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you should see a doctor for that
>>337092858
But Doc Mitchel died after the powder gangers and I took over
>>337092725
I GOT 7UP. LOOkS LIKE I WIN BITCH
Nuka Cola > Sunset Sarsaparilla
>>337092725
That jingle jangle jingle
>>337092998
>Not wanting star caps
>>337092725
https://youtu.be/0zGSkMImDlk
>>337093072
What's the rate on getting star bottlecaps from drinking them? I usually opt for finding the caps that are spread out in the wasteland.
6 years later and we're still making these threads.as God intended
>>337093324
>Yingle Hanglae
Such an amazing game, too bad that shitty ass gamebryo engine ruins everything all the fucking time.
Are the DLCs worth playing? Every time somebody describes Dead Money it sounds dreadful
>>337093824
>Final battle with Lanius
>The buildup to him is incredible
>The slow walk to where he is
>That fucking voice
>Everything is great
>Face off with him
>He gets stuck behind a rock in a continuous running animation
PLAY IT AGAIN MUH JOHNNY
>>337093953
Lonesome road is great. OWB is funny at times I guess, but have fun killing armies of nightstalkers over and over. Honest Hearts is meh
>>337093335
>What's the rate on getting star bottlecaps from drinking them?
5%
I just finished the game for the umpteenth time. I decided to go independant this time. Killing House was literally really sad, I felt legitimately horrible for doing it. I usually side with House, so maybe I feel attached to him. His obituary is perfect as well, just the right amount of self-fellatio and snobbiness I'd expect from the man. I might do an NCR run next, or possibly Legion. I've tried to do Legion before but the quest line is pretty shitty.
Do all endings require you to kill the BoS? I can't remember if the NCR ending does. I know the BoS are pretty shitty in general, but by the end of their questline I usually feel pretty attached to them. I wish they were a little more fleshed out, but they're not really the main focus of the game. I don't thin I've ever felt good about wiping them out either. At best it feels like I'm putting down an old, sick dog.
>>337093324
was about to post this
>>337094369
Yes man ending doesn't
OWB=HH>LR>DM
>>337094369
Yes Man ending let's you ignore them completely if you so please. There's a mod that restores cut dialogue with House so you can spare them as well.
indy with securitrions > house > ncr > indy without securitrons > caesar > lanius
DM>OWB>HH>LR
shotguns>guns>unarmed>energy>explosives>melee
ede>cass>arcade>raul>boone>veronica>lily>rex
>>337094726
I think you don't understand that symbol anon. You have them all round the wrong way for the 2nd and 3rd line
>>337094514
>>337094603
True you can spare them in the Yes Man end, but it's not a good idea. I don't have a problem with the BoS in NV, but I do understand why they need to be wiped out. If they're allowed to stay, tensions will continue in the Mojave between traders and travellers and the heavily armored rogue BoS knights dicking around and nabbing tech. It's basically like I said. I generally don't feel good about kill them, but I do understand why it needs to be done.
I was hoping there was an end where you got to actually form some sort of alliance between the BoS and one of the main game factions. The problem is the BoS doesn't need or want allies because it's hard to stop hundreds of soldiers in walking tank suits unless you're the NCR or Legion, and even then it's a fight you won't win easily.
>>337094848
You can't be right, since EDE is the best companion in the game.
>>337094369
Originally, House could be persuaded to leave BoS alone, but they scrapped that because then his ending would've been too good. They did record the voice lines and write scripts, and there's a mod that restores this piece of content floating around somewhere.
>>337094726
>shotguns worst
>LR best
no anon, you just have shit taste
>>337095530
meant for >>337094848
>>337095053
Yea if you play fallout 1 and 2 you'll probably hate the BoS even more
>>337095530
Do you know how to read? the ">" in this context means "Better than"
Did you let go /v/?
>>337094726
wow, this nigga fucking gets it.
>>337094726
>Cass
>Arcade
>better than Raul
>>337096398
This artstyle is repulsive
You helped the poor guy, right?
>>337097069
in my last playthrough i slaughtered everyone so probably not
>>337092725IT'S HIGH NOON
>>337096398
this made me sad. It was like a walk down memory lane for my favorite game
I fucking love new vegas more than any other game I have ever played by far, but I have played it so many fucking times, I wish I could erase it from my memory and fall back in love with it all over agaim
>>337097069
I helped put a bullet in his head
>>337097359
If you liked fallout then you'd like McCree from Overwatch.
>>337097285
>>337092725
In my boots
>>337093978
>expecting glorious combat in FNV
>>337093978
>hear Lanius face is so scared, he bilds his own slaves so they wont look at him
>remove his mask from his face
>its just an normal face
>>337096398
who's the guy to the left of ulysses?
>>337097654
McREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>337095804
It was the hardest part...i might reinstall again because im not able to let go
>>337098194
Lanius is a story, a myth
Everyone you ask about him gives you a different story about how he joined the Legion
>>337097069
JSawyer gives him a plasma pistol and makes plasma a lot harder to dodge
So I just stealth kill him every time
>>337100191
i thought it was because the game was unfinished.
>>337100550
With everything everyone says about him, it's far more likely that it's just Caesar trying to replace the legend of Joshua Graham, who had several decades to make a name for himself
>>337100461
Are plasma shots in the face that deadly early on? I still face him down in every playthrough but I also usually have a good amount of purified water to heal myself at that point.
>>337100934
Well JSawyer also reduces your base health a bunch so he's a massive step up in difficulty from the horde of geckos you've just murdered
Maybe it's because I didn't have stellar combat stats at the time and wasn't used to the new plasma but it was just easier to reload and stick a shovel up his ass
>>337095804
No, I took all the gold and marched the fuck out
>>337098086
>make combat more realistic
>Lanius dies like a bitch to a fairly long burst from light machine gun
Well at least it makes sense.
Bruce,
I think it's time we see other people. We're just not a good fit anymore. Besides, I met this amazing and rich guy at The Ultra-Luxe last night. He's a real winner, not a dirty farmhand like yourself.
I never want to see you again.
Lacy
>>337102101
is that an actual letter?
where?
>>337102378
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Strip_letter#Strip_letter_5
Howdy pardners
love to see y'all share the same love for fallout as much as me, a real cow boy
but shouldn't y'all be buying fall out 4 since its newer along with its dlcs?
SMELL THAT AIR
>>337102728
fuck you, yuri. Can't believe your bitch ass made it to Fallout 4 as well
>>337094726
>Muh beep
>Muh boop
>Muh daddy issues
>Muh sister
>Muh wife
>Muh beret
I don't think words are needed for Veronica.
>Muh Leo
>Muh bark
>Muh woof
>>337093953
Many people hate Dead Mondy, but it's fun. It really attempts to do something interesting with the casino aspect of New Vegas but it does have some flaws
Honestly, I'd rate the DLC in this order
#1- Old World Blues.
#2- Dead Money
#3- Lonesome Road
#4- Honest Hearts
So I just finished the Honest Hearts and Old World Blues on my miles build. I'm worried for Lonesome Road because of "Get Fucked City" or the overpass with 4 deathclaws. Any suggestions?
Don't mind me, just claiming my gunfu
>>337103348
Flare Gun
>>337103348
My only advice is play it before you pass the point of no return in the main story.
>>337103348
I meant to put melee not miles fuck me
>>337100770
>it's far more likely that it's just Caesar trying to replace the legend of Joshua Graham
I'm pretty sure Lanius is just a symbol of military force, like the legion equivalent to Captain America. Ulysses mentions something similar if you ask for information if you spared him at the end of LR.
>>337094369
>Do all endings require you to kill the BoS? I can't remember if the NCR ending does.
No. You just have to convince the BoS to support the NCR. Colonal Moore can't do shit without you so she can't do anything about it. She has to go along with how you solved it.
>>337094369
>>337103785
That does require that you don't usurp the elder though. The other guy wont do it because he's just an asshole apparently.
>>337095530
>no anon, you just have shit taste
I love the shotguns but they just don't get the job done if you are up against a heavy foe like a deathclaw. Otherwise they are awesome.
>>337103763
Right, but he's still a replacement for the horror stories of the Malpais Legate
In five years Lanius has gone from nobody to the Monster Of The East
>>337103967
I was agreeing with you dude
>>337093953
You'll either love it or hate it. Dead money has a significant ramp up in the difficulty which I actually enjoyed because I had to think about my next move but will turn off a lot of people. I have to admit there were times that Dead Money pissed me off royally and there are some pretty bullshit deaths waiting for you. Health items become both rare and essential. It's the only time in the game I ever bothered to use a stimpak. Still I enjoy the feeling of accomplishment I get when I finally beat something that frustrates me and the story was had some great characters. I normally try to get good endings on my first run but I fucked up with Dean Domino. After seeing his ending I was pretty content with it.
>>337095804
>Did you let go /v/?
I didn't even get that far. I got pissed off at the stupid, boring enemies that you're supposed to "sneak past" but can't because the map design is a maze of trenches. Specifically the part when you back track after setting off the grand opening. The enemies respawned for no good reason and I had enough.
It wasn't too difficult, just tedious and boring.
>>337104096
This sounds like DSP, but I totally get where you're coming from.
>>337103885
>That does require that you don't usurp the elder though.
I didn't kick out the elder. So, yes.
>>337104096
You know they don't die unless you severe a limb right? They go down to zero health but they get back up. You can fight through them fine if you know what you're doing.
>>337103885
McNamara is a pussy little bitch boy who got fucked in the ass by NCR and is too scared of them to fight back
Hardin is pure Steel, through and throughThey all deserve to die
>>337094726
>DM > OWB
No.
>>337104182
>This sounds like DSP, but I totally get where you're coming from.
There is a lot of things bad about Dead Money.
>it's ugly as a rhino's anus
>bland villa all looks alike
>the enemies walk like they have the pulsy but throw one-hit kill javelins with Deadshot accuracy
>all the enemies are the same
>map is a shitty maze
I really liked the traps everywhere and the characters though.
>>337104270
>You know they don't die unless you severe a limb right? They go down to zero health but they get back up. You can fight through them fine if you know what you're doing.
I know. I didn't have a problem killing them but even that is tedious because they take more punishment.
