http://www.strawpoll.me/10166018
DeS and Bloodborne are the only objectively good "souls" games
>>336980129
>all these DS1 votes
When will this meme end
>>336980129
Everything checks out here.
>>336980275
I keep watching yet no tiddies ;_;
>>336981161
right? dude is a fucking asshole
>>336980129
the OFFICIAL order, as agreed upon
BB > DeS > DaS2 > DaS3 > DaS
>>336980129
>nostalgiafags
The first game you've played in the series will always be the best in your opinion
>>336980129
DS1 is the best game because it takes place in one interconnected world. DS1 and DS2 take place in multiple convoluted strangely connected kindoms with no relevance to eachother.
Bloodborne+DLC is objectively the best one imo, but my favorite is Demon's Souls, followed closely by Dark Souls.
>>336981813
in my mind it's the best because of O&S and Darkroot Garden
>>336981597
Oh this meme again. So how come people who started with Dark Souls 2 say DS1 is better after going back to play it? Dark Souls 1 despite its many flaws still comes out above the rest.
>>336980991
>All these DeS and BB votes
Anyone who's played all the games and isn't a platform fanboy knows DeS is the worst, by far for gameplay and BB doesn't belong in the list at all.
That being said, 1 > 2 > 3.
Best in terms of what?
I would say each game does a few things right and also a few things wrong
>>336981597
Sorry friendo, but my favorite is Dark Souls and played Demon's Souls first.
The Demon's Souls bandwagon is a meme.
Dark Souls 2 is an """ironic""" xD meme
Dark Souls 3 is meh
And my BB run is unfinished so I can't comment on it
>>336982153
Because DS2 is shit. DS3 and BB are similar to DS1 but most people have played DS1 before playing the other two
>>336982126
>O&S
NOSTALGIAFAG Detected
That fight is a meme.
>>336980129
DS2 unironically.
>>336982326
Dark souls is indisputably the best.
>Best Original lore and world
>Best level design
Nothing else in any of the other games compare. DS2 is a fun game but none of it makes much sense or has any reason to be happening. FFS, they never even explain the intro scene where we enter Drangleic via the abyss. Lothric in DS3 is similar- some parts of it are connected and make sense but none of it is as good as DS1.
The abysswatchers are a good fight, but they can't compare to seeing Seath or the 4 kings for the first time.
>>336982514
DS3 is shit, not as bad as DS2 but just barely better. We are still in honey moon with the game but the cracks are starting to show. BB is always clumped into this debate and while I understand it BB is in a class of it's own. That being said Bloodborne had the worst multiplayer out of any of them, mediocre replacements for rings and weapon infusion and was painfully short.
DeS is my favorite, but i know it has a lot of flaws, simply because it's the first in the series.
It does have some of the best areas in the souls series though and despite how bad gimmick bosses might be, DeS had the best ones.
Dark Souls started strong, but went downhill a bit in the late game, the DLC was pretty good though and the gameplay improved from DeS.
Dark Souls 2 despite all the hate had some great additions like power stance, bonfire ascetics and NG+ changes, too bad that the only interesting character was added when the game was already dead and the DLCs, even if they were better than the main game, were only mediocre too except for 2 bosses
Dark Souls 3 tries too hard to be DS1 most of the time and doesn't include any of the good things from 2 as if that game was never made. I had fun with it and it had some good bossfights, but overall relies too much on DS1, tries to remake or reskin bossfights and areas from DeS and DS1
Bloodborne except for some performance issues is with the addition of the DLC probably the most polished and just most well realized game of them.
All of the games have really good and really bad parts.
imo
BB+DLC>DeS>BB=DS1>DS3>DS2
>>336982701
Yeah nothing compares to that entire shit fest of a second half. The massive drop in quality was to noticeable for me to forgive. Also, pvp was ass in 1. Still better than 3 though.
>>336982945
Words cannot describe the utter disdain that I hold for Sony and bloodborne. Miyazaki got pulled from DS2 to work on Bloodborne because shoved enough money up From's ass.
DS2 sucked because of this. And then, DS3 was rushed out and couldn't decided whether it was a rehash of DS1, a sequel to DS1 or a sequel to both DS1 and DS2.
In conclusion: Sonyggers took away our chance to have two perfect masterpiece souls games. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>336983213
Also they fucked up DS3's gameplay by trying to make it "fast" like bloodborne becuase a bunch of fucking whiny sonyggers were crying about how slow dark souls was compared to bloodborne. And can you guess who is complaining about SS and estoc spam now?
>>336983213
Shoulda bought a PS4 and funded FROMs shilling even more. Woulda got a better game
In conclusion: poorfag PCucks and their need to be elitests left us with rushed games instead of steller masterpeices
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>336982701
Nothing can compare to my reaction to Storm King, Tower Knight or Astrea.
If you simply compare them DeS is nothing special when it comes to boss fights, but the fact that it started the series and still has the best gimmick bosses and atmosphere is amazing. DS1s interconnected levels are great, but DeS levels tell you so much just by looking around. And just playing it for the first time back when i had to import the expensive ASIA release, seing all these things and finding out all these things because there was no wiki day1 will never be topped for me
I don't think there's an objectively best souls game, they all do things right and wrong
>>336983213
BB was the masterpiece Miyazaki had always wanted to make. Its better than anything that could have been done in the souls series, as seen by the disappointment of Dark Souls 3.
You can clearly tell he has no interest left in the souls series anymore. He put all of his effort into BB, and I'm sure he doesnt regret it, since BB is probably the best game Fromsoft has ever made.
>>336983443
I just want a souls game in a new world. DS1 DS2 and DS3 essentially all had the same thing happening in them.
I want a new crazy cool world to explore for the first time.
>>336983213
> Sony took away our chance to have two perfect souls games.
That's not true. DaS1 and BB.
>>336982178
> BB doesnt belong on the list at all
Denial won't make it any less of a good game, Anon.
>Results perfectly match my rankings for the series
For once I agree with /v/
>>336983213
I think you have that backwards anon but your point remains.
