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Is /v/ really THAT uninterested in Witcher 3?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7z2KBdWBmo
>single player game months old
Move on.
>>337179082
>Is /v/ really THAT uninterested in Witcher 3?
We had two or three threads, but TW3 isn't exactly one of /v/'s darlings.
Anyways, pretty damn excited for B&W, moreso than full releases of games this year.Regis is confirmed back
>>337179082
Is the "30 hours" another understatement? I fucking hope they mean 30 hours of ACTUAL QUESTS and not just some tedious points of interest busy work...
>>337179082
I love the series and have logged hundreds of hours into each of the three games. Didn't get around to beating the first DLC, going to do it before this hits.
But, something about the witcher series, the combat has honestly always been a bit lackluster. But it isn't just the mechanics, you play as a monster slayer but none of the monsters or fights are challenging or memorable. The satisfaction for me comes from the characters, the world and the story. Not so much the combat.
Hate to make the comparison because it's so common ,but I only do so because it just came out, but take dark souls 3 for example, I definitely memorize enemy types, I can look to one and say, yea the best way to come at this is X or this enemy type is fucking annoying etc. It's not limited to that game though, dragon's dogma is another. Or even regular doom, you see a cyberdemon, it excites the shit out of you, you want to fuck him up.
I just don't get that with the witcher. Even if you play on the hardest mode, enemies just become health sponges that deal higher damage and nothing more really, other than that you put some more time into building and using potions, playing more cautious, but you still go at the enemies pretty much the same.
>>337180790
Witcher 3 is story first and gameplay second
Hence why it will likely be forgotten completely by next year. Dark Souls games are all about the gameplay and even though their story/lore is underrated, it's simply not on the level of Witcher 3s because it is not the focus. Because of this Bloodborne/Dark Souls 3 will be remembered for many years to come just like Dark Souls 1 was (and is).
It's really that simple.
>>337181006
Yea, I know. I said as much, the value comes from the chars/story/world, which is fine, but given the role you play and who you are, it would benefit a lot from more sound gameplay.
Makes me curious about cyberpunk, I really want to see how they tackle gameplay in that. CDPR definitely tries really hard with the gameplay aspect and it has improved drastically with each game, but it feels like they're off. I'd like to see if it's because of the world and who Geralt is and the genre we're playing, or something with the team.
>>337180790
Yeah, even griffons and fiends become boring and easy to fight after a while
>>337180115
Normally I disregard dev's claims about game length, but CDPR wasn't wrong about how long TW3 and Hearts of Stone were, at least when I played them.
>>337180115
HoS was about as long as they said it was, complete with actual meaty content and shit. Will hopefully be the case here.
we had 2 or 3 threads go 400+ replies earlier today regarding B&W and Witcher 3
the hype has died down until the full trailer is released in a few weeks
>>337179082
i am beyond hype. witcher 1 is still max comfy tho
>>337179082
>Is /v/ really THAT uninterested in Witcher 3?
Western crap fuck off.
I'll get onto it after I get bored of MGSV
>>337179082
Those sweet 60 FPS
How long would it take me to get to any of the DLC from the start of the game?
I have a NG+ but when I log in I always feel so overwhelmed with everything I've unlocked and shit.
>>337182913
oh go away weeabo
witcher 1 > 2 > 3
prove me wrong
>>337183140
You pretty much have to beat the base game before it becomes viable to play the DLC.
>>337181006
I can barely remeber DS3 and I last played it last week, all the while I still remember even little details about W3 which I last played last year
my point being: you are full of shit BB baby
and I hope I didn't just fall for some cheap bait
>>337183046
Witcher 3 is the WRPG equivalent of MGSV. Large boring maps, repetitive combat, filler rehash quests, collecting trinkets on the map to craft better shit and pad the game, following a glowing trail everywhere, anticlimactic ending, though wonky as it is at least there's some kind of boss battle.
