You faggots will argue over anything
>>337091497
Fuck off retard.
Aeris and Tide-us
Others just sound stupid
>>337091497
THE ONLY TIDE I'M HITTING IS A WAVE OF AWESOME 7UP PRODUCTS
>>337091497
No one cares.
Eh-eeh-Rah-eehz
Tee-dee-oohs
>the correct, canon spelling or the poorly localized misspelling
>the pronounciation that people who don't know Japanese may or may not say, or the pronounciation that correctly utilizes Japanese phonetics and has since been uttered multiple times in video games
I bet you pronounce 'caramel' as car-mal too, shithead
>weeb shit
How about neither
>>337091497
Ass and tits.
There.
send heartless angel?
Or Sin harvest?
>>337091681
EH REH
EH REH
Someone post the copypaste that blows the fuck out Aerithfags
Aeris and Tide us
Aeris actually takes into consideration the original phonetics of the name. Tide-us has an actual meaningful connection with elements and the character, something that stays true to the series.
Aery and Tydus
Fuck you.
>>337092152
>Tide-us has an actual meaningful connection with elements and the character
Actually Teedus is correct because his name is actually referencing the sun. Despite all the water imagery they used for the character his name mean sun. You're gonna have to deal with that.
I use Aeris or Aerith depending on whatever I feel like using at the moment.
Tide-us definitely sounds better but canon is canon. I might care a little more but it's FFX so whatever.
>>337091497
https://youtu.be/FyV5UrwROvU
it'sdesktop.jpg
>>337091497
the shit-sounding ones are official
if tidus were a girl ffx would have been sjw propoganda
>>337091497
Aerith and Teedus. Arguing otherwise is just being autistic.
>>337091497
Literally who?
It'sγγ£γΌγ
What the fuck is up with SE releasing ports merely days after their announcement with 0 publicity? What are they trying to do?
>>337092550
make money without spending money
>>337092348
>this character who is an ace at an underwater sport and is a great swimmer who is most depicted using a water sword in a world greatly connected with the sea should have a name that means sun because ???
Also friendly reminder that in other games they've went back and forth on the pronunciation as well, and James Arnold Taylor's account of where the Teedus pronunciation comes from is essentially a native English speaker winging it in a high pressure situation.
>>337091578
>>337092639
Sure but why aren't they advertising it a bit more? Let every nostalgiafag know they can burn their cash.
>>337091697
>has since been uttered multiple times in video games
But it isn't even consistent in games where they say Tidus
>>337091497
In the Japanese version, his name is spelled γγ£γΌγ. So it's pronounced Tee-da.
>>337091497
Tee-dus because he is a character designed primarily for the japanese and they pronounce Ti as Tee.
I still can't believe we are gonna get FFX and X-2 for PC
this is a glorious age to live
>>337093109
Fuck yeah man, I love paying for re-releases of games I can emulate, especially when they're half-assed "remasters."
>>337093086
So do you think Terra should be called Tina everywhere despite her name originally being Tina due to it sounding unique to them, even though it's not unique to us?
>>337091578
>>337093231
meh, I am gonna pirate it
>>337091497
It's Aerith
It's Tidus which is pronounced as Teedus.
>>337091497
Earth and tit-us.
IT MAKES FUCKING SENSE
TIDE-US
TIDE AS IN WAVE
LIKE HIS BROTHERHOOD SWORD
LIKE THE SPORT HE PLAYS
LIKE THE ISLANDS OF SPIRA
BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IT'S TEE-DUS
>>337092803
the only game to mention tidus by name is dissidia and they consistently call him Teedus
>>337093708
I don't know why you would even bother.
>>337093937
Kingdom Hearts 2, he's called Tide-us.
>>337094037
He's called teed-dus in both dissidia games and the first kingdom hearts. Dissidia duodecim is also the most recent one of them so it's tee-dus.
>>337093891
It's teedus because his name in ominawan means sun which is pronounced and spelled Tiida, Teedus is just that phonetic pronunciation with an S added while Yuna means moon in okinawan
>>337093937
KH 1 and 2 call him by name and they contradict each other
In FFXIV his name is never spoken by a VA but it's implied to be Tide-usThe REAL reason his name is Teedus is because the english narrator for the first ever trailer read his name as Teedus and the japs just assumed that was the correct pronunciation
Oh, are we arguing over pointless shit?
>Slide > Swingset
>Bouncy Castle
>Pop or soda, but never Soda pop.
