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What the fuck went wrong?
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>2016
>oh dude lets bring back a series of games that was ONCE popular haha and guys lets name it "Doom" like the original! haha this is such an original idea right guys? haha please buy our game old Doom fans please


garbage
absolute garbage formulas and companies who do that should be ashamed of themselves
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>>337072829

You making this thread with a shit meme that's what.
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maybe just trying too hard?

I'm not sure. I did some alpha testing for this game and got paid, so that was nice. But I thought it was pretty shit. Nothing new nor exciting about it.
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end me

end life as we know it
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>You will never play real Doom 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueRjbYdcXbs

Consoles have only made our lives crueler.
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>>337073820
Probably not in the game. Doom 4 will be slow shit like the multiplayer. Stop posting this.
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>>337073994
a man can pipedream
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>>337073994
>slow shit

When will this meme die?

new DOOM looks fun
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>>337072829
You got older
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>>337072829
what we are seeing is what happens when producers instead of game designers decide what's in a game.
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>>337074531
>will this meme die?
>uses the fun meme
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We want the Call of Duty audience - who are also the entirety of the shooter market young and old.
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>>337072829
Did you know you had the option to make your own opinions about a game when it's actually released without the influence of tard threads?
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>>337074602
>cherrypicking.jpg

why are SJWs such fucking shills?
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Its looks good
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>>337074602
>play as Master Chief
>fighting demons that are stupidly colored to pander to fans
>using a variety of shitty weapons with universal ammo
>where there's a shitty plot with a robot antagonist to interrupt you
>as you play a cramped corridor single player and slow as fuck multiplayer mode
>with console metered action and weapon reloading
>and cutting-edge graphics because its a tech demo
>with limited tools to allow console players to create their own """maps""" by copying and pasting resources
>it's 2016 and they're shitting on a game that was perfected in the 90s, so it helps us realize gaming has gone to shit
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>>337072983
agreed. its just fucking rehashing for a younger audience who haven't seen it before
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>>337073820
looks fun
hopefully it actually ends up like that
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>>337074531
t. guy who wasn't around when Doom 1 came out
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>>337074602

This.

Doom by today's standards is boring as fuck and not particularly good but people heap praise on it because of tradition and innovation. Even a 1-to-1 Doom remake with modern tech would get middling sales at best, and most of those sales would come from people who had played Doom already. It's basically Pong at this point, no longer resonates with a modern audience, and is strictly worst than the games it inspired.
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>>337072829
They pandered to multiplayer people instead of it having the best shooting in hell ever.
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>>337074602
>toot
>fast action
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>>337072829
no new ideas
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>comes out friday

is it that time already
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>>337072829
nothing went wrong it looks great you fucking faggot.
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>>337075418
Of course a 1:1 Doom remake would get middling sales. To be honest, so would a game that is clearly meant to be a successor to Doom (this most recent one is not.) There's very little universal appeal for Doom-type gameplay today, it'd be a niche title. From a business standpoint, they're making the right call appealing to a new audience, but I'm not exactly sure it's going to catch on there either.
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>>337075014
>gaming has gone to shit

when will this meme end
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>>337073994

This is what bothers me a lot, did uncapping the framerate make it fast because it's one of those shit engines made for consoles and messing with the fps fucks the gameplay?

I just dont see why the multiplayer should be slower than the single player, both had looked slow as shit until the 1080gtx announcement.
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>>337075505
>I haven't watched any footage aside from the initial trailers
Fix up your post for you faggot.
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>>337074602
>faceless
>FACELESS

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
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>>337072829
Calm the fuck down you autistic nigger. It hasn't even went yet.
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>>337075821
from what they've shown it just seems like a boring game
at least rage had a fairly unique setting for an fps, cool gadgets and MEGATEXTURES

i dont even see how the new doom is a AAA game.. the scope of it is so small.. i hope they're just keeping most of it under wraps
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>>337075921
I literally played the beta. I guess it's considered "fast" for you millennials, since the only fps you know of is COD.
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>>337075418

sure its not relevant by today's standards but show me a modern fps that has

Maze levels
Fast movement
7 weapons at once
Shit ton of enemies at once

Go on ill wait, consoles brought with them a fucking shitty linear gameplay that has tainted the industry for a long time, games are no longer made by gamers but by corporate shills. Same reason why DOOM is now trying to be a fucking Halo.
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>>337074705
>calling some a sjw because they like something different than you

Wee lad.
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>>337074602
>faceless