Draw distance looks much improved. Velen has this insane fog to cover the distance LOD but this looks improved overall
>>337183335
MGSV has good gameplay though
>>337183316
Screencap DS3 in your steam library with thread in background
Witcher 3 died out quicker than the Division, your anecdotal evidence won't disprove how dead Witcher 3 is even compared to Dark Souls 1
every fucking witcher thread soulsfags come around an bitch and moan about it
but The Witcher 3 is still and will always be GotY 2015, BB won't, just finally fucking accept that holy shit
and DS3 was mediocre shit too, Blood and Wine will probably win GotY over that boring snoozefest
>>337183627
>in comes the insecure Witcherbabby
Everytime, how does it feel knowing Dark Souls 1 and 2 have more people playing it than Witcher 3?
>>337180790
They improved a lot with the bosses in HoS and hopefully they will be even better in B&W.
Also some of the monsters & bosses in TW2 was pretty damn tough and memorable. Especially the first fight with Letho and The Operator, sadly the latter boss is optional and very easy to miss.
>>337181006
Witcher games won't be forgotten in the same way mass effect isnt, a series which also had serviceable combat at best.
>>337183627
DS3 was pretty fantastic m8, maybe if you played the game you wouldn't have to shitpost over it.
Blood and Wine should be a good time sink until the Dark Souls 3 DLCs release.
The Witcher is the Mass Effect of fantasy.
It won't be forgotten
>>337183335
Nah, I really liked the world in TW3. There's actually stuff to interact with and manages to feel like a real world. Even with its invisible walls, it still feels like one of the largest open worlds I've played in.
The sidequests I almost always found interesting, at least in dialogue. But holy fuck are you right about Witcher senses. Almost ruins the game, it's just too fucking overused.
>>337179224
>"I have absolute shit taste in video games"
I hope someone updates Reshade day0, because I hate the yellow tint of the vanilla game.
>>337184364
Mass Effect had 2 legitimately fantastic games (widely accepted as the best RPGs of their respective releases) and even ME3 was fantastic gameplay wise and even story wise up until the ending / other minor shit tier areas (The Denton tier edgelord).
I love the Witcher series, but Witcher 1 and 2 were complete slogs to play through. Witcher 3 was pretty great though.
>>337180115
Oh shut the fuck up. They only claimed an additional 10 hours for Heart of Stone and I easily got over 20 out of it.
>>337184548
ME1 was a bad shooter, and the entire core gameplay is third person shooter stuff.
>>337179082
I don't like witcher games
the gameplay is shit
>>337184548
Mass effect 3 was a gears knock off in everything but story.
And Witcher 2 was a legitimately fantastic game.
>>337183627
>>337184007
fuck off, both Witcher 3 and Dark Souls 3 were legitimately great games, Bloodborne was well. I might prefer Souls games but it doesn't stop me from liking Witcher 3.
Take the bitch fest elsewhere.
>>337184452
>But holy fuck are you right about Witcher senses. Almost ruins the game, it's just too fucking overused.
This is my biggest gripe, it really CONFLICTS with the side quests. Each side quest felt unique and original but when you realize it's nothing more than follow some red lines then it completely negates whatever sense of originality it may have had.
Oblivion/New Vegas and VtMB are the three games with the best side quests i've ever played in an RPG.
Pic related. The origin of the image comes from a Witcher 3 shitposter but I had to save it because it really does show just how fucking cancerous those witcher senses are.
Thankfully, in the small gameplay demo for B&W the quests seem siginificantly more dynamic (with the guard who was cralwing across the ground after being torn apart) and I hope this expansion doesn't rely on them too much.
>enemies have a stamina system
>can still block forever with no stamina
Fuck this game.
>>337184548
The problem with Mass Effect 2 is that the beginning and the end are great but everything in the middle feels like a long recruiting mission
Looks fucking awesome. Everyone btfo
>>337180115
90 quests. At 30 hours that's an average of 20 minutes per quest. Sounds reasonable
>>337184609
And Witcher 3 is a bad fantasy tier action game, still a legitimately great game.
The core gameplay was significantly more enjoyable and tactical than Witcher 3 as well as more varied.
>>337184785
Witcher 2 was worse than Witcher 1 in every way, the piece of shit had QTEs for fuck sake. The combat needs a literal mod to be tolerable and the "hit, hit, roll" oversimplifcation is anything but an oversimplification as much as it is fact.
