Why did Riku wear a blindfold?
Symbolism
>>337037331
I think he was on the verge of being Norted, so he put on the blindfold to hide the signature yellow eyes.
DARKNESS
something about it preventing ansem taking over.
That part of the series is pretty vauge and im pretty sure it was porrly translated too as Riku kept talking about "smelling" people
>>337037331
Riku had been in the darkness for too long so being in the light hurt. The blindfold stopped it.
What happened to Sora's mom?
>>337037331
Because he's an edgelord and Nomura wanted to make him kewl.
What was the in-game reasoning for the Cavern of Remembrance? I mean surely people had to know this underground area existed.
Didn't it keep his darkness sealed because when he took it off he went full ansem modo in order to beat the shit out of Roxas.
Also it looks pretty dark and mysterious and deviantart eats that shit up thus making more fans of the series.
it keeps his guardian from coming
>>337037331
Because darkness friends darkness hearts darkness darkness and so on.
That was UNDENIABLE PROOF that we TOTALLY OWNED you LAMERS
>>337039214
>Because darkness friends darkness hearts darkness darkness and so on.
Literally the entire plot summarized in a concise, coherent statement.
I imagine the project developers sitting in an office after reviewing KH3 projection reports, drinking american beers and talking shit about KH while Nomura listens at the door, crying
>>337038491
Still waiting for sora to come down from his room for dinner. Wondering whats taking him so long.
>>337039479
>Literally the entire plot summarized in a concise, coherent statement.
Cool meme familio
>>337038673
>Cavern of Remembrance
the what?
>>337038673
>>337039886
you had to go there like twice to progress the story, I don't know why people wouldn't know about it, other than its called the cavern of remembrance
>>337039486
>Kairi tells her that Sora went to another world with a talking duck and dog.
>>337037331
Ansem
Ansm
Asm
Ausm
Autsm
Autism
Too keep us from melting at the sight of those crystal blue eyes ;3
>>337039986
I just looked it up, it's only in the final mix version. So i don't have an answer for you.
because
DEATH AWAITS YOU
DEATH AWAITS YOU
DEATH AWAITS YOU
DEATH AWAITS YOU
>>337037331
cause he is a faggot
>>337037331
>>337038491
>>337039486
>>337039989
I think it would be a great twist if the game became meta as fuck with Master Xehanort trying to fuck with Sora.
>Master Xehanort kidnaps his mother(or parents) in KH3
>Calls him selfish because he never returned him and left his parents for a year worrying about him, thinking he was dead, saying that Sora is a terrible son. Etc.
Would be funny as fuck if they even showed a flashback of Sora's mother getting kidnap after she was calling out for Sora. So she's literally been kidnapped for 2 years.
(This would work because of the retarded different dimension bullshit, so one of the Xehanort's technially coulda been there)
>>337039624
>Facts are memes
>>337039986
You don't have to go the Cavern of Remembrance ever for the main story and my guess is that the actual Chamber is so far within the Cavern people just assumed that it was all just industrial infrastructure all the way through.
>>337037331
It keeps his Ansem form at bay, seeing light was a pain to his eyes, and so he needed toSEVER THAT BONDby engulfing himself in Darkness. That's all I remember from Re:CoM with the second point coming from what anons in this thread say.
>>337040549
>For a year
Lel it's been more than that.
He was also frozen for a year.
>>337040702
Pretty much pic related. Forgot to add onto the post.
>>337040765
Riku isn't nearly on the same level of edge that Sasuke was.
>>337039486
It's okay, she literally forgot about him for a year. After that before he comes home in KH2, she thought he went missing the night of the storm.
What do cashews and Xehanort have in common?they're nuts
>>337040853
...yet
>>337041008
Did you not play the games? Riku is unlikely to be that way again. A major part of his character arc is him getting over that shit.
>>337041113
>character arc
what are you talking about, this is Kingdom Hearts
>>337040647
Only in the world of memesters would that be a fact.
