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>*sword dashes behind u*
heh... nothing personnel kid
>*reflects your bullet back to you*
time to finish this little charade!!!
>*dragon blades and gains 200% mobility and one shots u*
heh... that was easy
>*cooldown resets and dashes away*
I just fuckin' hate this world. And the human worms feasting on its corpus. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred. And I always wanted to die violently. This is the time of vengeance and no life is worth saving. And I will put in the grave as many as I can. It's time for me to kill. And it's time for me to DIE DIE DIE
>>337084482
Did this need to be it's own thread? Could this not have just been a shitpost in one of the other twenty overwatch threads?
Do you know how the catalog works? I can tell you how it works if you want.
>>337084581
this is a roleplay thread actually
psssh...nothin personnel...kid... teleports behind you DIE! DIE! DIE... starts spinning around with dual shotgun, killing everyone heh...that was easy... turns into a ghost and soars away
>Someone is salty they got rekt playing as a fatass str character
>>337084935
*combat rolls behind you*
heh... nothing personnel kid
*fans the hammer*
>>337084581
This.
What a bunch of faggots.
>>337084482
>[insert character who you recently got raped by in a public game.]
[Insert edgy text to make yourself feel better about probably getting destroyed by some kid who's parents pay for his blizzard games.]
Rinse and repeat.
>DIE DI-AAUUUGH
>>337085925
fuck you reaper stop shooting me
>>337084482
>One shots
lol
>>337084864
>>337085041
Kek
>>337085456
Soulsfag go away
>>337086084
Kekity
Now that the open beta is ending, lets get a vote on everyones thoughts for Overwatch.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10174128
and
http://www.strawpoll.me/10174140
HELDEN STERBEN-aigh.
It's High Noon
>>337086084
dude didnt you read he reflected your bullet back to you first leaving u at below 75 hp
Boop boop boop BEEP boop BEEP
>>337084482
You sound like a bigger retard than the character you're trying to make sound retarded.
私の霊龍を用心!!!!
>tfw you put up reflection and 3 people just die in front of you
>>337086734
wtf why are ppl allowed to make fun of reaper but not genji is it because 4chan are weebs and unironically like collecting katanas and saying shit irl like "a real samurai carries two swords...." XDDDD dD dd ddD DD d
>playing Genji
>just bought storm drum
>pop monarch blessing and absorb raellyns snipe
>using cocoon to neuter enemy clunk explode
Genji MVP
>>337086856
But genji is not edgy in personality or backstory. People make fun of Reaper because he says stuff like death comes, I come from the shadows and die die die.
>>337086024
I honestly think that if they had the same abilities but didn't name him reaper or give him edgy clothing or an edgy voice he'd be much more popular of a hero than he already is.
He's okay to play but god damn I refuse to play that 13 year old tier trash.
genji is sort of the passive choice isn't he? He can't do a lot until his ult is up except throw stars.
What is the appeal?
>>337087234
he can headshot with them and reflect bastions minigun /mccgrees fan the the hammer
>>337087234
He's a cool ninja
>capture on Ilios
>whole team goes Genji except for one 76
>I'm green, some other guys have skins too
>play of the game: me getting 5 kills with dragon blade and stars
FUCKING A GENJI
>>337087234
The stars do really good damage.
You just need to not be shit at aiming. Or be far away and spam them until you hit something.
Basically be good at the video game
>>337087234
Stars do alot more DMG than youd expect.
>yfw oh let’s break it down!!!
>>337087234
If you can sneak up on a big herd of damaged people (i.e. right beside an objective), you can potentially wipe them all with reset dashes and a few wide throws.
Also, reflecting ults/sniper shots/Bastion/turrets is hilarious.
how do you climb walls as genji?
>>337087508
Just hold the jump button
>>337087423
sound barriered reinhardt at 50 hp just hammers u down :'( fuck lucio
>>337087508
... are you serious?
>>337087508
press spacebar and w towards a wall
>>337086386
kinda surprised that a lot of /v/ people are going to buy the game.
>>337087810
No they're not you faggot. That's from /vg/ you bitch.
>>337087234
He is a less effective Tracer that can reach more places.
Tracer has really good damage and can flank squishies really well, but there are lots of sniping areas that she just can't get to because she has no vertical movement beyond jumping.
Genji can take out squishies, but it takes more effort, better aim and more ability use for damage, but he can flank better than her with his wall climb and double jump, as well as get up to some places that tracer can't.
>>337086856
genji takes skill to use
>>337087921
it was posted ITT you fucking monoloid potato
>>337087921
it's not, i made the poll for this genji thread
unless someone posted it there
>>337087810
whats so surprising anon? Are you coming to the realisation that shitposters are extremely vocal at shitting up /v/ while sompe of us generally like vidya?
>>337088047
>You can't repost links
Kill yourself please;^)
>>337088179
im surprised because /v/ is usually more depressing yes
>>337088047
>monoloid can't right mongoloid
You're the mongoloid here for believing that was 1st posted here.
>>337088225
>REEEEEEEEE you took this from /vg/ faggot
>was posted ITT
>damage control intensifies
>tfw for some reason every fucking time you play Genji you forget to use reflect
I have no idea why I'm so retarded
heh this will be easy... *runs at your whole team* *shoots ur mercy* IVE GOT YOU ON MY SIGHTS *kills everyone* heh.. im getting to old for this...
>>337088316
>cant write write
this is ironic write?
>>337088316
it's easy enough to tell. The /vg/ thread will have a timestamp if it was posted there.
Just saying you should post proof before crusading unless you talked to the pope first.
>>337088316
never said it was posted here first though did I. Just stating the fact that trigger nigger got booty blasted because some people are buying a game he doesnt like.
He an autistic faggot. There is no excuse for his faggotry. If he doesnt like it why is he even ITT?
>>337088414
That's the joke you massive faggot
>>337088335
takes time to learn to use passives constantly
>>337088454
>Just saying you should post proof
Nope. You should.
>>337088512
>fucks up
>t..th..thats the joke
>>337088494
>He an autistic
You sure that isn't you?
>>337088341
no its
*runs at your whole team taking fire*
heh... nothing personnel kiddo...
*drops down biotic field and heals all incoming damage*
time to end this little charade!
*IVE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS and whittles you down to half HP*
*360 noscope shoots concussive blast that insta kills you and 3 other people*
heh... im getting too old for this *sprints away*
>>337087610
>spacebar and w
uhh, I'm playing on console you pleb.
>>337088593
alright
checked current /vg/ thread
one poll found.
>>337088673
nah its you son. I dont go into threads about things I dont enjoy to shitpost.
you do you anon
>>337088768
(pleb)
>>337088801
fucking /vg/ should be changed to /wg/ waifu general.
>>337088417
>special ability is *teleports behind u*
>one of reapers emotes is *claps while emerging from the shadows*
Did Blizzard intend for him to be a joke?
>>337088872
so true it hurts
>>337088494
>He an autistic faggot.
>He an
>>337086386
I don't understand the second poll. Should I penalize the game for shit-tier waifus? Because Mei alone is 10/10 worthy but some of the others I wouldn't even give the time of day to...
was anyone else disapointed by overwatch?
>ults that you cannot react to, like reinhardts smash or zaryas blackhole
>actual aimbot and wallhacks in the game
>widowmaker doesnt get aimpunched when she gets shot; she always has a perfect shot
*looks up at you from under the brim of my hat* well lookie what we have here... *takes a drag of my cigar as I launch a flashbang* looks like this cattle needs some rustlin! *rolls behind you and then fans the hammer* hehehe...it ain't even noon yet! *rides into the sunset*
*takes a full mag of tracer bullets*
heh... that tickles...
*throws hook*
where do ya think you're goin, girlie?
*shotgun blast to the face*
heh.. nothing personnel
>>337088962
the poll is asking if you can fap to anything in overwatch and actually enjoyed it i think
>>337084556
>corpus
I don't know if it's a meme or people never hearing the word carcass before.
>>337089016
kek
>>337088940
>when youre so booty blasted you can only point out grammatical errors
sorry if you got triggered anonkun
>>337089048
10/10 then I guess. I just finished fapping to Mei actually.For the 3rd time today.It's only 5pm.
>>337089074
>people never hearing the word carcass
>>337088494
>He an autistic faggot
Oh the Irony.
JUST-
>Frozen
>Forced to sit there and watch your death as she shoots you in the face
Is there anyone more ruthless than Mei?
>>337087206
imagine if he was some anthropomorphic goofball shouting zany one-liners instead
>>337089227no____________________
>>337089193
>>337088940
is this what happens when you get fanny flustered?
>>337089227
runs in front of bastion shooting from far away and entire enemy team
heh... nothing personnel kid...
*DONG ZHAO BU SHI ZHO and Ice blocks all incoming damage*
*freezes everyone*
Heh... time to end this little charade
*ice walls off bastion and headshots everyone to death*
heh... that was easy...
*team gets killed by bastion anyways*
>>337089227
>freeze someone
>line up an icicle
>kill them
>A-Mei-zing!
*runs up behind u*
"Beep boop beep boop"
*turns into a fucking turret*
*penetrates you with 100 bullets in mere seconds*
"Beep boop"
*turns into a tank and drives away
>>337089719
*flies above you*
"Nothing personnel kid"
>not using Japanese voices
Shine... shine! Shine!!! >>> DIE DIE DIE EDGLEORD XDD
>>337088768
Kill yourself then.
>>337089929
how do you turn on Japanese voices?
>>337088962
My dick can't handle this game... I'm overwhelmed by the amount of jackoff material Overwatch has supplied me with.
>>337088917
>Named Reaper
>skull + black trenchcoat outfit
>literally throws his guns away and pulls out new ones to reload
>yells DIE DIE DIE during his ult
yes
>>337087234
I pick him everytime on attack just in case there's a bastion.
>>337084482
>successfully deflect reapers ult
>successfully defelct pharas ult
>deflect rat boy nades back at him
All in one fucking game. No greater feeling than gitting gud with Genji
>>337090002
open battlenet
settings
game settings
scroll down to Overwatch
japanese setting is pic related
takes a few minutes to install all the new voice lines.
>>337087234
his mobility along with no damage fall-off makes him a good anti-sniper/turret hero
his entire job on the team is to basically be even more annoying tracer
fun/10
>Bastion + Mercy camping last point
>Go Tracer and rekt their shit from behind
>They call me a shitter
>use reflect vs widowmaker shooting at me
>headshot her
>mfw
>>337090169
>reflect roadhog's ult
>sitll die because not only does his ult last longer than the reflect, it can still do damage to you and it doesn't do enough damage to kill him
>>337090045
His reload will always make me laugh.
>>337084482
YO DI WOES TEZEN.
Is the beta over? I didn't try to get on today because I was working on a memo.
>>337090380
>Be Genji
>Insta kill bastion with reflect
They just can't resist to mash left click at anything
>>337090380
>play D.Va
>team attempts to flank
>walk right into Bastion's line of sight and opo Defensive Matrix
>he empties his gun into my indestructible shield even as teammates kill him
Best part is I was so far away, I couldn't have attacked him if I tried.
>>337089074
I copy/pasted it since I'm a lazy fuck. Didn't notice it said corpus.
>Join match
>All Bastions
>Win with ease
Yeah man, so balanced. Just pick his counter its easy.
>>337090598
it's got another 12ish hours to go.
>>337090647
Praise Jesus. Thanks hombre.
>>337090637
>all bastions
>your group all counterpicks genji
lel dead bastions
Honestly, the biggest turn off on Overwatch is the price.
40 bucks is just waaaaaaaaay to much for that little game.
