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There are people literally posting pictures and videos of themselves masturbating to other poster's characters in /xivg/.

Can we talk about FFXIV here now?
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I almost got current on content and stopped playing
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>Get friends into the game
>Going through it with them, helping them in dungeons, trying to teach them how to properly play their classes
>Get to Haukke Manor
>Tank has no clue how to actually tank, continuously throws shield lob at everything, despite being told not to start off with that by me and another player during dungeon
>DPS slams her head into every wall and dies repeatedly to the boss

FFXIV main stuff really should have taught people how to play their class before the 30s, rather than just go "focus on damage, nothing else, k?"
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I'm so unexcited for 3.3
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>>336860084
>despite being told not to start off with that
But he should.
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>main job fully geared out in lore gear
>alt job has all prototype midas gear
>both have 230 relic
>all crafting jobs to 3star stats, bar being only able to craft the 3star specialist recipes because of being locked out of others
>all gathering jobs fully geared out
>PvP rank at 50

>cancelled sub
>ends in 5 days

I'm free.
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>>336860762
my sub expires in 13 days. truly a blessing.
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>>336860084

Are you stupid? Why wouldn't he start off with shield lob?
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>>336860762
>finally tired of Yoshida's shit
>finally over the lore grind
>finally over the terrible community
>can not concentrate on other games

This is my first FF and it got me to play Final Fantasy IV, VII and IX, boy did I make the mistake of picking an MMO for my first game. I've been missing out.
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>>336861426
That there is a problem in itself. I'm not saying this is specifically you, but FFXIV is loaded with throwbacks and fan service to older FF games. A lot of the people that come into FFXIV have it as their first FF game, don't understand a lot of the things that happen in the world, then complain about things not making sense.

Usually WoW players.
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>>336861659
>playing FFXIV and not a FF fan
why do this
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>>336857405
FUCK OFF FAGGOT

YOU PEOPLE KEEP EVADING YOUR CONTAINMENT. YOU KEEP SHILLING THIS SHIT GAME.

ITS BEEN THE SAME SHIT SINCE 2.3 FORWARD.
KEEP SHOVING THAT YOSHI COCK DOWN YOUR THROAT.

Weebshitters who can't get gud: the only people who continue to play this handholding garbage FF skinned streamlined WoW "singleplayer but the raids" game.

Yes, I played from 1.15 to 2.4.
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>>336862952
you're a cocksucking faggot
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>>336862952
t Blizzard
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>>336862143
Ask the OF.
They're guilty about complaining the most about references they don't get and feel left out on. There's people who get upset over not knowing who Firion is. I wish I could find the thread.
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Do new players have any expenses?
I'm about to fight titan and I've got this, but besides the very occasional repair job I've had nothing to really spend it on.

Also some nice people invited me into a hunt party before despite only being Lv36. What can I spend Allied hunt seals and these "Allagan Tomes of Poetics" things on?
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>Going to /xivg/ ever

You have only yourself to blame, that place has never been good and is probably the worst general on the board
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>>336863789
Funny how they took that position from Katawa Shoujo General
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Link to videos?
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>>336863692
You won't get an opportunity to spend those things until level 50. Poetics can be exchanged for good level 50 gear. Allied seals can buy miscellaneous things such as crafting materials and minions.
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>>336863209
t Weebshitter who doesn't know its literally the same dogshit since 2.3 forward, keep sucking on that YoshiT cock.


Picture related, an old 1.x screenshot of mine.

I haven't played WoW since 2007, fuckboi.
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>>336862143
First post in this thread, not the guy that the guy you replied to was replying to. FFXIV is the first Final Fantasy game I've really played and I don't really have trouble understanding anything. I get that the FF franchise reuses concepts, characters, designs, etc., but really, FFXIV isn't a complicated game.
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>>336864073
>muh 1.0

Fuck off dude, it was dogshit
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>>336863036
You're a pleb.
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>>336863692
Poetics gets you lvl50 i120 gear which you can upgrade to 130. Allied Seals are good for gear augmentation stuff.
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>>336863692
There's no real gil expenses that the game will force on you. You're pretty much just looking at buying stuff off the market board, which can be virtually anything e.g. gear, materia, glamours, housing furniture, etc.
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>>336864164
Nice reply, you must be camping this thread.

Keep deflecting on post 2.3 ARR being shit. Also, nice memepost.
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>>336863994
Okay, so I can't take advantage of this stuff until later.
Thanks.

Also Y'shtola gets it; those Company of Heroes fags really jerked me around.
Ifrit was a breeze, and I'm hoping Titan is the same.
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>>336864140
It's not just about concepts though we literally have stuff like Crystal Tower from III and Ozma from IX next patch.

