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>game severely penalizes you for leaving mid-match

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As it should be.

>B-but MUH STATS
You're retarded.
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>Widowmaker will never drop her hot, steaming logs on your eager, willing face
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>>336826003
>thinking its about stats
>wanting to stay in a lobby where you're getting groundpounded by 3 bastions 2 trollbjorns and a mercy
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>>336825880
Matches rarely last longer than 10 minutes.
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>>336825880
How does it penalize? If it's just exp, who cares about it.
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>>336825880
What is even the penalty? I've left tons of matches and haven't seen anything remotely penalizing
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>>336826841
That is all it is. -75% exp gain for some time

I leave every other match because I know it will be a stomp.
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>>336825880
Question

Does this game look like it has any staying power?

I don't want to buy into another Titanfall seeing that this is basically the same 6v6 but without robots and more wacky abilities.
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>D R O P P E D
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Fuck off.
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>>336825880
>D R O P P E D

And stay away.
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Who gives a shit about some xp penalty.

I leave matches all the time, whenever I see my team is a bunch of retards or when the amount of snipers is >1.
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its made by blizzard, even if its dog shit, there will be people playing for at least 1 year guaranteed
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>>336827105
No. It's fun but it's way overpriced and there's also barely anything to it after the initial enjoyment of the character designs wears off.
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>>336825880
sometimes i doubt your commitment to sparkle motion
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why would you leave the match? You can afk forever and still level up

>Caring about stats in a beta
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Don't be a quitter then
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>>336827105
It has its good moments but it gets boring after a while and you feel like you seen it all.
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Overwatch needs a votekick function
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>>336826172
>getting ground pounded by that shitty comp
jesus fuck this beta is full of underaged
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>>336829082
Caring about fun is why, when your team has nobody leaving the spawn, when they're all shit, when the other team is all Bastion, etc is a good time to leave and find another match.

Idling might "get you exp anyway" but as you said - who fucking cares? I'm not having fun by wasting 15 minutes idling.
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>Play match
>Unable to do anything to counter enemy team
>Teammates telling me to leave the game so someone better can join
>Penalties for leaving the match

wat do?
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>>336827105
I'm not paying over $20 for it
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>>336829210
>Leave last guy to support
>He goes Zenyatta
>"Go mercy she's better"
>"No"
>"X has initiated votekick for Y"

Nah
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>>336825880

Whats the penalty ? Except not getting the match exp ?
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>>336829285
git gud.
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>>336829285
>Letting people online bully you out of a match
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>>336825880

Good a game should punish you for leaving
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>>336829365
>Playing a game like this
>Doing what is best to win
Just have fun with it you nerds.
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If you think rage-quitting should not be punished you need to leave this sub and NEVER EVER return?
Do you understand me?!
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>>336825880
The "penalty" isn't enough. You are scum and should be punished.
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>>336827105
Depends who you ask, but I am bored of it after 2 days. It's fun, but it lacks the "i wanna keep trying" aspect, at least for me. When I get awfully steamrolled, I am just left frustrated.

I expect the community to peak at launch (obviously), but not grow much past that- the new bodies will just replace people who burn out.
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>>336830134
Kill yourself.
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>>336827105
It's a "fun with friends" game that will like every other team oriented game be full of absolute fucking shitters, that'll be made even worse with it being blizzbaby shitters.

General gameplay has very little depth and feels slow as shit even if it's very responsive.
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>>336827105

Played beta for 2 days and just went back to Battleborn. Doom may not be that great, but I can see myself playing that arena shooter a lot longer than OW.
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>>336825880
Good. If you can't commit 10 minutes to a single fucking match, don't play.
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>>336826772
unfortunately the pizza guy won't wait that long.
some times real things happen that require my ass lifting from the couch
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>>336826925
-75% exp for the next match
Not even worth care, just leave whatever you want
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>>336829285
stop being bullied by people on the internet you e-cuck
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>being penalized for leaving mid-match
So can we quit pretending this is an FPS and just admit its another shitty MOBA?
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>"pro" player uses aimbot
>already b&

Feels good man
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>>336832571
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>>336832561
It's really bad actually, you just gain 25% of the exp for the next match you will complete, that's fucking it
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>>336827105
I would play it more if the characters had more weapon choices

Genji just has his shurikens. Nothing else. Zarya just has her cannon thing and nothing else.

