What are good vns?
I've read Stiens;Gate and didn't think too much of it, I've also made my way through Analogue:A Hate Story which kind of sucked also.
I read a lot of books so good translation/writing/dialogue is important - a cool concept and TWEESTS won't cut it.
>>337061728
999 and VLR are pretty good
>>337061728
Umineko
>>337061853
I forgot to mention, I've played Hotel Dusk, 999, Last Window, the first Phoenix Wright and Ghost Trick.
Thoroughly enjoyed all of them, but I always view them as more puzzle games than VNs
>>337062063
You should try Danganronpa, another puzzle game that is not really a VN
>>337062014
>Umineko
Monica
>>337061728
>Otome shit and whatnot
Code: Realize is really good if you don't mind the game is targeted to girls
VNs might not be the best idea if you're not into typical anime cliches/characters.
I'm looking for a good mystery vn
I've searched everywhere but haven't found much. Are there any that are grim, serious and bloody? I've read Higurashi but that's about all for mystery. I'd like more like it in terms of murder mystery
i am playing junipers knot now because i have an interest in the demon girl meets normal guy stories.
it seems nice so far.
any other good ones with that lind pf story? (demon girl meets normal guy)
>>337062713
I'm perfectly aware that 90% of them are shit/don't translate well - as with Anime. I'm willing to go digging for that 10% though. I've found some real gems when it comes to anime even though I first wrote the medium off completely.
>>337062014
WHY WASNT I informed there is another series in the Higurashi series??
>>337061728
I didn't like S;G either. There's a lot VNs that just didn't keep my attention. Only one I've really enjoyed and finished was Remember11. Umineko is another good one, I just haven't had the time to continue it.
It's especially hard to find an enjoyable stuff to read if you don't want any romance kawaii uguu.
Saya no Uta
>>337062876
Try Kara no shoujo. Be warned though, you'll need to use a flowchart to get through it.
>>337063368
Thank you, I'll check it out right now.
>>337061728
If you can stomach unfinished work, there's press switch. It's about a young boy finding a remote that can bend more stuff than just gender. Unfortunately you suffer from being a retard and spineless at times.Where you can actually get raped by your best male friend or female friend and turn into her personal fucktoy using your original body while you're stealing another friend's body. You also steal the girl's piano recital too because you borrowed her knowledge. Hell, even your younger sister brainwashes you after she turns you into a clone of her.
There's only like 3 or 4 fleshed out routes but it's still a good read.
I'm really digging root double, though I haven't finished it yet
True Remembrance.
>>337061728
Whats a goodAND short VN?
Something that would easily get me into VNs. Preferrably not romance, but anything goes
>>337063816
I used to recommend that in every VN thread I came across
Glad someone else likes it
>>337063325
It's not directly related to Higurashi just set in the same universe. The only shared character is Bernkastel.
Also Umineko is the longest VN out there atm. Can take around 350 hours with auto on
>>337063349
I personally don't care much for romance, esp the nip variety, but I'll stomach it if there's other stuff going on.
But yeah I can see that being a big barrier for me. Spice and Wolf is a prime example, everything else about the show is golden but the romance completely kills it, people have told me that it's well handled for anime romance. If that's the case I'd hate to see what full kawaii uguu looks like.
>>337062876
Then you need to check out Umineko because it's like Higurashi but it focuses more heavily on the murder mystery plot.
I'd give the first danganronpa a shot, as long you can handle a shit ending and stupid characters.
the second has better writing but lost the confyness the first one had with exploration, along with better polished mechanics and game play.
there's a third one coming out this year, but it's most likely going to be shit
>>337064158
wew lad, that's some undertaking. Wouldn't even take me that long to get through a dense book. I'm about 1/4 Ulysses atm and I've only been at it 10-15 hours tops.
>>337061728
This may be the wrong medium for you if you're specifically just dissecting the writing and leaving everything else. VNs aren't supposed to be the best written and compare to the best of literature, they're supposed to be good overall because of the combination of the prose+audio(ost, sound effects and sometimes voice over)+visuals(character design, artstyle, with the special effects entailed). Also some visual novels like Aselia the Eternal have gameplay.