This game is like the Sonic Generations of Final Fantasy
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>>336864338
>not sitting on the bench with Y'shtola and taking a picture
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>>336864248
Fair enough. Doesn't look like I can access the glamour system until level 50 either, so I guess I'll just sit on my phat stack of cash. Although getting some of that Eikoncloth armor was tempting; I can afford two accessories or one piece of armor with what I have.

Thanks again everyone.
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>did Crystal Tower raids again for the first time since ARR
>remember how fucking AMAZING these raids were

Good lord SE thank you for giving me a reason to run these again.

Also fix Void Ark because it's fucking dogshit
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>>336865120
Aesthetically, Syrcus Tower was pretty amazing
The newest addition coming in 3.3 actually looks decent, but I think ST is still the best
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>Can now get unlimited grade IV materia just from beast tribe dailies
I hope this is a precursor to removing the spiritbonding system altogether, because it's fucking awful and no one likes it. Still, it would have been nice if they hadn't completely trivialized materia. Make it cost company or hunt seals or something.
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>Wait 20 minutes for leveling roulette
>Garuda NM
>Tank and healer are both new
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>>336865730
oh, I guess you'd prefer Aurum Vale again you whiny cunt
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>>336866128
Yes pls.
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>>336865478
The best way would be to remove materia as they are; halve the number of slots; add new materia that add statistical bonuses (eg. Adds X% fire damage to weapon, or reduces MP by X% and increases HP by Y%) and add class-specific modifiers to gear (eg. Dragoon boots with "increases Jump-skill potency by XX").
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>>336865730
>>336866128
Everything wrong with this game. Only thing to argue about is what to get in duty roulette.
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>>336865730
God forbid new people play the game.
I'm sure they thought the same when you poetics boners popped up.
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>>336866208
That would be the ideal. The current materia system is shit and doesn't offer any real choice anyway. Its just another thing you have to grind out to maximize your performance.

Materia is just poorly thought out at almost every level. It's a pain in the ass to acquire, the materia you get is random (and can easily end up as an utterly useless elemental resistance materia), and to even put it on your gear you need the right crafter at the right level, PLUS a catalyst that needs to be farmed. It's just tedious in every imaginable way and should really be rebuilt from scratch.

Like you said, make materia add unique bonuses instead of just being +stat. Remove spiritbonding and let materia come from other sources like desynthesis, and remove the randomization by making it so certain items always turn into specific types of materia. And remove the requirements for actually putting it in gear. Just let people shove it in there.
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>>336866718
Hey, it's not like I didn't try. I explained what to do, but bailed after three wipes due to the healer not healing.
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My favorite story so far.

>Doing trial roulette, get Ravana, PLD decides to MT despite having less hp, whatever lets do this shit
>PLD almost falls off like 4 times, get ready to take over at a moments notice.
>Second phase happens, a few people die to rose of hate, but we still manage to clear.
>Faggot PLD says "I forget every drk has to mt, you're probably one of those douchebag legacy players"
> I tell him that it's a fucking mechanic that Ravana automatically switches to the offtank in the last phase.
>Shut down he just leaves.

>MFW
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> cancelled my subscription 2 weeks ago

I'm finally free, bros!
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>>336865730
Stop your whining. At lest it's not a dzemael hold run where the retards absolutely need to kill every single mob for that 12 and a half experience. Fuck.
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>>336865120
> mfw when i pretend to be afk to avoid fighting the bosses and don't roll on loot to prevent being kicked
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>>336867491
you'll be back with the next expansion
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Been trying to level on a new server with friends but holy christ the MSQ is just so bad the second time around. I just can't understand why they'd gate the entire game behind 100 hours of single player content. By and large it wouldn't be so bad but the Duty quests are a massive drag since every time its you killing adds and waiting on npcs.
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>>336861426

You'll get over it once you realize that the content never changes.
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>>336867929
A dirty lala being a faggot.
Woah...
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>>336868490
I'd quit before I reroll.
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>>336857405
>There are people literally posting pictures and videos of themselves masturbating to other poster's characters in /xivg/.
Wait is this really a thing? Link this shit
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>>336868696
Eh, if it makes you feel any better i used to feel bad about it the first couple of times i did it. But then i realized that if blizzard wanted me to actually pull my weight in that raid they would have made it hard or at the very least non-boring, like coil 5.
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When's 3.3?
5-6 more weeks?
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>>336864250
Who gives a shit what the quality of the game is? You're still a whiny little cunt.
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Heavensward is such a massive disappointment. None of the patches make me want to come back.
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>>336870092
3.3 will save the game, you'll see.
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>>336869890
No date announced but it should come end of this month/beginning of next. The PLL on the 22nd of this month will show us the rest of 3.3 info, the trailer and date most likely.
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>>336868062
Nah. I'm not coming back. The only thing that kept me going was the house, but since i'm gonna lose it there's no point in coming back. Besides it's literally Gated Content: the game. Unless they get rid of that retarded stuff they can go fuck themselves
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>>336870774
>Nah. I'm not coming back.
See you later.
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>>336865730
>trial roulette pops
>steps of faith
>everyone is new
>people on cannons only putting one chain down
>guy on dk dropping it on the party and wiping them every time
>guys keeping the dragons at the back so the cannons can't reach

