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Who would win in a fight?
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>>337117214
The hunter
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>>337117335
He wouldn't be able to land a single hit on a havelstoc.
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>>337117485
ACB and Execs Gauntlets could.
You act like havelstoc could hit the hunter too.
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The guy with the guns
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Demon's souls' one soulsuck and ruining firestorm
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I mean, the hoontah is really fast, has crazy iframes, and heals by doing damage after getting hit. He also owns a cannon, which isn't very fair.
Out of all the Medieval ones, probably DeS. He has a crazy ass firestorm spam
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>>337117214
Chosen Undead
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Demon slayer or hunter.
Demon slayer has second chance and absolutely retarded op magic.
Hunter has good iframes and ayy lmao powers.
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bullets do no damage so the others can just block gunshots with their shields

the hunter also isnt wearing armor, so he's just fucked
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>>337118290
>STR vs DEX
>STR

Shiggydiggit nigguh.
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>>337118290
>hunter fights enemies that would make armor obsolete
>still takes several hits and shrugs it off
They mention that all the enemies in bloodborne are too quick and strong. Using armor would be extremely cumbersome.
Also
>bullets do no damage
>never done a bloodtinge build with bone marrow ash
>cannon
Cmon son
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>>337118290
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>>337118290
Bloodtinge build with BMA can easily do 700 damage+ before resistances with an Evelyn.

Not to mention that quicksilver bullets don't do physical damage, but bloodtinge damage, so your 100% shield won't be able to block all of that damage anyways.
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>>337118290
Do you even know what you're talking about senpai?
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>>337117214
Hunter, the rest couldn't even touch him. And if they somehow hit him he would just heal while further taking their hp
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>>337117214
>Faraam set is what represents 2

In my heart it will always be Alva, the true armour.
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Given the Good Hunter's emphasis on speed and aggressiveness that far outstrips the others, I'd say it's almost unfair. None of the other protags stand a chance.
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>>337117214
Nobody, because without a player behind the controls, each of them would just sit there doing nothing.
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>>337118456
Nah dog, STR is where it's at my boi.
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>>337118734
Not even that, go ayy lmao form and just r2 everyone.
The only one who would stand a chance is slayer of demons.
He could just break everyone's gear and regenerate hp with faith weapons and adjudicators shield.
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Demon Slayer has near infinite heal grass spam plus the most broken magic.

Not to mention Scraping Spear, if durability is a thing in Bloodborne (the only one I haven't played)
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>>337118785
Personally I'm more bothered by the Soul of Cinder. The image was probably made before the game was out, so the artist didn't know that it was the final boss.
It should've been the starting knight set.
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>>337118886
Slayer of Demons could probably beat Hunter considering all the bullshit magic and miracles he has.
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Chosen undead, because poise
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it comes down to Hunter and DS2

>Hunter fights Gods or beings with Godlike powers starting with Rom and going forward
>DS2 bested Fume Knight
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>>337119068
Maybe. Slayer of Demons is pretty damn fast given the fact that armour in DeS was also pretty useless for the most part. All it would take is one good solid hit with a Dragonbone Smasher or Cannon/Kirkhammer/whatever else and the fight would be all but decided.
Or maybe a stunlock with the Kilij or Blade of Mercy.
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Lore wise probably Hunter or Ashen (Chosen could also fill this spot too depending on how you take Ashen's feats)

Then again Ashen could technically kill an ancient wyvern with one punch
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Guns > armor
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>>337119257
>armor in DeS is uselss
whut
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>>337117214
Aren't they all immortal?
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All these people saying that the hunter has guns, keep in mind the plethora of magic souls characters have at their disposal, also armor can tank more hits and not get staggered instantly besides 3 of course
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>>337119524
Magic is useless against the hunter because he fights at sanic speed
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>>337119698
Homing Soul Arrows
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>>337119974
A spell that even the slowest enemy can dodge.
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>>337119974
But that spell is slow as fuck
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>>337117214
The better player.
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>muh hunter
>muh speedo
>HAIYAI!
Nobody seems to realize that being unfamiliar with the very concept of shields, the hunter has no way of dealing with opponent's shield either.
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>>337118290
Hunter can use the Canon
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>>337117214
ashen one killed a literal god
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>medieval knight with magic that takes and eternity to cast
>guy with guns (sometimes a cannon) that have cosmic magic and moves at sonic speed AND lomger arms

Mmhhhhhh...

