So, I've been hearing a lot of people mention that Mei is OP. But why? The only hero I have problems with, is bastion. That motherfucker in a good position is literally fucked up but Mei, c'mon?
People are just salty as hell when a Mei kills her, you get frozen and ez headshot which is more disrespectful than just a random fast death.
Please explain to me why Mei is OP
>>336993902
Because like pyro, everyone hates W+M1.
Also her range is fucking huge with her ult
你好
>>336993902
the only OP class I know is the dwarf
piece of shit steals the glory afk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCZRCjP5t3A
You can't take the thick banter
wallspam
turtling ability (can be compounded with wallspam)
great close range weapon with slowing + freezing + free headshotting after 2 seconds
good long range weapon
great ult
>>336994779
Freeze takes 4 to 5 seconds.
1/3 characters can get out of free for free (reaper, Mcgree, genji, lucio etc.)
Healblockfreeze is only smart to do when nobody is close, if a Mei does it while your close, just set up an easy headshot kill.
>>336994458
She can take my thick batter.
>>336995001
freeze*
Why the fuck are so many people complaining about her? She is easily countered by McCree stun grenade+fan hammer combo since Mei will always try to be up in your shit. You stupid fucks need to realize that characters can get hard countered by other characters.
>>336993902
>making a thread when an Overwatch thread exist
>>336995146
I didn't see you complaining about all the Dark Souls threads we have, pham.
>>336995146
This isn't VG
>>336995131
Except bastion, that robot does not have a hardcounter, every 'counter' depends on the situation.
>>336995307
>bastion
Widowmaker can easily counter Bastion in almost all situations and they are plenty of ults available in this game that punish Bastion for being stationary. Also, Bastion isn't even viable for competitive Overwatch and for good reason, because he is so easy to counter.
>>336995307
Genji works pretty well against him.
>>336993902
The simple fact is that May's kit is overloaded. She's strong at close range, she has great area denial, she has a fucking wall, she has full invuln+self heal, and she also has a snipe alt fire that does a fuckton of damage on a headshot. Blizzard brought up that McCree was good at all ranges and they felt he shouldn't be, so why the fuck does a character with 250 HP and all this utility get to be good at all ranges?
>>336995983
Alot of people don't realize how effective Genji's deflect against Bastion is. Can pretty much instantly kill him
If you don't have a movement skill, you're basically fucked if you get caught by her.
>>336995751
What if bastion is not in line of sight, a.k.a. cramped in a corner? Also even if you kill bastion once with an ult, he'll probably be back before you have your ult again.
>>336996079
If a bastion sees a genji and is not retarded, it will shoot in bursts to see if genji uses the skill. I play Genji and some smart bastions do that, work pretty good as I can only damage him for about 2/3 hp with one reflectburst.
>>336996008
I have to agree with this, I basically only play Mei and she's definitely OP, with the main problem being the icicle. Good solution might be to replace it with an ice blast shotgun-type alt fire, would still be useful in the same combo style that currently exists of freezing with primary then blasting with alt fire,
>>336993902
Most close range heroes struggle with her massively because her freezing gun has quite a generous range and can lock you in place. Shes just a very annoying hero and the only one I really struggle with (sometimes Torbjorn) bastion can be hard countered by a few heroes
i've been a genji main for 4 hours now and can safely say that mei is one of the most bullshit heroes.
250 hp makes her extra chubby.
can freeze you completely setting up for a kill shot in less then a second.
FREE FUCK YOUS to zones with her ult. can setup for multikills easy.
basically i feel as if mei should have her slow/stun nerfed.
>>336996107
Really don't understand why you have so much trouble with him. Competitive Overwatch has shown he is easy to work around and can be destroyed with the right counters. Also, whenever me and my friends deal with him we just pick the best counters against him such as Widowmaker, Pharah, Genji, or Junkrat and just stomp the shit out of him. Maybe its because I play with a team, but I really don't understand where you are coming from on how he is this uncounterable unstoppable hero.
>>336996298
She can somehow us her Ice Heal to ignore McCree stun grenade too. The fact that she can make most traps pointless is infuriating.
>Throw a wall in front of bastion
>He can chew through it anyway
So what, my options are Genji and Pharah?
>>336996298
yeah, Mei is one of the hard counters for Genji. She's got too much health easily burst down like all the 200- heroes, you can't deflect her left click and if she tags you once you're going to get comboed
best you can do is avoid her and poke her at range
I countered Mei pretty well with Junkrat on KOTH once, I dunno if it was just a bad Mei or not but I'd just throw down my bomb and jump away if she got close, and whenever she went into her ice I'd always go over to her and throw a bear trap at her so she'd be stuck as soon as she came out.
>>336993902
>Mei
>OP
How hard is it to just keep your distance from that chubby chipmunk?
Also her head is big enough that you can just aim for it and she is done.
>>336996529
Pick D. Va and meme through him with your dash and reflect.
