Out of curiosity, who here planned to get Overwatch, but now isn't because of the beta?
I feel like I've already seen everything this game has to offer. I had a feeling it would be the Heroes of the Storm of FPS, but it actually feels even more dumbed down than that. It's amazing how some characters don't even have secondary fire and most do not have alternate weapons.
The swing ults allow for is just not interesting either. Having a FPS with one hit kill ultimates is a terrible idea and the map design only makes it worse.
Plus because it is Blizzard I know, based on how they support their other games, that they will be painfully slow to add new content to the game and especially slow to add balance patches.
If this game was F2P I would probably play it on occasion when friends want to, but sixty dollars on console is a joke and forty on PC isn't much better.
>>337061715
Its a fun game but I feel like I have had my fun with it and don't think that I will be getting at launch
is there even a difference between the full package and the beta?
I wasn't planning on buying it before the beta, but I had fun with the beta. Would buy it if it was 20€, 40 is too much.
>>337061715
I will buy it in a year or two if it gets 20 times the current content it has. It's fucking barebones.
>>337061715
I go to the gym and play basketball. With just a ball and court I've "seen everything the game has to offer".
I won't even continue. That's a stupid point you're making and doesn't broadly apply to every game.
>>337061715
It's fun a replacement for TF2 since valve is too stupid to release SOURCE 2 and a TF3 or at least a valve games source 2 update
but sadly like TF2 it comes with SHIT balance which is worst because 21 characters instead of 9
blizzard marketing on /v/ one, so yeah OP
>$0.25 has been diposited into your account
>>337061715
I'll get it, but maybe not at launch. There needs to be a lot more things to do. Most of the modes are mundane and feel like they drag on too long. Character customization outside of aesthetics would be good substitute, though.
>>337062748
>I feel like I've already seen everything this game has to offer.
>I feel like
But keep on being autistic, anon.
>>337063112
The game's value isn't necessarily determined by the amount of content, is my point. It's not Uncharted 4 or something similar.
>>337062803
Dota 2 is in source 2, they're just too stupid to port their other games to it
>>337062748
Uhh okay? I hope I didn't offend you.
>>337063257
Oh you did, I'm buttblasted.
>>337062995
This
Devs are throwing money away when they release barebones cosmetic systems.
The best bet seems to be to just wait a year or two and buy it then. By then Blizzard would have added a shit ton of content. There is no point getting it right now
I think I'd buy it for 10$. Made me feel a bit like playing TF2 for the first time again. I wonder what it would be like with slightly more open and longer maps, matches seem to end just a bit too fast for my taste.
I've been playing it pretty much constantly every chance I get, and I'm totally in love with the game, Granted, I've wasted about 2 days of my life watching streams before the open beta landed, so I already knew I how much I'd be into Overwatch. I do have a few issues though. For example, I feel like there should be at least 2 more maps to make things more exciting and fresh. Like you said, I already feel like I've seen everything in the beta, but I enjoy the gameplay enough to want to continue playing.
My friends on the other hand, aren't as enthusiastic about it. One isn't totally impressed with the game, but enjoys it enough to want to buy it if it goes down in price. Another basically just plays it because it's a group activity, and likely won't buy it at all. Two of my other friends weren't impressed at all, one of which uninstalling after few games, and the last one is a Blizzfag who would be buying it day 1 with me, but he doesn't have the money. My dreams of having a complete squad on voice are pretty much dead, and I'm a bit worried about the longevity of the game as a whole if 4/6 people find it a snorefest.
>Guys there will eventually be hacks in our game like there are in every FPS games, how do we prevent this?
>I know let's add wallhack and aimbot as baseline abilities so nobody needs to hack!
>brilliant!
I can't even begin to understand what the fuck they were thinking. Every single death because of either one of those abilities made me hate the game more and more, each one was cheap and retarded and lowered the chances of me buying the game
I don't even mind cheese in games. But fucking wallhack and aimbot, two hacks I've had to deal with my whole life as an FPS player and which are always so fucking frustrating and cheap. And they just add them. Yeah gotta make sure even the shittiest players contribute good job
what a fucking joke of a game
>>337064412
get rekt scrub. it's your fault for not knowing he would teleport behind you from across the map and instant kill you and everyone around you!
it's your fault for not knowing exactly where hanzo fired his ult! it's your fault for forgetting bastion's turret is the strongest weapon in the game, but also has the range of a sniper rifle xD!
>multiplayer only
>12 tiny maps, each can only played in one mode and the game has only a total of 3 (4) different modes
>most characters can only do 1 or sometimes 2 interesting things until they get their ultis
>most dont even have a secondary weapon or alt fire
>no loadout/weapons
>absolutely no other content except cosmetic items
>$40
how is this acceptable?
i just think it treats its playerbase like retards.you cant even chose if you want to attack or defend on the map.
anyways,fun game,definitely not worth 40 bucks imo,maybe 20.i also dont understand how it hopes to stay alive for too long if they will only sell skins since new characters and maps will be free
>>337062507
Other than some possible slight stat changes here and there, no.
I feel like concentration of shills is pretty high.
>>337066479
Should also ask the people who made Evolve and had a $120 dollar version of it plus microtransactions.
>>337067637
How am I shilling? I'm pretty clearly saying that playing the demo turned me off of the game.
I've yet to play the beta, because I don't really do that until I hear a true gamer's description of the game. But, I'm interested.
From what I've read, is it just a TvT like TF2, or is there a campaign too?
Same OP. Probably put 25 hours into the beta, played every map and character, and don't feel any need to buy it now. Had my fun, despite how utterly shallow and casual it is, but saw and did everything and it feels like it should be free to play. I don't expect it to be long lived.
