Is this the best boss in the game? I don't mean the hardest, but the best style and music. Just listen to that score:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s
Hardest boss is something like Nameless King right? Or Pontiff?
>>336893105
Yhorm has the best music. Too bad that fight is trash.
>>336893298
Yeah that was pretty great as well. I think it was made to make you feel like a badass, especially with your buddy Siegward helping you out.
What's with Miyazaki and feminine boys?
>>336893105
This fight was by far my favorite mainly because it was the most visually thematic. I loved how the story and relationship of the two brothers was visualized in their movement and design. Fucking genius I say.
Not sure I liked this boss. The entire encounter gave me that yaoi vibe.
>Tfw you realize Lorian is a literal retard
>Tfw Lothric didn't wanna become a Lord of cinder so that he could take care of his brother.
>>336893105
It would be infinitely better without choir, just violin only. Still one the best theme in DS3.
>>336895262
maybe because you're gay son
The teleporting was disorienting as fuck. Never quite got used to it - didn't really like the boss. I can see the appeal though.
Ds3 had so many good bosses
>Soul of Cinder
>Abyss Watchers
>Champion Gundyr
>Nameless King
>Dragonslayer Armour
>Ocerios
>Pontiff
Who did you have more trouble with, Nameless or this guy?
>>336896021
Him due to his fucking charge.
I loved the mid fight cutscene.
Post your favorite autistic soulsbourne boss.
>>336896021
Beat this guy first try. Nameless raped me over and over again though.
>>336894991
Lords in DS1: Skeletal monster, albino dragon with unique design, BED of chaos, 4 extremely deformed kings
Lords in DS2: bunch of corpses, giant spider, balrog and woman so ugly, you should with her in the dark room.
Lord of Cinders: 2 ladyboys, legion of furries and bara giant.
>>336896352
REEEEE GET THE FUCK OUT YOU IGNORANT SLAVE
WHERE'S MY MARY SUE ULTRA COOL DRAGON CHILD
>>336893105
>best boss
>the linkin park prince
*teleports behind you* This is our graves *charges demon prince killing sword* But you can rest here too if you want *impales you with laser*
>>336893105
Sorry for randomly dropping in but I'm about to start a Caestus build. I'm comparing the Knight and the Warrior and it just seems like Knight is the best class to start with for the majority of melee builds. Should I go Warrior or just stick with Knight?
I agree, Banjo & Kazooie are a pretty good encounter.
Lothric is the one teleporting Lorian
>>336895359
Why is he a retard? He's just really close with his little bro
Dancer is actually the best boss and it's crazy how underrated she is
>>336896781
Because of the curse. This time the literal part is actually, well, literal.
>>336896816
Dancer fight is beautiful. First time i fought her i was mesmerized by her attacks in the 1st phase. It really feels like a dance.
>>336895694
Dragonslayer armour would've been so good if it didn't have the two things occasionally shooting shit at you, it ruined the atmosphere of the bossfight when you got like 20 peices of 0 dmg shit flung at you from offscreen. Why couldn't that have just made it a part of his moveset?
Like he does the shitty two hit shield bash then smals it down and does the fire beam himself or something.
Also abyss watchers would've been way better if you couldn't backstab him, he had more hp and it didn't have the first half but instead had a leadup area of weaker abyss walkers like the massive bridge before the prince and then give it a few more moves. As it is, it's mostly just chain parry/backstab.
>>336896816
>Pope to dancer
>"Y'know, you should try spinning. It's a good trick."
>>336897091
Your ideas are so shit its unbelievable.
>>336893105
Artistically it's pretty fantastic.
Mechanically it is fucking retarded, as is the case for any boss that uses teleportation mechanics
>>336893298
>Too bad that fight is trash.
For me it was great because I was too stupid to figure out how to use the Stormruler. Even though I knew about the sword from DeS, I didn't think to charge the weapon art to its maximum power, so I thought you had to upgrade the weapon first, but didn't want to use titanite scales to do that.
Moveset wise he isn't that difficult so it becomes a battle of perseverance. That way you also get to experience his Ember form attacks more, plus you can also break his poise and perform an actually damaging riposte to his face like you can do to Nameless King's dragon.
>>336897091
Those things are controlling it, it's just an armor.
>>336897315
What where those things anyways?
>>336893105
Anyone else put out the fire and then feel bad about beating the twins?
Also did the firekeeper steal my eyes wtf is that ending anyways? I was expecting serpent party.
>>336896021
The champ, nameless took me 3 tries and the champ 7-9.
Never got used to his fast punch and dash
>>336895694
He pretty much just teleports behind you for lunges. Sometimes he'll port twice if you keep rolling but it's usually to try to get behind you.
>>336897427
Pilgrim Butterflies, otherwise known as the guys who were travelling around with those turtle shells on their back.
They do that mainly to keep the Dark from creeping up from their shadow and taking them over to produce the Pus of Man, but have an ace in the hole regardless that may or may not work:they put a seed from a tree inside of their dark sign, embedding it within themselves, because trees are seen as the form of life to them, or something just as spiritually symbolic
They die, regardless, and from thatthe tree blooms from their person, mixing and bending with the Abyssal shit within them to produce those Pilgrim Butterflies, whom are heavily implied to be "angels" to the fat guys in the armors, though I don't think its that explicitly stated
>>336896021
>champion is hard
please stop spreading these lies
I went in thinking it was going to be the fight of the game and it was pathetic
>>336897453
Yes, I was pretty confused that with End of Fire ending I still should beat 2 cripples.
>>336897427
"Pilgrim butterflies." The things that the tree people on the high wall are growing into. Also apparently the "cocoons" are the turtle shell things on the backs of the guys in the opening cinematic.
>>336897453
You gave her the Firekeeper Eyes you found in the dark version of Firelink Shrine, not your own eyes.
Ending explanations:
Link the Fire =Link the Fire 2.0
End of Fire =just fuck the world's shit up senpai (with the possibility of something new being in the future?)
End of Fire whereyou kill the Firekeeper=same as previous but with Dickhead Asshat Extraordinarie flavor
Usurpation of Fire =Dark Lord 2.0
I sure hope DaS3 does DaS2:SotFS again and provides one more new ending, because I didn't feel like any of those were a proper "finale" to the series.
>>336896816
Agreed. I'd put Twin Princes and Abyss Watchers up there too but Dancer was well done overall.
>>336896352
Pic related
>>336897831
Then how come DSP took 69 tries to beat him. He's a good way to measure how hard a boss is to the average gamer right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8zQxxTXqgo
>>336897191
How so?
>>336898138
Considering how he plays MGS3, no, he's below average.
Why was the soul of cinder trying to stop you?
>>336893105
>>336893298
Are you guys retarded?
Dragonslayer armor has the best music and style, and it wasn't piss easy or a gimmick fight.
Just listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy2OCRmxVAY
>>336898201
For the armor see this >>336897315 >>336897776
Now you would change abysswatchers from free for all unique battle to generic boss with mobs guarding him.
>>336898278
Same as Gwyn probably. Testing your strength (a strong soul is required for the Kiln) or preventing you from ushering an Age of Dark. Gwyn was most definitely hollow when you met him and thus insane, and I'm not sure if Soul of Cinder is even sentient since its an amalgamation of souls of the previous fire linkers.
>>336898138
>gundyr charges
>"what the fuck i didn't do anything"
exactly, fucking retard
is there any hope of this guy beating soul of cinder?
>>336898330
>and it wasn't piss easy
Anon...
>>336893105
I honestly didn't like the boss as much as I should have because I had to get through a fucking million ganksquads as well as a bastardization of the lead-up from 1-1 to get to these fucking assholes each time.
On top of that, the teleporting is less impressive as much as it is absolutely fucking unneeded. After reading the lore and shit, I get why he would need to teleport to move and shit, but it's also kind of silly as to why he's another boss that's just a human figure pushed into a lower position and is crawling around, but every time I saw him use his legs, it just got fucking silly because I kept asking myself, "why don't you fucking stand up, then, you retard."
At least he has the common decency to not have combos that last for fucking days just for the sake of catching you off-guard because the exposure to it is literally so tedious that you want it to get it done and over with faster, like Soul of Cinder and Pontiff. Then again, I didn't really get that much experience with it because I was sick and tired of fire chip-damage to the point of where I just ended up pushing his shit in from behind.
It was an okay boss, but I don't really get why too many people liked it. Maybe I was just feeling annoyed upon fighting it and that detracted from the overall experience, but I still just don't find it too memorable at all.I found it really disappointing that the only humanoid boss fight that I really really enjoyed was Dragonrider because he actually had such beautiful combos and such a goddamn impressive arena on top of it. The Pilgrim Butterflies often missed us both in our fight, so it just lit up the arena and made it fucking mesmerizing.
>>336898636
>because I had to get through a fucking million ganksquads
You know there is an elevator shortcut and you don't have to fight a single enemy to get to them right?
>>336898636
>why don't you fucking stand up, then, you retard
Because he is a retard
>>336898636
Anonthere was a shortcut right before the boss room that led back right before to dragonslayer armor.
>>336898721
>>336898761
God fucking christ, there's so many goddamn shortcuts.
Here I was thinking the ones before the stairs leading up the boss room were the last.
Fucking christ, I need to play through it again.
>>336898636
I think the idea is that both brothers are in some way accounting for each others weaknesses
Lorian acts as a bulwark for lothric, with the brute strength and rapid attacks, whereas the defenceless lothric moves him around accounting for the lack of mobility, while also providing range attacks
I like that this changes up a 2 boss fight for the better
The reason he get's up every once is to further emphasise the fact that he's almost falling over as he tries to hit you
>>336898385
Fair enough on the dragon armour, I didn't know that, I still don't like the shitty bead attack that comes from offscreen though, it just ruins the feel of the fight. The fire attack is super cool though, and it almost never hits you so it just makes the fight seem cooler.
I didn't like the first stage, you just parried him twice, ran around until the third one spawned and killed him before it died.
It really punished you for having a shitty weapon and forced you to play super defensive if you didn't have decent stamina to get away from them after a parry.
I've always liked the one on one fights with something that doesn't that don't have cheese in them. Artorias is my favorite boss by far, followed by the second last boss fight from god hand and then the lady from the clocktower in BB. The one on one fights always feel the best, having your concentration ruined by 40 dmg coming from offscreen is just plain annoying and it doesn't play to the strengths of souls combat.
>>336897776
I'm pretty sure that the angels are referring to Primordial Serpents. There's a statue of one with wings near the Dragonslayer Armor Bonfire.
>>336898636
There's a shortcut man, there's always a shortcut.
>>336898875
>not exploring everything before going through fog walls/obvious boss rooms
only yourself to blame. It wasn't even that hidden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT-E_DTA8Q8
>>336893298
If you do it right, with the Onion Knight, it's pretty fucking fun.
>>336898909
>and rapid attacks
Tbh, he is pretty slow.
This fight reminded me of Artorias. Not gameplay-wise, but I`ve got similar "I want to see this guy in his prime" feelings.
>>336893568
>>336899223
>Siegward walks in
>Oh ok he gotta kill his friend
>He gets killed really fast while I figure out the Storm Ruler
>Doesn't show up again next time I go in
>Have to kill Yhorm for both of us
that was fucked up, even more when I went back there and found his armor
>>336898909
In a whole lot of cases, I was probably really annoyed with the boss battle to never really get the good parts of it instead of the bad, since I had to end off what was actually a cool fucking area with millions of ganksquads out of nowhere.
It's not like I don't respect them as a part of lore, since I understand thatthe Lothric bloodline basically utilized and fucked with their souls to produce a jerry-rigged manner to linking the fires, so to speak, which goes nicely into why they see their area as a grave, since at this point they're basically being siphoned for shit and trying their best to get by on what little they havebut it was just a weird way to introduce a boss, since the concept of humanoid bosses in slouched positions never really got to me as it did for most other people.
Except for maybe Vordt. Vordt was fucking crazy cool, in my opinion.
>>336898969
Yeah, I noticed those, as well as somestatues in the Cathedral of the Deepbut I didn't really think them as the Primordial Serpents until later on. Brings up a lot of questions overall.
I hope they elaborate on how those guys tick and did what they did other than just for the sake of manipulation. It'd be a pretty nice DLC to have to go through all that information and shit.
>>336899654
He tanked the dude for me in my go, we alternated between blasting him and distracting him.
all boss music sounds the same in this game
>people rate Abyss Watchers highly for difficulty
>every run including my first I go crazy farming all the gear and upgrade materials I want since you've basically got everything after Vordt all the way to the bonfire past the darkwraiths after the big door in Farron Keep completely open
>usually do quite a bit of pvp and pve in the Undead Settlement, Crucifixion Woods and Farron Keep as well so I have boatloads of souls to level with
>combine that with having gotten gud at Artorias by doing him at SL10 more than once and Abyss Watchers are a cheese every time
>Implying Souls bombastic choirs are ever good
Only times they've been anything other than unremarkable are with the Abyss Watchers and Bloodborne's Main Menu theme. Souls music is so painfully average in general.
>>336900010
t. someone who browsed and shitposted in countless Souls music threads but has never actually played them
>>336900010
t. someone who browsed and shitposted in countless Souls music threads but has never actually played them
>>336899654
>go into boss fog with him, thinking the same thing
>I end up letting him try and kill his friend, helping him, don't really understand that the Stormruler's nearby
>Sieg fucking dies in the battle
>get the stormruler and kill the boss, only to realize he could of lived if I had noticed earlier
>favorite NPC dies because of me
This shouldn't have made me feel as bad as it did.
>>336899987
Ass Watchers have far too little health to be a serious threat, and the fact that they can be parried, backstabbed and stunlocked just adds insult to injury.
I really like it as a boss though, and doing it before Crystal Sage makes it a bit tougher, especially if you haven't been leveling Vigor that much.
Underrated boss, fighting him is different than the other melee bosses since he's a wizard but he's hardier and more challenging than any other caster boss. And his design is awesome.
Prince Twins are overall my favorite, but he's a close second for me.
>>336900178
But I've played them all, multiple times each. I've posted twice complaining about Souls music, and one of those threads was a general "post your favorite track of a game". If you're curious, it was the Fool's Idol theme from DeS.
What's your personal God Tier boss list?