10~25 € would have been an okay price.
>turn on japanese voices
>excited get in game
>"CHING CHONG LING WING"
>leave game and turn english back on
Japanese should just stay anime. That was horrific to listen to.
>>337090598
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20743735540
http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/pdt
Yes.
>>337088702
I wish he was this good
>>337090802
By yes I mean the beta is still up.
>>337090802
10am and 10pm are two different things, dipshit
And so are May 9th and May 10th for that matter.
>>337090880
>>337090869
Well now I feel like the retard
>>337087371
I've done that a couple of times, a mate and I kept spaming "ALL GENJI" in chat until they did.
>>337090948
No worries I just copy and pasted the same reply that I posted in another thread. Should have changed it to no but too quick to post.
>>337090785
shit taste
Has anyone played custom match? I want to learn wallriding better and play with ults in a setting outside of the shitty training area. I see I can do a bot match and tweak the ult charge, but I can't find out where to put a password. Does anyone know if you can? Or if it's full of bots, can another person join and kick the bots? I obviously just want to do this shit solo
>>337089227
why does she look like a fucking sim?
>>337090780
Fuck I want those shoes.
>>337090785
>Turn on japanese voices
>Surprised when the voices are in japanese
What that fuck did you think was going to happen
>>337091112
It has ups and downs, McCree has to sound like a cowboy for instance.
>>337090785
>>337091394
Wait you can turn on Japanese voices?
Power rankings
1. Tracer
2. Road Hog
3. Bastion
4. Reinhardt
5. Widow maker
6. Mercy (only cause she cant kill anything)
>>337091394
Thought the waifu baits would sound like my japanese animes. The voice acting sounds b-rated to hell.
>"McNerf"
>His flashbang has the radius of a atom bomb
>bastion activates tank mode
>yfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOnOrEpl8K8
>>337089923
*gets shot down trying to start ult*
>>337089929
oh boy, can't wait to use voices that require me to stare at the bottom of the screen at all times in an FPS.
Eat shit and die
>>337092853
why would you stare at the bottom of the screen, are you retarded
>>337090486
>Reflect one of Junkrat's nade and kill him
>>337092853
>voices that require me to stare at the bottom of the screen at all times in an FPS.
what did he mean by this?
>>337093128
>>337093265
It means it's too embarrassing to watch you weebs.
>>337091394
>using dubs
Their Japanese VA dub is even worse than English VA dub for Japanese games. Hanzo, D.Va and Genji are the only Heroes that have good Jap VA's, the rest sound like shit in Japanese.
>>337090518
It's honestly my favorite thing about him
>>337084482
I highly enjoyed that, OP
>>337093550
You're pretty retarded, desu
>>337087234
literally the only use genji has is stopping turret camping
otherwise he's fodder
>>337093550
Tfw the english VA is better than the japanese speaking their own language
>YUU KA WAKKA TAKKA WOW
>YO RI WOE TEZZEN
>>337093707
he's actually one of the best finishers in the game because he has zero fall-off and can be fucking anywhere pretty quick
>>337093550
>implying DROPPU ZA BEATO isn't the fucking greatest
>>337093707
>garbage genji the post
Land your shurikens and abuse the one shot reset pleb
![arnold-tsang-junkrat-presskit[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HY23xnK.jpg "arnold-tsang-junkrat-presskit[1]")
Who /Junkrat/ here?
>>337093707
Considering current camping is the meta right now. Thats huge.
>>337093627
I don't play Western games with shitty Jap dubs
So it looks like you're the retarded one here.
>>337093843
Stop memeing kiddo, you know damn well Lucio's japanese VA is literally ear grating.
>>337093779
>for the english dub they hired actual Japanese VA's for the Super Shimada Bros.
>they used different people for the jap dubs
But...why?
>>337093843
>playing Lúcio with Japanese voice
Get the fuck away from me cretin
>playing as Tracer
>being chased by an enemy down a narrow alleyway
>use rewind ability to appear behind them
>D'YA EVAH GET THAT FEELING OF DEJA VU?
I'm really going to miss this when the Beta ends. I'm going to be playing tf2 and being disappointed when I can't zip around fast and rewind time.
>>337093851
I don't ever use genji because I know he's shit
If I see a genji on my team, I know we're going to lose. Every genji I encounter is an easy kill.
>>337093854
here anon
I'm bracing for nerfs, thou.
>>337093995
>he's shit
He's not. He just isn't as hilariously broken as some of the other characters.
>>337084482
RYUUJIN NO KEOKU NE
>>337087810
>giving blizzard money
>EVER
>>337093854
Mah nigga.
>>337094048
>RYUUJIN NO KEOKU NE
What did he mean by this?
>>337093550
>McCree
>Reinhardt
>Roadhog
>Reaper
>Hanzo
>Genji
>D.Va
>Torbjorn (MORTAN COAAAHHHH)
all way better in Japanese. the only one I really miss is Lucio's "let's break it DOWN"
>>337087234
it's 28 damager per star, 56 on a headshot. If you can aim, he does amazing damage. he also has some of the best mobility in the game, reflect and an ult that can do a lot of damage in a short time.
But he is probably one of the hardest to play properly, because his left click can be pretty hard to consistently hit thanks to the delay between stars.
>>337094142
>no Widowmaker
It's like you don't even ara ara~
>>337086965
what did I just read
>be genji
>play the eastiest class in the game so I can tell my 4chan friends how good I am at clicking one button
>>337094142
Your taste is absolute dogshit
>>337094171
French Widowmaker > any other voice
>>337084482
>>337084864
I enjoy playing these two characters, but I feel genuine embarrassment when I do. One is a weebshit fantasy and the other is an Edge Maverick wet dream. I feel like Reaper is meant to be satirical, but they didn't quite push it far enough. However it seems like the devs actually think Genji is a cool character and he isn't meant to be a joke at all, which is cringeworthy on it's own.
>>337094170
he also has quite a few different ways of attacking compared to most people in the game and you need to know which one to use at the right time
like when to go for a close range primary fire or try a fan of starts, when to dash strike, how to ult etc. Compared to most people like Tracer or Reaper which is just hold down M1 and wait for them to fall down.
>>337094282
That's not how you spell Bastion.
>Hear everyone say Bastion is OP
>Friends want to defend a point with a 5 bastion team (we were 5 premade)
>We get raped to fuck and back by a genji and a tracer
I KNOW I'm not good at the game, but still. Bastion doesn't seem OP at all. It's annoying when he's behind a Reinhard wall though.
>>337088980
>huff gas
>>337094142
>Reinhardt
>Roadhog
>Reaper
>Torbjorn
>all way better in Japanese
(You)
>>337094356
What's so cringe about Genji? Cyber ninja type characters have been in video games for as long as I can remember.
>>337094292
>Your taste is absolute dogshit
amazing post, thanks for your contribution.
enjoy "it's hahh nuun, it's hahh nuun", "NERF THIS XD", and "I just fucking hate this rotten world" Reaper, btw
>>337094462
and hearing the exact same shit in a language you very most likely don't even understand is so much better right
>>337092853
Two sample from the japanese voices if someone is interested but not autistic enough to play the game japanese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T2Xy559BD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvHOviRpm8
>>337094584
it's delivered better and sounds cooler. I guess plebs like you can't tell the difference
>Genji puts up his reflect and looks right at me
>wait a couple seconds
>headshot him
>>337094367
same character
>>337094652
>it's delivered better and sounds cooler
It's literally neither of those things.
>I guess plebs like you can't tell the difference
Oh the irony. You're a complete pleb.
>>337086965
I usually play the Genji Lane wreck pusher build with the ability to turn their bots into flybots of my own and healing shots and that stuff. It requires two teammates who can keep the enemy tean busy though. But with a good team I can push all the turrets down super fast with that build.
The space butterfly watches over you.
>>337094652
it's not delivered better and you only think it sounds cooler because it reminds you of those japanese cartoons you love jerking off too because you've never felt the loving touch of a woman before now fuck off back to /a/ already
>>337094619
>1st video
>3:00 minute mark
>Bastion used to have a 1000 shield
thank fuck that's not in the game any more
>>337094462
Your contribution to this thraed is sharing that you literally eat dog shit.
There's no point reasoning with you, you're a functionally retarded mongrel who thinks eating actual feces is better than regular edible food.
Reaper is no less of a cringeworthy edgelord in Japanese btw. But enjoy your "MORTAN COAAAHHHH" "DROPPU ZA BEATO" and other stilted and akward japanese dialogue since Blizzard went with less-than-budget tier Japanese VAs.
I haven't gotten POTG in a while but i'm glad the majority of the POTGs haven't been shit and actual worthy of POTG.
>>337094652
>>337094462
I don't like using the term, but you're a complete fucking weeaboo.
>>337094659
Is it me or is headshotting in this game difficult in comparison toTF2? I was really good at sniper then, now I'm only doing above average in Overwatch
>>337094130
>GIVE THEM THE GREEN DRAGON DICK
So who was everyone's favorite characters to plays as?
I usually go for Reinhardt or Symmetra with Mercy and Pharah as back ups if the need arises.
>>337094009
Don't worry, Junrkat's D-tier he won't be getting any nerfs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cMXTauW6hHrqrCyiUYf-eFoKTX8g8CspAUru3ZFlrIo/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=63027879
>>337094412
Bastion is the pubstomp character. He can easily seem OP when he's supported by a proper team with shielding reinhardts, mercy and other players watching his flanks.
>>337094009
Most people who play him are baddies, so I don't think he'll be nerfed.
>tfw singlehandedly stopped 6-man pushed on payload multiple times by lobbing grenades around corners or from behind cover and bouncing them off walls
>most junkrat players just try to fight on the front lines and get instarekt by the enemy assault or tank heroes until they get their ult and kill a single person with it
>>337094957
>Junkrat
D tier
Fucking what mate he can easily get highest damage out put in the game
>my face I genuinely didn't know you could run up walls at Hanzo too until I saw someone do it
>>337094809
he also couldn't rotate 360 degrees and could only self heal in turret mode
Genji is fun as hell but I suck complete dicks with him. I'm pretty much carried by the fact I flank and can reflect Bastions. Can barely aim shurikens for shit and lose my bearings when trying to melee.
>>337093265
>>337093128
S U B T I T L E S
>>337094895
There are a lot of huge characters with little heads and many characters with super fast movement options so yeah, I'd say it's a little harder.
>>337089929
I like how Hanzo and Genji currently are. Makes it sound cooler when they go full japanese on their Ultimates.
>>337095154
No it sounds like stereotypical anime shouts. If Blizzard wants to borrow from other cultures they should handle it with dignity.
>>337094171
>Widowmaker doing Ara Ara
>>337094957
When people claim that heroes like Junkrat are D tier that just confirms that the Overwatch community really is fucking retarded.
I'm constantly amazed at how utterly stupid people that play Overwatch are.
Don't know why, but playing Mercy actually makes me enjoy being a healer.
>>337095298
>Cartoony game should be serious and not cartoony and stereotypical at all
>with characters like fucking McCree, Genji, Hanzo, Soldier 76, Dorf
Kill yourself
but genji is a honorable person hanzo is the edgy evil man
>>337089929
Japanese or english, both are shit, so who cares?
Current Blizzard is terrible at voiceacting and script writing.
>>337095298
you...you think the Ultimate call-outs in general aren't supposed to be anime shouts?
Are we playing the same fucking game
>>337087234
RYUJIN NO KEIO KURE!!!!
