>strength build
>dex build
>luck build
>all done already
>sorcery, miracle and pyromancy all suck until the very late game so there's no point
>start one anyway
>have to use melee weapons to carry myself to endgame so what's the point?
>only 3 viable ways to play the game
>poise is also nonexistent
What went wrong? Even bloodborne had more viable build variety.
>>336977953
They dumbed down the game to make it more accessible for normies.
>magic is bad early game
nice meme
>invade some guy
>he has two phantoms
>they all start spamming soul arrow at me
>for the next 10 minutes run around dodging their stupid arrows
>they finally run out of magic
>sprint up to finally kill them
>host disconnects
>>336978470
>don't get the first offensive miracle until farron woods
>its in a secret area so many players will miss it
>all sorcereies early suck ass; great sword, flash sword, darts
>only good ones are the usual arrows
>pyromancers need to level 5 stats to even be decent
>sacrificing precious Estus for ashen just to fight
>>336977953
>Poise non existent
I don't give a fuck what the try hards say, From needs to fucking turn Poise back on, Jesus Christ literally half of the armor in the game is unusable because of that bullshit
they need to buff miracles and lightning/blessed infusion
>>336978628
I had a similar thing happen to me
>host and phantom
>I murder phantom but host runs to summon more buddies to gank me
>he summons a fucking mound maker
>mound maker and I proceed to fuck all of his phantoms
>darkmoon invades to help out the host
>mound maker friend is killed
>I avenge him and kill the darkmoon along with another phantom the host summoned
>I approach the host after his army has fallen
>disconnects
>>336979369
Iron flesh is the closest thing to actual poise in ds3 and it works fine. ds2 got some pretty major game changing patches after release so maybe we can hope for the same
>>336978628
>>336980664
I do this all the time on ps4
I love fucking around with invaders. Just when they think they'll get that sweet juicy reward for killing me I dc and there's nothing they can do about it.
I haven't tried Faith, but Pyromancy and INT pure builds were the easiest time I had in the game. It's insane, you can get two of the best pyromancies before getting to Boreal Valley.
>>336981003
I get more satisfied when they pussy out. Tongues are a dime a dozen, but the feeling you get when this happens is not found anywhere in the game. So thank you.
I now invade purely to piss people off, I already got enough for Rank 3.
>>336977953
I don't care about magic but yeah, they must fix poise immediately
>>336981003
For me, if you disconnect it's way better than winning. It inconveniences you way more than myself and I just end up chuckling at the effort people go through to avoid pvp when they play ONLINE.
>>336981276
>if you disconnect it's way better than winning
No it's not, you won't get your pale tongues and the host won't lose anything
>>336978079
>>336977953
Spellcasting was broken in DkS1. It's nothing new, if anything it's better.
DkS is general was a very broken game.
>>336981440
Disconnects eventually ends in a softban.
>>336981614
>eventually
that's enough for a single character since you need to be embered for invasions and you won't get invaded THAT much
>>336977953
I felt like Bloodborne had the same fucking problem: arcane and bloodtinge builds didn't get any of their stuff until way too late in the game, either the end of the DLC or the end of Cainhurst, which was like 2/3rds of the way through.
In general DaS3 feels like it inherited everything wrong with Bloodborne.
>>336981594
A lot of people underestimate Faith greatly, Lightning Stake and WoG and Sunlight Spear seem like powerful spells when mixed with melee. All the Dragonslayer weapons rock, so that's an added bonus.
>>336981814
You could get to cainhurst really quickly, arcane on the other hand yes, you didn't get shit until the end-game. Until then it was flame-thrower and molotovs. Least you could make an ARC weapon easily in BB.
>>336981440
Pale tongues are worthless. All I care about is having fun and having the host disconnect is hilarious.
>>336981814
>either the end of the DLC
But holy fuck was it worth it
I miss my broccoli head in DaSIII.
>>336982230
>tfw a host disconnects after you kill all his phantoms
I can only imagine the butthurt happening on the other side of that screen.
>>336982117
ARC just needed you to get to Cainhurst and Lecture Hall. Then the fun could begin.
>>336982117
You can get to anywhere quickly, but that's still most of the game you'd have gone through. You'd need to go through most of the forest to get the summons in Iosefka, so after Cainhurst, it's just the blood moon phase which is two areas and one optional.
