>2x faster than a Titan (but only in VR)
>No Async Compute
>Nvidia used benchmarks of DX11 games in benchmarks instead of using DX12 games to benchmark
>There was no technical information during the presentation at all
Why is /v/ is easily tricked by Nvidia's marketing?
>>336911219
But look how rad it looks dude! It's like a space ship or something, come on, man, wow!
Hard to get "tricked" into marketing if you can't even buy the product.
And I do not recall an optimized game that runs with DX12
>>336911219
>still six times faster than a ps4
I got a 980ti, using EVGA stepup to upgrade for free, selling 1080 for $450 ($150 loss) in a year, upgrading to AMD Navi (HBM2 card) for $100-200 Q1 2017.
>>336911472
Looks like it has a low poly count.
>>336912432
Navi hits in 2018 senpai.
>>336913008
Oh, I mean Vega.
Navi is going to destroy Nvidia. They're going for multiple GPUs on a single card again (like 2-3 of them), but the yield will be much greater than a single high end GPU (less chance of defects)
>>336913150
>Navi is going to destroy Nvidia
i wish your fantasy world were true bc competition is good for the market and consumer but sadly amd has only been relevant in terms of price for the past decade, nvidia and intel have always blown amd out of the water in terms of performance EXCEPT for compute performance like mining for bitcoins, AMD was/is great for that barring ASICs
be charitable and buy amd because they've been barely hanging on as a business for years
>>336913150
>amd destroying anything
They always hype shit up to impossible proportions with all the destroying rhetoric only to release it and post a 100 million dollar net loss next quarter.
The only thing AMD destroys are it's shareholders.
>Why is /v/ is easily tricked by Nvidia's marketing?
I'm an AMDfag but picking up a 1070 because it has insane price/performance and I'm sick of waiting for Polaris.
It's a $380 Titan X
>>336914307
By the time benchmarks come out for the 1070, AMD will have blown the competition out of the water with a release in late June.
Just wait.
>>336914307
It's not $380 though. The reference model is $449. It's very unlikely that non-reference models will be cheaper.
pic speaks for itself
>>336914307
Polaris will most likely hit this summer, you really can't wait a month or two?
>>336914391
The 1070 releases this month and AMD have been silent as fuck on Polaris you dumb nigger.
>>336914397
the 1070 has an MSRP of $379.99
Founders model is for faggots.
>>336914519
kek
>>336914391
AMD had to have reference watercooling to compete with the 980ti, they're not going to be able to top or compete with the 1080 (especially the ti model) whilst staying price-competitive
>>336914554
I have a fucking 7850.
I am sick of this underpowered piece of shit, it was great when I got it but now it's shit.
It was hard resisting the 390 to see if Pascal was good, and the 1070 is a better deal than the 390 unless they price drop it again.
could be worse.
>>336914593
founders edition = reference design
MSRP = meaningless
If you believe non-reference designs will be cheaper than the reference model you are suffering massive delusions
>>336914593
And up until like three days ago, Nvidia had been silent as well. Expect some sort of surprise release around E3
>>336914638
That was because of their architecture, they're using FinFET now and they're getting 980ti-tier performance at a fraction of the wattage meaning less heat.
Expect a $200-300 card that outperforms the 980
>>336914719
You've waited this long, wait another month if necessary ffs.
>>336914758
The AMD damage control is in full swing I see.
Make Roy Taylor proud.
>>336914758
Non-reference will probably be around 50 dollars more expensive, but I'm holding off for the extra 1-2 months it'll take to get a model with better OC potential. I don't buy cards every year, I have a 580 still.
>>336914519
Yeah, because it's so much better to have so many ups and downs. AMD wins by being stable.
>>336914554
Polaris will be released at Computex in 4 weeks a couple days before the 1070 goes on sale
>>336914870
AMD just won the Xbox One+, the PSNeo, the Nintendo NX and even the fucking Macbook APU designs
Their stock will be fine. AMD's Polaris/Zen should really help them.
Don't STOP, BuhLEEVIN!
>>336914870
You mean stable in losing money right?
But sure, if you bought AMD stock in 1999 you'd be so much better now, with your 20 cents for every dollar.
Beats having 20$ for every one invested every day.