>>337061715
Only reason I'm not getting it is because the game is overpriced here in Brazil for whatever reason.
Even the digital PC copy.
I dont get the reason but I will wait some time to see if they lower it.
Game is legit fun, with zero lags and runs like a fucking dream, but right now I cant pay for it.
>mole
I got banned from TF2 for using LMAObox so I play it and will be buying it once the beta is over.
It is better than TF2 because it's faster, more class based, better hitboxes and servers, etc.
The beta just proved that.
Blizzard > Valve.
I'll get it when I'm convinced that the people I usually play with actually buy it and play it actively.
Its shit with randoms.
>>337061715
I'm one of those. Got super excited for it until I finally got to play it and experience what a horribly balanced and designed mess it is.
>>337071159
Yeah it's basically unplayable with random people, especially on consoles. The voice commands in the game are completely useless. There is no real way to form strategies with your team quickly and the lack of a minimap is fucking stupid.
>>337061715
I want to see Samus and Pharah hi-five each other
I considered it, but at the end of the day I realized that all I really cared about was the SFM porn.
I pre-ordered it after the beta.
>>337061715
I do. It's just a 3d awesomenauts. I'd miss my fun times with D.Va and Pharah but I won't buy it.
>>337066479
TF2 was far, far smaller on release, and cost $30
>>337061715
That's exactly how I'm feeling on Overwatch.
Rounds need to be much MUCH longer too.
>>337061715
I wasn't going to get it but the game really plays much better when you're able to use team work and communicate with a full party of friends. Soloing in the game isn't fun and even queuing with 1 or 2 other people can be awful.I know everything is more fun with friends and I can testify to this since I played Dead Island with them and had a blast even though its a shit game but I honestly feel like Overwatch plays better when you have a team whose play you are familiar with and are able to work together
>>337061715
I'm ok with the gameplay, but I'm not ok with there not being a fix for the "Lost connection to game server" issue that has been reported by lots of players on the official forums.
I get disconnected upwards of 5 times PER MATCH. I am able to log right back in again but why are the disconnects happening in the first place? I ran their tracert and it was deemed clear, flushed DNS, have proper port forwarding set up and I even swapped my QoS settings to make Overwatch have 50% of my overall router's throughput when active (way fucking more than anything would ever need). No dead packets, no lag spikes - it will just log you out of Overwatch. Not B.Net - just Overwatch. I play just about every other online multiplayer game you can think of without any issues.
Blizzard acknowledges the issue and has no fix for it.
>>337073431
Nah. It's the best part of this game. When you get grouped with retards (which is always) you don't have to endure getting shit on for half an hour
dis wurl ii wurf fitang fah
>>337073230
$20.
And got progressively cheaper as it gained more content.
Overwatch is an Activision Blizzard game. It isn't getting cheaper for years.
>>337061715
I preordered before the beta and after playing nearly 30 hours in the last week I am glad I did buy it.
I need more.
>>337073682
I guess that's just a matter of personal preference, I think shorter rounds don't give you a sense of great accomplishment. That's just me though.
>>337061715
The open beta made me realise I'd just rather play TF2
The On/Off of the beta killed it for me
Playing the beta killed it for me
Ults being the only way to get PotG killed it
duo/trio hero teams killed it for me
I was planning on buying Overwatch as a 'new' shooter to get attached to since TF2 is almost 9 years old.
The beta experience gave me my fill. It's not worth the cash for a shallow game that caters to casuals and console players.
I also have doubts that the competitive community would survive at all after the first year or so without a whole lot of help from Blizzard.
I just want to play TF2 because Im banned.
This is sort of filling the void.
>just got 111% kill participation as Mercy
wut
>>337061715
Played it already like half a year ago. Got bored with it in a few days back then
Played the open beta and got bored after a few hours
The only way they get me to play it more is if it is free
After playing the beta, I don't think the game has enough content to justify the full price to me.
>>337074220
That's how every modern Blizzard game survives competitively. Look at Heroes of the Storm.
I actually had close to 0 interest in overwatch and now I'm going to get it because of the beta
>>337061715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ngg91erytw
Had fun doing this today.
Will buy it once it's at half the price.
Maps are terrible
Character balance is way off
Way too much emphasis on ultimate skills
All of these issues could be solved but this is Blizzard we're talking about
ITT: Poor people try to rationalize not buying the game. "It's fun, but not THAT fun" hahaha.
It's an ok game, I probably won't play it 2 hours a day until they release more content but it's only $40 and a good time waster.
VAC Banned 7 days ago. Its sort of similar to TF2 and I might just buy this to spite valve because of their shitty practices.
I'm getting it, I have faith in it. All t he "durr I've seen it all" fucks are wrong because they already said they plan to keep it updated with new heroes and maps, and if they want an e-sports scene we can assume balance patches as well.
I fucking swear people have it blocked out of their mind how bare bones tf2 started off
>>337074734
>"I got banned for being a fucking moron so I will buy a blizzard game."
Makes sense
>>337074690
> 'rich' people try to pretend needlessly spending their money makes them special.
i'll give you 500 pounds of shit for 40 dollars anon, it's shit but it's only 40 dollars. it's good fertilizer
>>337074886
I'll take it. You're mother eats a ton after sex. Offset the food cost a bit.
>>337061715
>Mole
When will this meme die?
I had a fun time with the beta and I'd love to play more but the game itself doesn't feel worth $40.
If it was $20, I would've pre-ordered it.
>>337062507
No buuuuuuut they are supposed to add more characters and maps and shit for free down the road. Don't know how long that will be though
>>337074690
I COULD buy it anon, but I KNOW I'll get bored of it after a week.