>>336996529
Hog and hook him
>>336996079
>>336996198
This, when I roll bastion if I see a skinny guy with "sparks" coming off him as I shoot, I instantly stop, wait a second or 2 before firing up again
I've seen SO many bastions just blast at genji
>>336993902
>only hero i have problem with is bastion
fucking cuck
how hard is it to kill someone mounted down that cannot move
>>336996529
typical bastion counters
-genji
-pharah
-junkrat
-widowmaker
-tracer
-hanzo
-mei
-roadhog
BLACK MAN ON SKATES IS THE MOST OP IN THE GAME
>source
facts
>>336996298
>Genji main
>Complain how Mei is OP
No shit dude, she counters you hard. Don't main heros and try to focus on countering other heros. Start with McCree, he counters Mei very easily
>>336993902
>people mention that Mei is OP. But why? The only hero I have problems with, is bastion.
I feel like this is some decently made bait but I'm not sure.
>>336996683
>I'd always go over to her and throw a bear trap at her so she'd be stuck as soon as she came out.
>D.Va now has a charge mechanic like Zarya that charges her rate of fire the more damage is blocked with her defence matrix
>it only decays when fired
>max is current fire rate
>base damage increase*2
>spread increased
Would you play?
>>336996525
If you are having a hard time with Mei as McCree than you just suck at the game and just need to git gud. That's like saying you're Mei and you have a hard time dealing with Winston
>>336993902
>Mei is OP
Not with Phara, Soldier 76 and Widowmaker around.
>>336993902
>>336993902
Because she actually has no counters. Soldier 76 and Reaper are probably the closest since 76 can maximize damage potential without being in range of her freezy freeze and Reaper can cleanse the freeze with his ghost.
Her Ice Heal+Ice Wall can stall out a lot of your time and she has a decent healthpool. She's also decent at long ranges and nasty at close
>>336996529
Reinhardt can pin Bastion while he's in turret mode. You can just throw up a barrier, get as close as you can, then charge him.
>implying this fucker isn't op
>reposition faster than tracer
>retardedly accurate weapon that does good dmg, easy sniping widows
>auto lock anyone that tries to get close
>burst dmg with right click
>oh have a heal too so you never need to fall back
>>336995001
Yeah because everyone will always have their movement ability up 100% of the time because they're saving it from Mei, and Mei is also the only opponent, there's no other people on her team.
I'd say Mei is probably the hero who is the easiest to be good with, even more so than Soldier 76.
>>336997053
MccCree, Widowmaker and Pharah are the hardest of hard counters to Mei.
>>336997053
>Because she actually has no counters.
Yes she does, read the thread. Also Soldier 76 and Reaper are horrible suggestions to counter her. No need to spread bullshit
>>336997053
>has no counters
>what is McCree
if she's in range to slow you, you're in range to stun and fan her fat ass.
>>336997130
his downside is that he's super lame :^)
>>336997053
Pharah is a solid counter as you can just go vertical if she starts freezing you, but Mei has a ton of health and that ice-block bullshit. She's weak as fuck at range as long as you're moving.
>>336993902
>Mei
>Op
What the fuck are you talking about? I just got done with a game as Mercy and I pocket healed the Mei on our team and she wasn't able to do shit.
Now that walking tin can? That thing is fucking Op
>hanamura offense
>defense team has two Meis
>foreverially and permanently ice walled gate entrance
What's the counter?
Obviously going through the gaps with a mobile character, but then there are turrets taking pot shots at you and you have no hp.
Just play Zarya 24/7 and shit on everyone if you know how to put up Barriers correctly.
>>336997380
Bastion or any other character with a high damage output can crack through the ice columns very quickly.
Her spray has too much range.
>>336994458
Oh fuck
>>336993902
You're getting it wrong. She's not overpowered she just overweight
>It's a "X is OP" thread
>It's filled with "nah brojoski X is shit because [anecdotal evidence] Y is actually OP because [anecdotal evidence], bahmato"
>It'll continue like this for 500 replies then repeat in another thread
I'm so sick of this board.
>>336996008
>She's strong at close range
No, McCree is strong at close range
>Instant AoE stun
>The ability to murder just about anything with fan shenanigans
But apparently a slower stun and less damage is going too far.
>>336997450
Thanks, bastion does sound like the solution.
>>336997380
Junkrat is the counter to Hanamura A if they're stopping you at the wall. Just spam grenades over the wall around where they'll have to stand to ice wall or where the turrets are.
I ran into a team that did three bastions, a rheinhardt shield, and a mercy on hanamura A, and it only took a single junkrat to kill them all. Team got their teeth kicked in.
>>336996598
Genji can literally deflect anything in the game, even melee attacks. I play a fair amount of Mei and he can definitely deflect the cold beam.
>>336997380
on the far left side of the map a high mobility character can get across the gap,
once you're on the point it should distract them long enough for your team to get in
>>336997525
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/1459146974496.png/
>It's a shitposter being tired of a board that he continually makes worse episode
>>336997572
You are completely, entirely wrong. He can't deflect Symmetra, Mei or Winston Left Clicks
>>336997630
>>336997546
Thanks chaps
>>336997380
Get mobility heroes to go through the hole on the left side or to scale the walls.
Alternatively a Bastion to immediately take down the walls.
>>336997572
Genji cannot deflect Zarya's laser beam.