It's kinda like movies. Some movies have okay script, with dialogues that can make your eyes roll but the way that it's delivered is what makes it specially good.
There are rarely any good translations with VNs in English. So you're going to have to suck it up if you want to experience what can arguably is a better medium than literature itself.
Go onvndband see the top rated VNs that have been translated.
>>337063036
What are some anime that you think are gems?
>>337063816
Damn, one of the first vns I read, didn't even remember this. Gotta reread it.
>>337064236
self insert romance is a staple of the vn genre, it's uncommon for it not to have some kind of "pick the heroine you like the most" element to it, and then simulate a relationship. You'll probably want to look for vn's on consoles, because they usually have some sort of gameplay draw as well. 07th expansion is really the only creator that I can think of that consistently puts out good stuff that doesn't include that. Basically:>>337064458
Little Busters! is my personal favorite, though it does have the heroine hunting, I personally didn't really care for that and was more interested in the relationships explored in the true ending(that of the protagonist and his male friends). The routes are important for fully understanding the female character's back stories, though I guess.
>>337064458
Like I said, I'm willing to stomach weaker writing -as long as it's not completely abysmal. I enjoy storytelling and like the idea of experiencing it through different mediums.
People say, correctly, that writing in vidya is shit compared to books - but there are still some games out there that do as good a job at telling stories because the properly utilize the medium. I guess what I'm really looking for is VNs that do the same.
>>337061728
Did you 100% it?
Cartagra and Kara no Shoujo
>>337065071
Well you need to be more specific with your tastes. I could recommand the Illiad to someone and they could find it shit. Same goes with Shakespeare.
>>337061728
If you didn't like Steins, maybe VNs aren't for you.
>>337065309
Stein's gate isn't even that well like among VN veterans.
Gahkthun of the Golden lightning
>>337061728
Try out Rewrite. It's pretty bad in a couple if routes, but fun overall.
You need to tell me what you enjoy, what you expect to read, so I can advice something better.
>>337061728
not video games
>>337064934
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Kemono no Souja Erin
Twelve Kingdoms
Kino's Journey
Ping Pong
Mushishi
Gankutsuou*
Robot Carnival
Jin-Roh
Mononoke**
Tatami Galaxy
Casshern Sins
Now and then, Here and there
Aoi Bungaku<----
Kaiji-Akagi-One outs
Kaiba
Paranoia Agent
*Adaptation of the Count of Monte Cristo
**Lots of japanese symbolism, still interesting
Not that anon tho lmao, these are all standouts among the standouts IMO, many more films that are good, too many to list
Majikoi
>>337065706
Then why the fuck are you giving your list? I'm not looking to recommand you a VN.
>>337064934
Kinos Journey, PlanatES, Mononoke, Cowboy Bebop/Samurai Champloo(for the unconventional fusion of genres), The Big O(when taken as individual episodes, doesn't really come together coherently), GitS(I'm a sucker for cyberpunk).
Also quite enjoyed OPM, nothing too stand out about it but it handled comedy better than most anime and delivered a decent fix of FIGHTAN DUDES without taking itself too seriously.
All pretty entry level but as I said, I'm not too invested in the medium. Any recommendations are welcome.
>Have Yu-No installed for months
>Still haven't gotten around to playing it
I feel I should play it one of these days.
Where can I get a Dr pepper gf, lads?
>>337065739
I turned off the game after I played through most of the routes, I saved the main Mary Sue for last, she rejected the protagonist at the start, it hit too close to home and I uninstalled it
>>337065913
My sister likes Dr. Pepper
>>337061728
Visual Novels are all the tedium of vidya with none of the fun.
>>337065913
america
>>337065838
Why not? I'm convinced I've experienced all VN's have to offer after reading Little Busters, 07th expansion's works, and G-Senjou no Maou. That and some indies.
>>337066027
Can I have her?
>>337065490
In America*
>>337066027
Hook me up m8
>>337065871
Wasn't the remake supposed to come out soon?
Fate/stay night is goodif you're autistic
>>337065961
But she is a good girl anon.Margit route is pretty much bitch training and goddamn is too good on this.