Miyazaki wanted to do Bloodborne after Dark Souls. Bandai wanted him to push out DS2 and would not fund BB. Sony offered them a pretty penny and they accepted.
Bandai pulls *your under contract to do 3 games and we want them now*
Miyazaki pulls together the best B team he can to not effect the production of BB to much.
DS2 is on a time limit and has to switch producers mid dev. Bandai says they are releasing it for Xbox 360 annd PS3 instead of new gen which they planned. They then go back and downgrade it to hell and back.
Miyazaki just wants to be done with Bandai so he puts his team on Overtime and finishes DS3 within a year.
From Software is free to do what they want and take their time.
>>336983012
I dont get the hate on DS2 bosses
People act like DS1 bosses were new, exciting ideas, when a lot of them were reskins of Demons souls bosses, or even reskins of themselves (Asylum, Stray and Firesage)
And it had the gimmickiest boss in the Souls Series in Bed of Chaos.
The DLC helped a bit, Kalameet and Artorias were exciting the first time, but even Manus felt like they just reskinned the flamelurker.
> Single plat BB still winning over 3 multiplats
Justice
And PC mustards will still claim it's shit.
>>336983673
Bloodborne is not a souls game. You're a fucking clown fighting werewolves and aliens with a michael bay transformers weapon and a magic blood parry shotgun.
>>336983625
>BB
>Masterpiece
>sonyngger pls
>>336983440
I have no desire to play bloodborne as it goes against everything I liked about the first dark souls. Instead of forcing you to be smart and wait for openings to attack, you run around like sonic spamming R1. I don't like the beast lore, and they did a hackjob turning lovecraftian gods into muh ayyliens
Fucking trash, I can't watch any BB gameplay without immediately imagining the prancing player as zoboomafoo, the fucking leaping lemur
>>336982701
DS3 as a whole is more about giving a love letter to DS1 fans, I mean they brought back almost everything from it
>>336984090
Salty PCfag detected
>>336983398
>Also they fucked up DS3's gameplay by trying to make it "fast" like bloodborne becuase a bunch of fucking whiny sonyggers were crying about how slow dark souls was compared to bloodborne.
lol you faggot. demon's souls fucking started on ps3. hell king's field fucking started on ps3.
ps3 and 4 have the entire series. you've only got das1-3 and you literally had to beg From with petitions to get them. what the fuck are you even talking about you retarded neo /v/ pcuck?
and let's not forget how pkeks cried about artificial difficulty, basically making it an eternal meme, when they finally managed to get dark souls. how's that trainer working for you faggot?
pcucks: suck at life, suck at games, suck at grills. just kill yourself m8. your mom won't even miss you.
>>336984090
DS combat is not as deep as you want to make it out to be unless you're doing a lvl 1 run everytime
>>336982701
>>Best Original lore and world
I felt that Demon's Souls had a much better and more interesting lore. I also liked the atmosphere of Boletaria more than Lordran.
DS1=BB>DS3>DeS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DSII
>>336984327
DS2 > DS3 > DeS > DS1 > BB
>>336984090
TRUE UNOBJECTIVE FACTUAL POWER RANKINGS
BB+DLC > Dark Souls (close to launch) > BB > DS3 > DeS > Dark Souls (now) > DS2
Im honestly hoping BB gets ported to PC, just so the mustards can finally admit it's the better game.
>>336984557
Nah fuck em, they'll just ruin it like they did DS1 and bitch the whole time and use a trainer.
>>336984397
awww shit havent seen that pic in ages
THE ACTUAL RANKINGS. NO ARGUEMENT OR YOURE WRONG
1. Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin
2. Dark Souls 3
3. Dark Souls 1
4. Bloodborne + Old Hunters
5. Demon's Souls
6. Bloodborne Vanilla
7. Dark Souls 2 Vanilla
>>336984623
man I'll never forget how the souls community fucking IMMEDIATELY nosedived on /v/ the day dark souls pte came out on PC
PCucks are disgusting creatures. I'm not even memeing here.
>>336984663
Whoa lad. I'm sorry but at no point is DaS2 better than DaS1 or BB. Even with DLC.
>>336984663
>pcuck "rankings"
>>336984663
>>336983932
That's a fucking lie, he was already working on DS2 when sony approached From about BB. He said he would have like to work on DS2- but he wasn't given a choice. The rest of your stuff is good though, shows how DS2 became such a clusterfuck.
>>336984150
And yet we never got an artorias/sif tagteam... fucking hacks
>>336984209
>>336984217
I literally don't give a flying shit about your stupid console pride or console wars.
I wanted more dark souls, not fucking ballerinaborne. I wanted more swords, armor, knights, pyromancy, miracles magic. Not fucking cannons and chainguns and beyblades.
>>336984231
It's deeper than most combat, there's a lot of customizability and options. The best part about it is that it isn't super fast paced and frantic like many other games. If you rush into stuff, you will die.
>>336984252
Demon's souls had interesting lore, but it's overall inferior to the dark/light/fire/ash shit. That's honestly such a cool concept I'm sad they never did more with it.
>>336984217
nice chart , shame it's bullshit
https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%22artificial%20difficulty%22
>>336984743
>man I'll never forget how the souls community fucking IMMEDIATELY nosedived on /v/
Yup, it really did. Which is sad cuz we had great threads before them with DeS and DS1. Now it's almost always console wars shitposting or shitposting in some form or git gud maymays. I guess it's the fate of anything that gets super popular but PCfags really did fucking ruin the fandom.
>>336984927
nobody cares what you want though you fucking faggot
please cry more and feed me more tldr :^)
>>336984963
noticeable increase after pte pc release. you can put in those same time parameters in google trends right now and you'll get the same result. nice try though, cucklord.
>>336984809
Explain why without using autistic terms like Music and atmosphere, that is subjective.