>>337091497
>Aerith or Aeris
I just call her mah waifu
>>337091497
Tight-ass is more like it
>>337094194
I'll fucking eat you
>>337094194
>>Slide > Swingset
Is it even possible to have shittier taste?
>>337094194
>Pop or soda
It's coke.
>>337093937
The Voice actor of Tidus even mentioned its pronounced TEE DUS in a video he uploaded
>>337094194
>but never Soda pop.
I can definitely agree on that.
>>337091497
Aeris unless you're underage.
>>337093962
because I can
>>337094169
It's pronounced as teedus, his English VA confirmed it on his youtube channel
>>337094513
I literally just said that
>>337094194
A slide and a swing set are two completely different things.
>>337094506
You can play in traffic. How about you go do that?
>>337094465
Not anymore. The FF7 spinoffs, kingdom hearts, and duodecim made sure her name was aerith.
>>337094347
fight me faggot
>>337094572
wat?
>>337091497
Aeris is cute and I want her to give me a hug. She seems like the kind of person that would give really loving, energetic hugs.
>>337094594
They're secondary shit though.
Aeris
Tidus
I am an American and that is how those names are pronounced.
>>337094547
No because his name is teedus because >>337094161
Tiida okinawan for sun
Yuna okinawan for moon
Tiida is the phonetic Japanese spelling with English letters and pronunciation of his name, they spell it as Tidus in the dub.
>>337094194
>swingset > Slide > That thing where you sit on and just spins by itself
>Jumping Jack Flash
>Cola
>>337094714
https://youtu.be/FyV5UrwROvU?t=3m38s
Don't fucking cite a video if you don't watch the full thing, faggot
>>337094138
Them being different is still more than enough evidence to make it unclear. Besides, Duodecim is more or less just Dissidia 2.0, hard to consider them separate for this kind of thing.
>>337094714
It's not like the Tide has even more of a connection with the moon or anything.
Also as I mentioned before, if you actually listen to the story he tells, it really sounds like the English guy didn't want to fuck up and didn't have any idea about the source material, so he went with whatever sounded most like the Japanese version.
>>337094902
Did you even watch it? It's pronounced as Teedus because it comes from his Japanese name Tiida which is Okinawan for sun to contrast with Yuna which is Okinawan for moon, in the dub they spell it as Tidus but they told him it's pronounced as Teedus.
>Go to the FF wiki
>Get autistic levels of detail about how its actually Aerith
Pretty sure it's Aerith. Fuck even her and Sephiroth's name end in the same "γΉ" in jap.
>>337095239
>but they told him it's pronounced as Teedus.
Except he says literally the opposite of that happened
>>337095197
Sun and Moon are opposites and that's what it represents with Tidus and Yuna.
>>337091497
ItsZebeth
>>337095291
Are you retarded? Teedus has always been the pronunciation because his name is sounded phonetically as Tiida in Japan which means sun, they just spell it as Tidus in the dub but it's pronounced Teedus because of its origins
Guys.
It'sShuyin.
>>337095291
You can bitch all you want to anon. The fact is that the official pronunciation is Tee-dus, accident or not.
>>337092681
Because his name officially comes from the Okinawan word for "sun", dummy. And yes, it's pronounced Teedus (Teeda in Japanese).
>>337095520
>it's pronounced Teedus because of its origins
That's not what the VA says
>>337095578
>The fact is that the official pronunciation is Tee-dus
I never claimed otherwise
>>337091497
teedos
airef
>>337095197
>game's setting inspired by Okinawa
>the real main character has an Okinawan name
>hurr, that other MC is obviously named after an English word, you guise!
Logic is clearly not your strong suit.
>>337095317
Or the Moon influences the Tide's path. Any kind of connection the Sun and Moon thing can have, the Moon and Tide has something similar and at times more fitting.
>>337095583
Yeah no shit that's where his Japanese name Tiida comes from. Now how about the western name, Tidus? Why not use the clearly more appropriate pronunciation?
Air-eyes
Tea-doos
>>337095276
There's also a design sketch that spells his name "Sefiros". Square had no idea how to transliterate shit at the time, so they were writing everything in the most primitive way possible.
>>337095291
The two stories can be compatible. It's not uncommon for localization to render names differently from the original Japanese to make it easier to say and/or more pleasing to the ear; the thing about Tiida and Yuna is absolutely, incontrovertibly true; however, it's possible that Square thought it was more important that his name sound natural in the English dub than preserve the whole Okinawan thing which english-speaking audiences would never get anyway. When they heard the first guy say "teedus" they assumed that was the most natural-sounding pronunciation for english-speakers and went with that.