>>337094957
>Roadhog that low
>>337095504
Actually I really like 76's VA. Especially how his voice gets all oddly demonic when he ults or gets a killstreak
>>337095532
i mean with roadhog you feed the enemy team ult and zarya winston reinhardt sheilds block his hook
>>337095572
tapping into that bloodthirsty presence from his old battlefield days
ok a scrub question here, I have seen people say that Pharah + Mercy is really good, why? what makes the combo so good? wouldnt she work better with someone like zarya?
>>337095402
I had the same feeling in TF2, playing a medic was really fun.
But then I started playing with my GF and she refused to play anything else, so I had to play pyro.
Mercy unfortunately isn't different in that regard, making healers fun means others want to play them, means I always end up having to play Roadhog or some shit.
I just want to support...
I keep reliving this in overwatch
make it stop
>>337095656
not really. zarya doesn't do as much damage. plus phara gets height mobility can drag along mercy.
>>337095656
Becuase bitch niggs try to get that Ulti fast. With Ohara shooting all the time and Mercy healing her ass soshe doesnt die every time she can build that meter.
>>337095656
Pharah has verticality and splash damage. With a buff from Mercy she becomes death from above.
So was anyone else shocked when they started playing to find out that the charge % on Ults stays even after you died?
>>337095506
I personally think that their native languages should come out more during stressful situations, like when they're taking heavy damage, they die, they lose the match or whatever.
That said I don't even like that every single hero has this one line they literally scream when they do their ultimate.
Heck I don't even like this current ultimate implementation AT ALL and think it just makes the game play way worse.
I understand why they made them like this (to please the human trash players) but why must the game suffer?
>>337095695
Press E
>>337090114
this
Nothing beats a good interrupted ult
http://www.strawpoll.me/10174477
>>337095695
only use high noon if there's a few people left alive on the other team or if they are heavily distracted by something else
>>337095402
best mercy skin?
>>337095767
>No "I choose you Spirit Dragon" voice line for the ultimate
I'm suprised there isn't an option that allows you to change their shout.
>>337094171
You should try playing with the Japanese audio. In my opinion, Mercy has the most ara ara~ of all the voice actresses. When I play her in Japanese I just spam the Acknowledged command because the way she says wakarimashita makes my dick diamonds
>>337095572
76 is decent at best and is one of the "better" voices. Same with Roadhog.
But it blows my mind how such a big company can be so utterly shit at voicework, especially since they used to be good.
>>337095670
do you wear a skirt and also let men fuck you in the ass? quit playing the bitch classes
>>337095783
>my face respawned and rushing with McCreed to the area
>Hanzo trying to keep contesting the area
>3 from the Enemy team are there
>neak up on them and High Noon on them
>Kill all three
>Hanzo gets the PotG
>I'm the secret Hero on it because I'm in Hanzo's field of vision High Nooning them the fuck out
>>337095853
it's because the shouts are tells for the teams. They shouldn't different depending on whether the ult was used by an ally or enemy, so you know whether it's time to push or hit cover. Allowing too many customizations would really fuck with people, although though there are some different ones. Hanzo's line is changed if he's got the Lone Wolf or Okami skin
>>337095815
this is better
>>337095402
My Aryan Bruh
I like both Mercy and Lucio, Mercy for offense, Lucio for Defense.
Poo/Loo and THE IRE ASS can leave
>>337095853
There shouldn't even be a shout. You should be able to tell from sublte sounds if you're in close prozimity alone.
For example Junkrat doesn't need to scream FIRE IN THE HOLE, instead just make it into a quiet giggle and the only thing else you can hear is him revving the motor on the tire and NOT globally by everyone, even the enemy team.
>>337096070
>Get this skin out of my third loot box
Based blizzard
>>337095695
>>337095783
It's not enough that they made it broadcast in such a loud voice, they also have to make your character glow like the fucking sun when using HIGH NOON
>>337095815
>>337096070
Not literal Valkyrie master race
Do you even commend souls to Valhalla?!
>>337095572
"I'm not a young man anymore"
What the fuck does it even means?
>>337096115
I hope you like playing as a semen demon for cocks
>>337096070
Imp is good but I use the Verdant skin. I wanted imp for a long time, but once I had gotten it I had already fallen deeply in love with Verdant. It's the thinking man's Mercy skin.
>>337096086
Come on mang, Symmetra is way too much fun.
>Place sentry turrets near healthpacks to kill low-health enemies
>Ambush enemy team from behind while they're distracted and wipe them with W+M1
>Clutch teleports
She's alright, but I think she leans more defensive than support. Then again, the shields and teleports are pretty damn supportive... but so is Zarya's shielding so take that as you will.
As somebody who has never really been into FPS games overwatch is surprisingly fun, but holy hell am i bad
>>337095920
they don't have to try anymore, so they don't. add on top of that the usual corporate super sterile safe design and there you go.
There seem to actually be contextual voice liens, bu they clearly chose some of the least common situations and over prioritize certain one s(fucking widow on King's row, shut up already)
D.va seems to say "no ones beating my high score" if you blow up all the arcade machiens int he Hollywood attack spawn though
>>337096158
That he is not a young man anymore.
>>337096158
That his aim sucks and he needs an aimbot to make up for his age.
>>337096138
Reanimating the dead so that they fight for your cause?
seems more like the purview of a demon than a valkyrie, honestly
>>337095920
Couldn't they fucking hire a Russian VA to voice Zarya? What the fuck.
>>337096158
hes old man nowmore
>>337096112
Some ults would be way, way, way too powerful if there was no way to know they were coming. Tire, high noon, tank mode etc.
The thing is, even with the obvious announcement to the enemy team, you can still do great things with those ults. It's a matter of knowing the right time to use it.
>played every day for 1-2 hours since beta started up
>still can't decide if I want to buy it or not
anyone in the same boat? it feels like a F2P game and $40 for it is a bit absurd, will all the maps and shit post release be free? (It's blizzard so i'd bet not)
>>337095978
Man I'm so sick of that stupid meme. Means every thread about MMOs and most threads about overwatch get derailed by gay ERP nonsense.
>>337094412
I started focusing on Zenyatta and he was fun once I got the hang of it but hard to rack up kills. Then I unlocked the comfy woodbot skin for Bastion so decided to give him a go. Mowing down fools became so much easier. I know he's supposed to be defensive but I enjoy charging in when enemies aren't expecting and and fucking them up in turret mode. It's definitely possible to rain hell on people as him but so many characters have counters to Bastions moveset.
>>337096016
They already do sort of change depending on whose team the character is on. if both sides have mercy the enemy mercy will use the not english ult sound and the ally team uses the English one. same with Hanzo's ult, you can actually notice it if you died during the ult during the death cam because it'll be english in the killcam.
>>337096162
But of course, why else would you play her
>>337096342
Was in the same boat. After gitting gud and experiencing the skill ceiling for myself i'm buying it.
Its actually so fun when you get the mechanics down into muscle memory
>>337096284
A Valkyrie literally takes the fallen of the Battlefield and leads them to Valhalla.
>your face Overwatch is Valhalla and the Heros are preparing for Ragnarok honing their skills in retarded games
>play of the match
>90% of the time its Bastion lmbing, Junkrats wheel of doom or Mccrees HIGH NOON
>>337096284
>HEROES
>NEVER
>DIE
>>337096453
Who the fuck cares? POTG is meaningless.
>>337095621
You also feed your own mercy ults, constantly
>Tell my roadhog to never chug
>Heal him permanently like some life giving leech
>Res allies every 20 seconds or so
Game winning stuff
>>337087810
Same. I just don't think the game has any lasting appeal.
>>337096367
yeah remember guys this is a roleplaying thread though
it was a hologram
>>337096251
Oh, makes sense now.
>>337096450
yeah but her Ultimate doesn't usher them to Valhalla it brings them back to life
>>337096342
Wait. this is a blizzard game and as shit as blizzard is now, they do at least stick by' their games for longer periods, and are willing to throw out things and redo stuff if it failed hard enough 9D3) even as much fo a forgotten turd as HoTS is, they still keep going and work on. You can afford to wait a bit for them to add more stuff.
>>337096187
>Place sentry turrets near healthpacks to kill low-health enemies
That's actually a really fun idea, I'll have to do that the next time I play her.
Honestly I didn't like Symmetra much because she felt incredibly un-interactive. That said, a teleporter from your spawn to the objective honestly felt like it gave my team a free win the last time I did play her.
So she's powerful, just kinda' boring.
>>337096453
That Feel When you get a Mercy PotG with a double pistol finisher into triple Resurrect to push the limo into the final checkpoint
>>337096453
My dream is to get PoTG asMei
I've managed to trap people in rooms with me, freeze and kill 3 people in a few seconds and avoid high noon/dragon/whatever with ice block, but the PoTG always goes to hanzo, bastion, high noon or rat wheel
>>337096453
>5% of the time it is something completely retarded and the other 5% it is comedy gold backfiring like genji reflecting the entire teams attacks or lucio sound punching 3 players off a cliff
>>337096437
I'm not saying it's not fun, it just feels like it'd get old quick.
There is what, three game modes? and none of them really play any differently, and they're always the same mode on the same map, I'm already bored of the ones we have
also, there is no sort of actual progression with the characters. It's all cosmetics. I want different weapons to use for different playstyles with a character ala TF2.
That right there would add alot of variety, but it feels like blizz is only concerned with making the game as casual babby friendly and as accessible as possible, so I doubt that will ever happen.
>>337094957
great useless info you fucking retard.
>>337096215
>they don't have to try anymore
It really shows, they're selling on their name alone now even though the quality is no longer there.
Diablo 3 is the perfect example.
>>337096290
>Couldn't they fucking hire a Russian VA to voice Zarya? What the fuck.
You don't even need to hire a russian, just someone that actually sounds russian. Or fuck don't giver her a thick russian accent at all and focus on making the voiceacting great instead.
>>337096309
>Some ults would be way, way, way too powerful if there was no way to know they were coming. Tire, high noon, tank mode etc.
I already told you that you can hear them from the sound of the tire revving, the ennio morricone sound or whatever.
But I think that they should just go back to the drawing board entirely with the ultimates because they're fucking stupid.
>>337096587
>>337096609
Who the fuck cares? POTG is meaningless.
Also, it's really easy to get as Mei.
>>337096553
Well, don't expect it to work more than a few times. I have that problem with her too, feels like once I've shielded everyone and laid turrets all over the place I have nothing to do but spam energy balls at a choke point until they push through.
Still, teleporter is way too valuable
>>337096342
$40 too much for this game
In a world where TF2 isnt a thing i'd feel better about paying $40 for this
Content feels lacking
>>337096665
Are you serious? I'm constantly trying to get better and its fun each time for me.
Its been awhile since i've actually wanted to git gud.
>>337096453
POTG is completely fucked because of ultimates.
Remove ultimates and POTG quality would already improve massively.
Hardest character to get POTG as?
>>337096818
If not for ultimates Bastion would be the only one getting it 95% of the time just lmbing in turret mode.
>>337096818
not really. wow another bastion turret killing spree. woah that widowmaker just killed 2 people!!! how can this be happening!?!?!?!
>when you main d.va
>>337096665
>on the same map
What? I've played a ton for two days now and I'm still seeing totally new maps, there must be like 12 of them
>>337096883
Ape monkey of free welfare
>all these anons who can't afford 40 bucks
it's two fucking restaurant visits to skip that you didn't need anyhow.
next you fucks are gonna tell me you don't tip
>>337096553
her problem is she isn't a character, she's the stuff that they removed from Torb so he wouldn't be too 'complex' with a body strapped on to it. she herself isn't useful, her ult and the shield are. her guns nice but she doesn't want to firefight.
she's also not a godamn support, she's a builder shoved in the support category because she has a teleporter. I honestly wish they'd drop her LM ramp gun, replace that with a mercy style skill that overcharges the Shield she put on people, and let her keep the RM for attacking. as is onc she's placed the 6 turrets, and pressed e on everyone, she has 'nothing' to do until her ult's ready unless a lot of stupid people walk near her or stand still not noticing a giant slow moving orb.