He hasn't even played it. it's right on the bottom of the screen
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Is this shit on Blackcats yet? Haven't been home to long on for a few days and check myself.
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>>337076137
yeah it seems like something that one of those Slav studios like the Serious Sam guys could have made, except it looks a lot more boring than those games. it's probably pretty low budget and they're spending a lot on marketing to try to make a big profit. i hope.
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>>337076231
>played the shitty multiplayer that id software didn't even develop

Of course, it's not like Certain Affinity has a good track record of developing multiplayer gamemodes and I'd call id out on being lazy and not just doing the multiplayer themselves.
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>more after more bombs
>games becoming more disposable every year
>many major franchises are rapidly decreasing in popularity
>console .5 updates

crash soon
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>>337072983

This shit has been announced right after Doom 3 came out, so your "point" or whenever doesn't even apply here.
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it's pathetic how adamantly /v/ hates modern games and assumes that because you guys don't like them they're not successful with literally everyone else

shouldn't you guys be on /vr/?
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>>337075418
>Doom by today's standards is boring as fuck and not particularly good
WHEN
WILL
THIS
MEME
END
The original Doom and Doom 2 are STILL some of the best experiences you can have in the entire genre, and have an OCEAN of high quality player content.

The same CAN NEVER be said about D44M because there is no support for player content other than their shitty custom maps system.
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>There are people ITT defending Doom 4

So this is the future of /v/ huh?
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>>337075418
The only FPS better than Doom 1 is Blood. Not sure where you're getting the "worse than its successors" shit from. Games like Duke 3D, Shadow Warrior, Quake and Unreal are close, but it's all downhill after that. A recreation of Doom with new levels in this day and age would be amazing because of how shit the genre has become.
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>>337072829
that

it's another shooter designed for consoles with low skill ceiling and dumbed down for the latest generations. Also just a mix of FPS games hoping people cash in on the name.
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>>337076590
future of every popular messageboard

it's impossible to contain shills and those that spread virals inadvertently.
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>>337073820

>That FOV

Holy shit, it's like trying to look through a glass orb. Turn that shit down.
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>>337076561
you aren't actually retarded enough to think it was in development since then? Of course they aren't just gonna say they're not doing another game after one comes out. They want to leave that possibility.
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>>337075418
go to /vr/ and tell them that,
seriously go
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>>337076031
It's the easiest way to signify the Doomguy's health.
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>>337076234
or maybe devs wanted to make different kinds of games since they already made that before
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who /multiplayer-open-beta-was-fun-as-fuck/ here?
Sure it's not on par with something crazy techincal like Quake or UT but I still had lots of fun.
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>>337074602
>Cracked
>A mediocre MAD wannabe turned cuck clickbait

lol
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Why didn't they get Splash Damage to do multiplayer?

An Enemy Territory: Doom Edition would've been better than COD/Halo with Agitating Skeletons.
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Can we make a rule here to purposely Derail any thread involving shilling? it's getting out of hand
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>>337076590
right we need more senseless hate
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>>337076590
I honestly think it looks good, but there's no way in Hell I'm paying money for this. I've been burnt by Bethesda way too many fucking times to know you never pay full price for their games.
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>>337076590
yea youre right anon! We should all have one opinion and one opinion only!

You're a genius anon, no one can find out we like NORMIE games the NORMIES play. We have to pretend to be edgy and counterculture!
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>>337076564

>modern fps

They are trash, just because you grew up with halo it doesn't make it good. Things went worse after the cinematic experience took over, now not only you have an incredibly shallow gameplay but you its tagged along 30fps, terrible stories and no mods.

I still remember when people were shitting on the dlc horses from the elder scrolls, nowadays people give 15 bucks for 4 maps that would have been free a few years ago.

Fuck, today's gaming industry is just pure garbage.
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>>337076381
it does look low budget and shitted out, despite what the marketing would have you believe

im assuming they're putting most resources toward Rage 2 and making it a proper AAA release
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>>337075857
You can make yourself faster with the skill system or whatever it is.
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>>337072983
>oh dude lets bring back a series of games that was ONCE popular haha and guys lets name it "Doom" like the original! haha this is such an original idea right guys? haha please buy our game old Doom fans please
I fucking hate this shit so much now. I refuse to buy into any of these obvious cashgrabs. Not just games but movies, tv, everything these days. People are just less creative and more greedy, trying to milk shit for as much as they can.
Like star wars, of course disney wants to milk it as much as they can, the new shit? It's not canon at all, they can claim all they want but it's just another cashgrab. The only way to end this is to put a firm foot down on the matter.
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>>337076878
Like how loli threads derailed by spiderman images? sounds like a good idea but i dont think it will happen.
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>>337072829
nothing really, still looks fun as fuck.