The bizarre thing is that someone on the localization team obviously intended Tidus to be pronounced like the western name Titus, because the original Japanese name doesn't even have an S(su) on the end. The fact that this person didn't or wasn't allowed to follow through on this and that the decision ended up falling to some random VA who probably knew nothing about the game really makes you wonder about how much of a shit they gave for international audiences.
>>337096394
The S/TH mixup is almost as dangerous as the R/L mixup.
>>337096684
There's no "h" in the Japanese spelling of "Kimahri" either (it's spelled "Kimari"), but nobody is arguing that it's now somehow unconnected with the intended meaning of his name (rule, custom). And by the way, Titus is pronounced "Teetus" in its original Latin.
>>337097101
His name has been Sephilos this entire time
>>337097158
Anon pls.
The 'h' is silent, it doesn't make a difference phonetically which is the only comparison you can make between Japanese and other languages.
It's not even like Sephiroth or Aerith where the sound('th') doesn't actually exist in Japanese so they're forced to use a vague approximation.
Granted, it's possible, but unlikely, that the S was added for some other reason. The way I see it the most likely explanation is that the translator saw "Tiida" and thought "fuck that's a weird-ass name, nobody will get it...I know, Titus is kinda similar to that, I'll just kinda throw on an S so it's like a variant of that"
I always choose names that are things.
Butz, Cara, Terra, Mash, Cayenne, Aerith, Dagger and Tide-us it is.
>>337091572
I'm with this anon
>>337091572
how the fuck does
>tide us
sounds less stupid then
>teedus
?
Tiddus
>>337091681
ah-EH-rih-ss
Well for starters Aerith is supposed to be an allusion to Earth, since her character plays a big roll in saving Gaia from Meteor. Aeris was a localization error they made for the english version.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Aerith_Gainsborough#Name
Tidus has always been Teedus. If you know anything about how people pronounce things in japanese you'd know this immidiately without even making a big fucking deal about it.
If you want even more proof, here's the engilsh voice actor for Tidus saying his name:
https://youtu.be/MurmenCSIOI?t=1m3s
Teedus is fucking retarded and SE can suck my dick if they every expect me to pronounce it that way.
>>337099770
>itt: ameriburgers who are too retarded to pronounce things correctly
>>337099770
>Teedus is fucking retarded
explain why tide-us is better
[/spoiler]i just named tidus my bane cause i thought tidus was a retarded name
>>337099852
You explained it yourself with the way you typed it out.
>>337099852
Not him but the name itself is retarded to begin with.
The correct way to pronounce it is TEEdus. Always has been.
>>337099852
because that's the only way his peanut sized American brain can process the name.
>>337099642
Because you aren't Japanese.
Aerith, and Tidus' English VA has confirmed it's Tee-Dus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyV5UrwROvU
>>337091497
EH REH DODODODOOO
>>337094594
the website was called aerisdies not aerithdies
>>337099852
Well for one it sounds closer to an actual name (Titus) and two there's a strong theme of water/oceans in Spira so the name fits that better when pronounced Tide-us.
>>337099973
Did you even listen to what he said and how the story was told?
>>337099942
I'm not american either. Why should I have to accept american pronunciations? Why shouldn't you pronounce it according to the country of origin?
>>337099837
itt, faggot weebs who pretend to be japanese
Teedus
Aerith and Aeris are equally correct.
>>337100028
>Titus
In my country it's pronounced Tit-us. But when the name is for an american character I say it like americans do, why can't americans do the same for characters from other countries?
>>337091497
Correct Pronunciation:
Dead.
Dead.
>>337100073
His name isn't Tiida in the west. It's Tidus. I'm also not american. Should you be saying Kuraudo too?
>>337100121
>the only places on Earth are Burgerland and Japan
anyone who isn't a lardbrain would think Tide-us is a retarded pronunciation. Stop munching on burgers and learn something about the world.
>>337094194
no
yes
Soft Drink
>>337100121
Do you call a character named "Juan" john? No?
Then why do you force american pronunciation into jap characters?
>>337099642
>>337099852
Because Tide-Us has precedence. It's essentially an alternate spelling of Titus. Names like Midas have a similar pronunciation. In what universe would you read it as anything else?
>duh dey wata in the game and tide mean wata so de wrong pronunciation is betta
God you're so fucking retarded /v/
>>337100404
that's burger logic for you
>>337100387
>In what universe would you read it as anything else?