/a/ and /jp/ cross boarder here and honestly looking at this thread it seems most folks don't really play many VNs.
Honestly what kind of VN you want depends on what genres you like.
I don't normally do this because normally I'm on /a/, but just tell me what genres or shows you like ans I'll recommend some anime or VNs (tell me which you want).
>>337065867
Kikokugai for cyberpunk.
I also strongly recommend Remember11, I think you may like it.
>>337066224
>>337066271
Off limits sorry
>no one has mentioned muv luv yet
Shit taste in this thread I tell you
Duduru :D
Have any of the Sakura Taisen games been fully fan-translated yet?
OP here, people are asking what I'm looking for. Knowing that I'm not likely to find nice prose, realistic dialogue and that comedy doesn't translate well, I can say
-Interesting concepts. Be they fantasy, sci-fi or what have you. Weather novel or deconstructions I'd like to see an idea taken and looked at from unusual/thought provoking angles.
-Lore and world building
-Writing with somewhat western influence/sensibilities. This is something I've found in a lot of my favourite anime, The Big O, Samurai Champloo, OPM. Even GitS to a certain extent.
>>337065867
Muv Luv Alternative (hard sci fi, military, sequel of a generic moe harem game but far more better) You'd need some familiarity with the characters, so reading a quick summary of Muv Luv is good.
Still reading through this one and its good so far.
>>337066806
>skipping extra
Fucking faggot just read it like everyone else.
>>337066353
>JUST MOE MY SHIT UP
>>337066942
I didn't skip it. There is no way someone like OP won't skip it though.
>>337065551
heard this is lewd as fuck
>>337066802
Sekien no Inganock and Shikkoku no Sharnoth have interesting worlds and a unique writing style.
Sekien no Inganock can get a bit repetitive though.
Shikkoku no Sharnoth has a female protagonist and little sexual content.
>>337066412
I wish I could just go over to /a/ and ask about stuff, but I know they'll only tell me to fuck off. Also a lot of them have really shit taste. Say what you want about /v/ but at least they call out the big budget FotMs here - I've seen so many threads made about absolute dirt over on /a/ and then they have the nerve to act elitist.
Don't really know jack about /jp/, those guys are wizards as far as I'm concerned. As for what I like, see these two posts
>>337065867
>>337066802
I'm hearing good things about Remember 11, can you vouch for it?
>>337066412
Liked Steins;Gate, Ever17, 999, Kara no Shoujo, Code Geass, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, NGE, TTGL, Spice and Wolf, Black Lagoon, GitS.
Recommend VN or anime
>>337066802
Umineko for concepts and deconstruction. It's quite tedious though. Also, it doesn't really exploits the strength on the medium, it could very well be some long-ass TV series.
>>337067294
Remember 11 is fucking nuts. It ends on a cliffhanger but you can piece most of the mysteries together.
>>337067294
To be honest, you can't call /a/ having shit taste and liking One Joke Man.
for better or worse, there will never be a VN like umineko ever again
it's a truly unique VN experience
>>337067294
/a/ just hates recommendation threads
>>337067329
>Steins;Gate, Ever17, 999
Danganronpa.
>>337067512
Thanks, but I alreadywatchedit at a friend's recommendation.
>>337067329
The Big O - gets a bit weird at the end but you'll enjoy it right up until the second last episode.
>>337067623
>watched
No friend, PLAY it. And then play 2. The anime is absolute shit.
>>337067427
I'm not saying it's top quality or anything, but as far as mindless fights and super heroes go(which isn't very far) it's pretty entertaining.
>>337066821
I literally have one more chapter to finish for this and I still haven't done it. It has a lot of repetition.
>>337067329
Check out Sakamichi and Space Dandy if you like Watanabe's work. You might have seen it, but Erased is also a good suspenseful watch. If you don't mind shounen, I'd recommend Hunter x Hunter, both '99 and 2011 are excellent.
>>337067329
Remember11 and Tsukihime
>>337067767
Yeah I know, but I didn't think it was worth playing anymore since I already know what happens. I'll give it a shot if you say it's still good.