For me it's gotta be:
>Artorias
>Sir Alonne
>Fume Knight
>Ivory King
>Darklurker
>Ludwig
>First Hunter
>Nameless King
>Abyss Watchers
>>336900359
I knew there was something else, I always wind up doing the entire Cathedral of the Deep beforehand as well, loads of large shards so I wind up with a +5 at least weapon going in
>>336900394
wtf aldrich is a woman?
>>336900482
false king
artorias
kalameet
manus
ornstein and smough
fume knight
ivory king
sir alonne
orphan of kos
ludwig
ebrietas
nameless king
abyss watchers
pontiff sulayvahn
twin princes
>>336900482
O&S, Artorias, Mirror Knight, Papa G, Logarius, Pontiff, Twins and Soul of Cinder.
I fall into dudes with weapons meme.
Didn`t play DS2 dlcs and currently raped by Ludwig in OH.
>>336900482
>All dudes in armour
Well, at least you're consistent.
>>336900394
>friend tells me about Aldritch and how much bullshit he is
>play against him after running into the fogwall
>all those projectiles that go well together
>O&S's room with all that atmosphere of the derelict Anor Londo
It only took me two tries to kill him, but fuck I wish I had more difficulty so I could experience fighting him again. He was a blast.
The only bad part to the entire thing was howthere was all those Cathedral of the Deep enemies littering the fucking floors leading up the boss room right after you just got done looking at your favorite giant blacksmith bro dead on the ashy floor of a great castle you visited before
If there's one fucking thing that could be considered missed potential, it was the ability to utterly fuck with players and make them uncomfortable and nostalgic as they went up to the familiar areas they walked on before so long ago.
>>336900757
Those are the best bosses, though. Big generic demons and animals are always awful because 9/10 you just stand next to them and half their repertoire sails over your head.
>Ludwig
>guy in armor
>>336900757
Dudes in armour are the fucking best, I never understood this meme.
>>336900394
The thing is, if he never does his Darkmoon Bow attacks, he's an absolute cheese, and if he decides to spam them you might as well just stand still and try again with all your estus back.
Pontiff, Nameless King and Soul of Cinder can be tricky but they feel challenging and rewarding too. Aldritch's difficulty is almost entirely luck based.
Great design though I agree, I figured from the intro cinematic he'd be an amorphic blob kind of like the Phalanx from Demon's Souls. Noticing Crown of the Dark Sun and realising it was Gwyndolin's torso, then realising I had been dodging his skittles the entire fight was on par with picking up Stormruler and the Artorias phase of the Abyss Watchers
>>336900646
>She
>>336900997
>she
>>336900482
>DeS
False King, that blind warrior in Shrine of Storms.
>DaS
All of the bosses of the DLC, O&S, Quelaag, Sif, Four Kings.
>DaS2
All of the bosses of the DLC, except for the optional areas and the fucking sabercat of Eleum Loyce (after beating the twin sabercats I want NOTHING else to do with these fucks ever again), Vendrick (dat music), Velstadt, Throne Watchers, Lost Sinner, the poison medusa and Duke's Dear Freja (I really liked the spiders in that game for some reason)
>DaS3
Abyss Watchers, Dragonslayer Armor, Nameless King, Soul of Cinder, GUNDYR BITCHES FAVORITE BOSS IN THE ENTIRE SERIES, Sulivahn.
>Bloodborne
All of the Hunter bossfights, Orphan, Amygdala, Logarius and Shadows of Yharnam. I really didn't like the flaily beasts in Bloodborne, more annoying to fight than difficult. I wish Ludwig's fight consisted solely of his second phase.
surprise of surprises, OP appreciates the style of the literal closet fag who refuses to get off his knees
>>336893105
The boss felt so weak and flaccid. It feels even worse after just beating a great boss (Dragonslayer) and grinding through a large area, to fight fucking Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
Plus, for being the second to last boss there was absolutely no build up. at least with the other lords you had some build up.
>FUCK my words
What did he mean by this?
>>336897776
>abyssal shit
please stop
>>336898636
>1-1
>not 1-3 + 1-4
you can't appreciate anything, not my fucking problem
>hear about people complain and complain that Abyss Watchers was hard
>never get summoned for it
>>336900482
Only god
DeS
>Storm King
>False King Allant
>Old Hero
>Tower Knight
>Adjudicator
>Maneaters
>Maiden Astraea
>Penetrator
DaS
>Biggie and Smalls
>4 Kings
>Artorias
>Manus
>Sanctuary Guardian
>Sif
>Priscilla
DaS II
>Raime (Fume Knight)
>Ivory King (otherwise known as how to make the Penetrator boss fight one of the most memorable mob bosses in the entire series)
>Demon of Song
>Velstadt
>Nashandra
>Elana
DaS III
>Gundyr (both Iudex and Champion)
>Curse-Rotten Greatwood
>Aldritch
>Dragonslayer Armor
>Nameless King
>Crystal Sage
>>336899654
>>336900192
I'VE FAILED... AGAIN. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT
>>336900482
>>336900737
>>336901065
Alonne seems to be universally loved. I hate that fucker, if only he didn't have bullshit hitboxes
>>336900482
>DeS
False King, Flamelurker
>DaS
O&S, Arty, Kalameet, Manus
>DS2
Fume, Alonne, Ivory, Darklurker
>BB
Abhorrent Beast, Orphan, Gherman, Ludwig
>DS3
Pontiff, Nameless, Soul of Cinder, Champ, L&L
>>336900482
O&S, Artorias in DLC
Only fight in 2 I liked was Sihn
Ludwig in DLC, Gascoigne & Ebrietas main game.
Nameless King in all aspects.
>>336901604
I don't remember a fat fuck piece of shit cockblocking me at every opportunity just before the boss fog, dog.
Neither do I remember a bullshit dragon that breathes death and destruction on you wherever you go.
Now, if we're not talking about the very top of Lothric Castle after the Dragonslayer boss fight, thenYes, that entire area screamed Boletaria to me. They also somehow managed to surpass Fat Officials with those armored fat fucks with the angelic pillar Miracles
>>336902223
The fat officials were the Evangelists in the Undead Settlement, not the winged knights
>>336902223
>Neither do I remember a bullshit dragon that breathes death and destruction on you wherever you go.
There were two, one of which was just laying about until it decided to attack (blue drake, right dragon after Dragon Barracks bonfire) and the other which had dogged you throughout the area (red drake, left dragon that flies up from the high wall to fuck your shit up).
>>336898476
Soul of Cinder was much easier compared. Champion, Pontiff and Nameless are the hardest bosses in the game.
>>336902668
>Now, if we're not talking about the very top of Lothric Castle after the Dragonslayer boss fight
Anon, I remembered.
>>336902495
Oh lord, do I know. I nearly had a fucking heart attack when I first saw them.
I meant that in a way that they're just as annoying, though, which goes hand in hand with how I said they "somehow managed to surpass Fat Officials,"
>>336896021
>PC crashes when I'm two hits away from killing him
>Get him the second time
He's designed to punish people who can't time their rolls and panic roll a lot.
Pretty fun fight though.
>See people complaining about Champion, Pontiff and Dragonslayer armor being difficult
I beat all three of them on my first try
Dragonslayer was boring af
Pontiff was cool but his Stand was useless
Champion was baller from start to finish but he's too easy to dodge
Conversely it took me like 15 tries to get past Aldrich and the BingoBangoBrothers took me a couple
>>336901482
"Rise... If you wood!"
Some gay FROM SOFTWARE Fujoshi shit writing gook thought this was acceptable? Fucking yaoi fanfics? Seriously, SJWs have ruined gaming, DS3 is a mistake.
the bosses in ds3 are gay as fuck according to vaati in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz8KJYpRh28
personally, i think there should have been some more optional bossess with actual health bars
like, instead of 3 stray demons and an old demon king boss fight,
the other three demon bosses from DS1 should have been subbed in for the 3 ashy ODK clones
>>336901975
>>336901801
>tfw Darklurker never even split for me when I fought him
Why though
Also, Velstadt is cool as fuck. He just needs to be more aggresive, honestly
>>336895694
Interesting note:
Lothric is the one teleporting Lorian around
>>336903087
Are you new here?
Does Oceiros have anything to do with the twin princes since he was king of Lothric once?
>>336903436
I imagined their relationships like this
>cuck king who receives two pussy sons who won't link the Fire, despite the entire family's obsession with magical eugenics and producing proper heirs
>Oceiros turns to Dragon fuckery and wants a worthy child of Dragons who is a worthy heir to him and goes mad in the process of researching furry shit
>>336903436
maybe he's their father
>>336904807
I imagone everyone got pissed at oceiros being a giant weirdo and agreed to let him ramble on for eternity in his garden
>>336894991
mommy issue,
>>336896750
>caestus build
YOU
SORRY
FOOOOOOOL
>>336905920
I decided to go with Knight. Just got to Farron keep for shards and besides the low damage it's kinda fun. Can't wait to regret this
>>336893105
First time in a long time that I've felt like I might be on the wrong side of history. The music played a big part of it too, it felt very dramatic and fatalistic. Too bad it was a bit too easy.
The Dancer certainly was king in the atmosphere department though. That music was genius.
>>336904807
>cuck
Get out.
>>336896750
Ok, here is how you make a good viable caestus build.
>you equip it in left hand
>you equip hornet ring
>you get respectable weapon
>you spam parry
There is no other way to play with daggers/fists.
>>336906145
My second run was a faith build so I know all about regret.
>>336906406
I don't PvP
>>336906725
Pure faith or mostly faith?
Either way I"m impressed you didn't kill yourself
>>336895694
Soul of Cinder may be the best fight in ant DS game.
>>336896816
I'd like it more if the Xbox One could handle it well enough to keep it from lagging.
>>336907193
then you are golden. Fists are pain only because of rolling.
Lothric is a trash bossfight. Its literally a 10 minute long poke match. Unlike Yhorm or a lot of other bosses, he teleports, and teleports even more in second phase, so you can't position yourself for shit against him.
Its like Dragonslayer Armor: Its a great fight if you got a summon, just so its no longer a poke match
>>336896021
Gundyr will only charge if you are too far away. The movment you double light roll after a attack, is a free heal. On the top of that, he can be parried, so he is literally a bitch.
boss music is all good and dandy and stuff. but i really love this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYhbmugFd2Q
i cant stop listen to this dope shit
>>336908346
You finally proved us that you fit in. Now we can laugh at casuls together. Let us remember this day, that anon finally fit in for a long time to come. Also to all you casuls ITT right now, git gud >:^)
>>336907193
Quality/Faith. I'm currently at Aldritch and I decided to go and murder Emma so I could raid Consumed King's Garden for Titanite Chunks. I'm doing piss poor damage and I can't believe i thought this would scale well in any way. I want to go hit up Rosaria but I'm also trying to do Sirris' quest
>>336908346
>enemies use a gap closer when far away
>humanoid boss can be parried
It's almost like that thing that's a safe bet is so for a reason
>>336908884
>quality
>bad scaling
After hollow/bleed literally the best damage. What the fuck are you saying? I bet you will be using buffs and shit too.
>tfw 3v3ing random invaders with cosplay builds
>tfw you roll a blunt with nameless king
>>336896750
There's a build calculator somewhere on the internet where you plug in your ideal stats and soul level and it tells you which class to pick.
>>336902676
I didn't find pontiff very hard on my first play through
>best music
>twin princes, yhorm, abyss watchers, dragonslayer armor
>not a single mention of OOOOOH, AAAAAH, OOOOOH AAH OOOOOH
shame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIX_-AMuAhY
the wind instruments during the end of the first minute and later on give it a warcraft 2 ost vibe
also, dancer ost + fight, the fight was mentioned ITT, but the violins fit it so good it still gives me shivers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3xQga-2LX4
>>336902676
Champion can be parried.
Pontiff can be parried.
Nameless is a 10 minute poke match, except some of his moves allow you to empthy your stamina bar hammering him.
I hope Ocelotte makes an appearance in the DLC
>>336910672
mild reee
While we are on the subject of good bosses, I think Aldrich has my favorite lore of all.
>hear all about this Aldrich dude devouring gods and shit
>keep this in mind as I enter Anor Londo
>"huh, it's Al- HOLD ON IS THAT FUCKING GWYNDOLIN WOW BUDDY YOU SURE LET YOURSELF GO HUH"
>as I'm fighting him, I start noticing how weird and puppet-like his movements are, and how ominous his music is.
>look at his name again
>put two and two together
>oh fuck that's morbid
>kill him as fast as possible
>hours later
>remember how Aldrich does his weird scream when he teleports
>mfw Aldrich doesn't have vocal cords
>mfw that's Gwyndolin screaming
>mfw I have no face
>>336909230
Quality has bad scaling when you only got 16/16 str/dex
>>336912952
>Quality
>16/16
Fucking why? Thats not what quality means. Its like saying I am Int/str build because I got 10 str to wield a longsword.
>>336895262
>not liking the only true form of love
>>336899297
cue DLC where you cripple the poor elder prince
I have a special place in my heart for the Soul of Cinder boss theme.
I wish he was beefier and stronger though.
>>336897776
>Pilgrim Butterflies, whom are heavily implied to be "angels" to the fat guys in the armors, though I don't think its that explicitly stated
Not a theory I've heard before. Interesting and definitely possible, but if there is any such implication I didn't see it. Plus, the Pillars of Light miracle and the prevalence of feathers around anything associated with the angels didn't really scream 'flying tree monsters' to me.
>>336898969
>>336899683
Now see when I first saw the Primordial Serpent statues in Lothric Castle I thought 'oh shit the angels must have been the serpents!' But then thinking on it, it doesn't make too much sense - the angelic faith was heretical and wasn't supported by any of Lothric's three pillars of rule, so why would statues pandering to the faith be so prevalent in the castle?
Rather, I think the statues are of Fraampt, or another serpent on the side of light, who visited the royalty of Lothric long ago, and told them it was their duty to produce heirs to link the fire - hence why they're so obsessed with it.
I actually didn't notice the statues in the Cathedral of the Deep but in my opinion that could mean one of two things:
>The Cathedral of the Deep was once part of Lothric, and as well as telling the royalty to link the fire, Fraampt told them to set a guard on the Deep (which seems to be related to the Abyss in some way), and statues of him are present in the Cathedral as a result
or
>After the Cathedral of the Deep became corrupted and started worshipping the Deep rather than guarding it, they encountered a serpent like Kaathe there, and created statues of him
>>336898636
>>336899683
>Maybe I was just feeling annoyed upon fighting it and that detracted from the overall experience
>I was probably really annoyed with the boss battle to never really get the good parts of it instead of the bad
This happened to me with Abyss Watchers and Sulyvahn. Abyss Watchers I got impatient and with Sulyvahn I was getting really pissed off with Irithyll in general so I was fed up by the time I got to him, and I ended upsummoning for both of thembut then regretted it shortly after.