>america is the only place in the universe
even "midas" is pronounced differently in different countries faggot.
also what the fuck is this captcha
>>337100059
Yes. But even then, in Dissidia and Duodecim, characters pronounce his name Teedus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkP834tgN1g
0:21
>>337100364
Juan isn't called John, he's called Juan. Tidus is called Tidus. That's hardly the same case at all. If Juan moved abroad and decided to change his name to John, would you still call him Juan?
>>337100536
>expecting Burgers to know there's a world outside of America
they can barely drag themselves out of bed and walk to the Taco Bell down the street: how are they supposed to know there's more to the world?
Air-is
Tee-duh
Fucking Anglos, I swear.
>>337100270
>Should you be saying Kuraudo too?
You're missing the point. If his Japanese name were Kurau, his name would be pronounced Clou and not Cloud.
>>337100364
Who does this? Lmao what a retard
>>337100664
If he moved abroad and came back as jeanne I would still call him juan
Despite James Arnold Taylor coming out and saying otherwise, it'll always be Tide.
It makes the most sense from a grammatical standpoint and also works with the whole water motif that the game has going on.
inb4
>English
>making sense
>>337100638
And in Kingdom Hearts 2 they say Tide-us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nacbhfnzZg0
Same time funnily enough, 0:21.
>>337100536
Why would I give a shit how it's pronounced in other countries when we're talking about the American localization?
>>337100073
Well what nationality are you?
In British and American English it's going to be Tide-us.
>>337100919
>we're talking about the American localization?
If we were talking about the localization the word of the voice actor would be enough.
>>337100664
Why are you so sure that the Tidus is the Murrikan Tidus with an s and not fantasy-Spanish Tidus with the s dropped or some shit?
Giauque is pronounced "Jock", not "Gee-ah-ooh-Q-eh" even if the name happens to look like that to your poorly educated and stubborn 'murrican eyes.
>>337100872
>Kingdom Hearts
who cares?
>>337100703
But the Japanese names only have R sounds so to stay faithful we have to copy that too.
Really though I'm hearing you, you think that the pronunciation should stay as close to the original Japanese name as possible, despite any name changes, But that's just restrictive for no true reason. At the end of the day the name is different, so why not embrace the change and use the pronunciation that fits most thematically when taking into account both the game and the series heritage.
>>337100835
>It makes the most sense from a grammatical standpoint
Most of the world, Europe included, would pronounce it "Teedus".
>works with the whole water motif that the game has going on
It officially has absolutely nothing to do with water.
>>337100919
Because that name is the same in all Western localizations, retard. It's not Murrica-exclusive.
I'm sorry but it killed me when I heard Lightning pronounce "Ruinga" on Dissidia Duodecim.
Square Enix's pronunciation bothers me in many situations.
>>337100760
Well you're just a total shitlord then check your naming privileges and stop appropriating Arthurian culture.
>>337101081
Because his name is Tidus? As in they spell it out Tidus and the S is there at the end. If you're trying to say that it would be a silent S then that would move further away from it being pronounced in the Japanese way since they always pronounce -su. Not sure why you think I'm American either but whatever lets you pretend you have "intelligence" on your side. I'm also sure literally no one would ever think to pronounce Giauque that weird way you typed out.
>>337101441
She says it normally, it's just a case of accent and emphasis. Thundaga is hilarious.
Their real names are:
γ¨γ’γͺγΉ
γγ£γΌγ
Earis (E'aris) and Teeda.
>>337101441
>>337101813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDurD0dQOa4
for the curious
ROO-EEN-GAH
THUNNNN-DA-GAAAAAA
>>337101708
>If you're trying to say that it would be a silent S then that would move further away from it being pronounced in the Japanese way since they always pronounce -su
It's a silent -us, because Japs are clueless when it comes to English spellings. It's based on an Okinawan word with a well known pronunciation, it's Tiida. Complain that English doesn't have a decent way to romanise it, maybe you could call him Teada if you really want.
Aerith and Teedus
KH2 Selphie is a fucking retard.
Teedus
>>337101110
Has as much weight as Dissidia, same name and essentially the same character.
>>337101954
>that fucking stage
Always had some of the silliest fights there.
>>337096289
Because the more western name would be john or max.
kwistis or keeztis? idk still best ff gurl
>the pronunciation chosen was retarded
>so we should just come up with a completely random one based on the way the name was incorrectly written!
Tide-us fags are the absolute worst. You acknowledge that the made-up-on-the-spot name was wrong because it sounds dumb, but you don't just default back to the original, instead choosing to use another wrong name. At least Teedus retards are going by "official" data.