Just think who would win between pic related NPC and the strongest of the other NPCs of souls games.
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>>337120592
>shields
>against guns
History aside, in-game Hunter has more stamina and longer reach. Whatever stabilty that shield has an L1 attack would break his guard.
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>equip havels armor and greatshield
>hunter can't do any damage and is too fast to get hit
>fight lasts for an eternity
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>>337120738

yeah but bloodborne is hard
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>>337121052
>Havels
>defense against Bloodtinge
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>>337121052
>>equip havels armor and greatshield
>>hunter can't do any damage and is too fast to get hit
>implying Havels has 100% resist to blood damage
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>>337121013
Gun or no, doesn't matter, 100% damage reduction.
And trying to break the shield by attack spam will lead to hunter getting parried and one shot.
It's a stalemate situation for the hunter at best.
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>>337117214
Good hunter is literally a cosmic being at this point. I think he wins.
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>>337117485
ranged parry
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im gonna be the faggot here and say the unpopular opinion, bearer of the curse would win. he has access to game mechanics like animation canceling, super fast rolling from that, roll punching which is even faster than what the hunter can do, backsteps with iframes, able to buff himeslf to a huge degree
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>>337117214
Soulsborne nendo when?
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>>337121384
Parry what? Havelstoc only counter pokes.
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>>337121294
>physical damege reduction
>bloodtinge damage reduction
Shields are worthless against bullets, sorry to break it to you. Shocking, I know.
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>>337121812
dude the shields in dark souls and shit can block combos from the 4 hit manus combo.

like really get off your BB boner and stop trying to apply real life logic to video games
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>>337117485
Transform attacks break through shields. Hunter has longer weapons than an estoc.
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>>337117214
The guy that roll roll attacks fastest?
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>>337121890
>dude the shields in dark souls
the monsters in bloodborne are literally canonically so strong that shields and armor are useless against them
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>>337121812
>BB peashooters
>hitting harder than Dark Souls monsters
>let alone hard enough to go through a shield block
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>>337121934
>longer weapons than an estoc
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>>337120592
>unfamiliar with shields

Shields aren't unheard of in Bloodborne. The Hunters just don't use them because they're ineffective against the beasts they hunt.

That should speak volumes about how goddamn tough the enemies in Bloodborne must be. The fact that a Hunter can take multiple hits from such monsters and recover through the rally mechanic (absorbing blood? sheer willpower? never understood what it was) also tells how goddamn tough the Hunters must be.
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>>337122031
You mean hunters are canonically so flimsy they can't take a hit without getting their guard broken.
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>>337117214
Estoc > hunter
Hunter with Estoc could be god mode tho
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>>337122174
Poise is the only difference there. Slayer of Demons and Ashen One lack that advantage as well.
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>>337122227
Hunter can use a Rapier that shoots and parries
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>>337122146
>absorbing blood? sheer willpower? never understood what it was
The hunters are pretty much vampires
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>>337117214
>Hunter killed Old Ones
>Hunter killed Hunters
>Hunter can kill the Hunter of Hunters prick
>Hunter can be a nearly immortal vampire
>Hunter can be a beast
>Hunter survived 2 gatling gun barrages and a cannon
>Hunter can USE a cannon
>Hunter can USE a gatling gun
>Hunter dodges and heals faster
>Hunter has an extended moveset and doesn't need FP
>Hunter has the best Moonlight greatsword there ever was
>Hunter can be a vegetable tentacle monster
>Hunter can summon his giant pet snake
>Hunter can regain health through attacking

I mean, it's not even close.
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>>337117214

Why the fuck do they all hold their shields wrong?