>>337067864
>Tsukihime
why would you ever recommend something that bad to anyone
>>337067329
Tsukihime and Muv Luv Alternative for VNs
Legend of Galactic Hero and Technolyxe for anime
>>337067294
>Also a lot of them have really shit taste
>This is something I've found in a lot of my favourite anime, The Big O, Samurai Champloo, OPM. Even GitS to a certain extent.
I don't get what you're trying to say here, you're listing a bunch of shit that's all overly popular on /a/
>>337066587
If only they had gameplay in thisor more than one ending in MLAThat VN would be so much better.
>>337067952
Because it's great, and not bad?
>>337067952
Your taste is bad.
>>337067862
This when it comes to Hunter X Hunter but watch 1999 until Yorkshin, then watch 2011.
I see a lot of people talking about Muv Luv, I'm gonna be honest here I've heard it's hella long so I'm probably going to stay away from it.
>>337067294
>Say what you want about /v/ but at least they call out the big budget FotMs
Is that why we have a million overwatch thread right now?
/jp/ is just dead generals and touhou threads. They do have threads about VN currently being translated though.
>>337066404
>Margit route is pretty much bitch training and goddamn is too good on this.
Training that will extend to her whole squad.
>>337068118
If you're worried about length, you're gonna miss out on a lot of great stuff. Remember that most VNs are divided into routes and no one's telling you to marathon a 50 hour game in one sitting.
>>337067993
Yeah but all I know is entry level shit because I don't really into anime. I've just realised that it's been like a year or two since I've been there. They hated most of that stuff last time I checked in. I guess /v/ has changed a good bit in the last year or two also. Maybe I just haven't noticed because I come here more often.
fate is best vn, play every route
>>337065867
Cyber City OEDO is great with the UK dub
>>337067294
>I've seen so many threads made about absolute dirt over on /a/ and then they have the nerve to act elitist.
Not every anime you like has to be mature anime for mature people such as yourself. Loosen up and enjoy some no substance cute girl shows.
>>337068434
As flawed as it is, I still like F/SN a lot. Occasional bad writing aside, it was very engrossing and genuinely powerful at times. I watched Zero afterwards and it was a total snoozefest, I was just counting the time until Kiritsugu or Rider came back on screen.
>>337068380
Nothing to do with entry level shit or whatever, the stuff you mentioned has always been popular on there
At most, OPM gets hate because of it's annoying fanbase
and the Ghost in the Shell movies get hate for being massively inferior to the original manga
That's about it really.
>>337068341
There are exceptions, I'll give you that. But look at Battlefront, MGSV, Undertale(not big budget but hella popular). After about a week or two people were pretty consistently shitting on all of them. Even the Overwatch threads are 60% people calling the game shit. Compare that to other video game discussion communities and we're doing pretty well.
>>337068360
I'm not opposed to spending a bit of time on something, just looking for something a bit shorter to ease me in. Also,
>50 hours
That's not too long, I've been told it's way longer than that. Perhaps I'm misinformed or I've been listening to shitters.
Funny this thread is here. I just began my first vn today myself. Dl'd a few free ones from steam. Lucid9, Everlasting summer, and one thousand lies. Would love some recommendations, also what game platform are most of these already recommended on? Psp?
>>337068936
Man, if you think /a/ doesn't shitpost about whatever is popular then you have never been there.
There's a reason moot had to intervene just to make naruto allowed again.
>>337069013
PC is the big platform for VNs as far as I can tell, with a few puzzle VNs being on 3DS.
Also, just realised Remember11 is related to Ever17 which I recall matthewmatosis recommending. That's gotta be worth something
>>337069013
PC
Try out Saya and Ever17, your usual entry stuff
>>337068936
>contrarian shitposting is "doing pretty well"
>>337069237
I was more implying that the stuff the say is good isn't generally much better than the stuff they shit on(discounting the absolute bottom of the barrel stuff like Naruto, etc)
>>337069264
Ah OK cool . I'll check some of them out. Btw you looking for some anime gems, go watch Your lie in April. It's amazing rlly. Also since your in the vn mood go watch The world only God knows. It's awesome too.
