Just finished up streaming all of the FFs right before XV comes out. Made a list to help people get into the series.
>>337105670
4 is not that good. 13 being that bad is just a /v/ meme. There's no way it's worse than 1-2. A picture of Lightning's armpit alone is worth more than 2.
>>337105670
>IV that high
>VIII above V
>XII below X
Needs work.
>he never played XI
oh cute, its backwards
nice meme attempt
the failcalls are more telling of you then this fetid series
these titles are the fetid berries you choose to eat over the same barries from the same brach
have fun you tasteless faggot
>>337105670
>>337105670
I honestly believe that 13-2 is one of the better games in the series.
>>337105938
>XIII above anything
At least you're not this guy OP.
>>337105670
>Hurr durr hating on XIII
Lightning's spats are the single most sexually appealing thing I have seen in my entire life, 2D, 3D, or RealD.
>>337105997
You're nuts. Almost everything that happens in it is illogical and a non-sequitur.
>>337105670
good list, OP
you're a faggot, but a cool faggot like Freddie Mercury
>>337105890
XII was boring af, X had annoying VO but at least it wasn't BORING
>>337105997
Do you see any sequels or spin-offs on that list? No? Why do you think that is? Think hard.
>>337106017
Please stop, Anthony Birch. We all know it's you.
>>337105890
11 isnt a real JRPG yo.
>>337106091
Because MMORPGs aren't RPGs.
>>337106131
>>337106156
>>337106179
IV has a retarded story
VI is piss easy and you stop giving a fuck once you start collecting people in the world of ruin
>>337105670
Wrong ff 13>=ff15>6>7>else
>>337105890
>he never played XI
>Actually thinks XI is a Final Fantasy game
IX >X-2 >X > VI > VII > XII > IV > V > I > III > VIII
In myfactualopinion.
>>337106218
>VI is piss easy
All FFs between 4 and 12 are piss easy
>>337106283
>the best final fantasy game isn't final fantasy
You better say it's part of the SaGa series or I'm actually going to get upset.
>>337106258
>Wrong ff 13>=ff15>6>7>else
It must be pretty baller working at Square Enix if you've already played and finished XV yo. How that's Nihon poon?
>>337105670
>no tactics
>no X-2
So are you just really bored or something, OP?
>>337106337
6 is easier.
>>337106258
ye FF13 was the best except that nigger and hope.
>>337106308
idk
X and IX weren't as good as to put them above VII and VI
>>337106308
>Thinks the childish designs from IX are cool
>>337106375
7 is easier than 6.
>>337106420
What do you think black people who are normal (i.e. not weeb black guys) think of FF?
>>337106414
I'll have to say IX was my first FF, but goddamn if the ending doesnt make me tear up to this day.
X has amazing postgame. Grindy, but time-spent-to-goals-achieved balanced, if you catch my drift. Also i love the story.
>>337106420
Nice 420 you fucking stoner cunt. Also meh. The stylization is okay. It fits the world very well imo.
>>337106380
fucking hated this nigger
>>337106373
Probably some template on some meme generator website
>>337106485
>FF
Free food? Gimme dat shit mayne
>>337106485
why would people who aren't weebs think of FF?
>>337106537
Please don't use the n-word to describe my husbando
>>337106610
>Blacks
>Not weebs
LOL
>>337106610
If they encounter it. Like say t hey go to buy Madden of Duty at their local game store and see a huge cardboard cut out of Lightning showing off her armpits for FF13-5?
>>337106537
Geez he was so annoying all game omg.
>>337106485
They probably think it's gay and the hip hop community hates gays e.g. Frank Ocean.
>>337106536
>Nice 420 you fucking stoner cunt.
What the fuck even? lmao
IX > X >>> IZJS > VII > VI >>> XII > IV > XIII = VIII
didn't play I, II, III, or V
I know no one cares but my personal list is
VI>V>VIII>XII>IV>IX>X=X2>XIII=XIII2>VII>III>I>II
>>337106868
they're not cool, they're___comfy___
>>337106536
X isn't bad, but I didn't like many of the characters
>>337106824
>Actually ranked two separate versions of XII
>>337106824
A-
Not bad. Now go play V.