>>336997532
Its already confirmed McCree is gonna get a nerf, Pharah as well. It just so shocking how different people opinions are on what is OP. People cry about Bastion and Mei, but it's nothing compared to having to face a talented McCree, Widowmaker, or Pharah player. Shit is insane on how they can take over games
>>336997572
He can't deflect anything which is an AoE as far as I know.
He can only deflect Hanzo's ult if he deflects the arrow he shoots at the start.
Guys how do I summon the huge dragon as Genji? All his ult does is pull out a stronger sword but I don't know how to use that dragon move please help
>>336997523
Fucking need more based pewmei art from pew
>>336997645
>A condescending image is used with condescending posts
>"lmao shitposter you're the porlbem."
Yeah bud, you're sure improving this place
>>336997834
is this a copy paste thing? or are you being serious?
>>336997834
you may be thinking of mccree
>>336997834
That's Hanzo, not Genji.
>>336997834
>>336997834
You're playing the wrong character for that ult, it's Lucio that has that ult I believe
>>336997978
>>336997919
>I complain about videogame discussion on a videogame board
Yeah bud, you're sure autistic
>>336997035
More or less an insight on how she can override stuns with Ice Heal. I could always stand there and fan hammer her once she thaws.
>>336998054
>It's just a prank bro!
>>336997130
Imagine loading up Overwash and actually choosing to play as this boring cunt.
Just imagine it.
>>336998101
>threads parroting the same posts every single day
>""""discussion""""
You love the archive so much, you should just look up the other 50 threads today and save yourself some time waiting for those posts in this one.
Nothing more satisfying than killing a reaper player as Genji.
>>336998287
what new and refreshing game topics would you like to discuss today then?
Do you know what I hate? Level 30-40 smarks in quick play pugs that try to boss everyone around when the team starts losing.
>>336998287
don't you have a dark souls thread to complain about?
or better yet just shitpost in the uncharted 4 shill threads that actually deserve it
Mei's hardest counter is Pharae unless the Mei is absolutely incredible with icicles. Go high in the air and shoot rockets, stutter your hover so you fall in bursts so icicle cannot hit you. The next hardest counter by a large margin is Junkrat because good ones can put a trap at the right place at your ice block such that you are always hit with it. Junkrat really fucks you up from afar, but if you get close and can avoid ice blocking while his trap is off cooldown you can usually win.
McCree is a more even matchup than most people think it is. If you manage to ice block his flashbang, you win. If you don't think you can time it well or the McCree has caught on, wall at your feet and fight him from atop the wall; the flashbang is much, much harder to land when you're up there.
>>336998302
Me unloading these shotgun shells into your skull.
>>336998456
reaper main detected
>>336998428
>19 hours
waifufag confirmed
>>336998302
Same for the vice-versa
>fight a genji at close range
>wait 2 seconds when he inevitably presses e
>finish him off
>>336998456
>>336998545
Of course a reaperfag would think he could hit a Genji player, I would have blocked both your shots like the gun pleb you are and slashes you and half. Nothing personal
>>336998515
that's the way it started, but i just kept wanting to find more uses for her wall and for some reason even though i'm bad at aiming the windup time for icicle allows my brain enough wiggle room to line up the shot pretty well. Overall, it's because she's really fun and I like her playstyle a lot, and as long as I keep having fun with her I'll continue to play her.
She's also not really bad in any comp or any game mode.
She's only op in pubs, much like bastion.
McCree is literally a better version of her fyi
t. pro player with an IQ in the 99th percentile
>>336998694
*teleports behind you*
Pshh, tough luck kid
*shoots you in the head*
Heh, pick a better hero next time, kiddo
>>336998992
*Easily blocks shot without even facing you*
Only a savage relies on such primitive tools
"Teleports behind you and a gentle breeze flows through the air*
*your vision starts to split as you slide in half*
uncivilized
>>336998694
>and slashes you and half
Not so fast, *turns into mist*
You are now off balanced from missing your slash, *put gun behind your head*
Heh, see you in the afterlife, kid
*BANG*
>>336997380
You either pick Mei and use a Ice Wall to bring the team to the hole left of the gate (you have to make the wall start from the elevated area next to it, the wall doesn't reach high enough if you're on ground level), or like others said, break the wall with Bastion.
>>336998992
>>336999191
>>336993902
She killed all the dinosaurs.
>>336993902
People are being reactionary. Hell, it's gotten to the point that they were so salty that they legit thought the wall was stopping the cart at one point.
Game's not even out yet, and people are already trying to call shit OP. In a month, they're going to be laughed out of the fucking game. Mei is probably the most balanced character on the whole roster.
>>336997006
That'd be neat but I main dva already. Honesly I dont see how shes underpowered. I get a lot of damage and kill medals with her. My kdr is 16/5 btw
>>336999468
Did she eat them all?
>>336995037
I appreciate this post and all it stands for.
>>336998193
It's like every fucking russian plays Soldier 76. Are they such boring fucks that they need every game to be CoD?
>>336999482
Nah, most balanced hero is easily Pharah.
>tfw you actually get a POTG as Mei
>>336999843
>Pharah
>Blizzard saying her damage is to high.
>>336999482
>Mei is probably the most balanced character on the whole roster.