>then again, I thought DOOM3 was great until replaying it recently

still buying it because nothing really comes out that is mindless timekilling fun until Shadow Warrior 2 comes out.
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>>337076590
It actually looks like a Doom game compared to Doom 3 you faggot. It's true that Bethesda has a lot of shills on /v/ but this isn't a reason to shit on everything.
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>>337076820

Pretty sure they want your money alongside all the 12 yo's that grew up on cod and halo.
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>>337076854
UT99 isn't even "crazy technical". It was just a good game with weapon pickups and actual satisfying and powerful weapons.
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>>337076590
>REE WHY CAN'T WE ONLY ALLOW ONE OPINION
if the game is good then so be it, I won't buy it on release but I want an objective view of the game when it releases, not senseless hate or love
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>>337077120
>DOOM's shotgun
>not satisfying and powerful
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>>337077089
Shh, don't bring truth near those shills. they are allergic to it
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>>337072983
at least they didn't try to ruin Commander Keen
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>>337077089
id shills BTFO
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>>337077023
>skill system

I bet my virgin ass its the exact same thing as TNO, aka a placebo skill system with upgrades you're going to unlock anyway by playing the campaign, with a few totally unecessery upgrades that dont do shit and are almost impossible to unlock like the 'kill 10 enemies with one grenade' or some shit like that from TNO

why do they insist on putting that crap in what should be a pure fps I just dont get it.
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>>337077160
shhhh this is /v/
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>>337077302
yeah I know, but goddammit I want to at least try
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>>337077089
>Top Left
Homefront
>Top Right
Halo Reach
>Middle
Crysis 2
>Bottom Left
Black Ops
>Bottom right
Killzone 3.

Give me a challenge.
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>>337072829
Trying to do what was done with Wolfenstein: The New Order.
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>>337072829
/v/ is full of memes and opinions and you are just another fag that jumped on the meme bandwagon. If you actually look at recent gameplay you wouldn't shitpost like the kike meister you are.

Why not just wait until Friday and look at some videos of the game and find out for yourself if it is good.
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>>337077449
TNO was great though
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DERAIL THE FUCKING THREAD. THE SHILLS HAVE TAKEN THIS BOARD FOR VIRAL MARKETING
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>>337077457

Because /v/ doesn't buy games they sit around and complain about there not being a crack yet
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>>337077280
adds depth
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>>337077280
you'd be surprised, people will power through games they dont like just to get the next rank. just look at ASSFAGGOTS
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>>337077573
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http://tootz.ytmnd.com/
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>>337075418
>Modernized doom would not be fun
Kek.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzYliSASKc
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>>337072829
>it's another d44m hate thread
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So many newfag game journalists keep calling ID "id" and not "eye-dee" too.
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>>337074602
>tumblr kiddies literally can't understand how the two games are different
I like how they don't talk about any of the actual mechanics, they just give vague similarities the two games share.
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>>337076242
didn't call anybody a sjw
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>>337078503
>indie pixelshit
no thanks
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>>337075418
>Doom by today's standards is boring as fuck and not particularly good
That must be why shitloads of people still play it and there's still new fanmade content being made for it over 20 years later, right?
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>>337078653
(you)
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>>337074531
it is slow. On consoles at least, if that video is anything to go by, maybe PC users will have a better experience.

>>337074602
I've never been so triggered.
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>>337072829
Bethesda made it
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>>337074602
>You can see a picture of his face on the fucking screen
>I guess
>2 at a time
>Multiplayer wasn't the focus
>Nope
>Nope
>Sure
>DERP
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>>337078503
>Brutal Doom
every fucking time there's one of these guys shilling it
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>>337074602
Why does Rowntree trigger me so much?
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>>337072829
stfu and eat shit /v/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfnhMX5kZ6E
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>>337079938
post more
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>>337079938
Do you want to be inside that shark girls belly?
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>>337072829

its not a pc exclusive using the doom engine
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>>337077271
honestly I would kill for a 3D platformer reboot
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>>337077967
>/pol/ is bigger than /a/, /tv/, and /co/

I both do and don't believe this.
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>>337080059
anytime
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>>337072829
It became a brand.
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>>337076756
>turning down FOV
fuck off, bro
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>>337076756

>Playing under 120 FOV in any circumstance ever

Kill yourself, consolecuck
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>>337076756
fucking console peasant
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to all the shills in this thread.