>>337106825
>VIII that high
>XIII above VII
>VII that low
D-
Shit taste.
>>337107038
Zodiac is the superior version, it's true. Not even worth talking about the other version.
FF lists? ok, let me try
VII>IX>Tictacs>IV>X>VI>VIII>V>XII IZJS>II>III>I>X-2>XIII
>>337107102
In the other version you can make your characters whatever you want. In Zodiac you can't. SEEMS KIND OF A PROBLEM BRO
>>337106350
>Tactics
Not an FF game, was a Tactics Ogre game
>X-2
Man fuck that
Which ones let me create my own team as in choose classes for the characters or how does it work? Not choosing your team from many characters.
>>337106946
Why are those designs comfy anon?Comfy for your peeny?
>>337107238
X-2 was pure quality fun
>>337107237
it is, I really wish they'd at least let you switch classes like in III
>>337107004
I can get that. I myself was just focused on tidus, yuna and wakka. Lulu is a cunt, kimahri contributes nothing, rikku is hit or miss, auron is too tryhard stoic. I felt they were all well written characters though, in the aspect that very little interaction felt out of place.
>>337107038
I was trying to make the point that XII is mostly failed potential. Some of it was captured with IZJS but honestly it was still kind of mediocre most of the time. If Annex existed it'd probably be at the top of the listbut we all know that'll never happen
Also it has some of my fav quotes,
"Too late and to their sorrow do those who misplace their trust in gods learn their fate"
"The reigns of history back in the hands of man"
"Gerun: We give you now the Stone and task. Administer judgement: destroy them all! Ashe: Judgement? Destroy them all? The Empire?"
>>337107183
>VIII above zodiac and V
>II above III
B
Apply yourself.
>>337107237
The only problem here is your casual ass.
>>337107307
III, V and Zodiac.
>>337107351
X-2 was when Square went out of business and publicly declared their state as a puppet enterprise.
>First FF numbered sequel
>Femsploitation with tons of scanty outfits
>Retcons anything meaningful from X
>>337107372
>Ashe: Judgement? Destroy them all? The Empire?"
Nice writing
>>337107425
What a fucking faggoty thing to graffiti. Children protagonists? ALWAYS PEDERASTS.
>>337107461
>Retcons
what was retconned?
>1. VII
>2. VI
>3. IV
>>337107426
I want freedom. I am a WRPG gamoor
>>337107559
Like I said. Casual.
>>337107541
Phoenix downing Teedus
>>337107598
WRPGs are less casual though
>>337107661
No.
>>337107507
are you really this mad over that?
>>337107547
If any part of that upsets you, you have SHIT taste.
>>337107704
XI should be #1. If that upsets you you either have shit taste oryou're too young to be here.
>>337107696
Child protagonists are NOT ok. Garnet and Zidane interpenetrating? That's fucking statutory.
>>337107747
>Still thinks XI is a Final Fantasy game
>>337107461
>X-2 was when Square went out of business and publicly declared their state as a puppet enterprise
They didn't go out of business. They merged with Enix. Also, Enix was the ones that became the puppets, which is sad because Enix ran better as a company.
>>337107687
>>337107774
>child protags are not okay
So no more Peter Pan? No Ed, Edd and Eddy? No Wizard of Oz? No Karate Kid?
>>337107840
I've yet to hear why you think otherwise.
>pretending to be retarded
>>337107656
I don't get what you're saying.
Tidus isn't in FFX-2
>>337107747
>>337107704
>implying V isn't the only good Final Fantasy
>implying everything else besides I and III isn't completely underwhelming
>>337107878
Spirits Within tanked square with 96 mil in debt. Square as we knew and loved it died with that movie.
Enix has draining the ejaculate from the remnants of Square's husk for the past 16 years and has found it to be unexpectedly virile.
>>337107995
>I and III
bear = me
cat = you
>>337107960
>Thinks a soulless cashgrab MMO is the same as a single player JRPG
>>337108096
Confirmed for never having played it aka too young to post here.
>>337108062
There's no bear in that fucking image dipshit
>>337105670
>streaming
>didn't play them yourself
>IV that high
>IX that high
>V that low
At least have the self respect to not rank games you haven't played, or in your case cease all contact with Final Fantasy threads immediately.