>>336914808
It'll be the same as the 970 situation. AMD had plenty of more powerful cards available, but 90% of games designed specifically for the 970 at high/max settings so it was the most consistently good performance overall. The 1070 is going to become the new max settings standard and will run everything great, the 1080 will be for 4k/intensive VR.
>>336914825
Listen to the presentation carefully. They never mention a $379. They just say the MSRP is $379, but MSRP is meaningless if there is no product it applies to.
The only models you can actually buy are the $449 founders edition and whatever non-reference cards other manufacturers produce. None of the 3rd party manufacturers will make something cheaper than the reference model.
>>336911219
Because marketing is all about tricking you
People who obsess over this shit and buy the latest computer stuff don't realize they aren't even using half the power.
This shit is overkill.
>>336911219
>But only in VR
>only
How would that work
>>336914808
>Expect a $200-300 card that outperforms the 980
God that shit is going to sell better than sliced bread.
>>336915112
You realize the "Founder's Edition" is just a pretty term for better binned chips right?
>>336915030
Who the fuck cares about the stock? As a consumer, support the best product/value
Let's say the next gen of VR devices will have 4K screens. Will a 1080 be enough for that?
>>336915281
Nope, unless they have Foveated rendering that renders based on cornea tracking
Foveated rendering would allow a 970 to run 4K well.
>>336915246
>buy good performing graphics cards at launch and all the reviewers review them positively
>immediately later start pumping out the trash that people will buy
>people literally reply with 'it werks for me'
another brilliant market exploitation design by huang and nvidia
>>336915250
duhr, why care about the financial health of a company whose products i buy?
R&D, manufacturing, QA all cost money
>buh buh butt there's a nice indian lady that assures me over the phone i made a good purchase
>>336915246
They say repeatedly that the Founders Edition is designed by Nvidia. It's not a special version of the reference model, it IS the reference model.
>>336915250
>>336915430
Roy says good job ;) We would deposit 0.10$ in your account, but you know the situation.
>>336915430
This. The benchmarks are based on the premium card's performance (which has better OC potential/cooling solution)
I'm reserving my 1080 but I'll wait and see the real consumer benchmarks.
>>336915478
Did you miss the fact that they won the bid for producing for Apple/Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft now?
>Butthurt AMD cocksucker thinking MSRP means nothing
Are they really this desperate?
>>336915719
Not them but their benchmarks mean nothing until we see the non-founder edition benchmarks.
>>336915606
nope, they've had that for years, it's the only reason amd didn't go bankrupt
as i said, they win on price point and compute performance
nintendo, sony and microsoft want to produce as cheaply as possible
consoles aren't about the best tech, just good enough for joe six pack and his batch of 9 year olds to forget how shitty their life is for a few hours at a time
the best technology is expensive for a reason
>>336915719
Is it really that surprising?
>>336915606
Did it occur to you that they won in large part because they are the only company who can deliver an integrated x86 SoC for consoles all it's own?
>>336915979
And you think that the consumer will go for a $379 card?
The 970 didn't become the norm until a year later when it hit the $289-$319 market. After seeing how badly they fucked up with le 3.5gb meme and DX12 asynchronous compute, I think the target demo for these cards are going to be wary to say the least.
>>336915864
Not really, you can buy a better cooler if if they're that inferior to the founder cooler later.
>>336911219
As somebody who invests in nvidia and amd I don't get the nvidia love. Nvidia has become a half ass company as of late while amd is slowly gaining traction on them.
Nvidia better wake the fuck up.
>>336916151
>how badly they fucked up
>with the best selling card in recent memory
>that made AMD's marketshare shrink to less than 20%
Awful, just awful.
>>336916162
The founder editions have less "flaws" allowing a higher overclock.
>>336916261
This. I think this is the generation that'll go AMD's way. Especially on CPUs.
>>336911219
>>336911219
>(but only in VR)
good for me
>>336916292
20% in the computing market because of prebuilt branding deals and ARM tablets and phones and shit.
Let's count those X86-based consoles and that number goes up significantly.
>>336916431
It's marketing talk for viewports. Your card already has it, just not enabled.
>>336916323
People just don't realize how much AMD is putting into their products and partnerships this year while nvidia goes on about mobile gaming and Intel loses its grip on CPUs. AMD is finally stepping their game up.