>>336984887
Im actually PS4
Not everyone likes "R1Borne"
>>336984663
Just because Aldia is the most interesting Souls character doesn't mean that his game is any good
>>336980275
Bloodborne isn't a souls game and DeS is "objectively" rated by most people as inferior to DaS, you spastic.
>>336985054
>autistic terms like Music
>>336985054
>Im actually PS4
I believe you, kek
>>336984927
>I literally don't give a flying shit about your stupid console pride or console wars.
>I wanted more dark souls, not fucking ballerinaborne. I wanted more swords, armor, knights, pyromancy, miracles magic. Not fucking cannons and chainguns and beyblades.
see >>336984397
I HAVE a gaming PC, a PS4, and a WiiU. You just come off as a whiny bitch who's manufactured reasons to not like the game.
>>336985054
But you like R1Souls3?
>>336985117
>people actually care about which boss music is better than the others
>they think they arent autistic
>>336980129
Critically?
BB and DaS 2
>>336984927
>he was already working on DS2 when sony approached From about BB
source, because from what I've read Sony approached him before he even finished the artorias of the abyss dlc.
DaS 3 getting BTFO
>>336985183
I enjoy the easter eggs. It was a great send off.
>>336985054
>"R1Borne"
I fucking see way more R1 spamming in DS3 than I've ever seen in BB, at least in BB you had a fucking reason to try to R2 and attempt to parry people.
>Anyone ranking DaS2 higher then dogshit.
Did you guys even play the game?
The one with PS1-tier textures and moviemaker-tier animations
>>336985054
Seriously
Bitched about the casualization of pvp and how stupid the matchmaking systems were in BB only to be blown up with never ever shit
Then DaS3 fucks everything up in a similar manner and suddenly it's not okay
>>336985053
> you can put in those same time parameters in google trends right now
Gee maybe that's why I included the link to google trends in the post, but the post wasn't for you it was for the people who might take your shit at face value.
At any rate, here's a chart from July 2011 through September 2012.
>>336984927
I found the demon's souls characters more engaging, and the rivalry between the mages and monks is better than anything in the souls series. The nexus is also the best hub in the series, along with maiden in black being the best maiden.
>>336985382
Huh?
>>336985306
>It was a great send off
no it was insulting, das3 just panders, no new risks, no new concepts.
>>336985369
And despite those, it's still better than DS3 and DS1.
>>336985228
That would make sense given how similar Marvelous Chester is to a Bloodborne character
>>336985484
It really isn't
>>336985397
do sept 2011 - december 2013 like it is there >>336984217 you retarded mouthbreather. it's literally the same thing.
>>336984217
check some archives, artificial difficulty was a meme on /v/ long before the pc release of DaS
>>336985382
>the casualization of pvp
>how stupid the matchmaking systems were
das3 has it worse my friend
>>336985054
>autistic terms like Music and atmosphere
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>336985116
Most people would be wrong then.
DeS>BB>SotFS>DaS>DaSIII
>>336984927
>That's a fucking lie, he was already working on DS2 when sony approached From about BB. He said he would have like to work on DS2- but he wasn't given a choice. The rest of your stuff is good though, shows how DS2 became such a clusterfuck.
Bloodborne began dev in August 2012 which means they prob made the deal earlier that year.
Dark souls 2 began dev in December 2012 and Bandai announced it the same month. Miyazaki acted as a supervisor which is why the early 2013 footage looked so good and the areas were almost entirely different. Once things got busy with BB Yui Tanimura took the reigns and had to downgrade it for last gen.
At the end of the day tomato tamoto Bandai fucked it all up.
>>336985551
blew up after pte. I was there, you neo /v/agina. it was all over the board like a pcuck plague.
>>336985462
UUUU
>>336985668
its true tho, look at the pol, not even honey moon period can save ds3
>>336985584
If you tell someone "oh dark souls has better music or atmosphere"youre completley autistic
That shit is subjective. I felt way more captivated in DS2s land then DS1.
>>336985460
It was impossible to discuss any negatives to bb without being shoved out of the conversation with never ever and pcuck nonsense.
>dark souls 1 is the only one with a connected world
>dark souls 1 is the only one where you can level up wherever you want
>dark souls 1 is the only one where you have to learn the world instead of instantly teleporting anywhere you want
it hurts
>>336985729
>i care about the opinions of the autists of /v/
Wew lad.
>>336985172
No, the game honestly just doesn't appeal to me. Werewolves and van helsing style shit aren't my thing. The only thing that was remotely interesting, the lovecraftian stuff was butchered beyond belief to the point where you literally become an eldritch god in one of the endings.
>>336985228
No, they approached him while his part of the work on AOTA was mainly finished, and he was now beginning work on DS2. There's an interview somewhere with famitsu, I'm too lazy to look it up.
>>336985053
k, enjoy ballerinaborne
>>336985614
Nope, there's an interview with Miyazaki which confirms he was pulled off DS2 to work on BB
>>336985784
feelsbadman. And we'll never ever get another souls game...
Just kill me now
>>336985537
>you retarded mouthbreather. it's literally the same thing.
Yep, exactly the same thing, except that it's not.
Here's a direct link to google trends for the curious and/or skeptical.
>https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%22artificial%20difficulty%22&date=9%2F2011%2028m&cmpt=date&tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B4
>>336985634
I was there too, and like I said the meme was already big before DaS hit PC
>>336985784
>not having a waifu that sits and levels you up in objectively the best hub
>>336985784
I have a tough time deciding with system I like more: Dark Souls with its open world, or the nexus. For some reason I absolutely loved the nexus system in demon's souls. Especially with its inclusion of weight burden, the nexus felt like an actual hub in the game. A hub where you would take respite from a very cruel world. You always had to gear up and prepare yourself to journey out into the world, managing equip burden, item durability, health items, magic, etc.That added so much to the experience, that I think I like it more than the amazing open world of Dark Souls. The nexus is easily one of the comfiest places in video game history.
DaS1 best at first lore experience
DaS3 Overall highest polish
Bloodborne stands on its own due to miraculously being able to merge lovecraft and van helsing
DeS will always be remembered as the pioneer, but its age is showing.