How much did they pay you?
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>taking aspects from other popular shooters and mashing it all together
It's still gonna be good by todays standards it's just a shame it has all the modern bullshit attached...
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>>337080937
>shilling in a shithole like /v/

facekike, tumblr, twitter and co is where you can find real shill.
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>>337077024
>Like star wars, of course disney wants to milk it as much as they can, the new shit? It's not canon at all, they can claim all they want but it's just another cashgrab.
Disney spent $4 billion on the Star Wars label. The Force Awakens alone made $2 billion. Of course they're going to factory produce Star Wars and Marvel movies every year. DC had their chance to stop Marvel with BVS but all that did was fuck their own shared universe!
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>>337077271
>>337080287
>3d platformer keen reboot
too bad bethesda owns it and nobody remembers keen
spiritual successor maybe?
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>>337078503
>>337079090
>>337079524

i dont get it I mean obviously brutal doom is
1 not doom
2 not doom
3 easier than doom
4 not the way doom was intended to be played

but

i was in elementary school when doom came out, I loved doom, it took me like 2 years to beat doom II without cheating.

That said? I fucking love playing brutal doom because its FUCKING ENJOYABLE. Its a whimsical gorefest that almost feels the way doom felt to me when i was a kid, I KNOW ITS NOT, but its nostalgic in a silly kind of way. Some of you MUST actually like it a little right?
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>>337081336
Cool unrelated slideshow bra
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>>337079090
>Not recognizing a fucking Doom mod
>Not recognizing fucking Doom 1-2 in a thread complaining about new Doom
Are you 12?
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>>337072829
Nothing, I liked the beta quite a lot, actually.
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>>337080297
/pol/ is literally the Donald Trump Fan Club. Of course it's fast as shit now. It's already surpassed the post count of much older boards.
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>>337081876
it's shocking that only /b/ and /v/ are faster than /pol/, holy shit man.
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>>337081876
Those threads are fun as all hell, though, especially during Trump rallies.
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just a reminder
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>>337082334
This is stupidly accurate.
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>>337072829
JUST
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Did anyone reupload that video of the first level from earlier?
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>>337076814
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>>337080407
Sauce?
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>>337076857

Underrated post
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>>337073994
its in the game senpai
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>>337073994
>Stop posting this
I AGREE DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>337079015
>its a blind man goes to 4chan episode
both games have no weapon limit, reloading, regenerating health, or iron sights.
you're retarded
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>>337079394
do you understand the difference between a publisher and a developer?
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>>337072829
>What the fuck went wrong?
I'm still trying to figure this out honestly. I guess they saw how popular brutal doom is with all the gore and decided to bring doom back for a current gen audience. But they seem to be unaware that cinematic kills in brutal doom were an optional mode from a rare pickup, so it didn't make them repetitive. In doom 4 the cinematic kills are the focus and can be done to every enemy for free when they have low health.

Level design being linear for casuals of course means health/ammo pickups were going to drop from enemies, there was no avoiding that outcome. But its a shame this game is being made in the first place. At least doom 3 tried to be something different and not a money grab.
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>>337072829
Money, Shareholders, and the results of when those 2 get involved in a games development direction.
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>>337073820
He's really suck at playing them
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>>337083395
read the filename maybe?
here if you want sharkpussy
http://shnider.deviantart.com/art/Shark-Anthro-254715464
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>>337083837
the levels looked pretty big
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>>337072983
>absolute garbage formulas
>formula
And suddenly the problem comes into focus. These new games aren't re-makes, they're re-designs. If ANY of the remakes stayed true to the atmosphere and style of the original, they'd succeed.
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>>337084596
>no weapon limit
>no reloading
>huge maps
>no iron sights
>no regenerating health
>plenty of enemy variations
can you explain how its different?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO6ZfHs6qsE
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>>337072829
Everything
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>>337074602
>True Doom
>Marine is faceless

I mean, I know this is from Cracked so the clickbait is to be expected, but this still gets me. There are people who legitimately think like this,
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>>337076878
shilling?
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>>337078565
>It's a Haloom will be good post
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>its a "GUUUUUUUUUYS DOOM WILL BE SO GOOD TRUUUUUUUUUST ME GUUUUUYS QUIT CRYING GUUUYS" episode
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>>337085096
gr8 argument. lol jk
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>>337077271
imma go play Keen IV again now.
Love that shit.
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I just found this a few minutes ago. He plays like shit btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJpTpgdl10
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>>337074602
You never get your ass to Mars in the original games. Only Phobos, Deimos, Hell then Earth.
Carked can fuck off.
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>>337072829