I could spend $40 elsewhere and get more content.
>>337074749
Just because we had three hour stalemates on tc_hydro and demoman grenades detonated on impact after bouncing doesn't mean the game wasn't solid. Overwatch is releasing with more heroes but not much content otherwise.
TF2 also had new maps and mods quickly because it was a Source engine game - Overwatch is completely controlled by Blizzard.
>>337075080
>No buuuuuuut they are supposed to add more characters and maps and shit for free
But they've already said they are dabbling with the idea of paid content.
I'm still glad I pre ordered, the game reminds me of why I use to play TF2 before weapons ruined (but ironically kept it relevant) the game.
I feel that some fine tuning is kinda needed but ultimately the fact that all characters are in some way op is nice as it forces you to think " what crazy strategy can beat this?" Rather than just sticking to the same character constantly.
I think there should be an option or a complete removal of being able to stack the same character, though this can be fun for shits and giggles on both sides.
What really will make or break it is how much content is down the pipeline. I want more lore stuff, possibly even single player story missions, more game modes like ctf and Monday night combat style fort maps. And possibly adding 8+ characters. Not too many to swamp the game play, but enough to keep you looking towards playing more.
>>337071124
>lmaobox
http://youtu.be/gy-mv7uxdzY
>>337075226
Source?
>>337061715
Game will fail just like that Star Wars game did. People will just get bored of the same shit. There is not enough content to hold peoples attention.
>>337075393
Fuck man how can you compare this game to that trash.
>>337075470
Shitposting is easy, that's how.
I feel like the game blizzard created is just flawed to the core. As it stands right now, the game is all about picking "safe" heroes to start with and then counterpicking only to get counterpicked to counterpick them etc. The only fix for this is to not allow class changes but then everybody would be playing the same 2-3 team set ups all the time and one person not following along could potentially fuck you.
>>337074202
>Ults being the only way to get PotG
But they're not
>>337061715
I didn't plan on getting Overwatch but probably will because of the beta
>>337075508
>>337075470
>if I disagree then it's shitposting
The game is basically the latest Battlefront. Pretty, but no content and basic gameplay. Most people will be bored after 10 hours when they realize they already this.
Played alot of the beta, I'm with alot of people here in saying that it isn't worth $60, let alone $40.
You've basically covered all that there is to the game in the beta and it isn't enough to keep on playing.
A ton of hype, not enough substance.
>>337075731
>The game is basically the latest Battlefront.
I thought it was the latest TF2
>>337074886
>google cost of Fertilizer
>82c per lb
>410 Freedom Fries for 500lbs of Fertilizer
>google cost of manure
>50lb bag for 91.33
>913.00 Dollarydoodles for 500 pounds of actual shit
Yeah that does sound like a good deal Anon, what's the problem here?
>>337075793
Not with that tick rate.
>>337075793
Overwatch is a $40 TF2.
It is an alright game. Not worth 40 though. You might not like honest answers from /v/ since it is infested with Blizzdrones who do it for free.
>>337075731
>basic gameplay
oh shit, it's you again.
>>337075838
A tick rate is something that no one cared about until OW shitposting threads
I had more fun with the battleborn beta compared to the overwatch beta
It had more content and it was pretty good how you unlocked characters (either campaign, killing a certain amount of people, ranking up) made things fresh. Having all the characters at the start kinda sucks because you can just play them and get bored of them.
Sure in Battleborn you can get put against a team that have better heroes but apparently they fixed that
>>337061715
Opposite.
I originally thought it was shallow and only 1hr of entertainment, but I sank 9 hours into the beta and am still having fun so Blizzard earned my shekels.
>>337075919
The fuck are you on about?
>>337075949
>Having all the characters at the start kinda sucks
I would rather all the characters be available from the start instead of having to grind points to unlock them.
>>337075949
>Having all the characters at the start kinda sucks because you can just play them and get bored of them.
Overwatch feels like it needs a few more maps and 1-2 more options per character
I'll still get it if Battleborn disappoints. There's not a lot of FPS competition out there which is why CSGO is still king
>>337074690
>If you don't throw $40 at a game you'll barely play that means you're poor
I guess? I mean I rather spend money on a game with a better shelf life and support a company who sees the playerbase as more than just walking cashcows waiting to be milked.
>>337075947
Maybe if you're extremely ignorant. People have bitched about csgo's competitive mode having 64 tick since it was introduced into the game. Overwatch's tick rate is 20. Custom games/servers can go up to 64 while in csgo they go up to 128.
>>337076087
>>337076117
You have nothing to look forward to.
And like I said you don't have to grind for the majority of characters in Battleborn.
I wonder what Paragon is gonna do differently to these two
>>337076229
>You have nothing to look forward to.
They will be adding more heroes and maps in the future, so yes we do
And we won't have to grind to get them, either
Besides, I highly doubt that you've mastered all 21 heroes in the 5 days of open beta testing m8
Overwatch is aimed at casuals which means 95% of the player base is going to be drooling retards. This means you will have to have a full team of friends if you want any kind of teamwork
>>337076229
>You have nothing to look forward to.
That is the dumbest reasoning I've ever heard.
The whole progression to unlock non-cosmetic shit is the cancer killing FPS
>>337076342
>ignoring me saying you don't have to grind for characters
>mastering Overwatch
Oh wait you're serious.
I expected to be more casual than TF2, but it's just too casual. Yeah, it's fun, but it's not like TF2 where i have the urge to git gud because the skill ceiling is quite high, not to mention it focus too much on teamplay and counterpick in detriment of individual skill. I play one or two hours every other day and feel satisfied. The progression system seems like it'll be about 1/4 to 1/3 of my motivation to play while i couldn't care less about obtaining all weapons or getting a dank hat on TF2.