>>336916487
>talks about dedicated GPU
>l-let's count the consoles too g-guise, allright
>>336916323
>The founder editions have less "flaws" allowing a higher overclock.
[citation needed]
>>336913150
>Navi is going to destroy Nvidia
yeah, amd is just gonna jump up and better one of the best video card generations ever, when they're barely surviving as it is. right-o buddy.
>>336916557
This is the same mantra I've been hearing for the past 10 years.
>>336913150
And then nvidia brings out something better in response.
>>336916630
search for it in your blind nvidia fanboy shilling handbook you nigger
>>336916557
>Intel loses its grip on CPUs.
Not happening, Intel has more powerful chips sitting on shelves they could release now if they wanted.
Intel makes insane profit on their higher end chips, Intel could kill AMD at any moment.
>>336916151
i think the pc gaming market is aging. i'm 31.
i've been an amd supporter for YEARS, but now that i have a decent job, i don't have to compromise on price, i buy what i want
i bought an i7 and then a 980 when they first came out switching from amd and i've never looked back. i'll wait for the 1080ti and sell my 980 on ebay, effectively making it a discounted upgrade
but the average consumer? nah, i think they'll buy consoles
>>336916717
>Spew shit out your ass
>I ask for source
>REEEE NO IM RIGHT YOU FANBOY NIGGER REEEEEEE
>>336911219
Can this card run Doom 1?
>>336914593
>this month
>June
>>336916630
Nvidia literally admitted it. The bin rate is much higher for the founders editions.
>>336916653
Nvidia's architecture is based on high end performance on a single wafer. This leads to defects, and only about 15% survive the top tier bin process
AMD's strategy of combining multiple wafers with a significantly lower defect count will lead to high performance at low pricing.
Also, look at AMD's performance recently. Crimson drivers and asynch compute is kicking Nvidia's ass.
>>336916856
go back to tumblr you underage moran
>>336911219
>Why is /v/ is easily tricked by Nvidia's marketing?
I wasn't.
If anything I severely pissed at Nvidia for saying Pascal would be an entirely new design overhaul with slimmer cards, quadruple the VRAM and quadruple the performance for a lower price.
Instead we got around 20% of a gain over a 980 Ti after billions of dollars in research and development and the same fatass cards with 2 GB of extra VRAM.
At least it's more power efficient I guess
>>336916762
Just because you're willing to spend $600+ on a GPU that offers a 20-30% increase over a mid-range AMD card in the $200-300 bracket doesn't mean everyone else will
Especially when those cards tank in DX12 performance
When will 3dfx come back and blow these degenerate upstarts away?
>>336917191
Just because you're poor doesn't mean everyone else is.
>>336917302
Never ever. The most we can hope for is that Samsung gets in on the X86 market action.
>>336917356
It's not about being poor or not, I don't think a 30% increase justifies 2x the cost. I make more than enough to afford my 980ti and I regret it every day. I want to go back to my 390.
>>336917356
>Spending twice as much money to get 70fps instead of 60fps
>This somehow makes you not poor
>>336917302
When will you stop posting this stupid shit in every thread?
>>336914181
>>336914519
>>336915030
>>336917191
the market disagrees with you
look, i really want amd to get their shit together and blow what essentially is a monopoly out of the water, but look at the history
>>336917448
>I hate nice things
>AdoredTV told me it's evil and Jesus frowns on me
>I want my 390 back
>>336911219
>it's another AMD jehovah's witnesses FUD spreading episode
>>336917635
Exactly. They are like clockwork, aren't they?
I really can't shake the feeling that AMD is more of a cult than a company.
>>336917617
stop samefagging and shittying up the thread ya retard, nvidia doesnt care about you, you're wasting your life away
kys
>>336914519
>>336914181
>Monopoly is good ;^)
>>336917706
I know, I know. Only AMD cares. AMD is love, AMD is life.
>>336917617
>nice things
>that "nice thing" that cost twice as much is being outperformed by the product that is literally 1/2 the price
>>336917792
Nvidia's shit is certainly anti-consumer and AMD's behavior is better for developers and the end-user's experience so yeah, they do care more about me as a dev/customer than Nvidia does.
>>336917691
It's just poorfag 101 tactics.