>HEARTS LIGHT DARKNESS XEHANORT ANSEM MICKEY GOOFY DONALD SORA RIKU KAIRI AQUA TERRA VENTUS LEA AXEL ROXAS BRAIG XEMNAS ISA HYDRA'S BACK FEEL THE HEAT COME GUARDIAN
That's a bit more comprehensive meme list but it's still not close.
>>337040647
>memes are facts
>>337041214
Just fuck off, memeposter.
>>337040853
You're right on that account, but all the talk of Darkness, Friendship, and screaming out their bud's name makes me smile and fucking chuckle at the hilarity of it.
>>337041214
So you didn't play the games
>>337040710
Exactly. Xehanort can say he's a terrible person for trying to be a hero to others but not his own mother.
It would make Sora look like a huge dick.
>>337037772
Everything that Riku does since the beggining of the series until halfway DDD can be explained with darkess, I'm not joking.
>>337041214
He does have one. I know this is /v/ and hurr hurr Kingdom Hearts, but come on nigga.
So does Lea get a keyblade because of Nortification and he's on the side of good because muh friendship?
>>337041392
Everything can be explained with memes. Trust me, I know memes.
>>337041325
>>337041353
>>337041398
Not meme-ing, I really don't know Riku's arc.
He was friends with sora, he got abducted by maleficent, he becomes mickey's bud, then helps sora beat a boss.
Everything in KH is so fragmented, its bullshit.
If you consider a dotted line a proper arc, then fine. I can't accept KH's story as justifiable
>Playing through KH2 HD FM
>Took 3 hours to finally get to playing as Sora, and another 1 just to get the fuck out of Twilight Town and get to the Gummi Ship
>>337041219
>No HAYNER PENCE OLETTE
Shit list.
>>337038843
This. Riku kept the blindfold on to prevent himself from becoming Seeker of Darkness 2.0, although authorially speaking it was likely because Nomura wanted an excuse to portray him as mysterious and brooding or whatever.
And honestly that's a major part of why Kingdom Hearts's writing is so fucking terrible. A lot of Nomura's plot elements are there simply for the sake of being there because it's his style to have edgy shit in his games, and when pressed for an actual plot reason he can only provide shitty ones because he never had a plot reason to include those things in the first place. He's all style and zero substance.
>>337041653
They needed another Keyblade wielder and Lea literally asked for one.
>>337041791
>Everything in KH is so fragmented, its bullshit.
People are literally telling you he has a clear character arc, just say you haven't played the games. Riku story isn't that hard to piece together.
>>337041791
Even in the fucking first game he goes from friend -> envious friend who gets turned to the bad side with the lure of power through darkness -> realising his mistake and being Sora's friend again
>Everything in KH is so fragmented, its bullshit.
It fucking isn't unless you literally just play 1 & 2 then complain how nothing makes sense.
I hope he's in KH3
>>337041809
>>337041791
You only played the first game....
>>337041979
But I have.
Fine, he has an arc, its not good though.
he's in about 10% of the story
I like the games for what they are, but i can't concede that the story is good.
>>337042108
>Oswald becomes the Kaguya of the series and betrays Xehanort
>>337042053
>>337042186
yep only played 1 and 2.
what, am I missing something from the portables?
>>337041797
The entire Roxas beginning is what makes me not want to replay KH2. I can get over some slow starts but Jesus Christ.
>>337042319
Pretty much the entire story.
>>337037331
Because he was blinded by the light because he is darkness or some shit. Who the fuck cares?
I stopped trying to understand KH plot when I played CoM and just enjoy the anime crazyness.
>>337042206
>But I have
Just 1 and 2?
>Fine, he has an arc, its not good though.
Don't move the goalposts.
>>337042319
>am I missing something from the portables?
Most of the story.
>>337042331
You could just skip the cutscenes
>>337042319
All of the fucking games so far are part of the same saga. They all tie in.
>>337042331
It literally takes like 40 minutes tops unless you wander around like an idiot.
Slow starts are like Persona 3 & Persona 4 where it takes several hours to get going anywhere.
>>337042265
>Not Oswald turning out to be Mickey's Nobody or whatever
/v/ is gonna be a straight nightmare if KH3 ever comes out.
