watch the gameplay videos. Half the time it's uneventful exploration where the game encourages the player to wander around, clamber up some obstacles, do some platforming, go to weapon kiosks to upgrade weapons, look for secrets and listen to all the talking holograms and the robot talking in your ear and half the time it's arena combat. The pacing is very unlike the original Doom.
>>337254380
Fast pacing is a completely subjective experience anyway. Just look at the PC footage vs PS4 footage. When I was a kid I was always terrified of getting ambushed by demons so I moved extremely slow. Does that invalidate my experience with classic doom?
>>337189696
Would a cool ass faggot like me be able to run it well on 960m?
>>337255175
Signs point to no.
>>337255003
>Just look at the PC footage vs PS4 footage
I have. The PS4 footage is footage of the actual game with a retail copy (and is slow), while the PC footage is footage provided by the devs made to play faster than it actually does to help sell the game
You don't think the PC version just plays faster than the console one, do you?
>>337255175
As someone who played the beta on a 940m, id say if you like to game at 29 fps, then no
>>337200057
>>337255443
I shoot blanks and I give thanks. And I'm all out of blanks.
>Buying it at full price
>Buying it before the devs patch bugs
>Buying it before they release the GOTY edition with all DLCs
>>337246942
Source?
>>337254535
Classic Doom has the whole deal where enemies fill roles and can play to the level design and I feel that with all the "Enemies are like chess pieces!" stuff in interviews they're trying to do that, but all the moving away from "Gameyness" since Doom 2 and every enemy needing to have a billion animations, hunt the player and scale the environment because it's cool and impressive interferes with that end goal by making everything needlessly complex when the way enemies filled their role originally was facilitated by everything being more abstract and simplified with each enemy revolving around one or two main mechanics rather than a bunch of crazy attack patterns and the ability to path through exceedingly complex arenas.
>>337255753
>Buying it before Jesus comes back from the dead to give it his personal endorsement
>>337189696
>Faceless
>Fast
>No cutscenes
>>337255864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAU3W99a04&ab_channel=futurist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDKk2tyDfLg&ab_channel=BeardedGaming
Not too surprising Beth-fucks took the videos off. I did download the second one on my HDD though.
>>337255453
>>337255453
Do you understand what "subjective" means? It means that you can play the game as fast or as slow as you want. The guy was playing doom like most people play doom, hopping around, switching weapons and shit. The other guy was clearly retarded and playing on an easy difficulty and playing extremely slowly. Can you comprehend that?
Every time I see threads about the new Doom I load up the original and it's still as good as it ever was.
They should have gone the way of Mega Man 9 and made Doom 4 on the original engine.
>>337208115
This.
>Why don't you do something more productive and mentally stimulating than video games, like watching movies or reading books?
>Watch movies
>2 hours of sitting on your hands and just absorbing a story that is inferior to those found in books because it has to be crammed into a 2-hour window and appeal to the lowest common denominator
>Nothing to show for it afterwards, other than brief water cooler conversation or a smug sense of critique over the medium
>Reading books
>Many hours of just sitting quietly, looking at words and hallucinating, absorbing a story, requiring no input and producing no variation once you've read it once
>Nothing to show for it afterwards other than a smug sense of intellectualism because you "read books" unlike all the uneducated plebs, and potentially a slightly expanded perspective on life
>Play video games
>Many hours of actively providing input to solve puzzles, progress a story, prove victorious in combat, explore an immersive world that you actually feel like a part of, engage in dialogue, unlock features and elements, and in some cases, even arrange scenarios and create your own narrative within the game
>Many more hours of entertainment after the story comes to a close, in the form of alternate dialogues and story trees, different skillsets and play styles, uncovering secrets and easter eggs, unlocking every game element, just generally creating your own narrative and "making your own fun", challenging yourself/others at speed/point competitions, providing different results every time you go back to the game
>Can see accomplishments in the form of unlocked game elements, story progression, character development/progression, power/skill level within the game, IRL logical problem-solving skills, IRL reaction times, IRL hand-eye coordination, and, even though I hate them, "achievements" as a badge to prove to everyone that you accomplished these in-game feats instead of just reading a wiki about them.
>>337256819
>>337256819
I mean literal movement speed
It was slower in the retail copy
>>337256768
The game isn't supposed to out yet, they've been DMCAing videos that make the game look good too.
>>337256768
can you reup it somewhere
If someone downloaded the D44M streams, upload them somewhere and dont name it DOOM. name something else.
Shills are still defending this blunder of a game
>>337256015
Yeah, that's one of the problems I've noticed with the game. Most enemies follow the player around so agilely across platforms and obstacles so their roles and the layouts of the arenas just get blurred and the end result is that the only thing the player ends up doing in every encounter is running around making sure not to get cornered.
Another problem is that the monster usage is inconsistent as fuck. Some encounters have mancubi hopping across obstacles and following you while some encounters just have them standing in place even if they have plenty of room to move around.
plz don't tell me there's an AI robofaggot talking in my ear through the whole game.
>>337241209
>>>337200658
>tattoos
>diabetes and heart plaque body
>perfect metaphor for nuDOOM
>>337257130
Zenimax and Beth-fucks DMCA anything that could even remotely hurt their reputation. Even if the footage would be legit and openly available otherwise.
They even denied media from getting review copies, which already should ring alarm bells for anyone who knows anything about the industry.
>>337189696
I'll go buy the CE on day 1 if the Revenant looks as good as advertised.
>>337257686
It's optional, you can just mute the audio
>>337257686
>plz don't tell me there's an AI robofaggot talking in my ear through the whole game.
OK, I won't tell you then.
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