Are they the saviors of JRPGS?
JRPGs have been fine. They were just mostly focused on handhelds lately.
>>336884040
>Tales of
Fuck no, put in the MC from Sonys new JRPG at this E3 and it will be accurate. Berseria doesn't even have manual sailing...
>>336884040
more like the last nail in the coffin
>>336884040
Yes.
>>336884204
New Wild Arms seems like a big possibility this E3
Tales is the CoD of jrpgs.
dead on arrival
>>336884040
The king has returned.
>>336884439
dis nigga
P5 is the only game that belongs in that image.
>>336884439
Get help
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/BrgQ5X5DZaZCo_tDF9lPBA/
>>336884439
>youtube comments
DoA-kun please go.
>>336884040
>Tales of
What? That franchise hasn't been good since Phantasia. Copy pasted enemies + textures with a finishing touch of anime tropes.
>tales game
lol tales games have been absolute shit since vesperia
>>336884387
Isn't Wild ARMS - which is set for TGS focus, it's a new IP, with a great director, meant to fill the years that no FF releases.
Replace Noctis or Female Donte with this qt.
>>336884634
is this really a jrpg though
>>336884634
not a jrpg
What is the savior? They already sold well and can recoup.
This new Tales game has potential since Baba isn't involved.
Bears may save Tales, but that's it.
>>336884659
>>336884668
Sure it is. It's not like it's a linear action game like the usual Platinum fare. It has the same structure as the first game.
>>336884634
Not a JRPG, just an action game.
>>336884634
not a jrpg
>>336884767
Is the first Nier just an action game too? Is this going to turn into a "only turn based is okay" thread?
>>336884518
No if anything it's the one that least belongs.
>>336884741
It is linear action game.
>>336884795
This isn't the first nier, nier 2 is not a JRPG it's just an action game, it's why platinum is making it.
>>336884040
Replace edgy Milla with Sophie
>>336884995
/v/ doesn't like Atelier unfortunately
>>336884986
Yoko Taro has explicitly stated that the game has the same structural style of the first game, with sidequests and revisiting past areas. It isn't like the usual Platinum game.
Is Japan degenerating back to Edge McBrooding characters?
>>336885034
>>336884986
Oh fuck, never mind. Just realized it was you, FFXV-kun.
Berseria will probably be mediocre just like every Tales game form the past 6-ish years.
Purseowner 5 and FFXV could be bretty gud though.
>>336885206
I dunno, I think Berseria has a decent chance of being good now that Baba isn't the producer for it
>>336885034
That means nothing towards it being an RPG, you can do that in action games too. We haven't seen a single RPG element in nier 2 because it's not RPG, It's just action in corridors, being able to revisit corridors doesn't mean anything, stop believing everything you read on Wikipedia.
>>336884040
Shitposting aside, Berseria chick is really out of place in that.
2 are high budget, next installments in very popular franchises some people have been waiting for around a decade for, and the other is a Tales game..
>>336884040
Why do I get the feeling that FFXV will turn out to be a trainwreck?
has a game that's been that long in post-production ever been good?
>>336884634
Not a JRPG and it looks like a PS2 game with meme platinum devs.
>>336885292
Holy shit. Did you just use a fucking period and not at the very end of your post/paragraph? I think this might be the very first time you've ever done that. Did you miss the comma key?
>>336885447
>Why do I get the feeling that FFXV will turn out to be a trainwreck
Because you want another tortanic
>>336884110
/thread.
>>336884570
I love how you immediately cite graphics as the reason Tales "hasn't been good since Phantasia". A game that was long surpassed by both its sequel (Phantasia Narikiri Dungeon X) and prequel (Symphonia).
BTW, Abyss is one of the least anime trope JRPG out there, at least play it before making a generalization.
>>336885050
Noctis isn't edgy or brood at all. He's more chill and upbeat than 7 Cloud and he's always making wise cracks, quips and smart ass remarks even during battle while acting arrogant and egotistical, he's basically a mix of Zack and Balthier personality wise, and haven't even heard P5 guy talk yet.