This really triggers me.
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>>337117214
hunter ez
and as the best souls game
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>>337118290
Block THIS bullet, fgt
*uses bone marrow ash*
Nothing personnel, kiddo~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72essOdKJIU
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>>337122839

What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>337122031
they must have some shitty shields because the shields in dark souls can block near anything
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>>337117214
Demon Slayer >= Good Hunter > Chosen Undead > Bearer of the Curse > Soul of Cinder
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>>337121890
Shields dont do well against flimsy magic either. Bloodtinge has nothing to do with physical damage. Two different damages.
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If everyone plays perfectly and all avoidable attacks are avoided, the bearer of the curse would win since a certain few pyro combos are guaranteed hits
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>>337123247
>pyro combos
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>>337123235
crest shield blocks 100% magic damage
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>>337120592
Hunters have a bajillion ways to deal with shields.

1. Guns. Shields have no bloodtinge resist.
2. Trick weapons. Threaded Cane, the scythe, that other whip weapon, all direct counters to pissy shields.
3. Sanic speed. You thought fishing for backstabs were bad? Try fighting a hunter with your DS speed.
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>>337123112
breh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ2wcc5p9w0
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>>337123226
add Demon End Slayer = Baby God Hunter at the start
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>>337122031
That's because they don't power themselves up with the souls of others typically, so the people who establish the norm are some SL1 tier guys.

Slayer of Demons in the opening looked cool as fuck. He actually knows how to parry, and lives through a murakomo smashing him through a wall. And he makes it through 1-1 without being able to power up, so he can't 100% coast off soul power.
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>>337123060
>a """"meta"""" video
>opened youtube to see the author
>Iron Cuckapple

why am I not surprised
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>>337123357
I think you mean 80%
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>>337117214
>monsters in BB made armor completely obsolete
>through hunter can still eat those hits
>can regen
>is blatantly faster
I'd even guess that the hunter might be potentially stronger as well. So he is faster and tough, can regenerate via combat, and is just as strong if not stronger.

Hunter would walk through everyone but the demon slayer. He would have to walk through that one twice.
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Lore-wise it will probably be a tie between Hunter and Ashen One as they both can potentially ascend to godhood.
Gameplay-wise slayer of demons without a doubt just because of how much broken shit he has.

DS2 protagonist is weakest both lore-wise and gameplay-wise.
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https://youtu.be/T344_tXUlHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsd9s2drl38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVLq_Hni4FE

bearer of the curse in his strongest just can be beat. BB guns cant even compete to duel mundane havelyns

hunter also cant hope to deal with bearers immense speed

bearer has shields that can block all their magic damage as well >>337123523


how can good hunter even compete? dual mundane havelyns buffed stacked sonic speed 150 counter damage dark weapon chaos blade with one shot hexes...

its fucking over
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>>337123060
*drinks lead elixir*
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>try out herald class
>we holy warrier now
>blessed partizan
>blessed shield
>replenishment
>it's like i'm really playing call of duty
Until I used a refined gem on the spear, thinking it could have both buffs at the same time.
Fuck me then.
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SL 838 Havel Monster from DS2 is unbeatable.
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>>337123804
>warrier
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>>337123804
use sun princess ring as well

>>337123874
>>337123696
this. like really give up guys, bearer of the curse is strongest story wise and gameplay wise
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>>337123017
Thats the correct way to hold that style of shield, along with having the bottom portion of it strapped or looped around your fore arm.

Do you really think the strength of your wrist alone is going to withstand the blow of a axe or mace? the blow is distributed along the fore arm as a whole so you have much more control and don't get the shield smacked out of your hand.
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>>337123743
Bad hunter.
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>GT with dead angles
>CB
>Bestoc Turtle
>divine blessings ans shrooms
>POISE
>DWGR
>2K+HP
>chain bs
>poise bs
>god like bs's

How is this even fair again?
Might as well leave the chosen undead out of the equation.
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Better question is who's the strongest phantom/invader/hostile npc in the series.

My bet is on Crowsteel.
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>>337124039
bearer shits on chosen any day of the weak
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>>337124096
Maldron the ass. he can literally fly and has the tracking of a god.
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>>337123696
Both of those were patched out a long time ago, but if glitches/exploits count, then the Slayer of Demons wins even more easily

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtuEclYF3vs
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>>337124137
Literally impossible.