>>336978079
WHat?! I haven't played DaS 3 yet, but I don't want a dumbed down experience. Other people, this shit true?
>mfw softban anyone who invaded me by giving them 2billion souls
Get destroyed, faggots.
>>336981208
yeah maybe for you but 9/10 invaders are butt blasted and cry when a host just disconnects on them
>>336982434
You can get there after Amelia which is 3 bosses in bruh if you don't buy the key. That's very early. DLC exists now so its not even a 1/5th of the game at that point.
The point is, in DS3 you have to progress to the end game to become a magic user. In BB if you wanted to go blood you can easily run there grab the weapons and then proceed through the rest of the game proper. You have no option in DS3, its put up with 50 levels of not doing what you want, completing 3/4ths of the game and then you'll start to feel like a wizard.
>>336981003
Seeing pussies dc as I charge Them is almost as satisfying as being indicted.
Any undercover Aldrich Loyals?
Sometimes you must go to despicable lengths to ensure the sanctity of the Cathedral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2l4EE8zouI
>>336982117
bullshit, you only have to kill two bosses to get a dedicated arcane weapon that's one of the best in the game: tonitrus
L-lewd
>>336982736
Sure, I believe you.
>>336981020
I felt like my pyromancer didn't get useful until Smouldering Lake
>>336981956
You can get a lot of that til later on though
>>336981257
Sauce on this? Google reverse image search failed me.
>>336977953
>have to use melee weapons to carry myself
No you don't. Just be smart with your FP. You should be carrying mostly Ashen flasks. This is especially untrue for Pyromancy, which has all of it's three damage-boosting rings available very early on.
>so what's the point
For a set of challenges/obstacles/advantages unique to that build and playstyle, same reason you'd play any build. There's certainly some dumb bullshit with a magic build, like not being able to aim normally, not being able to lock on to enemies playing dead, and certain bosses where the poor lock-on is a huge hurdle, but it's still very doable.
>invade some guy
>it's him a sunbro and a grape
>grape is helping him go through level
>as I approach the grape stabs sunbro in the back
>host runs away
>chase him down and kill him
>grape and I wave to each other as we leave
around grapes never relax
>>336983239
>>336983441
Smoldering Lake is pretty early on.
>>336983072
>dark sword
?
>All auto summon covenants are dead
FUCK
Why did I level up to 105? I just wanted to try out Aldrich's Security Team.
>>336983687
>equip blue sentinels
>nothing for over 15 minutes
>say fuck and invade
>5 seconds after invades a blue sentinel shows up
Is increasing vit for the defense even worth it?
Can't chose between 20 att or 25 vit
>Straight swords do ridiculous damage for their stamina cost
>Rapiers are retarded
>Ultra great swords can two or three-shot people
>Greatswords LOL
>Poise literally just turned off
>Magic useless except for buffs
Other than that, I like this Souls game the most. Would be nice if pyromancies didn't scale though, makes them redundant with dark spells.
>>336984064
27 vit is actually the best investment because the benefits are reduced from then on.
>>336983037
Diabolical. I love it. I would enable voice chat for that just to hear their panic
>>336983447
>>336981257
Seconded, I found a set but I want the video.
>>336984310
Actually 26 is the softcap, but 27 rounds you up to a clean 1000hp
>>336984310
>>336985064
You're thinking of vigor. Vit increases def and load.
>>336984064
Man i really have no standards anymore
Any good weapons early on if I want to do a dex/luck build? Or am I fucked until I can do hollow infusions?
I know about Anri's sword, but I want to keep her alive since I fucked up her quest in the other playthrough.
How do I get these to work decently? I'm making a ranger and thought bow and arrow with dual daggers was the most fitting thing, but this range, speed, and damage are all garbage. The dual wield attacks actually feel both slower and weaker than the regular attacks, and it doesn't even proc bleed like the bandit knife does.
Are great axes/hammers any good? Hear about bkga a lot but not much else
>>336983684
It's a good sword
>stop playing for 3 weeks
>come back
>invaded
>iron flesh and sacred flame
So..this..is..the..new..meta...woooww
>>336985741
I see people use dragonslayer greataxe.
>>336981020
This pic made me realize how stupid Artorias' helmet actually looks. A random metal piece after cloth.