They walk around like goobers, take time to kill and then I had to clear the area twice. It's annoying.
>>337104576
>not just legging it once you've flipped the switch
They can't exactly stop you
>>337104283
>They all deserve to die
I only played through once. I turned them into allies because it sounded like they would be needed at the fight for the dam.
I wish I sabotaged them though.
>>337104270
>melee build
>never really notice that they get back up because their limbs fly off the first time
>>337104465
I think the characters are the only good thing about DM. I wish my scarred baldfu remained mute though. The interaction was so much more interesting when she couldn't speak. My impression of her as a person went downhill when she got her voice back. It didn't match what she communicated non-verbally.
>>337104283
>McNamara is a pussy little bitch boy who got fucked in the ass by NCR and is too scared of them to fight back
>Implying he didn't get thrust into leadership because Elijah went off the rails
>Implying he didn't do the best he could given the situation at HELIOS
>Implying he didn't redeem himself by the end of the Brotherhood quest
>Implying Hardin isn't a fucking caveman
>Implying he wont turn the Brotherhood into a shadow of its former self
Also it fucking irritates me how Veroncia's quest is still the same even after you help McNamara get his groove back. He'll send a squad of power-armored badasses to Hoover Damn but he'll be damned if he's going to actually be diplomatic with everyone else in the wasteland. I know that it was probably a result of time constraints but it irritates me to no end.
>>337104465
>Ugly
This is a fair point.
>enemies walk cycle and highly damaging weapons.
This, I feel, adds more to the supernatural aspect of the DLC, as they walk like inhuman creatures. The damage output is high, but you can begin to overcome that by finding better armor and crafting/finding new weapons
>same style of enemies
I do wish there's was a little variety past holograms and ghosts, but it's not bad imp
>map
I thought the map did a good job by being maze like. It made the sense of discovery feel greater, and hid some really good shit in places you wouldn't expect.
Especially considering the game says you should be a high level, I feel that a lot of the issues are resolved through going in somewhat prepared, knowing what's about to come.
>>337104410
Is there a Five Nights at Freddy's power armor mod?
>>337104638
Yeah the bear trap fist they all drop is ridiculously OP against them. The weapons in DM are pretty awesome really. The holorifle is fucking OP as shit fully upgraded.
>>337104706
>Also it fucking irritates me how Veroncia's quest is still the same even after you help McNamara get his groove back.
Just because McNamara is willing to send out troops again doesn't mean he will gain Veronica's progressive world view.
>>337104465
I fucking hate all those beep boop radios and rancid ass cloud
>>337104706
McNamara isn't going to change anything. He agrees to a truce with NCR because he's smart enough to realize that if they take the Dam there will be nothing stopping them from finishing what they started at HELIOS.
The only real difference between him and Hardin is that McNamara is slightly less inflexible. He's still a dyed in the wool quasi-religious extremist who believes following a set of thoroughly antiquated ideals is the best thing to do. He just has the sense to not invite a curb stomping from a militarily superior enemy.
>>337104920
I know that feeling.
>get to the end bits wherethe ghoul decides to betray your shit or something like that, I forgotten the details
>running between beepers
>spend an hour trying to find the little shits in a dark room
>then spend another hour traversing the vault, attempting to not get your shit beep beep bopped to death
I don't know how anyone can defend Dead Money.
>>337104920
I don't wanna meme, but is the cloud really that bad for the average player? You get a good amount of health items or at least the means to purchase health items from vending machines, I played it as a filthy casual and was much more enraged by the ghost people crippling me with gas bombs than the cloud.
>>337105080
>spending an hour in the vault
Holy Fucking Shif, how can you be this autistic? As soon as the force fields go up, you should know fo run the fuck back. Or don't get seen by Elijah. It's not hard at all
>>337105153
it blocks your view which sometimes means you can find the radios
or traps
what mods can you just never do a playthrough without, /v/?
my autism requires me to play with that one that lets me lock doors again after i've picked them.
>>337105080
the ghoul has a hurt feelings statistic in his programming
if you chose some lines that hurts his feelings he betrays you
>>337092725
WITH BIG-EYE RON IN HIS HIP
>>337105329
[Barter 20] No good ending for you, faggot
>the final dungeon that combines shielded radios, unreachable hologram emitters and poison clouds
I already wasted enough time in the villa.
I just tcl that shit
>>337105482
>unreachable hologram emitters
Your irl perception must be low
>>337105153
>I don't wanna meme, but is the cloud really that bad for the average player? You get a good amount of health items or at least the means to purchase health items from vending machines, I played it as a filthy casual and was much more enraged by the ghost people crippling me with gas bombs than the cloud.
The thing that made me rage quit was how long it took to do anything.
>Go here
>oh the gas is in the way go around
>enemies are here
>sneaky sneaky
>enemies alerted because Ghoul started shooting at them
>got to run over with the knife to cut a piece off
>oh, three of them?
>got to kill them all twice now
>that one has a throwing spear that kills you one hit?
>peak out, shoot
>peak out, shoot
>peak out, shoot
>peak out, shoot
>peak out, shoot
>Follower got stuck in the winding street
>fuck around trying to get him out
>radio makes collar beep
>got to stop everything and find it
On top of that the ending was pretty obvious within seconds of the plot beginning.
>>337103348
Chug a fuckload of drugs
>>337105482
>unreachable
Just shoot them
>>337103938
Riot shotgun
Alternatively, any shotgun + And Stay Back perk for constant ragdoll
>>337105289
>what mods can you just never do a playthrough without, /v/?
The only mod I installed was one that made headshots way more likely to be a critical hit, because headshots not being deadly annoys me so much.
>not playing with secret stash
>>337105535
you can't sneak from the ghosts
their Perception is set to 0 because devs think that would make them blind as fuck but 0 actually meant infinite
they did the same shit with the lobotomites in OWB
>>337105614
>makes headshots more deadly
>doesn't quit the game after the intro
>>337105646
>The Gaylords - Veni, Vidi, Vici
>>337105613
>Riot shotgun
Still not powerful enough for deathclaws.
Riot shotgun was my go-to for a long time. I like the gauss rifle or anti-material rifle for tougher enemies though. Once I got late game I gave up on the shotguns.
>>337105692
If you play with YUP, and there's no excuse not to, their PER is set to 1 instead
>>337105692
>you can't sneak from the ghosts
>their Perception is set to 0 because devs think that would make them blind as fuck but 0 actually meant infinite
they did the same shit with the lobotomites in OWB
No fucking wonder I felt like the game was yanking my chain. I had sneak 100 and the only time I could really sneak past them is if you are on the awnings and they are in the street.
So I was pulling my hair out like a ghoul trying to think what I was supposed to do. It keeps telling you to sneak.
>>337105289
Besides bugfixes, the alternate role player's intro. I can't stand sitting through doc mitchell's spiel again.
>>337096398
Man the artstyle is not to my taste but this picture alone is a good representation of why NV was such a good game. All these characters that were nicely written.
Shale the artist didn't find a way to illustrate Randall Clark.
>>337105220
>>337105535
You guys might've been playing with harder mods or at a higher difficulty than me then, Dead Money was probably the most refreshing of the DLC when I played it. I haven't played LR though.
>>337105731
>riot shotgun
>not powerful enough for deathclaws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkxV18dI5IE
>>337105729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6lP9bNv6gw
Catchy as fuck.
>>337105713
>>makes headshots more deadly
>>doesn't quit the game after the intro
Doc Mitchall is a miracle worker I tell you.
Can we all agree Honest Hearts was shit?
>>337105731
Use slugs, you dumbfuck. It's like 80~ damage per shot if you do.
Takes down everything fast and easy, and the hunting shotgun with choke mode can actually be used to snipe with slugs if you're halfway competent.
>>337105917
No, fuck off.
>>337102852
Wat?
>>337105731
Gotta use different ammo besides standard 12 gauge
>>337105989
>Gotta use different ammo besides standard 12 gauge
Ahhhhh.
>>337105974
It was fucking awful man. It was bland as fuck. Only cool thing about it was Joshua Graham. It's the only DLC I fell asleep playing.
>>337105917
Yes, but Joshua's still awesome and I like that completing HH before the final confrontation with the legion adds new dialogue options.
>>337095804
>Hurr durr, play my add-on about hoarding literally everything, and making even basic shit like lockpick magazines super ultra rare and useful items you treasure.
>now I'm gonna put you in a vault full of sweet shit, and tell you that the theme is letting go because reasons.
I give it 5 out of 5 talking deathclaws. When news got out that Chris Avellone had been fired from Obsidian, I lit up a cuban cigar.
Good fucking riddance.
>>337106082
>Only cool thing about it was Joshua Graham and Randall Clark
ftfy
>>337106082
>Only cool thing about it was Joshua Graham
Uhuh.
>>337105979
yuri lowenthal voices about 20% of the NPCs in New Vegas, including everyone's favorite fuckhead ex-powder ganger, oliver swanick. He also voices the dumbass at the gate of Diamond City in Fallout 4. Was that spoonfeeding gentle enough for you, sport?
>all these absolute fucking plebs hating dead money
you disgust me
>>337106183
>>Hurr durr, play my add-on about hoarding literally everything
But that's wrong.
You are just a filthy hoarder Anon.
>>337093405
Can't expect God to do all the work
>>337094726
Wait there's an ending where u side with lanius instead of caesar?
>>337106268
One of the best stories and cast of characters in a video game, tbqh. I'm surprised the same writer that brought us this is responsible for the begin-again gremlins and shitty, droning antagonist we got out of Lonesome Road
>>337106341
It's the Legion ending when Caesar dies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znkavw1HkvI
>>337106217
What else is good about it? I'm open to seeing a new light on it, but right now I can't see any other positives
>>337092725
I heard the last song from Grease.
>>337103449
Fair enough
>>337106217
Okay, so there are two neat things. It's still the worst DLC.
>>337106492
THEY'RE MULTIPLYIN'
>>337106268
It's a terrible experience. They wanted to make some kind of resident evil shit on gamebryo, and the layout is like something from fallout 3's metro sections.
Fucktons of really small areas, with loading sections everywhere, shitty enemies that aren't supposed to be able to see you, but can, and stupid 100 skill checks for tons of things that you'd not have 100 points in at the recommended level.