What a bore.
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question

what in the graphics settings is makin my shit look all blurry? i put it on low but its makin the game reallly hard to see
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>>336825880
matches only take like 7 minutes
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>>336832571
>fighting the aimbot as it keeps trying to lock on rezzing enemies
Ha!
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>>336832898
render quality.

put it on 100 and not automatic
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>>336832898
everything. Low is just swiming in porrige mode.
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I have the penalty. It's been about 12 matches I've completely and it's still here. It's probably permanent in the beta so it's not the worth the salt.

Don't you worry guys. I'm not defending my actions and having taken plenty of dicks to the face like the scum I am.
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I miss when I could just play games freely and not have to commit to what could be a total slog. Like, with tf2 or Gmod or whatever, if I didn't like the team I was playing with or if something came up, I could just leave and play on a different server or something. But most of the games I'm playing now punish people for leaving. For fighting games it makes sense, they're at worst like 3 or 5 minutes and are almost all going for that e-sports angle. For ASSFAGGOTS it also makes sense because those games are 40-60 minutes long and there's no mid-round joining. But overwatch? A casual, 10-minute shootbang game where people can jump in midgame? It's totally unnecessary. I hope this doesn't become a trend.
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>>336831919
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>>336827105
No. It doesn't have the mechanical depth of TF2 and all the "fun" comedy aspects are watered down blizzard jokes. It might be a success among casuals or casuals playing competitively but it will be boring to watch if you actually give a shit about gameplay.
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Who gives a shit about exp and levels

You shouldn't be punished for leaving since it's just a causal game mode and shouldn't be taken serious but whatever

Bigger problems like how shields slow the game down and ruin fun and how aimbot ultimates are pathetic as fuck and ruin competitive skill :^)
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>>336833740
>less mechanical depth than TF2
when will this meme die?
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>>336833740
you can make some crazy plays with tracer, all other heroes are pretty bland and straight forward tho
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>>336831919
>>336833662
its not really bate

Battleborn is pretty much a moba

and we know by now that moba is like cocaine for some people. The addiction is real
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>>336833862
There is high level soldier and demo play, but otherwise they are similar
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>>336832571
Why are all cheaters fucking sniper mains holy shit? Same shit happened when they put their foot down on TF2 LMAOBox.
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>>336827105
>Asking about buying the game in a shitposting thread.

It's open beta right now, download it and try it for yourself. Stop asking others.
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>>336834156
a sniper that can hs all the time is the most op thing of all times
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At least it's not as retarded as Dota 2. When I was properly playing that my game would sometimes freeze when I loaded into a game. That old ass computer took a while to load back in. I was only playing co-op against bots at that point to learn all the heroes, but for some stupid fucking reason Valve thought it was a good idea to punish people who abandon even during fucking games AGAINST BOTS.
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>>336827105
Had beta since november or so and I got bored after a week. Decided to try again and nothing has changed, it feels like they've made no changes and the game has close to zero longevity.

Boring 1 weapon classes, boring mode and very short maps.
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>>336825880
I fucking hate that shit, sometimes you just gotta go.

it should just reward you for staying not penalize you for leaving
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>>336832217
Then step away from the game? If you were truly good it wouldn't hurt you that much.
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>>336832217
Sucks to be you, then. The other 4 people on your team shouldn't have to suffer because you can't manage your time properly.
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>>336833862
What meme? Look at everyone that has a TF2 equivalent, the TF2 version has way more going on.
>Soldier compared to Pharah
Soldier requires far more skill, has more weapons, no easy rocket jump button.
>engie compared to trojborn
Engie has a real system for upgrading things using scrap instead of just shitting out armor buffs, gets more buildings and his turret has more depth.
>widowmaker vs sniper
She gets more movement options, but her sniper/assault rifle is literally just the TF2 sniper and SMG combined into one and sharing ammo, except she doesn't have the laser for a charge up.
>Medic versus Mercy
She gets more movement options but you never have to balance ubers or worry about charging it, nor is healing done to others effected by how much damage they took recently, you just press one button for instant revive.
>heavy for bastion
Heavy has more tools to use and his minigun requires you to be closer up.
>huntsman versus Hanzo
TF2 sniper has no ult for ez kills and you can't hold down an arrow forever.