DaS2 is cancer, only autist pvp tryhards love it.
>>336985773
Im PS4 and i could never stay in bloodborne.
I played for a month, then DS2SOTFS came out. I played that instead. I tried going back to BB but kept wanting to play SOTFS.
I hate BB healing mechanics and the constant need for DPS. Coupled with the NPCs were bland, the characterization was next to nothing, the entire story felt mashed together between Ayyliens and an edgar allen poe poem which was not interesting to me.
Yes DS3 suffers the same R1 Spam as Bloodborne but Bloodbornes was mechanics. I imagine (or hope) DS3s reason for it was an overlook on weapon power
>>336985827
hey neckbeard, i'm gonna get laid now, while you shitpost your life away culminating with a fap to distract yourself from your sad abortion of a life lmao
>>336985940
check out that clear rise in july 2012, right when dark souls pc pte came out, and notice the dead trend before it.
thanks for proving my point you retarded chuckle fuck :^)
anyway gotta fuck my beautiful gf now boiz
enjoy dying alone losers :D
>>336986214
c'mon son, if you're going to 'troll' you could at least put some fucking effort into it. This merely pretending bullshit got old half a decade ago.
>>336981597
I played DeS first but I think Dark Souls is the best in the series.
>>336985773
Bloodborne was great purely on the level of its rather unique IP.
Everything else was ok but felt limited.
Combat was way too simplistic regardless of what weapon you used, as it felt samey
Same with environments, while there were many, they all had the same dreary atmosphere and colour.
>>336986124
Also in addition one of the best things about the Nexus was thef act that you always had 4 other options when you don't like one area or get stuck
>>336985940
The point still stands.
>>336985827
>Nope, there's an interview with Miyazaki which confirms he was pulled off DS2 to work on BB
Okay? Like i said he was supervising DS2 while working on BB but since he was still just a director and had not become President of From Software until 2014 they wanted him to focus on BB.
Doesn't change the reason DS2 turned out like it did.
>>336986405
They scaled in difficulty though, if you got stuck in Stonefang, chances are you aren't going to do all that well in 4-1 or VoD.
I loved the Nexus though, the fact that it was completely removed from everything else and had some really relaxing music made so satisfying to revisit and just talk to the NPCs there.
>>336983213
Yet if not for the producer at Sonys Japan Studio Souls wouldn't exist but you don't know that because you're a buttblasted pcuck
>>336986214
Having a gf is not any measure of success. I have a 50k/year job lined up after I graduated Highschool. That's just from my raw talent/hard work.
Women can come later
>>336986630
World tendency was fucking retarded though.
There was zero explanation as to how it worked or what it did and tons of the secret stuff was dependent on whether or not you died a lot in a certain area.
>>336986708
>50k
What are you? A teacher?
You have a heart of gold
>>336980129
There's no right answer faggot, everyone has their own preferences
>>336986645
Literally don't give a flying shit you inbred mongrel. There is no algebraic equation that can properly enumerate how little of a shit I give about how the souls series began.
I just care about how ballerinaborne ruined it.
>>336986708
>he never got laid in high school
>he's still a virgin
>thinks 50k is impressive
>didn't go to uni
yeah you're fucked
>>336980275
Come on, source?
>it's a pc cucks get buttmad that they will never ever get bloodborne episode
feed me your tears
>>336986794
No, that requires university and shit. I do mainly commercial video editing, boss can't give me much to do right now because school is getting in the way, but after I graduate then I work full time.
>>336987043
Why doesn't this rerun ever get old? It's been two years...
>>336986619
B E S T _ H U B S _ R A T E _ N O W
DS2 > Nexus > Firelink Shrine > """Firelink""" Shrine > Hunter's Dream
>>336986764
Agreed, it was handled really poorly since it's never explained and it's harder to manage when playing online.
The only thing you really miss out on is Miralda's armor and some colourless demon souls.
>>336986873
I miss Stockin Tom
When is Demons souls getting a remaster? After BB and souls selling so well, youd think Sony would jump all over that.
>>336986630
Not really, the enemies in 4-1 deal a lot of damage, but 3-1 and 5-1 not any harder than the other archstones.
It definitely was the best hub though and pretty much the only one done right
>>336986764
The idea of world tendency is great and way better than no changes in areas or gameplay at all like the other titles and you can easily control it once you know how to do it and it's not really hard at all. Die in body form, black. Kill boss, invader or help other player, white.
But yes, it doesn't explain it at all, which is a shame especially back then when day1 wikis were not a thing
>>336980129
Bloodborne
>fast combat
>stylish attire
>original cosmic horror story
>by including dlc, it has the best boss lineup by far
>Dark Souls 1 and 3
>more variation in geography
>best NPC's
>good online
>combat rewards you for being a pussy coward
>Demon's Souls
>comfiest hub
>nostalgic
>best music
>Dark Souls 2
>controls like Lego Island
>is shit
BB all the way. If your opinion differs I will assume you don't own a PS4.
BLOODBORNE AND DeS ARE THE REAL SOULS GAMES BECAUSE PKEKS WILL NEVER EVER PLAY THEM
>>336986764
I'm almost 100% sure the hallway in the Nexus explains world and character tendency.
>>336987174
This is unarguably the right anwser.
>>336987043
Most "PC cucks" have a ps4. They are dirt cheap dude they are specifically made so even the lowest tier nigger can get one.
Doesn't change the fact that it would be vastly superior running at 60fps. Give the PC community a few months with it and we will be shittingg on top shelf mods.
>>336987226
Wrong. DeS, DS1 and Bloodborne are the real souls games because they were made by the "A" team.
>>336987189
You also miss out on the dragon bone smasher, faith spear and faith int talisman among others. Personally i was not a fan
>>336987174
Hunter's Dream > Firelink Shrine > Firelink Shrine > Majula > Nexus
>>336985763
Flat environments and shallow boss themes aren't 'subjective'; it's no hidden secret that DS2 is the most rushed of the series.