I do also appreciate that they give you virtually no weapons at all that are fun, regardless of what you've specialized in, but they especially shit on people who play explosives.
No, I don't want a stupid bear trap fist.
No, I don't want a spear made of knives.
No, I don't want frag mines that have twice the weight for no reason.
No, I don't want the fucking holorifle. I want a plasma pistol. Is that too much? Can I have a plasma pistol, Chris? No?
Well, fuck you, too.
On top of how shit it is, the pretentious message and awful characters just kill it. The only redeeming part is Dean, which is very ironic, as Dean is quite clearly one of the vilest, most evil, terrible, and outright selfish pieces of human garbage ever to walk the fallout world.
Shit like Christine gets old and annoying very quickly, and god meming about old world gold every 40 seconds is also annoying. It's nice that they give you two weapons for him, too! A single sledgehammer and some frag grenades! Very spicy, Chris.
THE VIRUS JUST JUMPED
>>337097490
He means the game itself.
>>337106471
Did you read the Survivalist terminals? That's what he was getting at.
I'm firmly in the camp that Clarke was one of the best Fallout characters and he wasn't even alive during the course of the game.
>>337106268
Honestly, I wish it were harder. The beginning has amazing atmosphere; I was constantly spooked because every fight was a struggle. But then you get flooded with armor and weapons, and DOG makes most fights trivial.
>>337106790
Ok. This still doesn't make up for a boring DLC. I understand a good story, but I'm trying to have fun. Zion was not fun
>>337103449
>slugs
>fletchette
>magnum
>dragon's breath
>pulse slug
>bean bag
>coin shot
Plus you got a waifu out of it.
>there are people who think that Honest Hearts is the worst DLC and not Lonesome Road
Why is this allowed?
>>337107043
Because you can just leave Lonesome Corridor whenever you want
>>337106987
We both agree with you he just wanted to make sure you were aware of the only other good thing
>>337107043
Because Lonesome Road culminated into a fun conclusion to the game that wasn't 100% bland. Honest Hearts was basically the oversaturated Rock fetish DLC with some ok story elements
>>337107126
Ah. This makes sense now. I appreciated the survivalist subplot, but in the end I wish he was a character to meet, maybe even a companion.
THEY'RE MULTIPLYING
>>337106790
They were so fucking good and they had the potential to be absolutely cringeworthy. Clarke's diary and Ulysses' audiologs are the absolute best things in FNV.
>>337107043
Because Lonesome Road is fucking good overall. There isn't a single aspect of it that's less than 5/10. But Honest Hearts is really only good for Joshua Graham, the Survivalist and some sweet views.
>Sometimes if the player character dies, the suit can be heard desperately trying to pump stimpaks in order to keep the Courier alive, to no avail.
>>337107353
Truly best waifuafter Dala
>>337107273
>But Honest Hearts is really only good for Joshua Graham, the Survivalist and some sweet views.
Aren't you forgetting a Light Shining in Darkness, the best pistol in the gamein my opinion?
>>337107353
Best girlafter mods
>>337107353
Stealth Suit is best grill
>>337107219
That would have ruined him though. His entire arc is about him struggling to cope with his survivor's guilt by first killing everything that threatens him and what he perceives as good, and then trying to nurture other survivors before becoming this legend. He's a counterpoint to Graham in that respect. But by having him be alive during the game you end up with two of the same character running around going through the exact same development (assuming you talk his down at the end).
>>337107409
I want Dala to WoooOOoOOOOOooOooo at my penis
>>337107414
Yeah you rightafter the Ranger Sequoia
>>337107665
>tfw no disembodied scientist brain gf
>>337095053
>knows bos are pricks
>still isn't okay with killing them
Wut?
>>337102521
You look familiar. Do i know you?
>>337107043
Because it's a videogame and elements like setting and gameplay elements will always take precedence over story and characters , Honest hearts had good story and good characters but the setting and the gameplay left a lot to be desired whilst Lonesome Road had a tolerable character and a streamlined story but the setting ,the enemies and the new gameplay elements were far more interesting than anything in Honest Hearts
Would you rather want to read a bunch of Gone Homo journal entries on some computers or face hordes of tunnelers ,marked men and whatever else the Divide has to throw at you with a new fully moddable arsenal of weaponry ?
>not waifuing your own brain
>>337107353
>no way to interact with this suit more
>not even with a mod
>>337107665
>>337107665
>Tfw she tells me to come back the next day for another breathing session
>The game bugs and even if I go back to her nothing happens
Does this happen to me only? Is there a mod to fix this?
>>337096398
Pretty cool
>>337107884
The former
>>337107967
>>337107665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi-JB7yE-b8
>>337093953
DLCs are definitely worth getting, but yeah Dead Money changes up the gameplay in a lot of ways that don't work and becomes a frustrating trial-and-error savescum fuckfest.
On the bright side its probably the fastest and easiest DLC on repeat playthroughs because its idea of challenge is not knowing exactly what to do in advance.
That crash every 30-minutes on a good day, screw this stupid game I love it so much.
How do you guys like fallout new vegas more than 3, new vegas is literally a dessert with nothing fun to do. Fallout 3 has so many interesting things to do and every location has something neat. Serious question, im seriously confused, new vegas is just super boring imho
>>337108527
I like desserts
>>337108527
I like both equally. 3 had more to do, New Vegas was better in every other way, but both are still really enjoyable
My waifu.
I'm the only person in the world who loves her.
>>337105535
>On top of that the ending was pretty obvious within seconds of the plot beginning.
>hurr i totally guessed the plot of DM and how dean betray vera and sinclair and how i would trap elijah hours before they were even introduced, dead money is ass
you sure did, phil
keep crying you filthy casual
>>337093953
dead money is like fucking pulling teeth. I guess it would be ok if you got a mod to keep all your gear, it would probably be enjoyable then for the story aspect.
HH is kinda meh but still ok. old world blues and lonesome road are both great.
>>337105860
What
Doc Mitchell intro is the shorter one from modern fallouts by a long margin
The Vault 101 shit or going through vault 111 must make you mental then
>>337108689
Your raifu looks like shit
>>337108419
here you go then champ this game is right up your alley , just pretend you're in cave when reading through every bit of paper
>>337108527
Here you go, I have the answer to your question pre-written and formulated in such a way that your brain will probably explode.
Now fuck off.
>>337106676
i think good stories make your brain hurt my fellow redditor
thankfully there are two great games for you out there with plots designed by retards just like you, the beth fallouts! don't worry about hard and pretentious stuff like "morality" and "choices", just follow SHAUN the entire game and hear heelarious sarcastic jokes
>>337109059
mad
new vegas in creation engine when?
>tfw even this god tier mod list still isn't enough to stop NV being a dated crashfest https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PXoYBg2bdanMbqN1VsCTcFnqAUl4pww307VgVugGi7c/edit?pli=1#
>tfw even though new vegas is a dated crashfest it's still by far the best fallout game
>>337109352
Hopefully never. Creation Engine is just an aborted Gamebryo
>>337109352
>>337109352
>NV
>being a crashfest on pc
it's a bugfest, but the game is far more stable than F3 on pc, specially if you use mods. Hell i had more crashes in F4 so far than i had playing fucking TTW
nigur
>>337107028
I prefer the 20ga lever-action, but a Dinner Bell is fine too.
>>337109352
The game very rarely outright crashes. Bugs, sure, crashes, not really.
I don't know what mods you've got in there, but it must be some nasty shit if it makes NV actually crash.
>>337109428
It isn't even that bad of a bugfest if you use something like YUP
I'll never understand how Bethesda couldn't implement fucking ammo crafting into 4. Why was that a feature that needed to be modded in? It's the same fucking engine isn't it? All they had to was add a stupid 'ammo' bench like all the other crafting benches in the game. Could have probably ripped it straight from NV's reloading bench model. Or, the fucking companion wheel so you can actually somewhat control your dipshit AI companions? Or utilizing DT instead of their DR system so that Power Armor can't get destroyed from fucking .38 caliber pipe guns? Fallout 4 is a terrible RPG but it's just astounding how they managed to fuck up even little details that would have made the fps gameplay more tolerable.
>>337108527
>ghouls that want to go into space
>a colony of reclusive peaceful super mutants
>the enclave and bof bunkers
>H&R tools
>ncrcf
>nellis afb
>vault 34
>no fun
>>337109762
Bethesda did their best to ignore every improvement added by NV just to be pestered about and readd them, but AS THEIR OWN THING AND OC DONUT STEEL like survival mode which they said it was inspired by other games and skyrim instead of you know, the fucking previous fallout game that had one
>>337109762
Bethesda ignores new vegas as much as possible.
>huff some Jet
>huff some Dixon's Jet
>huff some Ultrajet
>huff some Rocket
>low AP weapon
>kill like 6 guys in one VATS
>>337109681
still crashes a lot more than other games.
but worse is the gunplay just sucks. that's why we need fo4 engine. f:nv with fo4 graphic improvements and shooting feel would be the perfect game
>>337109762
Bethesda hates Obsidian with a fiery passion.
A shitty little studio, with less than two years of time, managed to string together an all-star voice cast, make a far superior script to anyone Emil will ever shit out, capture the fallout feel perfectly, reinvent and address a fuckton of legacy fallout shit that never really worked properly (rush for power armor? power armor is only used by two largely dead factions, and there's better or equivalent protection in other armors. Can't supply gun X with ammo because only merchant Z sells it, and only ever in small amounts? Break down other ammo and make your own - at a cost in raw materials. Energy weapons are trash, then suddenly OP as balls? Introduce a bunch of low-tier ones that are worth it, and transition to the big meat. Guns very samey? Make them all different, so there's no true 'one gun to rule them all) and close out the actual fallout trilogy.
They allegedly weren't even paid the agreed sum of money, because they missed Bethesda's lofty metacritic goal by one whole point.
Then fallout 4 would go on to get 1 less point than NV years later. Does that mean Bethesda withheld Todd's yearly bonus for once?