V and X are the best mainline games
>>337108062
cursor = me
reported = you
>>337108158
I meant weasel.
>>337108141
Bitch please I played that shit on its release, it's commoditized soulless grinding before World of Warcraft hit its stride.
>>337108210
Fuck off
>>337108229
Sure. It's also the best game in the entire series.
>>337108030
Square was running their own company into the ground. Enix did jack shit to Square. When they merged, even though Enix was the supposedly surviving company in the merger, Square made up 80% of the company, and even had their President take over as the President of Squenix. Square pretty much got all the power, which is why the successful Enix became the ailing Squenix.
>>337108291
If soulless grinding without much of any story is the mark of a good game for you, boy I've got a recommendation for you.
I see this topic so often.
5 > 9 > 6 > 3 on NES > 4 > 7 > 10 > 1 > 2 > 8 > 12 > 13 > 3 on anything else.
Rated entirely on how many times I've replayed any given entry in the series.
>>337105976
Is...is his ear screaming?
>>337108408
>Listing 2 better than 8
>>337107984
Ya he is. Get the perfect ending nigga.
>>337108402
>without much of any story
Thanks for confirming you've never played it.
>tfw unironically liked 2 on the GBA
Sure it was a broken mess but it was so retarded at all times, I enjoyed it the same reason I enjoy watching shit like Ninja Apocalypse. At no point was I expecting all star quality.
That said, 2 is kind of a shit game and deserves to be low on tier lists, and really is only above 3 and 13.
Why do people rank 4 even remotly high? The game has bad gameplay and a bad story. Ranking 4 above anything after 4 shows pleb taste of the highest degree.
>>337108408
Switch 3 on NES and 7 and we're good.
>>337108512
>Story in an MMO
>Being this autistic
>>337108607
>I never played it
Never go full retard. Laughing hyena reaction image.
Best FF is Federation Force, period
>>337105670
I do not like this list. I know some people didn't like xiii. I liked it. But to put X that high then XIII at the bottom is baffling. I've played a big chunk of FF and X was the worst.
>>337108479
no, he's right
>>337108479
8 has the best soundtrack though, and that counts for something in a series in this series.
>>337105670
1. XIII
2. XII
3. X
The rest sucks, because if I want to watch no graphics, I can read a book.
>>337108532
>4
>Bad Story
>Cecil
>>337108786
>>337108786
at least try
>>337105670
>FF7 in first place
Nothing else matters to me, you got the most important one right.
>>337108497
if that triggers you, you might have a problem with video games
x-2 wasn't meant as anything but a fun game anyway you know
>>337108479
8 was a fucking disaster
the combat system was awful
>>337108821
Even if it wasn't bad the pacing and the narrative are so fucking shit that it doesn't even matter.
>>337105670
>streaming
how about you play video games you fucking casual
>>337105670
Any Final Fantasy ranking is automatically wrong if 13 is not at the bottom. You have a decent list and 13 is at the bottom. Well done OP.
>>337108526
very ambitious for a NES JRPG
the game tried some new mechanics that make sense on paper, but could've used more streamlining
I also finished the GBA version and I hear the PSP version is even betteras far as stories go, I liked it more than I, III, V, X-2, XII and XIII
>>337108786
Good graphics belongs to movies, and still images belongs to books. So interestingly enough, if a video game wants to separate itself as a medium, the only course of action is to have mediocre graphics. Its interesting that this proves to be the case when the better the graphics are in a game, the more it has to give up the traits that actually define a game. This results in these so called games which are more of an interactive movie.
I know your post was bait, but I just wanted to use your bait to point this out.
>>337108821
It's hard to defend a game that is so clearly dated by the way it was designed.
>People in the party go missing, die or turn to stone. All but one get better.
>Golbez is thrown under the bus in favor of another villain that is less cool thrown in at the last hour of the game.
>>337108821
Zeromus was defeated by the power of friendship
>>337108976
>the combat system was awful
Just because you couldn't wrap your head around it doesn't mean it's bad Anon. The customization and manipulation of the game was greater than any other FF.
Sure drawing magic was annoying af, but it enabled so many possibilities of configuring yourself for fights. Never has there been another Final Fantasy where my party members could zombify enemies with auto attacks and I could then use phoenix downs to instakill my enemies.