>>336884986
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-10-29-niers-sequel-will-have-all-the-weirdness-of-the-original-and-a-little-more-polish
>Nier Automata, of course, will carry on providing those sudden shifts "The basic framework of the game is similar to the first," explains Taro. "You've got action bits and you've got adventuring and exploration as well. When I first got the request to set the game up from Saito-san, he requested a more action type of game, but I personally wanted to make something that was closer to Ocarina of Time, where you've got lots of field areas and you travel and do battle. I thought it was a really natural, really nice way for the game to be, so I tried to twist his brief to make it more of the kind of thing I wanted to make, and I think I've got it more of mine than his."
>>336884040
Not enough monsters.
>>336885483
What are you talking about?
>>336885897
I want Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3
>>336885373
Well, Berseria is the first game in a long time that isn't being produced by Hideo Baba (the guy who most will point to for the degrading in quality since Vesperia), so people have high hopes for it. I wouldn't call it "just another Tales game" for that reason, even though my expectations are quite low.
>>336885961
Browse some FFXV/JRPG threads for a few days and you'll see.
>>336885447
Mother 3 was 9 years, Pokemon red/green/blue was 7 years from the start to end of development.
Its funny how people hate on the FFXV protagonist that he looks like a pussy when the P5 looks literally like a bitch that avoid eye contact in the street because he is scared
Ask again once they're out.
>>336886082
That's intentional.
I don't think anyone has accused Noctis of being a pussy, it's just that he looks like a fashion model and his friends look like they walked out of a gay bar.
>>336885892
That says nothing about being an RPG, only about places you can go for its traversal structure.
>>336884040
>Left
Also on Steam
>Right
Also on Steam
>Middle
Also on Steam
Steam is the savior of JRPGs
>>336886082
It's even more funny since every FF protag looks more feminine than Noctis does too.
>>336884040
>edgy Milla's pose
The fucking cringe, man.
>>336885889
The P5 guy is just another self-insert, no?
>>336886318
If they went to the effort to hire Lelouch i feel like he's going to be more than just a self insert this time
>>336884040
>harry potter
>backstreet boy
>generic anime girl
No, JRPGs are dead
>>336886318
Why is everyone making a big deal that he's voiced by Jun Fukuyama then?
>>336886431
Probably because he won't be a self insert in the inevitable anime.
>>336886398
Harry Potter invented glasses
Every FF MC is backstreet boy
Every girl in JRPG can be called generic
>>336884040
>Are they the saviors of JRPGS?
>Are they the saviors of literal shit?
No. Fuck off. Jrpg's are for pathetic weeks and nothing else. Kill yourself.
>>336885859
>3ds
why would you do this
>>336886431
>>336886352
The P4 guy was voiced by Namikawa, a very famous VA as well. Didn't make him any less of a mute self-insert.
>>336886318
He definitely will be, but he does seem to have more of a "base" personality than P3's and P4's MCs. With all the smug grins and showing off and stuff.
>>336886263
Do you have ready access to an infinite improbability drive?
>>336886352
Shame that english dub Lelouch already played the P4 protagonist
>>336886896
That wouldn't stop Atlus USA.
>>336886763
These games are definitely coming on Steam anyway, so what you are talking about?
Besides, Atlus isn't stupid for not bringing Persona to Steam in which they can earn more profits from millions of Steam users who don't have to buy an underpowered piece of shit of inferior hardware like the PS4 just to play Persona 5.
>>336887004
They will somehow squeeze in Laura Bailey and Erin Fitzgerald but I doubt they are going to get the protagonist to do the voice of another protagonist in the same series
>>336886187
>this mad
It shows that AutoMata isn't linear action game like bayonetta.
>>336887252
>definitely coming on Steam anyway
[citation needed]
I wonder if you're just falseflagging at this point.
JRPGs don't need saving really. The genre is doing fine. Especially if you consider Japanese ARPGs part of the genre. Which you should since that's what FFXV is aswell.
>>336884040
>>336887430
nice
I played the undub
>>336885859
>using luke
>>336887432
The impossibility drive thing was what an Atlus employee said regarding a PC release of P5. Its not coming to PC.