>>337110676
>implying you salty obshitian retards managed to tarnish Fallout 4 by rating it badly on metacritic
lmao
The game still sold like water in a desert and everyone uses it as a standard for a great fallout game now. Far Harbour is being lauded as the best DLC ever, way better than the crap from New Vegas. Fallout is Bethesda property now and they rule over anything fallout related, deal with it bitch.
>>337110931
It got one less point in the professional critic ratings, fampai.
No one gives a single fuck about user reviews.
>>337106267
Ooooh thanks babe. I thought you meant the character was back in F4.
>>337111025
Why are the animals always pissed off?
>>337111156
Radiation, FEV, no gambling, the distinct lack of nuclear winters, take your pick
>le NV is good meme
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/10/21/wot-i-think-fallout-new-vegas/
>There’s a distant sound that can be heard throughout your time with New Vegas. Quieter than the cheery 1930s pop hits that warble from your radio, quieter even than the chirps of night-time insects, or the long gasps of wind blowing across the wasteland. It is the sound of Obsidian phoning this game in. I’m talking long distance, reversed charges, not-giving-a-fuck.
>This isn’t another Vampire: Bloodlines, where an ambitious game’s been left unfinished, because there is no ambition here. Imagine for a second that the above problems didn’t come about because of a lack of time, but because of carelessness, and apply that carelessness to the entire game- most importantly, to the quest design and the dialogue. Now you’re getting close to imagining New Vegas
>It’s just that this is absolutely not the classic that Fallout 1 and 2 unquestionably were, and it’s also not the bold, bright reinvention that Fallout 3 was. It’s just… here, offering more Fallout. Do you want some more Fallout? If so, New Vegas can provide, so long as you don’t mind your every hour with it being laced with some small amount of disappointment. That is, unless you haven’t played a Fallout game before, but in that case you’re better off with the Game of the Year edition of Fallout 3.
FUCKING BTFO
>>337110931
>Far Harbour is being lauded as the best DLC ever, way better than the crap from New Vegas
>not even out for 9 more days
>>337111367
>what is beta
>trying to get the good ending for OWB and letting the Think Tank live even though the guy who spared them in the first place basically admits they're irredeemable monsters
>>337111557
>irredeemable monsters
>implying you don't redeem them
>>337111537
>what is shilling
>>337111537
So it's being lauded as the greatest dlc ever by like three people? Come on now, take your shilling to reddit, they lap that shit up.
>>337111323
Another stunning example of RPS' shit taste.
>>337111649
You make friends with them so they'll let you leave, then convince them not to leave the Crater because you know full damn well if they ever got out their SCIENCE! instincts would get the better of them
>>337110931
POTTERY
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>>337111557
Hence the questions about science in the DLC endslides.
If people are batshit crazy, sorta sociopaths and make immoral experiments on living humans, yet end up with extremely beneficial science because someone was there to make sure it was used to good ends, how is science supposed to be judged from a moral point of view? Is it bad? Is it good?
>>337111671
>>337111732
>hurr its shilling!
>hurr just three people
several people received the beta you idiots, just like several people received survival. it's not three, it's more like three thousand. but sure, keep denying facts and thinking everyone is shilling for bethesda. you get to be dumber for a while longer, when the DLC comes out i'll get another laugh at your expense at how much better Bethesda is at Fallout than the creators of Fallout
>>337111797
And NV only stayed in 84 because of the bad launch and because sites like RPS were paid by Bethesda to do stupid reviews like >>337111323
Pottery indeed.
>>337111829
neo /v/, everyone.
>>337093953
OWB>>>>LR>DM>>>>>>>FO4>>>>HH
>>337111908
>FO4>>>>HH
>>337111829
Not that anon, but I'll be the one laghing at your expernse when I buy the whole game legendary edition for 10 pounds while you pay more than that for a single DLC for a game that casualised itself to hell and back and lost its essence because devs couldn't handle their jobs properly and thought that making it accessible to toddlers was a good way to do it.
Skyrim stayed popular for MUCH longer. F4 is already forgotten, apart from the people that lap that shit up.
>>337112027
Not even that guy but
>skyrim was more popular before F4 even had the GECK and all DLC out!
you're just being retarded now
We warned you at Syracuse, and you persisted.
You took advantage of us at New Canaan to drive us out, and like the dogs of Caesar you are, you followed us to Zion.
And now you stand on holy ground, a temple to God's glory on Earth. But the only use for an animal in our temple is sacrifice!
Kale watcha nei conserva oh! You understand me, don't you? Don't you?!
>>337102101
Bruce's luck stat must be 11
Dodged a major bullet with that one, and now won't have to see her around anymore and feel bad to boot
>>337112083
I like that argument, because you unwillingly admit that F4 is so average it needs the work of fans to be interesting. At least Skyrim had a modicum of stuff in it that made it worth it even without mods.
Just finished playing FNV and I had no idea I was supposed to do the DLCs while playing the main game.
Now I'm killing Nightstalkers in OWB that have 400hp.
Thanks for scaling enemies Obisidian.
>>337108527
>confused kid
You just answered your own question.
>>337112490
>skyrim
>worth without mods
bullshit
the only reason to play skyrim is mods
and i'm a bethesdrone myself
>>337112614
gitgud
>>337112397I don't understand him.
>songs no one ever quotes because no one ever visits the Tops to watch the Lonesome Drifter's act
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4CMstGM0ik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz30L9NYFf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA9izIDhFgQ
>>337113018
joshua cuck songs are part of the dlc and black mountain radios you dumbdumb
no one talks about them because they suck
>>337113018
I do, but the fucking people keep talking all the time saying the same lines over and over, it's unbearable
>"Oh, give me a home where the bighorners roam..."
>I HEAR A LEGION CAMP GOT RAZED TO THE GROUND
>"Where the mole rat and the fire ge.."
>RING A DING BABY
>"Home, home on the wa"
>I HEAR A LEGION CAMP GOT RAZED TO THE GROUND
>>337092725
I've got spurs-urs-urs-urs-urs-urs-urs
*FalloutNV has stopped working*
>>337113340
>part of the dlc and black mountain radios
That's not true though
>>337111829
This is a decent troll. I almost responded. If I tried to advocate that everything good about Fallout is all the things it never was, I couldn't have put it better myself.
>>337113545
i'm fairly sure i heard Home of the Wastes on black mountain radio too
but i used that mod to never turn it off even after the quest so i don't know if they changed it (they don't say they change anything though)
>>337113508
All of my crashes stopped as soon as I disabled autosave. It still sometimes freezes when loading a save though, and then I need to start a new game once and after that it loads everything just fine. Gamebryo is a bundle of sticks and duct tape.
I want a mr. handy friend
why do you faggots need to have multiple nv threads every single day and yet refuse to visit /vg/ even when there are clearly enough of you to outnumber the existing fallout general or just start a new one.
it has been almost 6 years now and you have a thread about this game, with the same areas of discussion every day over and over again.
why cant youlet go
>>337093072
>avoided spoilers about this quest for years
>mfw I completed it
T-thanks for sharing your childhood experience, Josh.
>>337114150
Josh Sawyer died in an airtight room after breaking into a soda bottling plant when he was a kid?
Harsh
>>337113508
I laughed.
>>337104694
that's not her voice. It's someone elses'
LOBSTAH
>>337114150
?
was there a story behind this quest?
>>337107028
My fellow of African-American descent
>>337113476
this
there has to be a mod out there for it thought right
>>337116234
If by "mod" you mean "gun", sure
>>337115003
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Legend_of_the_Star
>According to Joshua Sawyer, the quest was inspired by his experiences collecting Tootsie Roll Pop wrappers as a boy due to a false rumor that sending 100 special wrappers bearing illustrations of a boy dressed as a Native American shooting an arrow at a star would yield a special prize. The story that Festus tells upon completion of the quest is based upon a story that was sent out to children who sent in wrappers and it shares many common elements. A terminal shows that the rumor about a prize was not created by the Sunset Sarsaparilla Company, and was only used to continue the increase in profits that was started by the rumors.
>>337106676
>and stupid 100 skill checks for tons of things that you'd not have 100 points in at the recommended level
You are not supposed to pass all of them you retarded min-maxer. It's called "roleplaying game" for a reason.
>>337106676
>No, I don't want
>No, I don't want
>No, I don't want
>No, I don't want
Kek, I would like to see you in any kind of an emergency.
>food shortage
>NO I DON'T WANT THAT SLIGHTLY STALE BREAD. I WANT CAVIAR. IS THAT TOO MUCH? CAN I HAVE CAVIAR, CHRIS? NO?
>>337113018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iiJMgUlIR8
I knew I heard Streets of Reno somewhere.
>>337108527
>new vegas is empty while Fallout 3 was not
When will this shit die already? It's blatantly false.
New Vegas has a larger map, more locations, and while the game indeed has wast sections of nothingness (it's a fucking wasteland, what do you expect) you are always going to find something unique eventually. It's called exploration.
Meanwhile Fallout 3 also has wast sections of nothingness as well, but nothing in it is unique. It's all just metro tunnels with ghouls/raiders or small ruined DC sections with supermutants/raiders.
>>337117260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L14UKBjC5Is
It's Streets of Laredo
>>337108689
Everyone loves her F2 sister.
NV version is just a vastly inferior light machine gun with better (but still shitty) spread andd marginalyl higher damage, but only 30 rounds instead of fucking 200.
>>337109352
Creation (aka Gamebryo 2.0) engine sucks.
Things are marginally more fluid which is nice I guess, but everything is fucking greasy so no thanks.
>>337111323
>Fallout 3
>bright reinvention
>>337118154
you can almost smell todd's dick on that review
>>337111810
>Is it bad? Is it good?
It's neither. What a stupid fucking question.
If a brick is used to kill a baby, yet ends up being extremely beneficial because someone was there to make sure it was used to build a house, how is brick supposed to be judged from a moral point of view?
>>337103449
BETTER DEAD THAN RED
Green laser best laser
Red laser go home
>>337092725
I've got sperms
>>337114128
>yet refuse to visit /vg/ even when there are clearly enough of you to outnumber the existing fallout general or just start a new one
/fog/ serves as a containment thread right now, and I doubt it will change anytime soon.
>>337118349
Needs more raw AMERICA you Commie Pinko sonuvabitch
>>337118918
>and I doubt it will change anytime soon.
yeah because nvfags would rather keep posting their generals on /v/ instead of the board designed for general threads.