Every single time, without fail.

Just make it a solo duty already yoshi, NO ONE likes it, and it's a titanic timesink.
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>>336871107
or
OR
YOU GUIDE THEM
>faggot go to chain there ill use other chain
>one tank with brain cells move the fucking adds to the front and let the cannon guys rape trash mob
IS IT FUCKING HARD?
oh wait
yes it is


thats why I always queue as DPS or Tank with my pocket healer jewsus christ
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Am I doomed to be unable to finish the coils? Duty Finder takes fucking forever to pop and I'm not sure if taking them up in PF will actually let me start on the second coil.
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>The best gear I can equip is a bondage outfit
Who designed this shit?
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>>336871808
Yes
Best way to do it is with FC or friends

>>336871742
>games are meant to be playes. not googled
>Four cannons, four party members, boss always sat in the middle stationary, not hard to figure out
Gee, I bet this guy had a fun time facing Ascian Prime
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>>336871808
put one up in pf people might help ya with your clear because of the poetics bonus you give
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>>336871939
And aww shit.
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>>336871939
Only get better.
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>>336871939
You'll equip the gimp suit 2 or 3 more times before 50, and you'll probably be wearing the top for a while before you get your relic chest at 50 not that I minded

The funny part is that one of the longest stretches you'll have it is in the obligatory winter zone
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>>336871742
>was about to respond that they never listen
>you know my pain

Brother. Image related regarding their learning capability.
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>>336872216
I don't mind either, but fanservice outfits just doesn't seem very (medieval) "Final Fantasy" to me.

Also
>there's literally a character called Memedesu
Jesus
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>>336872660
Good thing FF is not medieval.
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>>336872660
Blame that hack called Koji-fox
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>>336860136
It's a welfare patch so it's not gonna be as interesting as 3.2 for sure. Hopefully the new shit they add will be less of a failure than Diadumb tho.
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>>336872660
>doesn't seem very (medieval) "Final Fantasy" to me.

Just wait till you see all the post 50 gear, especially tomestone gear
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>>336857405
>videos of themselves masturbating to other poster's characters
Any of them girls? If not you've brought this to out attention for no reason.
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>>336872963
>hating on Salvage 2.0

It needs work, but come on.
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>>336872963
3.2 was interesting?
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>>336857405
No.
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>>336872660
There's enemies called Gamergates too, but that's probably just a happy coincidence
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>>336873082
Compared to the absolute disaster 3.1 was, for sure. That shit was the worst patch in the game's entire post-2.0 history.

>>336873078
I know nothing about PVP, never played a single match in my life. I play fightan for my PVP fix.
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>>336872963
3.2 was pretty crap, people only like it because it's a bit better than that horrible patch that came before it. Everything about 3.1 felt like they just slapped random shit together at the last minute.
>uhh we have assets for Thordan let's just make a hard more fight out of that
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>>336873235
Gamergate is a real ant.
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>>336873270
Thordan EX was literally the only good thing in 3.1 tho.
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>he still plays ffxiv
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Dark Knight or Warrior? Which is better?
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>>336873394
It was, still doesn't mean it was lazy as fuck.
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>>336873432
RMTing count as playing?
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>>336873542
WAR is hands down the best tank. DRK 30-50 is the best job quest in the game.
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>>336873365
Like I said, happy coincidence
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>>336873542
DRK
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>>336873542
WAR because I love axes. Still upset there's no actual DPS class that uses them. Should let you queue as one and not let you switch into defiance if you do.
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>>336857405
>/xivg/
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>>336874058
They'll probably add beastmaster at some point using (twin) tomohawks.