This isn't to say the game is impossible to enjoy. It also doesn't mean it fucked up the hardest.
The most optimistic thing I can say about DS2 is that I found it the hardest to replay. The Ng+ additions didn't mean much to me when the base game is boring. Straight-forward levels, bland environments, uninspired lore, and the most boring NPCs makes me sick to play it again.
SM absolutely didn't help; I couldn't reliably play with the person I've been playing with since DeS.
>>336987174
Nexus > Hunter's Dream > Majula > Firelink
Never played DaSIII
>>336987201
Bluepoint could probably make one, but i don't know if i even want one, maybe it would destroy one of the few good threads and community out there.
DeS online is still active from time to time, especially at times when some streamer streams it and suddenly there're 50 summon signs everywhere, makes me feel nostalgic.
>>336987162
Dead and dormant. Look at the new heights reached and volatility of the pcuck asshurt as soon as the PC release came out. Don't deny being a shitter senpai.
>>336987174
Firelink>Nexus>"Firelink">Hoonters dream>Majula
>>336987220
>If your opinion differs I will assume you don't own a PS4.
Kill yourself.
>>336986889
No you're just a poor brainwashed buttdevastated pcuck who can't afford a Ps4 and is mad about something Sony has been doing for years before your dumbass started screaming about entitlement.
>>336987386
I wish they would periodically announce they were going to close the servers. Everyone always hopped back on, whenever that happened.
>>336987220
>thinks DLC makes the boss lineup good
>Rehash Cleric beast
>Ludwig and the Slammin sword
>Lady Gwyn of the Easy to Parry
>Literal Retard Ayyylien
>Artifical difficulty because the rest were too easy
Orphan of Kos is the only boss in the DLC that was any good.
SOTFS has the best boss lineup.
Dark Souls
Don't know why, but I can play that game forever. Must be the interconnectivity.
Started with DeS in 2009 btw.
I also don't get the praise BB received. It was just okay for me.
>>336987389
>someone had trouble with Gaping Dragon
This is some major next level shitposting
>>336987189
World Tendancy was something I wanted them to expand upon the most. In theory it was the best answer to all these people wanting varied encounters on NG+, it's just way less artificial.
>>336987220
Demon's Souls also had great gimmick bosses, even if people hate gimmick bosses, Storm King is amazing, Old Hero is great and Dragon King is just a way better Bed of Chaos.
I don't get why the other games didn't have good new ideas or just tried to copy old ones and failed
>>336987493
Oh please, Fume Knight is incredibly overrated and Alonne isn't hard to get past. Additionally you have REHASH Smelter (admittedly worse than Laurence) and those fucking awful cats. The only good bosses were Ivory King and Sinh. Bloodborne bosses EXCELLED DS2 bosses.
Stages on the other hand are debatable.
Bloodborne, deal with it PCucks
>>336987539
Ikr? I beat that fucking faggot on my first try with a Drake Sword. PCucks are unbelievable shitters, christ. Maybe that's why 60fps is so important to them since it casualises the game.
>>336987539
seriously, I beat him at SL1 and I haven't even completed a SL1 run yet.
>>336980129
Dark Souls = Demon's Souls = Bloodborne = Dark Souls 3 >>>>> POWER GAP >>>>> Dark Souls 2
Most of the games in the series are all so close together in terms of quality that they're practically interchangeable, at least for me.
Dark Souls
Bloodborne
Dark Souls III
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls II
Poll is accurate.
>>336987174
The only one worth mentioning is the Nexus.
Firelink isn't a hub or interesting.
Majula is ugly and has awful music.
DS3 Firelink is a shitty imposter, just like virtually everything else in the game.
Hunter's Dream has a nice aesthetic but that's where it ends.
>>336987493
>Ludwig
>bad
You want to know how I can tell your opinion is invalid?
>>336984252I prefer Bloodbornes story and lore to both of them....
Question. Does anyone here who played Demon's Souls first prefer Dark Souls?
DaS>Das3>DeS>BB>DaS2 by the way.
>>336987738
>posts a Jim meme
Want to know why I dont care what you think?
>>336987805
I played DeS at release and DaS is my favorite of the entire series.
>>336980991
babbies first souls game
only reason I can think of why it's getting votes
>>336987383
this
>>336987493
>SOTFS has the best boss lineup
Most of the bosses in SOTFS are just giant humanoids that you can circle strafe and require a minimal amount of effort on the players part assuming he's using a shield. The rest just try to overwhelm you by throwing dozens of enemies at you, something the game clearly wasn't designed around.
DLC bosses were nice, but nothing really special.
>>336987875
>babbies first souls game
>It's the second one
>>336987220
I bought a ps4 last month solely for bloodborne and I still believe, as I always have, that Dark Souls is the best in the "series". Bloodborne is second best, and both are really wonderful.
>>336986619
what happened in january 2013?
>>336987174
DaS Firelink>Hunter's Dream>DaS 3 Firelink>Nexus>Majula
>>336987938
That's not what he meant, it's the same FF7 being babbies first FF game
>>336987938
not to all the bandwagoners and redditors on /v/ as evidenced by the survey
>>336987662
>Fume knight overrated
>Maria isnt Overrated
>Ludwig isnt overrated
>Alonne easy to get past
>Laurence isnt easy to get past
>Living Failures arent easy to get past
Jesus christ. Stop killing your own arguement.
Cleric Beast was HARDER than Laurence, atleast they made Blue Smelter harder than Red.
Like I already sad, Orphan was the only good boss, but still nowhere held a candle to ivory king.
>>336981597
Nope, DeS was my first but I like DaS and BB the most.
>this many literal retards voting for BB
Now I understand why /v/ is cancer. I thought everyone knew that BB was a meme, but there are almost as many people that prefer it as DaS and more people prefer it than DeS. Truly fucking despicable. Fuck this place.
>>336988029
>>Laurence isnt easy to get past
>to get past
He's an optional boss
>>336987923
Bloodborne bosses were just giant abominnations that you just R1 Spam and take periodic breaks.