Why?
>>336985741
Both are fucking amazing compared to UGS.
Greataxe
Yhorm's Great Machete
Dragonslayer's Greataxe
BKGA
Large Club
Morne's Big Fucking Ass Pounding HammerPickaxe
Dragontooth
Even Gargoyle Flame Hammer is good for pyro
>>336985741
Yhorm's machete and Dragonslayer's Axe are solid.
Greathammers it's just woghammer and pickaxe + leo ring
>>336977953
Luck build?
>>336986143
Pickaxe is actually good in 3? I recently started getting into PvP via bellfagging and was sad that the pick was shit, damn thing has a good moveset and damage, but no tracking in 2
>>336986473
With Leo Ring it's fucking deadly.
How much luck is ideal for a luck/dex build that uses bleed? I cant seem to find anything that gives a solid answer.
>>336986524
30. Then with two +5 Hollow weapons equipped you have 40 luck
>>336977953
The point of magic not being as viable on its own is because a magic user is inherently a sword-mage.
Magic can never stand on its own in the souls game for balance reasons unless you restrict builds in such a way that you cant use any fucking weapon but a staff if your a sorc.
Stop being retarded.
>>336983049
You get acsess to unlimited Fire Radial Gems at the same point in the game, the only time Arcane is suffering is pre-BSB.
Bloodtinge is a bit more annoying since Chikage and Bloodletter are both locked behind very tough bosses. I wish you could convert physical weapon to Blood damage like you can with Fire/Bolt/Arc, it would make it much easier.
What are the strongest dual blades? Using Warden + Sharp at the moments, it's flashy as fuck.
>>336986791
gothard is broken
warden is good for bleed hollow builds, like really fucking good.
>>336986579
But pure caster builds are totally viable. They're just hard to pull off.
>>336985907
It's because of this video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EvCbKNi7vL8
Hopefully it gets patched soon.
I've pyromanced the whole game. I don't know if it's weaker than melee but my chaos balls hit for like 800 if it gets the extra tick at 30/30 int/fth. Sucks against some bosses that you have to use dark fire ball which only does like 500ish.
>>336985907
this is always the story with dark souls meta
why do people play these games and expect balanced or interesting meta
it goes against the spirit of the games anyway and it just makes pvp worse for everyone
redpill me on luck builds
>>336985907
Can't you just punish this every time now that you know the trick?
>>336977953
>summon a sorc build player
>proceeds to fucking 6 shot the boss
>summon another sorc build player
>they also shit on the boss in a handful of shots
people saying that caster builds are shit are the same stupid faggots who don't upgrade their shit and use the basic spells then cry when it does 80 damage to a boss
the boss soul spells are 10/10
>>336987231
They're okay. Mostly for bleed until you can do hollow infusions.
>>336987279
Punish how? Can't get close.
Throw daggers and shoot arrows?
>>336987231
become jerky, infuse weapons with hollow to scale with luck
max reinforced hollow weapons give +5 luck while equipped
if you have two hollow weapons, you can save the 10 points you'd otherwise spend on luck to get to the 40 softcap and pump up HP or stamina
if you're using Anri's straight sword, you'd need 35 luck since it doesn't give luck
higher luck also increases build up on things like bleed
basically it does good damage and you can spend points elsewhere since you could run with just 30 or 35 luck on your build
>>336986843
They should make the Farron Sword spell be free of cost.
>>336987231
Might be a good idea to compliment an sorc or pyro build because lower stat allocation than STR or DEX. Pump it to 30, and make sure you have 2 +10 Hollow items equipped for extra +10 Luck. Also make sure to be Hollow. And use bleed weapons since it increases bleed on enemies. And use Anri's Straight Sword.
>>336977953
Magic builds are underrated as RAW dominates the early game anyways. By the time magic finally picks up RAW is finally no longer the best weapon infusion.
>>336987605
I figure you can wait out the iron flesh and throw dung pies at them to amuse yourself
>>336987646
Also you can buff Hollow weapons which is cool and further compliments a hybrid build with magic.
>>336987605
Zweihander L2>R2 actually staggers iron flesh. I assume fully charged strong attacks do too.
How is the Winged Knight's Halberd?
I got like 7 of them from farming and the weapon art actually seems pretty fucking strong.