>>336886263
sales tell otherwise
>>336887594
>Using that two faced fuck
>>336887331
No it doesn't because area maps are all still corridors, being able to revisit them doesn't change that and nothing about that implies it's an RPG, you can revisit places in Zelda games too.
>>336887694
What game is that?
>>336886183
>he looks like a fashion model and his friends look like they walked out of a gay bar
Nothing wrong with being gay.
>>336885859
Which one is the Mustang crying for? Asche?
>>336887572
>SMT or Persona
>ever being relevant
Go compare FF7R reveal and FFXV Uncovered, TGS14, E313 etc to P5 PV 04 or any SMT reveal trailer
>>336886183
Not even, P5 guys all look gay though
>>336887572
Biggest bait I've seen in one of these threads.
>>336887718
Tales of the Abyss.
>>336887960That wasn't actually a request for the name of the game.
>>336885050
Not in Noctis' case at least. His base personality is rather mild and stoic and his family has some Bene Gesserit stuff going on, so he'll probably go full enlightenment later.
>>336888048Soray is shit
>this entire thread
Am I the only one who like edgy Milla?
>>336888342Tough.
>>336888342Not the guy, but despite the game being bad in general, I liked Zestiria's ending. Was a good pay off for the shit I played.
>>336888375
Nope, I like edgy Milla.
>>336887572
Holy shit that music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5XZzTq_gzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZyZIZ1MfuM
Pic related did it for me.
>>336887694
Fuck you man, Guy is the most loyal, most based character in Abyss.
>>336887694
Best melee character in abyss.
>>336888776
>A
>Fucking
>phone
Never thought I would miss Lightning of all things, but here we are.
>>336884040
Why the fuck is that Edgy Taleshit there.
>>336888681
Sounds like a downgrade compared to SMTIV.
>>336884463
If he didn't have such a gay hairstyle he'd look pretty good.
>Persona 5
>FF15
>>336884040
>Persona 5
No, but certainly is a nice addition to JRPGs
>FF XV
Could make or break JRPGs comeback on consoles
>Tales
Lol no, fuck off.I'm still salty that all the games since Vesperia have been mediocre or rushed and that they won't stop using that fucking engine/art style from Xillia.
As someone who loves jrpgs I'll never get why that piece of shit Persona series got popular. The gameplay, story, fucking everything was awful.
>waifus/dating!
The waifus were shit shallow crap. You can better girls in other jrpgs.
>>336884110
handhelds are for losers
>>336884040
> Forgetting the most important one.
So pleb, OP.
>>336890249
Its just a normal JRPG hairstyle
>>336890969
implying it'll be translated
>>336885030
Atelier is for women.
The /v/ audience is men.
>"Savior of JRPGs thread"
>ctrl+f trails
>zero results
kys /v/
>>336891026
>implying we all aren't little girls here
Tales of Berseria
Dragon Quest XI
Nier Automata 2
Odin Sphere Remake
YS 8
Trails in the Sky 3rd
Only upcoming jrpgs I give a shit about.
>>336885889
If only there was a way to bring him to the hairdresser
>>336884040
So, how come these guys can just copy paste Sasuke and get away with it?
>>336891146
Because Asians have limited non-wacky hair options.
>>336891226
I don't mean only his hair.
>>336891112
During the course of the game he's going to rapidly age because of a curse placed on his family, he'll be an old man by the end of the game and look like Regis's old design.
>>336891283
Asians have pretty limited body options too, anon.
Noctis is just Naruto in Sasuke's body. He's a horrible character.
>>336891146
He looks nothing like Sasuke, completely different styles, sasuke is flat spikes and straight back spike up at the back, Noctis has uneven bangs that swoop right and at the back his hair spikes outward to the sides and curves, Noctis also had that hairstyle since 2006 while in 2006 sasuke had his hair parted down the middle like young Zack. Noctis also has a face and build of a young man who looks realistically rendered, sasuke is 2d flat image and looks like a kid.
>>336891426
No he isn't he's nothing like either of them. See >>336885889
>>336891547
>>336891669
I have no interest in anything you say FFXV-kun. You are just shitposter any even people who want to play the game hate you.
>>336891669
>It's not true! Look at this minimal change to his hair to avoid lawsuits!