Has anyone listened to the DLC OSTs yet?
>>336916032
Is it confirmed as DLC ost? I listened, 2nd theme sounded like twins remix.
>>336895262
>Not liking fuccboi siblings that love each other.
What is wrong with you?
>>336916185
I don't think so, but it's ripped from the games files so I'd hope it'd be. They sound too nice to remain unused.
That 3rd theme though, I wonder what great boss it belongs to.
http://00tn2.blogspot.com/2016/04/dark-souls-3-unused-item-descriptions.html
>Evil Spirit's Soul
The soul of an evil god that possessed the Hero Lord.
Oh boy oh boy, I can't wait for autumn.
>>336893105
It's the only boss worth a shit in the entire game. This game has the blandest bosses but this one was just perfect on all regards. Music, style, lore, artistic design. Everything was perfect. I enjoyed it way more than Ludwig even. Too bad the other bosses are all trash.
>>336901698
>Hear about people complaining Abyss Watchers are hard
>Beat them first try because I spent weeks trying to beat Artorias
They literally have the exact same moves I don't know why people found them hard
>>336909972
Vordt's theme is fucking top notch. That chunky, thick brass really captures how fat and kind of silly looking he is but without becoming comical.
>>336911635
Yeah boy Aldrich and the lead up to him was some fucking PTSD inspiring shit.
>The Silver Knights in Irithyll, the painting of Gwynevere and Smough's hammer making you realise this place is probably built on Anor Londo's ruins
>Reaching the Darkmoon Tomb and thinking 'no fucking way'
>The giant spiral elevator and thinking 'no fucking way'
>ANOR LONDO
>It's frozen and desolate
>Silver Knights still mindlessly performing their duty, possibly controlled by Aldrich
>The dead giant blacksmith
>The beautiful hall now in darkness and ruin
>Enter the boss room
>Woah shit is that Aldrich I thought he was meant to just be a big black blob
>Man I guess that's his body from when he was still a human
>Wait that looks familiar
>Is that Gwyndolin's crown?
>Is this a throw back
>Oh god wait
>His puppet like movements
>His moans of pain
>Finally kill him
>Looking at the lore of all Aldrich's items
>'Aldrich delighted in his victim's screams'
>'Last shudders of life'
>'Slowly devoured the God of the Darkmoon'
>S L O W L Y D E V O U R E D
Gwyndolin had a hard fucking life, man. Raised as a girl; kept hidden; dad dies; city abandoned, left in your dad's tomb with no one for company but a handful of knights, a sadistic executioner, Fraampt and possibly Velka; wait for a thousand fucking years for a plan to save the world to come to fruition - and then either get killed by the fuck you were trying to manipulate, or be forced to face the fact your solution was only temporary, and remain in your abandoned cathedral for thousands of years as the world literally crumbles away around you, the humans you feared build a city beneath you, and their despotic leader eventually captures you and feeds you, alive, to a slime monster.
>>336916807
>Soul of a giant bat sealed deep under the earth
>>336916807
>Crown of the old lord who protects the city of the cold valley. Once dazzling, the corruption of the darkness has changed it greatly.
>A consumed finger of the Dark Sun, Gwyndolin. The finger of the brother the half-dragon girl loved has been consumed, and is now only the slightest bit recognisable. Even so, her love for her brother will not change...
Memezaki has massive vore fetish.
>>336911635
Aldrich is the only boss in the series to make me angry just by viewing him.
>>336900192
He dies really, really fucking easy.
As soon as the cutscene ended I gunned it to the other end, grabbed the storm ruler and put it on in record time.
Siegward was already dead by the time I equipped it.
Fucker can't take a single hit.
>>336896021
I fucked this guy up first try, though his kick did catch me off guard every time. Nameless King beat me to the curb. Took me like 15 trys
>>336917115
Sulyvahn is rad as fuck. But why the fuck did he do it? What was his endgame?
>>336893105
Champ is the best. Only boss that gave me trouble was old demon king.
>>336893105
Why were they so gay?why are there no pictures?
>>336899048
Yeah, the Bridge was a fucking awesome idea, I was so concerned about saving estus for the Princes that I took it extremely slow...only to realize that by taking an elevator and waiting for a patrol you can skip the entire thing.
>>336917817
There are some cute ones. Nothing lewd yet, though.
>>336917456
>conquered Anor Londo
>fed best trap to Aldrich
>jailed Yorshka
>descovered power of the Profaned Flame
>made Gwynevere`s descendant his personal stripper
>turned his knights into mindless beasts
And after all this shit he just become some random hollow with lightsabers. What an anticlimatic ending.
>>336897776
What the hell is the Pus of Man?
>>336896561
kek
>>336895262
>Brothers care for each other
>Must be gay
Bad
>>336896021
>Didn't use a guide at all for my first playthrough, 100% blind
>Haven't fought him or Nameless because how the fuck was I supposed to find that shit
I guess I should start a second playthrough. I want a dual wield weapon you get early, any ideas? Maybe Dancer's?
>>336918071
I just want to know why he did it. Maybe he did what he wanted and got away with it and in time hollowed. But what is it he wanted to do or actually did before hollowing? He is so interesting.
>>336917456
>>336918071
>>336918259
My theory is that Sulyvahn is a human supremacist and/or an agent of the Dark. He believes the Age of Dark will be the Age of Man and wants to see it come about.
>Builds his city on the ruins of the city of the gods (or, if he wasn't Irithyll's founder, takes over rule of such a city)
>Allows Aldrich and his followers to operate in his city - the Deep is quite likely to be some aspect of the Abyss and Aldrich wanted to kill the old gods.
>Goes out of his way to capture one of the old gods and feed them to Aldrich
>Has any child born resembling the old god's brought to his city to be used as slaves
>Forces one of the old god's descendents to be his personal dancer
>Sends Vordt out to stop the Unkindled from getting any further than Lothric
>Sends the Dancer and some other Outrider knights to the castle to kill Emma (who would have probably helped the Unkindled on their quest) and quite possibly the Princes so they couldn't be used as Lords of Cinder
I don't think he was Hollow when you fight him. He was completely sane, and he was attempting to stop you from reaching another Lord of Cinder and linking the flame.
>>336918071
>made Gwynevere`s descendant his personal stripper
I think I may have missed this item description. Is that Rosaria?
>>336898478
If you weren't using a straight sword it wasn't
>>336896816
This
The first phase being difficult because of the odd timing, then getting to the second phase which is just all about rapid fire dodging and positioning for openings. It's fantastic. One of, if not my favorite fight in the series.
>>336893105
*teleports behind you*
>>336918423
Rosaria is Gwynevere.
>>336917817
There are tons of cute pictures on japs/korean sites.
>>336918069
I saw 2 lewd, but it wasn`t enough quality.Somehow, I can`t ship them in lewd way. They are too cute/tragic.
>>336893105
that's some straight kingdom hearts music
Abyss Watchers was best boss
>>336918542
Is there a Korean equivalent of pixiv?
>>336918071
>he became some random hollow
source: your ass
>>336896021
I actually found Nameless really fucking easy
Two Princes fucked my shit up horribly over and over though for whatever reason.
>get to second phase
>immediately get trapped in a wombo combo and die
>>336896021
nameless, did champ 1st try
>>336898138
maybe because dsp sucks ass? reminder that he summoned for nameless because he just didn't want Gundyr 2.0. And trust me, it would have melted him much more than 69 times.
>>336918641
I don`t know, I use twitter for Korean artists.
>>336918403
I dont think you are right about him being sane. Your reasoning is that he sends dancer and vordt to stop you. Well, that doesnt fit with what we know. Outrider knigts are not his personal buddies. They are exiles, its a way to politically destroy his enemies. He gives them this "privilege" of defending the city froum outside effectively exiling them. But to add insult to the injury, he also gives them rings that makes them not only go crazy, but to transform into a mindless beasts in time.
Both dancer and Vordt are already deformed mindless creatures on their way to become beasts (crocodile wolves). We can see their ghost of the past in irrythril leaving together with other outrider knights and they look normal. So the fact that these two are there is not that they were send now to stop you. They were there a long time just being exiled.
>>336918423
Its the dancer.
>>336896816
>finally beat the armor after being one shot by it over and over
>expecting an opportunity to bonefire soon because lots of souls on me
>immediately takes me to this boss
>wait what, give me a chance to rest
>beat it no problem first try on one flask
boss was easy as piss
>>336901873
At second playtrought I'v just charged at this fucker barehanded and agro him while Sigbro finished him with his Storm Ruler. Firs time I wanted to grab the sword and Sig died in two hits. Fuck that. Never again.
why was he crawling around on his knees though
>>336897776
you have anything to back that up? It seems you're reaching Vaati tier of retarded speculation.
The seem more chaos to me than dark.
>>336893105
This boss was harder than Pontiff and Nameless King for me, the second form just seemed to tilt me.
>>336918963
>We can see their ghost of the past in irrythril leaving together with other outrider knights and they look normal
Fuck so that's who they were. I knew they were some nobility of Irithyll but never made the connection
>>336918252
I did the whole game with the sellsword twinblades you get from the mercenary class. I really liked it, they're fast enough that you can attack between combos while rolling
>>336919095
He was ready to suck Lothric's dick when you barged in, and didn't want to get up
>>336919095
He's crippled.
From his chest piece:
>Lorian, raised as a knight, is said to have been left mute and crippled by his younger brother's curse. It is also said that Lorian, in fact, wished it so.
>>336896750
Warrior, otherwise you've wasted points in attunement, int, and faith
>>336919441
I was thinking about using them on my first playthrough but after testing them I found the L1 dual attack actually did less damage than the normal R1, so what was the point? Does it get better?
I might also go with a heavy 2 handed weapon, but I heard those are shit now. I just don't like using a shield so either is fine.
>>336918963
The thing is though Sulyvahn would have had to have gone Hollow incredibly quickly but it seems like a rather gradual process. He captured Gwyndolin and fed him to Aldrich, and Aldrich must have only recently arrived because you only just missed him when you got to the Cathedral of the Deep (Anri and Horace also thought he was there, and presumably so does Eygon seeing as he assumes that's where you're going). Plus, nothing ever actually says that Sulyvahn is an Undead.
Yes, Outrider Knights are mindless but that doesn't mean Sulyvahn doesn't use them for specific purposes. Even if Sulyvahn didn't say to Vordt and the Dancer 'yeah you need to stop this one guy, ' it doesn't mean he didn't send them and other knights to Lothric city for the purpose of having them turn into beasts in time to fuck with you (of course, my argument relies on the assumption that Outrider Knights beast out faster than Undead turn Hollow).
>>336919361
Pre-beast Dancer's hips tho
>>336919361
They are the dog knights with irythrill weaponry, walking straight implying its their selves from the past. There is also one that had dancer armor. So presuming dancer armor is just the outrider female armor. I think the number of ghosts actually match the number of outrider knights you fight + dancer. I dont know about Vordt though.
>>336893105
Second place after the champ
>>336900482
I fucking love any boss that really gets in your face and makes it a high speed exchange. That's probably why the BB hunter bosses + orphan are up there in my favorites, with Soul of Cinder and the Champ as recent additions
>>336919868
I just dont buy it. I dont think anyone actually give a shit about you though. Dancer is weird though. She comes after pontiff is dead and kills Emma. Or she shows up if you kill Emma. What is her deal?
I think Iudex Gundyr is probably the hardest opening boss in all of Soulsborne.
The Vanguard and the Asylum Demon are both very slow and easily avoided by rolling. The Vanguard's difficulty really comes from his very high damage output as he's pretty much intended to kill you. The Asylum Demon gives you a free drop attack.
Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne don't really have tutorial bosses. By the time you've reached the Last Giant and the Cleric Beast you've already played through whole levels and are probably quite used to the workings of the game.
Iudex, however, comes after a handful of hollows and a single giant crystal lizard. He's a massive increase in difficulty, he's fast and aggressive, and his sudden mode change half way through the fight can really put you off guard and also forces you to battle the camera a bit.
>>336919819
The L1 does more damage than the r1 but only by a fourth, thing is both have to hit, which doesn't always happen since one has a longer range than the other when sweeping left to right or vice versa. Also I believe the L1 is faster than the r1
>>336900394
>he's hardier and more challenging than any other caster boss.
>i can't dodge the arrows the post
Every fucking time , this guy is easy as fuck
>>336920484
Pontiff is guarding the way to the Twins with her -- anyone who tries to get to Lothric and Lorian gets fucked up by the Dancer (who was apparently a respected enough fighter to warrant getting replicas of the Pontiff's own weapons).
Pontiff loves the Dark, and is trying to stop you from accessing the Lords. To this end, he litters the paths to the Lords with guards. Vordt, the nameless outrider knight in front of the Road of Sacrifies, and the Dancer.
>>336920386
Didnt play BB but what is with you people saying orphan is a good boss? He is little humanoid with slow hammer like shit who does weird AoE lighting thunder attack in second stage. He looks incredibly easy to dodge. Its just that his HP is so damn high it might be difficult to not make a mistake.
>>336920386
But soul of cinder is very passive, it constantly backs off and lets you heal without pursuing.
>>336910672
Requesting the Ocellote frog picture
>>336893105
Abyss Watchers, hands down.
>>336920748
You really should play the game before commenting on a boss.
>>336920484
I'd actually forgotten about the Dancer showing up after you yourself kill Emma. Following on from my other posts, I'd still say she's there to stop you from progressing - even if you kill Emma yourself, taking the basin means you'd be able to get into Lothric Castle, so she tries to stop you. Of course, the flaw with my theory is that it assumes a lot of control on the part of the Dancer and Vordt, but they're mindless so I can't really account for that.
Regardless though, even if you don't agree with me about the Dancer and Vordt being sent to stop you, I think I still put forward a pretty good case for Sulyvahn having some sort of grudge against the old gods - and again, there's not really anything to suggest he's Hollow when you fight him.