Also Squall was a decent character. The whole ellipses thing is super overstated on boards and only comes up in the first disc. He actually has a pretty cool character arc of starting out as a socially retarded introvert who's too afraid of losing people to let them into his life, to eventually being forced into responsibility that requires him to change his attitude to trust other people.
What arc does Cloud have? Indifferent asshole who thinks it's edgy to not care about the world until the very moment a literal meteor is heading to destroy it?
And Tidus? He learns to stop being such a whining bitch by enacting a power fantasy of killing a personified demon of his father?
Zidane starts and ends practically the same character.
>>337109196
>countering bait with bait
Yep, this is /v/.
Most of the people arguing in this thread haven't played more than a single or 2 games. Some of you haven't played a single FF game to completion (i.e finished the story).
Anyone who's played all of the series, would hate VII high, rate XIII low, rate VI as their top (this isn't negotiable) and rate IX pretty high (maybe second or third) and not shit on IV.
The only real difference in opinion is with VIII.
Also, disregard any FF I - III in rankings when you see any inconsistency with what's above in other's rankings. Most FF players haven't touched them.
>not even including the game that literally saved Final Fantasy
>>337109026
The pacing is bad because you suck at it and had to grind too much.
>>337109378
dead game
>>337109378
But not before killing it with the same game.
>>337108479
8 and 2 are both incredibly experimental Final Fantasy titles.
They've just had more cracks at 2's system and eventually got it fixed with the PSP's port.
8 is centered around either continually drawing spells from enemies or a completely unrelated and random card game.
Not to mention how 2 handles stats is way more intuitive than 8.
>>337109378
>MMO
>Final Fantasy
>Good
Pick two
>>337109405
It's literally the opposite. I just went trough it like a hot knife trough butter. Mostly there wasn't anything to do in this game besides doing the story. There was literally not a single good boss fight in the game.
I never played FF because spent time on DMC and Ratchet on the ps2 back in the day
How is FF7 on PS4?
>>337109405
The fuck does grinding and being good at a game have anything to do with a story's pacing? Are you honestly that blind with nostalgia?
>>337109521
Asura, Valvalis, Leviathan, Rubicant, and Bahamut are all iconic fights.
>>337109557
Not him but IV's pacing is pretty good for its time.
I could not circle my head around how bland the cast of FF8 was merely in concept.
6 characters, all human, and all between the ages of 17 and 18.
Can we talk about how FF12 has the best worldbuilding, atmosphere, and aesthetic of any game in the series?
https://youtu.be/aIkYOR5kgxM?t=4m36s
>V that low despite having the best job system in the series
>IX that high despite worst battle system in the series
>XII that high despite playing itself more than XIII does
>I that low despite being a fine if not a bit generic JRPG
>II not at the bottom for being a literally unplayable piece of dogshit that's thousands of times worse than even XIII
>>337109557
How you experience a story's pacing is definetly going to be affected by how long you're taking to finish the game. Nevermind the long pauses of not playing the game, I'm simply talking about playing a game for too long.
And no, I'm not blind of nostalgia. I've recently gotten into FF. Played most of the mothership titles within the last year and a half. FF VII is not the best, FF IV is decent to top 4 of the series, FFIX is great and FFVI is easily the best it shouldn't be up to discussion.
Unlike you kiddies, people are now getting to experience the game and they can tell that FFIV's pacing was bad by the series standards. It was pretty much like FFVII, latter being a little faster paced at some points.
>>337109665
No because it doesn't. Even FF7 has better on all those.
>muh weird MMOlike races omg!
>>337109521
not that anon, but I played through IV recently and the bosses, and how most of them had their own gimmick, were a highlight to me
>>337109339
I don't actually use the term "interactive movie" as bait. It is natural that as a medium evolves, it would get a new name. Since books came before movies, why aren't movies called visual books? Visual novels are a new medium that try to find their balance between that of a book and a game. Interactive movies are a new medium that try to find their balance between that of a movie and a game. Acting as if the medium is inherently bad is the real bait.