>>337096924
Don't forget Torbjorn hitting his turret for 5 seconds
>>337094356
Dude.
Genji is a cyborg ninja.
A fucking cyborg. Ninja.
That's like distilled, concentrated cool, don't be a faggot.
>>337096950
winston swing attack in ult only sends people flying but barely does damage
who the fuck though this was a good idea
>>337094457
>>337097040
even borderlands had the sense to mock that shit
are you guys 12
>>337087234
Am I the only guy who thinks his Ult actually isn't that good?
Maybe it's because I never fight a lot of melee or whatever, but I find that LOSING the throwing stars is sort of a Nerf.
>bastion potg
>kills 2 people
>>337096920
>>337096924
When every player will get off their ultimates at least once or twice in a match that basically cements that the POTG will involve an ult.
Remove ults and the door is open for actual interesting or skillful plays. That these actually have a chance of being shown instead of some junkrat tire or whatever.
It's not like the way ults are currently make the game better anyway.
>>337096883
>>337096818
Who the fuck cares? POTG is meaningless.
People will tell you the answer is Mercy but the thing is, you can basically highjack any enemy's POTG-worthy kills by jumping in and rezzing. That's pretty funny.
By my money it's Zenyatta.
>>337096986
25 shield is deceptively powerful m8. It's a permanent 25 health boost, until death, that can regenerate itself. That can make or break a kill especially for an enemy Tracer or Widowmaker or something like that.
>>337097053
Winston's ult isn't supposed to be "kill everything in sight" like other ults are. Winston is an extremely good hero at disrupting, and his ultimate literally scatters enemies all over the place. You can't be more disruptive than that.
>>337097053
I have never seen a winston do well
His ult is kitable and doesn't hurt for shit, his shield instantly dies because there's always a bastion/pharaha/whatever lurking and I forget what his other awful abilities do
Has anyone heard when the open beta is actually going to close down?
>>337096986
did anyone else notice you can rapid fire smaller orbs?
>mfw
>>337096723
It's just fun to get potg. Feels nice knowing everyone is about to watch you kick ass. Even though my retarded cousin could kick ass in this game, it's still fun to see yourself in the spotlight. It feels badass when you get play of the game with a character like Genji or especially if you win the game because of it. If you don't agree you're probably just a master of video games and too good for such easy casual stuff.
>>337096986
>symmetra's shield
>useful
It's 25 shields, it's fucking nothing.
>>337088494
>full sperg mode active
>"You're an autist!!"
>>337097113
his ult is pretty good but using it is situational. unlike 76 you can't just charge in and start spamming. you'll still die in 2 hits. What you do is let the team fight begin or go in and do a quick kill on the support and wall jump your way out.
>>337097113
I have trouble with his ult too. It always feel like I'm doing way less damage than I should be or I'm not hitting despite being right in their faces
>>337096693
or they could just not make the strong girl a generic Russian strong woman, i mean it's only a trope that's been done since the 50's (no i will not stop reminding people of that)
After that shit with Effie in Fates i'm even more fucking sick of generic strong women. you want to fucking be real progressive shit devs, stop making strong women fucking butch cliches with zero depth outside their strength, let them retain being fucking feminine even while they have huge muscles and abs.
>>337097053
>winston swing attack in ult only sends people flying but barely does damage
>who the fuck though this was a good idea
B-but anon! Tanks are not supposed to deal damage!
>>337097191
that shield fucks me over so bad as roadhog, every single reaper dances away with 19 health with a sym shield
>>337096758
I'm innately good with all FPS due to years of tribes and shit, so the "git gud" thing doesn't hold any merit with me. And really, "I want to get good!" really shouldn't mean shit to you either, what happens when you finally "Get Good"? You play the same game you've been playing when you weren't gud.
sure there's a handful of characters i'm not good with, but I don't give a shit, those ones are the characters like Genji who is easily replaced by multiple characters
>>337096950
There is 12 maps, but they're split into 3s so you'll only ever play assault on Hanamura, Temple of Anubis, and Volskaya Industries, etc
>>337097139
it's his tesla cannon man, it's such garbage
>>337097191
i can't be one shotted by snipers with a 25 shield on mercy at least
>>337097176
10am PDT
>>337097191
>25 extra health that can regenerate itself
>Lasts until death
Nah m8. It's a good move.
>>337097190
I know, I'm being a jerk about it, but people do put way too much stock in it. Some players you can tell are just fishing for POTGs and it can really screw you over. I see Mercy players refuse to drop a rez on 1 or 2 people because they think they can score a game-winning 3/4/5-man rez. It's pretty aggravating, especially for Mercy whose ult recharges faster than you can blink.
>>337097259
You ever go mano-a-mano with Zarya? That slut can really dish it out.
>>337097139
you can really tell Winston was Op in the closed beta by how mediocre he performed in the open one, it was like watching launch Stiches vs alpha stitches.Blizzard nerf lazily and harshly when they have to be assed to.
>>337097325
she can only dish it out if you got 5 retarded monkeys shooting her shield.
>>337095903
Widowmaker literally says ara ara
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuwE6BWYDes
>0:20
>>337088768
(You)
>>337097191
it prevents being one shot, that is huger than you think
>>337096959
>next you fucks are gonna tell me you don't tip
>implying i have to make up for shitty wages
I tip if the service is good, not because i'm so cucked i think it's okay to be paid less than minimum wage
>>337097393
I loved stiches, which is funny because I actively hate pudge and roadhog. When will mobas and mutliplayer games let the hook-man meme fucking die already
>>337084482
will other characters be getting origin skins?
>>337097314
Winston isn't all about charging in and killing people. Fuck off.
Also, Tribes is way different than this game. I'm pretty fucking good with a spinfusor myself and I can tell you right now that game is so different from every other FPS I've ever played that it just doesn't translate.
Winston is a great hero for disrupting, one of the best Mercy killers there is. There's a reason he gets picked all the damn time at high level play. My favorite part is shutting down a McCree ult entirely just by dropping a shield.
>>337097439
Well shit. I guess I haven't played it in Japanese enough, haven't heard that one. Still, Mercy is my favorite voicein both languages
>>337095815
>tfw i got this in a loot box today
>tfw it will be gone after the beta ends
>>337097439
does the game have subtitle options when you turn the VA to Jap?
>>337097242
>or they could just not make the strong girl a generic Russian strong woman
They could also make the cyborg ninja not japanese, the chick in the robot suit not korean, the sultry sexy special agent sniper not french, etc.
This is because current Blizzard can be summed up with one word. Uninspired.
I mean jesus christ even SNK is better at this. They made a Brazilian ninja that doesn't even have any ninja skills, he just moves really fast while pretending that it's ninjutsu.
>>337084482
PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO AIM. I DON'T WANT TO BE A SHITTER ANYMORE
>>337097659
>literal shit slapped together
are you implying that is good character design?
>>337095815
I can't wait for halloween
>>337097529
never because the ability to force re-position enemy units, and even allied ones is a HUGE:y useful tool. at least in this case Blizzard is more the source of the character type.
>>337097530
when they need more money as premium DLC probably.
>playing Pharah with a Zarya that knows how to time barriers for my ult
These two together can work wonders even against an entire enemy team.
>>337097023
That fucking webm of Torbjorn getting a PoTG and the whole clip is him dead waiting to respawn.
You don't know ehther to laugh or cry.
>>337092420
>mfw juggling him with mines and grenades
a little disappointed that he has no lines referencing the demonstrations man or anything
>>337097642
Well, the text options and voice options are separate. I play with Japanese audio and English text, but I do know enough to get by. As far as I know there's no proper subtitles.
But if you leave the text in English, then all the menus and shit are still in English. You'll be fine.
>>337097748
A good Zarya on your team is such a wonderful blessing. Shame Zarya players seem to be so rare.
>>337097715
Re-read my post again.
>>337097659
By having tension with his Brother Genji is literally twice the character of Zavrya, Zavrya's entire voice pack in the hero log is strength related references outside of 'one' which is her stealing the famous lien from Drago in rocky IV
>play D.va
>fly into enemy group
>ulti
>kill 5 retards at once and a 6th immediately after without the mecha
>POTG is some Widowmaker bodyshotting 2 people in a row
k then
>>337087810
>20 people
>a lot
Why do you retards always think everyone votes for that shit?
>>337097120
Most PoTGs are an ult and 2-3 normal kills too. I've had barely any issues with them. They're fun but meaningless. You might as well be complaining you're not getting commended enough.
>>337097439
>one shotto one kirru
weebs think this sounds good, literally sounds like shitty animu
>>337096959
>faggot wasting money on 40$
>meanwhile I'll get it for 15$
You are not only retarded but you will also never have actual money.
>>337097780
because she isn't built to be a good solo tank, and is shoved in the tank catagory. She will see use in any situation where organized strategy is possible, but rare use in pubs for this fact.
>all these manure people who can't handle a little edge
Keep telling yourself everything is ironic if it helps your tiny mind from collapsing.
>defend good
>one good push and the game ends from attacking team
this game has too much of a comeback system. casual as fuck
>>337097053
>disrupting an entire team completely
>not great
It's like you faggots only see the worth in something if it does damage.
I'M GOING FOR THE TOBLERONE CYKA
>>337084482
You want to know how I got these scars?
*juggles mine in his hands*
Don't make me bring out my joker laugh
he-he.. he-he.. hahAHaHAHABahHAHAHA, how bloody wicked this all is!
*shoots grenades wildly*
Mom's gonna freak!
>>337095298
>posts shitty anime picture from some entry-level non-game
opinion discarded, i bet you don't even speak japanese and suck at the game
>>337097894
>>337097867
Who the fuck cares? POTG is meaningless.
I mean really, I was having this discussion with a friend earlier. He was furious because he had a game-winning Pharah ult, and lost POTG to the enemy Bastion (the clip ended with Bastion being killed by said Pharah ult). If YOU know you made the amazing play, and your whole team knows it, and the enemy team knows it too because it just cost them the match, why does it even matter?
>>337097865
Zarya has some lines about her hatred of robots. Remember she had to go fight them.
>>337097987
Well, I don't know about 'shoved'. She is obviously the most fragile tank health-wise but is still oriented around trying to take as much damage as possible. It's just that she does this not because she CAN, but also because it beefs up her weapon.
One day people will git gud with Zarya and I will be a happy Mercy main.
>>337098042
I'm glad to see people understand this. Knocking enemies all over the place is too damn funny to watch
>>337097867
POTG prioritizes multi kills in short time over aoe kills at once, outside of mercy ult aoe. this is why bastion get so many potg, because he's one of the highest likely to get alot of kills in a short window.
>>337097959
It's so bad it's good
>>337084482
I just now configured my controls in a way that makes me like playing Genji. The reflect ability is such a trump card, I love it. Suddenly I was able to kill Tracers, Bastions, and D.va's just by gently baiting them into shooting at me and clicking R3. Plus the mobility is great, I love putting myself behind enemy lines and getting someone to shoot at me so that I can reflect at them.
I have kind of a one-track mind so I haven't really gotten the timing down on his dash ability or played with his ult. I've just been running around reflecting things.
>>337098094
>Remember she had to go fight them.