>>337042543
He has returned to us.
>>337042389
>>337042431
>>337042515
why would they put most of the story in side games
I've even got 1.5 and 2.5,
do i need to play all that other shit to understand whats going on
>>337042515
>Slow starts are like Persona 3 & Persona 4 where it takes several hours to get going anywhere.
>>337042331
KH is my favorite series. But KH1 is hands down the worst intro of a game that I have ever played.
P3 and P4 are at least interesting. And while KH2 intro is longer, at least things are fucking happening. KH1 is just fucking dull, it doesn't matter, it's only purpose is "hey, these 2 are your friends, remember that, okay?" And then you go to the still boring traverse town and do that stupid bullshit of trying to find donald and goofy.
>>337042707
>why would they put most of the story in side games
Because they are part of the same fucking Saga.
This has been the case ever since the second one, which is Chain of Memories.
Arguably Days and Coded are somewhat skippable but storywise nothing else is.
>>337042707
They aren't treated like side games
![royal_struggle_by_twisted_wind-d4o43lb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Gp5LiHP.jpg "royal_struggle_by_twisted_wind-d4o43lb[1].jpg")
>>337042663
>In Epic Mickey Oswald doesn't have a heart because of being forgotten
>Was built up as a tragic character
They could totally do something like that in KH3.
>>337042707
The numbered games are the ones that star Sora, Donald, and Goofy. That's really all of their significance with the numbers.
>1.5 and 2.5
You have everything you need right there outside of 2.8. 1.5 and 2.5 have all of the actual games that have been released except for Days, Re:Coded, and Unchained/X. The first two are in as movies. The last one is currently a mobile/broswer game.
>>337042872
>Arguably Days and Coded are somewhat skippable but storywise nothing else is.
well thank you for tolerating my shitposts then.
If I play everything on 1.5 and 2.5 and eventually 2.8 to completion, will i have everything then?
>>337042838
>P3 and P4 are at least interesting.
Bad joke senpai.
Especially 4 is just slow ass nothing happening while everyone wants your D. And then it continues on throughout the entire game with your Scooby Doo gang.
Persona 3 gets into something happening at like 1 hour mark and until 2h+ you're still sitting in very limited environment with nothing happening.
>>337042707
because they're treated like full titles and not like some cheap spin-off.
Most of the games are pretty important for the story in KH
>>337043016
Yes.
>>337043016
Yes.
For BBS you need to play through all the characters to get everything. You should go Terra -> Ventus -> Aqua.
>>337043016
Yes. Watch the Days movie. Watch the recoded movie. Play RECOM, Play BBS.
>>337043038
>>337043060
>>337043110
>>337043116
alright, thanks guys.
They could have marketed that better.
As in make each game a numbered release or state that it's a prequel or sequel because the average person doesnt buy spinoffs or things labeled as such
>>337043030
>Especially 4 is just slow ass nothing happening while everyone wants your D. And then it continues on throughout the entire game with your Scooby Doo gang.
>Persona 3 gets into something happening at like 1 hour mark and until 2h+ you're still sitting in very limited environment with nothing happening.
They both are just setting you up for what you have to do in the game. I found it charming. Especially meeting the people and such.
KH1 collecting log bullshit prepares you for nothing.
And the gummi ship bullshit is terrible.
>>337043294
>As in make each game a numbered release or state that it's a prequel or sequel because the average person doesnt buy spinoffs or things labeled as such
Us KH sheep do because we learned with KHCOM we need to buy the subtitled games.
I always feel bad for the fuckers who played KH1, and then KH2.
>>337043453
yeah i basically had no clue what the fuck was happening in all of KH2
at least a "previously on..." would have alerted me to the fact that i was missing 50% of the story.
I apologise again for the shitposts, I'll admit that i enjoyed the KH games at the assumption that the story was ass and didnt need to be looked into, now I see i was wrong.
So thank you to all the anons calling me on my shit, i learned something today
So, watched a lp of it.
Can somebody explain to me what the hell is the whole series about?