>>337109708
>your opinions
>not the same as my opinions
>>337109665
FF12 was
BORING
O
R
I
N
G
It's certainly less annoying than many of the other games, but it commits the biggest sin of all by being plain
BORING
>>337109708
At least 12 was more open in exploration than final corridor 13.
>>337109614
No they are not. The game is easy as shit.
>>337109641
Even the first Dragon Quest had better pacing. FFIV was just running around to one key point after another without any buildup. The dungeon design was horrid too and the game was plagued with "go trough the wrong door first and you will trigger the next even with no chance to finish exploring the previous area or save before a boss fight". Not that it really mattered as easy as the game was.
I can't choose between V, VI, and VII because I like them for different reasons.
VII's story is kind of an uneven grab bag of ideas that doesn't make for a very cohesive whole, but the game is such a roller coaster of memorable individual moments that it's easy to forgive this.
VI has a cool steampunk renaissance/baroque thing going on and the perfect soundtrack to complement it.
V has the best gameplay, hands down.
>>337109665
X had far better worldbuilding. You're fine to say XII has better aesthetics but X really makes you a part of the world and you get this really detailed picture of what life is like for the NPCs and the different cultures in each town.
In XII your party barely interacts with any fucking characters and they're barely involved with the story for them to even get to LEARN about local cultures.
>>337109797
Well sidequests are boring. For you. But for autistic people sidequests are completionist heaven
>>337109665
WHERE THE FUCK IS OUR REMASTER SQUARE ENIX
Lightning's spats could give me an erection if I was submersed in a bucket of ice water neck deep.
>>337105670
>12 that high
>>337109841
>The game is easy as shit.
>He played FF4: Baby Type
>>337109759
>VI is easily the best
>character fetch-quest halfway through the game
now THAT was bad pacing
every time I try to play it I give up during WoR
good thing they never pulled that shit again
>>337109938
too bad she has a Hank Hill ass so they're wasted on her.
>>337109936
No one gives a fuck about Vagrant Story 2.
Boring ass trash.
>>337109759
>FFIX is great and FFVI is easily the best it shouldn't be up to discussion
Since you want to bring up pacing, I would like to mention that I've never actually managed to finish VI due to the pacing at the end of the game. Yes I know, its a personal problem, but it is still a problem I encountered multiple times. The only other FF I've never been able to finish is XIII for obvious reasons. I've gotten as far as half way through that game. I don't count XI and XIV since those are unfinished due to monthly costs annoying me.
>>337109989
>laughing reaction guy is still here after being told by XI guy
Smug anime reaction image.
>>337109997
>He doesn't get the thrill of exploring a desolate ruined world
I bet you still like Dark Souls somehow
>IX that high
when will the FFIX meme come to an end? I don't want to watch a 20 second introduction and then watch 20 second long attack animations after a 40 second load screen while the ATB bar takes like 11 seconds to fill up between characters.
How they could fuck up the battle system so much when VII was fast paced as fuck and VIII was just fine is beyond me.
>>337109997
Even with that flaw VI is still the best.
>>337110021
No one should be comparing MMOs to singleplayer games.
>>337110049
Maybe you are me since we both use laughing reaction images.
>>337110006It's not a Hank Hill ass because there is substantial enough ass for me to produce.Hank Hill's ass is not enough for me to even.
>>337109997
God damn, I made this post >>337110021 and I give up at the same spot. I've done so 3 times now, even though its been a decent number of years. I guess its not just me.
>>337110062
not him but I love DaS and it's not for the atmosphere or the lore or the PvP, that shit is for faggots.
the PvE gameplay and replay value is all that matters in those games and it's why 1 is still the best.
>>337110086
>IX is a meme
You mean XIII. Common mistake.
What happened? Why did we lose this amazing artstyle? Imagine what this could have looked like with today's level of visual quality. When was it decided that belts, zippers, and stereotypical anime designs were the way to go? Why did FF7 have to fuck it all up?
>>337106091
Because whoever made that list is a retard that puts MMOs in the same list as JRPGS but disregards games that are full blown FFs like X-2 and XIII-2 ?
>>337110210
amano is like an expensive eichiro oda
>>337110086
>How they could fuck up the battle system so much
Because every team wants to try something knew. Sometimes you'll get fuckups, other times you'll get improvements.