Teeda rhymes with Yuuna. The images of the sun and moon are far more obvious than that of the moon and the tide. I can understand Teedus because idiots will eat up anything the American arm of SE shits out, But Tide-us is just plain dumb. You should know better.
>>337102080
Originally based on the Okinawan word for Sun, yeah, but it was romanised fine into Tidus. Even if you disagree there, it's still what they changed it to, and different languages can have different connotations. Tiida means Sun to the Japanese, but neither Tidus nor Tiida mean anything to us, but there's a golden opportunity with Tide to go above and beyond the original symbolism while still stemming from the Japanese name.
>>337102392
You misunderstood, I mean that in the version of the game in western territories he is called Tidus, not Tiida.
Aerith
Teedus
The use of katakana shows its a non japanese word. Even tho all katakana is pronounced in the same way as hiragana, its use shows the reader that the word isnt really suppose to sound japanese ( despite being spelled "bigu maku" they still kinda say " big mac " ). Anyone who clings to a "direct" katakana spelling is missing the whole point. Her name is Aeris. His name is Tidus. Pronouce it as foriegn sounding as you like.
>>337102603
>but it was romanised fine into Tidus
Clearly not, given most people have some issue with that.
> Tiida means Sun to the Japanese
No, it means Sun to the Okinawan. Think of it like calling him soleil in English. It's not something that's going to be apparent to everyone playing, and it doesn't really impact the story at all.
>>337103007
>The use of katakana shows its a non japanese word
You don't have a single clue what you're talking about.
>>337102569
Not very random if it's like an almost identical name and the whole game is based around water. It's not like everyone that first used Tide-us saw the name, found out about the story and decided to use it as some kind of protest. Saying one form of symbolism is objectively more obvious than another very common one is reaching pretty far but your entire post is full of hyperbole so that's not saying much.
On a different note, anyone else find it a little interesting that people that go with Aeris use Tide-us, and those that prefer Aerith also use Teedus?
>>337091497
Wakka pronounces Tidus' name correctly in Kingdom Hearts 1.
>>337102603
That's the problem with the tide-us versus tee-dus debate. Usually it's easy enough to just go with the rendering that carries more meaning, i.e. "Sefirosu" to "Sephiroth" or even "Earisu" to "Aerith" In other cases, where the romanization would just sound absurd to western ears("Mash" or "Balflear") it's simple enough to concede the name was changed for localization purposes.
With Tidus, it's both close enough to the original Tiida AND by insane coincidence happens to carry an independent meaning "tide" to go with the coastal theme and relation to the moon that it's hard to argue which is "definitive."The answer is that either is acceptable. Square obviously didn't care enough to read into the meaning until a bunch of autistic weeaboo fans decided it had to be teedus to be "truer" to the original intent
>>337101914
According to those moonrunes you posted, their real names are Earisu and Teiida. Why did you post them when you can't even fucking read them? The correct romanisation for Aeris is unclear but they're pronounced Air-is and Tee-duh in both Japanese and English.
Aeris and Tide-us because they don't sound awful to English speakers.
Aerith
Tide-us
Zy-dane
>>337103373
>Tei
Uh oh, looks like you're the one who can't read!
Please go find out what characters mean when they're small.
>>337103459
Don't forget Sweecoden and Ninja Gayden while you're at it.
>>337103373
It's a small γ£, retard. Read as γ¦γ ti because in Japanese there is no TI sound. Just like γγ is read JE and γγ is read SHA.
Why are you commenting when you can't even fucking read them?
>>337103459
>zy-dane
u wot m8
>>337103065
There's not really any arguments over how it should be spelled or it being mixed up with some other western style name so that's something at least. It's always stayed Tidus, just the pronunciation has varied, that kinda thing changes on normal words with accents and shit.
>It's not something that's going to be apparent to everyone playing, and it doesn't really impact the story at all.
I think it'd be apparent to most people but even if it wasn't it'd still be there and people might want to research such a thing. At least with Tide it's at the forefront, like Terra, Cloud, Squall and later Lightning. And hell it wouldn't be Final Fantasy without it's symbolism.
>>337091497
Aeris
Tidus
Ree-you
Or
Rye-u
>>337103072
>Saying one form of symbolism is objectively more obvious than another very common one is reaching pretty far
There is no water symbolism in his name, you doofus. The game as a whole has some watery themes because the setting is based on Okinawa, which is a subtropical island, but it has nothing to do with some particular character. Inventing some retarded headcanon when we actually have the creators' statement about what themes his character has is beyond reaching - it's plain delusional.