I don't think she's completely OP but this statement is retarded. She has some genuine issues
>>336999906
Pretty sick to be perfectly honest with you my family
>>336999909
The high damage is good because it takes some skill to hit anything not stationary.
They should look at widowmaker for too much damage.
Blizzard needs to get their shit together on map layouts.
This Equal > Attacker > Defender favoring is fucking retarded and supports cheesing by defending team at the last stretch. Especially fucking Road 66, it's all fine and Dandy until you reach the last stretch and are forced into chokepoints without any way to flank the enemy.
>>337000241
They should get better at map design.
This three chokepoint system in every map is fucking shit.
>>336998428
this except that I don't have problems with Junkrats. Tracers can be a little annoying
>>336993902
>Just play a KoTH map
>Enemy team is COMPLETELY dominating us
>Watch kill cam
>The mei is following something behind a wall a mile away
>I pop the corner and she two shots me with headshots while following me perfectly
>Straight up get headshot as soon as I respawn by a widowmaker, WHILE IN SPAWN
>Check the killcam
>Shes snapping to people faster than any human could dream of reacting
I can't wait for the beta to end so these hacking fucks leave.
>mfw Mcree uses his tire and sends it towards me
>Use ice wall and laugh as he can do anything.
>>336993902
Mei isn't OP, It's obvious though in early deigns her gun was probably a rifle or much larger with a longer range and that was probably OP.
As she stand I think she's fine where she stands, she's got very little health, she's slow and her weapon is short range or her alt-fire has to be aimed carefully.
She is the Pyro of Overwatch in terms of annoyability but thats it.
>>337000457
look at that booty
>>337000674
>I can't wait for the beta to end so these hacking fucks leave.
They are still going to be there.
>>337000562
not him but of course it could be done better, but i do believe simpler maps favor the simple gameplay
>>337000746
>Getting wet over that shitty ass
>>337000457
So much booty at the booty buffet
>>337000616
Here's a tip to deal with tracers. Start freezing them a little bit, then put a wall under yourself. Without fail, tracers will try to blink forward into your wall, and even if they don't they are forced to turn around if they want to blink away. Fight them from atop the wall until they run out of range. Another more aggressive technique is to put a wall in front of where you think they're going to go.
It's hard to pin down and kill a tracer, but it happens. Tracer should never kill you alone provided your stuff is off cooldown. If she's below half health, don't bother trying to freeze her, just icicle her.
If you're incredible at the game, a headshot icicle one shot's a tracer from full, but that's not reliable for me. Sometimes you get them from atop the wall, especially if they blink into you, but eh.
shills going all out pretending people from /v/ are actually playing this piece of shit game
>>337000757
Yea, in tourney play. But when the game stops being a free beta, all the BR's and hackers using throw away accounts will leave because they cannot afford the game.
>>337000848
I'm playing it but I sure as hell am not going to buy it when I can just play Dirty Bomb.
>>337000812
Mei > all
>>337000826
I honestly was gonna add what you said but I just got done playing and i'm tired as fuck
>>337000914
>All that fat
>No firm tight ass
gross
Is this where I go to get the pornography?
>>337000914
Holy FUCK Mercy.
>>337000674
>King's Row attack as Mei
>Ice Wall up to the top exit during the fucking whole minute you have to wait in every game
>Snipe two Hanzo before jumping down
I'm sure they were thinking like you when they saw the killcam, no one ever expects the sniping fat chink.
>>336997834
That's zenyatta's ult
>>337000994
I feel sorry for people like you who'll never know the feeling of having a chubby girl sit on your dick.
>>337000914
well if we're being completely honest
Mercy's fat plump ass>everyone else
>>337000914
>Mercy's child bearing hips
>>337001116
Man you chubby chasers are pathetic, futafags are even above you.
>play Mei
>keep the payload as still as a fucking rock when defending by constantly contesting it and keeping as much of the attacking team away as possible
>eventually die
>when i finally get back to the fight the payload has moved half way across the entire map because literally no one else is contesting
I realise not everyone can contest the payload like Mei can but jesus fucking christ
She's best girl because SHE JUST GOT A GET
>>337000000
Tried playing as Mei, she played like a shittier Pyro. Tried playing as Zarya, she also played like a shittier Pyro. Eh, I'm not buying this thing anyway. Mei still a cute, though
>>337001116
>fat fetishist
disgusting
>>337000914
Sure mei is thick, but Mercy wins because of them hips
>>337001093
>>336998053
>>336997978
>>336997973
>>336997834
You're all fucking retarded. That's Roadhog's ult, his name is even an anagram for dragon.
Quick question, When Zenyatta uses his debuff on the enemy that is suppose to make them take double damage, does it only apply for health only or barriers as well?
>>336994458
JESUS
FUCKING
CHRIST
>>337001331
>tank character with shields and beam + grenade launcher
>shittier pyro
nigga what
>>337001331
apart from fact mei L-mb does shitall damage. Anyone over 200hp can easily fuck her up if they notice quick enough.
>>336993902
Why is one of her win pose the Strike Gundam pose?
>>337001591
it does 75 damage, it's pretty good. not a killing machine of any sort, but definitely reliable.