You can go into far greater detail about map design and other things but the argument should be obvious if you've ever played TF2 in your life.
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>>336832571
I had a feeling an aimbot was released.

When I'm sitting at level 35 and a level 6 Solider: 76 shoots me down in less than a second flat, you know there is something wrong.

But thank god for Blizzard, they're good at catching cheaters and PoTG only makes catching cheaters even easier.
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IM SO TIRED OF FUCKING LOSING WHY DOES THE MATCHMAKING WORK TO KEEP YOU HOVERING AT 50% WINS HOLY FUCK
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>>336832571
If only Ubishit and Siege caught and banned cheaters I'd be playing that and not a free weekend of this.
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>>336832217
Don't order pizza and then do something that requires a time commitment, fuckhead. Wait until after it comes or something. The game will still be there when you get back.
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>>336834439
There's some things it has benefits with.
It has people who shit around with dual wielding 1887s from MW2.
They got the abomination.
Ninja is pretty cool
That's about it.
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>>336834439
i honestly dont understand all this cirklejerking over muh mechanical depth and i played starcraft for years

are you trying to justify the thousands of hours you spend or why is every hat-simulator fag so upset now
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>>336834714
>are you trying to justify the thousands of hours you spend or why is every hat-simulator fag so upset now
Maybe he got banned INTENTIONALLY BANNED, INTENTIONALLY.
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>>336827105
>Does this game look like it has any staying power?


The game is fun for like 1-2 hours a day and thats about all really.

Sadly the 6v6 limit holds it back by a large amount, matches are short and boring most of the time.

I wish you could at least 15v15 but blizzard is trying to push e-sport into it so yea
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>>336834601
It will never happen, Ubishit and ESL opened the flootgates by not even temporarily suspending Clever. They fucked up and now the game is going to suffer unless they take some drastic action ASAP.
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>>336834147
don't get me wrong TF2 is fantastic and has tons of depth.
but so does overwatch.
like comparing the 2 medics for examle mercy and tf2 medic.
mercy has to keep Line of sight to dash to friendlys and heal them up.
you have a projectile based pistol (no hitscan) kinda like the medic.
you gotta know when to heal and when to give damage boost.
gotta find good revives wich can be tough, sometimes having to let friendlys die on purpose.
and so on.
and this can be said about most TF2 classes that have an overwatch equivalent.
>>336834439
soldier rocketjumping is indeed more fun and harder, however "has more weapons" is a shitty comparison since they added those later, and comparing a beta game to a 10 year old one in regards to content seems unfair
torbjorn has a more interesting gun and combining the getting scrap mechanic with armor buffs is nice.
widowmaker is just the TF2 sniper with mines and a hook, sounds like more mechanics to me
bastion requires positioning and stuff, plus his ult is a tank with rocketjumps, pretty fun

and then ya know... Overwatch also has a bunch more classes,wich isn't necessarly better but certainly adds more depth to the games team comps and stuff like that.
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>>336834714
What circlejerking? I'm just saying Overwatch is in many ways a casualized equivalent to TF2. I haven't even touched TF2 in years, just here to talk about vidya gameplay not defend anything. TF2 is slow quake anyways, but at least the limited classes means there's better synergy which leads to fun semi competitive modes like 6v6. Overwatch will porbably achieve something similar once everyone figures out how to use the characters and if a game mode is introduced that allows bans in multiplayer.
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>>336827105
Yeah its fun. I want to do nothing but play Overwatch right now. Lots of character variety, stylish and colourful visuals. If you like TF2 you'll like this.
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>>336834998
>mercy has to keep Line of sight to dash to friendlys and heal them up.
But you don't.
You can dash backwards if you're healing someone. It doesn't look natural so it throws people off
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>start playing last night
>pick my hero
>"hurr nope here's a random hero instead"
>die cause I don't know what im doing
>press H to pick my hero
>"hurr durr here's another random one"
>no choice but to leave

Who are the fucking braindead retards responsible for coding this shit? What's the point of picking my hero that I practiced with if I'm just gonna get a random one each match? What a shitty game. At least I didn't put money into it.
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>>336835238
Don't play the brawl gamemode, you have to be retarded to pick the game mode that is like far away from the other ones.
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>>336834468
>PoTG
What
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>>336827105
It's a completely soulless cashgrab.
Buyer's remorse and waifus will keep some player base but it's bound to go F2P sooner or later.
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>>336825880
But then you'll get penalized.
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>>336835238
>baiting this hard
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>>336835238
(You)
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>>336834607
We're talking about an arcade shooter, not fucking heart surgery, anon.
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>>336835375
never gonna go f2p retard its blizzard even sc1 isnt free

and they spent years and shit-ton of marketing on this, it wont go free. especially because they sold a shit-ton
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>>336825880
does that happen when you joined mid-game too?
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>>336835352
Play of the game. That thing that happens after every match that shows something awesome from the player's perspective, to every player in the match.