I find it simply hilarious that amd's market share is like 15% with a steady decline yet their jehovah's witnesses evangelists are all over the place making retarded promises that "next year it will be better" and spreading FUD about intel/nvidia. They bark the loudest despite being the tiny minority not because they are trying to convince others of anything. In fact, they are trying to convince themselves that they've made a good choice by buying the latest AMD turd.
>>336917617
the fuck is adoredtv? people mention it everyday after 1080 got announced
I will give AMD the benefit of the doubt and wait for its response if it comes during the next two months
if it won't be ready or will be shit im buying 1080
>this kills the AMD
>>336917962
>muh evangelists
Why don't they deserve those evangelists? A $300 card is outperforming the $600 one because AMD's strategy was better than Nvidia's focus on obscene tessellation that is completely invisible to the user
>>336918189
>obscene tessellation that is completely invisible to the user
if the user is blind that is, tesselation is fucking great
>>336912432
Is that image photoshopped? Wouldn't be surprised if it was real
>>336918138
love my 390 in same boat as you because will is weak and I can't go 100fps+ on 390 at 1440p
>implying im not just gonna use it to play League of Legends and watch porn
>>336917356
sup
rich guy here
don't buy nvidia
>>336917356
I'm rich but I can't justify spending more than $400 on a gpu
>>336918396
>implying you do not want to octuple image doubling at 128 neurons
>>336918273
Nvidia's Gameworks games have been using tessellation in places where it doesn't make sense (flat surfaces) and in hair (64x) where 8x has the same visual effect in order to say "LOOK GUYS AMD PERFORMANCE IS BAD".
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/834905/real-reason-why-witcher-3-hairworks-reduces-fps/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYL07c74Jr4
>>336917820
>that "nice thing" that cost twice as much is being outperformed by the product that is literally 1/2 the price
wut?
>buh buh buh that's not game performance!
show me fps counts where the 390x outperforms the 980ti
holy fucking jesus
Nvidia is so fucking shady artificially gimping the competition
DX12 will be only be relevant in 2 years, kek. Why would they do shit marketing by showing off how optimized current DX12 "tech demos" are?
>>336918598
>passmark
>he is serious
>>336917191
>20-30%
>comparing high-end nvidia with mid-range AMD
lets compare both high-end products from nvidia and AMD together
typically nvidia bros pay $200 for a maximum %10 increase.
but in dx12, the best stat i can think of, which has been already confirmed, is the 290x beating the 980ti in all native dx12 games. this has been tested more than once.
2016 will also see more than several dx12 games emerge. not sure why nvidia bros think dx12 is not important
>>336918826
It beats the 980, not the 980ti, but I wouldn't be surprised if the 490 beats the 1080 (while costing $300 less)
>>336918619
hey, you think the tessellation is the only thing which nvidia ruined within that game?
nvidia had the devs scrap all of the gfx at the last moment because AMD would still do a better job rendering. this is the reason why TW3 was delayed
they literally had to burn down the entire playing field because nvidia marketing really thought TW3 was going to be some epic masterpiece (nvidia bought the cdproject red hype) so they payed millions to cdproject red to do this
>>336918598
>>336918769
>buh buh buh that's not game performance!
>passmark
>he is serious
reading comprehension fail
>>336918476
8x tesselation doesnt look the same as 64x
There is a very small difference that you can see when youre looking very closely.
But there is no difference at all between 16x and 64x.
>>336914519
It sure does.
AMD sucks because of drivers, they always have.
Another big selling point for Nvidia is Shadowplay. Recording 60fps vids on the fly from any game or from your win desktop without any performace hit (any noticeable that is), is pretty great.
>>336919045
no, the 290x beats the 980ti
>>336919045
what game?
>>336919303
by one FPS
so its actually a tie
but still, $800 card vs. $400 card
>>336916754
Then why aren't they getting the contracts that amd is? AMD is up 57% for the year (even with poor er) while Intel is down and it'll keep up this way as long as amd keeps pursuing pc, console and vr tech. Intel might be better but they are losing ground to amd this year.
>>336919303
Even better. You can get a 290 for like $250
>>336916658
Yeah but that was back when Intel and nvidia had ambition instead of just trying to maintain financial performance.