Didn't they all? I don't know much about the super deep lore of overwatch but wasn't overwatch put together specifically to fight robots
So how many more maps and game modes are they adding at full release?
>>337098103
No, it's not. You should feel bad for being this weeb
>>337084581
>Anti-Overwatch cucks
Shouldn't you be playing Battleborn or TF2?
>>337098187
can't wait for the ctf mode with not-2fort
>>337098187
lol none
retarded nigger, you just played the whole game. this IS the release content
maybe 1 new map every 4 months
>>337097235
it's 120 damage on hit, so you'll need at least 2 hits to kill any character on full health. However, it can hit a lot of people at once. Also, remember that it not only resets your dash ability, but dash resets on each kill.
Use it to ambush groups of people, starting with annoying Mercies and McCrees and working your way up from there. You can use your dash to get to a good ambush site, activate, dash into the group and start hacking away. use Dash to escape if necessary. Also, reflect won't end your ult, so use it if you have to. But mainly, its about picking the moment to use it
>>337097894
>You might as well be complaining you're not getting commended enough.
I don't want ults, I don't wanted forced POTG, I don't want the forced commend and medal screen.
They're all designed for the ultra casual bad players to make them feel better.
>>337098236
>>337098272
>>337098283
Wew, guess I'm not buying this until I see enough new content added.
>>337088980
Sounds like a fapfic in the making
>>337098310
you can leave game right after. you still get all your exp.
>>337098187
>So how many more maps and game modes are they adding at full release?
The only thing they're adding at release is a "ranked" mode.
They're adding no additional content. So you saw everything the game had to offer in the Beta.
>>337097959
Turns out Japanese VA speak English badly, who's surprised?
It's just the same as when English speaking actors show off by speaking an Asian language in their movies. We're impressed but the asian audiences cringe all the way through at their terrible pronunciation.
If you really want to wince, go watch the start of the second to latest Eva movie and see Kanji (a spy who's fluent in multiple languages) attempting to speak English.
>>337094047
Give him 25-50 more health, make his ult do enough damage to actually kill shit, and maybe reduce the cooldown on his dash attack slightly and he'd be top-tier.
I hate nerfs because they always make a character completely fucking useless, I've never actually seen a balanced nerf that lets a character retain its utility and play the same role with just a little more effort. I want everything brought up to "broken" status so that every hero is viable.
>>337084864
>soars away
This has to be the least manly way to leave an area
>>337098094
essentially her'es what i mean.
Reinhard is the tank as everyone expect the role to be, huge durable shields everyone can advance slowly and constantly, and park on payloads easily.
Winston is a disruption tank, he can get around things and leap into he fray better than reinhardt ever could, and has tools to just scatter fuckers about causing chaos.
D.Va is a rush tank she is about getting around problems fast, and rushing points/ambushing from behind if need to. she can often bypass enemies and camp the point or camp it enoguh to force the enmy to move to stop her.
Roadhog is a self sufficient/gank tank. he doesn't need to really have anyone help him and can gank unaware people easily or pull annoying target out of position.
Zav is a 'support' tank. she doesn't have mobility but she brings DPS isntead, so She can actually throw into the fight proper and protect others as much as her.
>>337098209
>Being above cringe humor
Sure you are
>>337098420
Nobody cares about some chink speak though. Dumb kid.
>>337098469
You think your epic ironic memes are good but they aren't. You just shit up the board.
>>337098385
>you can leave game right after. you still get all your exp.
I know and I always did leave. Sometimes I left even before the loss/vicotry message came up if I knew the outcome.
The game is designed too heavily to appeal to the super terrible and stupid casual crowd while at the same time them trying to make Overwatch into an esport.
It's retarded.
>>337087810
>/vg/ thread is full of blizzdrones who believe the game is 100% perfectly balanced for a beta pre-release
>OF COURSE I'LL BUY IT AT FULL PRICE BLIZZARD CAN DO NO WRONG
>>337094142
>playing something outside of its original language
The point of watching foreign films in their native languages is for the original performance. I watch anime subbed because it's Japanese. I watched Downfall in German because it's German. Switching something to Japanese just because you like the sound of Japanese is fucking stupid.
>>337098209
Fuck off, I get a good chuckle out of it. Half of the damn lines are ripped straight from English untranslated.
>FIYA IN ZA HORU
>DUROPPO ZA BEATO
>>337098310
While I do agree that POTG and commends are for casuals, I am somewhat interested in the ults mechanic. They are obviously match-defining and I also agree that they're a little too easy to make big plays with. But you do have to have that one ability that can change the pace of the game.
Take TF2 for example. For years, THE game-defining ability was the Medic's Ubercharge. You could probably argue that it still is. It's absolutely essential for an offense - no defensive threat can stand to an Ubercharged Demoman, essentially. It's also a great tool on defense just for sheer offense-slaying power. But that's just on one of the classes, isn't it?
>>337098459
I think their angle with Zarya was to be, alongside Roadhog and D.va, a damage-oriented tank with more utility than Roadhog or D.va. I think they executed it well and I guess I'm not seeing why you have an issue with this?
Where else would you put her? Support? I think she's too damage-oriented for that.
>>337098487
Except the largest movie watching demographic in the world...
>>337098498
>The game is designed too heavily to appeal to the super terrible and stupid casual crowd
Then it should be right up your alley :^)
how much damage does genji's shift do? should I go for two shuriken combos or one before diving in? is there ever a good reason to use his right click?
>>337098283
>maybe 1 new map every 4 months
I never played HoTS, how often is content added to this?
>>337098498
>trying to make Overwatch into an esport.
zero chance in hell of this happening
>>337098489
We're talking about quips in babby's first FPS, it won't get much better than this
>>337098549
Live in literal small cages with 50 others.
Mcree is fucking overpowered as shit. He excels in almost every scenario and Mei's slow is too powerful as well. You might as well give up as soon as you get tagged by her ice.
>>337098610
50
>is there ever a good reason to use his right click?
You can hit all three bells at once in the attacker spawn in Dorito
>>337089074
>>337090620
Corpus is still technically correct.
cor·pus
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noun
noun: corpus; plural noun: corpuses; plural noun: corpora
1.
a collection of written texts, especially the entire works of a particular author or a body of writing on a particular subject.
"the Darwinian corpus"
a collection of written or spoken material in machine-readable form, assembled for the purpose of studying linguistic structures, frequencies, etc.
2.
ANATOMY
the main body or mass of a structure.
the central part of the stomach, between the fundus and the antrum.
>>337090169
why do people take pictures like this. can you even imagine being this beta? Like i bet he posted this on facebook and thought some girl would be super impressed he has a black suit and a fucking fedora. Like just imagine having a single mom. How horrible.
so how long until Blizzard makes it possible to buy the currency with real money?
>>337098610
50
Depends
Yes
>>337098534
Works out sometimes though. See LoL where the American VA are a bit of a mixed bag, some good, some decent, some great. America has a decent VA market, but they don't generally work on video games and (IIRC) they don't work outside the guild. So they're generally AAA titles only. Same reason the Persona games have shit VA in the USA, top tier VA don't work on weeb import games.
Whereas the Japanese VA were done when Riot was fucking rich as fuck, so they just hired the best Anime VA and every character sounds fucking great. Plus, it's funny as fuck hearing Goku and Dio as the characters.
>>337098542
Well Symmetra has fuck all support options and she's shoved int here because her ult is 'that' good evidently (shields good but it's not solo support worthy)
Zav isn't bad but she's just never going to be viable in general pug play most of the time because the suggestion sidebar tries to encourage one tank. as much as i'm groaning to refer to its 'pro' scene, that is where you'll see her do a lot and do well, any situation where she is with people she can easily coordinate well, she will be good.
>>337098646
There were a shitload of tournaments in the closed beta
>>337098707
it's good spike damage at point blank
>>337098697
>cant even insta gib mei before getting frozed
Casual as fuck.
>>337098802
Yeah, you watch any of them? These maps are hilariously bad for competitive. I don't mind the pick-counterpick situation since that already happens in e sports but these maps, jesus fucking christ.
>>337098865
What's wrong with the maps?
>>337098823
I know but the bells are far more important
>>337098697
stun mechanics simply should not exist in a shooting game.
>>337098562
>Then it should be right up your alley :^)
It actually wasn't which was why I canceled my pre-order and even stopped playing the beta on thursday last week.
>>337098542
>I am somewhat interested in the ults mechanic.
The concept of ults is fine, it's just how they're designed that makes them ass.
They're these super powerful (but shallow) abilities that needs to be charged up (but you can still get them even if you just keep dying, this is so even bad players can get to use their big ultimates).
An ult should be just a slightly stronger skill than normal with generally a longer cooldown than your normal ones. It should tie into the hero's design in terms of synergy and not be something dumb like Bastion turning into a tank (when he's supposed to be a more stationary defensive hero) or Hanzo summoning a big dragon that has noclip.
For example, the idea that Symmetra has to charge up to use her teleporter is fucking stupid.
>>337098802
Blizzard wants Riot's money.
They did the same thing with Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm, and they killed SC2 while trying their best to make it an eSport.
SC2 lasted a little while, mostly due to the success of BW. Heroes was dead on arrival and Hearthstone is a joke of an eSport (wins are literally RNG), but it still makes them a billion fucking dollars, so I think they're cool with HS as is.
If they can get Overwatch to make the kind of money CSGO makes they'll be happy even if it's not an eSport.
>play winston
>now enemy team can't camp anymore
I fucking love raging intelligent monkey
>>337098865
I remember where it was like 2 winstons both teams, a mercy,then 3 Mccree/genji/Whatever at a time whatever the strat was that spawn.,
>shallow
Is this some kind of new meme or something?
>>337098943
>Enemy team is 6 tracer
>Go Winston
>Jump on the payload and hold m1
>3 kills simultaneously
We still lost because for some reason we NEEDED a Widowmaker and no one went healer. Fucking hell don't even bother with Pharah versus six Tracers just go something that fucks her up they're letting you counter them.
>use to play S4 League
>now a new action arena game is released
>my skills easily translate over
Not bad
>>337098754
I do agree with Symmetra's placement. Teleporters and shields aside (and those are big), them Sentry turrets are also great little scouting tools. They obviously won't kill an enemy Reaper or flanking Junkrat or whatever, but they will alert Symmetra and by extension her entire team. That's pretty damn useful, don'tcha think
I've seen plenty of good PuG Zaryas. They are my favorite pocket as a Mercy player because they are the only ones who seem to understand that I am a big target who needs protecting, something that other pub scrubs don't seem to fucking understand
>>337098902
Well, I don't know what he's on about, but some of the choke points are just ri-goddamn-diculous. You can almost completely trap an enemy team at the first gate in Hanamura and Volskaya if you lock down hard enough.
>>337098930
Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I think an ultimate should live up to the world 'ultimate', is that really unfair? There's definitely some clunkiness to the way they've been implemented, but hey, I think they did an okay job in the end.
Teleporter is really goddamn strong. Really, really goddamn strong. I don't really like the way it's been implemented either, since Symmetra is robbed of her biggest value while it's not active. But I'm currently way too tired to think of a different way to design it
>>337098902
A lot of them are 'balanced' around he assumption because you switch sides each round it's fair (i/e its ok if a maps impossibly hard as attack, because you will eb defense next time it's aok) this of course is counter to the fact that the game let's people drop after the first round, so if you got stuck on he shit side, and lost, you just cut and run, and the map usually then reinstances.
but also blizzard balance is more about justifying their lack of doing more work,than just doing the work int he firs tplace.