Should i reinforce it and give it a WHIRL HAHA?
>>336985907
>Not having any ranged options
Dark Souls 3 has an annoying meta but complaining a strategy that kills mobility just makes you sound like a scrub.
>>336987763
Gundyrs and the BKH are both better and lighter
>>336987816
Beside bombs?
Only gays use magic.
>>336977953
>>sorcery, miracle and pyromancy all suck until the very late game so there's no point
Literally wrong except miracle.
>>336988362
Daggers, urns, bow, x bow, dung, kukris.
>>336988408
Yeah, pyromancy is great from start to finish. Sorcery goes for decent to amazing.
>>336988473
So what I said before.
The true endgame is defending defenseless monsters from vile phantom armies. Not only is this the most challenging thing this games offers but it allows you to be a true hero and defend the weak and powerless from an unending swarm.
Red Phantoms are the true unspoken heroes. True sunbros are red.
>>336988639
>be sunbro
>get summoned
>helping host out killing monsters and shit
>get invaded
>can tell by his color he's also a sunbro
>does praise the sun gesture
>I do it back
>host runs and attacks him while we're praising the sun
>while him and host fight I aggro enemies and lure them to host
>watch as he gets fucked by invader and enemies
>as he dies invader and I both praise the sun
>>336988837
You both are false sunbros. A true sunbro gives his life for the host. When the light of the sun finally shines down upon us, you and your heathen friend will burn.
low level pvp is the tightest shit
SL100 can't compare
Why would any host ever willingly summon a Mound Maker? If Mound Makers could actually pretend to be normal phantoms it may actually give SOME risk to summoning phantom armies.
>>336988837
Disgusting, you sided with a traitor.
>>336989182
Their signs should've been white and when the host enters the boss room they should turn into real allies and get the reward for helping killing the boss.
Anyone know how to make webms? I want to show you goys something but idk how.
>>336988837
A true sunbro has principles. You my friend are a true sunbro.
>>336989081
>>336989208
The only thing you enable is ganking and turning Dark Souls into a baby casual game. The defensless monsters need our protection and Red Phantom friendly fire demands true cooperation to succeed.
>>336989328
Signs should stay purple so summoner knows what he's getting into but the second part is 100% correct. There's no incentive for a host not to treat a mound maker as an enemy. If they could make it to the boss and get a vertebra shackle from that then there'd be some incentive to let them help you.
Why can't boss/special weapons be infused? You can't even use pine resin on them.
>>336986872
>abusing an exploit in PvP
And this is why the PvP community in DaS is complete cancer.
The only respectable way of online interaction is a single person helping someone with a boss.
>>336989462
>Signs should stay purple so summoner knows what he's getting into
Not when summoning phantoms has zero cost and zero risk. Mound makers should be able to truly masquerade as friendly phantoms.
>>336989456
You sound like a whiny cherry fucboi.
>>336989380
I just use active presenter, it's free and it converts to webm no problem
>>336989456
>defensless monsters
Hah.
This is why the first born followers are heretics.
It keeps happening
>>336982360
>red phantom runs out of estus
>uses black crystal
>>336989902
I swear half of my vertebra shackles I've gotten right as my character is spawning.
>>336989776
The fucboi is the host whom has phantoms play the game for them. You sound like one such fucboi.
>>336985665
You don't, they're actually so bad that I feel like they're actually broken. They're the one weapon I can think of that can't combo L1 to L1 against players. It just doesn't do the universal stun that every other weapon does.
Dual wielding them is completely useless. Just use a bandit knife, which at least bleeds.
>>336989883
I take it you haven't seen a 4 player rape squad pillage the stage with absolutely zero opposition? PvE is so badly designed for multiple players that the extent of their strategy is typically just running up and jamming R1.
>>336983687
I actually found that I'm called up more at lvl 108 for Aldrich's faithful. Got my 30 in a day.
>>336985907
>cooping with someone in kiln
>invaded by a fag who tries to do that
>oneshot them
>cooping with someone else
>the same loser invades
>oneshot them again
Can anyone suggest me a great farming place for souls? Better than rapporting the 3 winged angels in Lothric.
>>336982581
Yes, yes it is.
>>336989954
I fucking love this, this guy named Adolf Hitler comes in with a twohanded claymore to fuck me up and I just catch him every time with a battleaxe before he can touch me.