1) Too much focus on multiplayer. There are a gorillian fucking shooters out there with multiplayer. DOOM didn't need it to be the primary selling point. For fucks sake, I just want to kill some goddamn cyber demons. Fuck the multiplayer.
2) They somehow made RIP AND TEAR not fun.
3) Doomguy's armor looks like shit ripped straight out of halo.
4) Not enough blood and gore.
5) Look at the fucking gameplay trailers. There's nowhere near enough demons on screen at any one time.
6) Dumbed down for console kiddies. CoD/Halo with demons.
7) Not enough blood and gore.
8) The shotgun is fucking garbage. It's supposed to be the DOOM equivalent of a Swiss army knife.
9) Plasma gun is also fucking garbage.
10) Not. Enough. Blood. And. Gore.
11) The multiplayer should just be dropping a series of identical looking people into an arena with nothing but a pistol and letting them fight for weapon pickups and shit. None of that stupid fucking loadout trash and customizable armor nonsense.
12) Movement speed is too fucking slow.

Just play Brutal Doom instead.
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Just think, if it succeeds financially, we get a Quake reboot. Bethesda ARE that kind of company.
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>>337088487
Won't play. Did zenimax shills get to it already?
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This board is salvageable garbage. You guys make me sick, talking shit about classic Doom. You deserve whatever turd Bethedsa-Id pushes out of its colon.

almost 30, oldfag Doom fan here but I do hope Doom 4 has a fun campaign. I'm not getting my hopes up but if it was good that would make me happy
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>>337089771
unsalvageable garbage*
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>>337089517
Must have, it looked like shit. Not a good thing if they're killing any early gameplay views, think how much the leaks helped Deus Ex: Human Revolution; the opposite looks to be applying here.
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>>337072829
They couldn't decide if they wanted an oldschool shoooter or not, so we have a compromise with SOME oldschool elements like no reloading, keycards, lots of weapons, but then you have modern cancer like perks, glory kills, canned animation etc.

Really, if this game wasn't called Doom, I think more people would be fine with it, but oh, gotta appeal to the kids. "Doom? Oh I heard that game is pretty hardcore, I might just pick up the new one so I'm also hardcore"
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>>337088487
What the fuck is up with the music? It's a bunch of fart noises.
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>>337084995
Fine I'll bite
>perks
>glory kills
>weapon upgrades
>suit upgrades
>melee and chainsaw are canned animations
>corpses disappear
>enemies mostly spawn in
>music isn't as good as the original (from what I've heard at least)
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>>337076234
>Maze levels
this is all i fucking want. where is my good level design?
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>>337088487
>that part where he gets lost and sounds bored until he finally finds the last two enemies he needs to kill to advance hiding in the corner of the map

Tying map progression to killing monsters outside of situations with small constricted areas or parts where there's a clear boss fight is really dumb
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>>337091715
So no Nightmare mode now, then.
Modern game developers cannot into level design.
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Does /v/ play UT2k4?
https://youtu.be/x5IcWq3e8N0
[/spoiler]Don't feel like making a thread for this
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>>337088487
>player jumps on a slanted wall and starts running from there to escape
>enemy jumps in and pushes up against him from below
>becomes unable to move and dies, player sounds pissed as fuck and starts ranting

lmao

Also, there are many times where he starts running away and he gets killed from behind and you don't even know what it was. The sound design in this game is weak as fuck, projectiles don't make a sound as they fly past the player and if the enemies do produce noise when they launch projectiles, I can't hear them.
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so were all those "die hard old school id shooter fans" that saw this at quakecon last year or the year before and tried to hype up everyone on earth just paid shills or what?
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>>337075014
>All sci fi is Halo
why are you so fucking stupid?
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>>337076589
>Doom and Doom 2 are STILL some of the best experiences you can have
And those games aren't made by today's standards. When will you learn to fucking read?
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>>337093679
Your average /v/irgin has a learning disability that makes them unable to realize that people can actually hold different opinions to them. That's why they jump to the conclusion that everyone who disagrees with them is a shill. Don't take it seriously.
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>>337072983
>Ugh, why do companies do this? It's so stupid!
>Boy, I really wish another Crash Bandicoot would come out.
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>>337077457
>defends mountain dewm cash in edition
>calls other kike meisters
lmfao atm family
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Okay, a couple of questions amongst the shitposting.

1. The year you were born
2. When did you first play a Doom game
3. What do you really think about Doom 4

Be honest, you have no one to lie to but yourself.