>he thought that Aldrich was hard
>>336920748
>didn't play game
>dude it's easy lmao
>>336896021
Killd the champ on my second try once i took stock of his moveset and dodged.
nameless though whupped me good for several tries. then one day i just went in fresh and got him first try.
>>336901873
I, SEIGWARD OF CATARINA
>>336920720
Anon, thats your opinion that is supported with no evidence. I am all for theorymaking, but atleast have some basic stone to build on.
The outrider knights are not in your way, they dont care about you. They just chill being real fucking mindless.did you see what I did there?. Only one of 3 is actually in your way and he stops aggroing when you step outside into sunlight.
Vordt was there for a long time as implied that Emma know of him and even have a nickname for him ready.
And what is dancers motive? If it was to stop you from climbing the ladder, she wouldnt bother to kill Emma. If it was to kill Emma, she wouldnt appear if you kill her yourself.
>>336921042
Of course you are right. But never ever. I asked legitimate question though. Care to answer?
>>336921230
I am not saying its easy. Its not because he is damage sponge. But that doesnt make him a good boss battle. Thats why I asked why do people say he is a good boss.
>>336921052
Vordt was just chilling there for a long time. Dancer is just weird. Suly hated the gods, thats safe to say and you are right that nothing says he is hollow, he sure as fuck looks hollow with his ragged clothes.
>>336896021
Nameless.
I made a SL 59 Ornstein and kept my weapons to no more than +5 for matchmaking purposes.
I wish the first phase didn't exist so I could have properly learned his delayed moveset in the second phase. Also fuck the camera in the first phase
>>336921369
*dies*
>>336920748
>didn't play it
>talks shit
The Orphan is a fucking wildman with a yoyo mace. He will fuck you right up in a blink
>>336900808
didnt early leaked shots actually have anor londo giants? im kind of sad there werent any of those
>>336893105
I couldnt help but feel that if it wasnt a dark souls game, which pretty much mandates a final boss that has something to do with humanity or the first flame, 2prince could easily have been the final boss in its own right, like, if it was a king's field game and the whole goal was to just reach prince lothric and kill him
>>336901065
>that blind warrior in Shrine of Storms
Shrine of Storms had the best gimmick fights, Storm King was cool too
why does everyone whine that DaS2 had too many human bosses but when asked to name top 5 bosses from all soulsborne games they will all be humans?
>>336919819
>I found the L1 dual attack actually did less damage than the normal R1
That seems to be the case with most dual wielding weapons in this game, at least the ones that I've tried. I don't see the point of them in DaS3, in 2 there was a huge power boost, but in 3 it seems to just be a weaker, but more stylish alternative to your R1
>>336921873
Too much of a good thing, obviously.
>>336893105
Ugh, you faggots have broken me.
Even though I'm out of a job and shouldn't be wasting money till I get one, I'm fucking buying it.
>inb4 pirate it
I only do that for undeserving games
>>336921052
Lothric/Irithyll dynamics seems strange.
Lothric roayal family are flame and dragon worshippers (except for twins) and, probably, descendants of old gods.
But Pontiff and his church have obsession with Abyss/Dark/Deep.
I`ve expected strained relations between Lothric and Irithyll, but there is nothing. And possible civil war was between angel worshippers and others.
>>336921592
we know that Pontiff was secretly a darkfag because his greatsword of judgement states that his true nature is dark as fuck, and that the skill for it casts Dark Magic (I dunno why it actually does magic damage despite this). We also know that he was a fan of the Profaned Flame, which is a fire that's been corrupted by the Dark, since it allows for hollow and dark infusions. Liking the Profaned Flame and liking the Dark are fairly synonymous. And don't forget him growing wings in the 2nd phase of his fight, which echoes the Pilgrim Butterflies (which is an Abyss-fueled transformation), only on a much smaller scale.
We also know that he had some serious fucking beef with the Royal Family, on account of his treatment of Gwyndolin, Yorshka, and the Dancer. Which is further hinting of his dark alignment, since darkfags hold grudges against the Gods.
We also know that Sulyvahn actively dispatched his outrider knights to locations outside of the kingdom. The outrider knights don't need motives, they're insane, the Pontiff just sends them to locations that he wants fucked up, or to spots he wants guarded, and they fuck up everyone who walks past. It just so happens that all of these spots are in chokepoints that Unkindled must pass to access the Lords, which is a-ok placement if you want to stop people from linking the flame.
>>336921873
It's not "human" bosses, it's "dudes in armor". Get your memes right.
And if you can't tell the difference between a boss like Nameless King and the Dragonriders, I don't know what to tell you.
>>336920520
The hardest enemies in 3 is the enemies that snag your camera.
All the Iudex snake enemies.
The Gaping wolves.
All the Dragons, which is a surprise, because fighting them was really fun in 2.
All the really large bosses, like Yhorm.
>>336922284
Rest in piece big guy
>>336921873
Because they're enormous hypocrites that are incapable of telling legitimate criticism and pointless nitpicking apart.
>>336922195
Dancer is obviously acting conscious and on some kind of agenda. She isnt there to fuck shit up. Vortd on the other hand is there to kill anyone who aproaches his place, guarding it. The rest of outrider knights are probably just mindless creatures who just randomly walked somewhere.
>>336922518
>Yhorm
>hard
>>336921592
Are we sure Suly's clothes aren't artistically slashed?
Na fair enough though I hadn't actually noticed that he looked a little tatty while fighting him. He's not dressed in rags though, he still looks pretty regal, so I'd dare say From just wanted to make him look kind of dramatic. I think if Sulyvahn is insane (and again I don't really see much to support it), he's been affected by whatever weird spiritual bullshit has affected the Pontiff Knights rather than the Undead curse.
It's true that Vordt might have just been chilling there for a while. Emma calls him 'the foul watchdog of the Boreal Valley.' To me, 'watchdog' implies that he was there for a specific purpose, and 'of the Boreal Valley' means he's trying to stop people from getting to it. Of course, he could just be a 'watchdog' because he's decided he likes that one room he's squatting in and mindlessly chases people off and 'of the Boreal Valley' is just because he's from there rather than specifically stopping people from gettign there.
>>336922701
The fact that the Dancer and the other two Outrider Knights are actually in Lothric Castle just really screams something intentional to me, and Emma's last words really make me think they were there to kill the princes. Like, fair enough some random Outrider Knight could have decided to make a nest in an abandoned old room beneath a random tower at the end of an underused road, but I really doubt the two in Lothric Castle just sort of, happened to end up there.
And yeah, taking >>336922195 's points, I still feel pretty compelled to stand by my idea of all the Boreal Valley stuff being the result of Suly going out of his way to fuck the Unkindled over.
>>336922123
It's possible Lothric hasn't been there for long. A few item descriptions mysteriously mention the high wall 'appearing.' Even if it has though, what we know about Irithyll seems to suggest they're pretty reclusive and were content in their valley, rather than wanting war.
>>336922123
There is no NPC that you rescue, but kills others?
Well, yet.
Beyond that its a full bingo.
I love those charts.
>>336922701
>The black eyes of the Pontiff eventually transformed the Dancer into a beastly creature, her gauntlets fusing with her own hide.
dunno, she sounds pretty fucked-up to me
>>336922723
Your camera snags in yhorm.
Thats the hardest part of the fight.
He doesn't chain attacks, rest between them for long periods of time, has very telegraphed moves.
Seriously, killing him with a Cartha Roughed bandit knife at +0 is very doable.
The fact he dies to like 6-7 Stormruler hits makes him even easier.
>>336922123
>>336922873
DS3 also managed to stear mostly clear of
>early game boss becomes a regular mob later.
You fight the other crystal sage but that's it.
Also I can't immediately think of anything for
>TRAGIC NON-OPTIONAL BOSS
And dogs are really easy in Dark 3.
>>336923027
For me the hardest part was the framerate shitting itself whenever I attacked him with the storm ruler while he was on fire.
Actually framerate was pretty shit for plenty of things in the game, especially lothric castle.
So, is all of the black goop that covers the floor of Aldrich's room ALSO a part of Aldrich? It says that he softened into sludge, after all
>>336922872
>they're pretty reclusive and were content in their valley, rather than wanting war
Don`t forget that Lothric`s statue wields Pontiff Profaned Sword. Which especially strange, because Lothric has his own sword, blessed by Emma.
>Pontiffinstead of Aldiawas Lothric`s mentor, who told him do not link the fire
>>336923254
>TRAGIC NON-OPTIONAL BOSS
Oceiros?
>>336923254
>tragic non-optional boss in DaS3
Abyss Watchers
Yhorm
Lothric and Lorian
>>336923352
>Oceiros
>non-optional
also, "not muh ocelotte" doesn't feel very tragic, since I have no idea who the fuck Ocelotte is
>>336923254
All the Iodex snake enemies. All of them.
>>336896021
This nigga's overhyped, got him on my first try.
Nameless King, took me like 30, nigga killed me in two hits.
>>336893105
When the mute bro comes out of the hole he was hiding from it really creeped me down the spine.
Is anyone willing to trade me a twin princes soul? I want to make both weapons but don't want to worry about having to do it all over again.
>>336923256
>Fight Prince Lothric
>Game freezes on load for all the sound clips
>>336922098
I'm in the same situation and ended up buying it too. It's worth it because you can dump hundred of hours on it.
>>336893105
low tier style by BB standards tbqh
>>336923474
Right.
>>336922939
Yeah, but she is making conscious decision as to when to appear. She doesnt have one easy trigger. Nor does she one easy what to do after the trigger.
>>336922872
>but I really doubt the two in Lothric Castle just sort of, happened to end up there.
One is in the underground just chilling and second one is hidden with illusion wall in archives. Cant see them as guardians. Or anyone with any meaning
>to fuck the Unkindled over.
Wait. Is unkindled Ash the main character alone or actually every unkindled ember guy? Its important to distinguish this. Are you saying that you are a chosen one or are you just one of a many who actually succeeded?
>he's been affected by whatever weird spiritual bullshit has affected the Pontiff Knights rather than the Undead curse
No way. The spiritual shit yo uare talking about are the pontiff eye rings. Suly is fucking outriders himself.
>Vordt
I agree that he is probably guarding the place. And possibly on Suly's orders. But I think he is guarding it from unkindled ash like many of them, not you specifically.
>>336923352
Oceiros is optional assuming you're not going for the Dark endings. I wouldn't say he's very tragic, either.
>>336923382
Those guys are all kind of tragic, yes, but the bingo criteria is that they were actually good guys and trying to do something good and you didn't really need to kill them etc.etc.
Those guys were all Lords of Cinder. They had a job and they were refusing to do it. They were sad, yes, but it was your job to get the fuckers back to their thrones.
>>336923475
For which category?
Soul of Cinder was hilariously good
>Enter boss arena
>some fucker is resting at the bonfire
>"YO BITCH WHAT RINGS U GOT" instantly charges your ass like an invader
>>336923867
>abandoning your duty as a Lord
>not a good thing
linking the flame is bullshit
>>336893105
It really is
But even the best boss in the game pales in comparison with average DaS and BB bosses,a shame really
>>336895262
I thought the skinny mage one was a she
>>336924086
Thanks for identifying yourself, casul.
>>336923867
Yhorm in fairness seemed to be corrupted by the Abyss rather than just being an asshole. Even had his bud trying to put him out of his misery.
>>336922872
>>336923781
I seem to remember an item saying thay the outrider knights were human at first but turned into beasts. I imagine that's why they're in such weird places.
>>336923867
>They had a job and they were refusing to do
Honestly, 3 out of 4 endings follow Lothric`s goals.
>>336918982
>the armor
So you are bullshitting ?
You can't fight Dragonslayer Armour before Dancer
>>336923781
>One is in the underground just chilling and second one is hidden with illusion wall in archives. Cant see them as guardians. Or anyone with any meaning
But they still could have been sent to the castle with the intention of making things hard for the Unkindled, but then as they turned mindless went and found nice spots to hide in. Do you really think the guys guarding the castle would have been fine with some random ice monster knights just waltzing in?
>Wait. Is unkindled Ash the main character alone or actually every unkindled ember guy? Its important to distinguish this. Are you saying that you are a chosen one or are you just one of a many who actually succeeded?
>I agree that he is probably guarding the place. And possibly on Suly's orders. But I think he is guarding it from unkindled ash like many of them, not you specifically.
Yeah, this. You're not the only Unkindled, after all, you're just the most succesful. I think Suly was out to stop anyone who would try to link the Fire.
>No way. The spiritual shit yo uare talking about are the pontiff eye rings. Suly is fucking outriders himself.
No way are the Pontiff Knights under the effect of the rings. Outrider Knights are feral and rabid. Pontiff Knights are still very elegant and deadly, and have turned into weird skeleton things (their items say they're become spirits), not animals.
>>336924343
Yeah, that's what we're discussing - are the Outrider Knights in places intentionally meant to make your life harder, or did they just wonder there after they went beastmode?
>>336924016
>tfw his health bars fills back up entirely
>>336924493
>he does Gwyn's leaping charge at you
>>336893105
Still the best Souls OST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zihSkliPxxA
>>336893105
Best style and music?
That would be Champ, Brothers, and SoC. Definitely.
>>336924210
What?
>>336924046
fukk outta here kaathe
>>336924260
I don't think this is the case. Nothing about Yhorm seems more Abyssal than the other Lords of Cinder. I mean, fuck, the Abyss Watchers are fighting themselves and Aldrich is actually harmed by Abyss watcher weapons. Yhorm and the Princes seem to have less to do with the Abyss than the others if anything.
Presumably Siegward's promise was to put Yhorm out of his misery if he ever abandoned his duty as a Lord - which is what he did.
>>336924016
>Final boss of the Souls franchise
>He's a spell spamming dex fag
It was fucking spot on.
>>336923552
A-anyone?
>>336924086
When I saw Lothric on japan stream first time, I thought "she" is Witch of Izalith.
>>336924463
I think they were in the general area and upon turning to beasts, got stuck. The first one seems like it might be guarding but (if we assume they've lost the ability to figure out doors and elevators) he also appears to be trapped. In fact, aren't they all stuck in rooms with no way out?
>>336924763
Well, Yhorm's got the same red eyes as the rest of the Abyss-corrupted enemies in the game, and he was handling the Profaned Flame, which is abyss-corrupted fire, so it's not implausible
>>336896021
Nameless, not because of he was hard. But because of his first phase. I really did not like it.