Witcher 3 is the only worthwhile game in that series, Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 was hilariously shit. Witcher 1 at least felt like a Witcher game rather than some "muh politics" Game of Thrones try hard
>he's not taking a NG+ save into Blood and Wine for the added difficulty
Literally kill yourselves
http://www.strawpoll.me/10181258
>>337185218
>"I have shitty opinions"
>>337183627
Dark Souls 3 > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 1 > Witcher 3 > Demon Souls > Dark Souls 2 > dogshit > other Witcher games
>>337184907
I think Dishonored is a good example of an old school RPG in modern times. You just have to turn off the quest and objective markers. The game presents you with all the information in letters and shit like old school RPGs did, so its not like you have to rely on following a red trail because the game couldn't figure out a way to promote enhanced smell and hearing of Witchers
I am not against the red trails entirely, just need less of it.
>>337185218
You are the only person who thinks W1>W2
>>337185407
>shitty opinions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHukmQ3Loh4
Just read those comments senpai. Witcher 1s gameplay is cancer
Here's Mass Effect 1 for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZgwOyEU6TU
>>337185218
"muh politics" has been in all the books since before game of thrones was even in print. Maybe if you weren't so autistic you'd realize not every game needs dark souls tier combat to be good.
>>337185602
Literally every person on /wtc/ thinks Witcher 1 > Witcher 2. Even Superbunnyhop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZohodiFCOTU&list=PLAs2nBdQ-zEyOD0GYd7kzef0vR0dV8zTc) thinks Witcher 2 is the weakest Witcher game.
Outside of the admittedly cool choice at the half way point in the game, it was a complete chore to play.
I didn't think Witcher 1 and 2 were shit, I actually somewhat enjoyed them. They're just not "great" games by any means in my opinion.
Not the guy you're responding to btw.
>>337185523
I agree completely
who /regis/?
>>337185602
He isn't. W1's characters and quests are legitimately better than 2s. The gameplay is just super bad and the first part of the game is such a slog
>>337185603
Forgot ME1 let you crouch, why the fuck can't we have that in ME2 and 3?
>>337185218
This has to be bait
>>337185723
But that's the thing, Witcher games have "less than Fable 1" tier combat systems. Their combat is complete shit, Witcher 3 is at least serviceable and at times, "good", Witcher 1 and 2 on the otherhand are literal dogshit gameplay wise.
>"muh politics" has been in all the books since before game of thrones was even in print.
They were always focused on Witcheran first and foremost with sprinkles of politcs throughout, never on the scale of Witcher 2.
The majority of /v/ are shit eating weaboos who only like hated and obscure games,
Prove me wrong.
>>337186114
Dark Souls 3 is loved on /v/ and is anything but an obscure game.
Same with Deus Ex and Red Dead Redemption
>>337179082
not out for another 3 weeks. until then i'm play playing other games. all hype threads do is attract shitposting.
>>337186284
dark souls 3 will be hated in 2 weeks.
Every big game that comes out(that's available on pc), v non stop talks about for a couple weeks to a month, then when everyone who actually enjoys talking about the game gets tired of the game, only the shitposters remain
it happens every damn time.
>>337186562
Like the shitstorm when MGSV was released
>>337185806
I'm not surprised at all. CDPR wouldn't be stupid enough to have an expansion based around vampires and not include motherfucking Regis. Even didn't need that promo picture to confirm it.
>>337185858
>>337185780
Nah, the story in W1 becomes fanfic-tier and almost a caricature of the books especially towards the end (with absurd things like the Order super mutants). The Witcher 2's story is the best of the 3 games by far.
>>337186562
Its already pretty hated, its not as good level design wise as DS1 meaning it just leads to threads over people fighting over dumb shit
>>337186774
>the game with the least witcherin has the best story
No. HoS has the best story in all the games. The main game would have been better if it wasn't focused on world saving and fighting off the wild hunt. Too fucking grand.
>>337186949
Ok, point conceded about HoS
>paid shill trying to keep his dead game's thread on front page
try harder shill, your shekles arent earned by being lazy!
>>337186562
>dark souls 3 will be hated in 2 weeks.