>>336891112
His hair actually looks good on him when it flattens down somewhat. Balances out his huge Roman nose, too.
>>336891726
Fuck off P5-kun, you are the biggest cunt in existence and have never once been right about a single thing. Kill yourself you apologist hack.
>>336891931
Not him, but that old design was officially said to be WIP. It was never supposed to be used in the actual game anyway.
>>336892014
No seriously XV-kun, everyone's tired of your shit. How many boogeymans haven't you attempted to create now? You're predictable as fuck.
>>336891931
Except Sasuke hair was completely different to Noctis when Noctis was revealed, Sasuke had the same hair as young Zack which was parted bangs down the middle with the back spiked straight back, Noctis's hairstyle is not even styled the same as Sasuke you blind nigger.
>>336892063
>>336892014
Nobody cares. Fuck off.
>>336892063
See you are still going with your cunting apologist bullshit. Kill yourself alreadyP5-kun.
>>336890496(You)
>hipster little bitch
>host club pretty boy paid to entertain women but is a homosexual
>hot werewolf chick in a torn rock star outfit
Tales wins
>>336884040
they all look so pathetic
>>336892372
You mean young man prince who starts the game by going to marry his girlfriend, becomes king then rapidly ages into an old man over the course of the game.
Tales bitch is edgelord dyke.
>>336892617
Nobody cares about your fujoshit trash. kys XV-kun
>>336892617
>my name is FFXV-kun and I reply to every single post that doesn't praise my boyfriend's metro-sexual appearance
Yeah yeah
>>336892617
>Tales bitch is edgelord dyke.
She's into /ss/.
>>336892546
Better than older gen generic JRPG protags
>>336884439
>Host Story
>a bunch of pretty boys going cross country trying to reach their rich female patron so that they can pour her a drink
Sounds pretty good actually
>p5
it'll be good but won't save shit
>FFXV
would have saved it if nomura was still in charge. still going to be good, but the development has been a clusterfuck even up till the end
>tales of Bearstria
lol
personally, I'm waiting for the new Xeno- game with a focus on story rather than the retarded multiplayer with a silent protag
>>336892649
Says the fujoshit P5-kun who ironically has no clue what fujoshit even means.
The funniest part is that the Tales game is the least fujoshit pandering of the 3.
>>336892795
Fuck you're retarded.
>>336892916
riveting argument
>>336892860
LMAO SE is so desperate for that fat fujoshit money they literally hired some boy whores to cosplay as their lead characters. You are the biggest fucktard for not even realizing it. Kill yourself you dumb fuck.
They all look terrible to be honest.
>>336892937
What does two random people cosplaying have to do with anything you utter cunt? P5 is literally fujoshit trash while XV has the most manly men in the cast than any other FF has ever had and only two pretty boys in the entire game which is less than any other FF and even despite that Noctis and Prompto are even less so than the pretty boysin every other FF, the entire P5 male cast is fujoshit teen twink. It's fucking hilarious how much in denial you are about that fact.
>>336892937
Gay
>>336885892
>zelda games are rpgs
Efuckingnough
They are not rpgs
>>336893237
>>336892937
As
>>336892937
>>336893295
>>336893237
Fuck
>>336893159
>the two lead characters are literal boy whores
>NOOO IT'S ONLY TWO CHARACTERS
Can't wait for this game to flop so we can go back to actual FF games. This game is a fucking joke. SE regrets their designs so much that they're even making new designs for the movie instead.
>>336891057
Ssst, let big boys shitting each other. There is no need for trails to follow their path to destruction.
>>336893159
>XV has the most manly men in the cast
barabait confirmed
Can you trigger XV-kun? It's fun and easy if you ever feel bored.
Have you pre-ordered Backstreet Fantasy: XV yet? Tabata even included a western song in the game so you can relate as a band member.
I love how Luna is suddenly a trans Prompto in the movie now. Didn't XV-kun say that game Luna was objectively perfect character?