1992
Around 1999, played Quake a year before
I think it will be alright, don't care about MP
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>>337093798

Not that guy but played Doom and Doom 2 recently and loved them. An indie game like this with some updated aesthetics low tech would do very well this day and age, but why bother when Doom has a huge community still?
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>>337094031
1. 1992
2. This year actually
3. Looks like shit
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>>337088353
The first level music reminds me of remove kebab
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>>337094031

1. 1991
2. 2 years ago (actually sitting down and playing all the episodes from start to finish) 1998 being vague memories of the shareware episode
3. Button prompts look stupid as fuck, no matter how fast they make the game it's stupid that you have to watch an animation play out just because you want to melee something.

Also probably thinking it'll be slower to boot up as Doom 1 recently just became a game to load up and relieve stress sort of like my personal tetris/smartphonegame. Just click the source port exe and spam enter a few times and bam you're in the game with a pistol. Something doom 4 won't have.
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>>337094031
1: 1989
2: honestly can't remember, Doom was one of the earliest vidya I remember playing. Used to play with my dad all the time.
3: I'm looking forward to Doom 4 purely for the SP campaign. I'm also hoping the devs will get their heads in order and release proper modding tools. To be honest though I'm expecting to shelf the game forever after one or two playthroughs just like Doom 3 and go back to Ultimate Doom and Doom 2.
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>>337082334
Isn't this the faggot constantly posted in LOL threads because everything they draw is mega retarded?
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>>337075418
God I fucking hate you please go die
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>>337072829
idk yet, havent gotten the game

looks cool, hope it doesnt suck :)
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>>337072829

Bethesda touched it.

Now I don't want to touch it. Little baby kids who play elder scrolls and fallout scrolls don't know what doom is, and would rather play other shooters with characters, guns, and enemies that're actually familiar with.

So to appeal to the mass market of children, they made it really fucking slow, and added super juvenile brutal doom bullshit that not even the kids think is cool.

Because of the previously mentioned Bethesda touching, even the brutal doom manchildren don't want to touch it.

It's a game that doesn't appeal to anyone.
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>/v/ shits on nu-DOOM
>yet defends DOOM 3 like it's DOOM 1

And that right there is why I don't take anyone seriously on here. DOOM 3 was a complete bastardization of DOOM that took the run and gun formula, and slowed it the fuck down. nu-Doom has flaws, but it will never be as bad as DOOM: tryhard spooky edition.
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>>337094031
1995
2015 I think
Could be a decent 7/10 like WolfTNO
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>>337094031

1) 1984
2) Doom Shareware
3) Multiplayer played like ass, and while the action scenes in the game looked somewhat fast paced, I'm afraid what I saw at the campaign presentation stream is going to follow a strict, linear formula. (Story, action scene in a confined space, story, rinse repeat)
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>>337094891
I think DOOM 3 is trash, but I guess I forgot that /v/ is one person
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>>337094672
I know menus are really complicated to use but you can just turn off the executions.
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>>337095007
You've been misinformed, it's only the highlighting that you can turn off.
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>>337095007
You're still playing a game from devs that think lazy finishers are good gameplay
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>>337094891
It's a consistent cycle that's held common among almost all franchises. /v/ considers the newest iteration to be shit, the previous one to be acceptable but not great, the one before that to be the greatest damn thing on planet earth, and the one before that to be overglorified shit that only oldfags defend.

As soon as a new sequel comes out, the whole thing shifts over by one. Seriously somebody screencap this, because as soon as Doom 5 is announced, Doom 3 will be hailed by most of /v/ as one of the greatest shooters to ever exist and Doom 4 will be considered okay.
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>>337095007

I don't want stupid executions.
I don't want QTEs.
I don't want sneak attack instant-kills.
I don't want all the edgy shit from brutal doom.

It's a dumb mod made for manchildren.

I don't know why Bethesda thought ripping that shit off and making it into the official doom 4 was a good idea, but they did, and now I have no interest in doom 4.

I don't like that there's about 2 enemies on the screen at any given time.
I don't like how slow everything is. Doomguy, the monsters, their projectiles, opening doors, everything is slow. It's not an FPS issue. It's just fucking slow, because I guess quake, doom, and unreal games require too much from today's audience.
I don't like how underpowered all the guns look and feel.
I don't like about 90% of the updated enemy designs.
I don't like that Doomguy is now wearing master chief's armor.
I don't like the pretend metal and rock music. Fucking get real metal and rock, or don't bother. Do a generic chanting orchestra soundtrack if you can't cough up some dollars to have Pantera, Metallica, or whatever other old man band make some music for you.