Cool senpai. Call me when it happens
>>337186949
>Its already pretty hated,
No it's not
>its not as good level design wise as DS1
Uwot? Did you fucking play DS1? The whole second half was literal dogshit whereas DS3 remains consistently great throughout. It's slightly more linear than those games but it's by no means even remotely "hated" or "not as good".
>>337179082
I'll buy the season pass tomorrow, haven't played or read anything about the first expansion. Is it good?
>>337185523
>You just have to turn off the quest and objective markers.
Just do the same in Witcher 3. You get enough information from NPCs and most of the time you pretty much only ever have to use Witcher senses to trigger quests to update to the next part.
>>337185916
Witcher 2 had some great Witcher stuff going on as well, such as Keyran+optional preparation, mental hospital, all the optional Vran shit, sisters at the beach etc etc. The comfy witcheran stuff just wasn't the focus in the main story line.
>>337179082
Witcher 3 is dumbed down drek for bioware fans who want a bioware game without the stigma of bioware
>>337187227
HoS is the best part of the franchise so far. It improves on the main TW3 game in every way.
It's a thread about witcher 3.
Not "witcher 3 vs BB vs metal gear vs skyrim vs sonyggers deathmatch thread" or "lets define what rpg means once and for all"
Final fantasy IX abest
Anyone got a screenshot of the hot spring with naked women on Skellige? That place was comfy as fuck
>>337187293
Doesn't solve the problem of following red trails in every other quest. For sound Witcher sense, just have distinct sounds to follow. For blood trails/footsteps, have actual fucking blood textures leaving a trail and footsteps/fucked up grass
Can't wait for the new prostitute models.
dark souls 3 is a game for underage memesters to spam >le hardest game in between dropping exploit-duped items onto other player's save files causing those innocent players to get banned by shitty anti-cheat software. dark souls 3 is garbage, and older games were harder than le hardest gaem ever made by superior nippon devs
witcher 3, meanwhile, is just further proof that developers need to put an end to this open sandbox world bullshit that Todd has popularized. just because you CAN make a huge empty world, at the expense of having to put in more filler content and dumb-down your grafix, doesn't mean you SHOULD. Witcher 3 likely would've looked, played and generaly been better if they had tried to still keep tighter zones. Even Bethesda games are wearing out their welcome showing how the formula judging by how weak F4llout's performance was. Holy shit it just fell out of memory as soon as paid marketers moved on to the next job.
>>337185383
But NG+ is easier because the only hard part is early on when you have shit abilities, modifiers, and potions.
>>337189009
NG+ is definitely not easier. Some bosses in HoS on New Game+ are legit challenging whereas in my first playthrough they were easy as FUCK. Take caretaker for example
>>337181006
repetitive game play revolving around timing iframes compared to the best rpg ever made in modern times
keep telling yourself dark souls is good
>>337180790
I'm not really sure what direction they should take the combat in though other than please god no bamham asscreed combat. It works great for some games but the witcher certainly doesn't feel like one of those games. They could take it a sort of warband/chivalry without declaring bugs features spinning crap, or maybe make it more like in the jedi knight games but that would feel a little too cheesy for a medieval game, there's also that indie game but the combat in it looks so clunky. And I doubt making it like an old fashioned rpg like morrowind would be received well at all. What would you guys do?
>>337184907
>removing the autism from rpgs
>bad
ok bud
>>337189598
books are canon to the games, they limit how geralt can combat enemies
they could add all sorts of shit to make it more flashy but then it would be generic fantasy not witcher
>>337189507
>repetitive game play revolving around timing iframes compared to the best rpg ever made in modern times
But Skyrim is better than Witcher 3
We'll just play the fucking thing to get info.
>>337189598
I think the combat was the best we could get. It has to have the same combat system for fighting 5+ human enemies while also being able to handle 1 giant beast with the same mechanics. Even Souls has big problems with enemy spam, it always comes back to roll/dash away and just kite them around. Souls games are only challenging on bosses, and when they throw 2 annoying enemies at the same time in a shitty room where you get clipped through walls by arms and shit.
>>337179082
>Is /v/ really THAT uninterested in Witcher 3?
Yes. I enjoyed it when I played it at launch, but now I just can't come back to it. The gameplay is terrible, and I simply can no longer deal with it.