Part of me wants to buy because i know at least it'll be worth the amount of hours i'll put into it, and the other part is always remembering the frustrations of the shitty matchmaking this game have and i'm sure Blizzard won't give the proper post-release support so i'll just be a huge tool faggot.
I'd honestly like to see the average's person reaction to it, but /v/ is a mix of vocal blizzdrones and vocal valvedrones/mindless haters while the subreddit is full of brainwashed blizzdrones comparable only to nintendrones. Even then, due to the game being shallow, the part of the community that has any sort of competitive drive will probably drop it after a few months.
I just want a competitive game to fill the void as they have infinite replayability unlike single player games, but at the same time i don't want to go to autism land, aka fightans.
>>337075731
>Basic gameplay
Stop playing Soldier 76 then dumbass
>>337076517
I don't even know or care about Battleborn's model, because it's Stillborn
>>337076569
Blizzzdrone detected
>>337076569
>first person moba where everyone is a ranged hero
>not basic
>>337076543
>I expected to be more buzzword than TF2, but it's just too buzzword.
>>337076229
>You have nothing to look forward to.
t. 90s kid
You're just the worst kind of filthy casual, the one who play games for the unlocks/achievements, not the challenge and gitting gud.
>>337076746
>implying there's any space for getting gud at overwatch
I'm already crouching since the ceiling is so low
>>337065180
>XD
>>337076456
I found playerbase on PC to be relatively easy to play with. I mean it's still mostly terrible, but at least tolerable.
On consoles it's a whole different story. Literally every game is filled with down syndrome retards and afkers. Not once have I heard anyone on the mic whos balls have dropped.
>>337076696
>casual
>buzzword
stop posting any time.
>>337075525
yeah after playing for 40 hours this is how i feel too. essentially these are the main problems
>counterpicking is too strong and also mandatory
so many things are such strong counters to other things that it's just not fun. reaper gibs tanks like crazy. mccree gibs squishies like crazy. mei fucks over anyone who fights in melee. i swear, tf2 was never this bad about it.
>heroes are too simple and easy to play
mccree is flashbang and mouse 2 for literally free kills in melee range. just sit in an enclosed space and use that flashbang. you will never have to do it differently, and it will pretty much always work. roadhog is hook and mouse1 and melee, and it kills every 200 HP class. bastion is point and click. and most of the ultimates are like giving your hero an easy mode.
there are some good and interesting hero designs, like genji and, i can't believe it, toblerone, who actually take some skill to use their abilities effectively and their ultimates don't just give them free kills necessarily. toblerone's turret is pretty bad for anything except cutting down tracers and other escape artists, so you really need to be good at landing his rivet gun shots and constantly throwing armor and watching your flanks etc. i wish more heroes were like those two.
>not enough maps or content
tf2 was pretty barebones too, though. there will be more content, i'm sure.
but this is coming off from playing 40 hours of the game in a very short time. i could just be burnt out.
>>337076879
See you in the pro scene then, since you mastered this game in 5 whole days :^)
>>337076895
Casual IS a buzzword, since it doesn't actually mean anything aside from "I don't like this game"
>>337076616
I reckon after the overwatch beta it may pick up. It has a lot more depth. It's just a shame it's a moba and not a hero shooter.
I don't even own the game. Just my two cents.
>>337076746
You can't git gud, The whole game is based around counter picking the defenders.
At least with Battleborn you have things such as mutations and a skill tree that changes the way your character works
>>337077036
Except that's not what casual means.
Again, stop posting any time idiot.
>>337077040
>You can't git gud
Then why the fuck is everyone so fucking awful at it?
>>337076952
>Overwatch
>Pro scene
It's about as credible as the sims 3 pro scene
>>337077145
>Except that's not what casual means.
So enlighten me, what does it mean? No one ever really can define it.
>>337077036
not him, but this game is actually very casual. usually the word is used as a buzzword but casual describes overwatch very well. the heroes in this game have a billion easy abilities that give you kills for free, and the other player can't do much about it, even if he's a very good player. a shitty mccree can take out the best player in the game if he happens to land a flashbang on him (an ability that is incredibly easy to land)
i was hoping for like a tf2 but with more interesting characters but this is more like playing deathmatch in dota or something
>>337077187
Wow, so you're even better than the pros?? You'll really make a lot of money by stomping on them then! We've got ourselves a real prodigy on our hands here!
>>337076952
>implying I haven't had access to the closed alpha/beta since the start
The only thing separating pros from casuals is teamwork. There's hardly any individual skill
>>337077236
Why bother? You'll just jack yourself off saying any given definition is subjective and irrelavent.
>>337077334
Blizzdrones everyone. They eat shit and love it
>>337077036
Casual game = game with removed or simplified mechanics or execution barriers to make the game appealing for a larger/new crowd.
Sure /v/ likes to meme around with this word just like the "cuck" word, but if you can't figure out the real meaning, then you probably should follow that guy's advice.
Inb4 you tell me that OW has characters with even REMOTELY similar skill ceiling to that of Soldier/Scout/Demo or that sniping in OW isn't way easier than in TF2.
>>337061715
I was on the fence before and I'm on the fence now. Shit maps, shallow, bad balancing. Feels like something you'd just pick up for a few matches every now, nothing worth $40. On the other hand, I'm having some decent fun. Already getting tired of this lack of balance though.