In short, this game is ass, and I hate everything it stands for.
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I grew up with Doom 2 for windows 95. Never knew about WADS or mods or anything until I was much older. I played the game from disk for years. It was great and I enjoyed it.

I also played Doom 3 upon release. Another game I was hyped for. I thought it was a solid and fun game, and mods just made it better. Never played the expansion though.

I even had fun with DoomRL. It was a fun idea and a good challenge.

With Doom 4, I'm actually looking forward to it. Sure, it's not the same, but it looks fun. I never cared about speed running the games, so I don't care about the speed. Only thing that bugs me is the enemies dropping health/armor. But I read that can be disabled. So I will get it eventually and will still probably have fun with it.
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>>337094031
1996
Around 2013-2014
It looks ok. Multiplayer was kind of fun but I'm mainly interested in the singleplayer. I'm not expecting the second coming of video game Christ.
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>>337095512
So why not just not play it then?
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>>337095586
What did he mean by this?
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>>337095564
>Only thing that bugs me is the enemies dropping health/armor. But I read that can be disabled.

Yeah, and disabling it will rebalance the item placement in the map. Sure.
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>>337095749
I mean why can't he not just play it? Why shitpost? Why not talk about things he enjoys in other threads? I don't see the point of shitposting.
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>>337075821
This is spot on. It's not that I expect anyone to actually cater to us old doom fans, it's just that I recognize shit when I see it and they're not gonna fool me with this garbage. I'll give it a pirate to try out the single player campain though.
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>>337095790
>game is too hard
I bet you've never even finished a UV run in Doom or Doom 2
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>>337095816
Because /v/ is pretty much just for opinions on video games and it's an upcoming game in a very popular franchise?
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>>337094031
1997
Doom 64 when I was 9 in 06
Lots of stupid shit. Could be decent though.
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>>337095890
I bet you've never beat Doom 2 without picking up medikits, berserker packs and soulspheres. Git gud.
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>>337072829
YOU SHOULD BE BANNED FOR SHITPOSTING I FUCK HATE YOU ALL
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>>337072829
>2016
>corridor shooter
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As someone who played Doom maybe a year or two after it was released, I think this one might turn out alright. Certainly, it won't have the same impact the original had and the upgrade system is straight-up cancer, but running and gunning demons into bloody chunks while hard industrial is blasting out of my speakers - that's all I want.

Not gonna touch the multiplayer, though. That one blows.

My main concern is if my PC can run it properly. Too many games get released unoptimized these days.
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>>337095890
>>337096065
Why does everyone got to get into a dick swinging competition? It's just a game.

>>337095790
What's wrong with item placement? Looked fine from what I saw.
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>>337094031
1. 1991
2. When my older brother got the PS1 version of Doom whenever it came out. Loved watching them play scary games like that or Resident Evil 2. Then we got a used computer that had tons of shareware games on it so I remember playing Wolfenstein 3D and Bio Menace and stuff like that.
3. Not a big fan of the forced glory kill system but I think the game looks pretty enjoyable. But I still enjoy Doom 3, so what do I know.
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>>337079938
that looks amazing. Why didnt they show that in the first place.
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>>337094891
I'm looking forward to the new Doom and I loved Doom 3
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>>337096373

Is that Trent Reznor?
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>>337096610
The one and only.
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>>337094031
1. 1986
2. On a hand me down 386 or 486 (I forget which one it was) PC from my dad. Was like 1995 or 1996 I think.
3. Mixed feelings. I don't care about the multiplayer. I'm not a big multiplayer fan to begin with, and Doom has always been about the single player to me. I get that some modernization had to take place, but I'm worried about some of the more modern features. The melee finishers seem annoying, and if that whole style points thing ends up being true it sounds like we'll be forced to use them fairly often. Also the rumored "locked in an arena until you kill all of the waves of enemies" format sounds awful. If both of those are true I don't expect to like the game much at all. If they aren't true (or are at least exaggerated) then I might enjoy it.
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>>337074602
>First played it in the 90s

Fuck off with this stupid ass logic, I played this for the first time in 2008 because I didn't have a computer back then and never had any intrest in the games.

I enjoyed Doom and I can't fucking understand what people see in D44M. It's literally Halo 4 with Brutal Doom finishers.

>B-But it's n-new and exciting!

It's going to be fallout 4 all over again, hype hype hype and then it vanishes into thin air as the normies move on to the next flavor of the month and E3 2016 hype.
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>>337096378

It's very sporadic. In one part there are a decent amount of health kits in a relaxed encounter and in the next part the game throws barons, revenants, mancubi at you all at once and there's only a pair of medkits tucked away in the corner of the map.