>>336893380
>prompto
>lead
No hes a party member just like Gladio, Ignis and Cor, Noctis is the lead and he's still less of a pretty boy compared to literally every other FF protag and he's going to be aging rapidly into an old man during the course of the game >>336892617
Even Regis is more lead character than Prompto is and Regis is featured heavily in promo posters and XV displays with Noctis too, fucking kill yourself Yoshidadrone , he's fucking sameface hack who draws even more fujoshit than any other JRPG artist.
>>336893672
He changed his mind.
>>336893491
Seeing the top half makes me sad even if it is just bait. I have nothing against the whole bro trip but I'm sceptical of what they do with it.
>>336893491
Hey Pesmerga you Yoshidadrone hows it feel getting BTFO non stop?
>>336885889
It's the fucking clothes and hair. One or the other would be okay at best but both at the same time? Of course he'll look edgy.
>>336893680
Wasn't I just P5-kun? Are you schizophreniac? Keep up with your own bullshit atleast.
>>336893546
>>336893672
Hey Pesmerga you samefagging cunt hows it feel to live with autism? Maybe you should actually play an FF before trying to shill the older ones, also nice autism for not realising stand by me fits perfectly into the theme of the game in multiple ways
>>336884040
>tales games
>savior of anything
fuck off
fucking shitty badly written mediocre gameplay weeb ridden bullshit
how can you shit out so many games and have only like 4 of them be good
>>336893672
You must be blind, they look nothing like. Luna looks elegant and regal while Prompto looks poor.
>>336893884
Who is Pesmerga? I am Yoshida drone. You're replying to P5-kun. Kagari is also behind you about to kill you!
>>336893850
Pesmerga you retarded cunt it's hilarious how BTFO you always get.
>>336893821
No he doesn't.
>>336887273
They did make Lowenthall do P3 MC and Yosuke though
I'm glad Tabata realized that Luna is so much superior than Stella. So superior that he changed her design AGAIN for the movie.
10/10 director. Can't wait to play this mess in 20 fps.
>>336893963
>Pesmerga still samefagging
You are eternally BTFO it's fucking hilarious
Does anyone even care about XV after playing that awful demo? Shit ran in 800p 20 fps with shittier KH gameplay. Fucking embarrassing show.
>>336893963
Why lie? Stella was confirmed damsel who needed saving and weak as shit one dimensional character, Luna doesn't need any saving and has magic powers since she is oracle and also fights her own battles
>>336884040
No.Valkyrie Profile 3 would be. EO is pretty cool though.
>>336894132
Tabata isn't a designer and he didn't change her, he's not even directing the movie, nozue who directed all Versus cg is directing Kingsglaive, nice meme though since XV full game is 30fps, kill yourself Pesmerga
>>336894218
Nice meme bait.
>>336894476
>Nozue the hack who did AC gets to make Tabata his bitch and change XV characters
What a director Tabata is. 10/10 being played by a literal monkey.
>>336894132
Both movie and game Luna are superior to Stella trash, also everyone in the movie looks different to their game design because it's a different artstyle just like Samus in Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion looks different despite coming out in the same year and month. Stay rekt
>>336893918
>fucking shitty badly written mediocre gameplay weeb ridden bullshit
That's Persona 5 you are describing anon. Are you okay?
Reminder that every single public display of XV has been a failure. The whole game rides on the Versus hype. And they have to pretend Versus isn't already dead since nobody really cares about XV.
>muh fujoshit homoerotic adventures
>>336894416
I'm pretty excited for both EO and Dungeon Travelers 2-2And Demon Gaze 2I really like dungeon crawlers
>>336894705
Nozue directed the CGI only on AC, Nomura was director of the story and characters in AC
Nozue directed the Versus CGI you are literally destroying your own stance here, both game and movie Luna take a hot steamy dump on Stella you literal fanfiction reading tumblr headcanon spouting turbo cunt.
>Butchered the Versus story
>Forced XV to go open-world with the shittiest engine ever, now game plays at 20 fps at maximum
>Looks like ass despite millions of millions invested in graphics because they can't take the resolution higher than 800p
>Combat is a mess. Literally hold circle.
>Character designs are a mess. Main party is intended for a specific Asian fashion niche.
>Keeps butchering it by forcing western meme songs in the game
I'm kind of enjoying the fire that Tabata has created. All he had to do was finish Versus.