In other words, if you were aimbotting, it'll be blatantly obvious to 9 other people.
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>>336835352
Play of the game
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>>336828891
>but it's way overpriced
it's 40$

If you can't pay 40$ for a AAA new release then you need to find a new hobby or get a job.

I'm not saying it is worth your 40$, but if you think 40$ is "too expensive" then you are a fucking loser.
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>>336827105

It's a Blizzard game so yes.
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>>336834439
u mad

>Soldier requires far more skill, has more weapons, no easy rocket jump button.
As a Solider main, Solider requires FAR LESS skill. In TF2, splash damage does a SHITLOAD of damage. In OW, it does maybe 20-30 damage tops which ain't shit. You have to be good at hitting people in the face with rockets with Pharah. I'll give you the rest though, even though her ez modo rocket jump serves as a flanking ability which is needed.

>Engie has a real system for upgrading things using scrap instead of just shitting out armor buffs, gets more buildings and his turret has more depth.
Who cares if he gets more buildings? All that does is encourage camping, where as mister born can re-position at a moments notice for tactical gameplay. But like it matters he's shit tier. Also more =/= better.

>She gets more movement options, but her sniper/assault rifle is literally just the TF2 sniper and SMG combined into one and sharing ammo, except she doesn't have the laser for a charge up.
I'll give you that, except her charge up is an indicator, same shit.

>She gets more movement options but you never have to balance ubers or worry about charging it, nor is healing done to others effected by how much damage they took recently, you just press one button for instant revive.
Her ult is technically her "uber" which you have to time well. It also has line of sight issues. The one with the real uber is Zenyetta. Mercy is a hellova lot more complicated than Medic.

>Heavy has more tools to use and his minigun requires you to be closer up.
I don't see how these classes are similar, ones great for assualting, the other is a camping faggot. Just because they both have miniguns doesn't mean they're the same.

>TF2 sniper has no ult for ez kills and you can't hold down an arrow forever.
TF2 Huntsman doesn't need an ult considering how the arrows still magically fly into peoples heads.

A lot of these grievances are pretty minor aniki.
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>>336834468
Soldier 76 has a legit aimbot though
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>>336834156
Snipers do more damage when they hit the head in 99% of games featuring them, an aimbot makes you only hit the head.
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>>336828605

This. I always leave when my team can't even cap first point and I see widows or Hanzos doing nothing and missing every shot
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>>336825880

>leaving a match only affects shitty cosmetics
>severely penalizes you
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>>336835769
>"I've got you in my sight!"
>hide behind a pillar
>wait 3 seconds
>peak and kill / rush him
it's not that hard guys, just gotta get used to the audio queues.
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If you do so intentionally, it should.

If you're kicked off by forces outside of your control, it shouldn't.
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>>336835238
>I'm gonna make the lowest level bait ever seen.
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>>336835709
my thought exactly.

>>336834439
You do know this game has
>A B I L I T I E S
>B
>I
>L
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stop trying to compare them.
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>>336829161
this is especially true if you're the kind of player that doesn't want to learn all 21 classes.
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>>336832571
Why is this game so choppy?

It feels like it had 20 framrate
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>leaving in the middle of a five minute match
The only reason you would do this is to be a faggot.
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>there are people who main soldier 67
How can you be so boring person
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>>336836110
>caring
It's not a fighting game that requires mechanical skill or a MOBA that requires major time investment for a single match, it's a TF2 knockoff and essentially a party game. There is no reason to have a penalty.
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Matches last like 10 minutes at most. Just grind it out and try your best rather than being a little bitch.
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>>336834870
tf2 and counter-strike competitive are for small teams, but the games still allow custom games because Valve isn't 100% retarded.