>>336988109
>you mention the smelter
>LAURENCE IS AN OPTIONAL BOSS
Sorry Ill reword it
>Laurence isnt hard to beat
>>336988008
No, that doesn't make sense. It's the second fucking game in the series, it's not like there were several decades of games before it. It's perfectly acceptable for Dark Souls 1 to have been your first souls game at this point.
>>336988092
Always unique, totally interesting, sometimes mysterious.
>>336988092
BB is my favorite and there's nothing you can do to stop me
Demon's Souls is great because it was taking a chance. The whole "Prepare to Die" shit didn't exist at the time, and the difficulty was just a product of the obtuse game design. You had to figure everything out on your own, and the enemies and environment were unforgiving. You needed to have your whits about you, and word of mouth traveled that hardcore gaming was back on the consoles.
It all pales in comparison to Bloodborne however, which is one of the best video games in the last 10 years. The effort put into the atmosphere, gameplay, armor design, music, and narrative was immense.
>>336987805
Not really, i played them all when they came out and even imported DeS. It will probably be forever my favorite, but i have to admit it has flaws, but so does every souls game. The souls games mostly improve in terms of gameplay from title to title, which isn't a surprise, the OST is about on par with DS1, both had good and bad ones tracks, but DeS definitely had the better ones except for Gwnys theme. DeS lacks a bit in terms of level design, since there're no many shortcuts or anything because oyu mainly go from archstone to archstone, but it makes up for it with the best atmosphere and just the way the levels are designed, not in terms of gameplay, but visuals. And the nexus is just simply the best hub.
>>336980129
people who vote for dark souls 2 should be killed on spot
>>336988134
I can't even see what the fuck is going on half the time because the boss is in the way of my camera or too far out of frame when I'm close. Darkbeast Pearl is a fucking nightmare for me at the moment, not locking on somehow makes it even worse.
>>336988248
>implying I would do anything with you without a gun to my head
You have no taste. I wouldn't sully my good name with your acquaintance.
>>336981597
Crash Bandicoot 1 was the first Crash I played and it's my least favorite. Then 3, then Bash, then CTR, then Crash 2 is at the top. Crash 2 was the last Crash I played out of all of them.........
DS1 slightly (I mean slightly) outshines Bloodborne in my eyes, and Bloodborne was my first proper intro to Souls
So fuck off with your nostalgiafag shit
>>336988318
They're just memeing I hope.
>>336988345
Here's how you fuck Paarl in the ass
>don't lock on
>go toward him
>when he goes to swipe at you roll through his attacks and get under him
>attack his stupid legs
>if he starts charging his lightning blast get the fuck out of there
>eventually he'll stagger and you can wail on him some more
>>336987805
Yep, while I love DeS, you can't deny the fact that there's a serious lack of armour / weapon variety, what little there is is also split into male / female sets and that just kills any sort of replayability.
>>336987174
I agree
>>336987923
>something the game clearly wasn't designed around
None of the games are "designed around" multiple enemy encounters, but they're still used in every game because you're supposed to play through it in a smart manner by using the environment and being patient. It's arguably the easiest to do this in DS2 since
-most enemies are slow enough to punish or don't act particularly aggressive in the first place
-ranged options are better than ever
-you can run while still locked on, among other QoL improvements like omni directional rolling
>>336988109
Not that anon
But youre retarded.
You made a point of Alonne being easy to get past. Then get mad when he says Laurence is easy to get past, saying hes optional
Alonne is optional you mong.
Fume knight has the crown.
>>336988416
>I wouldn't sully my good name with your acquaintance.
What are you a 15th century duke?
>>336988589
Maybe.
>>336988519
That Dragon Bone Smasher though.
Why haven't we ever had another weapon that can knock your opponent on his ass and skid him across the ground?
>>336988298
I know that everybody's favorite is the first one they played. I'm trying so hard to like Demon's Souls since so many people are rabid for it, but I just can't convince myself to like it as much as Dark on any level.
havent played DaS3 yet...
gonna play it in june
Is it really that bad? :/
whats wrong with it?
>its current year
>bloodborne continous to anally devestate pcucks
>no port in sight
Who idort masterrace?
>>336988589
My good sir, that retort was of the highest order of comedae. Doth thou writeth for William Shakethbeare
BB is the best currently but the DLCs for 3 will more than likely change that.
>>336988298
Virtually every level has a shortcut or quick alternative path in one way or another. The only ones that don't are 4-1(kinda) and 4-2.
If you dont think Scholar is still the best you dont know SHIT about videogames
>>336988480
It depends on the weapon. I was going though the game with the BoM and the short range made it near impossible to reliably hit the legs. I went back to the Threaded Cane whip mode and locked on the body when near/under to hit it.
>>336988547
>Man Eaters
>Gargoyles, O&S and Nito
Those are the only fights where you're directly confronted by multiple enemies, meanwhile DaS2 has a ton of fights with multiple enemies on screen. The fights themselves aren't even hard, it's just that they drag out because you're waiting for an opening to attack.
The Skeletal Lords are probably the best example as to how not to design a boss fight in a souls game.
>>336988737
Nothing, but it's not particularly memorable and reuses alot of older ideas without doing much new with them.
If you really wanted to find a flaw I'd say that it's the most linear of all the games and the pvp covenants are fucked
>>336988724
If i had played DS1 first i'd probably like that one more. It objectively does things better, but also worse, same with DeS.
I mean it is nostalgia, but that's just how it is, DeS introduced the best gimmick bosses and despite the fact that later entires had way better "dude with sword" boss fights, they're not really any better when you fought multiple bosses like that before. Just experiencing all of the shit for the first time espeically without a wiki was great and helping people in coop was the best thing ever, like you actually discover more of the game with that person together.
>>336988737
It's good.
Big fuck you weapons are less viable sadly, spamming straight swords with a quality build is far too easy.
If you want to block later in the game you need a greatshield, regular shields have shit stability, stam gone in 2-3 hits.