>>336999906
>tfw took down the entire enemy team with her
>>336994458
Source? Google has nothing
>>336993902
Bastion is easy as fuck I have never had a problem with him.
He is literally immobile, go a sniper or Pharah/Junkrat, easy dead Bastion.
As for Mei it doesn't fucking matter what I play.
>freeze gun slows on first contact, it is extremely hard to escape if your aren't tracer or genji
>you get completely frozen way too quickly leaving you unable to move or shoot and she just headshots you straight up with an icicle on top of the damage the freeze gun already does
>her ult covers a huge area and even if your in the edge of it the slow is so bad you can feasibly run out of it before your totally immobilized
>the ice walls are fine, good way to break off a pushing team
>but then we have the crown of absolute fucking bullshit this character has
>her fucking left shift
>complete invulnerability for several seconds on a very short cooldown
>not to mention it FUCKING HEALS ALMOST ALL OF HER HP WHILE SHE IS INVINCIBLE
>ON A SHORT COOLDOWN
>get drop on a Mei
>begin blasting her inuit ass
>just before she dies, instantly invincible, reheals all of her hp
>turns around, I am already slowed before I can react
>frozen because I can't run
>headshotted, I am dead
How the fuck do you stop her?
I have not been able to find an actual way to beat her fairly, the only thing you can do is hope you are genji or tracer and run away like a bitch because if you stay you will get fucked in the ass.
>>336999906
Jelly as fuck.
How much damage does the punch do?
>>337002148
All melee attacks do 50 damage, with the exception of things under some sort of buff like Genji's ult.
Why can no-one handle jumping in this game?
>Go Mei
>Get into a close 1v1 with Reaper
>Just jump all over him and freeze him
>ez melee kill
Mobility is god tier in this game
>>337002081
see
>>336998428
pharae is a hard counter, try her out. if you start getting frosty, use your upward boost move.
>>336993902
Good players know that Mei is very strong.
Bad players don't.
If you need it all explained to you when the game is puddle deep then even the explanation would be lost on you. Especially when you think that Bastion is problematic.
Do you need it explained to you why Junkrat is always a good pick too?
>>337002276
>get away from her by boosting
>shoot a couple rockets
>almost kill her
>she goes invincible and reheals everything
>I get sniped because I'm way up in the air
Her left shift move is the worst shit in this game.
>>337002213
>Mobility is god tier in this game
Mobility is good in pretty much every single game. That includes shooters.
>>336999906
>that
>potg worthy
I honestly haven't seen a single potg that was ever worthy of a replay for everyone in the match to see, that includes my own.
The way it "detects" plays is fucking terrible, which is why pretty much every single potg involves ults.
>>337002437
>mfw contesting the payload from like five niggas by just cycling walls and ice heals
>>337002437
your rockets do enough damage to 2-shot her if you hit her directly, or 3 shot if you get even slightly reasonable splash damage. burst damage is the best against her ice block. Having in-transit rockets while she's in ice block also means you pretty much get a guaranteed hit when she comes out.
>>337002618
I saw a Hanzo POTG pop up and just assumed it was his ult killing everyone
>Hanzo POV
>Enemy McRee: Its High Noon
>Hanzo headshots him
>It ends
made me kek
>>337001116
My nigga
>>337002040
Dunno, I saved it in an overwatch thread.
She hard counters close range heroes and all she has to do is hold down m1 it's fucking annoying as shit.
>>337000994
If you call Widow, D.va and Tracer's arses fat then you need to seek help for your necrophilia.
>>337002040
The source is literally a drawthread on /v/.
Posted four days ago.
>>337002829
So what you're saying is you have to have the skill to direct hit with Pharah from up in the air in order to counter even a shitter Mei.
Gotcha, balanced hero confirmed.
>>337003172
Is it in a drawing archive? I only know of the /a/ one
>>337003503
the real reason she's a counter is because mei herself can't do shit to you, even if she takes you by surprise, and your burst damage can finish her off before she ice blocks and is very reliable even if she does ice block for hitting her while she comes out. How about you play the game and try it instead of trying to bullshit theorycraft your way through an argument.
>>337003543
I don't know what you mean by "drawing archive" but here's the post in the thread in an archive.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/336598623/#336613904
Once I found out her hibernation thing actually heals her (and very well too), that's when I started fucking shit up. Wall is so goddamn usefull everywhere, can't count how many time's I've blocked spawns just as we do the last push.
>>337001293
>>336996080
She can't kill the heavy guys at full health with a freeze+m2 combo. Roadhog one shots her if he lands a hook and can get all his health back against her. Zaria can just shield all the damage off and resist the freeze for free.
>>337004178
nah you can just ice block against roadhog if he chains you unless you're at really low health already. A lot of roadhogs shoot asap, and your chained target is actually still moving towards you (and thus not taking as much damage as they could from your shotgun) if you fire asap. It's the best course of action against mei, though, because if you wait to get a full shot she has time to iceblock. he's kind of a pushover, it just takes like six years to kill him.
>>337002618
>Pre-headshot a Tracer using her recall right where she's about to re-appear, it killing her and then put an Ice Wall on the ledge of Hanamura B's right side, making a D.va fall to her death
>Play of the game is Bastion sitting in a corner
They really need to lower the score of killing an enemy in their Play of the Game calculations. Also, do you get any bonus from the On Fire status?