>>337110157
>it's not for the atmosphere or the lore or the PvP, that shit is for faggots.
It's for faggots because that was legimatly bad in the Souls series. There are other games that pull it off.
>>337110157
Maybe you should like it for all that it is and not just one specific facet
>>337110210
You didn't.
Amano still works at Square.
Guy's old as af and has questionable managerial skills despite being a visionary artist. He advises Nomura and creates many of the iconic designs in modern FF.
Do your research.
Also maybe masturbate before posting online to cool your head.
>>337110024
Are you retarded? That's exactly what pacing is by the literal definition.
What's your most disappointing FF game?
Pic related was mine. At least the first one that came into my head.
>>337110210
Very few people actually like Amano's art. It's really hit or miss. Some look great but sometimes the shit just looks wrong. Like Cecil and Rosa there look good, but Kain looks like some kind of demonic stripper based on the chin line alone
>>337109773
Fucking kek, the game becomes so fucking boring and shit aesthetically after midgard that's not even funny.
>>337110305
He's right though. DS lore, PVP and lack of atmosphere are all shit.
6 is the most overrated shit, it just has an annoying fanbase that will bitch if you don't fellate the game
>>337110353
Can it be a game I never played? X-2
Otherwise XII.
Both informed me FF was dead.
>>337109845
V is actually the only on that's fun playing. All the other Final Fantasy games feel like interactive stories with extremely limited interactivity. I think the choice is simple, anon
>>337110307
That anon said art style and not artist. He isn't wrong anon. The art style for FF has changed dramatically. It doesn't matter if the same people are responsible for the art. That doesn't make the style the same.
There are people on this thread that consider XII the best FF.
The game with no MC and a fast forward button.
>>337109759
I understand 4 and 7 were good for their time but they're not perfect and they certainly haven't aged that well.
Final Fantasy 4 was their attempt to tell a deeper story but because they hadn't gotten a better grasp on designing a game with this in mind, there were a lot of issues such as characters sacrificing themselves or going missing being the only way to open up space in a party only for those characters to come back later.
One of the issues for some people when it comes to the original Final Fantasy 7 is the way it looks. For people who grew up with the game, it looks fine but those who didn't will look at it and just see nothing more than blocky deformed models moving around on a prerendered image.
>>337110334
Gameplay pacing =/= Story pacing
>>337110420
>DaS has a lack of atmosphere
whew, here's your (you)
>>337110353I fapped COUNTLESSLY to Lightning though, far more than the second person I have fapped to.COUNTLESSLY
What if I told you that VII is overrated trash and people who like of it because memeing
>>337110492
Both are shit in FFIV so what's your point?
>>337110220
Yeah. Or we're only listing the games in the main series. XI and XIV are a part of the main series whether you like it or not. Tactics isn't, and neither is X-2 or XIII-2 or Lightning Returns.
That doesn't make them bad games. It doesn't make them neglected games. It makes them "not a part of the main series." Most people would rate Tactics higher than most of the games in the main series. It doesn't make it a part of the main series.
Get a fucking clue.
>>337110353
>most disappointing
Between XIV and XIII it's pretty close.
>>337110467
Sort of helps when you're exploring huge areas. IX would have been improved with a fast forward button. I wish I could have fast forwarded through all of X.
>>337110512
I'll be more precise. DaS has atmosphere. It's just so bland that it's easily forgettable and the game may as well not have any.
>>337110467
We almost got a proper main character in that game but I guess someone decided a character that represents the player more was a better idea so now you're just watching from the side while other characters have the story focus on them.
>>337110467
You mean the game that evolved the "press x to win" to "press nothing to win" by involving gambits that were too easy to figure out? How can you really hate a game that makes it where you don't have to press buttons to win anymore?
>>337109938
Does she even wear spats in game? If yes then show an example of the ass in the spats. It's impossible for an ass to look bad in spats but I bad Lighting can pull it off.
1. FFXII IZJS
2. FFXIII-2
3. FFVII
4. FFV
5. FFXIV ARR / XI
6. FFVI
7. FFX-2 / LR XIII
8. FF XIII / IX
9. FF IV
10. FF III
11. FF I
12. FF II / VIII
Though I'd put FFT: WotL on top and Type-0 at 9 if we were counting spinoffs.