>>336894889
>defending Tabata's XV being ass raped by the moron who did AC
As usual no integrity spotted with XV-kun. You belong at SE with the rest of the SE monkeys making this inevitable failure.
>>336887621
Wasn't it an Atlus USA employee?
>>336894783
Reminder that XV has more hype and attention now than it ever did when it was Versus, also Versus was always a road trip story with a war going on in the back just like XV does you fucking retard, Nomura literally said so himself back in 2008 and we saw it in 2008 too.
>>336884040
What about this one?
>>336895135
I don't think I enjoyed a tales game since the 360 one and I just can't get hyped for a final fantasy game anymore.
>>336895093
>XV has hype and attention
>completely drowned out by the noise VII:R created despite being a cheap cash-in on the VII name
>>336884040
>tales of
hell no
Its shit
>>336884040
Replace that thing on the left with Nier and we're good.
That Tales? I haven't played one since Abyss on the PS2.
Dark Souls 3 is the savior of JRPG
>>336884040
>tales of
>shit writing
>generic characters
>repetitive tropes
>combat, the only redeeming grace of this series, has been deteriorating over time
Remove tales
>>336894805
>Demon Gaze 2
I'm more interested in that new Xbone game Experience announced since it will be their first non-dungeon crawler. Sting games are always good.
>>336891057
Trails is literally idols, generic characters and waifubait now.Okay it's pretty short on idols for now at least.
>>336884040
Nah, this one was.
And then they very nearly screwed it up with XCX. Oh well, maybe the next XC won't be trashed in the middle of its development.
>>336895804
>A literal offline MMO with god awful predictable plot
>Savior
Oy
>>336895751
Irena is perfect
Shame you don't get her until the main game is done
>>336894947
No he didn't, Nomura was still director when the story changes happened in 2012, that's when Stella was changed to Luna confirmed never by gameimformer, you never fucking played Versus you lying cunt.
Versus was always open world since 2010 when Nomura confirmed it and we saw the first in game screenshots, it's 30fps in the full game and they already said PC version would come after console version is out. Nice lies again.
XV is the best looking FF game ever and is 1080p with dynamic res, which will be even higher on the eventual PC version.
Combat has more depth and input than any KH game or FF game, holding O does nothing but repeat input of attack and youd die if you tried it.
Character design is the most socially acceptable and respectable designs FF has ever had they don't look Asian at all, they were done by Nomura and Ferarri when you back when it was still Versus, nice lies again.
Didn't butcher anything, Stand by Me is an amazing song and fits entirely with the theme of brotherhood and bonds the game has, the lyrics match the story with the plague of the stars and it being a real song fits the fantasy based on reality motif that XV had since Versus, it also uses the FF prelude mixed into the track with a great orchestra arrangement.
Nice meme post full of lies, story changes and Stella changed into Luna happened when Nomura was still on board as director in 2012, he only went down off of being director in December 2013 buthe stayed on the project until September 2014. Nice lies again.
>>336895962
> and they already said PC version would come after console version is out
It's never been literally confirmed to be 100% coming out, as likely as it is.
Who is more pathetic? FFXV-kun or Anthony Burch. I'm having a tough time deciding.
>>336895962
>dynamic res to 720p
>20 fps at the maximum
>hold circle to control fujoshit
We all played the fucking demo. Nobody is falling for your lies again, autist fuck. This game is in a awful state.
>>336895034
Fuck off Pesmerga, Nomura was responsible for AC story characters and direction since he was director on the film, nozue only lead the CGI production direction because he's a visual works studio CGI animator and only involved in the CGI production process
On Versus Nozue directed the CGI trailers that we saw since 2006 and he's directing Kingsglaive because he's the one who fucking directed the Versus CGI to begin with
>>336895804
>offline MMO
this is a pretty annoying statement.
>>336895287
FF7R itself drowned out anything FF related you retard, even FF7 videos on YouTube itself, by your logic that means no one cares about original FF7.