>>336993902
She's not, but she can be very frustrating. Watching helplessly as she shoots an icicle into your face is a worse experience than just getting gunned down. It's also very annoying when she icecubes herself and heals a huge chunk of hp when almost any other hero would've been dead.
>>337004178
I got into a 1v1 against Mei as Dva and she freezed me solid 4 times before she just walked away when I was frozen. She has a ton of health and her heal takes no time at all. It was impossible for either of us to kill the other.
>>337000241
>OVERTIME
>OVERTIME
>OVERTIME
yeah, defense sure is easy.
>>336996498
> Competitive Overwatch
> Overwatch
> Competitive
>>336998428
This. Pharah isn't held back by ice walls, she shouldn't be close enough to get frozen or picked off by icicles, and best of all, both of her skills can get her out of Mei's blizzard. The rocket jump is obvious, but her other skill can be used against herself if that's not available to push herself out.
A lot of this game's problem is the rate of Ults charging, map design of bottlenecks and choke points, sub routes being too labyrinthine (meaning you take 30 seconds just to double back on yourself but above), and cooldown times etc.
Bastion should only have 100 ammo in turret mode, but retain everything. He can literally shred any character he sees in one clip. Take a full Reinhardt shield with no effort.
Tracer's blink should have an extra second recharge.
Widowmaker's machine gun mode is a bit too powerful for a long range class.
Hanzo builds Ult far too quickly. I literally got it popped by the same guy 5 times within 5 minute thanks to him just shooting my sentry as I was repairing it. If people don't think there's a problem there that's an issue. I know classes are designed to counter but not fucking Hanzo to a Torbjorn. Plus, not reflect-able unless you pre-empt it, goes through walls, across the map and too strong.It's probably the most over powered Ult in the game.
Zenyatta needs a bit of extra shield or health. I know supports are deliberately squishy but he has zero movement options past walking.
Either a bit of faster speed or extra health would help him.
Mei, well. Reduce range on freeze a tiny bit. make icicles shoot quicker but deal a little less.
Maybe 150 health and 50 armor instead of straight up 200 health.
>>337004693
tl;dr
>>337004806
Fuck off
>>337004693
It used to be worse with the ults. It used to charge not on a timer but based on the damage you received. This meant that Mercys could heal tanks while they soaked up damage and just constantly have their ults all the time.
Or Mei for that matter.
>>337004335
>do you get any bonus from the On Fire status?
No, it's just to let the other team know you're not as retarded as the rest of your team.
>tfw didn't know much about the game, but regularly see all the porn of it
>Fap a couple of times to it, but still not interested in buying it
>See a few lewd webms of Pharah
>Want the game now
>Broke
;_;
>>337002430
My problem with Mei is that she's basically Pyro with Anivia's kit.
She's an ambush character with a shitton of cc and area control and also Anivia's ult, but instead of just slowing and damaging, it stuns too. Plus, her particle effects are completely dogshit and, by the time you realize that you're being targeted by one, it's too late to stop her.
>>337004490
Mei vs D.va or Mei vs Roadhog is usually an eternal standstill, especially the latter one, if they both know how to play. To give you an idea, it takes Mei 5 headshot to kill Roadhog because of his passive regen and Mei can survive the Road's shotgun up to the next self heal if she stays at her freeze gun maximum range.
So what all has blizzard said they're changing in the balance after this beta? I saw a few posts about phara getting a damage nerf and mccree becoming less effective at long range, is there anything else?
>>337004872
>It used to charge not on a timer but based on the damage you received.
I'm pretty sure that right now it's based on timer + damage done.
>>337005231
>Mei vs Roadhog
This shit sucks hard and I almost always lose in the end, which makes it even worse.
t.probablybad Roadhog
>>337005414
No. Damage received, not damage done.
>>336999829
Im a russian and I feel offended by this because I've been maining 76 and getting all gold medals in almost every match
>>337005439
Just use your self heal in front of her, don't try to run to use it since you outheal her even if she headshots and running away will just get you freeze to death, also when you're about to be frozen, turn to your left side, your shoulder pad almost completely covers your head which makes it almost impossible to headshot you without repositioning.
The only way to end the fight is to hook her right when you get out of her stun and headshot her immediately.
>>337005760
>Just use your self heal in front of her
Great idea! You totally won't set yourself up to be frozen like that!
>>337006086
You should have kept reading the post after that, you know the part that explains why.
>>337002618
>It's a "Bastion holds down LMB" POTG
>It's a "Mercy resurrects 3 people, most of which are killed immediately" POTG
>It's a "Torbjorn looks at his feet while the turret scores a double kill" POTG
>It's a "76 activates the auto-aim inside a corridor" POTG
>>337006553
>get potg as torb
>exciting footage of me running from base after a death
Why don't they just show the turrets PoV since that's what's racking up kills?
>>337006553
>it's a Dva suicide bombs the enemy team episode
Love those
>>337006406
I don't have to fucking continue reading why. If Roadhog gets frozen, his healing stops, leaving him open to Mei and everyone else, while also losing his healing for 8 seconds.