How does one truly prevent corporate espionage?
>>337119415
If we were to make a NV general on /vg/, F4 shittery and waifufaggotry would inevitably leak.
Face it, /vg/ is just a containment board. If anything you should be complaining about Overwatch since this game would fit right in on /vg/, it was designed with waifufaggotry in mind.
>>337103449
Have you seen what one of these can do to a deathclaw?
>>337119489
By going insane and turning your factory into a deathtrap
>>337119489
By being one of dem legion boyz
SIXTY MINUTEMEN
I feel like the strongest gun in the game is the LAER from OWB
>>337120114
>Not using the veteran ranger one
Shame on you anon.
>>337117849
>most technology looks pretty good
>anything that breathes looks pretty bad
Bethesda is an interesting creature.
>>337103449
Holorifle is the best weapon there is
>Damage out of the ass
>Ammo readily available
>Durable as fuck
>combines energy weapons with shotguns, making the perfect looking weapon
>who cares about no replacement parts, you got repair kits out of the ass after DM anyways
>>337120590
>Holorifle is the best weapon there is
That's the reason why I don't like it.
Shit's broken.
>>337117553
>Larger map
>of course it's a wasteland, you'll find something unique eventually
>Not in Fallout 3 though even though it's the same thing but I'm too retarded to actually give a argument.
>>337120396
Shame it breaks so fast
Unlike>>337120590 which does almost the same damage but is pump action instead of semi auto
>>337120396
Naaaah, with the broken stealth mechanics, that would be the Gobi Campaign rifle. Just keep sniping the poor fucks and hear that sweet karma sound when you get a headshot.
>>337103449
Scoot over, a proper lady is in town.
>>337120396
Elijah's Advanced LAER with both mods is pretty goddamn powerful
But the spread is awful for mid/long range and it breaks if you so much as look at it. And it looks ridiculous. The first person view is like looking at the back of a hairdryer
>>337120659
Fair point, personally I like the look of it
It looks rugged, but not wholly impractical like most energy weapons
Only the Gauss Rifle looks rather sleek
The rest is just painful to see
>best weapon
>no one posted police pistol
min-maxing faggots
>>337120590
>>337120659
>4 shots before reload
nah
I want my lasers doing dakka
>>337118918
>>337119659
There's shitposting on both sides. If someone tries to talk about Fallout 3 or 4 on /v/, the NV fans always without fail try to bring up NV and how it's the superior game and derail discussion. These NV threads are constant and unending, always hitting bump limit and should definitely be on /vg/. The only reason it isn't is because the people who post here know they can't stay in their own little circlejerk if they actually go the general designed for all fallout games.
Do +damage and +speed drugs work with ranged weapons?
>>337120680
>even though it's the same thing
It's not.
>but I'm too retarded to actually give a argument
Talk about irony.
>>337121165
+damage certainly do, but no idea about speed.
>>337120970
>there's enough interest and people for constant NV discussion but you can't be allowed to constantly discuss NV because i don't like NV
do you realize how stupid you are? of course you don't
>>337108527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvtX-QZkzYU
>>337112863
Thank God it's not the Edit.
>>337121193
How is it different? In both games, you have to explore the wasteland to find anything (new locations, unique weapons, quests). The fact that you prefer one over the other doesn't mean dick. And you didn't give an argument.
Fallout 3's map is much bigger than New Vegas'.
>>337120781
>doesn't like the Defender
>doesn't like the RCW
We can never be friends, guy
>>337121460
Fuck. The RCW, I forgot
That thing is a beauty
I'm ashamed of myself for forgetting such a gorgeous weapob
>>337121323
But that isn't the problem. The discussion was the never the problem. The fact that this thread is on the wrong board is the problem. The reasoning behind having this thread here all the time (Falllout 4 circlejerk) is fucking bullshit. But thanks for the two cents though.
>>337098194
It'd be better if he had a unique face, he might've gotten it if the game had more development time. It's a shame I can use this excuse for so much about this masterpiece.
>>337108527
>Fallout 3 has so many interesting things to do
Objectively false. Fallout 3 has zero minigames and therefore automatically has less things to do than in NV.
>every location has something neat
Again, not true. There are only a few neat locations and the rest are either boring or simply exist because "omg look how bizarre and wacky this is xDD!!! this is what fallout is about, right? :^)"
Fallout 3's world doesn't feel like a world, it doesn't make any sense. It feels like a theme park and not an actual living world.
>>337121603
>this thread is on the wrong board
I don't know, let me check
>video game board
>fallout is a video game
>it isnt a pokemon videogame so it doesnt belong to vp, it isnt a retro game so it doesnt belong to vr, it isnt a general so it doesnt belong to vg
Nope, the only thing wrong here is you.
>>337104694
>I think the characters are the only good thing about DM.
You are correct.
>>337121447
> In both games, you have to explore the wasteland to find anything (new locations, unique weapons, quests)
The difference being the amount and quality of those locations, unique weapons and quests.
>Fallout 3's map is much bigger than New Vegas
While also being a lot more generic and with not much variation between different areas.
>>337110528
FO4 barely looks better than a modded FNV. The FO4 wouldn't make NV any better since it' still essentially the same unstable gamebryo engine bethesda has used since forever.
>>337121901
>FO4 barely looks better than a modded FNV
Arguable, modded FNV doesn't have that "Wax covered in grease" syndrom that F4 (and amny other modern RPGs for that matter) has.
>>337122313
>my p...
What did she mean by this?
>>337122151
Yeah, everything looked like potatoes instead
I don't like the greased look anymore than you do but if it makes sense in a setting, is fallout where everything is dirty and shitty. And FO4 looks miles better than NV and F3 in every sense - try not playing on minimum next time
>>337122409
Yeah, Fallout 4 is miles ahead graphically. Truly an outstanding work from Todd and the gang.
>>337122409
>everything looked like potatoes instead
We are talking about modded NV Anon.
>>337122825
you don't need to be the best looking game of the generation to look miles better than NV and F3 you know. of course you do, you're just being retarded.
>>337122909
>miles ahead
>>337122825
trinity tower alone would be enough to bring F3 and NV to its knees
let alone all the rest around it
>>337122909
Except FO4 doesn't look better. It still has terrible textures, washed out lighting, instead of potato NPC's we got ones that look like they're made from clay and what's worst is that it runs like ass probably because it's pushing the shitty engine to the absolute limit.
>>337122909
And yeah I forgot this >>337122890
Modded NV has better character models
>>337120701
>Ranger Sequoia
My nigga, this shit right here is what weeds out the men from the boys
>>337123243
Basically how I feel as a CS student
>>337123243
Don't remember that one. What quest/location is it from?
>>337123392
The very end of Come Fly With Me if you have low INT
>>337123392
Come fly with me.The ghoul one where you send them to space
>>337123543
>space
they come back in nearly every Novac ending if you don't kill them
>>337123095
>trinity tower
Sure is pretty.
>>337123308
More like
>You don't think you accomplished much, but you passed so who gives a fuck
>>337104824
>>337104970
He actually admits that the Brotherhood's current ideals will be the death of them. He just has his hands tied.
>>337094369
>I've tried to do Legion before but the quest line is pretty shitty.
I know that feel. But mods can kinda fix it:
Legion Quests Expanded
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/60208/?
Caesars New Regime - Legion Overhaul
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45557/?
Factions Reloaded - Legion
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/51983/?
>>337122890
NVR is too good, it makes such an huge impact to the believability that it's insane.
>>337123864
>rec'ing Caesars New Regime
fuck you
that shit is absolutely awful, all the new content they want to implement is retarded and take a huge shit on the lore
>>337103785
Or you can play with this mod:
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37729/?
It's okay, the quest was cut from the original game because of time, it's not like it's some fanfic bullshit.
>>337124061
It got cut because it didnt made sense and Jsawyer commented about it
House would never allow the Brotherhood to hoard technology and the Brotherhood would never leave house and his secrets/securitrons alone. There's no way they would work together when their objectives are so different
>>337107353
>create a stealth suit
>it's medium armor
>>337123993
I haven't even played it. What's so awful?
I did played with Legion Quests Expanded, that is a must, because the Legion faction is cut up all over the place in vanilla New Vegas.
>>337123961
Yeah.
Shame ENB fucks with it though.
>>337122890
Do you get character creator for yourself with NVR 3?
And how about Fallout Character Overhaul:
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/54460/?
Is it shit?
>>337124525
Just look at the bottom row
That should be enough answer that FCO is shit and makes all women look like trannies
>>337124525
Man forget that noise. Just use brow scar
>>337124525
>Do you get character creator for yourself with NVR 3?
Nope, it's just a redesign of existing NPCs.
There is nothing inherently wrong with the character creator in NV if you know how to design a character properly and have enough time to do so.
>And how about Fallout Character Overhaul
I think it's not fully compatible with NVR.
>Is it shit?
Imo it makes everyone look screepy as fuck.
Just look at those eyes and facial expressions, they have no souls.
>>337123838
>has his hands tied
He has the self awareness to see that the BoS is on the path to extinction and there wont be some last minute comeback but he's still, at his core, a BoS Elder. He didn't get to that position by doubting and questioning the Codex.
NCR forever.
>>337121663
>Fun and unique locations are bad
>Theme parks arent fun
You are just a mad shitposter, stop right there,Have fun in your sand LOL
>>337124260
New Regime is what happens when a mod creator cares enough to try and make their mod "lore friendly" but then completely disregards the lore they're trying to stay friendly to
>>337124627
>>337124738
I did download it pretty much just for the character creator. And now if I delete, my save can be fucked.
And the faces of the NPCs are okay and have high textures, but yeah, they are pretty robotic.
Maybe I will try NCR3 in the future or if I can unfuck my save after I delete the mod.
>>337111323
>wot
Disregarded opinion already.
>>337106503
>25000 Capsydoos
>>337092725
>single action revolver
>ejector rod in the center of the cylinder
Why can't artists into guns?
>can play best mod with EVE
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40048/?
Life is cruel.