>Defense on payload
>Other team got the payload to the point, just not enough to capture it
>Three teammates leave, I'm mei, remaining two teammates switch to bastion, 3:30 minutes left
>Just icicle people then heal to stall when they get close or Q if I have it
>Plop down ice wall under me when I or they get released
>Bastions killing them in the meantime
>Successfully stall for THREE MINUTES using this
Christ
So is there a way I can counter Mercy's ult, besides never killing anyone besides her first in a teamfight?
>>337076662
>everyone is a ranged hero
>who is Reinhardt
>who is Reaper
>who is Winston
I'm picking it up because of the beta. And the fact that I have friends who are all gonna play it.
>>337077165
WoW and Hearthstone players. They have literal brain damage. Being more specific, mainfags, waifufags, people with no game sense and not understanding how the counterpicks goes (this one is legit, though, as only those who followed some streams for a bit understand it, but soon it'll become common knowledge).
Im having fun with it and I'll probably buy it but I really feel like the skill ceiling wont be too high.
In tf2, the soldier starts out with you just shooting rockets and maybe some melee once in a while. You can do pretty good at the game like this, its a very low skill floor. But over time you start learning the maps, and learning how to rocket jump around them, and how to juggle people in the air and whatnot, its a really high skill ceiling. Almost all of the classes in tf2 are like this. In overwatch, I cant really see anything like this happening. All of the characters are so barebones, that mastering them is easy. Within just three games as junkrat, I was able to consistently steer people into my bear traps with the detonator. Like, put the beartrap down somewhere, then throw a mine at someone and launch them into the bear trap, consistently. It wont be long before everybody is too good to progress.
>>337077442
So you can't actually define it, then? So it really is a meaningless buzzword?
>>337077739
I'm sorry, does Reaper not shoot shotguns and Winston not have whatever electricity beam that hits multiple people within its (short) range
reinhardt is the only one you have. So forgive me Anon, it's a game where 95.2% of the heroes are ranged.
>>337077437
You don't actually believe this, do you?
>>337077849
That can't just be it though, because console players are even worse.
>>337077952
Two anons already gave you their definitions. You're pretty much proving my point.
Really if you don't know what the word casual means by now you shouldn't be posting on /v/.
>>337061715
You're one of those people that love movies with twists and have no appreciation of craft or replay-ability.
Old school FPS had you see everything available in the game from one map. They were fun because the most minute aspects of the game were enjoyable, and together they functioned into a streamline, positive response system.
If you don't like the game, you wouldn't play the Beta. If you won't pay $40 for it, you don't like it very much or are very poor. None of your comments give any commentary on the game other than "my opinion>your opinion"
>>337078118
That's literally this entire fucking board
>>337077450
>Casual game = game with removed or simplified mechanics or execution barriers to make the game appealing for a larger/new crowd.
So good game design is casual.
>>337078118
>>337078278
>If you don't like the game, you wouldn't play the Beta.
And if you don't play the Beta, your opinion is null and void becasue you never actually played the game.
So basically the game is infalliable.
>>337078109
>because console players are even worse.
They are choosing to play FPS with a controller, what did you expect?
>open level up crate
>top tier widowmaker skin
Well good to know I blew all my rng luck on the beta where everything will get reset
>>337070836
buy the non ce edition, its blizzard tricking you
>>337078319
>I don't understand the English language
I said play, not played, as in, you are still playing the game while simultaneously complaining about playing the game.
I would like to see player stats on release and a couple weeks after, because I'm not sure how well this game is going to do based on Blizzard focusing so much on characters that the game around them seems rather lacking.
>>337078312
Good game design and designing to sell well are different
I have more fun flying around or using the grappling hook than with the actual combat.
>>337062748
Putting a ball through a hoop is harder than pressing Q and instakilling an entire team.
>>337078312
Not really no. All you're saying is that you're a casual.
>>337078504
It's going to die faster than the last wow expansion
>>337078558
Well-designed games sell well
>>337062803
Shit balance? How? For tf2 that is
>>337078687
>argument ad populum
try again
>>337078628
I've enjoyed playing basketball more than the combat.
>>337078664
All you're saying is that you enjoy artificial difficulty
>>337078118
Nah I'm the kind of person that likes a high skill ceiling or a lot of content. This game is shallow AND has no content for full price. That's a terrible combination.
The game's just too goddamn shallow, its like it was designed from the ground up to limit any and all creativity and mechanical skill in favor of rock-paper-scissor balance. Like, when you see a Pharah in the air you don't think as a Reaper or Tracer "I can just heckle her with my secondary and then move in for the kill!" because a) you don't have secondaries b) even if you did, everybody has the same goddamn movespeed and there's absolutely no way around this other than stupid-ass cooldowns.
The option to just outplay your counter isn't an option, the most effective decision by a fucking mile is to switch classes. When the most important decision you make to deal with your counter is some metagame bullshit about hero counters, your game is shallow as fuck and isn't worth playing.
Speaking of shallow: you're literally never going to see awesome highlights or frags like in TF2 or Tribes. No Scouts dancing around an entire team meatshotting 8) all of them to death, no sick blue pl8s while going 600 sanics. Just "wow my abilities were off cooldown" or "my finger accidentally brushed Q but here's a potg anyways" because the height of mechanical skill in this game is aiming slightly better and maybe strafing somebody's shots with your slow-ass movespeed.
>>337078628
It would be so much better if the movement wasn't dog shit.
>>337078837
>having to earn your kills through aim, map awareness, and proper positioning is artificial difficulty
>>337077450
Also just to add, even if any of the characters had high skill ceiling characters in OW, they still would have a hard counter to them, so all your dedication into gitting gud would go to waste because the WoW/HS/moba/gamergirl picked Winston, Mcree, Reaper, Rein (depends on map and section) or some dumb shit like that that requires a really laughable amount of skill to shut your high skill ceiling hero.