>>337069013
Mostly PC. Also Vita and DS. Try the entry level VNs, I started with Fate Stay/Night and Tsukihime. Ever 17 and Steins;Gate are good choices, too.
>>337069349
It's better than dicksucking big AAA releases. I'd rather a bit(read: a lot) of contrarian shitposting to sharing a board with people who think Skyrim and FO4 are the pinnacles of the RPG genre.
>>337061728
Does the very first part say "I attend university"?
My nip's not too good.
>>337069630
Yeah I'm going to have to check out stein;gates. The anime was pretty good
What's the deal with downloading VNs, is there a site most people use or is it all torrents?
>>337067862
Woah, this looks excellent
I thought the old anime wasn't very well liked. Whats the general consensus on both and why?
Absolutely loved this. Total surprise and super comfy.
>>337061728
Muv Luv is one of the few VNs that had me hooked to the extent that whenever I wasn't playing it I was thinking about it. I honestly had difficulty sleeping until I finished it
Even in spite oflacrosseand the sci-fi bullshit i'd say anyone getting into VNs should at least give it a shot
>>337070078
Google.
>>337069630
>try to read fate/stay night
>protagonist is a fucking retard
>le insane pedobait loli girl meme
>king arthur was actually a woman he underwent a sex change operation so he is your waifu now, have some naked shots of her in the shower
I didn't get very far, but whole thing felt like the author's sexual fantasy wankfest as opposed to an interesting story to me.
>>337070078
Stolen pastebin from /vg/
http://pastebin.com/U7HUj0fk
>>337073241
Originally the protagonist was gonna be a girl dicked by Arthur and the designs were less moeshit.
How do Hotel Dusk (and 999 and its sequels) compare to Ghost Trick? Ghost Trick really lost a lot of its charm as it dragged on. Almost unbearable dialgogue at times with a myriad of repetitions - seemed like the game assumed a three year old was playing. Character's motivations were off at times and the tweeests left me very unsatisfied.
>>337072503
I really want to call Muv Luv shit, there's so much wrong with it, but the same thing happened to me, I couldn't stop until I finished it.
>>337073241
I didn't like FSN for almost the same reasons at first but I remembered that some guy told me that the first route was crap and the following two were cool. I recomend FSN mostly because I know it's not the best shit ever (sometimes is really retarded and the pacing is fucking terrible), but it's enjoyable. Also, I laughed a lot while reading the sex scenes.
>>337073740
Then 999 isn't for you. It has the same problem, even if you can fastforward dialogue, you can't skip the rooms you already finished in another ending. VLR fixed that but if you really want to have the full experience, you have to play 999 first.
Hotel Dusk is different. I played it about 7 years ago when I was sick in bed for a whole week. It's pretty comfy and there's not repetition because it's more like a point and click game.
>>337062063
>>337062327
Also D4 is basically Swery's take on Ace Attorney Investigations
Policenauts and Snatcher are both good sci-fi ones by Kojima
>>337073740
You might not like 999, but Hotel Dusk is pretty good. Dialogue feels quite believable and there's no repetition. Once you've finished the game you'll be done with it. It's not a long game and the way it's divided into chapters means pacing isn't really an issue. Puzzles are fairly simple.
speaking of which, Planetarian is getting an anime adaptation now, after all these years. I don't know how to feel about this.
>>337076464
it will be shit
>>337075780
>>337076187
How are the puzzles in Hotel Dusk(and 999)? I thought the ghost trick idea was neat but It never really amazed me and looking back it all was either simple or contrived or both. Wasn't really fun to solve the puzzles. Don't mind point and click if it's done well.
>>337076559
In 999, they're basically little mini Myst puzzles, only for the most part a lot easier. More of a focus is clearly on the narrative as opposed to the puzzles.
>>337076559
They're pretty simple. Fun, but not exactly challenging. I wouldn't worry about them being too contrived as they're not really that difficult.
There's no "gimmick" like in Ghost Trick, it's very much your traditional point and click. Use X on Y with additional puzzles based on moving things around(gotta take advantage of that touch screen).