Blizzard should seriously stop trying to go esport this. They should relize by now that starcraft broodwar was a complete fluke.
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>>336835929
>"IT'S HAAAAAH NOOOOOON"
>everyone but the retards clear out
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>>336836110

It's casual queue, who gives a fuck. Only ranked queue should punish players for leaving.
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>>336836228
>game is casual as fuck
>only 10 minutes for a match
>pick whatever
>have a good time no matter winning or losing
haven't had this feeling in a long time, only thing that could make it better would be dedicated servers with higher playercounts just in case you want that.
game is very relaxing though and losses never make me rage.
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>>336836225
>jump into a match
>get butt mad about getting beat by the other team
>drop the match and try to jump into a new one where you stand a better chance
>fuck over your team and leave the match uneven
Nah fuck you, nigger.
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>>336835929
>It's okay for things to be OP if they say a one liner before hand
Well that makes the wall hacking dragon so much better since he screams moon runes at you doesn't it?
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75% exp penality?

why would that be a bad thing?
Don't you get matched to harder people the more you level up? what's even the point?
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>>336836328
When people bail out like that it makes the match less fun for the people left on the uneven team. What reason do you have for bailing that would consistently happen?
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>>336836225
Have you been discouraged from leaving future matches and to not be so much of a shitter?

The penalty has done it's job.
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>>336836636
>getting hit by the dragon
>ever
GIT better
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>>336836493
Nice logic.
>get fucked over
>one player gets assmad and leaves
>this results in the team getting fucked over because the one person left
You can't think of a single reason to penalize players. If the player that gets assmad is forced to stay and AFKs for the rest of the match, it's the same result, so why does it matter in the slightest if they leave? For all you know, an actual good player could join and turn the tide, but nope, gotta slog through the remaining 6 minutes instead of having fun playing the game.
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>>336836636
It does though. Step like 3 feet to the side when you hear it.
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>>336836649
>what's even the point?


There is no point overall, if your team sucks the game can be over in 5mins more or less

Like a anon said a game last max 10mins
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>>336828891
i played TF2 day one sonny boy.
this game has way more depth than what TF2.1 has stacking hats and p2w items instead of matching team compositions and timing abilities, gee i cant rocket jump in this game. its junkrats shift and pharahs. gee i cant blend in as a spy(no game will ever get spys like tf2 :(
ge i wanna be an engy, pick the short red fucker

they are gonna make new champs all the time. its an excuse to make dps champs for heroes of the storm and since they have two MOBAs now blizz is gonna push the twitch audience into watching half assed world series'

you cant say tf2 is more complex thats fking autistic. is the vanilla tf2 better than overwatch. at its time yes, now side by side, nah. but do i respect overwatch hell fking no it was supposed to come out free 1 year ago at least. and they only added 3 champs since they announced 3 years ago
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>>336836649

Levels are pretty much meaningless. In closed beta, ranked queue grouped players based more on rank than level. It's probably going to chance, but the exp penalty isn't a very strong deterrent.
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>>336836789
see >>336836821
AFKing in the middle of a match or leaving has the exact same result, so why is one punished and the other isn't? Your inconsistency is idiotic, and for the sole reason you perceive some imaginary slight against you.
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>>336836649
you get loot boxes as you level up, and some people really want those loot boxes

otherwise yeah its pretty pointless
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>>336836821
Pretend you were having a fun game of ball with your pals at the park.
Eric decides the team has already lost so chucks a tantrum, tel everyone to kill themselves and then leaves the ballpark.
The team is now down one fielder making it a much harder, unbalanced game which is now less fun for both teams.

Good job Eric, you cockmongler.
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HOL UP

Are we having a serious discussion whether punishing leavers is good or bad? For real?
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>>336836981
AFK players get kicked after a couple of minutes, it happened while I made a drink. Don't be spreading your shitter lies around here.
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>>336837127
No
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>>336836789
This right here. It's not something you should do on the regular so you're punished to remind you not to.
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>>336834439
Why don't we compare vanilla TF2 to vanilla Overwatch? After thousands of hours in TF2 I still feel like Overwatch has more going on in it.
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>>336825880
then play an unranked match you scrub. halo 2 was like that and it came out 12 years ago
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>>336825880
Matches only last 5 minutes anyway
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>>336837127
in casual unranked mode where they get replaced pretty fast by the next loser.
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Place your bets lads