>>336919396
Hitman 2016 (DX12)
I'm sure it'll beat the 980 in Deus Ex Mankind Divided and JC3 when it gets the DX12 renderer. I'm expecting 100+FPS in Doom 4
>>336919539
$250-300 card vs $600 card*
>>336918826
dx12, not supported by windows 7
enjoy your microsoft botnet
>>336914870
>stable stock price is a good thing
I dont think you understand how stock trading works.
>>336919542
>Then why aren't they getting the contracts that amd is?
Because Jews(figuratively and literally)
AMD is so desperate for growth they'll accept the most minimal of profit.
Intel also wants AMD alive(but weak) for antitrust reasons.
>>336919760
Exactly, no way I am "upgrading" to 10. Either way, the 1000 series has been confirmed to have async compute, so AMD can suck it.
>>336911219
>no Async Compute
http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/nvidia_claims_that_the_gtx_1080_supports_asynchronous_compute/1
>>336919830
Idiots here wouldn't know what a sideways stock means even if you sat down and explained it. These niggers are the same ones who push shit like MNKD on /biz/ lmao.
>>336919918
Async compute in software, not hardware-enabled
>>336919678
are we talking about release prices?
i could have sworn the 980ti cost almost $800
>>336920016
That's Maxwell. Pascal has hardware async compute.
>>336919894
I don't see why Intel would intentionally hand over contracts with China just to keep AMD around.
Debating on buying 2 1080 to replace my 670 sli.
>>336919678
hitman 2016 is not a native dx12 game
Has anything like dimensions been disclosed yet? I've been needing to upgrade my box for a while now, but I'm wondering if I'll just have to go with getting a new case/mobo as well.
>>336912245
And yet they use games that have DX12 support, but choose to use the dx11 benchmarks with them...
>>336920275
because DX12 is currently unstable as fuck in most games and wouldn't provide consistent results
Will PS4 Neo have a1070?
>>336920468
Vulkan will be implemented into Unreal Engine, Unity and Frostbite by the end of this summer. DX12 is already in SquareEnix' proprietary engine and CryEngine
If you're into value for your dollar, go AMD this gen.
>>336920131
Because as long as AMD is around you can't make a legal claim that NVidia is a monopoly. So whenever the accusation comes, they can point to them and say, "see we have competition
>>336920592
HAHAHA
>>336909086
Fuc>>336913150
Oh God are they going for Moar X (cores/gpu) again? Because that worked out so well last time
As a non-PCucks I always found the Nvidia vs AMD war hilarious.
>>336916956
>b-b-but that one shitty AMD Gaymen Involved RTS game that got 2/5 on Giant Bomb runs so much better because of async shaders, even though no other game but it uses them.
>>336920119
It does not
>>336919174
Today, I bought oranges for a racist schizo woman who made more sense than you do right now.
>>336917302
>When will 3dfx come back and blow these degenerate upstarts away?
3dfx was purchased by nvidia a long time ago grandpa, were you in a coma?
>>336920779
right because the xbone vs ps4 war is much better
AMD fans on suicide watch top kek
lol
how long does it usually take for the TI version to come out?
>>336911219
>DX12 games
What now?
>>336921005
yeah sorry,
but its true
nvidia really did cause cdproject red to downgrade all of those graphics at the last moment.
their reasoning behind this was because nvidia marketing department (who coincidentially don't know shit about games, like most other people of the entire company) really thought TW3 was going to be this generation milestone in gaming. so nvidia really poured a lot of money into cdproject reds pocket to "modify" the game to best suite nvidia. the hard evidence of this would actually be the tessellation, but that is only one piece of a larger puzzle.
the entire graphics of TW3 were scrapped at the last moment because it was the only other way to give GTX cards a clear advantage.
nvidia cards are better at rendering when graphcs become "less complicated".
this is actually because of the maxwell architecture
i keep spouting this on 4chan, but none of you idiots believe me
im telling you its true
>>336921901
Can't wait to see Polaris fail miserably on Doom with the vulkan api. I can almost taste the tears already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcF36_qMd8M
>>336911219
>Nvidia used benchmarks of DX11 games in benchmarks instead of using DX12 games to benchmark
Thats why they just showcased a DX12 demo with Doom4?
>>336922963
waaah why does nvidia make intelligent business decisions while amd continually makes poor ones?
>>336914719
nigga quit your fucking whining
When I bought this thing I said I'd buy a new card at 20nm, well guess what, they fucking skipped 20nm.