I only got "FF and Disney mix" and "Darkness x100000"
>>337043371
It doesn't matter when it's such a slog to get through all the chans, sans, senpais and whatnots.
YOU JUST MET ME, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE GLUED TO MY DICK!?
>>337043453
KH1 to KH2 isn't that bad, honestly. But 2 to 3 would be hell.
>Dude who is Isa/Xehanort/Terra/Aqua/Ventus/probablyRoxas/MaybeXion (pls no meme)/Lea/Braig/Eraqus
>>337043745
>"Darkness x100000"
Did you just watch the Riku's quest in a nutshell vid and call it a day?
>>337043762
Why do you have a giant space between Maybe and /Lea?
>>337043889
To beg for memes
>>337043732
KHRe/COM prepare for the best story of the whole series. Along with the best Org members.
KH days prepare for feels.
KH recoded prepare to feel your time has been wasted.
KH BBS prepare for best combat, rage, and feels.
>>337043986
I have a spare one, (you) can have it.
>>337043862
Nah, the whole Ansem thing in KH1.
Also, Not Darth Vader out of fucking nowhere
>>337044074
Even in 1 you had the Light/Dark dynamic going. You should also be a bit more forgiving with KH1 since KH was going to be one off game originally.
>Also, Not Darth Vader out of fucking nowhere
You mean Xemnas? He's not out of fucking nowhere and neither is he anything like Darth Vader.
You just made the same mistake as previous poster and forgot to go through Chain of Memories in between the two.
After that you have BBS for heavy prologue for the series, Days for slightly more Organisation stuff and Re: Coded and 3D for sequels to 2.
>>337044038
KH2 had the best combat though
>>337044038
>KH BBS prepare for best combat
That's not KH2
>>337044438
>>337044584
Don't argue with BBS lovers, it amounts to nothing.
>>337044438
>>337044584
I love KH2, but all it is is pressing X. There isn't any depth?
>>337044369
Nigga i only watched a SA LP, saw this thread and wanted to ask what in the everloving damn was going on.
Also, you see a guy in black, that shoots lightning out of his hands and wield a red beam sword and you don't immediately think of Vader?
Just spoonfeed me fampai
>>337044690
balancing the abilities you had equipped as they changed your combos
>>337044690
Stop playing on easy
>>337040991
Way to set yourself up for a joke Carlos. Your jokes are old and keeping all of us inthe dark
>>337044690
Well don't play Final Mix then anon. Terra will not be kind to your asshole.
>>337044798
Alright, what in particular do you want to know?
>>337044798
Yeah, Nomura is a huge fan of Star Wars but other than those Dark Side related powers and weapons (is red inherently for baddies though?) Xemnas isn't anything like Vader.
And funnily enough, Xemnas wears his black/white suit for the best and last fight.
You mean the mysterious figure battle from 1 I guess?
>>337044690
If you play BBS you just press triangle for even less depth, really. And honestly BBS also cuts many mechanics or makes something completely BS like Ven/Aqua invulnerability frames in dodges.
>>337045141
Pretty much everything since as far as i could see from a quick glance it is a xboxhueg multi-medium stuff like .Hack (games, anime, mangas...)
But since it would take 95 threads by itself i'll only ask for a quick and dirty list of events and major players in chronological order
>>337045549
Here's the official character chart from one of the Ultimanias.
And here: http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/d25b/vf01a910fdv9xo4fg.jpg is the main antagonist's timeline from the same book.
This may also be useful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm-NoyqzGkY
KH is one of those series where you can take it how you want; seriously, not-seriously, or in between.
>>337045549
It's hard to give a tl;dr of the plots beyond Xehanort being the ultimate big bad.
>>337045835
I think there's some decent tl;dr image summing up the plots but I don't have it myself
>>337045948
I don't either, I feel like it's something KHfag probably has/had.
>>337046065
I know he does since I've seen him post it.