>>337099119
Most of my wins likely came from people just not understanding that you're not suppose to sit on one hero or even main one. And most of my losses came from just have retarded teammates who basically all go offense
>>337099107
Overwatch is shallow. Do you disagree? Why?
Do you think the heroes have some incredible depth or something?
Torbjörn is a chopped up Engineer.
Junkrat, McCree, Genji, and Roadhog feel like the only well-balanced classes in the game.
Everything else feels like it exists only to counter one other hero or is like a "I get to have ALL the powers" kid.
>>337099107
Shallow means lacking depth. You could have googled that.
>>337099107
let me explain:
>people enjoy a game
>then they realise its a blizzard game
>oh noes, my v-buds told me to hate blizzard
>I know, I'll say that its fun, but I'll also call it shallow so that they dont call me a pleb
>what a great idea!
its like people with >1000 hours in skyrim saying stuff like: I know the game is bad, but I enjoy bla bla
>>337098936
HS is a joke but it's sadly also their most 'successful' eSport they shot the foot out of Starcraft and HoTS is so godamn bad as an esport it's not even funny
>>337095695
Use it from a good spot. Really that is the trick. All the Mcree players always try to do it like a cowboy, face to face. Sorry John, there is no honor in dying.
The absolute most frustrating part of playing Symmetra for me
>You can't charge a new teleporter while you have the old one up
>If six people go through your teleporter it dies automatically
>If the point is captured it gets "refunded" AKA we're forcing you to pack up and lose 40% charge, we don't care if you still wanted it in that spot YOU LOSE 40% charge, you're the only hero we penalize this way because we hate you Symmetra :^^^^^^^)
>>337095767
this literally happens though
both those characters have frustrated quotes in japanese when they revive from a death
>>337099167
In tournament play, teams don't drop between rounds
Also, a skilled attack team usually wins, which is why they do a stopwatch format in most tournaments, so that the team that wins faster on attack is the one that wins the match
>>337099268
I didnt know you could use his ult with his right click. more you know
>>337099218
McCree isn't well-balanced. Blizzard has actively acknowledged this. I personally don't think he's that big of a deal, but top McCree players are just fucking bonkers. He's too good at medium range to also be such an effective close ranger fighter.
>>337084482
Is there any possible reason to pick Zarya?
I find her to be the only actual deadweight hero in this fucking game.
>Can only be effective at close range
>Her projectile is no homing, so you have to aim, meaning that fast targets are going to be a pain
>Can't take too much damage
>Can't dish out too much damage
>Only way to up the dps is to put up your 2 second barrier and hope they'll shoot it
For fuck sake.
>>337099218
> a "I get to have ALL the powers" kid.
Literally Roadhog
>>337099317
He didn't. That was just McCree firing off all the shots he had lined up. That was a pretty goddamn good high noon.
>>337099331
I wipe the floor with Genji using literally any class but Winston. He's extremely easy to deal with because 99% of the players are shitters who think he's the OP meta.
I've never once seen him ever get a successful high noon off, the most I've ever seen it do is kill 2 people and then get him killed.
>>337099381
literally cartman
>>337097093
>borderlands
>mocking anything except their critics
>implying Zero wasn't supposed to be cool
If Zer0 was a joke, I don't think anyone got it.
>bastion uses his ult
>hear the banjo kazooie sound effect for grabbing sneakers
>>337099217
>Overwatch is shallow. Do you disagree? Why?
I disagree because it's just a meme
>>337099163
No offense but the only reason she shields you is because she can, the reason most people 'ignore' your plight is because they couldn't help you if they wanted outside of killing a dude attacking you. they can provide jump to points but thats going to be situational in pugs.
I'm goign to assume you aren't saying pocket as in 'i only heal the tank though' because if you want to do that Roadhog is better if you can get him to not press e while your tethered.
>>337099331
I agree but I'm not sure they can really nerf McCree too much. Without Flash and Fan any side halls would just turn into a clusterfuck dominated my Mei's, Tracers and possibly Reapers.
Not to mention he's only got 200 HP, zero mobility and the only thing he brings to a team is raw killing power.
>>337099163
>I think an ultimate should live up to the world 'ultimate'
Blizzard took the entire skills and ultimate idea from MOBAs.
Now if we look at MOBAs ultimates do not work like they do in Overwatch, yet they do feel like ultimates.
The ultimates in Overwatch are just dumb and poorly designed. It's literally the "awesome button".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMcVZQI6ybw
IF YOU PUSH THIS BUTTON, SOMETHING AWESOME HAS OT HAPPEN
>>337084482
How many hours from now does the beta end?
I have to do something today when all I want to do is play Overwatch.
Using Symmetra's charged shots to kill Reinhardt's through their shields is a glorious feel
>mfw I found out you can reflect bastion's rockets
>>337094950
>Offense
Soldier 76, he's solid plus I'm a shitter and that heal is a get out of jail free card
>Defense
Torbjorn, because turrets are fun. Plus giving Armour is a big boost
>Tank
Toss up between Zarya ad Roadhog. Zarya can fuck people really hard if they give her charge, but ebin hooks are just too fun
>Support
Probably mercy, people still never expect you to fly up with pharrah and buff her damage
>>337099163
the real solution with Symmetra is just make her the 'shield' support to mercy doing health. drop her high damage LM for a hold LM on a target she's applied the 25 hp shield to to overcharge it, have the overcharge shield taper off quickly if she breaks the tether but hold as long as she's tethered(have her own shield absorb their damage first before their shield starts dropping) let her keep the novel RM projectile for harass, this would let her charge her ult faster making her more generally useful,and give her better busywork when she's laid out the turrets.
>>337099557
>Blizzard took the entire skills and ultimate idea from MOBAs.
...And MOBAs took that idea from WARCRAFT 3, you fucking retard
>>337099378
Her alt fire is really great, you should be using it more than left click. Once you're up to 100 charge you can melt any hero in the game including tanks in about one second.
Her shield absorbs 200 damage, but her E (shield ally) absorbs 400. The enemy barely has to do any damage for you to get maximum charge per shield (50). Even at this point, 50 charge, she's dealing respectable damage.
She definitely takes a bit of practice, and she combos well with another tank (especially Roadhog because he's not afraid to eat shots), but once you get her going she's high damage and almost unkillable.
She's my third most played hero
>>337099378
Nah, Zarya when played right is a tremendous boon to your team. Plus, her ult has some pretty insane synergy with other ultimates.
>>337099429
You wipe the floor with Genji? You mean McCree?
It sounds like you play against shitty McCrees.
>>337099513
Yeah, it's a pretty awkward spot. It's just a perfectly-accurate, high damage weapon on a close-range fighter seems silly.
>>337099472
Yeah, well, shame on me for trying to generalize about all PuGs. It's more an issue of lack of coordination, and yes there's many more times than I could count where they knew I was under fire but helpless to do anything about it.
I don't usually pocket tanks, Zarya is the only one who benefits enough from a damage boost in my opinion. Obviously I don't stick to one target the whole match but if nobody needs healing I'm going to latch on to a high-damage dealer and help them dish out pain.
>>337099557
Are you saying ultimates in MOBAs can't be game-defining? Fuck, go ahead and pick Enigma and watch the enemy team pick at least one hero just to hard counter you.
>>337086856
He just happens to be a ninja. His voice clips aren't edgy and actually focus more about him being a cyborg than stereotypical ninja shit.
>>337099457
You don't even know what a meme is.
Overwatch is intentionally designed to be shallow and acessible and you can't even come with any counter arguments for it.
Let's look at another hero then. Bastion is an incredibly basic hero with no depth at all.
He has a standard full auto rifle, a self repair and a turret mode where you don't even have to think about things like recoil or anything.
You can learn how to play Bastion in a minute and master him in 5min tops.
>>337099601
and Zarya's ult
and the arrow from Hanzo ult (before it explodes into dragons/wolves)
it also blocks Roadhog's hook I think
genji da best
>>337099601
you can reflect anything except laser weapons.
>mfw genji tries to reflect my gorilla gun
>>337099662
Will take your advice. Because I was really looking forward to playing her a lot.
>>337099664
Have yet to see a Zarya be a boon to any team, senpai. I don't deny her Ult is 10/10, but your hero isn't its Ult
>>337099513
If they made him actually have to aim his flashbang and r.mousebutton, he'd be perfectly fine.
>>337099562
Anyone?
>>337099718
Bastion's depth is in placement and team play. It's easy to shit all over newbie Bastions who just set up on the point. 3 rockets and they're dead.
A bastion who works with his team, or picks a really good spot like a side corner for an ambush - that's where the kills come from.
>>337099771
Well, then you play with bad Zaryas m8. I'm sorry. She is a very strong hero in capable hands.
>>337099815
Man, I do love a good ambush Bastion. Almost as fun as ambush Torb
>>337099813
>>337099562
About 19
>>337094356
Cyborg ninja is a is a fun trope, even japanese devs use it.
>>337099601
>mfw I reflected a McCree flash bang
>>337099718
>YOUR button presses are shallow, MY button presses are 2deep4u
Oh and good luck playing Bastion vs. a competent team, I hope your 5 minutes of playing is enough :^)
>>337099771
were you seeing zav's try to solo tank? she always seems especially mediocre if shes the only tank and getting all the focus. her true power comes when she has another tank to move with so the enemies are split between them.
>>337099639
And warcraft 3 took it from other games.
Also MOBAs started with SC, not WC3.
This doesn't change anything of what I said.
>>337099664
>Are you saying ultimates in MOBAs can't be game-defining? Fuck, go ahead and pick Enigma and watch the enemy team pick at least one hero just to hard counter you.
I'm saying ults in mobas are more than big dumb awesome buttons every character has.
Also when you tie every single ultimate to this charge system it dumbs them down further. With a cooldown or resource for example you have much bigger room to create something interesting or different, since you can for example balance and ultimate to have a 100s cd or a 20s cd.
This has already caused problems for Blizzard in their design with heroes like Symmetra that has her teleporter as her charged ultimate.
>>337099767
I'm pretty sure you can deflect reinhardt's hammer too.
>having fun with cyborg ninja shuriken man
>then three freeze duwang the china girl shows up to stop all my fun
I hate mei
>>337099970
>I'm saying ults in mobas are more than big dumb awesome buttons every character has.
Uhhh no, that's pretty much how it works in MOBAs too
>>337091162
Because she was modeled after an SJW, obviously. Fucking look at her. Why else do you think she's braindead easy? Only shitters and faggot tryhard trolls play as her. Can you smell my salt from here? Holy fuck!
>>337099976
>I got killed by one of my hard counters!
What a world, huh?
>>337099970
I don't think you know a damn thing about MOBAs. Even the part of your post that wasn't in response to me indicates that.
The way I see the various ults in this game is that they're all OP and everyone's tossing OP abilities at each other every now and again. Yeah, it could be better, but it's pretty fun to experience so I'm not complaining.
>>337099815
>Bastion's depth is in placement and team play.
Which is not even remotely difficult at all, especially with how all the maps are designed and how many bottlenecks there are.
Bastion's depth is puddle deep.
>>337099860
And now the shitposting from the fanboys unwilling to accept criticism or challenging their echo chamber ideas rear their ugly heads.
Fine then, you keep believing that Overwatch is the pefect game with incredible depth. This game is designed to make people like you feel good about themselves.
>>337096290
Her accent when speaking Russian is fucking terrible. Doesn't sound Russian at all. Still not as bad as those "Americans" in Russian movies who are clearly not American and are speaking broken English.
>>337099974
you most certianly can't. How the fuck would that even work?