Compare the first arena in this video to the second >>337088487
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>>337094031
1. 1985
2. 1994 at my cousin's
3. mite b cool
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>>337097247
It's probably going to be forgotten about after a month, don't worry about it.
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>>337077967
>/vp/'s populaton

Why do we even have that board anymore when nobody uses it?
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What is the fucking music, so far all I've heard is what sounds like At Doom's Gate being played through large intestines
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>>337094031
>89
>Late 90s, don't remember when exactly, been playing the shit out of Doom ever since
>Looks like a letdown honestly. Its heart is in the right place, they want to make something very similar to the old games, but modern (console) FPS convention prevents them from making something truly faithful. Snap map will probably be shit though.
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>>337096462

>/tv/ crossposter

Preach it birthday boy. Seagalposting is life
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Listen to those PC demonstrations, the only fucking thing people react to are the glory kills and chainsaw animations.

This is what people want.
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>>337098019
>Pulls corpse out of elevator
>"OOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
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>>337089275
>Brutal Doom
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>>337093963
this desu people would probably bitch about there not being a satisfying DOOM game released in this day and age
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>>337075014
HAHAH HALO IS SCI FI WITH A GUY IN POWER ARMOUR DOOM IS S CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCI FI WITH A GUY IN POWER ARMOUR FUCKING BETHESDA DRONES
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>>337077089
feels bad that I can name all these except for the bottom right.
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>>337077271
>>337077278
Fuck yeah never seen keen discussed on /v/

Best childhood memories of keen IV, GOAT sound effects
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>>337094542
yes
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The new Doom level Romero on released his twitter is better than the entire new game
I'm calling it
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>>337074602
I played Doom for the first time 2 months ago and i fucking love it. Currently playing Doom 2 and having a blast. Though you can really tell the level designers werent as good as in the first one.

The new one just looks like shit. Poop. Feces.
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>>337074602
Fucking spot on m8 gaming is just a new platform for kids to pussy ache about
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>>337075418
doom is still fun as fuck in 2016

I've still never played another FPS that feels quite like it. Maybe its because you run so fast, I dont know
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Say whatever you want, it's one of the best selling games at the moment.
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I bought Doom and I don't care what you say. I played the beta to find out that the game works, it has good controls and options, and runs smoothly. I know enough about how singleplayer promotional videos are produced to spot bullshit in between cherrypicked moments of goodness. There isn't much bullshit. Doom 3 wasn't a horrible game and neither is this one. It's Doom enough. If it isn't enough for you, I guess you can eat shit and die then.
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appealing to modern FPS design
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Kinda unrelated: I was going to buy Doom together with Pathologic since it's on sale right now. If Doom turns out shitty and I refund it, do I need to refund Pathologic as well since I bought both games in the same purchase? I don't know how refunds work yet.
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>>337100979
>new
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Already bought it. I like simple gory stuff with dark settings
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>>337101671
It's not post-ironic, it's post-post-ironic.
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>>337081108
Where do I apply to be a shill in a shit hole ?
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>>337101902
I have no idea what guy are trying to communicate to me
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>>337101975
You're already dead.
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>>337101931
You've just gotta believe
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>>337075418
>Doom by today's standards is boring as fuck

What did he mean by this? I played Doom 2 for 5 hours yesterday, am I a boring person or something? ;_;
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>No prerelease review copies

Lel
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So do any of you actually hate brutal doom or do you just think you do because someone on the internet told you to?
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>>337102962

Brutal Doom isn't bad, it's just a bit hastily put together. It's not as balanced and consistent as vanilla. And the death animations are still too long and the voice actor is atrocious.
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>>337103185
>the voice actor is atrocious.

I actually think it's hilarious, which is the point.

Also I disagree about it being hastily put together, it's extremely well made.
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>>337103185

Whoops. I was being reasonable on a D44M hate thread. My bad.
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>>337102962
The creator should kill himself and his mod is overrated
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>>337103268
What's so bad about the creator?
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>>337103185
>not as balanced
What did he mean by this?
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>>337103209
>it's hilarious
>it's extremely well made
what's up SMIV
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>>337103368
What's so bad about it?
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>>337103209
>Also I disagree about it being hastily put together, it's extremely well made.

The assets are very well produced, but the weapons and enemies aren't as well balanced as in the original game. Some things are underpowered and some overpowered. Some enemies that used to be a challenge are a joke with the new mechanics, and others are the other way around. Basically Brutal Doom isn't 100% compatible with vanilla level design because of the changes it's made to the mechanics.
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its too fast
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