>>337045549
here's the story in a nutshell:
[some bullshit in land of fairy tales]
millions of years later, Xehanort and his buddy Eraqus become Masters
>Xehanort wants to learn more about the keyblade war, and involves TVA
>shit happens, Terra is lost, Ven is sleep (heart is in Sora), Aqua is in RoD
>years later, Sora Kairi and Edgelord get involved in the keyblading bullshit
>some shit happens for two years
>now Sora, Kairi, and Riku (reformed edgelord) have to venture out and find TVA so they can fight Xehanort and his twelve clones that came literally out of nowhere.
that's the story in a nutshell.
>>337045835
Time Travel? Seriously?
>>337045835
>those images
Oh, my poor poor head
>>337046537
broad strokes, but I'll accept this
>>337046587
A lot of people dislike Dream Drop Distance for that very reason. I know 3D is my least favorite game for that and the fucking Pokemon.
>>337046605
Like I said it's not that hard. If you don't understand something ask, but if you don't and want to stay confused, I won't stop you.
>>337046605
It's easy to read, dude.
>>337046587
It's bluntly explained in DDD, and not really all that crazy when you compare it to the rest of the series
>>337045835
Remember when this game was about Disney?
>>337047997
It was never about Disney.
I'm pretty hyped for KH3, Sora being aware of his surroundings and using spells to transition into flow motion is pretty sweet, plus all the options you're given at any time is mouth watering, I can only hope that forms get in.
>>337045835
>Mickey doesn't consider himself Sora or Riku's friend.
What an arrogant little shit.
>>337041979
The person who made that picture does not understand Riku at all. Hes not suddenly all better in the 3rd panel
>>337042707
Yes you stupid fuck
>>337048908
Don't get excited since you're only going to get let down by Osaka team's incapability of making enjoyable combat.
>>337049462
I liked DDD and BBS so the memes don't apply to me.
>>337049350
Well one the major words on it is Recovery. Compared to how he is in 3D, it's a marked difference between the anger and jealousy he felt in 1, and the self-loathing and guilt he felt in 2.
>>337049516
It's hardly a meme though.
They just can't get it right by having good dodges or simple but satisfying combat. Spamming few overpowered actions all throughout the game and having to grind to unlock abilities is just plain dumb.
Some of it could be excusable if they didn't use the shit tier "you deal fuckall damage and take shitloads of damage" difficulty and instead used KH2's Critical where you deal more damage.
>>337042910
>Mickey and Oswald were best friends long ago. Before Mickey weilded a keyblade
> Darkness happens
>Oswald is lost to the darkness
>For whatever reason, Mickey feels responsible
>That is when he starts his keyblade training
>KH3
>Xehanort uses Oswald against mickey
>>337045835
How does Kairi have a Nobody when she never lost her heart?
ITT we make our scramble our names like organization 13 and have others try and guess the real one
I'll start us off easy: Mixj
>>337049516
it's not a meme. The balance in BBS and DDD in particular is fucking awful. DDD is literally spam ballon: the game and BBS is spam surges: the game.
You also get stupid shit like webm related. How was this allowed?
>>337049807
Oswaldfag cut it out.
>>337050291
Namine is an noted loophole. And Kairi kind of did in a very technical nonstandard way. The night DI was attacked and she flew into Sora, her heart hid in his body. When Sora stabs himself with the Keyblade, he freed his and Kairi's hearts. Thus, creating Namine and Roxas.
>>337050291
She "stored" her heart in Sora during the intro of KH1 and it was ripped out of him later (when he turned into a heartless)
>>337050291
>>337050515
So she never really lost her heart to Darkness and cannot create a Heartless due to her POH status, it did technically leave her body*
I don't know how that second part got cut off.
>>337050386
fuck you that was the ultimate shotlock for ventus and yes that shit was OP but we can all agree that the amount of damage we performed with that was equal if not far surpassed by the BS that are reaction commands in kh2. its not a surprise nomura said hes removing them from kh3 they literally instakill at the push of a button
>>337050691
Reaction commands were incredibly fun tho.
>>337037331
Because its just how Kingdom Hearts' story is.
>>337048182
and yet almost every boss in KH was a Disney villain. It didn't go to shit until CoM and KH2.