>>337109465
Not really. 2, 5 and 12 were only radically different in the series. Well, 13 too I guess.
>>337110532
>and people who like of it because memeing
Rolf?
>>337110547
Story pacing isn't shit by FF standards.
Anyway, I'm the one who brought up pacing, you did. Only to reaffirm (or maybe it was your boyfriend) that it's irrelevant if it's bad since it's so easy (talking about gameplay).
>>337110157
You mean, shit is so easy and predictable compared to every other souls game that you can stomp it over and over again and feel good about yourself?
>>337105670
IV is shit. I really don't understand why people rate it so highly. Customization is next to non-existent, world/level design is terrible, plot is retarded, characters are bland, ATB is inferior to pure turnbased and was a plague on the series, etc. It's been outdone many times over. I can only conclude people praise it because of nostalgia.
>>337110630
DON'T YOU DARE DO IT
>>337110458
That's fair enough, I do gravitate more towards picking that one most of the time.
>>337110630
>XIII and ARR anywhere but bottom
>XI anywhere but the top
Shit taste baka
>>337110630
>1. FFXII IZJS
> 2. FFXIII-2
You fell for the memes. People like these games but they are not intended to be at the top of the list.
You can sort of tell who on these lists made up their own minds and who just followed the memes of "this game is TERRIBLE TOTAL SHIT / this game is GOOD WOW"
>>337110635
What other Final Fantasy game is like 8 if you're going to dismiss it?
>>337110630
THIS IS A "NO WITCHCRAFT" THREAD
>>337110661
>I'm not the one who brought up
Fixed.
>>337110694
You can say that people like any FF game because of nostalgia or being their first FF game.
>>337110630
Fuck I forgot to put X on par with III
>>337110765
Nah mate I genuinely loved both. They're fantastic games.
>>337110753
Okay m8
>>337110783
>>337110701
Just for you, anons!
>>337110635
5 is a perfected 3, and 12 goes back to the customization of 7 and 8.
No one cares about your boner for Lightning, you faggot.
You're a year late to the BUILT FOR SEX meme.
I'm not even gonna give you a (You).
>>337110635
and IV, at least for its time, for introducing the ATB system
>>337110630I have actually had involuntary ejaculations while sitting and playing FFXIII to Lightning's spats.I see a therapist about these sexual problems that I experience, but she remains a major trigger for me.Thank you for not hating on XIII like everyone tends to.
>>337110901
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>337110661
So you missed the part where there was no build up and you just went from boss to boss? In good JRPGs there are actually some story arcs. In FFIV this doesn't exist so the whole world feels completely lifeless. You go trough a city like a nigerian prostitute trough a whole soccer team. There are no NPC quests or other shit to do in the city, it's just there for the story purpose and only the key people have really something to say, Everyone else has just one generic line.
>>337110583
>Or we're only listing the games in the main series
I think you mean to say Tactics is not a numbered title. It is part of the "main" series. Hell, XII is actually a spinoff of Tactics, so it's less a part of the main series than Tactics is. FF does not have a cohesive story, so anything that isn't a spinoff or sequel/prequel is a part of the main series.
>>337110925
Good luck with your problem m8, and it's no big deal. The XIII trilogy was pretty damn good overall.
>>337111021
Do you see any sequels or spin-offs in OP's list? No. You don't. Fuck off.
>>337110901
YOU FIEND
>>337110983
It doesn't matter,you've already said that the supposed flaw is actually irrelevant due to how easy it is.
So your original post about FFIV was whining for no reason.
>inb4 different poster excuse
>>337111059
>Good luck with your problem m8Thanks friendly Anon :-)
>>337111134
That was a completely seperate complaint about bosses and how easy the game is. I actually listed a lot more flaws than just pacing. Man, if this isn't the worst case of selective shitposting I read this month than I don't know what is.
>>337111115
XII is a spinoff and is in OP's list as number 6. Do you know so little about the game? It is based on the world created by Tactics.
XII>VIII>VII>X>IX>X-2>VI>IV>V>XIII-2>III>XIII>XI>I>II
>>337110903
I actually like 12's customization more than 7 or 8.