All I do nowadays is play GSG's, because I can't even run current games.
>>336916292
>marketshare
30% by shipped products, 40% by installed base
>>336922121
You should try typing not like a retard, maybe somebody will listen to you.
>>336911219
>Nvidia used benchmarks of DX11 games in benchmarks instead of using DX12 games to benchmark
Because there are ground up built dx12 games.
Maybe in 2-3 years.
>all these amdrone fags still going on about dx12 when not one game natively supports it
all this async shit is done in dx11_3. there is currently no game engine in a popular AAA game that supports dx12 fully. you have to actually build a new engine from the ground up to support dx12. all these games like hitman, gears ultimate and quantum break all use dx11 (dx9 for gears ultimate) with bolted on dx12 'features'. and we all know how shitty all 3 of those games run on both amd and nvidia hardware.
>>336918476
>>336919230
did you know that 64x is the maximum allowed in the DX11 spec?
>>336926541
its 20% by shipped products in favor of nvidia.
>>336919045
>980 Ti is OC'd by 300mhz
>390X is OC'd by 20mhz
ok
>>336926923
That was Q2 2015, it actually went back up to 28% in Q1 2016
Total install base remains 40%~
This doesn't include consoles mind you.
>>336926698
They showed Doom running at 150fps using Vulkan though..
>>336927026
390x doesn't have a lot of headroom with uber mode enabled. It is already pretty much the maximum it can attain from factory. Maxwell on the otherhand shipped out severely underclocked. You could easily boost core by 600mhz and memory by 1000mhz and maintain stability. Superior yields are superior.
>>336911219
Yea they pcucks after all
>>336927672
Which is why the average OC is 1200mhz?
Hawaii has a baseclock of 727mhz, I'm not sure why people forget that.
>>336927532
the market share (shipped units) went up down from 81% in Q3 to 79% in Q4 but still in favour of nvidia. there's no way amd could have gained an extra 7% market share in 3 months with no major release in Q4 15.
>>336928150
went down*
>>336928150
What graphs are you looking at. The ones I'm looking at had 22% in Q3 and 24% in Q4
My guess was DX12
>>336928448
https://jonpeddie.com/press-releases/details/high-end-add-in-boards-shipments-increased-in-2015-while-all-else-declined
>>336919542
>why arent they going for low profit margin business
Because then they would make less than now. Providing semi custom stuff is literally a penny business, that wouldnt make sense for Intel as this would cause them to lose ressources for markets that actually matter.
The only reason AMD is the one doing all the semi custom stuff is exactly because they are poor as fuck and will do anything for 1 buck and a hot meal.
>>336928510
Jon Peddie doesn't include workstation or mobile sales, and has spotty international coverage.
I mean if you want numbers for US desktop sales, sure.
>>336911219
>>No Async Compute
>>336928873
this is a gpu thread so i assumed we were talking about gpu shipments. they can't be so off the mark with their charts. there may be a half percent margin of error but i very much doubt that they can be a whole 5% off the mark. either way, nvidia holds a commanding lead with shipped units and this will ultimately benefit them, along with their (sometimes misleading) marketing when it comes to the new gpu generation.
>DX11 benchmarks instead of using DX12
isn't DX11 the only relevant benchmark for the foreseeable future
How important is async computing? I hear about it more and more. Should I just skip this gen of cards and wait?
>>336930321
You should stop trusting shitposters and just read stuff yourself >>336929359
>>336930321
It has to do with the execution of multiple types of instructions on a GPU at the same time to maximize utilization of the GPU.
It can be thought of akin to Intels Hyperthreading in a way.
It's not something tied to any one graphical technique, but more a general shader performance improvement.
>>336929359
>>336930686
They said the same thing about Maxwell, but it required a complete buffer flush between actually doing the operations so it was slow. Wait for actual reviewers to test the chips.
>>336911219
Hardcore shilling, go look at the No Man's Sky threads. Same shit there as well.
>>336930321
the future when moores law kicks in
>>336915719
Hardware sites are already confirming that the Founders Edition is the only reference model and will cost $699
Board partners are allowed to price their non-reference model any way they like, but are they really going to undercut the reference model by $100? Unlikely. How on earth would they make a cooler $100 cheaper than what Nvidia made on the reference model?
>>336920592
It will have a slightly cut down Polaris 10.