I give it one year from launch until it goes F2P
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>>336837058
my name is eric but with a k

glad i dont monger the cock. i finish my games
beat 3 koreans this morning that were on coms
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>>336837058
Read the 2nd part of my post. Here, I'll even add it on to your analogy.
After Eric leaves, Greg joins the match. Greg is practically a professional ball player. Greg joining the game suddenly turns the tide in the favor of the team that had Eric, and Greg's team is now making a comeback; they could even win, and the game is an even competition, which is fun. If Eric was forced to stay, he would just sit and have a temper tantrum and this could never happen, and the result would be the same whether Eric was in-game having a temper tantrum or if Eric left the game and his team was down a player.
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>>336836821
ITT shitters justify their terrible ways

So far the game seems fun and if it discourages little fags like you, I may actually buy it.
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>>336837215
>noone ever plays tc_Hydro
those were the days back when people hated badlands, but badlands and granary were the shit in competetive play.
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>>336837127
even leauge of legends dota and cs go end up really shitty about 70% of the time, so like if everyone leaves fk it just give the enemy a win what does it matter that the gay ass timer runs out on a 5v2
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>>336837337
Good effort but the flaw is already in your second sentence, pretending like your leaving always causes a pro player to join and save the team.
Stop trying to salvage your shitter ways.

Every time you leave a match you make 11 other people think you are a dickhead. That's all there is to it.
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>>336829285
I'd suggest staying away from CSGO if you can't handle shit like that because it's literally cancer compared to what you described.
>team can vote kick you even if you are top frag
>team can collectively shoot you until you have 1hp at the beginning of the round
>If someone toxic is playing with their friends you are shit out of luck because you can't kick them
>If someone on your team is griefing and that's the reason you lost the game you still get deranked
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>>336837168
>be AFK for 2:59
>move left slightly
>no longer AFK
>still in match, still doing nothing, still receive no penalty
>this is better than letting a player leave halfway through
OK

>>336837368
nice lack of counterargument, you still haven't pointed out a single reason why you should punish people that leave. I'm waiting for one reason. >falling for reverse-shilling in 2016
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Honestly, healers should be nerfed and a a lot more medipacks should be added to the maps
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>game prides itself on being non-competative and casual
>matches like 8-10 minutes, short rounds compared to CSGO, LOL and DOTA where leaving severtly hurts the team, and wastes their time
>overwatch punishes you for leaving
>you get replaced by another player within a minute

Blizzard can fuck right off, fucking idiots.
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How badly? I had to bail from a KOTH match after the first round because of real life and now I'm afraid to go back
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>>336837384
I loved Badlands personally. Granary is meh, way too small and lame. Goldrush where it was at though. I still think vanilla TF2 was the best version of the game. MAYBE even the first update but after that it went to shit.
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>more than 1 of any hero
Leave
>huge level difference between teams
Leave
>known players at all in the game
Leave

This game needs solo queue so bad. The maps are already stale and KOTH is pure cancer that I wish I could avoid. Every map is meatgrinder shit and waiting for ultimates to push, or a pure stomp

Fastest match was 2 minutes, we just sat on the payload the entire match.
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>>336837532
See, that's where you're intentionally pretending to be retarded, or, Allah help you, actually are retarded: if Eric can leave and someone else can join, the result of the match can change. If Eric is not allowed to leave, the result will always be the same. You're saying you should always decide a match within the first 3 minutes of the game, and that there should never be a chance for a weaker team to get a player that can help them come back. Why not just play a MOBA? You get more game time that way.
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>>336825880

So here's what gets me laughing about faggots like you who drop out.

You NEVER improve. Because if you are fighting against people more skilled than yourself, you have to learn how to beat them by trial and error.

Instead, you drop out, go to the next pubscrub game and stomp noobs while screaming "GIT GUD" and touching yourself thinking you're some gaming god.