In 7 or 8, You could just give one characters materia/junctioned spells to another character if you swap your party out.
In 12, your characters can eventually learn everything, but you have to actually grind to that point with each character. Much like the Esper system from 6.
>>337110630
Pretty good taste desu
>>337111252
>8 better than 7
>>337111254
>you have to actually grind
this is a plus to you?
The games in the FF series are mostly pretty different. You can compare some games in the series like 7 and 8 but you can't compare 6, 7, 10 and 12 since they are so fucking different.
>>337111304
>Liked XII and XIII-2 unironically while disliking VIII
So you're completely untrustworthy, thanks for sharing!
>>337111341
More feels
>>337111415
They had better writing, gameplay, music, and art direction.
>>337111304
Don't see why the gameplay is legit remark isn't with X too since it has better gameplay than pretty much all previous games.
>>337111368
Truthfully? Yes.
Give me reason to actually use characters I wouldn't otherwise use.
If I am able to freely transfer skills between characters, what's the fucking point of changing at all?
>>337111415
He just latched onto the /v/ meme that 12 and 13-2 were good and the meme that 8 was bad. Now if he was on Gamefags, the home of FF, he would've found that 12 and 13-2 were meh and 8 was okay but flawed
>>337111464
>XIII-2 having better art direction than anything
FF8 first disc was glorious but people are kidding themselves if they found quality beyond that.
>>337111643
You don't even get to the really deep character customization until later discs.
>>337111643
Nah, you're just dumb af. It was good on each disc.
>>337111505
Because pretty much every random emcounter in the game follows one of four pre-set formulas for the composition of the fiends, and it took until the last third of the game before the boss fights got fun imo.
It's a good battle system but it's completely wasted by X for the most part.
>>337111535
nice b8 i r8 8/8
>>337111604
The enviornments were all gorgeous and some of the scenery/designs were great.
>>337109465
>8 is centered around either continually drawing spells from enemies
It didn't, unless you're a total idiot.
>completely unrelated and random card game
Never mind, you clearly never played it.
>>337111695
>The enviornments were all gorgeous and some of the scenery/designs were great.
With the most hideously design characters, second only to Nuuj.
>>337111675
What fucking character customization? FF8 Junction system boils down to "junction the spells that give the biggest bonus". It's not like the game is challenging in any way so you need to actually bother with customization.
>>337111735
Played it through 3 times, dumbass.
Tell me where I'm wrong.
>>337111535
Sounds more like you got the memes up your ass.
>>337111695
This is complete bullshit. X has still the best gameplay next to X-2. Also best story in the series.
>>337105670
>7 being top
>Not 9
Wow. What a faggot.
>>337111735
>It didn't, unless you're a total idiot.
I can be confirmed by third parties that I am not an idiot and I can confirm that getting the best junctions for your stats requires you to draw like a motherfucker even with card/magic refines.
The game was intensely difficult without junctioning large amounts of high level magic to HP, Vit, and Spirit.
>>337111695
Hot opinions bro, did you get those from /v/?
>>337109665
FFVIII might have an edge in aesthetics, but yes.
>tfw /v/ complains about games being designed for casuals instead of niches
>VIII doesn't have a bad system, but rather was designed in a way that would only be enjoyed by a niche
>/v/ complains about the game
I mean, you don't have to like VIII, but hating it because it is a niche title in the series just shows your status as a casual... If you weren't a casual, you could accept that the game is made for an audience other than yourself, and not made to appease as many audiences as possible.
>>337111834
I disagree.
>>337111801
I liked 'em tbqh.
Noel in particular has a better design than pretty much every other main male character in the franchise.
>>337105670
Those roman numerals are all wrong.
>>337111246
He's obviously clueless about how Final Fantasy works.
>>337111779
>FF8 Junction system boils down to "junction the spells that give the biggest bonus".
But to which stats, anon? TO WHICH STATS?
> It's not like the game is challenging in any way so you need to actually bother with customization.
Wrong, a game can't have customization if it is too hard. Because then you are forced and goaded to take the most optimal build you can find. Only in a game with less than stellar challenge can you truly explore the range of what your characters can be without fear that they will be subpar and trap you at a point where they won't be good enough to progress.
Would you love Quistis if she were a man?