>>337121806
>video game discussion
ok
>long running thread
wait a minute
>reoccuring over months and months or in this case, years
>>>/vg/
>People unironically waifu up to Veronica Belmont whom singlehandledly ruined OWB and retroactively Christine.
She can't fucking voice act and is annoying as fuck.
>>337125351
>one character you'll only hear if you bother to find the holotape
>two characters you'll hardly ever talk to because they're useless
>one suit of armour that's actually shit for what it's intended to do andcan be modded to be silent
Yeah, she sure ruined the whole DLC with her constant presence
>>337125310
*can't
But yeah, I think no one knows about this mod. When you roast people, they turn into roasted meat, not just lifeless clean mannequins. Pretty good for immersion.
>>337124525
FCO is dogshit in itself but you need to install it before installing NVR3.
>>337121848
Fallout 3 has unique weapons though. Fallout 3 has a bunch of stand alone quests all over the map though. Fallout New Vegas has locations that don't have any significance at all, not even various loot though. What are you saying that isn't based on personal preference for New Vegas? New Vegas having more quests doesn't mean Fallout 3 had no quests at all.
>More generic
>No variation
The part of the map in New Vegas that isn't the actual town is just caves and desert roads. Any ruins you find are just burned out gas stations and food shops.
>>337109335
top zozzle
>>337124950
I guess I just prefer RPG's more. Not FPS sandboxes.
>>337125617
You can't play both. You will crash like a motherfucker.
NV Redesigned 2 or 3? I keep seeing a lot of negativity for FCO and I'm not too fussed if 3 a relatively minor improvement
>>337125216
It's actually on the side, it's just a pin.
Why can't you into perspective?
>>337125624
>Fallout 3 has unique weapons though.
And all of them have the same texture as the base weapon.
>Fallout 3 has a bunch of stand alone quests all over the map though.
Yeah, literally a bunch. Fallout 3 has like, what? 15 sidequests?
>>337120590
its great but energy weps get pretty boring fairly fast, at least for me they always do
One thing I noticed is how New Vegas favors all weapon play styles at all times.
For example, take a look how many of each category of weapon each DLC adds.
Then take a look on how many unarmed weapons all F3 DLC adds combined.
>>337125835
Same texture, different damage and AP costs. Is that not unique or is it only unique if you get a super special paintjob on your weapon?
And quantity =/= quality. Fallout 3 has much fewer quests than New Vegas but it doesn't suffer the same problem with New Vegas where alot of quests are fetch quests and you have to go through tons and tons of loading screens or have quite as many quests that can be bugged out.
>>337121901
huh? NV with good parallax textures, better meshes and a good ENB looks stunning, so much better than FO4 its unreal
>>337126228
Well, yeah the whole point of an unique weapon IS FOR IT TO BE FUCKING UNIQUE.
>>337125624
>Fallout 3 has unique weapons though
Barely. All I can think of is Lincoln reapater and all improvised weapons.
I don't consider simple stat changes to be unique wepaons, since I could shit dozens of them in a minute in GECK if I wanted to.
NV on the other hand has an unique version with different model/texture for nearly every gun it the game, and has a lot more weapons in general.
>Fallout 3 has a bunch of stand alone quests all over the map though
Not nearly as much as NV and most of the is pretty shallow.
>Fallout New Vegas has locations that don't have any significance at all, not even various loot though
Yeah, a few. F3 has dozens of locations that have no significance at all, and sorry but slapping random loot generators all over the place doesn't count as good design.
>What are you saying that isn't based on personal preference for New Vegas?
Pretty much all of it.
>New Vegas having more quests doesn't mean Fallout 3 had no quests at all.
Never said that.
>The part of the map in New Vegas that isn't the actual town is just caves and desert roads
Most of those caves have backstories and/or unique loot, different enemies, etc.
You are lucky to run itno something different than raider/gholu/supermutant in F3.
>Any ruins you find are just burned out gas stations and food shops
I remember a few. They certainly don't make up the majority of the game.
>>337126220
I don't get what you're saying here. Couldn't you take your own weapons into most DLC in Fallout 3 and if you weren't able to, got supplied with the standard weapons that were already in the base game?
>>337126384
So it really just comes down to weapon skins? Well alright fair enough. Fallout 3 doesn't have that like New Vegas does.
Face it, Fallout 3 and 4 are better. Reading is for losers.
>>337126228
>Same texture, different damage and AP costs
Slight changes to numerical values are hardly making anything unique.
Those wepaons rarely have any backstories, too. They are not uniue, they are just another generic version of the same item.
>Fallout 3 has much fewer quests than New Vegas but it doesn't suffer the same problem with New Vegas where alot of quests are fetch quests
You sure we played the same game?
>>337126542
A lot of unique weapons in New Vegas actually function in different ways to the regular counterparts because they're, y'know, unique
But you're right, 3 doesn't remotely have anything like that
Damn, the game is piss easy with project Nevada. The mod is pretty good, but the bullet time is too op.
>>337126398
Modding in unique weapons isn't the same as having base game uniques. And stat changes distinguish uniques from standards weapons. Weapon skins is a problem in Fallout 3 but that doesn't mean there no unique weapons.
>Pretty shallow
Fallout 3 quests are all pretty deep, all at least having multiple ways to finish and all able to be done or done by certain roleplays. No less than New Vegas though New Vegas obviously has more quests overall.
>Dozens of locations with no significance
The only locations that come to mind are the satellite array sites that really had nothing there and those were much more interesting than the throw away locations in New Vegas.
>Pretty much all of it
Nah
>Most of those caves have backstories
They really don't. They are just loot tunnels for the most part. If they don't have quests attached to them, they didn't have anything of value or worth exploring for.
>Don't make up the majority of the game
That's like half of the map. And they spliced in some cool places here and there but it is not that fun to explore comparing it to Fallout 3. It is really bland for the most part.
>>337127183
>Fallout 3 quests are all pretty deep, all at least having multiple ways to finish and all able to be done or done by certain roleplays
hahaha what
you never fucking played Fallout 3
>>337103186
Forcing you to do stealth with out a stealth build made me get really creative and i loved that i genuinely felt at risk the whole time. Also the characters were pretty fleshed out.
>>337126694
The locations and quests you usually find unique weapons from in Fallout 3 are usually pretty interesting and clearly have a backstory or written dialogue about them somewhere. weapon skins don't suddenly make weapons super rare or cool. It's the stat bonuses that matter overall.
I just replayed New Vegas for a no kill run. Really fun btw. And I can say undoubtedly that the latter part of the game had a shit ton of fetch quests. That was really the load to go through before the endgame.
>>337103449
Did some tricky shit to get one at camp golf to not nigger trigger the ncr. So fucking worth
>>337093405
Meanwhile at Fallout 4 threads...
>>337097003
So is your face but we still allow you to post here.
>>337127034
If we're talking Gun Runner's arsenal you're right. If you're talking base game to base game, you're wrong. New Vegas unique weapons don't all have this incredibly different experience to using regular standard guns. Weapon skins don't change overall gameplay.
Fallout 3 has unique objectively.
>>337127183
>stat changes distinguish uniques from standards weapons
Yes, barely.
Weapons in New Vegas have different skins, different stats, pre-set amount of mods already attached and often sport mods that can't be acquired for the base model.
>Fallout 3 quests are all pretty deep
They are not. A few were trying to and turned out ok but those were exceptions.
>all at least having multiple ways to finish and all able to be done or done by certain roleplays
And it usually ended up like pic related.
>>337127615
reddit please leave
>>337127368
Good to know you have accepted my argument and have now conceded you're wrong by flinging shit at me. Thanks my man.
>>337122313
dude, seriously?
>>337122384
her pa, probably.
>>337127632
What would there be to talk about in a FO4 thread? What random drop you got for killing a legendary enemy? I can't think of anything else.
>>337127965
Waifufaggotry mostly.
>>337127779
Fallout 3 doesn't have mods. The uniques obviously wouldn't either.
The quests were all deep and usually pretty different from one another. That pic you posted doesn't prove anything. That's a dialogue option that can match a person's skills with what they might say. That isn't an indication of everything the game does in terms of allowing freedom in gameplay.
>>337093953
Dead money is the best. Only casual scum hate it. OWB is okay, honest hearts is okay and I never bothered with lonesome road.
>>337096398
looks like national lampoons with some anime features thrown in.
>>337127183
>Fallout 3 quests are all pretty deep, all at least having multiple ways to finish and all able to be done or done by certain roleplays
Republic of Dave was probably the only quest with multiple conclusions
>Dozens of locations with no significance
and the copy paste burned out churches, and the same copy paste diners, and the same copy paste metro tunnels (yeah I said it, doesn't make it less true), and the same copy paste business offices.
>>337128437
>Republic of Dave
yeah that was a fun quest lol. But really, all of them had at least two different outcomes.
>Churches, diners, metro tunnels
Better than gas station #6 and rand cave #10. The metro tunnels were really not that bad. You could get lost in them but they were much better about loading screens than New Vegas was.
>>337128771
>at least two different outcomes
Oooh, a Good Karma ending and a Bad Karma ending, so deep
Easily impressed, aren't you
>>337092725
>CHOP, CHOP, CHOPPIN THOSE SPURS
>>337128153
>The quests were all deep and usually pretty different from one another.
They were not. I dunno why you are still repeeating this while it's not true and everyone who played Fallout 3, liked it or not, know that.
>That pic you posted doesn't prove anything.
It literally proves that not all quests in F3 are "pretty deep". Literally.
>That's a dialogue option that can match a person's skills with what they might say
If you take those away, there is not much roleplaying left (yeah there are a few options here and there, few and far between) in the whole survival guide quest, which has to be the longest side quest in the entire F3.
>That isn't an indication of everything the game does in terms of allowing freedom in gameplay
Well I got more.
Base game of Fallout 3 has exactly 14 main quests, 17 sidequests and around 37 unmarked quests that I;m not going to talk about because it;s going to take too long.
Main quests:
#1: Literally no choices beyond SPECIAL selection, it's a tutorial.
#2: Another tutorial. You can piss of Butch and act like a dick to your dad. Nice.
#3:Last of the tutorial quests. You get to do a test that will determine your skills, but in the end it doesn't fucking matter because you are going to assign them yourself anyway.