>pic
B'aww.
Now this is good characterisation. They could take a lesson when scripting major dipshits like Thancred.
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>>336874058
WAR in Deliverance stance is basically a DPS class
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>>336874387
The problem with the scions is that a lot of their characterization happened in 1.0
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>>336874102
Those people are still faggots for posting their characters as reaction images.
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>>336874102
Fuck off.
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FUCK RED SCRIPTS

WHY DO I HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK JUST TO CRAFT

SIX WEEKS JUST TO GET TOOLS FOR 1 CRAFTER

WHAT'S THAT? JUST CRAFT i170 STUFF INSTEAD? WELL IT'S DAMN GOOD THING THAT STUFF NEEDS RED SCRIPTS TOO.
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>>336874102
how could this happen
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>>336874102
W-What the.... is this board on 4chan?
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>>336874463
having never played 1.0 I kept wondering why I should have cared about any of them for a good chunk of the game.

It wasn't until you break Minfillia out of that imperial base that I started to care about any of them.
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>>336874871
i know the feeling, i had to shut down my brain with crafting and bite the pillow while waiting for the resets
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>>336874871
>>336875060
oh btw didn't they announce new crafter gear for 3.3?
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>>336874871
>boy this job system is so amazing, it lets me be every job at once!
You're better off in any other MMO where you just make alts that wont get locked out of shit like this.
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>>336874871
Have to keep the crafters gated also. It would be unfair to the crafters.
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>>336875142
I want off this ride
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>>336875142
I think it's gonna be for all classes though like Artisan/Forager gear in 2.X
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>>336875142
Universal DoH/L gear coming for 3.3, will likely need a beefed up class of current gear + specialist to even make for the rest of us.

>>336875163
If only making alts wasn't so god damn tedious in every other MMO.

>>336864073
>Picture related, an old 1.x screenshot of mine.
Picture related, a recent 1.X screenshot of an empty island that best represents 1.X.
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>>336875397
>If only making alts wasn't so god damn tedious in every other MMO.
Its less tedious than in FF14, because in other games you dont just exhaust the story quests.
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>dry desert air
Dammit game.
For a place called Drybone it seems to be raining every time I come here.

>>336874463
In that case they should have playable "echo" flashbacks, like in Dark Souls with the Oolacile village; let me play through an abridged version of the 1.0 story so half the lore isn't locked behind a dead MMO that only exists on a server somewhere. I'm interested in the story, but I feel like the game needs at least an in-game glossary. eg. I keep hearing the word "Allagan": allagan tin piece, allagan tomes. But what the fuck is an Allagan?
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To make money you need money.
Fuck crafting.
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>>336875397
Whoops, wrong empty island. I can't tell one copy-pasted chunk from another.
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>>336874387
The sad part is that if they ever added a beastmaster it's almost guaranteed you'd only get 3 or so fixed pet types instead of being able to pick one out of the wild like this thing

Also from what I understand pet AI is a bit retarded, but I don't play SMN/SCH so I wouldn't know
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>>336875468
Yeah, that is a problem with the game. They continually reference things that are never properly explained.

The Allagan Empire was a super-advanced civilization that existed 5000~ years ago and ruled the entire world through technological superiority. Lots of the present technology (particularly the magitek of the garleans) comes from studying Allagan ruins/data.
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>>336875538
this is why I'm leveling botanist
fuck the jews
I'm getting all my shit on my own to be a bigger jew
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>>336875795
Ah, well then fair enough.
It's not just allagans though; topics like this seem to crop up a lot.

>>336875646
Is that a fucking T-rex?
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>>336875468
>recycled 1.0 """"content""""

>>336875397
>>336875550
oh boy my very own empty desert wasteland

>>336875646
>recycled chocobo asset

>>336875293
Why do you care about craft gear anyway? shit's useless
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>>336876075
It's a vinegaroon. There's also Tyrannosaurs which you can probably guess look even more similar to T-rexes. They're both related to dragons, which is what Heavensward's story is about.

But yeah, it took me a long time to piece together a lot of what was happening in the story.
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>>336876157
>oh boy my very own empty desert wasteland
Hey now, it's a beach, not a desert.

Have some rocks instead.
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>>336875397
What about airships that arrived in real time?
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>>336876240
You mean black T-rex and white T-rex, they both have the exact same rig and animations just like 90% of HW's """"""""""""new""""""""" mobs, putting them both in the same cave just makes it even more obvious, meanwhile outside you have bears and blue bears with a slightly different head.
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>>336876474
What about them?
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>get to level 50 on my combat class
>not close to being finished with the main story quests
>not sure if I still want to keep playing but my autism won't let waste XP on my combat class so I've been leveling literally everything else
anyone know this feeling
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>>336876240
I still don't quite get the distinction between unintelligent scalekin and sentient dravanians, since the only real way to tell is if they're under the command of an intelligent one or they start talking
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>>336860762
>sub expired
>mansion demolished
>all patches since 3.0 have been carbon copies of 2.0 patches
>still no way to customize skills/abilities