>>336990139
>invade
>it's a 4 player rape squad
>they all charge me knowing they can r1 spam me to death
>run away
>get behind some monsters
>they all lose any courage they had and just stand out of aggro range mocking me with gestures
>another phantom invades behind them
>one idiot backs away into aggro range
>now their 4 man gank squad is surrounded by two invaders and several monsters
>host completely bitches out and runs away leaving his phantoms to die
>kill all the phantoms
>run after host
>find him at bonfire trying to summon more phantoms
>sees us
>disconnects
Guys that need other players to play the game for them are such fucking pussies it's hilarious.
>>336990021
i actually want to do a pope run based on this
> build is pure atunment and faith, with some health for practicallity, all ashen flasks
> i will have 99 embers and dried fingers.
> the game is that i summon people to escort me through a level+boss, and i must always have dried finger activated asap.
i think it would be funny, probably have a shittone of deaths too.
>>336990314
>doing 1000+ damage in one hit
No
>>336990376
I liked helping in the archives. Even if the host dies to the boss the full run is like 100k souls. Takes maybe 10 mins tops.
>>336990515
I'd protect you
>>336988837
>Following a symbol and not a purpose
>>336990437
>they all lose any courage they had and just stand out of aggro range mocking me with gestures
This happens so frequently its pretty pathetic. Stages were designed to be beaten with 1 player. Two phantoms isn't enough to counter act one lone invader? And in this case like I am seriously going to climb up a death trap ladder.
>>336990691
>Not cooperating with the monsters
>Not cooperating with friendly red phantoms
Host phantoms are such poor allies that FROM felt the need to make it impossible to allow them to harm themselves. Kid gloves through and through.
Post ending in 7 names my new female roll.
>>336990524
iron flesh greatly increases vulnerability to lightning
>>336991694
ImAScrub
>>336991694
Man
>>336991694
Margaret Thatcher the Cum Catcher
>>336991694
Executioner Miralda
>>336991917
>>336991917
I can fit Executioner Mira.
I guess that's good enough.
>>336991694
CockSuckerFaggot
The speed of drinking estus is not okay. Its impossible to prevent it if they properly roll. Makes invading nearly impossible.
>>336992796
Which is why you try to burst the host. Find the highest AR weapon you have and just try to burst the host with riposte + hornet ring
>>336992796
Honestly, it wouldn't be a big deal if Lloyd's Talisman wasn't nerfed into the fucking dirt.
>>336991917
Nice!
>>336992796
It's pretty terrible in pvp, but against bosses I always get hit drinking.
>>336992796
More like invading involves one of the following:
1) The host making a mistake
2) The host willingly playing sub-optimally
3) The host being an idiot
There is literally nothing stopping a host from summoning endless Phantoms to clear the stage for them. Inability to efficiently punish estus just makes it that much easier for the host to roll around endlessly summoning more phantoms in the scenario where you do somehow temporarily kill off their phantom army.
FROM really went out of their way to make being an embered host as baby mode as possible. They even made "Dead Again" host and host phantoms only. Just what the fuck.
>>336992896
This is the thing I dislike the most. If you don't have a primary weapon that does good burst damage you will lose against any competent host + phantoms.
Heaven forbid if your weapon ALSO sucks at roll punishing or attacking fleeing players.
I don't mind gankers but I wish giant seed lasted like five minutes, or if they buffed the lloyd's talismans.
>crucifixion woods
>SL35\Weapon +3
>invade as red
>no phantom host who always starts summoning a gank squad
>have a ball killing phantoms and sneaking in pokes on the host when he starts trying to gank
>invade a sunbro
>always host plus two phantoms
>phantoms always kitted out with late game gear
>always no-emote full sprint and start attacking
>always without fail
>invade as a mound-maker
>always host plus several white phantom buddys with voice chat headsets
>kill the phantoms, host just keeps getting them back in
>eventually reds and farrons get in on the party
>turns into one gigantic gank cluster fuck
>even help against reds and farrons
>always a blast
>invade as farron
>actually, just stand around in woods for hours with nothing happening because reasons
Why is Sunbro the worst fucking covenant in the game?
Why is Mound the funnest covenant in the game?