>On a different note, anyone else find it a little interesting that people that go with Aeris use Tide-us, and those that prefer Aerith also use Teedus?
People attached to debunked fanfiction like to cling to their fanfics, shockingly enough.
>>337103683
γγ γγ
>>337103065 thats literally what katakana is for dude.
In contrast to the hiragana syllabary, which is used for those Japanese language words and grammatical inflections which kanji does not cover, the katakana syllabary usage is quite similar to italics in English; specifically, it is used for transcription of foreign language words into Japanese and the writing of loan words (collectively gairaigo); for emphasis; to represent onomatopoeia; for technical and scientific terms; and for names of plants, animals, minerals, and often Japanese companies.
Ninja GAY DEN
RAI YOU
SAK UUURA
>>337091497
It's tide-us.
Zanarkand was surrounded by water and during the beginning of the game, it was flooded by sin.
It also matches FF8 and 7's naming of a natural occurence (cloud, squall, tide)
>>337091572
Have fun being wrong
>>337103740
It's ninja Gie-den
Dumb fuck
>>337103564
εΊζ₯γͺγγ
>>337103824
Have fun FUCK YOU
>>337097158
AWEY
TRUE TO KAISAR
WALEY
>>337103739
>for emphasis; to represent onomatopoeia;
Just highlighted 2 cases in your own quote that have absolutely nothing to do with non-Japanese words.
Also, γγ£γΌγ here, while technically not a Japanese word by western nomenclature, is an Okinawan word that can't actually be written or pronounced any other way, because of how the 2 languages interact.
>>337103358
There's also times when western names and concepts are translated into Japanese and used for names and stuff but yeah personally I think that the opportunity to have the western translated name have that much of a connection to the character without being a totally different name is a slam dunk as far as which one works best. At the end of the day people can and will use which they prefer and that's fine, but this is a thread about discussing which is more appropriate and why and that doesn't foster conversation, so fuck you my opinion is factually correct etc.
Makes me wonder though, why does no one bring up Fu-ri-o-ni-ru as being either Firion or Frioniel? I mean I know the answer but it seems like it'd set a precedent.
Threads like these always go to shit once the beginners from DJT invade and think they offer sage advice.
The Aerith vs Aeris argument is extra dumb because regardless of how it's spelled it's still prounounced "Aeris".
>>337103739
Okinawan IS a foreign language to the Japs. The Ryukyuan languages are not Japanese. They use Japanese writing and belong to the same language family, but Okinawan is still a foreign language. So no, you can't "pronouce it as foriegn sounding as you like" because the word has a very well defined pronunciation.
>Cefca
>>337100028
>>337100387
That's just the already butchered american pronunciation of the names.
If you look at the original pronunciation you will notice that English is fucking retarded in that aspect
>>337104025
It's obviously a subliminal message "free o'neil"
>>337104025
Firion for the Westerners, γγͺγͺγγΌγ« for the Japs.
>>337103716
The water symbolism from the name would come from it being pronounced Tide-us, if that wasn't painfully obvious enough already.
>some watery themes
You're either blind or didn't play the game, water and the ocean is prevalent through almost everything in the game. Tidus also happens to be the star of an underwater sport that gives the entire land hope, so there's a very direct connection of water to the character himself for you. If you just want to just grasp onto things at face value without thinking about it for yourself then that's on you I guess.
>>337103683
Roo
>>337104339
Gotta love how native English-speakers think that their pronunciation is somehow the standard, even though they're the only Indo-european language that mutilates the normal "i" with some weird-ass "aye" pronunciation.
>>337092536
the S is silent?
>>337104415
But then where did Frioniel come from and why do they translate it as that in the Japanese versions? Should that be what we're using? But Firion's what they used in western versions and sounds similar to Fire, which comes into line with the elemental naming theme and hints to his fiery hot blooded nature. It's just the more I think about it the more the two situations seem similar.
>>337104496
>the water symbolism in his name comes from my own asspull that the actual creators had nothing to do with
End yourself.
And yes, ocean is very prevalent in the game because Spira is literally a bunch of islands surrounded by the sea. Island cultures place big emphasis on water, news at 11.
γγ£γΌγ or γγ£γ, is the okinawan word for sun, matching the japanese word taiyou. It's read Teeda (for burgers). The localization Tidus should be pronounced Tie-dus (in burger language), but we all know that English contains so many fucking examples of exceptions, that it doesn't fucking matter what should and shouldn't be.