#4: You can act like a dick to Amata and kill her Dad, which will slightly (but not substantially) change one of the quests later in the game.
#5: You look for Dad. You can get info about him from Moriarty in afew different ways, but none of the changes the outcome and you can't get the infro from anyone else.
You then talk to ThreeDog. You can either do his fetch quests or skip it with a speech check.
(this is actually something that really bothers me about 3. Speech checks are mainly used to skip quests rather than get more content.)
Then you get to the memorial and listen to tapes.
Overall, a few skillchecks that don't change anything and that's it.
#6: Already talked about it as part of #5.
cont.
>>337128925
There were few quests where you could actually anything very evil. How you roleplayed determined how quests would end. What you actually got in terms of karma didn't matter because there could be four different endings to quests where about three different outcomes could actually net you good karma. Different dialogue and how you felt your character should act made the real difference.
I'm not easily impressed, it's just that impressive.
>NV looks better than Fallout 4
>>337129352
>Everyone who played Fallout 3
I don't think anybody here has actually played Fallout 3 for very long. Everyone seems to not know alot about the game.
The dialogue isn't as good as New Vegas. Fair enough. But the dialogue is all meaningful to the roleplay. Everything the PC chooses to build on is there to be exploited in dialogue and combat.
>Talking about tutorial being a tutorial
That's literally all the vault was. A tutorial. If you didn't like the tutorial, fine. That doesn't mean it's indicative of what the rest of the game is. It's just introducing the player to the gameplay.
>>337102521
fuck fallout 4.
>>337129352
#7: You talk to Lee and follow the quest marker to Vault 112.
That's it.
#8: Get out of simulation. Now this one actually let's you roleplay just a little bit, but suprise, it doesn't change anything.
It's the usual "goody-two-shoes or dick" dilemma. Was fun though.
#9: Clear the purifier from mutants, run around the whole purifier like a retard (basically a fetch quest) watch dad die.
Dad can also call you on nuking a whole city, in which case he will tell you how dissapointed he is.
#10:Get to the Vault 87. No roleplaying. Also contains Little Lamplight, which got to be the most retarded and out of place location in the entire game.
#11: This one is actually a sidequest, but will be mandatory if you don't skip it with a speech check.
You have to rescue a few kids from Paradise falls. I admit there was a few clever alternate ways to go about it and it did support roleplaying, even though again it doesn't change shit.
One might wonder why, of all quests, this one is actually the most likely to be skipped.
#12:Get GECK. Just a big dungeon, no roleplaying.
#13: Get out of Enclave base. A few checks, not much roleplaying. You get to tell the President to kill himself though, which was ridiculous to the point of being funny I guess.
#14: Retake the purifier. You get to decide if a Autumn will be spared or not, and finally, you get to make a decison that actually matters.
You are presented with 4 option:
1. Goody-two-shoes: Kill yourself to save the world. Which doesn't make any sense if you have radiation-immune companions with you, but whatever. Fixed in the DLC I guess.
2: Kinda-Dick: Let Sarah kill herself.
3: Dick: Contaminate the water with FEV. One might wonder why owuld anyone do this for reasons other than being a dick, but whatever
3: Totally-Dick: Do nothing and let the whole place blow up. No comment
Summary
Out of 14 quests, only a handful had any ways to roleppaly *at all*, while only one (final) quest had consequences.
cont.
>>337108330
W-what mod?
>>337113340
you're wrong, and the songs are gr8
>>337130664
You're describing these quests in a way that makes me misunderstand what you think of rolepalying. What do you consider roleplaying?
In New Vegas, once you reach the strip in Ring a ding ding (a quest that can be accomplished by just killing a bunch of people, no roleplaying) then kill Benny and take the chip. Make your way to cottonwood and activate the securitrons, clearing that dungeon, once again no roleplaying and leaving and psosbly destrouying the legion base with caeser, once again no roleplaying. The pivotal quest of New Vegas, the one that acts as the catalyst and backbone to the rest of the game, has no roleplaying. Crazy, crazy.
>>337127632
Obsidian made a better game in a fucking desert.
>>337095804I can't let go...
>>337130003
When you see "cont." on the end of the post, it means I'm not done yet. I'm gonig to talk about every single quest individually, because otherwise you will keep crying that
>n-not all those quests are like that!
>>337131324
You can finish the game without meeting Benny at all, and the wohle main quest has 4 branching paths after that. Discarded. Stop embarassing yourself just because I decided to actually take my time and call you on your bullshit.
>>337130664
Side Quests:
#1 "Agatha's Song": Get a violin.
Fetch quest. Literally.
You are presented with 2 choices:
1: Goody-two-shoes: Give the violin to Agatha, get good boy points and opportunity to hear her playing it.
2: Dick: Sell the violin. You get caps.
Overall, a fetch quest with 2 usual "good/bad boy" outcomes. Not deep, at all.
#2: "Big Trouble in Big Town": Deal with the supermutant attacks in Big Town.
This quest has barely any roleplaying, but it does have two stages:
1: You need to rescue 2 kids. Depending on how many of them you manage to save, you get 200/300/500 caps.
2: Either repel the attack or ignore it. Classic "good/bad boy" dilemma. Ignoring the attack doesn't do anything. If you decide to repel it, you get 4 different skill checks to help the residents, and after you succeed, you get free repair/medical services.
Overall, not much in terms of roleplaying, but hey it has 4 skill check so I guess it's something.
cont.
>>337095804
>Console, tee gee fucking tee
lol I was short on caps
>>337131658
I'm not going to wait for you to finish writing all this bullshit. I'll take you post by post and I expect you to continue then rebuttal when you're done now keep as you were.
You can go through Fallout 3 without meeting Doctor Li or talking to Moriarty before catching up to dear old dad so how is that a point for New Vegas? The main quest branches into questlines that are on in the same. If you do enough before making it to that part of the game, everything becomes a fetch quest where you either kill a faction or you get the to say some generic dialogue about supporting you. The khan faction might be the most different in that regard but it still doesn't mean very much overall.
You can just killer Agatha, give her the violin then kill her later, sell the violin and then kill her or ignore, all valid endings to her role in the game.
In Big trouble, how are you not roleplaying when you talk to the denizens and either help or not help with their dilemma. You can rescue Red and not even get an award or go to the town if you so choose.
>>337124937
X) LOVE NCR
>>337132394
>You can go through Fallout 3 without meeting Doctor Li or talking to Moriarty before catching up to dear old dad so how is that a point for New Vegas?
Because in New Vegas, at one point the story branches into mutually exclusive queslines.
>The main quest branches into questlines that are on in the same.
Yeah, I totally remember killng Kimball when working for NCR and making a truce with Kings while working for Caesar. Totally.
> If you do enough before making it to that part of the game, everything becomes a fetch quest where you either kill a faction or you get the to say some generic dialogue about supporting you.
>if you do all the non-fetch quests, everything that remains is fetch quests!
Well aren't you a smart one.
Not to mention dealing with the factions is not the same for every questline.
>You can just killer Agatha
That's dumb.
>give her the violin then kill her later
That's not even dumb, that doesn't make any sense unless you are min-maxing.
>sell the violin and then kill her
That's also simply dumb.
>all valid endings to her role in the game
No those are not valid ending, at all. All those thing are fucking stupid and there is no motivation to do any of those whatsoever, unless you are just fucking stupid.
Shit, at this point I don't even know if I need to continue. You are literally arguing that giving someone a violin only to kill him and sell it is "pretty deep rolepalying".
>>337133368
Well it's pretty clear that you're going to ignore most of the stuff I say unless it helps with your argument so i'm just going to wrap up your post.
The questlines are objectively not mutually exclusive since, while you have to branch at some point, all the quests tie into each other and whether you're helping one faction or working over another, they all follow you anyway and what faction you join is based pretty much on a couple lines of dialogue that are not very distinguishable from another amongst the factions.
Killing Kimbal or not killing him is not much different from going down a good karma path or bad karma path. It impacts certain factions in either a good or bad way and who you're riding with encapsulates that.
The truce with the kings is a different facet of joining the NCR but only if you choose to actually do that. You could be made to deal with the kings in another way if your actions up to that point disallow you to make the truce. This is still tied in with my point about the fetch quests. All you're really doing is dealing with a faction with dialogue or combat. No roleplaying.
You can't say a person's way of playing the game is stupid and dismiss it. Anybody can play any kind of way and that's the point of roleplaying. The fact that you wouldn't do it just means you wouldn't play that sort of role or think to anyway. A PC's motivations are whatever the player deems them to be even in the framework of the story. That's the point of customization.
You can leave this argument. You didn't really have any good points anyway.
>>337122313
>that seems like a pretty stiff price
>>337134916
>The questlines are objectively not mutually exclusive since, while you have to branch at some point, all the quests tie into each other
They don't.
You don't even get the quest about Kings when working fro House, you don't need to blow up Brotherhood when working for NCR, you don't even get the quest with Omertas when working for NCR etc.
Those questlines are objectively mutually exclusive. They may share a few quests, but they are vastly different from each other.
>Killing Kimbal or not killing him is not much different from going down a good karma path or bad karma path.
Entirely different skill checks and action you take.
Entirely different interactions with certain NPCs.
Entirely different consequences.
>The truce with the kings is a different facet of joining the NCR but only if you choose to actually do that.
No Anon, other questlines literally don't have that quest. At all. It's always a different facet no matter what you choose, play the fucking game.
>All you're really doing is dealing with a faction with dialogue or combat
>No roleplaying
Roleplaying is about making choices based on what kind of character you play. This quest fits the definition of good roleplaying because it allows you to make a lot of different choices based on what kind of character you play as, both in terms of skills and views.
>You can't say a person's way of playing the game is stupid and dismiss it.
I'm not dismissing it, but it is stupid.
>Anybody can play any kind of way and that's the point of roleplaying.
Yeah, but if the amount of choices the game gives you is low, it's not a good roleplaying game.
You can kill all the NPCs in New Vegas as well. In fact, you can't do that in Fallout 3, so New Vegas is superior in that regard.
>A PC's motivations are whatever the player deems them to be even in the framework of the story. That's the point of customization.
The customization is F3 is shallow. You can't argue that killing someone or not is deep
cont.