And why does Watchdogs not fuckin' work worth a shit REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Invading gankers is only fun when you have some support dropping in, otherwise it's just too laborious and downright hopeless to fight on.
I'll weep when the online community dies down and you'll be invading the same gank squads while invaders just quit to fight clubs or some shit.
I'm no honorfag who religiously plays 1v1, but 1v3 is some serious shittiness especially when they have full chugs and run back to summon more phantoms with minimal effort.
>>336994045
>And why does Watchdogs not fuckin' work worth a shit REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Doesn't Farron's Covenant only cover the Crystal Sage's starting area? If so it is little wonder the covenant never works. Easy boss and easy as shit to rush through.
If FROM included the fucking swamp area then we might have a legit covenant.
>>336994963
It does cover the swamp. Crucifixion Woods from halfway fortress to the swamp and keep, even the wall above the old wolf.
Once you get to the crystal sage, your out of area.
I seem to get maybe 1 or 2 farron invasions over 6 hours of play time, and always to hosts who decided to use a dried finger (which basically means a full on gank squad looking for blood + seed)
>>336977953
So when vordt's hammer has Frost: 50 in its stats what the he'll does that mean? If it said bleed:50 that would mean that if bleed was proc'd the enemy would lose 50% of their lifebar right? Does that mean frostbite would do 50%? No way right?
>>336996442
I thought the value influenced build up, not damage percentage.
Frost does some shitty effect like 5% of health damage, reduced stamina regen, and less damage absorption.
On paper, it's barely viable against heavily armored players with high absorption, but no one uses heavy armor because they lack poise. Bleed would do the job better anyhow.
Shit's probably worse than even poison.
When I start NG+, will all my shops reset?
Like I'll have to get all the ashes and tomes and boss kills to unlock everything all over again?
Because that sounds like a real bitch
>>336997098
yeah unfortunately that does not carry over : http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/New+Game+Plus
>>336977953
quality?
fucking retard
>>336997172
That's really annoying.
Boss items get reset too? Doesn't say specifically on that page.
>>336996989
In that case then what does the 50 mean? It takes two hits to activate frostbite?
>mfw dragonslayer swordspear with a simple caestus
this weapon art
>>336997583
Nah, the enemy's frost resistance has to be taken into account. But a 50 frost weapon would take less hits to proc than say, 34.
>>336997603
It always catches me off guard. I swear it summons lighting right before you actually point it upward.
>>336982581
No it's not. It's just as frustrating as DaS.
>>336998094
Not with baby mode phantom armies
>>336981257
sauce plox
>>336997552
Sorry what do you mean by boss items? things like the basin and such? or do you mean souls?
>>336979118
>sacrificing estus for ashen
>implying you're not sacrificing ashen for estus
one problem is, almost every weapon in the game is putrid shit, there are like 10 good weapons. stray too far away from those weapons and you'll have like, 250 less attack rating and a clumsy moveset
>>336980960
The caestus buff literally gives you DS1-esque poise for a few seconds.
It's not like they took it out entirely, so why not just give it to armor?
Fuck you Miyazaki
>>336997098
Of course it does. What you have in your inventory is already yours. So stock up before going NG+. Has been the same in any Souls game.
>>336981795
Don't you also have less chance of connecting overall as well?
Hence "restore the link to other worlds"
>>336985907
use a duel charm, that shit disables any buffs on them
>>336977953
>have to use melee weapons to carry myself to endgame so whats the point
Maybe with the other two but pyro stands on its own so easily. I didn't use a single weapon on my pyro run, when I went oom I punched the mobs with the flame and I went oom rarely.
>>336977953
the base damage potential for a lot of the weapons is just really low. like, you think as a sorceror, lets say an int dex build, you could take a weapon with decent dex scaling, slap crystal magic on it and do okay? well, no. and also your spells are mostly worthless. same goes for faith builds
>>336984904
Link the set at least.
>>336982268
I miss a good dragonform.
>>336999397
>same goes for faith builds
I'm SL120 and my Faith build gives me 632 AR on a Twinblade.
Deleting main build after stripping it of gear and items. Been assembling new builds.
I have:
>Dedicated Caster
>Interchangeable Ninja/Samurai with support spells
>Dark Knight (Heavy weapons and dark magic)
What is another fun themed character to play as? I'm thinking more faith-centric but any ideas are recommended.