Unless you meant the fireball, but I don't think that can be either. Symmetra's Orb can be though so I dunno
Do people really think McCree is OP?
He has very little mobility and it's just used to amp up his DPS instead of actually dodging shit. This is further apparent on defense because you can't go to the point faster than regular fat fucks like Road Hog and you'd be wasting your DPS and sort of dodge for mobility.
His stun is just enough for you to land 4-6 of his bullets and it's only good at close range.
His LMB and RMB are nothing special considering that there are more powerful attacks out there. But a good aim with headshots is really good damage. Still he can't do shit vs long range.
His ultimate is loud as fuck and you glow like the sun when using it. How can you even get caught by such a telegraphed shit?
What did she mean by this
Welcome to WHO'S WATCH IS IT ANYWAY, where the lives don't matter and you're just going to fuck around til you ult everybody and claim it's skill!
>>337087234
Can be unpredictable at times. Don't just run back and fourth or side-to-side, just keep running and jumping around throwing crap at people.
>>337100205
I always thought she was scottish
>>337098420
>Turns out Japanese VA speak English badly, who's surprised?
nobody's surprised, we just think it's fucking stupid to idolize it.
>>337100158
Do you have any examples of games that are SO DEEP then?
>>337096453
>PotG
>something I did in the first 30 seconds of a payload defense as Torbjorn involving people running straight into a turret
>decide to try the rapetrain setup with me as Bastion and a friend as Reinhardt
>enemy Genji comes in to save the day
>stop shooting at him when he activates his reflect
>awkward silence
>he just stands there looking at me
>his sword drops and so does his body
>mfw
>*runs up towards you*
謝謝!
>*W+M1 towards you until you freeze*
凍住!
>*headshots you with her ice gun*
冰牆,升起來吧!
>*blocks your spawn with her ice wall*
>>337091357
Fag
>>337099290
also Genji has a shit ton of sarcastic Japanese quotes for when he gets a deflect kill
>genji
>flank people
>pointblank rightclick -> melee -> dash
>they all animation cancel into eachother
>free money
>>337100579
is there a difference from LMB and RMB aside from a focus and spread fire respectively?
>>337100683
RMB spams quicker.
>>337100006
>Uhhh no, that's pretty much how it works in MOBAs too
Let's take Dota 2 for example.
Tiny, Wraith King, Phantom Lancer and Bristleback have passives as their ultimates.
Timbersaw has a big saw he can toss out on an 8s cd.
Axe has a pretty normal cooldown on his ultimate, but if you kill someone when they're low enough on HP the skill doesn't go on cooldown and your allies are buffed.
Alchemist receives a buff ultimate that lasts almost as long as the cooldown.
Bounty Hunter has an ult on a 4s cd that "only" marks targets, increases nearby allies movespeed and increases the amount of gold you get if you kill said targets while they're under said debuff.
>>337100083
>I don't think you know a damn thing about MOBAs. Even the part of your post that wasn't in response to me indicates that.
I most likely know more about MOBAs than you do, so please stop making these dumb baseless assumptios like a fucking idiot would do.
>The way I see the various ults in this game is that they're all OP and everyone's tossing OP abilities at each other every now and again. Yeah, it could be better, but it's pretty fun to experience so I'm not complaining.
Here's the thing. You throw up your hands and exclaim that you don't care about balance, depth and how interesting the actual skills are. I do.
This is why I'm annoyed with Blizzard over how stupid and shallow their design is. They could've made this into a great game, but they chose to simply make it a big dumb shallow shitshow because they think appealing to the big dumb casual audience will make them the most money.
Current Blizzard is no longer about making great games, but solely about making the most amounts of money possible and it's just frustrating to see how a can fall so hard.
But I guess I should just realize after SC2, D3, Hearthstone, HotS and now Overwatch that I'm no longer the target audience. The dumb masses are.
>>337100794
>Let's take Dota 2 for example.
Oh THAT explains the hate for OW
It's just Dotards whining about people actually having buttons to press and having to aim, instead of having 3 passives and a point-and-click stun
>>337100306
Why do you go with the red herring approach here? I'm talking about Overwatch and your only response is to try an deflect?
Yes there are examples of more deeper (but similar) games and Blizzard could also have surpassed them in depth, but mentioning them is irrelevant because I'm talking about Overwatch here.
If you don't think Bastion is super shallow in terms of game design and how he plays, then pelase do share what makes him so incredibly deep. Stay on topic.
>>337100409
>謝謝!
中國的基本短語!
>*靦腆地說*
俏皮話〜
>>337100794
>I most likely know more about MOBAs than you do
I find that hard to believe. Every argument you've made has indicated that you don't know what you're talking about.
It sounds like you have a massive chip on your shoulder and want to piss and moan about how much you hate Blizzard. I can get that too, I've been burned by them before. Your point is just very shallow: the game is balanced (or, rather, they are working on balancing it) but it's just not in a way that you like. That's fine, you don't have to like it, but just because you think it's shallow doesn't mean that it is. There is an element of strategy to using ults in this game, believe it or not - punctuated by the fact that enemies will always know when it's coming, so you'll just get shit on if you don't employ strategy. Each hero has their own match-swinging element to them. The game is built around that idea of balance. It sounds like you just want a toned down version of what we have already, but the game's already been built around it - so you'd have to change a lot more than just the ultimates.
I wish I wasn't so tired, I'm sure I'd be arguing this better. But it seems to me you're doing a lot more bitching than introducing reasonable points...
Unless you really think it's reasonable to compare the ults in DotA 2 to the ults in this game. There's an entirely different design philosphy at the core of ultimate abilities in each of these games, of course they're going to be wildly different.
>>337100947
>Why do you go with the red herring approach here?
It's not a red herring
You call OW "shallow," so surely that means you can provide some examples of "deep" games to use as a basis for comparison?
>offense on control point map
>teammates immediately pick Hanzo and Widowmaker
I wish these people would stop playing the game
>>337100906
>Oh THAT explains the hate for OW
I have played countless MOBAs, I took Dota 2 because it's one of the bigger ones people here would most likely recognize.
Other MOBAs I have played are
>smite
>infinite crisis
>paragon
>arena of fate
>strife
>demigod
>aeon of strife
>etc
But I do like how you instantly latched on to this one thing to create a logical fallacy instead of providing actualy counter arguments to prove me wrong.
But that, as always, is just proof that you can't prove me wrong but you don't want to admit it. Instead you prefer to not have your ideas challenged, plug your ears and stay in that echo chamber of yours.
Did it ever occur to you that when you keep on being unable to prove your ideas to be correct, to counter arguments other people present, that maybe (just MAYBE) that idea you have might not actually hold any water? That it might not be correct? That it's time to actually change your opinion?
>>337101187
There is offensive value in being able to make key picks. That aside, each of these heroes has an ultimate that's pretty helpful on offense.
Still, I agree. Even considering these things they can struggle to deliver offensive value. Whenever I see two people on offense in a sniper pissing match with each other I want to die.
And I do, repeatedly, because I'm basically down two teammates.
>>337101289
>I took Dota 2 because it's one of the bigger ones people here would most likely recognize.
But it's not
LoL is the go-to MOBA
Dota 2 is for grognards
The fact that they're the only game in the genre in which ultimates can be passives is the only reason you used it as an example, because every other MOBA uses ultimates as an "awesome button"
>>337101187
>we're on the offensive
>the only one on the offensive
>whole team stays far back hoping for pics all fucking game
These people really need to get off this game.
>>337099974
>reflects twin dragon ult from Hanzo
holy fuck
>>337084482
>gains 200% mobility
He doesn't actually gain mobility.
>>337097748
give some tips on playing zarya i guess.
shield people just as they alt i guess?
her left click seems pretty weak, right click best?
>>337084482
holy shit hes Yasuo god damnit
>mfw I reflect the pink-haired dyke of gravity's ultimate back into her team
>>337097893
better?
>>337101693
you do more damage with your laser the more the shields you put up get hit
>>337101183
You draw comparisons to dumb something down to make it easier to understand. It's called an analogy.
How about you stick to the subject matter and tell me what makes Bastion (the thing we discussed) so incredibly deep?
Or are you telling me you're incapable of doing so? That you want me to start talking about something else you can try and look for issues with? That you can point fingers at and create red herrings with?
I won't bother with another reply to you unless you tell me what makes Bastion so deep, since you seem to disagree with me that he's a shallow hero
>>337101091
>I find that hard to believe. Every argument you've made has indicated that you don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah totally, based on nothing. How about countering my argumetns over resorting to logical fallacies? Or is that too difficult? Is it too difficult to stay on topic and discuss Overwatch in an Overwatch thread?
How about you instead go on and elaborate on what makes you think makes this game so incredibly deep when Blizzard even intentionally designed it for the opposite?
This isn't even a case of easy-to-learn-hard-to-master, because absolutely no hero, mechanic, mode or map takes extensive time and thought to get good at.
Most heroes are incredibly shallow. Heroes like Bastion for example are a friggin joke.
Some of the more "deeper" ones like Mei mostly boil down to how you use your wall, which really doesn't take much though at all.
Genji is also one of the "deeper" heroes but really beyond knowing how he can traverse around some maps with his mobility and basic stuff like animation canceling your melee attack with Swift Strike which I figured out while testing the hero out in the tutorial, what more depth to the hero is there?
I grew bored with the game because of how shallow it was. I was actually excited that I would be able to play the beta for almost a week, but I stopped playing after 2 days of about 8 hours total of playing due to the lack of depth
>>337101716
HASAGI!!
>>337094445
Source?
>>337101892
>How about you stick to the subject matter and tell me what makes Bastion (the thing we discussed) so incredibly deep?
Bastion is much harder than he looks, especially against a coordinated team
He sees almost no play in competitive OW, outside of a few gimmick strats that involve using Bastion to get a few surprise kills, and then switching to a different hero
A good Bastion will constantly be re-positioning himself, similar to how a sniper plays, lest he become predictable and vulnerable
Now are you going to give me some examples of "deep" games or what?
>>337101357
>The fact that they're the only game in the genre in which ultimates can be passives is the only reason you used it as an example, because every other MOBA uses ultimates as an "awesome button"
Even if that was the case who does that change my point? Or do you think making the game more shallow and dumb is a positive aspect of Overwatch's ways of handling ultimates? That making everything into a charged ultimate is good game design?
Now it's been a while since I played many of the MOBAs I've played, but even Infinite Crisis had heroes like Aquaman with a short cooldown ultimate (around 20 seconds something) that is merely a follow-up to his other skills as a combo or Blue Beetle that had a toggle with no cooldown at all that transformed him between 2 modes, melee and ranged, with different skills.
Really, can you guys try for ONCE to stay on topic and NOT devolve these discussions into red herring logical fallacy shitfests? You people are actually striving to NOT discuss Overwatch in Overwatch threads and this tells you nothing of how utterly weak your arguments are? That just MAYBE you might be wrong? Or is the fear of this too great?
How about actually trying to discuss Overwatch?
>>337102472
>Even if that was the case who does that change my point? Or do you think making the game more shallow and dumb is a positive aspect of Overwatch's ways of handling ultimates?
How can it be more shallow and dumb than literally having a passive as your ultimate? Literally 0 buttons to press and 0 thought involved since it's always on
>>337101294
There's nothing wrong with those heroes
It's just that you know 90% sure that someone who makes those picks at the very start of an offense map is going to be an absolute useless piece of shit. Widowmaker and Hanzo can both be good for clearing out defensive encampments, but in practice they will ALWAYS just sit back and try to snipe people walking towards your spawn. In other words, be completely useless.