Kinda rehashed, not much cool new stuff at all.
PvP is kinda gay but still very fun.
Enemy placement is barely better than das2.
Trap god is dead.
>>336988758
Ceafe thy infultf you rapfallion.
>>336988904
The only thing wrong with the Skeleton Lords is that they're completely trivial. They'll only be a challenge if you manage to kill all 3 of them before any of the extra skeletons spawn. If you're having trouble finding openings against them then I don't know what to say to you.
That's not to say that all of the bosses are perfect, because the Rat Authority is pure shit and the Throne Duo don't work well together at all. But the idea that you're at an inherent disadvantage just because you're fighting against more than 1 trash mob is silly.
You also forgot Phalanx, Tower Knight, Fool's Idol, and Storm King, among a few other arguable encounters.
I actually had a ton of fun playing dark souls 2, seeing that dark souls 1's world is cyclical and I thought the giant war was interesting. Dark souls 3 however is entirely uninspired in terms of lore which is one of my biggest draws to the series, I prefer 2 over 3, deal with it.
>>336989442
>The only thing wrong with Skeleton Lords is that they suck.
I must say, even though DS2 did a lot of things wrong, i had a lot of fun with the PVP and played for like 400 hours with one character on that fucking bell tower.
The broken early game was amazing, just my dumb character with dual estocs fucking up those havel magic builds
I loved all the souls games except for Dark Souls II, but Bloodborne is special. The gameplay and setting is way more interesting to me.
Dark Souls III felt a bit tame compared to the gothic horror and later eldritch horror themes of Bloodborne.
>>336989194
The thing with big fuck you weapons is you have to get the timing down perfect to use them. I regularly fuck people up with my black knight greatsword.
Nothing is more satisfying than launching some R1 spamming rapier faggot into the air with my charged R2.
>>336986214
>hey neckbeard, i'm gonna get laid now
LMFAO
>>336989710
Why can't you guys ever deal with my dodge rolls? Is it that you just expect us to run and spam attack?
>>336989442
They are trivial, I remember 3-4 shotting the lords on my first playthrough with a standard Uchi, only to almost get killed by the skeletons because having 20 of them on screen isn't enough they had to throw in a couple of bonewheels with almost zero recovery time in there. It wouldn't bother me as much if it wasn't a mandatory fight required to progress the story. It's a horrible fight even when compared to something like the Undead Chariot.
>You also forgot Phalanx, Tower Knight, Fool's Idol, and Storm King, among a few other arguable encounters.
I don't consider those in the same league as fights like the Royal Rat Authority where you're confronted with multiple enemies at the same time that can easily gangbang you and apply a status effect at the same time.
Phalanx for the most part keeps all the little guys on his body and they're all incredibly slow to the point where you can go behind a pillar and fiddle with your inventory. Tower Knight archers can be taken out one by one with almost zero risk. I'll give you Fool's Idol and the Storm King, but I still don't think they're nearly as bad as everything DaS2 throws at you.
>>336989909
I don't know, most people suck I guess.
When someone starts rolling you just have to change your attack pattern to nail them right as they come out of the roll.
Not trying to be a shit-starter here, but
Where do you guys think Nioh will rank among them when it comes out (if we were to allow souls-like games into the ranking)
Based on the alpha, I'm getting Bloodborne vibes from the combat (as well as Ninja Gaiden ofc), but I'm not sure about the setting+lore. Not even sure if they are going to be ambiguous like From Softwares games. Right now I'm just kind of impressed at how solid it felt.
Also fuck it is so goddamn hard.
I don't think one souls game is just objectively better than another one in every category.
Shouldn't it be more like this?
Best Combat:
Best Level Design (gameplay):
Best Level design (visuals):
Best Soundtrack:
Best (not hardest) Boss Fights:
Best NPCs/Questlines:
Best Lore, Story:
Best Hub:
?
>>336988813
Why is this the only post to mention this? Dark Souls 3 is getting judged without any of its DLC.
Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne are both hailed as great standalone products, but that excel with the addition of their respective DLC. Hell, most people consider DaS2 SOTFS better than the vanilla game. If DS3 DLC pulls an Artorias of the Abyss with both of its DLC, it'll be considered the best hands down.
>>336989710
I roll with the dank sword, dragonslayer greataxe, and curse ward greatshield. The sword and shield is for PvE farming so when people invade me thinking I'm an r1 shitter like them I play along until it's clobberin time.
>>336990102
based on the combat, I would put it above at least a couple of the souls games. I don't know about the rest of the game though, so we'll have to seerelease date when
>>336990105
Best Combat: Bloodborne
Best Level Design (gameplay): Dark Souls 1
Best Level design (visuals): Demon's Souls
Best Soundtrack: Demon Souls
Best (not hardest) Boss Fights: Dark Souls (DLC)/Bloodborne (DLC)
Best NPCs/Questlines: Dark Souls
Best Lore, Story: Dark Souls/Bloodborne
Best Hub: Demon Souls
>>336990102
hope the lore is going to be more than "wow it's fucking nothing"
I was dissapointed that items did not have descriptions, but glad that some item pickups and enemy deaths triggered voice lines
BB is best. Best atmousphere, setting and mechanics. Great level design and bossfights. Only problem is how rigid and limited character builds are, but that's kinda justified given how greatly weapon choice changes the gameplay.
DaS2 and 3 are second favourite. Both are enjoyable but flawed in their own ways. DaS2 has crappy, enemy/level design but great variety in character builds. DaS3 is the opposite, great level/enemy design but it's unbalanced and PVE in particular is geared towards faster weapons, magic is underpowered until endgame etc.
DaS1 was great for it's time but feels very simple and vanilla compared to other souls games. Has atmosphere on par with BB and it has some great bossfights, the interconnected world is great aswell. Unfortunately the 2nd half of the game sucks donkey dick and that really sours on the experience. Also I feel that the game relies on gimmicks to be challenging, hardest parts of the game are the areas with environmental hazards.