>>337190018
>I only started playing games
>ignore me
>>337190160
Souls works purely due to its stamina metre. When I can walk into a pack of wolves/enemies with my block up and literally stand there forever (taking away a handful of enemy types that can knock you out of this stance) then it just shows you everything you need to know about Witcher 3s gameplay.
>>337180790
I enjoy the combat over any other sword and magic games. I think the witcher 3 on the hardest difficulty is second only to dark souls. The mixture of magic, sword fighting, and parrying is really satisfying on higher difficulties. Too bad I accidentally deleted my 60+hour save when reformatting my PC. Can't work up the motivation to start a new one.
>>337188809
>the game is bad because the community is bad
Kill yourself.
>>337190214
you realize you can turn off quality of life features like witcher sense? or just not pay attention to it? I dont see how having maps and ui features is a bad thing
>>337190549
> I think the witcher 3 on the hardest difficulty is second only to dark souls
Then you haven't played many games. Dragons Dogma shits on Witcher 3 for difficulty, same with most Elder Scrolls games. Witcher 3 on Death March is hilariously easy.
>>337190613
>you realize you can turn off quality of life features like witcher sense?
So how do you:
>follow smells?
And literally 99% of the quests do not give you directions to your location. Shit, you literally HAVE to put on Witcher senses to ACTIVATE certain items so Geralt can comment on them and move the story/quest along.
>>337190435
I think Souls works due to the level design. Its all enclosed and most enemies have leashes. Its always annoying that the best strategy is to play like a bitch. That and you can hit enemies through walls and they definitely don't seem bothered that they can hit you through walls. When a giant monster clips his arm through the wall to hit you, that shit is a joke
>>337190549
Dragons Dogma is significantly harder than Witcher 3, it's even arguably harder than Souls games.
It's also more satisfying but I do admit that Witcher 3s combat is at the very least serviceable.
>>337190782
following smells makes sense, how else can you replicate smell other than a trail that updates as you get closer? and for other quests you can just not use the senses until you find the object and then tap to see if its right. not so hard
>>337190870
>Its all enclosed and most enemies have leashes.
? Souls games rarely encounter this issue aside from Dark Souls 2? By enclosed what do you mean exactly?
> Its always annoying that the best strategy is to play like a bitch.
Except it isn't if you know what you're doing, the best strategy is ALWAYS parrying if you're good enough.
Oh and using "Quen" isn't a bitch way/best strategy?
>When a giant monster clips his arm through the wall to hit you, that shit is a joke
The shit is an acknowledged problem in Souls games and arguably (outside of funky hitboxes now and again) the only main issue with the combat. It rarely happens though.
I would say being able to hold up a block infinitely for 99% of the enemies in Witcher 3 is infinitely greater of an issue.
>>337190972
You said "turn off Witcher senses". This was a lie and I gave two exact examples as to why. Backpeddaling doesn't strengthen your argument.
>>337190961
>He thinks Dogma is hard
You're fucking joking right? I mean, I love the game but come on. The only even remotely challenging things in the game are multiple drake/wyrm/wyverns in BBI. Mostly due to bullshit.
As for OPs question... I tried Witcher 3. The story seemed interesting but the game play was really bad. I don't know how people enjoy the story when it's bogged down with such boring gameplay.
>>337191320
>you realize you can turn off quality of life features like witcher sense? or just not pay attention to it? I dont see how having maps and ui features is a bad thing
>or just not pay attention to it?
do you just read the one part of an argument you can say something about and ignore the rest? lmao stop posting
>>337191342
>Dragon Dogma isn't hard
Fucking kill yourself, it's significantly more challenging than Witcher 3.
The DLC itself is fucking ridiculous.
>Mostly due to bullshit.
That alone says it all, you likely got rekt and claimed "i-it's cheap" hence why you're so salty over the game.
Just compare the final bosses of both games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK3zT4VJcTc - Dragons Dogma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf99Nr1CphE - Witcher 3
I hate to be that guy, but I just got into The Witcher 3, and is every quest going to be:
1. Arrive on location
2. Talk to somebody/use your Witcher senses
3. Walk like thirty feet in one direction
4. Fight some guys/monsters
5. Complete quest
?