>>337051186
Oh, is it time?
>>337043371
>interesting
Kek
Persona 4's intro literally dogshits on KH2's in being the biggesg fucking slog to go through, at least 2 allowed me to utilize basic combat in no less than a day or 3 in game.
>>337051186
That doesn't mean it was all about dat Disney. You were literally following Sora trying to find his friends and ending up fighting OC big bad.
And besides that, all of the villains save for Maleficent and Pete (both of which are still prominent) are gone now.
>>337044598
I thought everyone agreed BBS murdered KH2 in combat department.
>>337051549
your opinion =/= everyone's
>>337051549
Combat in BBS was murdered to hell and back.
>Awful Difficulty scaling
>Le 1 shot bosses meme
>Ability grinding instead of getting with levels
>Very few good abilities because of lack of iframes on many & being too flashy
>infinite iframes on both Ventus & Aqua
>Severe lack of stagger could lead to deaths everywhere
Not sure if it had thresholds either.
>>337051758
I'm talking about back then when it released on PSP.
>>337051549
Former has style, Latter has substance.
>>337051920
Could've been early reaction, really.
At first I thought it was nice. Then it just became so stupid with its imbalances and general lack of good abilities.
>>337051925
Said style leads you to an early grave.
>Riku was the series' ultimate personification of edge, yet did a complete 180 to become one of the most based motherfuckers in Kingdom Hearts
Still blows my mind
More like Kingdom farts HA
I've been waiting for 3 since 07 come the fuck on nomura
>>337052486
He went edgy for the right reasons, to help his friends. Same reason helped him defeat his darkness, and now can use both.
>>337052486
its almost like he experienced things and had life changing choices
>>337053241
To be fair he is the standout among a series of static characters that go through events but don't really change all that much
>>337052486
no KH outfit will ever surpass the stylishness and simplicity of this one
>>337053928
>1 belt
>1 Zipper
>They both have actual purpose
We need more of these
>>337053928
I kinda like Sora's KH3 getup. Sleeker and not too much useless shit
also I always thought it was funny and kinda neat how Sora started KH2 in his outgrown 1 outfit. Looking forward to seeing how he gets his new one
![keyblade_masters_by_nuckerbar-d37sirp[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cEJGBB2.jpg "keyblade_masters_by_nuckerbar-d37sirp[1].jpg")
>>337049807
I'd just like to see Oswald, honestly.
Maybe it's because I like him more than Mickey.
>>337037934
>pretty sure it was poorly translated
Nah. Just more half assed, pulled out of thin air, Nomura writing.
>>337054283
I don't like his haircut
>>337054283
that one's alright. the plaid seems a bit out of nowhere but i don't hate it. overall it's decent, i would rank it above his KH1 outfit but below his KH2 outfit. there are a few too many buttons though.
>>337041906
Unappreciated post. Whenever you question something off about the game's plot, this is the exact reason.
I mean Sora is holding Ven's heart simply because they ran into each other for like 2 minutes. Come on, man. A 12 year old could of written a stronger connection between the two characters.
![250px-Sora_(KHIIFM)_KHIIHD[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/KE0COM3.png "250px-Sora_(KHIIFM)_KHIIHD[1].png")
>>337054283
His KH2 design will never be beaten.
>>337054979
>I mean Sora is holding Ven's heart simply because they ran into each other for like 2 minutes
You do realize they met twice right?
>Whenever you question something off about the game's plot, this is the exact reason.
Alright, what do you find off about the plot? I'm sure someone here will help you.
>>337052486
>Becomes a keyblade master over Sora (who is fucking godly with keyblades in KHII) in spite in falling into darkness in the past
I will never accept this retardation. I don't care if the rules were different with different circumstances. Sora saved everyone many times and was duel wielding keyblades without physically holding onto them.
>>337055649
If it makes you feel better, Nomura's interviews imply that he has since passed/will pass early in 3.
It's a fashion statement, what else do you fucking expect from Nomura? Might 'swell shove up 3 belts in your rectum when you're done questioning it all