It was cool sure, when you lock on to him and see him flying with his dragon and stuff. But the camera for that fight was abysmal. The only way to control the camera is make sure you are in front of the dragon always. If not, well good luck.
Champ was a great fight not because he was hard, but because he was really just a very cool boss fight. He's really one of my most favorite fights.
>>336924763
>>336924260
The way I interpreted it Yhorm never really cared about the fire or any of that shit, he became a lord of cinder to protect someone and failed, or maybe that happened the other way around, either way, after whoever it was he was trying to protect failed togit gudhe just turned into a depressed, reclusive piece of shit that probably listens to too much Linkin Park
>>336924837
why is Quelana so great?
>>336896021
NeitherOceiros and aldrich
>>336893105
yes
>>336921873
Memorable dudes in armor spread throughout > constant generic dudes in armor
For example Ornstein and Smough > Two fucking dragon riders
will we see Priscilla and Velka in the dlc?
>>336924905
I wondered about that, with the Archer Giant having his face covered and the dead ones you see all wearing helmets they sort of skirt around the whole Giants having a massive hole for a face thing
But if Yhorm just has two normal eyes then why do the other giants keep their faces covered, the archer giant is clearly doing it on purpose
And why are their heads so weirdly proportioned if they just have regular faces
>>336925069
She is hot and cute, but has personality and her own purpose. Meanwhile in DS3 all grills are just tryhard waifu-bait or ugly.
>>336924343
They were human. They were "promoted" to outrider knighthood by pontiff himself. He also gave them the rings which made them go insane and in time become sulyvahns beasts. We are disusing whether or not are they placed on purpose to fuck with player by pontiff or just happen there by chance (we want to know if pontiff is sane).
>>336924463
>Do you really think the guys guarding the castle would have been fine with some random ice monster knights just waltzing in?
Right. There is also the point of sulyvahns beast on the bridge or Irithyll. That beast follows you down if you run from it. It also guards the aldrich covenant guy and when riposted, it begs for mercy and isnt hostile. If those beasts seems to have purpose even fully transformed, there is no reason to assume outrider knights are not acting on purpose. Doesnt mean they are there as response, it seems more fitting they are there as counter measure to the possibility of you ever reaching that far.
>Yeah, this. You're not the only Unkindled, after all, you're just the most succesful. I think Suly was out to stop anyone who would try to link the Fire.
I start to thin kthis is the case. He exiled outriders for other reasons, but he probably gave them orders as to what to guard. Though dancer is the only one who displays a real time reasoning. Is it heres or Sulyvahns, thats the question.
>pontiff knights
I never implied they have the rings. Outrider knights are givent pontiffs rings that makes them insane and then transform into beasts. Its in the rings description that he gives them only to outrider knights.
>>336893105
I felt the opposite desu, the second phase of the fight is literally the same combos just with his brother casting some magic.
I felt like they could of made the second phase a lot more interesting, also the music in general was a let down for me in DaS3 personally compared to DaS1 or DeS tracks.
>>336901065
>GUNDYR BITCHES FAVORITE BOSS IN THE ENTIRE SERIES
Good taste. Someone understands who's the real hero of the DaS series.
>>336925474
where is the evidence that Pontiff ISN'T sane? All of his lore states that he's a very cunning and ambitious politician, right up to the immediate events of the game, where he deals with Aldrich and Gwyndolin. There's no real reason to suppose that that's changed in very, very brief window between Aldrich returning to Irithyll and you arriving
Nameless Kingaka Gwyn's firstbornis easily the best boss. Just awesome all around.
>>336924795
looks like you're fighting it again faget
>>336925402
I suppose that DaS3 is saying that the DaS2 giants ALWAYS had a real face underneath their holes. Yhorm isn't just mimicking the DaS2 hole-face with chainmail, there's definitely flesh/rockskin shit underneath his head armor
whats the best boss in the franchise and why is it Gehrman?
>>336925871
but Ludwig exsts
>>336896021
Champion gave me more issues since he has fewer openings and will just kick you when you get behind him.
Nameless king is pretty easy if you don't use lock on. The camera is the most challenging thing about the fight.
>>336925474
Did I miss the part where it said that outrider knights become Sulyvahns Beasts, I assumed the "turning into a beast" part was more referring to them going berserk and moving on all fours instead of a physical transformation
Easily
>Best music
>Best dialogue (With Ocerios close behind, runs in the family)
>Fun to fight
>Best lore
>Also serves as a culmination for Orbeck
>OCELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTE
>>336925750
It's not that, it's just I don't want to play through everything again just to get the sword I want.
>>336925445
you shut your whore mouth, Yuria of Londor and Anri are great
>>336925871
Soul of Cinder was better than Gehrman
Either Ludwig or Kos is the current best, will hopefully be topped in 3's DLC
>>336896021
Nameless because I had less opportunity to lay hits on him physically with my MLGS
>>336926104better get that new game+ a 'rollin there anon
>>336925689
He hangs out in a church dressed in tattered clothes and just fights you for no reason. For a man with a plan he just doesnt do anything intelligent whole fight. He doesnt speak, he doesnt have plan, he doesnt do anything, just stands there waiting to be killed.
>very, very brief window between Aldrich returning to Irithyll and you arriving
Wait a second. Unkindled was awoken by the bell. The same bell that woke Lord of Cinder to return to their thrones, right? So it cant be a long time between you fighting him and him giving aldrich gwyndolin. Then why are yhorm and abbyswatchers mindless shits when we fight them if they made the decision to not link the fire?
>>336925949
Arent they? I thinks its clearly implied.
>>336925814
But the DaS2 ones didn't have anything but a hole, you get to look straight into it during the Giant Lord and Last Giant fights and in DaS3 the Giant Tree looks exactly like the ones from DaS2 plus the Archer Giant clearly purposefully concealing his face
It seem Yhorm is the only giant to have an actual face
>>336926103
Do you think Oceiros browsed /r9k/?
>>336926104
Do it for the rings, anon.
>>336925474
I think they were originally sent out to fuck with the player (and anyone else) but then turned to beasts and got stuck. Like maybe the one guarding the road of sacrifices was originally patrolling the road itself but after going beast mode got itself trapped in the tower basement. Same with the one in the archives.
If you want to get really speculative, it could be they were shut away by other npcs. Maybe the one originally guarding the archives got put in its room because it was attacking everyone else.
>>336896021
The biggest problem with Nameless King was the camera in his first phase, his 1 on 1 portion was actually easy as fuck
I had no idea how to fight Gundyr though, he took me by complete surprise with how fucking fast he was. I even tried summoning the Sword Master for him, only for Gundyr to completely shit on him and knock him off the cliff
>>336926205
>Kaathe`s bitch and Horace`s cumdump
>>336926307
>he just fights you for no reason
excuse me? he's fighting you to stop you from getting to Aldrich. He's serving as a guard. He doesn't speak because there's nothing to say to a pleb like yourself
>yhorm
is fucked up by the profaned flame
>abyss watchers
too busy with civil war to bother doing their duty as revived lords
>>336923552
What console?
>>336926221
>Kos
Boy you know it's Kosm right?
>>336896021
beat him first try, king took me 3 so king I guess
>>336926314
it's a retcon, anon
>>336923552
boss souls are not tradable
>>336926101
>Also serves as a culmination for Orbeck
>>336896021
>champ
>dies in less than 30 seconds to black fireball even in ng+
>>336925474
>Doesnt mean they are there as response, it seems more fitting they are there as counter measure to the possibility of you ever reaching that far.
Yeah, fair enough. I'm perfectly willing to concede that Vordt, Dancer and other knights had been sent out to places to lie in wait for any Unkindled who might happen to come by in future, rather than being sent out recently to stop you specifically.
>I never implied they have the rings.
So what was
>>he's been affected by whatever weird spiritual bullshit has affected the Pontiff Knights rather than the Undead curse
>No way. The spiritual shit yo uare talking about are the pontiff eye rings. Suly is fucking outriders himself.
All about?
My point is that if Suly is insane - and I don't think he is - the most likely candidate for whatever has made him crazy is the spiritual shit affecting Irithyll (see the Pontiff Knights, possibly the Outrider ghosts and the invisible slaves), rather than his own rings or the Undead curse.
>>336925949
I think it can be inferred through the fact that one of them drops one of Suly's rings.
>>336926307
Almost all souls bosses just wait around to fight you, even if they are sane. Suly is there to stop you from reaching Aldrich.
Abyss Watchers are too busy fighting themselves/half of them are corrupted by the Abyss. The others are still probably (sort of) sane. Yhorm's probably just quiet and depressed rather than insane, but he could be corrupted by Dark (the Profaned Flame).
>>336924905
Very good points, actually.
>>336925402
>>336925814
I think the helmets and masks are a symbol of slavery. First they were used as slaves by the gods, now they're still being used as slaves by humans.
I've seen a screenshot of one of the giant slaves getting incredibly up close to the player character and it looks like they do actually have a face hole behind their helmets. It could be that all giants have a face hole and then a face in the face hole.
>>336926307
I dunno, Suly seems like he was waiting for you specifically
Also, the Fanboy Club started fighting over who was the best waifu as soon as they rose, you walk in on them still doing it and judging by the way they continually get back up they never intended to stop
Big Friendly Fucker just got up, realised that person he loved was dead and never even started to care
And The Smooze was gettin in on dat boipussy son, he don't give no fucks
>>336926503
>memes
>cuckposting
wew laddie
>>336918434
I was using the lothric knight UGS and didn't get hit once. the fight is awful to be honest.
Princes vs. Dancer - who'd win?
>>336926626
kek
>>336896387
you forgot a vorefile blob monster
>>336926813
Dancer`s main ability wouldn`t work on princes for obvious reasons.
>>336896021
beat this guy on my level 68 with a +6 weapon, and only went for NK once I beat the game and went to upgrade my weapon from +6
this guy NEEDS MORE HEALTH and should no be parry-able
the champs fight is so fucking good, my favorite in the series
>>336926735
>i've got a screenshot that the masked giants have face holes
than post it famygdala
>>336926735
>All about?
I misread one word and got confused. I never thought the pontiff knights were affected my anything else than hollowing. Is there more?
>>336926753
The only thing that doesnt make sense is Yhorm. Did he hollow so he walked back "home" without even thinking about linking the fire? Because if he made a decision to not lin kthe fire, then why wouldnt he react to onionbro.
>>336926626
>you will never have PvP chickenfights
You know what would be fucking AMAZING? Some kind of spell that let you cast an illusory wall. The ability to fuck with people during invasions would be endless
>>336927447
All of his lore seems to refer to a person that he had sworn himself to protect but they died and then after they died he just stopped giving a shit about anything
Maybe he linked the fire to try and bring them back, maybe he did that before they died, either way when he got awoken this time he just decided that he didn't care enough anymore, I assume OnionBro knew Yhorm way back when and perhaps even knew or was close to the one Yhorm was sworn to, he reacted upon seeing an old friend
Also I don't think Lord of Cinder CAN go hollow, they are inextricably linked to the fire and it is a part of them
>>336927447
well, Yhorm does react to Onionbro, he has a special getting-up animation during the cutscene
>>336900394
>reading everything about this boss
>all the painful and sadistic things he likes to do to his victims
>Pontiff fed him a god
>"oh shit I wonder who it is"
Fucking hell, did it really have to be Gwyndolin? Fuck, what a waste.
Awesome fights:
Abyss Watchers
Yhorm (mostly for the Demon's Souls reference)
Aldritch
Dancer
Dragonslayer Armor
Oceiros
Actually difficult fights:
Pontiff
Champ
Nameless King if you didn't cheese him with that one fucking lightning shield
A mix of awesome and difficult:
Twin Princes
Soul of Cinder
Forgettable tier:
Every other boss in the game at the moment
>>336928013
Gwyndolin was a prick anyway, he's been super-involved with all of the evil shit that people have done to keep the Flame lit, since Gwyn
>>336927238
Seen, anon, not got. I'm trying to find it again my friend but if I can't then feel free to shit on me.
>>336927447
Thing is though I don't think the Pontiff Knights are hollow, either. Their item descriptions explicitly say they've become 'spirits,' and they look like skeletons rather than beef jerky. I think there's something else going on in Irithyll we don't quite understand.
>Why wouldn't he react to onionbro?
He was a depressed reclusive. He might just not have been feeling up to it.
>>336927891
>Also I don't think Lord of Cinder CAN go hollow, they are inextricably linked to the fire and it is a part of them
This is something I've wondered about a lot. In DS1, Gwyn is quite clearly hollow, and it makes sense - you go hollow when you lose your soul, Gwyn's soul got sucked out to fuel the first flame, so Gwyn hollowed. But then come Dark Souls 3, all the Lords of Cinder seem quite lucid - Aldrich and the twin princes are, at least.
I wonder if the nature of the Undead curse has changed at all over the millenia. Because come Dark Souls 3 and you've got the Lords of Cinder who should be Hollow but seem sane, a special form of the Undead curse in the Unkindled, and Londor is apparently a coherent nation of Hollows.
>>336927209
Talking about levels, I think I'm played the whole game pretty underlevelled because I found the early game really fucking easy. I don't think I levelled at all until around Cathedral of the Deep or Farron Keep. What level was everyone else when they took on Soul of Cinder? I'm at level 59 now and I'm wondering if maybe I should ideally be a little higher for it.
>>336927772
Yeah that would be super fucking fun. Some sort of trick covenant would be good. I think the DS3 covenants are one of the most disappointing things about the game
>>336906725
Did they really make Faith that useless?
And all of that just because DSP killed some DS2 bosses with lightning spears, tss
>>336924763
>he didn't side with Kaathe
>he -- WILLINGLY -- continues to be a pawn of dead Gods
>he -- WILLINGLY -- perpetuates the cruel exploitation of humankind
epic, simply epic
>>336928285
all of the LoC you meet in the game still have their souls (you steal them after you kill them), so they can't be hollow. The bell must have gifted them with replacement souls for the ones that burned, or stole them from the SoC somehow
>>336918108
The shit growing out of Iudex Gundyr and the hollows that transform into dragon blobs.
>>336927962
I dont know if you can call this reaction. It just took him longer to stand up which can as well be explained that the cutscene had to continue until onionbro was done talking.
>>336927891
He have the abyss eyes, thats as good as hollowing. Both drive you mindless insane.