>>337096289
In mythology sun and moon are seen as equal opposite, tides and moon are not opposite or mythology based
>>337091734
Heartless Angel. It was always thus. He says Heartless Angel in the JP version of KHI, and in KHII he says it in both language versions.
The original attack from FF7 was also called Heartless Angel.
>>337096394
Sefiros/Sephiroth come from m
Jewish folklore, so did Tifareth which is where Tifa came from
For me, Tide-us will always be the protagonist of FFX, and Teedus will always be a string of hilarious shooped images and relation to posting desktops.
No time for love.
>>337100308
soft drink literally means any drink without alcohol
orange juice is a fucking soft drink
>>337105394
Soft drink is actually any carbonated drink that isn't alcoholic.
Juice isn't a soft drink.
>>337105449
sounds like you're right, i'd only heard retards using it incorrectly then
>>337105001
Frioniel is one of the many ways you could theoretically transliterate γγͺγͺγγΌγ« (incidentally, "Free O'Neil" would be equally valid). SE clearly picked Firion to be his official Western name, just like Lenna in FFV is indeed Lenna now and not "Reina", as the PS1-era translation would have it.
>>337105095
>spheres are made from pyrefly-infused water
>blitzball
>Sin takes the form of a whale-like underwater creature
>Several key cutscenes and locations feature water even in places where water wouldn't normally be
>Brotherhood
>There are specific underwater fight segments where it's relevant that certain party members have specific training to hold their breath for prolonged periods
>no water symbolism
>>337105095
>my own asspull which is how language actually works and happens to fit perfectly with the character and game
If the creators were as butt taut as you about it then his western name would have been Tiida or even Tiidus instead of leaving it the way it was, don't even act like it's a bigger thing than it is and there's some holy gospel that forbids it.
>a bunch of islands surrounded by the sea
And there's Sin, the oceanic monster that's the main antagonist and threat, and Blitzball the hope of the whole land, and spheres that are made of a magical liquid that appear just about everywhere in the game, underwater combat being a big thing and the main character's sword being made of water.
I could probably go on but you literally just stated that water is a central theme to the game, so I don't know why you're also arguing otherwise unless you're just a bit special.
>>337105626
That's what I'm getting at. Everyone has just accepted the fully westernized version, but people still feel Tidus should be as close to the Japanese version as possible when it's already been changed rather than seeing it from the more western side of things. Of course really no one argues about Firion/Frioniel because no one cares about FFII, but the parallels make it something to think about.
>>337091497
I prefer Tide-us
It's Tida
>>337104025
>At the end of the day people can and will use which they prefer
I'm guilty of this and it still bothers me
I'm French , and Dante is supposed to be pronounced Dan-Tuh. Yet i still can't stop myself from pronouncing it Dan-tay
γ¨γ’γͺγΉ and γγ£γΌγ are the only correct ways
>playing jrpgs in english
faggots who won't even learn the language bitching about the genre everywhere
>>337106561
Most countries on the "western side" would still pronounce it Teedus because they don't have the retarded pronunciation of "i"
Aerith
TeedusTina
>>337094717
>>Jumping Jack Flash
It's a Moon Bounce you fuck
How do you pronounce his name?
This is what happens when you don't force vowels to always make the same sound in your language. You literally can't misinterpret this shit in Japanese.
>>337107228
How is this pronounced, then?
ζ₯ζ¬
>>337107329
Nihon.
>>337107079
English is one of the widest spoken languages in the world, and is one of the biggest languages especially when it comes to video games. Also a lot of other languages would emphasise the "us" part to make something like Tee-doose or Tee-duse.
>>337107329
Nippon
>>337091497
I don't really care about Aeris/th that much.
For Tidus however it has got to be Tide-us because of the water theme.
>>337107329
Those are Chinese symbols and have multiple possible readings.
Hiragana and Katakana always represent a sound and you can't make a pronunciation error if you have them (if you're not retarded)
>>337108058
>Those are Chinese symbols and have multiple possible readings.
What are you, retarded?
They're either Japanese symbols with multiple readings, or Chinese symbols with a single reading.
In this case, the correct answer was, of course, RΓ¬bΔn.
>>337091497
i always said tidus. it can go either way, because in the original game his name was never even said because they didn't know which way to pronounce it. also tide-us reminds me of tides and water so it just fits better
>>337108225
>RΓ¬bΔn
did you say japan?
chinky here says the eastern island is called japan
>>337091709
kys
>>337108225
They're kanji and are from china.
The Japanese use them but thy're still Chinese
>>337110339
They're not Chinese. Plenty of the characters have been superseded in China, and the meanings are completely different.