D.va needs a buff to her ult.
>>337006904
Her ult is perfect. It clears objectives and scatters the enemy team, and kills anyone dumb enough to get hit by it.
nobody is OP in overwatch
just some small balance issues
>>336993902
>People bitching non-stop about Bastion and Mei
>Play enough games to counter them both and it starts matching me against Widows who can wipe entire teams
Widow is the only busted character in the game, her counter is another Widow or Winston, and 90% of the time if the Widow is good Winston is half-shot before he hits the ground.
Because chokepoints and wallhacks she is safter than any sniper in an FPS should ever be.
>>337006553
>its a roadhog potg
>everyone he kills gets ressed a second later
>>337006990
It's also a good counter to Symetra's turrets, as I find out the hard way. I guess turrets in general.
>>337007036
Mei's icewall is a fairly good counter against her sniping, and icicle shot makes quick work of her. Usually by time widow player has been shot by the first, exited scope and started to run away, the second required icicle shot is about to hit.
>>337007090
>play roadhog
>4 gold medals, one silver
>92% match under fire
>carried whole game, never giving the opponents a chance to stop the payload
>potg goes to bastion who kills 3 players who just runs towards him
Not even mad
>>337006736
That actually takes some skills, unless you're playing against easy IA.
>>337007090
Don't think I've ever seen that, why Roadhog specifically though?
>>337007351
Brother a good widow isn't going to let you get two shots. I'm talking autists who have played CS:GO for 10 years straight who can twich shot anything and with Overwatches hitboxes sniping is childs play.
>>337007453
yeah headshots feel way too easy to get for how powerful they are
>>337007358
>Playing Mercy
>Really fucking tough game, flying left and right to keep people alive and pushing
>We eventually win
>POTG is Hanzo double killing with his ult
>Get 11k healing, 40% of support kills
>Not ONE (1) fucking commendation
>It all goes to Hanzo for his sick dragon
I don't play support to get thanked, but Jesus fucking Christ.
>>336993902
what im surprised about is how no one talks about how many loads they take from bastion
http://youtu.be/HkUjTx3mWGg
>>337007453
what good is a twitchshot at only 20% damage output?
>>337007796
You really like shilling this video
>>337007840
Its 50 damage, which is enough to follow up a charge shot and 2/3rds of the heroes. Her charge time is short son, you really don't need to be scoped for longer than a second to score 300 damage headshots.
>>337006904
The ult itself is fine, but I'd really just like to be able to use her pistol while in her mech.
Or a slight boost to mobility when out of her mech, like a really basic wall jump or something.
>>337006890
You fucking out heal her damage dumb shit, how about you actually try it before you start shitting your pants in front of everyone about how it apparently doesn't work when they've all fucking done it.
>>337008558
And? You lose your healing when you get frozen. You leave yourself open to attack, not just from Mei, but from everyone else, and with no way to heal for 8 seconds, you're gonna be finished real quick, even moreso if Mei uses Blizzard while you heal. Healing in front of a Mei is asking to die.
>>337008802
Healing in front of anyone means you will most likely die
>>337009342
Not with characters like Zenyatta or Mei.
>>337009342
>heal in front of D.Va
>don't give a fuck
Worst champ
>>337008802
Oh so Mei has her team there but you don't? Why are you getting caught out like a retard or running at Mei when your team is dead? And you heal because with your health pool plus the heal it takes her fucking ages to kill you, and in between being frozen you're going to land hooks and fucking one shot her, or don't and then she has to icecube up to heal.
It's fucking simple.
>Wrecking enemy team in the asshole with D.Va
>Get 4 kills
>Feel this fat bitch freezing me from behind
>Turn around but it's too late
I didn't want to run but I should've
>>337009525
It is pretty simple. As in, Roadhog is simply in a losing fight. Even if it's 1v1, it only spells trouble for Roadhog. He heals, she freezes. She gets a free headshot, Roadhog lives and tries to counter, she ice walls herself up, she starts freezing again, she head shots, you lose. Mei is a hard counter to Roadhog. Even a Roadhog that hooks her won't kill her because she can just heal and ice wall her way out of there. Not to mention, Mei's ult can stop Roadhog's in its track. He stands no chance no matter what.
>>337006086
I play Mei, I know what completely fucks me up when I'm against a Roadhog, he has more than enough time to completely use his heal before being stunned and I'm sure as hell ain't gonna waste an ult on a pig.
>>337008802
>You leave yourself open to attack, not just from Mei, but from everyone else
We're talking about 1 on 1, which often happen on non-payload objectives with an aggressive Mei since she's a deceptively good flanker, you can say the exact same by saying that damaging Mei enough to make her use her ice block will give your team enough time to come and gang bang her.
>>337009773
If she ice cubes directly after being damaged then she just sets herself up for the free-est headshot+melee in the game, which can kill her instantly.
You're the one here who hasn't done it apparently, or you wouldn't be making yourself look like such a retard on an anonymous chinese cartoon imageboard.
>>337010279
I've done plenty of ice cubes, and I know to immediately look down and get that ice wall up before anybody can do anything. I've done it all the time, bro.