I liked that one quest where you brew Swallow for the girl, and riding around to all the points on the map in that very first area, but every other quest has been really samey.
Also, the Ability Points I get all seem to just increase my original powers incrementally, without any interesting ways to use my powers besides convincing people and breaking doors down. Does this expand at all later on, or will it all be "+5% to sign intensity"?
>>337191539
>you realize you can turn off quality of life features like witcher sense
>turn off
You factually cannot turn them off and progress through the game, lmao stop back peddaling
>>337185383
>people actually voting for a Vanilla playthrough
I fucking HOPE people who have the choice aren't doing this. I understand if you've only completed the game once but if you've got a NG+ playthrough and don't choose that over a vanilla save then you are literally confirmed to be a bitch ass scrub
>>337190972
They would need NPCs at quest locations mentioning smell, OR have Geralt mention animals run away from such smells and go to where nearby animals are running away from.
>>337191195
Enclosed as in alot of tight spaces and lack of breathing room in encounter areas.
>>337191342
Yeah I would agree Dogma isn't that hard. The hardest part of the base game is the 2 Ogres in the Quarry. The Ogre in the Everfall will 100% kill himself. Dogma has the same problem as Witcher when it comes to difficulty, you hit a powerspike after a rough early game and the game never picks back up difficulty wise. Once you stop running around in rags and have good weapons the game is just easy
Legitimately the hardest part of my Mage/Sorcerer run was the pack of Bandits up that pathway with the rolling boulder. Everyone knows that encounter. Like level <10 shit.
>>337191689
this is the option I was referring to
highlighted in red for you since youre retarded and I was taught to be nice to retards
lmao familia
>>337191831
I might do vanilla only because I recently did a new save file to do vanilla+HoS and I don't want to finish that and then redo everything on NG+
>>337191832
>Enclosed as in alot of tight spaces and lack of breathing room in encounter areas.
Name me 5 areas purely designed around enclosed/tight spaces in any of the Dark Souls/Bloodborne games (not including Dark Souls 2 - That game is admittedly shit).
You're flat out lying, especially with Dark Souls 3.
>you hit a powerspike after a rough early game
Except you don't. You get a initial spike, then it becomes easy then you get another spike at the Wyvern (that many people mistakingly fight early on) then it becomes managable then you get another few spikes (Everfall for example) and then the DLC is just one big huge fuckfest.
The scaling with difficulty in Dragons Dogma was pretty damn good, the game is significantly harder than Witcher 3 anyway.
>>337191650
Side quests and main quests usually have investigation and choice.
Monster Hunts are as you described, some side quests too.
>>337191906
>"turn off Witcher senses"
>You can't do that
>"i-i actually meant a completely different thing partially related to Witcher senses, y-you retard!"
Holy shit, just stop anytime famalan.
>>337179082
Yes it was a downgraded boring hack and slash with crap combat and bugs everywhere.
>>337191592
>Thinks either game is hard.
Neither game is challenging you fucking casualbaddie. Go back to nintendo.
>>337191832
>Dogma has the same problem as Witcher when it comes to difficulty
Pretty much this exactly. The start of the game may get you killed a couple times but as soon as you start getting decent gear the games faceroll. Also L2buffstack if you think BBI is hard.
>>337191906
That's your fault, not his. Make your points more clear next time, calling him a retard for not interpreting what you meant only makes you look like the retard
>>337192086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et_MaBD8Rgw
Git gud. Dragon's dogma is so easy to cheese.
>>337192251
>Neither game is challenging you fucking casualbaddie
BBi is legitimately challenging, same with Everfall. The game overall was significantly more challenging than Bloodborne or Dark Souls 1 for me anyway.
Point is, Dragons Dogma is definitely more challenging than Witcher 3.
>>337192435
>be over leveled/geared and use a cheese tactic
You don't even need to do any of that to cheese in Witcher 3.
>walk right into a pack of bandits and hold block = Invincinble
>twirl your way through the final boss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99PfacV1BBA)
Literally don't even need to try to cheese effectively in Witcher 3
>>337191831
I beat the game 3 times on vanilla before NG+ even came out, cba running it through NG+ now