I even forgot to add:

>toggle
>toggle bs
>toggle parry

Bearer is actually the worse of all, I mean he would get comboed to dead by a unlocked GT spam. No you can't parry it.
How can you be so fucking wrong? Have you no shame?.
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>>337117214
Dear Good Hunter.
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>>337124285
Not him but if we're counting glitches that have been patched out, the arcane rifle spear was stupid OP in BB
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THE ONE WITH ACTUAL FUNCTIONING POISE

Fucking scrubs the lot of you.
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>>337124096
Fuck this guy. First time I didnt have the option to send him to the clinic, decide to kill him then and there. Fuck.
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>>337119419
No, a hunter only dreams

Give him coffee and he gets REKT BOIIIIIIIIIEEEE
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>>337124376
lore wise bearer could be stronger via the four crowns. I am so fucking mad that we don't have any explanation of that bullshit in DS3. also where the fuck is aldia?
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>>337124672
>implying we're nothing but his dream and we end as soon as he wakes up
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>>337124780
DS2 isn't canon. Don't worry about it.
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>>337124376
hun chosen undead couldnt even reach bearer and chosen coudlnt dodge all the hex/dual avelyn spam

like theres no way any of them could win against bearer
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>>337122839
>Nearly immortal vampire
What do you mean by that?
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>>337124096

Crow was the worst npc in the entire fucking series
>Old Hunter's Bone spam
>Repeating pistol that can 2-shot you
>Chikage
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>>337119419
Slayer is immortal due to being tied to the nexus. Both bearer and chosen are undead. ashen on is unkindled which is undead+ created by the universe saying fuck you to the lords trying to stop the cycle. Hunter has paleblood and is tied to the Moon Pressence. He actually dies but the Ayyy Lmaos just bend reality and he wakes up.
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>>337124780
Even with 1000 crowns and 50k HP he would get 30% chopped off for every bleed count. Since he can not roll the bleed he would be pretty much fucked anyway you look at it. No to mention he can not toggle to get out of a stun.
Like, let me just cast TWOP and poise unlocked GT for infinite stunlock all day. Add some shrooms and it's actually invincible.

Have you ever watched a Max level, all items allowed DaS1 FC?
Yeah, they only end when someone does not have any more DB's.
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>>337124951
You forgot that he eternally heals himself when he is below 50% of his health. And, by the way, I love that fight.
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>>337124096
This retard will straight-up slow-walk into charged attacks like the stupid edgelord he is.
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>>337124951
Yuria's helm + Karla's Coat/Cornyx's Garb + Karla's Gloves + Any leggings

Bloodlust + Avelyn + Carthus Bloodring
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>>337125161
Wish I was fortunate enough to have the AI go full retard.

Charged attacks were useless on him for me because he always punished with a pistol shot. And that pistol does a FUCK ton of damage.
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>>337125161
pshh... it's just a flesh wound, kid
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>>337117214
bloodborne because you have guns lmao easy fucking fight, not even a question wtf guys is your brain damage that severe
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>>337123389
a minigun? in my souls? ok now i'm interested
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>>337125094
>LORE WISE
Yeah gameplay wise the bearer sucks a ton.
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>>337125306
Havel Shield + Estoc
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>>337125306
People think plate armor can protect against bullets when in truth it gets pierced regularly by flimsy estocs in the game itself
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>>337117214
Hunter because le epic lore makes it so that you can survive a literal gunshot wearing cloth but can't use metal to block a claw
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>it's a sonyggers shitposting thread
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>>337125262
*un-unsheathes chikage*
*pops OHB six times in a row*
*triple dodges behind you*
Your dream ends now, hunter...
*unsheathes 99 bloodtinge repeating pistol*
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>>337117214
Unkindled or Chosen undead

All these Soniggers trying to argue for hunter, who wears no armor and is mostly edgymcedgelord. He'd get rekt completely by -any- of the Souls characters
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>>337117214
Slayer of demons, the rest can't compete against 99 of each grass
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>>337121052
>Hunter has 99 insight
>You armor up
>He sees through your deepest secrets and fears
>You get 100 Frenzy and your mind breaks

Psssh kid, armor won't pretekt U in mai realm.
*turns into squid*

>>337124916
Lady Maria has Vileblood... blood in her (half-vampire) She tried to kill herself but wasn't able to due to her almost immortality, you find her in a pool of self-inflicted blood/injuries after all.