>>337009934
>We're talking about 1 on 1
>for a character in a team based shooter
Do you judge Mercy's abilities based exclusively on 1v1s as well?
>>337009773
>She gets a free headshot
You need 5 headshot with a weapon that has a rate of fire of 1.8 seconds as Mei to kill a full health pig without even taking his heal into account, that's 9 fucking seconds needed at the very least to kill him as Mei, just turning to the side makes your head extremely hard to shoot because of the pig's tire shoulder pad.
That's enough time to get your heal back and she can only do that by not freezing you during those 9 secs while she's always under the threat of a hook+headshot before she can pull the block.
>>337009773
When I play Mei, I try to stay away from roadhog unless My team is near and will get in an extra hit while he's frozen. I may freeze him just to annoy but I know I wont kill him and his gun is stronger. Her ice shell has a longer CD then freezing him twice
>tfw the moment you get hooked by a Roadhog
STOP
>>337010439
>lone flankers don't exist in a game where at the very least three characters are completely built around that playstyle and are sometimes absolutely needed to take the objective or tear open the asses of the enemy's back line
Well, no wonder a lot of retards complain about Bastion then if only a tight group entering by the front door exists in their eyes.
>Jump on /v/
>See a "Mei is fucked" thread
>200+ replies mostly agreeing
>Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the Frigid Fatty needs a nerf.
>>337011170
I can see Tracer's nipples, bro.
>>337010518
It only takes two, man. And besides, if that's enough time for Roadhog to get his health back, that's enough time for the guy to get bombarded by Mei's teammates. Again, he's a big guy, too slow to run away, and without a good weapon at distances. Hell, Mei could probably use Icicle shot to keep him down from a distance.
And no, Hook is no threat to Mei. She doesn't need to be close to hurt him.
>playing Genji
>see a Bastion sitting around in sentry form
>hit him once with my shuriken to draw his attention
>lunge in
>press E
>he's not a fucking idiot so he doesn't go for it and just sits there waiting for me to put my block down
PANIC
>>337000241
Dude, TF2 has been doing last check point defender favoring since launch.
It should be tough to dick punch through the cervix, it's not like you're only getting 45 seconds of trying.
>>337011502
>Time to hide
Been there
>>337011250
What's the problem?
>>337011327
You seem to love talking about Mei's team fucking up Hog but ignore his team, that's why it's a 1v1 discussion, because it's also a 6v6, we just remove the other's otherwise there's literally no point in talking about it whatsoever because every scenario is too chaotic.
>>337011645
Mei still wins 1v1. Ice walls keep him away, and icicle shots are effective on such a fat target. She'll stay away from his gun and hook, and even if she gets caught, ice cube, ice wall, gone again. That insta kill combo might work on characters with 200 hp, but Mei has 250. Give it up. Roadhog can't win.
Best Mei play for me was throwing my ult down and putting a wall behind them so they couldn't instinctivly backpedal out of it.
The only thing that went through my mine at the time was "You're locked in here with me!"
Hard counters to Mei is anyone with range and mobility. Snipers don't count since they have to stand still and can get icicled.
>>337011327
>75 for an icicle x2 because headshot somehow result in more than 600 damage when you headshot twice with it
You're either trolling or terrible at math probably both give that you just keep on bringing Mei's team in and completely forget that hog should have one too.
>>337011991
Yes, because getting frozen does 0 damage.
>Character with extremely limited effective range is best when fought in that range
>OMG SO OP
>>337011904
You're so strong with bias is fucking ridiculous.
>Mei just Ice walls and Hog hangs around to wait to be frozen again like a shitter
>Mei just snipes him because she's a pro player and the hog is a shitter
>Mei doesn't even have to worry about the hook because this shitter Hog couldn't land a hook if she stood still
>Even if he does he's got crippling arthritis and can't click his M1 when he has an actual fucking window after the hook where whoever he hooked can't fucking do anything and he gets a free shot
I'm actually done """""discussing"""" this with the brick wall that is you, it's like trying to tell an 80 year old that smartphones aren't going to end the world.
>>337000914
>Mercy
I don't understand how she's so forgettable with that ass.
>>337012202
Do YOU have a way to counter it? If Mei puts up an Ice Wall, he's stuck, and she can gain some distance between them, and now Roadhog can do shit against her. If he hooks her, she can still get away and survive. I'm not bias, bro. I'm not gonna suggest that Mei can counter a Pharah by just sniping with her laggy icicle shot. It's just that Roadhog literally stands no chance against her.
A good way to take down and entrenched Bastion is with Dva.
Shields up, charge through and blast him down, occasionally he'll pop the mech but a naked dva can finish him off.
Mei doesn't require any specials or tactics though. Anyone can pop her in the head.
>>336993902
I play Tracer, Mei is a free kill almost all the time
git gud OP
>>337012431
Yeah, it's a neat little secret that no one knows about, but I'll let you in on itYou ready?You really ready?You aim at herYou press shiftThen you press m1
Don't spread it around now, gotta keep this super secret technique hidden.
>>337012431
Roadhog has a higher chance to kill Mei then she does him. She can heal but he can too. It only takes 1 hook then he knows your ice cube is on CD and youre dead