FREEDOM
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>>336876532
Cool! I wish that's how they worked.
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>Unidentified's
Makes me miss the RNG.
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>your FC is getting a mansion
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>>336877057
>falls apart a month later
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How do they keep getting away with the Compile Heart tier recycling? These guys are out of place as fuck.
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Urged to buy this for PS4 because don't make enough right now to upgrade my PC + buy the game, is it worth? Or should I stick with playing MapleStory like the nostalgiafag pleb I am?
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>>336876737
Based on the specific species as far as I can tell. Vouivres, Amphitheres, Wyrms, Wyverns seem to be sentient. Aevis', Syrictas and Diresaurs I think are hyur/elezen who have transformed into dragons. Drakes, Dinosaurs and so on are related to dragons but non-sentient.
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>>336873394
>lazy copypaste of pretty much every single old mechanic in the game
>good

No, it introduced nothing new or interesting to the game at all, just like 3.1 as a whole, Ravana EX and even Bismark EX are better designed fights simply by merit of having at least one new mechanic.
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>>336877172
Don't bother, it's shit.
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What
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>>336877278
>simply by merit of having at least one new mechanic.
Ravana EX reusing a dive bomb icon from T13 and using it for a completely different unrelated mechanic
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Why do people play this game? $15 a month for piano combat
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>>336877484
Positional barriers are new at least, the game as a whole has a retarded consistency issue with its markers, that they just now are barely starting to fix.
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>>336877116
nah its not gonna fall apart
people in it are super casual so there's no tensions
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>>336877395
Nobody said anything about there being existentialist snowmen about.
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>>336877484
Divebomb mechanic is a green circle, not red target marker.
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>>336877206
That seems about right
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>>336876796
>>still no way to customize skills/abilities
This keeps being brought up, but in a raiding focused game, it's almost impossible to balance this, any game that tries, ala rift always ends up doing it in such a way that even when a new soul/class is introduced, within 2 months there is an optimal build that everyone uses and you are a retard if you don't.
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>>336877760
For the second marker in T13 they use the ones you see in Ravana EX. Icons don't mean anything in XIV these days anyway
>Can cure concussion in Anti Tower but not in AM1
>Void Ark boss does the same mechanic as KoTL's 2nd boss only it uses the dive bomb icon
One day that new stack icon which I think is perfect is probably going to mean something else.
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>>336877719
I hope you enjoyed that quest, since it's the most fun you'll be having in coerthas
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>>336877172
Yeah for a new player, there is a ton of content and shit to do. Lots of really fun fights too. The story fluctuates in quality greatly though
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>>336877278
>the only way for a fight to be fun is if it has new mechanics
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game is dead
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>>336877924
>Can cure concussion in Anti Tower but not in AM1
The game really needs another version of debuff icons to signify if it's removable with Esuna or not, especially if it's going to keep the exact same tooltip and debuff name.

Second marker is the only time something not for a divebomb was used for a divebomb. To my knowledge, the prey, wild charge, and meteor stream markers have always been used in a similar manner across all fights that utilize it.

Another thing I'd like is for shit like A6S' elemental debuffs to play some form of wind-up animation leading to the debuff wearing so you're not stuck needing to check the duration or have someone call out it's about to trade/explode.
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>>336878140
At least try to hide the lazy rehashing by making new effects and animations for whatever is being rehashed, ST meteors being the laziest rehash out of them all.
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All 50 - 60 bosses can not be interrupted...
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>>336877172
I started like a month and a half ago and I'm still enjoying myself, I'm on a smaller server though so you see recognize faces pretty quick.
Your fun depends on who you meet, most people in this game are super chill though, really nice community.
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>>336878352
>Nothing can be slept in 51-60 dungeons
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>>336878352
you can interrupt bosses in level 50 dungeons

dusk vigil and onwards is when it stops
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>>336878464
But why?!
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>>336878424
I guess they figured the shitters were just gonna wake them up anyway and saved us the trouble
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>>336878604
power creep, bosses are tougher now.
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just bought havensward moment ago.
is it long? im worry about catching up with others. and my gears are pretty shit right now
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>>336878632
It was to people from rushing straight to the boss and sac pulls, which was how everyone farmed endgame dungeons at launch.
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>>336878736
>bosses are tougher now.
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>>336878783
All the post 50 dungeons are gated anyway so that's redundant.
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>>336878847
They weren't gated at launch, now that everything is gated though, it makes less sense that mobs resist sleep.
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>>336878604
2hard and no one bothers with stuns. if they do they spam them off CD so say goodbye to timing them e.g.coincuter. CC is nonexistent to most players, though some classes have disables to lower damage potency of big hits.
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>>336878929
>now that everything is gated

Game is dead to me.
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>>336878963
Just wish the game had an enfeelbing/buffer class already so the devs can build content with the assumption there's a CCer/Silencer/Stunner/etc in the party.
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>>336860762
Better get all those cheevos fool. What are you doing on /v/, you only have 5 days!
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>>336860762
you didn't platinum the game on ps4 yet
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Does it make anyone else think about when eventually everyone in your linkshells and FC will leave over the years and you'll never have fun group chats again?