In the game you meet the Queen of Vilebloods and can join her. I don't think it would be hard to ask to be bitten or transformed into one.

"The Queen is apparently immortal, as she can be revived even after Alfred brutally kills her, (using his Wheel to pound her into mush and paste, leaving small clumps of flesh and her head to remain) by taking the Queenly Flesh to the Altar of Despair. However since the Altar is improvised with the remains of what either is a being similar to Rom, or Rom herself, and that the Queenly Flesh is offered to this altar, one can assume that there is an underlying connection between the Great Ones and the Vilebloods. This theory is further bolstered by the connection that Vilebloods have with the Pthumerians, as it is believed they are their descendants."

pic related is her "dead" body, on the wheel.

>>337125362
BB has some pretty fascinating weapons. DS3 has a handful of fun ones to use, but their concepts and movesets aren't that interesting compared to, say, a pizza cutter, an alien arm-scythe, a fucking screaming wheel, or an outer-worldy parasite
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>people are arguing that shields don't work because of bloodtinge
nigger bloodtinge doesn't even fucking exist in dark souls
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>2 stacks of 99 fast as fuck, full HP healing grass
>thief ring literally makes him invisible and unable to be locked on
>has a spell that reduces physical damage taken by 70% and one that revives him with half health
>stormruler knockdown gives him enough time to cast any of those again
>99 MP restoring items means he can do it 100 times
>cursed DBS/Greataxe do ridiculous damage, are fast a fuck and have hyper armor which in DeS is like infinite poise
>infinite stunlock cursed dual katanas
>can stack HP regen shield, weapon and ring to regain 1000+ HP in under half a minute
>can break all the others' equipment with the scraping spear
>high damage magic that's fast as fuck to cast
>can use hyper mode with any of those to kill them in one hit
And I'm probably forgetting some.

Slayer wins, no contest.
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>>337126094
BUT.... good hunter is too fast to get hit by any of that.
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>>337117214
Isn't the Unkindled the strongest by default?
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>>337126094
>bloodtinge
:)
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Now who would win:

Slayer of demons who has merged with the old one and in full control of power

Dark lord Chosen undead

King of the four crowns Bearer of the curse

Great one good hunter

Who wins?
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Slayer of demons no contest
>second chance
>fast
>most iframes in a roll
>Magic that's actually good
>can infinitely stunlock with headbutts if necessary
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>>337126425

While bearer of the curse would be outside the cycle at that point. He wouldn't be a combat monster like the rest. He'd just chill with Aldia after getting send back to the bonfire.
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>>337120738
I think Old king Doran would fuck him up
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>>337117214
Depends on who lit the bonfire/lantern thing first
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Chosen undead or Slayer of Demons.
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>>337126425
Great One Hunter would just trap a army of hunters in the hunters dream and have them go kill his enemies. And you know failure isn't a option when you have unlimited chances.
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>>337126641
Oh, I had forgotten about that guy. Good thing there was toxic cloud.
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>>337126425
Dark lord Chosen undead, because he'd just end existence.
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>>337119039
It's the boxart set moron
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>>337120738
Ya boi Iron Tarkus could. Nigga could solo his boss.
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>>337123691
Slayer of Demons gets stunlocked to death
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>>337118785
As much as i like Alva, Faraam is more comfy.
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>>337117214
The Soul of Cinder probably
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>>337125945
Is using guns for damage in PvE viable in BB? That's really neat if so. Seems like all the gattling gun would be good for is just straight damage.
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>>337118785
Alva is the best looking set from 2. That shit was just made to show off the new cloth technology they made.
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>>337123383
>>337121013
>>337122146
To be fair a really solid Great Shield would probably do fine against any gun. I don't see Havel's shield having a hard time blocking brute force objects, and it has high magic resistance so bloodtinge shouldn't be an issue either.
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>>337128282
If you go with a bloodtinge build, yes. You still can't go through it all by only shooting, at least not your first time, because you need to sacrifice health to get extra bullets and if you aren't good at the game you can't afford to sacrifice health.

I went with bloodtinge on my second character and it's still my favorite build, with a mix of edgy weapons and guns.
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Hunter or Fluted.
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