Alot of people tend to love it because it's their first souls game.
Though I've played it, I've completed Demons, though I really should.
>invade someone
>the host has 3 sun bros with him
JUST
>>336990105
Best Combat: Dark souls 2
Best Level Design (gameplay): Dark souls 2
Best Level design (visuals): Dark Souls 1
Best Soundtrack: Dark douls 1
Best (not hardest) Boss Fights: Dark Souls 2
Best NPCs/Questlines: Dark souls 1
Best Lore, Story: Dark souls 2
Best Hub: Demons souls
>>336990002
But DS2 rarely throws anything at you that's unfair. The bonewheels are a joke, and you get rightfully shit on for trying to rush through a boss that you don't fully know instead of playing cautiously. The rats in the Vanguard fight aren't aggressive at all, and you will always have an escape route if they end up surrounding you due to how they move around the arena and the rat statues. The Mirror Knight actually becomes more passive as he summons red phantoms. One of the Ruin Sentinels can be eliminated easily, and their movesets are slow and predictable enough to easily take on 1v2. Even Lud and Zallen, as lazy as they are, are largely a joke 1v1 since the second tiger comes in when you take off around 90% of Lud's health.
>>336988226
>you
Not even the same person
>>336990578
I hate how the swords are swung around like they have no weight in GoT
>>336990105
the sony one
>>336990562
*never completed
>>336990105
Best Combat: Bloodborne
Best Level Design (gameplay): Dark Souls
Best Level design (visuals): Bloodborne
Best Soundtrack: Bloodborne
Best (not hardest) Boss Fights: Bloodborne
Best NPCs/Questlines: Bloodborne
Best Lore, Story: Bloodborne
Best Hub: Demon's Souls
and you forgot:
Best maiden: Demon's Souls
>>336990578
>invade someone
>another invader joins
>they try to lure me into a room
>Sit outside with redbro
>Have a stare offf for 10 minutes
Why are gankers such pussies? Its 4 on 2. Gang up on 1 Invader and it should be at LEAST 3 on 1 by the time it dies, unless youre all shit.
>>336990102
I loved it. I adored it. I miss it.
Unless they really drop the ball, I think It may end up being the second best game in the series, behind Bloodborne.
DaS>DeS>BB>DS3
>>336990713
The best is when the host sees the tide shifting out of their favor and just completely bails back to the bonfire and leaves his phantoms to get killed.
>>336990621
>>336990696
>makes unnessisary posts claiming to be people on an anonymous japanese image board
>>336990707
I would agree with that, loved the DeS NPCs though, so that might be a tie
>>336990841
I was just correcting my bad grammar.
>>336990793
Most times its either the room you start in on High wall or the bonfire you first meet Anri that I see luring in.
Always right beside bonfires for easy summonings.
>>336990849
you know what, you are right, I'd have to change it to Demon's Souls or let them share it. Bloodborne had cool questlines with the characters, but I prefer the NPC's of DeS>You have a heart of gold, don't let them take it from you
>>336990625
Swords aren't actually all that heavy
>>336990617
Never said it was unfair, just bad design. Most of the bosses that come in pairs have a relatively small health pool, it's just that they aren't fun to fight, they don't have an interesting move set or a gimmick required to take them out, in the case of the Sentinels you're just fighting 3 giant dudes that all have the same exact move set. A single Sentinel about as hard as a blue eyed knight in DeS, but because there's three of them coming at you at the same time you waste time circle strafing and baiting out attacks just so you can get a single hit in before you repeat the process.
The difficult part comes from keeping them all in frame so you don't get combo-ed and that in my opinion is the definition of a bad boss fight.
BB > DS1 > DS2SOTFS > DeS > DS3
I just fucking hate how 3 teleports you straight to the first level, so lazy.
>>336990617
I don't know if I'd call DS2 'unfair', but it is fucking stupid. Half of the game was just big knights with little cunts firing shit at you from half the map away.
>>336991136
I was really disappointed with that. I spent ages looking around Firelink for the path to the rest of the game before I realized that the designers just said "fuck it lmao xD"
>>336990625
>>336990578
Wait, that's Game of Thrones? That's what the thing people won't shut up about looks like?
Huh.
>>336991227
I found out pretty quick, I did spend a while killing that OP katana guy next to firelink shrine thinking he'd drop a key or something.
I think it is neat that we can have a modern game series where every game is really good
DaSII was literally just dissapointing, but on its own it's alright. The rest of the series is straight up amazing.
think about it, how rare is that?
>>336991176
>This is exactly how the first area of DS3 feels
That's why I hate the High Wall... and parts of Lothric Castle in general
So how the fuck do I save Grierat? I saved Siegward from the well, long before I ever stepped foot IIrithyll and sent Greirat there. Apparently Patches is supposed to ask where Greirat is, but I never got that dialogue.
Is his sidequest bugged? Not that it matters much since I'm up to Lothric castle, but it's really goddamn annoying how the fucker just dies mysteriously dies.
>>336990625
Swords aren't heavy you fucking cock munching fag. Why are there so many medieval autistic fags in DS threads these days
I hope the DS3 DLC is good and that the way to find/enter it is good.
I don't want another door that shows up out of nowhere and wasn't there before, but it will probably be just another portal to anohter time
>>336990617
I remember that one shitty part where sorcerers shoot fucking shit at you from miles away. It's one of the most frustrating levels in any videogame imo. Unless you are prepared for the area it's gonna fuck you over big time.
>>336991073
Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad design. Many of the bosses are designed around being in small groups, and unlike O & S they're not glitchy as shit and can't be as easily exploited. The only bosses that require a significant amount of downtime between hits are the Throne Duo, Bell Gargoyles, and Gank Squad.
>>336980275
>>336991295
They're really jumping the shark with this season. But yeah, fight scenes in GoT have always been shit.
>>336991470
If you saved Siegward, Siegward will save him as long as you havent beat Pontiff.
If you dodnt save Siegward, Patches saves him.if you tell Patches where he went.