It honestly makes me depressed.
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>>336880234
+++
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>>336880234
>over the years

Try every month because the game is shit and keeps losing players who are unsubbing due to no content
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>>336878352
With stuff like that and Sleep becoming useless, 4.0 really needs to either rework or try to utilize a lot of the less/never used systems in the game. Just a few more examples:

>Cross-classing being nigh useless outside of a few essentially required skills (Invigorate, Provoke, Swiftcast) that there are probably only enough if not less than that to fill out your slots
>Defense/Magic Defense (for the most part), Elemental Resistances, and the entire Resistances tab. Other than the shot period where Dragoons had less Magic Defense than other jobs, none of this mattered that much. Needs to be reworked or just removed instead of keeping track of useless stats.
>Parry
>More than just basic stats on gear itself. Add weapon procs and other secondary effects. Like Ifrit weapons should have a chance to chuck a fireball at your enemy or something. Set bonuses too, which they had originally planned for the first Crystal Tower, but never happened.

Heavensward just feels more like a "playing it safe" expansion, really. More of the same, not really BAD, just not really evolving the game further.
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Hope I never replay this mess, damaged my life and body beyond repair.
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>>336881179
>Hope I never replay this mess, damaged my life and body beyond repair.

From a casual mmorpg? Normies are so disgusting.
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>>336880887
Oh and not really a system, but raids being only 4 bosses a tier has gotten really old. The fights are still fine, but it's not a lot of content, especially once you're on farm status. Plus that contributes another problem of there being only 2 choices of gear for any given slot (or no choice when it comes to rings), more bosses would mean they might have to make more than one set of gear for each type of job.
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>>336880887
more of the same obviously isn't going to cut it because people who reached end-game but don't want to raid leave because there's nothing to do, and people who do want to raid get tired of them after they clear, and flinging new minigames nobody cares about
clearly there needs to be some sort of shift in how they approach new content
I don't know what that would be though
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>>336881841
The treasure map dungeon and the Deep Dungeon for 3.3 are good steps towards content that isn't just raiding, assuming they don't botch it like they did Diadem. Adding at least one more Trial per patch would be a good idea too, because for non-raiders, Trials/Primals are the only real endgame.
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>WoWfugees first encounter with Ozma will be faceroll content
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>>336882195
>WoWfugees

FFXIV is not Nostalrius.
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>>336882034
Problem is Deep Dungeon ignores your existing gear's strength. They're not going to reward you with actual good shit in content that doesn't need it in the first place.
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>>336882269
It's pretty common to see WoW players move over to XIV because people tell them that the games are very similar
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who /exodus/ here?
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>>336882304
I dont understand why... it will be dead like LoV or Diadem.
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>>336882034

I hope eventually they rework the diadem and make it fun. There's no point in it anymore outside of gathering for relic items.
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>>336882304
anima parts for the next step, maybe
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>>336882034
>treasure dungeons
I'm just curious what they're gonna end up spitting out.
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>>336882568
Ever since 2.2, relic has never involved current content. Maybe in 4.1 they'll make you regrind all of Deep Dungeon or some shit for the new casual weapon grind.

They'll just make you do leveling & 60 roulettes daily for the new not-alexandrite.
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>>336882745
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>>336882745
>it will be 2+ years before this ever sees closure
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>Dead Dungeon
I thought it was Palace of the Dead
Did they rename it for wowfugees
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>>336882912
>4.0 just continues off of 2.55's trail as if nothing happened in 3.0
>the shit swept under the table in 3.0 regarding 2.55's events gets retconned
>still need to beat 3.0 to do 4.0 MSQ for some reason
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>>336883000
Deep Dungeon is the name of the concept, Palace of the Dead is the specific name of the first one they're doing.
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>>336882356
That's a fallacy, and you know it. Get a new boogeyman.
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>>336883138
This guy is right
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>Boss is at 50%
>Healer dies because stupid
>PLD tank keeps entire group alive, even the shitter DRG standing in AoE, until we kill the boss

Welp, I know what tank class I'm leveling.
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>>336882486
Diadem only died because, instead of incentivising exploration and adding new challenges to get people away from Dinosaur Island, they decided to nuke the droprate on i210 gear.