>>336927772
Problem there is that most decent to good Souls players memorize the layout of areas well enough, so they'd notice an unusual or irregular wall added wall.
Maybe not always but I know I would. Now, if you could make a portion of wall between two areas new and breakable, that'd be something.
what the hell is the deal with the hand monsters in the Profaned Capital?
why does Lothric castle have Profaned Capital gargoyles in it?
>>336928540
The hollows you kill give you souls, so they cant be hollows.
>>336896021
>having problems with the first boss in the game
Might aswell just uninstall the game at this point famygdala
>>336928658
>most decent to good souls players memorize the level layout
so you're saying that an illusory wall spell would fool the vast majority of players?
>>336928710
not the soft soul counter you dingus, the unique soul that drops
>>336900482
>overall god tier
Allant
O&S
Artorias
Manus
Kalameet
Nameless King
>Great visual design but so-so overall, more effort could've made them god tier
Vanguard
Penetrator
Garl Vinland
Gaping Dragon
Sif
Four Kings
Nito
Quelaag
Seath
Priscilla
Looking Glass Knight
Demon of Song
Velstadt
Watcher & Defender
Sir Alonne
Lorian & Lothric
Haven't played BB. DS3 feels pretty disappointing in terms of boss designs.
>>336928784
I'm questioning if it really would be that tricky, since most walls aren't immediately dividing two rooms or areas in a way you could do this...
Chameleon allows you to transform into a near identical item to ones strewn about an area, and unusual ones that standout (also based on lighting) can be detected pretty easily in most areas by familiar players.
If creating illusory walls had to rely on making new architecture, albeit even slight additions, it'd stick out a great deal more.
>>336928867
The hollows you kill drops fading souls, so they cant be hollows
>>336893105
fuck this boss. no poise in this game is stupid as fuck
>>336893105
>Or Pontiff?
I hate to be THAT guy, but I literally beat Pontiff on my first try, I'm not sure why people have so much trouble with him.
I didn't even know you could kill his phantom, so I had to dodge both attacks for the whole fight, I just side stepped the first attack, rolled toward pontiff, then slammed R1 once or twice and went back to blocking and waiting for a new opening.
My stats were shit too because I didn't know Poise didn't exist, so I was pumping a shit load of points into VIT to try and be kind of tanky. I think I had like, 30 points in VIT when I fought him and 20 in STR or something with no points at all in DEX
>>336929354
>The fading soul of a corpse.
>Use to gain a smattering of souls.
they stole those from bodies on the ground
>>336929527
Or its their souls
>>336928152
Yeah but he was a cute trap who probably would have sucked your dick if you asked him to
>>336929015
You gotta play BB someway somehow. If it wasn't for being a bit on the skinnier side (less stats, items, abilities, and size overall), it'd be best among these games IMO.
>>336928390
>Gods are in charge
>Mighty nations of brave knights, stalwart clerics, god-like scholarly sorcerers, living legends
>Thousands of years after the gods are no longer in charge
>Everything is completely fucked
perhaps you're the memer here my snakely friend
>>336928152
The only thing Gwyndolin did wrong was manipulating the Chosen Undead. Yes, sending a guy on a carefully set up adventure in order to burn him at the end of it is pretty fucking vile, but ultimately Gwyndolin did everything he did to save the world.
Gwyndolin... had a hard life.
>>336928540
Very good point actually and one that I hadn't considered.
>stole them from the SoC somehow
I think this might be the case, because they were brought back to life and we know giving something its soul back can reverse death (see Anastacia and Roasria). Of course, the question would then be why the fuck would you take stuff back out of the First Flame if only to put it back in in an attempt to keep it burning? Perhaps the Soul of Cinder is so powerful that in order to defeat it and fuel the First Flame a bit more, it first needs to be weakened.
This also brings me onto something else: who the fuck is behind the events of Dark Souls 3? There is quite clearly someone or something working behind the curtain, driving the events of the game: the person responsible for ringing the bell, creating the Unkindled, setting up Firelink shrine, creating generations of Firekeepers, hiring Andre and the Handmaiden, etc. Do you guys think we'll find out who in the DLC? Fraampt, maybe?
>>336896816
The music made the fight. It was so surreal watching her shift about with that playing in the background.
DaS3 had plenty of damn fine bosses. It's a shame the covenants are so fucking plain. between that and refusing to get a bit more creative in some spots, it's otherwise the best of the trilogy of souls games, honestly.
>>336929481
That's a great blog post. Thanks for letting us know, anon! Keep us posted!
>>336929703
>blog post
>three sentences
Phone posters go and stay go.
You faggots think anything more than a twitter post is a fucking novel
>>336929481
Who did you expect to fool? You actually love being THAT guy. You lvoe it so much that you wrote whole paragraph about being that guy completed with your whole build and shit.
>>336929629
>>336929670
Gwyndolin was the original Pontiff of Aldrich's church, Yorshka implies that Sulyvahn usurped the papacy from Gwyndolin after Gwyndolin fell ill. He's been manipulating humans into doing all sorts of evil crap since day 1 of the fading flame, and the latest of his sins is tricking people into sacrificing their own kind of a sadistic sludge monster. The fact that he himself was Aldrich's last victim is a just, ironic punishment.
>>336929810
>he thinks that was about the length and not the content
Retard go and "stay go."
>>336926735
I think the game heavily implies that all of what happened was Sully's fault. Every storyline seems connected to him in some way or the other. He's a sorcerer, like those of the archives, he found the profaned flame of the capital, but he is ALSO the pope of the deep, and as we fight him we discover he's clearly a darkfag too and is behind Aldrich and the Outrider knights. So he really has a finger in every event of the game.
So yeah I guess he's probably the closest thing a Dark Souls game got to a BBEG type that is wholly you know, an asshole.
>>336929813
>whole paragraph about being that guy completed with your whole build and shit.
Its not my fault that Poise literally doesn't exist, I Just kept pumping points into VIT waiting to find an armour set with high enough Poise that it wasn't shit.
The point of my post is that I don't understand why so many people had trouble with Pontiff, he was probably the boss that gave me the least trouble, I died to all of the other bosses at least once I think, even Crystal Sage.
Its a lot like the Capra Demon. I didn't die to him once, and yet for years and years people referred to him as one of the hardest bosses in souls and all say they died to him.
I'm not saying I'm a super pro at the games, Pontiff just seems like a really weird boss for everyone to have had so much trouble with.
I had WAY more trouble with the gay princes or dancer.
The god eater guy was a fucking prick too with his shitty arrow rain, but it wasn't as bad once I realized he doesn't do anything if you stick your head up his arse
>>336928598
Where does it say that those eyes are caused by the Abyss
Random enemies with absolutely no deformations or abyss symptoms have them
>>336929670
>gods are in charge
>humans spend multiple cycles being consumed by religions founded on pain and torturous human sacrifice to link fires
oh yeah, everything's just hunky-dory in the age of fire
>completely fucked
Londor is a perfectly stable civilization
>>336930187
Gundyr and the Pus of Man enemies have them
the corrupted Abyss Watchers have them
the corrupted Deacons (who are explicitly referenced as having fallen to the wiles of Dark Magic) have them
the crucified mutated Undead that the Legion strung up have them
>>336929962
>thread about beating bosses and which boss you thought was hard
>post about not finding a boss to be very hard is a blog post.
Nigga what the fuck
Should I have just said "LOL git gud OP I beat him on 1st try. Ur a scrub!"?
>>336928775
>He didn't fight the champion
>>336928285
I fought SoC at 68 with a +6 weapon
30 of my levels were in faith which gave me nothing considering it only effected how much my great heal healed for and it couldn't be used mid battle due to taking too long
so i might as well have fought him around 45 or so (considering knight does start with some faith already)
>>336930178
You expected me to read all this shit? You really do love being THAT guy.
>>336930392
This ain't twitter m8, you can use more than 100 characters
>>336929670
Like many others I tend to think Kaathe and Frampt have been guiding the events of the game unseen and perhaps even indirectly. Clearly there is a main conflict in the game with the whole Unkindled one struggle with the Lords, and Emma's request and Sullyvahn's dickery. But parallel to that is the obvious conflict of the Angel Knights in Lothric (who are fucking shit up) and Londor Pilgrims and Yuria shenanigans (who we KNOW are working for Kaathe). So yes, they are obviously still in the game, even if the main event wasn't orchestrated by them, they are taking advantage of it for their own purposes for sure.
>>336929673
I think Dark 3 is probably the best of the trilogy. Building on and improving the first game with some of the best elements of Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne, with a good dose of Demons Souls throw backs.
You are, however, incredibly right about the covenants:
>Warriors of Sunlight. Again.
>Way of Blue so you can get an extra person in your gank squad if you get invaded
>Blue Sentinels so you can join a gank squad
>Literally pointless invasion covenant because you don't need to be a member to use any of Rosaria's services or the Red Eye
>Blades of the Darkmoon literally the same as Blue Sentinels
>Watchdogs is just Forest Hunters
>Aldrich Faithful is just Watchdogs in another area
Moundmakers are really the only interesting new faction.
I'm a pretty rabid anti-Dark Souls 2 fag but I'll concede it probably had the best covenants in the franchise.
>>336927238
Also found it, and another screenshot. Played around with them in Photoshop to make them clearer.
Now, this is admittedly flimsy evidence at best, but I think there are noticeable indentations in the giant's faces behind their helms. On the left, if you look behind the central bar of his mask, you can definitely see a darker patch (more orange smear on the photoshopped one), and on the other guy there's a darker patch which is quite harder to see so I lightened it up a bit.
>>336929670
>why would you take souls from the Flame and put them back in again
I dunno, my 100% Vaati-fanfiction guess is that the Bell steals the Lord souls (which are just withered embers at this point), and fluffs them back up as best it can before reviving the Lords.
Although, at that point you might as well toss them directly back into the Flame, where you got them from, and not bother with reviving the Lords at all, so this theory is looking like some bullshit. Too many logical inconsistencies.
It's probably just making a weaker duplicate version of their original souls and shoving them in their dead bodies to wake them up
>>336930648
>that pic
cool beans, it certainly looks legit.
Although their face-holes look MUCH smaller than Yhorm's. Is it an indicator of powerlevel?
>>336930338
>I hate being that kid but I just HAVE to be that kid you guys I steamrolled that boss no probs wow it's like such a shocker that other people didn't I mean sure got him good you guys :)
If you can't add anything to the discussion then say nothing, you daft cunt.
Something I haven't really thought about until now
Why the fuck are Londor Pilgrims travelling to Lothric
They clearly have their own civilization where being a weird undead butterfly fuck is totally acceptable, why go anywhere else
>>336924059
>even the best boss in the game pales in comparison with average DaS and BB bosses
>average DaS bosses
Not sure if you are messing with us or you just have some really fucking weird taste.
Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3 (and even Dark Souls 2 for that matter) have about an equal amount of great bosses and shit bosses.
>>336911635
Am I the only one that thinks Aldrich should have had way more significance/build up?
>>336930648
I honestly have very few gripes with Dark Souls 2, really.
The only things wrong with it are:
>Quantity over quality for bosses
>soul memory
>adaptability
>worst final boss of a souls game
Even the good bosses were kind of forgettable. It's such a minor thing but having a cinematic to introduce a boss can go a long way to helping increase how much of a buildup there is to it.
Take the throne duo for example. Why the FUCK did they not have some more significance to their fight? They literally protect the final part of the game and are meant to be a big fight, and while they are a decent boss, it would have gone a long way to have them have some kind of an intro.
They have a good theme, a well designed fight, but the area/lack of any design effort really makes them seem kind of meh.
>>336930908
>If you can't add anything to the discussion then say nothing, you daft cunt.
Does your post add anything to the thread?
>>336930985
>being an undead butterfly is acceptable
but it isn't? the whole reason they're exiled as pilgrims to Lothric is because they're become corrupted by the Abyss, and the rest of Londor doesn't want them transforming and fucking shit up as monsters back home.
>>336930528
Nor is this blogger.com, friendo.
>>336931065
He actually had the most out of all the bosses in DS3. I think he should've just been given a purpose. All you know is that Aldrich likes eating shit and then he eventually ate a god because Sulyvahn helped him for some reason.
>>336930985
At first the game makes it seem like they had good intentions and shit. What with the cleric class being probably one of them and the fact Yoel is such a bro. But once you know they are darkfags, they are probably there out of religious devotion to see the Flame fade and the age of the dark begin, or if you become the lord of hollows, to attend to your wedding and crowning.
But they are there (knowingly or not) to spread the abyss, turn into Pilgrim Butterflies and fuck shit up.
>>336931231
Alright, let me rephrase my original post so that it doesn't trigger you then.
GIT GUD OP
PONTIF WAS FUCKING EZ
UR A SCRUB
BEAT HIM ON MY 1ST TRY
I was just saying I don't know why so many people struggled with Pontiff in particular when the other bosses were harder. No need to get your panties so rustled,
>>336931153
Yes. In fact it adds something to this entire site by hopefully teaching a dumb little shit not to blogpost in the future.
>>336930661
BUT, if the Bell of Awakening is going around gifting/manufacturing duplicate souls for people, WHERE THE FUCK IS IT GETTING THESE SOULS FROM????
Goddamn this Bell shit is fucking my shit up something fierce. Someone help pls
>>336931417
desu most reasons for anything in the series is pretty much. "muh abyss" or "muh flame", there is a lot of variation of HOW characters screw up, but its always one or the other.
>>336931417
Oh and a cutscene at the beginning would've been great. Sort of like the gaping dragon where you initially only see Gwyndolin's body and go holy fuck but then the whole thing is revealed and then you go HOLY FUCK.
>>336931592
>hopefully teaching a dumb little shit not to blogpost in the future.
Nigga, you are so triggered its absurd.
You've replied to my post like 3-4 different times pretending to be different people over 3 (three) sentences.
I'm not sure what kind of blogs you read, but if you reread my post, I was just saying I don't know why Pontiff is such a common boss that people have trouble with.
I'm not entirely sure how my post isn't on topic when the thread topic is "Hardest boss is something like Nameless King right? Or Pontiff?"
>"Hardest boss is Pontiff right guys?"
>"I dunno, he was the easiest boss for me and I even fucked up my stats"
>>336929943
Aldrich's church was originally good though. It was keeping an eye on a dangerous aspect of the Abyss. Presumably he lost control of it when they started worshipping the Deep, which may have been when Pontiff Sulyvahn took over. Thinking back on it, he did also have the CU kill Nito which was a pretty dick move (though Nito wasn't exactly a good guy, either), but beyond that, what 'evil crap' has he tricked people into doing?