980+ performance
whens the 1070 itx?
I'm hoping that 1070 is not horribly gimped and my local resellers won't add more than 50 bucks to the price.
If 1070 will be shit I'll have to get more money to get 1080.
It was such a bad decision to get 770 with 2 gigs back in 2013. It doesn't hold up solely because of it.
No news on the Pascal Titan or 1080Ti yet? I want one of the, rather than these jewish half-powered GP104 cards.
GP200 or bust.
>>336933096
mid 2017 at the earliest.
It took 1.5 years from the release of the 680 (medium sized Kepler) to the 780ti (big Kepler)
>>336933557
I don't think that's right. The 780Ti came out about 5-6 months after the 780. Judging on this May release we should see the 1080Ti before xmas.
Pic related: release date data for 700 series.
>>336934572
>780 is clearly GK110
>770 was a rebranded GK104 ie 680
>1080 is GP104
right
>>336935326
What are you confused about?
>>336934572
First generation 28nm flagship was 680 just like the 1080 is now the first generation 16nm flagship.
It will be a year at least before they can produce a big version of Pascal in sufficient quantities to make a 1080ti or 1180ti or however they will call it.
The chip is already in production today (GP100), but it's not available in quantities until early 2017 even for server manufacturers. Consumers will only get their hands on it mid 2017
>>336935471
It was 6 months from the release of a cut down GK110 card, the 780, from the full GK110 card, the 780 Ti
But it was 14 months from the release of the GK104 cards, to the release of even the cut down GK110 cards
On the same timetable, we should see full GP100 cards for consumers in fucking Jan/Feb 2018
>>336935660
It's not available at all lol, the chips are desoldering themselves from the interposer.
>>336915250
this.
All you corporate fanbois are a bunch of faggots.
Think for yourelves, you fucking sheep.
I just buy the best product when I upgrade. Whatever that happens to be at the time.
>>336914519
>tfw you didn't invest a thousand bucks in Nvidia shares around 2009
>or even earlier this year
Feels damn bad, m8s.
>tfw my two 780Ti are oblosete only because nvidia want's to sell new bideo gards
fug
>>336938863
>59
780Ti was obsolete when Maxwell came out. I sold my two 780Tis for 900 USD total when the 980Ti launch and bought a 980Ti which easily out performed both cards in all games. Gonna sell my 980Ti and get a 1080 until the 1080Ti comes out early next year.
Feelsgudman
Video cards like that are massive overkill anyway unless you want 4k resolution with everything maxed out you don't even need that much power for VR.
There always has to be a market for those people who's entire purpose is life is 3dmark score
>MUH BENCHMARKS
>>336939840
Nvidia's fw they see you coming
>>336939984
4K is a meme
I'd much rather have 3440x1440 144hz, which takes a shitload of horsepower to run
Silicon wall is being hit suck it up.
>>336940746
>ultrawide
>not a meme
>>336914285
>The only thing AMD destroys are it's shareholders
>>336939840
Don't buy early on this one, trust me
Those are risk production GDDR5X chips, they're not going to have the lifetime production ones will have.
t. launch day HD4870 (first GDDR5) owner
>>336941503
>Don't buy early on this one, trust me
That is what EVGA's legendary customer support is for. The second I have a problem I submit a ticket and they send me a brand new cards with a return label and I send my old one back.
It has happened before and it won't be the last time.
>>336940645
I get over 70% of the original value of the cards used when I sell and that more than covers the price of an upgrade plus extra left over. It is win-win and I get to stay at the top of the benchmarking world.
>>336941041
It isn't a meme considering 21:9, 2.35:1, 2.39:1, or 2.40:1 has been the standard in film for like 75 years.
>>336914719
7850 is still baller with the new drivers. Is another 7850 for crossfire out of the question? They're like 80-100 bucks right now and crossfire would be about an 290-390 equivalence in performance.
"In about ten years or so, we will see the collapse of Moore’s Law. In fact, already, already we see a slowing down of Moore’s Law"
Michio Kaku, 2012
>>336914285
Tell that to my 120% gains bitch.
Why would people want AMD to fail? I believe it would be extremely bad for consumers if nvidia would be the only guy around. You'd pay double for the shit you have now with half the performance.
I for one hope AMD to be succesful so we have some healthy competition.