>>336896192
>Grind
>Fetch quests by the loads (with awful ways to get them)
>Grind some more
>Slow ass movement in bigass but mostly empty zones
>>336893918
>implying Abyss wasn't the best JRPG of the the sixth gen
>implying Vesperia wasn't the best JRPG of the seventh gen
>implying Tales won't have the best JRPG of the eighth gen since Baba is no longer producer
>>336896329
All of those are bullshit and you know it family
>>336895962
Why do you have to reply to every single bait that /v/ spouted, you idiot. If people don't like it, just accept it. Let the game speaks for itself when it comes out.
>>336884518
Lolno.
Geez, you Personafags are really the worst
>>336896396
find me a jrpg with better gameplay than this
>>336896129
Its 1080p with dynamic res to 900p and it's still 30fps and higher res than any other console FF, plus the eventual version would be even higher, every other FF is more fujobait than anything in XV and nice lies again, you never touched it at all, Shield gives you perfect time blocks, animation cancelling and lets you stun IG when blocking because it knocks back the enemy and opens them up to critical hits, using shuriken and airstep also alows you to perfect dodge his swing attacks mid air with the directional input backflips and come in for hits between swings, directional input gives you different weapons techniques too like tempest, brave slash, charge attacks, backflip dodge, etc, if you we're on ground you would not be able to be open up to him him when he does that since you'll either get hit or be guarding all four hits he does, also that is extremely effective not only for movement and combo in quick succession in the air but when you actually think about how it applies to the full game where you have multiple enemies and aerial enemies too then it becomes even more useful, the combat has more input than any KH game or FF EVER did just from weapon switching alone, you never played it because you sound like you are full of shit, just someone who watched some youtube vids so you can shitpost while at least pretending you know what you are talking about.
>>336896523
>Le meme combo video that doesn't reflect real gameplay at all
Even in its own series Xillia 2 blows the fuck out of that.
Valkyrie Profile, take your pick between one and two, KH2FM on Critical because it rewards you for being good, Odin Sphere Leifthrasir, Shadow Hearts Covenant, FFX-2, several Atelier games to get you started.
>>336896491
This faggot is a samefag who keeps posting the same meme images and trying to shit on it by blaming everything on Tabata while coclsucking Nomura even though the changes all happened before he left, he's constantly spouting lies and trying to make an anti-xv shitposting tirade, he deserves all the BTFO I give him.
"Oh hey Velvet, look, a thread where we're mentioned! Should we participate?"
"Forget it Laphicet, it's shitposting town."
"Oi Velveto, why is that guy saying that Persona 5 and FF XV are coming out for PC?"
"Because he wants to post a picture of a fat crying Wojak."
>>336896810
Fair enough, KH2 FM+ is a legitimately great action game. I haven't played Valkyrie Profile but it's made by Tri-Ace and everything I've tried from them (various SO games, Resonance of Fate) are garbage, I would be surprised if it's any good.
The rest of your post is turn based shit with the exception of Odin Sphere which I don't consider an RPG.Also fuck off with the "doesn't reflect real gameplay" meme, if you're good enough you can go cuhrayzee on nigh every enemy
>>336897120
Are the apples supposed to be Velvet's tits or Laphicet's balls? Or perhaps both?
>>336884040
Nah, I have my eyes set on something different.
Is FFXV-kun here?
Is there a single thread that mentions FF in which he isn't present?
I'd been getting every Tales Of game, since TOS's release. Berseria is the first Tales Of game that I'm not even remotely interested in.
TOX was a letdown, and TOX2 was somewhat decent. TOZ was just shit, and I didn't even finish it.
FF, Persona, and the new Star Ocean may be good though (I actually haven't heard much from /v/ about the new Star Ocean yet, is it good?).
>>336897231
You can go cuhrayzee meme in DMC too, doesn't mean that anyone will because it's inefficient as fuck.
There's literally no point to it other than making show-off videos.
>The rest of your post is turn based shit
So what? Is good gameplay only defined because of how """"""deep""""" it is? If so, go for Last Remnant.
>>336896810
>>336897231
Also, Xillia 2's gameplay is good, but if you take a second to look at the movesets you'll find that it's lacking significantly in cancels and other interesting arte utilities that kept Vesperia's challenge/combo videos strong for an extremely long time.