>>336999467
should have elaborated better. there are good weapons for faith and int builds. but only a few. and its the same goddamn weapons that are good in every build.
gotthard is top tier, and like the dark sword, it scales highly with whatever flavor you want to make it. and its base damage is high already! not to mention l1 l2 r2. this is one of the chosen weapons to be extremely good in the game
>>336999548
My second character was pure faith using the offencive miracles, due to how costly it was it doesn't really pay off till VERY late game but it's fun to RP as zeus, many of the bosses have lightning vulnerability but as I said, costly spells.
>>336999548
dual crossbows
>>336999695
White Mage could be fun.
>>336999875
Can you even fire both at once?
>>336998635
In 1 you could have 2, in 3 you can have 3. What a difference!
>>336999967
No, but you can fire both in rapid succession, faster than firing a bow twice.
>>336998968
this, hammers are meh, greatswords are too costly for too little power or range, sorcery has shit power and is so ridiculously slow you might as well not bother, mericals cost too much for to little, shield stability is crap, even for greatshields , (also using spears from behind shields dosen't even work, you would be better off stabbing normally) rolls are super spammable, armor isnt worth the weight, no poise, scythes have wonky and tiny hitboxes, daggers are worthless, health is honestly WAY to low, stamina recharge is fucked. and i feel like leveling is too slow as well
i mean holy shit, this entire game is screwd up, everything feels polished, yet hopelessly rushed and untested.
>>337000148
True.
>>336985907
Wait for them to use it, have them miss and then step into range to slap them around. If they get you it's not so bad unless they're using the filthy glitch
>>336999409
I found it so you should be able to as well, lazy bastard.
Here's how you fix magic
>Scales better with stats, does more damage
>Casting times are sped up to be in line with melee
>Ashen flasks are a bonus on top of Estus, you don't need to trade off
>FP recovers slowly over time
>>337000165
Due to hyper armor I think straight swords aren't THAT dominant in PvP.
PvE though? Holy shit straight swords and fucking easy mode.
>>336981594
i used to have faith/dex build in das1 and 2 and its a lot lot weaker in 3 probably because it cost FP and stamina and also no hyperarmor
>>337000378
pvp is barely worth mentioning. greatshield + bestoc vs unplug your internet
>>337000380
Due to early game raw weapon dominance you aren't missing out on much early game anyways. In fact I suspect that optimal early game play is always going to be VIG with Raw.
>Split damage infusions are debately weaker than refined
>They also can't be buffed by spells or Resins
Can someone explain this faggotry to me? Maybe if the INT/FAITH scaling infusions didn't suck balls we might have more INT/FAITH builds in the game.
>>336988837
>summoned as absolute madman
>invaded by another
>wave at each other
>bs host as they're fighting
>wave again
>>337000603
Its always been the case that a physical weapon buffed with a spell is better than the elemental infused version.
>>337000682
The problem is that now without spell buffs they do less damage.
>>337000682
yeah, but now an unbuffed weapon is better than a split type one, its crippling
>a souls game is designed poorly
What a shocker that is.
>>337000767
Are you saying on a 60 int character a raw infusion would get better real damage that a crystal infusion?
>>337000756
Typo -- without spell buffs they still do more damage.
>>337000767
Yep. Either make them better than unbuffed refined or allow Sorcerers/Preists/Pyromancers to buff their weapons. With the way enchant scaling is done in this game you need to invest in INT / FAITH before you get better results than resins anyways.
In fact greater magic weapon with base INT == Resin. Thats how bad the magic buff scaling is.
>>337000840
Thats an ambiguous question due to different weapons having different scaling. But in first playthroughs Raw + Buffs is going to be consistently better than Crystal or whatever other elemental infusion you use.
>>336987605
>>336987683
>>336987743
Fucking idiots, hit them with duel charms, you can carry five duel charms.
>Casts iron flesh
Oh no whatever shall I do, hit them with a duel charm and no more buffs.
>>337001061
>But in first playthroughs Raw + Buffs is going to be consistently better than Crystal or whatever other elemental infusion you use.
I really dont see the problem with that, if you are willing to invest FP and cast time to buffing of course it should out do the infused version.