>>337078312
For a competitive game, yes. The best example of casual competitive game is actually TF2, as it has a pretty low skill floor but a really high skill ceiling on 4 out of the 9 classes. The low floor gives the game a large playerbase and the high ceiling makes people invested and retain the playerbase for the years to come. You can't make a competitive game with low ceiling and expect it to have any longevity, and just to remember, me, you and 99% of /v/ don't own any videogames company stocks, so please don't bring sales numbers or other irrelevant data for a consumer.
>>337078687
Not true. A game can be well designed while not appealing to a large player base and end up with low sales
>>337078686
I'm pretty sure WOW is doing fine and still generating tons of money.
>>337078837
>artificial difficulty
Speaking of buzzwords.
anyway 2/10 for your ebin troll effort. You can go back to eating your own shit now.
>>337075313
Fucking. This.
>>337078504
>you are still playing the game while simultaneously complaining about playing the game.
Well yeah, the beta is still going. That doesn't make anon's opinion suddenly invalid just because he plays the game he doesn't like.
Did you think he posted his opinions while alt-tabbed in the game?
>it's a map that's heavily stacked against offense
Oh wait that's every map
I like it. Feels a lot like quake 3.
I'm kind of mixed between this and tf2. They both have good ups and downs to them and TF2 is still a very solid and pretty balanced game for being 9 years old.
>>337079007
That's why they moved to a free to play model and has less subs than the last 3 expanisons.
Me
Not worth 40$ Unfortunately I became a tracerfag so its really not worth it for one character
If hey add that mod support like they mentioned i'll be all over it. I want to make a Halloween map
I had absolutely no interest in this game but I was bored and decided to try the beta.
I actually enjoyed it, and I like the game more than I thought I would. I know it isn't hardcore or deep or competitive enough for the tryhards here, but I am honestly not that good at FPS and I don't really play them nowadays. This game is casual for sure but I don't care. I hadfun. If it was $20 or $30 I would probably preorder it, but as of now I am not sure. I feel like it needs more content.
Also, he porn and girls are pretty great, and my dick may preorder the game. I used to look down on smf porn but I have come to appreciate it for what it is.
>>337061715
Me
I was just disappointed with the skill ceiling. I was expecting tf2 tier fly around the map with demoman and soldier but you cant and it sucks.
>>337075313
MNC maps would be fucking perfect. Honestly this game feels like what SMNC should have been.
>>337079268
Yep. I can't imagine competent teams being able to take point B in most games. The ability to setup shop at point B for most maps is insane
>>337079469
This. First thing I did was get on junkrat and mine jump and to my disappointment you hardly move
>>337079335
>Feels a lot like quake 3
>>337079520
Eh, long enough respawn timers and communication on a team with a coordinated push could take it. I wouldn't be surprised to see a team switch to a widowmaker just to try and get a pick before pushing in.
>>337079051
>Speaking of buzzwords.
It's not though
>>337079170
I would not be surprised.
>>337079337
What free to play model retard?
Play to 20?
>>337073890
>And got progressively cheaper as it gained more content.
>It's $5 minimum for a non-f2p version with a dead playerbase and broken economy
>Weapons have been loaded into it until the entire game became a broken mess of (I don't use this word a lot becuase it's autistic af) MEME builds to prove your dick is bigger than the other guy
>the game is only alive because russian bots are laundering money/farming with bots to sell keys on the Steam market
>if you don't have an unusual hat or rare strange skin you're literally garbage and shouldn't be allowed to play spy or sniper
The only thing Blizzard needs to take from TF2 right now is how customizable the fucking game was. Mad respect. Great player created maps, modes, etc. Ironically the community is what killed the game. I honestly don't think I'll play Overwatch if I can't create my own server down the line.
>>337079335
>feels a lot like quake 3
Kys my man
>>337079337
Its only logical that a game is going to decrease in its player-base over time. That it is still extremely popular to this day and generating revenue is a resounding success, perhaps the greatest in all of video games.
>>337077619
Mei is the ultimate stall hero.
>tfw you make half the enemy team waste 12s with chasing + ice block + ice wall
>get in match with a replacement with 2 min left, cart didn't move at all
>enemy has 5 meis and 1 widow
>pick Tracer, shit on them and almost solo push the cart to the 1st check point
>they change to a standard teamcomp
Kek. Lost the game anyway.
>People keep mentioning $60
I'm actually a little bit disgusted by how many of you faggots have even looked into buying an FPS on a console.
It's fun, and I have fun every time I boot up the beta, but I don't see myself playing regularly enough to feel like I got my money's worth.
I'll just keep getting a large drink whenever I go to taco bell and hope for the best.
>>337079828
Who fucking cares retard
Goddamn, you faggots who keep mentioning this are no worse than the no content memers
>>337079828
It's a fun casual game, why not play on a fun casual platform? Plus at least it's more difficult to aimbot on ps4/xbone.
>>337079684
You can play for free using in game gold dumbass.
Why am I not suprised to find WoWdrones in an Overwatch thread.
>>337079716
Pretty sure Blizzard has said they don't plan on letting anyone have their own servers. There will also be no mods or community made maps
I wasn't planning on it, but I liked the beta enough that I preordered it onthe xbone because my elite controller is configured just perfect for it.It has a few shit spots but the level of chaos that happens in matches is a sight to behold.
I'm also fairly sure it will be big on /v/, because /v/ is so fucking tsundere for it that it's painful to watch.