>>336930204
>oh yeah, everything's just hunky-dory in the age of fire
It was before the Curse of the Undead.
>Londor is a perfectly stable civilization
Well I hate to admit it but you've got me there.
>>336930559
Yeah, I'm convinced that the Primordial Serpents (others if not Kaathe and Fraampt) are still heavily involved in events, and I hope they make a return in the DLCtwin headed snake final boss of the DLC when?
>>336930661
I don't think the Lords of Cinder are the lords reincarnated, though. We don't even know if that aspect of the lore is still canon after Dark Souls 2 - it seems like Soul of Cinder still contains Gwyn, after all.
>>336930795
I really couldn't say for certain. Could be an indicator of power/intelligence, yeah. It could be that Yhorm is actually a member of the old god race rather than a legit giant but seeing as the games goes out of the way to say 'he's a giant' and make him look like the DS2 ones I think that's pretty unlikely.
>>336931065
>>Quantity over quality for bosses
Yeah, after DS2, DS3 feels quite small, but it's way higher quality (like, every boss having two distinct phases). It also felt a little smaller to me than DS1 but I imagine if you compared the number of bosses and areas they're about the same size.
And as >>336931417 said, Aldrich does have a lot of build up, it's just not in the form of a cut scene. You spend a very good portion of the early game chasing the fucker down. Plus, I think a cutscene would sort of ruin the horror you feel when you first see him.
Does anyone else dislike how easy bosses can one-shot you after pontiff? I understand getting better but when you first face something, dodge wrong and you end up dead. Misjudge a move and bam, dead. It gets pretty tedious.
>>336931463
>doesn't trigger you then
You know, if I were to judge, and it might be just a wild guess on my part, between you and me, you seem to be more triggered.
>>336932134
Did you forget to level Vigor at least a bit and to equip at least some armor?
>>336896021
I don't think Champ is too hard but he's probably the hardest boss in the game when it comes to healing, he's simply in your face all the time.
>>336932134
i dont get oneshotted by anyone at ng+++++
>>336896561
>there are people who literally believe the baby is not only present but invisible
Jesus fucking christ, this place is full of high schoolers for real
>>336932123
>Aldrich's church was originally good tho. it was keeping an eye on the Abyss
Good, good. Just keep thinking that. Now feed me more orphans! -- your Holy prophet, Aldrich
>>336932123
>I don't think that the LoC are the Lords reincarnated
the LoC linked the flame, and they all got revived by the Bell. The question is by what mechanism the Bell did this
>>336931463
>I was just saying I don't know why so many people struggled with Pontiff in particular when the other bosses were harder
I strongly disagree. I've solo'd everything up to dragon slayer armour and so far nothing has given me more trouble pontiff. I feel it's the first boss that continuously rushes at you and when paired with his shadow thing and the absolute shite camera angles, makes it very difficult. I had trouble deciding when to attack when to dodge
How do you walk down these stairs?
I must have missed something because I've done it on other playthroughs.
>>336932134
For me I liked every boss after Pontiff except for Aldritch and Dancer.
Aldritch's fucking phase two Arrow/Soul Spear combo is complete horseshit and with Dancer you have very little windows to damage her in her second phase
>>336932226
Vigor is 21, that low equip ring and some armor. Get one shotted all the time. I have to perfectly dodge every boss. Makes it interesting I guess
>>336900192
>>336899654
>>336917239
He killed the boss on his own for me, must have taken dozens of hits.
Maybe my game glitched?
>>336932285
But you know, Priscilla turned invisible and you can hear the cries of the baby. So we know there are dragon-related beings that are invisible.
Saying shit like "oh its oceiros madness that you are hearing" is kinda you know fucking stupid and we have nothing like that on the series. No Bloodborne is not a soulsgame.
>>336932287
But they didn't start feeding Aldrich orphans until after the church became corrupt, friend.
>>336932373
Shit sorry I meant, the Lords reincarnated as in the Lord Souls, as in Gwyn and his soul fragments, Nito and the Witch of Izalith, which is what I thought you meant by 'Lord Souls.' Because obviously they have Lords of Cinder Souls, but not *the* Lord Souls.
If you follow.
But yeah, the bell, Firelink Shrine and its inhabitants are all a big mystery.
>>336932761
I've heard people say they think Yorshka is Ocelotte. You think that has any ground to it?
>>336932287
What a nice guy, that Aldrich. Linking the fire and shit, a real saint, that he is, I do say so.
>>336932659
The arrow thing never bothered me expect the first time I encountered it. I thought the arrows spread inwards to keep you from attacking up close and so I died. Afterwords Every time I saw the animation I just kept on runnin'. Nothing to it afterwords. Dancer in actuality was very easy. It's the the long fucking attack animations and small windows as you said that pissed me off. Died a hella lot of times
>>336932957
the church only became corrupt after Aldrich was dead and buried, and after their purpose shifted to watching over his coffin and watching over the Deep.
>>336932517
I just kind of circled around him and the shadow pontif would usually lunge straight ahead and miss, which then lets you know what attack the real pontiff is going to use.
Outside of Nameless King, who is the obvious choice for hardest boss, I had the most trouble with the princes I think.
The teleporting made it fucking annoying trying to figure out where and when it was safe to heal up, and you were constantly dodging that magic spam while trying to make use of your opening
>>336932957
No, Yorshka is not Ocelotte. Yorshka is a girl, Ocelotte is a boy
I'll be absolutely honest.
I finished the game two times now
On both characters I killed Champion on the second try
Never died to Oceiros, Pontiff - 3rd try on first character, first try on the second
And I still can't fucking kill Greatwood. It's the only boss I summoned for.
>>336932091
Pretending to be someone different? Where did I do that, child?
Blogposts are when people post completely unwarranted worthless details from their own lives, you moron. You know, like you did. If you just asked "why do people consider xyz hard" you might get an answer because someone could take pity on you for being too fucking stupid to figure it out. But you weren't really interested in that, but in HEY GUYS I HATE TO BE THAT GUY BUT I TOTALLY BEAT HIM SO EASILY WOW I HATE TO BE THAT GUY I'M A FEMALE BY THE WAY AND THIS IS HOW I BUILT MY CHARACTER HA HA. You need to swiftly fuck yourself with something sharp before considering to make posts like that.
>>336933060
If it says that somewhere I missed it. Got a source?
>>336933161
That's right anon. A girl raised and protected by another 'girl,' if you get what I'm saying. :^)
>>336932957
I don't think Yorshka is Ocelotte, but there is obvious a certain thematic connection, probably to establish that yeah, furry tailed, half-dragons are a thing in the setting and that Priscilla wasn't a one time thing.
I mean I could be wrong, it's just that Yorshka is "far away" lorewise from Oceiros and the Lothric royal family. BUT if you are of the theory that the first scholar that corrupted Prince Lothric WAS Sulyvahn, then it becomes more probable, since he might have also kidnapped Ocelotte.
However this all goes to shit when you rememver Ocelotte is a male. Unless you are also in the club of Yorshka as a crossdresser, which given Gwyndolin tendencies might not be that far off.
>>336923552
Got a titanite slab?
>>336933350
Aldrich became a Lord of Cinder by devouring men, and may or may not have been forced to Link the Flame by his church. The church was clearly still dedicated to "sealing away the horrors of the Deep" at that point. Aldrich's sacrifices were taken to the Cathedral of the Deep (see: Hawkwood), which means that all of the Church's infrastructure was set up BEFORE they were corrupted.
From the Deacon set, we know that the Church was corrupted to worship the horrors of the Deep, but we can safely say that it occurred after Aldrich linked the fire, since they didn't try and stop him from doing so.
>>336933365
I think there's strong arguments both for and against it so I don't really lean either way. Though, what I am curious about is
>the first scholar that corrupted Prince Lothric
I've seen stuff about Lothric's mentor mentioned a few times. What's the source on this lore? I don't recall his mentor or corruptor ever being mentioned. I thought he just didn't really feel like being burned alive because he was a kid and all he wanted to do was chill with his brother.
>>336933207
Are you autistic?
>>336932134
If you raise vigor enough they can never actually 1 shot you.
I'm on NG++ Now and not a single thing has given me significant trouble compared to their original counterparts.
>>336933246
>completely unwarranted worthless details from their own lives
Okay, but what from my post is unwarranted in this thread?
Also god damn, you sure are a cunt aren't you
I've been lurking 4chan for 10 years, I know how this place works.
Are you sure you just don't have the real kind of autism, not the 4chan kind?
Because you are literally sperging out over nothing.
And its pretty obvious that you're both of these posts >>336929703
>>336929813
This is a thread about which dark souls bosses are hardest
I posted my experience with the one OP thinks is the hardest.
And you're sperging out about it.
By "I hate to be that guy" I just meant I didn't want to just drop into a thread and say "haha, that boss was ez, beat him on my first try"
But that statement was relavant to the point I was making, that I don't understand why such a large number of people had trouble with Pontiff since he is the boss I had the least amount of trouble with.
Go take your meds or something dude, 4chan is a place for discussion, not 8 word long shitposts.
>>336933365
the game never misgenders Gwyndolin in item descriptions, it's always very clear about saying "HEY THIS GUY IS A ACTUALLY A DUDE, HE'S JUST DRESSING LIKE A GIRL." If there was a similar situation happening with Yorshka, we would expect similar descriptions, but we don't get them.
>>336933974
So you know how this place works but just pretend to be someone fresh from reddit or some other hugbox anyway because you enjoy being a fuckwad? Good going, son. And no, those aren't both my posts. You didn't make a single fucking point, that would entail explaining why you think it's mechanically one of the easiest bosses. You simply blogged.
>>336933974
Didnt read, just saw a (you) for me that said I samefagged. I am the guy that didnt read the post before too.
>people have trouble with vordt
>people have trouble with curse-rotted greatwood
>people have trouble with champion gundyr
can someone explain this
>>336933876
Soul Stream sorcery. Some people even go as far as to link it with Aldia though.
>>336932134
You are suppose to have 30-40 vigor by the end of the game.
Unlike Dark Souls 1, where they added scaling to bosses, to cap their strongest attacks to your max health.
>>336934459
No, I just don't pretend like I have to follow some kind of "4chan code of ethics" because this is just a fucking image board for discussing your hobbies.
You're so fucking worried about fitting in and acting like you're supposed to that you sound much more like someone from reddit than anyone else in this thread.
The reason why 4chan is going to shit is because faggots like you that just got here 3-4 years ago at most think you are experts on the website because you've read lots of Ecyclopedia Dramatica articles and seen lots of screencaps on r/4chan.
Quit trying to police how people talk just because it doesn't suit your autistic image of how everyone on /v/ is supposed to act.
4chan is meant to be a place for discourse, not fucking autistic hugboxing and echo chambers like you want.
You literally want this place to just be an edgier reddit. Everyone has to act the same way and have the same opinion or else its not "4chan".
>>336898943
>you just parried him twice, ran around until the third one spawned and killed him before it died.
No I didn't. Just because you played like a bitch and refused to fight 2 on 1 doesn't mean everyone did.
>>336935059
Didnt read, but why do you keep on writing huge posts about yourself? What is wrong with you? Nobody cares. We just laugh at you behaving like a attentionwhore faggot.
>>336935212
>huge posts about yourself?
Because it takes 5 seconds to write a reply?
How long do you think it takes to type out a post like that?
>>336935059
>please stop telling fucking morons to be fucking morons :(
>if you tell me to stop writing "chronicles of my worthless life: anonymous edition" that is a totally reddit thing and enforces everyone to share the same opinion somehow
>I'm a strong independent woman and I write about my life whenever I want
How did you end up being this painfully retarded?
>>336933861
You put forward a very good argument. I'm still not entirely convinced that there is definite proof that Aldrich's corruption doesn't preceed the corruption of the cathedral as a whole. Assuming that, as worshippers of the Deep (and therefore some aspect of the Dark), they would be opposed to the linking of the fire is fair enough, but we don't know if they know they're worshipping the Deep - and therefore might not be against linking the fire. Of course, Aldrich being fed people as part of a scheme by Gwyndolin to produce another linker of fire is actually a sound idea and not one I'd considered.
Also does Hawkwood/anything related to him ever mention he was intended to be one of Aldrich's meals? I know Horace was but I can't recall Hawkwood ever saying 'yeah that was going to happen to me,' just him telling you about it.
>>336934813
Oh fuck, I hadn't read the spell's description before. In my opinion that does seem to echo Aldrich pretty heavily.
>>336935350
You didnt answer the question. Its ironic since this is the first reply that wasnt paragraph of shit. Well you finally fit in, stay that way I guess.
>>336935398
damn son, you sure are upset that I didn't follow your strict and totally real rules for posting on /v/
>>336935467
the Church was originally formed to STOP the Age of the Deep, Aldrich came up with his plan because he foresaw that the fading flame would lead to an Age of the Deep Sea, and he wanted to stop it. Their original attitude was akin to "fear the Old Blood," only "fear the Deep." They wanted nothing to do with it until their faith was corrupted.
>>336935773
I didn't answer the question because I haven't actually written any posts about myself at all. My posts just aren't following some anon's strict autism guidelines for /v/ and he's fucking livid.
Maybe if he keeps throwing buzzwords at me I'll suddenly stop and agree with him and become just like him so that 4chan stays the way he wants it to be
>>336896816
that fat ass won me over
>>336898278
Soul of cinder is essentially all previous lords slapped together and the flames last line of defense. The flame does not want to be linked. The continuation of the age of fire is an abomination and an affront to the natural cycle. Soul of cinder is literally the first flame telling you to fuck off
>>336935817
What IS the age of the Deep Sea?
what IS the deep?
>>336935959
Once again literally no added value in your reply. I dont know more than before reading it. Why? Are you unable to convey information unless its paragraph of text? Or do those paragraphs not contain information either?
>>336935467
Aldrich got this visions of the "age of the deep" or deep sea, after linking the fire, while sleeping on his coffin. We the players, know that the age of the deep is just a fancy age of the Dark. But Aldrich and his followers don't. They really do believe that the Deep is a holy place, they meditate on it, and prepare for its coming with religious fervor, feeding people to Aldrich (and eventually a god) so he can be "strong enough" to survive the transition.