>>336892795
Dude, what the actual fuck.
Nomura WAS the reason the dev was a fucking clusterfuck for almost 7 years.
Tabata IS the reason the game will finally release and eventually save anything
>>336897341
Reviews said it was underwhelming
>>336886550
This is what I want to know, too. Aside from the portable angle you're much better off just emulating the PS2 version. It looks better compared to shitty 240p screen 3DS has, for starters.
>>336897382
>Nomura WAS the reason the dev was a fucking clusterfuck for almost 7 years.
Citation needed, brother.
>>336897382
You must have a greet deal of insight on game development to make such bold claims :^)
>>336897032
Just ignore them like the "dead on arrival" poster. And what do you expect from /v/ or 4chan in general? A highly intellectual discussion?
>>336897452
How about reality.
>>336893762
Why are FFVersusXIII fans as retarded as you are ?
The game already was a roadtrip back in 2008 according to Nomura.
>>336897535
So in other words, you have no proof for your claim.
>>336897507
Because unlike DoA kun this faggot has been posting this shit for 2 years now and makes it impossible to discuss anything with his autism, telling him facts and posting them in long posts is the only way to destroy him and at the same time inform people who are otherwise unaware.
>>336897623
Have you been living under a rock?
>>336885859
>mfw accidentally starting down the hard route in Symphonia on my first playthrough
If anything Tower of Mana and Mausoleum bosses really taught me how to play the game properly. Problem was I facerolled pretty much everything after that point because I got gud too early.
>>336897452
Nomura is known to overcomplicate things. It's his care-free attitude. That's why he usually have someone to co-direct projects with him.
>>336897296
forget it, people are now "JRPGs are mature" phase now. ni no kuni is seen as too kiddy.
>>336897371
>There's literally no point to it other than making show-off videos.
You call them "show-off videos", I call them "pushing the limits of the game engine and showcasing how deep it can be". There's a reason the game gives you minimum damage and solo character skills.
I've actually been meaning to try out The Last Remnant for a long time, I know of its status as an extremely difficult game.
>>336897452
Never seen denial here.
Where were you when i got thru sometimes YEARS of silence between 2006 and 2013 ?
And shit, even after the 2013 reveal, we had A WHOLE YEAR of silence under Nomushit.
And then, Tabata happened. Thank god.
>>336897767
So can you give me some proof or not?
>>336897807
Looking at it, it's just KH3, Coded and Key.
>>336897950
Or, you know, it just never went into full development for other reasons than your unfounded Nomura hatred with no proof.
>>336897931
>I know of its status as an extremely difficult game.
That's largely because the game expects you to fight with one hand tied behind your back by intentionally not telling you everything and forcing trial and error approach, while looking shit up or modding the game for clarity ruins the experience. Then again if you're type of player who will go through tales NG+ multiple times to get everything this TLR might be the game for you.
>>336884767
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>>336884787
Nier Automata is confirmed to be a JRPG long ago. Deal with it.
>>336897490
Fucking retards. Nomugay fans.
>>336897767
>>336897950
>>336897623
By 2012 Versus wasn't even 25% complete, Nomura was director on it since 2006, it was only in July 2012 that they rebooted it to XV and Nomura put Tabata on as his co-director, and since the 2013+ trailers we've seen lots of progess on it and lots of behind the scenes inner working and transparency from the dev team, once Nomura left in September 2014 we got regular monthly updates and news playable demoes, it getting displays at game events, the uncovered event and a release date.
>>336898060
I don't remember there being rpg elements in nier
>>336895962
Shouldn't you at least post an image from a final fantasy game with only male playable characters like in ff15 instead of posting pictures of several characters spread out over several games?
Plus all of the games in the opposition has at least one female character in the party. I'm not trying to shit on FF15, but you don't make your case any better.
Why didn't they go full dev then ?
The FF XIII thing was back in 2009.
7 YEARS. NOMURAFAGS WILL DEFEND THIS.
>>336897984
You are the worst of all. Do you have any proof :(((((((((((((((((((((((
>>336884040
>Persona 5
Perhaps, but I fear more dating sim shit instead.
>FF15, ToB
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