There's this magical concept called loanwords, and it's how a language grows.
>>337110826
We're currently writing in Latin script, not English. it's the same with kanji.
Aeris
Tie-tus.
>>337094714
Boy, here in America we talk 'merican. If'n you dun like it you can giiiiiit outt.
>>337091549
You fuck off dumbass
>>337091497
If you speak English which i doubt you do, it's Aeris and Tide-us
Aeris and Tide-us
anybody who says otherwise is a fag
>>337108382
>because they didn't know which way to pronounce it
You can change the name of Tidus
>>337091572
People with this mentality literally refuse to admit that they were wrong about something.
Aerith has always been Aerith, Aeris was always a transliteration error.
Tidus has always been teedus, tide-us was just you mispronouncing it.
When I was younger I read "citadel" and pronounced it as "kitaydul"
When I heard it said, I thought that sounded stupid and my way was better.
Years later I can admit that I was a butthurt kid and I was pronouncing citadel like a retard.
Why can't you do the same?
>>337113627
>When I was younger I read "citadel" and pronounced it as "kitaydul"
you being a retard doesn't change that it is aeris and tide-us
>>337113712
It's the exact same scenario for Tidus.
Aeris has been long-proven a translation error. Everyone clinging to it simply can't admit it because they got attached to saying Aeris.
>>337113895
bullshit
>>337113627
So i've always wondered how Aeris and the reference to a greek deity somehow makes a th sound. thats the only one that really bothers me.
Jenova or Jennifer?
>>337114096
>Aeris and the reference to a greek deity
Are you... talking about Ares, Greek god of war?
How does that fit at all?
Meanwhile, Aerith, which exists in English in the Japanese manual of FFVII, is an anagram of "I, Earth"
And that fits her a lot more
>>337113712
https://youtu.be/DNU9f9EFrVk?t=353
Stop being retarded burger senpai
>>337091497
How about blade chest and bomb head?
>mfw brits pronounce Aerith as Erf
>>337115586
>Britbongs pronouncing anything
Have you heard them trying to pronounce Japanese? Oh my God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72Pgn4kFVZk
They even have someone pronounce it correctly immediately afterward to highlight how shit this guy is
At least when burgerkin fuck it up, it still sounds close.
>>337116940
I hate shit like this.
It can't be that fucking difficult to imitate a sound even if you have no fucking meaning what it means or don't understand the language
>>337091497
>Aerith everywhere in the coding and even the jap manual, everywhere except the default name screen in the english version
I know the original release has a lot of shitty engrish, but how does someone fuck up the character name screen out of nowhere?
>>337091497
>americunts
>english
Select one, only one.
>>337092803
Literally the only game where it was pronounced wrong was Kingdom Hearts 2.
>>337091578
The shill is strong in this one. I lold tho not gon lie senpai.
>>337117592
I don't think you understand just how shitty the localisation industry is, and has always been. Off the top of my head, I could probably name half a dozen titles with good localisation jobs, and half of those are just because the original writing was trash and the editing team took it upon themselves to fix it.
>>337119325
>"fixing" stuff during localization
>teedus thread
>only 2 teedus posted
>>337092362
nigga i aint watchin that nine minute video, gimme a quick rundown
>>337119790
Here's a basic example. The hack, Hideo Kojima, included a line of "this feels nostalgic" as Psycho Mantis dies. This is complete gibberish in Japanese, unless you read the supplemental works which reveal that Mantis was remembering his mother's feelings as she died in childbirth to protect him in a similar way to him helping snake as he dies.
This is fucking retarded on multiple levels, so the translator for MGS just turned around and changed it to "this feels good".
We're not talking adding shit like "you're not one of those gamergaters, are you?", we're talking about cleaning up a script that's a total mess. MGS2 was translated practically word-for-word at the behest of Konami, and suffered immensely for it, because Kojima can't write for shit.
>>337119790
Not him, but sometimes it's really for the best. SE for example has better English script writers than what you find in most Japanese popular media. Their modern localizations usually range from being equal to the Japanese original to vastly better. If it's done in cooperation with the original writers, the localization can be indeed superior.
>>337091497
I acknowledge Teedus is correct but Tide-us is way less stupid sounding and fits with the island theme.
>>337100387
Titus is Latin and pronounced Teetus. Midas is Greek and pronounced Meedus.
You giant faggot.
>>337110826
>They're not Chinese
The word Kanji literally means "Han Symbols/Letters" aka Chinese Symbols.
I pronounce her Ah-Eris. It's a german thing.