But that probably just means he is confused about the nature of the abyss, and he pretty much transformed into a goopy goober abyss creature just like every single dark-aligned character in these games, it just so happened that him being a previous lord, and a saint of the way of white at that, he had a lot more pull to corrupt others.
>>336936083
deep == darkness
Abyss == not your average, everyday ordinary darkness
>>336936030
>the flame does not want to be linked which is why it fights you
but what if you're going for the End of Fire ending?
>>336935802
Not all that much, but make sure you avoid completely worthless blogging about yourself in the future, or stop posting altogether, and you won't upset me or others by being a dumb shit. Lurk a bit before posting if you're very new, that could help.
>>336936198
So does the age of the deep sea have anything to do with water, or is 'sea' just a metaphor for darkness itself?
>>336936030
Oooor it's meant to be one final challenge to prove you have what it takes to be a Lord of Cinder.
>>336936083
Abyss, its always the Abyss. Some people like to go all conspiracy theorists and link it with Bloodborne or the moon and stuff.
But really, it's just the Abyss-reloaded with new PR and a better branding department.
>>336936341
just a metaphor
>>336936351
the Dark is not the Abyss.
>>336936030
Soul of cinder fights as if it was the Chosen undead on steroids
Even has that dark grain ring flip
>>336936341
It's just a flowery metaphor, don't take it literally, like most folks do.
>>336936348
Based on what? Set up by who? By the time you reach the flame you've murdered the entire world and have a huge giant throbbing soul of power. No, the flame assumes you are there at the kiln to relight it. After all if you wanted to snuff it out all you ever would have to is simply do nothing and let it fade. It's no test, the flame is protecting itself from you. It wants to die.
>>336936523
No, but I do think the Deep IS the Abyss. Since they both got beasts living on it and clearly corrupt people and give them red-eyes and weird mutations and stuff.
>>336936335
Nice blog post.
Maybe try telling tumblr what upsets you next time you feel upset about things. They're all about telling people how to act so that they never get triggered.
>>336936746
No, you've got it backwards. The deep was originally calm and peaceful, and evil shit MOVED IN. The evil beasts weren't their originally, and the red eyes are in the post-corruption Church, wherein all of the staff got bamboozled into worshiping their own humanity.
>>336936162
>lol ur post is dumb
>I never read any of them, but they're dumb because they're long
Nigga pls, I'm writing each of my posts while I respawn in overwatch.
It takes literally 5-10 seconds to write a paragraph if you already know what you're going to write, and it shouldn't take you much longer than 5-10 seconds to read it unless you have a learning disability of some sort.
>>336936713
>who set up the SoC
the SoC wasn't set up by anybody, it's like a superpowered version of a Firekeeper. Firekeepers are the physical manifestations of the bonfires that they tend, and are a draw to all of the souls that are offered to them. The SoC is a manifestation of all the souls of people who ever linked the fire, making it essentially a manifestation of the First Flame itself, since the First Flame is nothing but a pile of LoC souls at this point. Normal bonfires get qtpie girls, the First Flame itself gets a huge badass.
>>336935817
Nothing ever says Aldrich wanted to stop the Age of the Deep Sea though. His soul just says he saw visions of it, and that somehow led to him deciding he had to devour the gods - presumably this would somehow enable the coming of the Deep, seeing as the church is corrupted by the time of the game.
We don't know when the corruption of their faith occurred. It cannot be pin pointed.
>>336936083
>>336936351
>>336936523
>>336936746
I'm not entirely convinced The Deep is The Abyss but it is definitely some embodiment of Dark, regardless. It was once 'peaceful' but then became corrupted. The stuff about soul dregs and the chains of the world implies some aspect of Dark and how souls work in the series we haven't seen before.
>>336936713
I think the Soul of Cinder is just mindlessly aggressive. Look at Gwyn in the first game, for example. You're (probably) there to link the first flame just like he is, but he doesn't know that. He's mindless and attacks you because of it.
>>336937064
>I respawn in overwatch.
>neo-blizzard fan
Mystery solved.
I think he would have also been a hell of a lot more fun if he was like Monsoon from MGR with his teleports
Rather than being occasional and potentially breaking of the lock on, he could have done maybe 6 in quick succession but the camera tracked each one perfectly so it was 6 quick sudden dodges that you could see coming before giving the player an attack window
Still think he was good fun
>>336937171
Aldrich became a Lord by devouring men, and linked the flame with that power.
If Aldrich had become corrupted, and was rooting for the Deep, than he didn't do so willingly -- which means that his church was yet uncorrupted, and was still trying to halt it.
If Aldrich hadn't become corrupted, than the Church hadn't either, since he was the uncontested leader of the Church.
Either way, the Church wasn't corrupted when Aldrich linked the fire.
None of this changes the fact that the Church was formed to feed Aldrich sacrifices, for one end, or the other.
>>336936895
Makes sense actually. The Deep is then the age of Dark as idealized, tranquil and cozy. That it ended up as abyss 2.0 goes well with the theme of decay and how good things end up shit.
>>336936850
I certainly would if I went to your precious tumblr at all and a dumb fuck was making pointless unsightly shitposts in threads I visit. And it's amazing you still don't understand what a blogpost is even after spoonfeeding. Seems you're more retarded than I initially thought.
>>336937480
>the Age of Dark is tranquil and cozy
I mean sure, if you like the idea of a world completely devoid of all light, warmth, and life, populated solely by backstabbing, murderous hollows who are slowly losing their minds
>>336937289
Nah, if the game wasn't free right now I wouldn't have bothered. Normally I don't even touch Activision games, but I can't see any reason not to try it out with my buddies for the weekend.
Its not bad but TF2 is better.
>>336937082
>player floats up into the air.
kek
>>336937586
I understand what a blogpost is, I just don't understand why you think my original post was one, or why you're so absolutely triggered by it.
Just because you keep shouting things doesn't make it true. You can tell me to do things all you want, and tell me to die, or say that I'm retarded or whatever. But I'm not about to take advice from someone that spergs out over something as simple as a post on 4chan.
You don't even know what else I'm posting in this thread.
I'm certainly doing more than replying to you.
>>336937635
Exactly, the idea of a world of peace and quiet of humanity by humanity sounds good in paper to some. But we know how it just means hollows and monsters and shit.
Link that fire, yo.
Who else has noticed the link between this boss fight and Gower's ring of protection in DS2? The way the faggot hangs on the back of his brother is exactly the position held by the ghostly shape that protects you from backstab when equipping Gower Ring.
That gave me goosebumps when I saw it.
>>336937972
people hollow with or without the Abyss, it's just a product of the fading flame
>>336937471
See this is reasonable but it goes on the assumption that the Church was against linking the flame after they were corrupted. It makes sense because the Deep is the Dark, but in all likelihood the Cathedral doesn't actually know that, so they might not see anything wrong with linking the flame.
>>336938184
they all use Dark Magic after their corruption, if they turned against the Deep/Dark and became pro-fire after the faith was corrupted, this wouldn't be the case
Fuck yeah, talking with all you guys hyped me up and I was able to beat Soul of Cinder!
Okay, so now I've got the bonfire that links the flame infront of me. But, I still haven't beaten the Nameless King. If I leave now, can I still go fight him and finish up other stuff, or will leaving this area count as letting the fire go out?
>>336937064
>>336935350
>why do you post lots of stupid shit
>it doesn't take long to write
>yes but why do you post lots of stupid shit
>nigga it doesn't take long to write
My wife went to the grocery store and brought home some oranges today. Pretty cool.
I ate them on my first try.
I like them more than apples to be honest.
Don't know how people can like apples more.
I think I'm gonna watch TV later today.
I didn't watch TV yesterday though.
>>336938421
>he thinks thats a long post
Get off your phone nigga, posts don't look as long when you aren't looking at a 4 inch screen.
Also, my original post was completely on topic, and the rest were replies to a literal autist that got really triggered because I said "I don't want to be THAT guy"
>>336899654
>>336900192
>mfw I didn't know about the storm ruler
>go into the boss fight with onion bro.
>Yhorm is so big I don't even take a moment to look how much damage do I make.
>I keep attacking him on his tallon
>sometimes he falls down
>I think me and Siegward are ganksquadding him so much to stunt him.
>keep spamming attacks while I can
>end of the boss fight
>Thinks I did all the work
>never saw siegward doing anything useful (he was behind me giving the fatal blows to yhorm)
>toast with him
>that bicht calls me up to kill Prince Linkin Park
>>336937820
>I understand what a blogpost is but I don't understand it
>I'm not about to stop being a fucking moron :P
This is just amazing. It's so rare to meet actual honest-to-goodness retards.
>>336938658
Oh shit, you called me a retard again.
Guess I had better start doing whatever it is that you want me to do!
You have bested me sir! You have made your point eloquently and clearly, and it can not be refuted.Thanks for the (you)s fuccboi
>Make a new character after completing NG++ and getting all the cheevos on my first character (strength build)
>Started as deprived and have been leveling up vig and dex exclusively
>Can't decide what kind of dex character I'm going to make (full dex, bleed, int, fa or pyromancy)
>Now lvl 25 and already killed the dancer, my characters ass isn't even fat with her armor
Fuck, even the fashion feels lacking so I have no inspiration for making a specific kind of roleplay out of this character. Give it to me straight /v/, which dex playstyle would be the most fun? Pyromancy is the least shit out of the casting stuff, right?
>>336938069
Oh I forgot about that thing.
I remember watching my roommate equip it (after not using it myself) and running through the foggy woods and the shape becoming super visible and getting kinda spooked.
>>336938912
go full carthus, with falchion scimitars whatever and some pyromancy for buffs, also throw a shit-ton of kukris.
>>336893105
completely agree.
i main lorians greatsword, switched as soon as i got it.
its great how you can see how much they car about each other.
>tfw i have a bro and we are tight as fuck.
got to love a good bromance, not to mention the little dig he throws in when you die and the "for it is our curse" line.
10/10
>>336937671
you are reaching new level of meta. That fucking blog post again. Its unreal how you just keep going.
>>336938585
>he's still fixated on the length and not on the stupidity
>he still doesn't answer the question
I think tomorrow I might eat pineapples.
Not sure if I'll watch TV.
I'll play some Dark Souls 3.
Wonder if by that time the pineapple aftertaste will be out of my mouth.
My mom really likes pineapples.
I'm playing Overwatch btw.
And it took me 2 tries to beat Havel, can you believe that?
I think I had like 12 endurance at the time. Neat.
I actually beat the Pontiff with my eyes closed.
It was with one of those night time eye covers. You know they look like glasses sort of. Pretty inexpensive items.
My wife uses them to sleep not me.
>>336938817
You're welcome. Just make sure you stop being a retard if at all possible. Try looking into medication and if it doesn't work, supervised or no access to the internet.
>>336939334
>>336939227
Pic related
Its both of (you) right now
All of this over "don't want to be that guy"
I didn't like Aldrich very much, his arrow move was gay too
>>336939495
What are you talking about? My post was related, since I just told you how I beat the Pontiff and that is very very interesting. What the fuck is your problem? Are you a literal autist?
>>336938069
Dark Souls 2 was so ugly
>>336939701
it looks like a chinese knock-off
>>336939634
Keep going, your autism fuels me
Its delicious
Tell me more about how post formats are very important on /v/ and next time I talk about playing games I need to leave out my own experience with a boss
>>336917456
BEING A DICK
>>336939856
>your autism fuels me Its delicious
Now you are THAT guy
>>336940039
You've already said that.
You're getting stale anon.
Maybe try saying retard again or something?
>>336939856
So what was your problem with my post, autist? Why do you dodge the question?
I think I may go and download some porn very soon.
I also need to take a piss.
Like one of those long ones that feel really good.
>>336939634
Bro, hate to break it to you, but the feeling of validation you get when someone contests you and you present a convincing argument, the one that gives you a feeling of closure and prevents you from obsessing over the argument, what I assume you're looking for because you keep responding to these posts that obviously upset you rather than finding something productive and wholesome to entertain yourself with, it doesn't exist on the internet. Just quit while you're ahead.
>>336918071
But he didn't hollow if I recall right . Max he was corrupted by the dark or maybe by his own eyes ring (going full POETRY)
>>336940095
Who exactly do you think I am, since I didnt call anybody retard? This thread at the very least.
Oh fuck linking the fire doesn't start NG+ automatically
Does this mean I can try getting another ending without having to restart from the beginning?
>>336939701
>>336939807
It wouldn't have looked nearly so bad if they had a decent lighting system.
>>336940139
>Just quit while you're ahead.
Judging by the way he spends his time, I don't think he's ahead of anything
>>336940139
Entertainment is usually not productive. And why did you only quote that post and not his ones too, since he keeps replying the same way because he's upset. Doesn't that seem weird to you, Mr. Totally Not The Same Person?
>>336940415
Dude, everyone is anonymous and I only saw that your post was in the shit show chain. Same applies to you.
>>336940415
>because he's upset
But he just keeps saying "I don't see what the problem is, I think my post was fine" while one or possibly two guys are very upset about it.
Just kind of seems like he's stringing you along desu senpai
>>336922284
SeeingQuelana and her sister dead in the Demon Ruinsnearly broke me.
>>336940415
>And why did you only quote my post
>>336940602
How nice of you to care how we entertain ourselves. Thank you, anon. Bless your little heart.
>>336940614
"He" just keeps calling everyone an autist for pointing out what a giant retard he is.
>>336940783
>"He" just keeps calling everyone an autist for pointing out what a giant retard he is.
And you're saying you WOULDN'T fuck with someone that got as upset as you are over nothing?
>>336940923
If replying makes me upset, it seems you're extremely upset too, genius. You know, on top of just generally being simply too stupid to understand why people called you a retard.
>>336941178
>y-you're mad too though!
>>336941230
>>336941323
You're making some great points there. Does this make you twice as upset by your logic?
>>336932761
No fuck you retard, that's exactly what it is
>>336941420
>maybe if I keep replying, people will agree with me!
>>336932579
where are you?
>>336941420'both' of you are faggots and I plan to continue posting the same way I always have on /v/.
Thanks for being an autist though, its people like you that make /v/ fun sometimes
>>336941709
So now on top of being very upset, you hope people agree with you by making a reply with no argument? Why do you want to please these people? Why are you stupid enough to believe they would agree that blogging is totally cool?
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