That justifiably pissed people off, and then no one ever ran it again.
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Cat girls are shit. Lalas are best.
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>>336883138

? then why are there so many wow players playing ff14? lol
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>>336883325
We're really not, trust me. Way too many memers.
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>>336883138
Literally (you)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/291854-Coming-from-WoW-Questions-Concerns
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>>336883278

This is why smn is best dps. Amazing aoe to speed up dungeons and back up res in case healer a shit.
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>>336883325
Kill yourself right meow.
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>>336883319
Not to mention if you were a DoL you were essentially forced out of the group because you weren't helping kill dinosaurs.

Oh well, updates are coming 3.3.
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>>336881841
Literally just make EX primal fights worth doing aside from rolling for mounts and that would be a good stopgap.

Also making all the primal fights unlocked at once was retarded because nobody even bothers doing them for clears now. It's wasted content.
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>>336883350
>That's bullshit but i believe it

ffxiv shills
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>>336883418
FFXIV is made up of almost entirely FFXI players and disgruntled ex-WoW players.
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>lvling MNK
>Tank spins the mobs constantly
>Tank puts their backs to walls
>Tank puts their backs to ledges
>Tanks put their backs to AV poison pools
>Tank waits so long running back to the boss' face that it spins and 360noscopes you with a cleave with B4B up while attacking the flank
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>>336883278
>Welp, I know what tank class I'm leveling.
The one with more survivability and self-heals than a PLD?
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>>336883278
WAR or DRK?
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>>336883319
>Event could have encouraged tackling an ever-refreshing list of objectives
>Get a gold chest for every six objectives cleared
>Groups would want folks working the DoL objectives since they're easy, instead of being a waste of space
>Could have had harder objectives that were guaranteed a gold chest that involved all that shit in the caves
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Gave this game an honest try by hitting at least lvl 30. It's just so fucking boring. It reminds me of WoW, but a little prettier.

Also, no big boobs allowed. Had it maxed out and they're still barely a handful.
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>>336883586
Majority of the folks in my FC, my LS, and my static, never touched XI.

Those who were big into XI would have no reason to even play ARR in the first place since it's the Fisher Price of modern MMOs.
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>>336883948
>Also, no big boobs allowed. Had it maxed out and they're still barely a handful.
Majority of body armor ignores breast slider.
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>>336883948
You've just gotta wear the right outfit. Equip one of the crafter coatees and your boobs will grow like two cup sizes.
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>>336883981
I played XI and play XIV

XIV will never be 1/10th as good as XI and YoshiP is a hack, but not worse than the hacks who put together XIV 1.0
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>>336883835
>self-heals
WAR and DRK have self-heals, less than PLD, but no group heals. Without a healer they are fucked through-and-through.
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>>336884141
Yeah I'm sure those 400hp Cures are saving lives, or that Clemency you can only cast twice before going OOM, assuming you didn't get interrupted.
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>>336883487
They can update it as much as they want, the dye has been cast and no one will ever bother with it again.
The same way Gordias Savage has a stigma for being ludicrously hard so no one does it any more.

>>336883494
There's no way to make people want to run EX primals once they have their gear (for iLv or glamour) as things are now.
It'd take a complete overhaul of this game's progression system, like >>336866208 said if for example EX primals dropped some super-awesome materia- and you re-implement elemental weaknesses, to justify farming Leviathan EX for some heavy duty Water materia so you can fight the latest Fire-themed boss.
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Is it me or does this game feel lonely for an MMO?

I'm now starting to realize that aside from FATEs and dungeons there's very little player interaction and most content can be done solo, and even in dungeons or raids most people are silent and just go through it as fast as possible.
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>Hi There! We're a social rank 8 Free Company looking for active fun members to do content with, Veteran and Novice players are welcome!
>500+ members
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>>336884224
Clemency can basically be spammed so long as you're doing nothing but Riot Blade comboes and using Sheltron on cooldown.

WARs have Equilibrium on a 1m cooldown and their other selfheals are worse than those 400 HP cures.

DRKs have that one nice self heal on a long cooldown that is garbage on anything less than 3 mobs.
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>>336884271
Join a party finder or something.
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>>336884297
> Hi we're Faggots, an LGBT FC

Why is this always such a thing for fags, that they have to make everything they do about being fags?
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>>336884297
These FCs do mass searches of online FC-less players and spam invites to them. Basically how WoW used to be when it had guild levels and those ridiculous perks.

You can -always- tell it's one of those guilds if you get an invite without a /tell.
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>>336860084

>continuously throws shield lob at everything, despite being told not to start off with that by me and another player during dungeon

Are you trying to give the impression that the tank is retarded or you are? Because if you're trying to appear retarded, you did it.