>>337079663
>artificial difficulty is not a buzzword
>casual is
You are just desperate for those (You)s huh kid.
>>337079982
I remember PC fags being mad about D3 on consoles, it's the same shit
Just mad that it exists on consoles
You know it's pretty fun, but I don't think I'm gonna buy it.
Not at the very least until they have more content out for it. I would probably still have fun for a while but there's just not a lot there right now.
>>337080127
wew nice straw man
>FPS
>Controller
Just hang yourself with the cord.
I was retarded as fuck for pre-ordering it, if it ever went down to $20 maybe I'd get it but don't think I'll bother with more than a few games a day. It's just too shallow, and blizzard fags are too retarded to rely on them for teamwork. I'm hoping the price tag keeps poor idiot players from infecting the playerbase but whatever.
>>337077969
>Doing the math
>>337080127
More like mad because the games are designed with consoles in mind, limiting what they can do on PC
>>337079982
>>337080127
It's much less fun on consoles than it is on PC, and I say this as someone who enjoys console shooters.
There really hasn't been any noticble hacking in the beta so far. And unlike FROM Blizzard is actually pretty good about their anticheat protection.
Meanwhile anyone with a XIM or ChronusMAX will easily destroy people on consoles.
>>337080031
Yeah just like /v/ was so fucking tsundere for The Division, and Battlefront, and Evolve, and so on.
Don't kid yourself, this is just a holdover for the TF2/LoL audience to take a break and play the game for the novelty.
>>337079716
The b2p and the f2p communities are completely different, they're not the same people at all. What happened to TF2 is the same shit that's happening in Europe with the immigrants.
I'm on the fence and the beta doesn't help.
What I played was fun, but it's the same experience I had with TF2 many years ago and that was at a lower price.
I'm going to buy it, if only to be a massive healslut while playing Mercy (best girl). Either that or imagining her mommy domming me.
>>337061715
Is that drawn by a Skullgirls artist? It looks like a similar art style, and I can't find the original online.
>but sixty dollars on console is a joke and forty on PC isn't much better.
$40 is pretty much 33% better than $60. Pretty sizeable difference imo.
>>337080661
You've got some decent taste.
I'll probably have to look into the classes more, the first one I chose was Mercy and I think I was pretty shit at it.
>>337080560
You need to pay attention more. /v/ shit on those games in general. The difference between Overwatch and those games is that while /v/ is still shitting on it (which par for the course with every big game), their complaints are also a lot more specific than normal.
>>337080821
I actually play way more Mei than Mercy but it's fun to healslut meme, plus I think she's best girl. I played a few other classes today and it was a lot of fun. I learned that I'm shit at playing a DPS class.
>>337079716
>The only thing Blizzard needs to take from TF2 right now is how customizable the fucking game was
I had to sell like 2mill worth of in-game gold in Guild Wars 1 just to get a friend to buy me Team Fortress. I had an incredibly shitty PC and because of how customizable the game was I was able to find some texture pack that gave me a SOLID 40-50 FPS when I used to play with around 20 at the lowest possible config you could imagine.
>>337081104
Mercy seems like a top tier waifu but so far I've had by far the most fun playing symmetra
>>337080834
>their complaints are also a lot more specific than normal.
Yeah, nah. Can't say about Evolve but Anons on /v/ were very specific about the issues with Battlefront and The Division. And I mean they tore the two games inside and out. Not just shitting on AAA games for the sake of it like neo /v/ likes to meme about.
And while those games went on to sell millions of copies they also died off after about a month or so. Because 90% of the actual playerbase only cared about them for the novelty. Hell /tcdg/ doesn't even fucking exist anymore, and it was the type of game meant for /vg/.
So if anything you need to pay attention more.
>>337080127
Overwatch in consoles means that the maps and heros designs have to be gamepad friendly and it prevents 7v7+ or game modes that aren't viable on console due to hardware limitation.
Sure there were some autists complaining about the 4 or 6 skill bar on D3 back in the day, but in the end it wasn't a big deal and as far as i'm aware, there wasn't any significant loss, even if only potential, due to D3 being eventually on consoles.
>not buying it for the qts
>>337080127
I love how there are people still in denial over Diablo 3 being designed for consoles in mind.
>>337079767
WoW has gone through so many different patches and expansions that it's hardly recognizable now compared to what the game was in its original state. There's no natural reason why WoW decreased in playerbase overtime that's somehow out of Activision/Blizzard's control.
WoW's remaning popularity lives purely off of brand awareness and China where there's a cottage industry of gold selling. It's nowhere near the powerhouse MMO it once used to be, and that's 100% Blizzard's fault.
>>337078042
He's right. Individual skill means very little in Overwatch.
>>337081759
>He's right. Individual skill means very little in Overwatch.
So a Widowmaker with 1 hour played would be just as effective as one with 100 hours played?
>>337081846
Yea mostly.
100 hours isn't a lot for a character, get a few hundred than maybe.
Playing her for an hour is about as effective as playing her for 100
I was going to buy it onPS4but
>Literally no AFK kick system
>Always get put right back into the game I just left
>Matchmaking sometimes decides to just not find more players, occasionally entire games go without a spot being filled
It's unbelievably shit.
>>337081389
I still don't think you understand. /v/ is bitching anout characters like they bitch about weapons in Dark Souls. /v/ is trying to give constructive criticism. /v/ is suggesting balance changes. Neither Battlefront nor Division got that.
>playing widow
>18 killstreak while im lvl 6 and my enemy is 36 reaper and 33 mccree
>nah.jpg
>>337081971
>Yea mostly.