>>337092998
Have fun with your radiation, loser
>>337136050
roleplaying because that's always an option.
I mean, it's actually not in F3, which only makes it more shallow.
F3 has very shallow roleplaying. We already came to a conclusion that all the motivation and choices your character is given are either good/bad/stupid, and I think the ending of F3 reflects that perfectly as well.
>>337107750
I know it sounds strange when I type it out, but I don't necessarily dislike the BoS in NV. Yes, they're dicks, and yeah, they kinda treat you like shit, but so do the Boomers at first. That's just kind of how they are. Eventually they do grow to accept and welcome you.
Wiping them out, to me, feels wrong in a way. They're not like the fiends or powder gangers, who seem to only exist to fuck shit up. The BoS does have ideals and goals, even if they're not in-line with what other factions want. They have a vision for the future, and work towards it. Because of all that, literally slaughtering them just feels wrong to me.
So while I can understand why House wants them eradicated, it doesn't make the action any more enjoyable.
>>337136050
Mutually exclusive would mean that a quest could not be done depending on your actions and the quest would be a consequence rather than a apart of any sequence. I was agreeing with you that the King's quest was mutually exclusive to the NCR. I was disagreeing with you that it had meaningful roleplay in that quest. Every other quest however can be done no matter what questline you eventually go down and you can hold off on doing anything specific to a faction of your choice until very late in the game. My proof would be my recent play of the game (that was really fun btw). Siding with Mr. House mad e no difference between anything i might have done with NCR besides the king quest and legion questline. The questlines weren't meaningful different which is ok but it means they weren't mutually exclusive.
Killing Kimball or NOt killing kimball involved alot of different scenarios that you could go through as a player and I'm not debating that. It wasn't meaningful different to doing a quest for karma points. How people view in reputation is alot like karma since people view you certain way based on your actions.
If you don't' get alot of rolpelay opportunity in Fallout 3, you sure as shit don't in New Vegas either because it call comes down to combat and dialogue. Roleplaying is based mainly on how the PC plays rather than what the game offers in skill checks. Skill checks != roleplaying at least not necessarily.
You can kill most everyone in Fallout 3. You can reduce rivet city to a ghost town and if you have the DLC, blow the brotherhood faction away.
Killing is always an option and can't be separated from roleplaying. What you do in interaction with npcs is apart of roleplaying. And Fallout 3 has all that.
Calling character alignment and player decision stupid is being dismissive. You're implying that it's not something someone would do in normal gameplay and you're wrong.
>>337137314
The difference between Boomers and BoS is that Booomers act in self-defense and for their own preservation and do not go out of their way to fuck shit up, while BoS is self-righetous and aggressive.
BoS are nothing more than raiders with excuses.
>>337117670
I'm pretty sure the regular LMG has a higher damage
>>337137826
>BoS are nothing more than raiders with excuses.
The same could be said about the NCR or the Legion.
>>337092725
No fallout game is worth playing past the first one.
prove me wrong
>>337137459
>Every other quest however can be done no matter what questline you eventually go down
Again:
Can't make a truce with Brotherhood in House/Caesar questline
Can't assasinate Kimball unless working for Caesar
Can't fight Lanius in Legion questline
Can't fight Olivier in NCR questline
And more. Not all quests are mutually exclusive but a lot of them are and endings/ certain consequences are as well.
>You can reduce rivet city to a ghost town
Shrapnel/Lee/Harkness would like to have a word with you.
>and if you have the DLC, blow the brotherhood faction away.
This is actually a good think to bring up since it has to do with me talking about "stupid" choices being such a big thing in F3.
You see, there is next to no motivation to nuke BoS. Like, think about it for a moment. It would make perfect sense to nuke BoS if you could actually side with Enclave, but you can't.
You are allowed to nuke BoS after you voluntarily help the defeat the remnants of the Enclave. I'm not saying that you couldn't have any motive to do that and it's a bad thing to have such a choice, but the whole thing is terribly designed.
>Killing is always an option and can't be separated from roleplaying. What you do in interaction with npcs is apart of roleplaying. And Fallout 3 has all that.
To a very limited degree. Being able to kill someone is basic stuff.
>Calling character alignment and player decision stupid is being dismissive.
It's not, I'm not saying it's not a viable option. I'm saying that the game doesn't give you any rasonable motive to do that so you are left with either sheer stupidity/being evil for sake of being evil.
And that can always be a motive no matter what. So if otions that are always present no matter what are the only ones, it's not really deep.
>>337138931
I don't support either of those.
NCR isn't too bad as it's not wholy based on agression towards others, but they seroiusly need to fuck off and keep to themselves and people who are actually willing to become a aprt of them instead of trying to annex everything.
Legion are raiders pretty much by definition. Their ultimate goal might be noble and all but in short term not so much.
I usually go House with maximum support to NCR.
>>337139189
You're confusing quests and questlines with quest specific decisions. Obviously you can't fight someone from your own faction because you'd alienate that faction. That has nothing to do with quests being largely the same no matter who you eventually side with. Who you recruit and who you kill might be different but the quests leading up to that point are all the same. Like I said, you have to branch eventually but it can be so late to the point where you've done all the questlines and just seeing which faction is going to end up shooting at you.
Three npcs out of a town of dozens doesn't mean you haven't massacred rivet city. Essential npcs suck but you can kill so many people besides them that it almost means nothing for them to still live.
Terrible design or throwing a bone to the omnicidal. It really just depends on how you see the decision to kill the brotherhood. There's no reason to kill anyone in these games since the only person that ever matters is yourself. It's all about the role.
You're saying the roleplaying is basic and there's for the lulz levels of evil in the game but you're admitting that there is roleplay in Fallout 3. Just not up to your standard which is to say it's not to your preference. That doesn't make Fallout 3 a bad game and it doesn't make everything you say about Fallout 3 true. It just means you have an opinion.
>>337140303
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You're saying the roleplaying is basic and there's for the lulz levels of evil in the game but you're admitting that there is roleplay in Fallout 3.
But I never said there isn't.
>That doesn't make Fallout 3 a bad game
Never said that either.
The whole discussion was about NV being superior in the aspect of roleplaying, not FAllout 3 having no roleplaying at all.
>>3370939
> Crit him with Mobius glove in one hit
> Stomp his face in till he dies
>>337140639
I'm sorry if i misread you. But i have read in this thread, Fallout 3 has no roleplaying, shallow roleplaying and basic to mediocre roleplaying. I still disagrree that roleplaying in New Vegas is superior to Fallout 3.
>>337140978
Well I'm getting tired so lets agree to disagree. I think roleplaying in F3 is pretty shallow/simplistic when compared to NV, but still beats F4 by a long shot.
>>337141374
for sure
I wish Fallout 4 wasn't a disappointment.
>>337105917
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Honest Hearts was awesome.
Dead Money was absolute shit tho.
>tfw you've beat NV so many times no amount of mods or mental fuckery on my behalf will ever bring me back the joy of when I was playing it
I'd feel forlorn but lately everything in my life is shit so at least I can have my fond rememberence.
Also Embrace of The Mantis King! is the non projectile weapon and you're a shitfag if you disagree(unless you like Figaro, in which case - great taste)
>>337093953
Dead Money seperates the men from the boys.
I finished it and went to sleep angry and exhausted, but the next morning I realized this was the most fun I've had with a game for a long time.
>>337142028
Honest Hearts was shit outside of graham, the "survivalists" caches/lairs and I guess giant mantids and yao guai was cool - but otherwise the only appeal I felt for HH was it was a breath of fresh air compared to the mojave. Clean drinking water everywhere, but deadly tribals.
DM is only shit if you have a bad attention span or don't like thinking when you play video games. I'll admit I hated the projections because I too hate that which I cannot kill but hey, it forced me to play methodically and intelligently so in this respect DM is my favorite.
>>337131658
NV has fetch quests too
>Boomers
>Come Fly With Me
>everything connected to the green Vault
This seems to be the only thread the mods won't nuke
>>337142680
at least those 3 quests have you interacting with interesting groups of characters or an interesting location. Fallout 3 has very few of either.
>>337142724
we're actually discussing video games, shocker
>>337136207
And diabeetus
>>337142378
>tfw you beat NV once and a second playthrough won't bring me back the joy of when I was first playing it
My biggest mistake was playing with my first character for too long. By the time he reached level 40 he was a skyrim type OP killing machine who has good standing with everyone but Legion and was good at everything (every skill above 50). I tried a second run but I feel like I've already seen every weapon, done every quest and worn every outfit.
>>337142680
Great job, none of those are fetch quests.
>>337094726
My smoothskin
>>337143223
>By the time he reached level 40 he was a skyrim type OP killing machine
Make an entirely different build.
>who has good standing with everyone but Legion
Go Legion
>and was good at everything (every skill above 50).
Mod the game to be harder
And generally just mod the fuck out of it.
>I tried a second run but I feel like I've already seen every weapon, done every quest and worn every outfit.
Improbable.
>>337143223
Just me but after I rape a game like I have NV, I installed J SAWYER mod and reserved myself to only using light armors and 2 main weapons and a melee/dagger.
Breathes life into the game for me. Problem with 3 and NV and probably most bethesda games is by a certain level the game is no longer challenging or fun - so we're forced to improvise.
I know fo4 was shit but I had much more fun playing a light combat armored character who never used power armor.
Because I need my deathclaw and sentry bot encounters to be lethal.
>>337142378
>tfw only got my pc a couple years ago and haven't been able to enjoy a playthrough because all the npcs in the strip and freeside keep disappearing
>tfw actually enjoyed new vegas more on the 360
>>337139189
You can kill Kimball as independent, but you're not supposed to
>>337103449
The weapons in this game are so beautiful, I hate how ugly as shit they are in F4.
>>337143726
Not comparable to the Legion quest though, entirely different conditions, checks, options etc.
>>337129584
not even close
>>337143584
>reserved myself to only using light armors and 2 main weapons and a melee/dagger
Feels better to get Project Nevada/git gud at GECK and mod the carry weight formula.
The usual is 150+10*STR. I changed it to 0+15*STR.
So if I want to actually have enough ammo, food, water and have enough space for some loot, I got to use lighter armors and lighter/less weapons.