He should always start with shield lob.
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>>336884271
That's because there's not much reason to interact with other players aside from trying to get things done and even then, people can be massive cunts.

I told a healer not to run away from the tank if they had aggro and I got kicked for it.
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>>336884413
I've been playing since 2013, and yeah I've done party finder and such and have joined statics when Coil was endgame. Man that was a while ago.
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>>336884524
Whenever I get a /tell with someone saying "Hi There!" like that
I always reply with
>Hi there! No thank you!
Because I know what they're gonna say.
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>>336884432

They just wanna be able to discuss the newest ep of RuPaul's Drag Race without straighty having a meltdown.
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>>336880887
The problem with elemental resistances/weaknesses is that players don't really have much control in terms of what kind of damage they do. Damage is balanced around the assumption you're pumping out your full rotation, so any significant modifiers to that can cause an upset. It is just a consequence of designing a game where playstyles are rigid.

e.g. if you made a boss that was resistant to fire, boom, BLMs are now 110% fucking useless on that fight.
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>>336883503

hope you're not calling me a shill because the game is fucking terrible.

>>336883586

Way to be wrong, this might be true on legacy servers but eveywhere else you're 100% wrong.
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Got out and sold my account for 500 USD because I had all the crafters leveled.

With my sub fees and base game / expansion, I made a 25 dollar profit.

Tidy as fuck.
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>>336884882
Still a waste if you didn't enjoy that time you spent doing it I'd say.
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What's faster for leveling gathering, grinding or levequests?
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>>336884882
Wonder how much I can get for my account with all 60s, i235 main, and 350mil in gil.
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>>336884960
I enjoyed it, but no longer. All my friends quit and this isn't a game that's fun solo. I had no interest in making friends because everyone left was annoying, kinda bad at the game or some flavor of overtly sexual degenerate.
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>>336885007

leves
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>>336871742
I didn't realize someone explaining a fight so you all don't die was google.
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>>336885071
Probably a lot less.

Selling accounts is hard to anyone except gold farmers, and they will only buy your account for dirt cheap. That guy got incredibly lucky finding some fuckhead willing to blow $500 on it.

Also gear doesn't matter. Your shit will become irrelevant in a patch or two.
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>>336885085
>or some flavor of overtly sexual degenerate

So why haven't you quit 4chan yet?
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>>336885071
>and 350mil in gil.
If you are smart, that amount of gil alone can get you 400 to 2k+ dollars depending on the server and the amount of desperate fucks
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>>336885192
Getting hit on by miqo'te most definitely played by fat homosex men is old, and they're all backstabbing drama whores, so they're not even good friends.

4chan's a different flavor of degeneracy and at least lewds posted here are kinda hot instead of desperate and gross.

Do you know what I mean?
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>>336885246
Can only get a lot if you're on a high-pop NA server. Anywhere else is either too desolate to have gilbuyers, or full of Japanese folks.
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>>336883790
If the tank keeps being a fag like that, I tell them to stop being a piss head and learn to tank.
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>80% chance to gather an item
>You obtain nothing.
>You obtain nothing.
>You obtain nothing.
>You obtain nothing.
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>>336882745
>If life has taught me one thing, it is that you never betray your own. I would sooner cut off my own arm than raise a hand against a friend.
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>>336882745
That fucking change to his voice though
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>>336883790
>be MNK
>doing expert
>trying to keep gl3 from pull to pull where i can
>healer tells me to stop pulling
>just before last boss
>healer is not single healing everyone, just not me
>heal myself with second wind + bloodbath + aoe on the packs before boss
>have to do the same minus aoe on last boss
>tell him to stop being passive aggressive while staying alive throughout the fight without him healing me at all even after taking aggro a couple times

it's hard being mnk. i've played though every single dungeon as every role and nothing i do as dps ever bothers me if a dps does it when i'm healer or tank. it's really fucking annoying when people are being pissy ass little faggots for no reason.
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>>336885457
But anon then the tank will just scream hurrrrrrrr my sub i plaay how i want to! and then you get kicked and have to wait another 40 minutes on df.
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>>336884602
Gee, it's almost like grouping with random people is shit and XIV is centered around random queues making the entire game shit. Wow. What a concept.
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>>336885840
>DF all of Midas tonight
>no wipes

New experiences abound
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>>336885587
>favor gathering
>97%
>You obtain nothing.
>You obtain nothing.
>You obtain nothing.
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>>336885818

Healers always have their head so far up their own ass.
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>>336886007
And then you get the odd healer who does more dps than the dedicated dps.
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