Fuck these people. Also fuck Soldier 67 players, the majority of the time they have no clue what to do as well.
Also typical:
>about to lose on a control point map
>overtime is ticking down
>some cunt is just standing near the point and not going on it to extend overtime
>>337101727
What does that say?
>>337099331
McCree can go from top tier all the way to garbage depending on the map.
>>337102754
"LEL"
>>337102000
>A good Bastion will constantly be re-positioning himself, similar to how a sniper plays, lest he become predictable and vulnerable
This is literally the only aspect of the hero that requires any thought, even if it is incredibly minor. If you call this depth then you're literally scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Every single shooter needs you to think about "positioning". This is part of the basics of even playing the game. Same as "I should aim for the weakspot" and calling a game deep because it has headshots or big glowy orange spots you can shoot at for bonus damage.
Even the Overwatch community makes fun of how easy Bastion is to play and how little depth he has, but as soon as someone makes not of this as a flaw of the game or the design then oh boy that can no longer be allowed, Bastion is not an incredibly deep and complex hero that needs thousands of hours of playtime to master.
>Now are you going to give me some examples of "deep" games or what?
Are you this determined to go off topic and shitpost with red herrings?
>>337102849
>Are you this determined to go off topic and shitpost with red herrings?
Why is it so hard to find an example? It would provide a good basis for comparison
>>337102829
Really? I feel like I'm being trolled
>>337102782
glorious 240 res webm
>>337096453
>land a mei ult right in the middle of 5 people in the last 30 seconds of the match
>headshot them all
>bastion holding left click at chokepoint gets potg
REEEE
>>337100225
McCree might be OP on consoles with autoaim, but he really doesn't seem that powerful on pc.
He just has no mobility, dies quickly and his only defense option is e>rmb.
>>337102754
its the kanji for the phrase "おまえがおかまだ”
>>337100225
you gotta get in peoples faces and catch them off guard if you wanna do any decent damage
>Hanzos everywhere
>two Hanzos in my team
>both absolute dead weight
>Almost always lose games with Hanzo in my team
>They always get play of the game because of that lame ass dragon ultimate
>>337102538
>How can it be more shallow and dumb than literally having a passive as your ultimate? Literally 0 buttons to press and 0 thought involved since it's always on
Because it can tie directly into the kit of the character. It allows for greater freedom in terms of hero design.
You can design a skillset that is focused on several low cooldown skills, including your ultimate that has direct synergy with those skills. You can make it have a really long cooldown or no cooldown at all.
But when you lock ultimates into only being charged ultimates that limits the design aspect and in some cases it can't even fit as a charged ultimate, like with Symmetra.
Symmetra's ult is a teleporter that you have to charge up over time. It also gets destroyed after a set number of uses by your team. Her ult meter does not charge while a teleporter is up as well. You also can't start by placing down a teleporter. All of this is because it's a charged ultimate.
This means that on defense maps you might very well not even get your ult in time to use it before the first objective falls, when it would've actually been useful. This is especially true on payload maps where the objective keeps moving, meaning you don't want to waste this charged ultimate by placing by a point that will shortly be passed by the moving objective because it might see almost no use. Heck you might just put up your teleporter shortly before the point going down and your ult will not charge until the teleporter is down again.
You can elaborate on this along much farther than this, but this alone proves how flawed their current ultimate design is by locking ot to a charged ult. This honestly feels poorly thought out because it most likely was.
>>337103389
>Because it can tie directly into the kit of the character.
League of Legends solved that problem by just having a 5th slot for a passive
There is no skill, depth, or thought involved in having your big game-changing ability be a passive that's always on
Dotards go away
>>337102897
Even TF2 has more depth than Overwatch (just compare Torbjörn with Engineer) and people often made fun of it, especially when it comes to the competitive scene. Even Evolve despite being a massive fucking failiure had more depth than Overwatch.
Now keep in mind that Blizzard wants Overwatch to become an esport and go competitive.
>>337103582
And it will, because esports success isn't based off of some imaginary metric of "depth" that is defined by grognards on /v/
>>337103486
>League of Legends solved that problem by just having a 5th slot for a passive
Except that forces every single character to have a passive and doesn't change my point either. The currenct ultimate system in Overwatch limits the game design and creativity.
>Dotards go away
I don't even play Dota anymore, nor do I particularly like it. But I see you're determined to shitpost because you can't accept that Overwatch has problems in design and isn't perfect.
God forbid you actually leave that echo chamber you're in.
>>337103708
>The currenct ultimate system in Overwatch limits the game design and creativity.
But it doesn't
Every ult is different, and a game-changer in their own way
It's like if every character in TF2 had their own version of an uber-charge
>>337103682
>And it will
Because Activision Blizzard will force it, not because it would be good.
It's the exact same problem Evolve and many other games have. They want to force esports right out of the gate instead of focusing on making a great game. If the game was good and complex enough then the community could very well make an esport out of it, but it should be a byproduct, not a goal. Especially when your entire game is designed on being accessible, simple and target the casual audience.
>>337103871
>Because Activision Blizzard will force it, not because it would be good.
But it's good, and it already had lots of tournaments in closed beta
People are excited for this game and want it to be an esport
>>337103793
>But it doesn't
I literally just posted an example with Symmetra and additionally explained the limitations of the current system.
You chose to not reply to it since you have no counter argument. This simple fact means that you can't, but don't want to admit it.
You're a person stuck in this echo chamber mentality, that as soon as his ideas are challenged he doesn't question them like a sensible person would.
This kind of mentality is even made fun of in friggin Simpsons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMqZ2PPOLik
If you repeatedly have to change the subject, avoid or whatever an idea, then did it ever occur to you that said idea might not hold up and you might actually have to change your opinion? Or have you never been wrong, ever?
>>337104165
>I literally just posted an example with Symmetra and additionally explained the limitations of the current system.
No, you really haven't been, which is why I've only been quoting the relevant parts of anything you post
>>337104165
You realize that you're more like Principal Skinner than anyone else, right?
>>337102754
It says 武神, which means 'God of war'
>>337095402
>Try to play Mercy
>She's actually pretty weak and a mediocre TF2 Medic without UBER
>Play Lucio
>He's bullshit OP healing / speed wise but the most boring piece of shit ever created
>Play Symmertra
>Immediately stop playing Symmertra (Holy jesus)
>Play Zen
>Always busy, can deal damage, fantastic debuff, longest range single target heal, UBER Ult with perfect push / counterpush AoE healing
>Higher skillcap is good but 150 HP and no mobility make him too flimsy and Widowmaker (1 every game guaranteed) bodies him
Support rolls feels kind of bad, Zen's the only fun one but fairly weak while the most boring one is easily the strongest.
I mean a Lucio is effectively idiot proof, a human and a hard mode AI would have about the same effect on a pub match.
>>337103948
>But it's good
It's mediocre and not living up the potential it had. There is tons of room for improvement and the fact that what we played a few days ago is the final version (apart from the addition of some kind of ranked mode) is pretty staggering.
Don't get me wrong, I had this game pre-ordered and I was really looking forward to it and was even optimistic about this game and defended it when people said they wanted it to be F2P and so on. But the game is just too lacking when it coems to so many things that I even got bored with it before the beta period was over.
This is very frustrating becase I can see the potential there for something truly great. This is why I am voicing my frustration over all the issues the game has which I wish they could address or at least improve upon. But what I'm met by ITT are people unwilling to accept that the game isn't perfect and stuck in echo chamber mentalities, which just sucks any and all hope I have for this game ever living up to the potential it had, because the community simply doesn't care. Which is a damn shame.
Well whatever, enjoy Overwatch and keep plugging your ears then.
>>337104653
>It's mediocre and not living up the potential it had.
That's, like, your opinion, man
>>337104534
you do know Mercy has a damage boost with ALT-Fire?
She also has crazy mobility as long as you have LoS and with a bit of range tether to your allies. You literally can stay in the air with Pharah as long as you like, zip back to the other teammate heal him, zip back to airborne Pharah like fucking spider-man or io
>>337096959
>spending $40 on it
>not spending 2.19 for a large pepsi at Taco Bell and winning the game plus headset
first time i ever won anything and i love this game
>>337104232
Stay in the echo chamber then.
>>337104302
I'm not the one refusing to actually discuss and challenge his ideas.
I'm entirely open to being proven wrong and learn, but you peope don't even attempt to do so. You basically respond with shit like "hurrr u r wrong idiot!" over actually elaborating and discussing the subject and proving me wrong with arguments, facts and reasoning. Doing so would also reaffirm that YOUR idea is probably correct.
But when you completely avoid the discussion entirely and come up with excuses or insults instead that merely proves that YOU'RE Skinner. That you're the one in the echo chamber.
I always question if what I think is right or wrong, which is why I choose to discuss it to test it out. Do you? So far it doesn't seem like it.
>>337104653
>ago is the final version (
blizzard supports their releases for a very long time, just look at diablo3, I go back to it whenever a season starts and everyone is always wondering just why is it that blizzard keeps supporting the game, something like a year ago people were thinking that maybe they are planning to make an expansion and are trying to maintain player numbers, but its been 2 years since RoS released and there are still regular patches and changes
>>337104718
I know these things yet still recognize her as weak.
>>337104936
You still haven't provided an example of a "deep" game to use as a point of comparison
Sounds to me like you're afraid that you'll get exposed
>Volstaya industries defense
>we have 4 Torbjorns
>die while running around shooting niggas
>respawn
>10 seconds remaining on the clock
>enemy starts bumrushing the point while I'm walking back to the point
>5 kills in a row, round over
>>337104696
Yes it is and I have backed it up with arguments and examples that have yet to be proven wrong.
The thing here though is that people are unable to accept that they can enjoy something despite it not being perfect, despite it being flawed.
Many of my favorite games or games I enjoyed immensely are very flawed games and I could easily list tons of improvements for said games. I don't turn a blind eye to the issues it has while still being able to enjoy it.
But maybe I just expected to much out of current Blizzard. I should probably set my bar much much lower after fiascos like Diablo 3, HotS and SC2 (I got all of these games mind you).
>>337105173
>Yes it is and I have backed it up with arguments and examples that have yet to be proven wrong.
No, you really haven't
>>337104993
>blizzard supports their releases for a very long time, just look at diablo3
They didn't even deliver on their promises of Diablo 3. For example PvP was never implemented.
Diablo 3 was always bad, it was the expansion that addressed many of the issues with the core game.
That still doesn't change the fact that Overwatch doesn't even remotely feel like a finished game and I understand why some people think it should've been F2P or priced lower than 40/60 bucks.
>>337105110
If you read the thread you would have seen it already. So try that approach next time. Reading.
Even so, me mentioning other games was completely pointless and irrelevant since it detracts from the main discussion in favor of providing bait for red herring posters such as yourself.
>>337105385
>If you read the thread you would have seen it already.
I have been reading the thread, and I've seen you just run away from it or hide it among pretentious shit
>>337105270
Yeah handwave all of my wall of text posts away to reaffirm that echo chamber mentality.
Don't ever challenge your ideas or question yourself, Skinner.
>>337105453
No you haven't, read it again. I see no point in repeating myself.
Do you need to be spoonfed or something so you can post your red herring post faster for bonus echo chamber points?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ugJZXlA0oM&feature=youtu.be
Heh genji ant shit.
>>337105459
>Yeah handwave all of my wall of text posts away to reaffirm that echo chamber mentality.
The only people in the echo chamber are the ones that are convinced Overwatch will fail and throw out meaningless buzzwords like "depth"(which they don't define because they never post any examples of games with actual depth)
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