>pyromancies needing int or fth
Can anyone trade their crystal sage dagger weapon with me? I have soul of greatwood and stray demon. SL37
>>337001174
>Enabling twinking
>>337001156
Split damage weapons will do inferior to equal damage for most parts of the game. When they finally do it is by a small margin. Such a small margin it is essentially insignificant compared to the gains you get by buffing a raw.
>>337001428
The "equal" damage is assuming total APR BTW. Defenses applying twice means that equal APR is vastly inferior for a split damage weapon.
>>337001428
I really dont know what stats you are working with in that image, and not all weapons are good for magic infusing.
Sure its a little annoying, but nothing unusual for the series.
>>337001428
you can get good damage with an int or faith build, even with split damage, if you're prepared to use a meme weapon. quality builds can get away without using meme weapons.
trying anything besides meme top tier weapons with split damage is gonna return shit results like 450 attack power with crystal magic weapon activated. just trash. use a meme weapon with the right faith or int build and you can get close to that 600 attack rating mark
>>336981257
>>337000295
I just checked the archive, and every time this gif is posted, there's a bunch of posts about Google returning nothing and the sauce being lost.
Not one of them found the image set.Keep looking buddy, I found it and you can too.
>>336981003
desu senpai I get more satisfaction knowing someone has disconnected, or even turned off their console because of me. Sure I wont get the ember but I have hundreds now. Invasions are done now just to mess with people.
>host & phantom
>phantom gets parried and killed immediately
>host runs off
>eventually cornered him to make him fight
>parry him
>disconnects half way through the riposte animation
Why do people even need to be embered this much?
>>337001174
Thank god they finally balanced that shit out.
>>337001850
Fuck you 'buddy', I'll find it, and I'll have it, and I'll be better than you and I'll beat you and I'll win.
>suck until late game
So get them to late game and then enjoy?
Any recommendations for a good/fun dex weapon? Dual wielding stuff looks intriguing.
Trying a Dex/faith built for my second playthrough.
>>336999548
Bonewheel shield
>Slam a Sorcery invader
>Emote
>Get backstabbed by Farron guy
>does fuckall for damage
>Slam him too
Y'all need to up your game, Watchdogs
Why is magic so fucking boring in these games. I mean its completely breaks the fast combat.
Flashsword and soul greatsword is cool. But the damage is ridiculously awful. Its all mostly slow projectile shooting for all four magic schools
Why cant they make magic fun?
Who hobo knight here?
>>337003352
Mind naming off all your armor?, I see it alot but don't know what it's called
>>337003323
You can get good damage from the spell swords but it is high dedication. All 3 ring slots dedicated to +sorcery damage is pretty much a requirement. The headgear helps as well.
>>337003851
I did. And its still much weaker than poking them with my raw estoc. Plus these spells have very little poise damage and the last thing I want to is to trade with mobs with my 10 vigor. The only way to play sorcerer is to keep cheesing the retarded Ai with soul arrows
>>336995292
that's interesting, not him but I've never been invaded outside of the crystal sage area, while I've been invaded like 4-5 times there
>>337004194
everything except melee in the souls games has always been boring, dont even bother with magic
>>337004268
Soul Stream is pretty much an assured KO if you contact and can be fun while invading. You can aim it using binoculars, bows, or crossbows as well. That said doing this at low-medium levels is very gimicky.
Part of the problem is that FROM is committed to making anything but melee host play rather weak. Cannot even use "Dead Again" as an invader.
>>337004239
With the covenant socketed, it stops flashing when your in crystal sage, because boss area
>>336981594
How was spell casting broken? I did a sorcery run not too long ago and it didn't feel as though it broke the game, if anything I had a much easier time on my generic quality build.
I don't know guys. Sorcery is scary in SL120. Even in SL80 I don't even want to get hit by anything they do.
off topic, but i just invaded a host/sunbro duo under aldrich covenant, and it was clear they had enabled a trainer for infinite health. backstabs and multiple hits did nothing, and it wasn't lag. I ran off and black crystaled the hell out of there.
it's not the first time i've encountered it either. fucking pc games are ruined
>>337008403
When this happened in Ds1, I often challenged myself to kill inf health fags by kicking them off legdes and the sort. Very satisfying.
>>337009817
that's a good point, anon. I should hold myself to a higher standard than these folk