You're full of shit anon
>>337079716
Vanilla TF2 had NOTHING
What part of this do you not fucking understand
>>337061715
>painfully slow to add balance patches
>heroes of the storm practically updates weekly, with big changes happening at least once or twice a month.
If that's what you consider slow then, go ahead and don't get it. It's all how you feel about the game.
>>337082118
Did you read the rest of the post?
I wasn't going to get it at all until I actually played it.
The entire aesthetic turned me off at first but now I'm searching the corners of the internet for shards of lore I cannot get enough guise
So glad they extended the masterbeta
>>337082197
The rest of the post is equally full of crap
There is a world of difference between an hour of experience and a hundred hours
>>337082175
Solid gameplay?
>>337075070
where is it 40?
amazon has it for 60
>>337082175
Out-of-the-box TF2 had a lot of gameplay, it was just horribly balanced.
Anyone wanna team up on the xbone?
No mics required?
>>337075826
Congratulations. You are now on a watchlist.
>>337082349
PC is 40
>>337061715
i started off fun then it turned it constant annoyance while playing due to map designs and fire rate/damage being awful
>people whining about mei
>while playing as such classics as turbo caffiene ninja with instant fuck you deflect button and 30 headshots a second get out of jail free bong
>even fucking mc flashbangs feel the need to whine
Getting froze is annoying, sure, but it's hardly the most broken thing,Honestly though I'm just happy my waifu turned out so good
>>337061715
Lmao senpai just play around the ultimates
>>337082615
Whenever I play, I see a fuckload of Genjis and Hanzos. I really don't get why.
That said, the game is okay, albeit simplified. At the very least, I do okay in the game, which is better than when I play other shooters.
That said, I dislike how more focus is put on killing others than clearing objectives. If I'm Reinhart and I defend the point for the entire match, shouldn't I get some credit instead of showcasing a triple kill?
I was on the fence about buying it, and I still am. I'm waiting to see how Blizzard handles new content and their in-game store before I buy.
I didn't think the game would feel so sterile until I played the beta.
Just everything about it feels really bland, the characters, the combat in general, the style.
law breakers looks a lot better
>>337083443
>Whenever I play, I see a fuckload of Genjis and Hanzos. I really don't get why.
Genji is the OMG SO COOL cyborg ninja
Hanzo is the OMG SO BADASS samurai archer
>>337064358
Sorry man, you've got shit taste. It just isn't good.
>>337084290
Good argument, at least that guy had one
How do I get gud at Widowmaker? My aim is horrible;_;
>>337061715
Thinking the same, anon. Its incredibly addicting and I binged 29 hours into it, but I think I'm going to pass if I don't experience withdrawals.
>>337079443
I think you might be me.
>>337086581
Improve your horrible aim.
>>337071124
nice bait
>>337075332
None, he's another shitposter.
>>337086581
muscle memory, once you build it up you'll at least land SOME of your shots. The only reason I can even play widowmaker sometimes is years of trial and error with tf2's sniper
>>337073890
>Overwatch is an Activision Blizzard game. It isn't getting cheaper for years.
Other than the fact that SC2, LotV, HotS, D3, RoS, WoW and expansions all go on sale all the fucking time.
If you want more content out the gate, buy Battleborn.
If you're satisfied with what you see in Overwatch and dont mind waiting, then preorder or get it when it releases.
After beta testing both, id rather play overwatch because grinding out heroes and gear in battleborn is tedious and id rather just jump into a casual game of overwatch after a day of work.
>>337063185
This. I'm only going to get it for the downtime between games or if I only have 15-30m to kill. Something to fall back on when I'm bored or single player games
>>337081530
I almost did after playing the beta for an hour or so. Then I played it more and decided it's not worth it. I'll stick to screenshots, fan art and sfm stuff. Now if the game was in third person I'd be more inclined to get it.
>>337061715
I wanted to try it since the closed beta just to see if it was actually worth the money, it lacks the content so its definitely not worth 40 bucks
So how does this game stack up against 2009-2011 era TF2, for those who've been playing this current beta often?
>>337065180
>it's your fault for not knowing he would teleport behind you from across the map and instant kill you and everyone around you!
yes, it literally is your fault for not knowing.
you know he can teleport and you know what his Q is, and both have huge telecasts. its your your fault.
>it's your fault for not knowing exactly where hanzo fired his ult!
yes, it's your fault for not hearing his shout that broadcasts throughout the entire map and not backing off the objective. it moves slow as shit and it doesnt even instakill you, giving you all the time in the world to move away. its your fault.
>it's your fault for forgetting bastion's turret is the strongest weapon in the game, but also has the range of a sniper rifle
yes it's your fault for trying to w+m1 a stationary turret, and no it doesnt, you stupid whiny faggot.
>>337081759
thanks doc
Agreed. I think the 20 or so hours are plenty for me. Plus it's a game that you have to rely in your team not sucking or you can't have fun, which is really shitty.
>>337062748
>he didn't unlock the secret ending to basketball
>>337061715
>buy TF for 20$
>become F2P next month with NO announecment
>all that they gave me is shitty soldier hat
not gonna fall again, this game gonna be F2P when the sales down. You can see the sign everywhere that they has F2P model on ready.
>>337088023
Far inferior in almost every way.
It's basically only worth a try if you can never go back to TF2 because you loathe its current state.
>>337066479
If you go to the statistic menus they talk about a competitive mode so I'm guessing this is going to be the main feature and they didn't include it in this open beta?
Still, they're asking too much for it.
>>337061715
I plan to buy it after playing the beta, I had a lot of fun with friends and I think it'll continue to be fun a ways down the road. I'll probably still play TF2 from time to time as well, that's still the one game me and my one friend I game with always come back to without fail.