I love a challenge. As I get older and have less time for games I enjoy my ability to drastically improve, quickly. I don't want to run around going 40 and 2 or whatever when they close games feel exciting, and I sure as fuck don't drop out of matches when someone is legitimately more skilled than me.

tl;dr OP is, as always, a faggot.
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>>336834439
whats the point of playing a moba inspired shooter without moba themes like ults and shit,

class base shooters and mobas are different
every champ has some kind of instakill button so whats the big idea bitch. but i do feel if they try to balance these characters in any way its gonna fuck up the only thing it has going for it

also rip arena shooters, :(
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>>336837765
Which mode is KOTH?
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>>336825880
>In a game where you can be thrust into a match mid fight
>You get a penalty for leaving
>In a game where you gain no stats over time, no gold, no items, no player investment
>You get a penalty for leaving
>Blizzcucks are defending this

I thought this was supposed to be better than TF2? Why does it keep falling short in features TF2 did better?
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>>336837896
The one thats best of 3 where theres one cap point that both teams fight over.
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>>336837896
king of the hill
dammit bobby
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>>336837896
Single point, first team to win 2 rounds wins

Its ALWAYS 99% OVERTTIIIMME and the other team also gets 99% and its just throwing bodies till someone with an ult wipes the other team
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McCree is fucking garbage holy shit
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>>336835116
>>336827105

I fucking hate TF2 but can't stop playing this game. So good. I play a few games close it to do something else and then open it back up for a few matches. Repeat.
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>>336837337
>Read the 2nd part of my post. Here, I'll even add it on to your analogy.
>After Eric leaves, Greg joins the match. Greg is practically a professional ball player. Greg joining the game suddenly turns the tide in the favor of the team that had Eric, and Greg's team is now making a comeback; they could even win, and the game is an even competition, which is fun. If Eric was forced to stay, he would just sit and have a temper tantrum and this could never happen, and the result would be the same whether Eric was in-game having a temper tantrum or if Eric left the game and his team was down a player.
At the end of the day eric is a little shitter and should be penalized other than that who really gives a fuck what happens in non comp game play
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>>336837773
The result of the match will never change if you were originally getting shit on. It's a 50/50 in the first place weather the new player is any good or not. You are using that excuse to justify leaving.

If you try harder and wait it out YOU YOURSELF can be the difference between winning and losing.
I've had many games where the enemy team blaze the first two checkpoints, but get stuck at the final point where we hold them back for 6 minutes. If any of us left at that last point, we would have 100% lost the game.

Stop being a shitter.
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>>336838032
i mean if you paid 40 dollars or 60 on console, you should be able to fuck a live corpse on stream and not get banned
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>>336837879
>Implying it has anything to do with skill

I got a shit connection you nig nog. When I drop out because I'm playing on a toaster in TF2, nobody gives a shit. My slot gets filled and life goes on.

This cuck game wants to be an ASSFAGGOT so it tries to promote this shitty mentality where winning is everything, even in random scrub matches.
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>>336838285
Maybe you should fix your shit rather than blaming the dev's for implementing a RQ policy.
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>>336838223
but not eric with a k right guys?
right?
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>>336838489
omg i saved a thumbnail fuck my life that webm was the best
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>>336836075
Yea man that webm is exactly how the game is!
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>>336838223
At the end of the day, who gives a fuck if Eric is a shitter, you'll forget about him the minute the next match starts and if the game has a healthy population, you'll never see him again. If he quits partway through it doesn't matter as long has he gets replaced. You'd WANT him gone if he was micspamming as well as shitting up the game, so why shouldn't he be allowed to leave of his own volition so people that actually enjoy the game can play in peace?

>>336838225
>The result of the match will never change if you were originally getting shit on
>I've had many games where the enemy team blaze the first two checkpoints, but get stuck at the final point where we hold them back for 6 minutes.
I don't play guessing games, which one of these is the truth? Because you can't have it both ways.
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>>336838393
It's a shit policy, son. You know it is.
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>>336836890
>>336836818
>don't have any idea where he might have shot it from
>goes through walls and has stupid range and width
>lol just avoid it
Or maybe they need to not have a wall hacking area of effect
sure he telegraphs it with the yell
That doesn't mean it isn't a fucking wall hacking aoe in an FPS game. There is no amount of yelling that makes that okay
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>buying modern games on release
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>>336838670
He is allowed to leave he just gets penalized for it maybe eric shouldn't be such a shitty person if he's leaving games and micspamming and shit.
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>>336838393
10/10, stupidest post I've read in an overwatch thread. I'm impressed you managed to fill out the captcha.
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>>336834998
Except even at launch, each character in TF2 had more weapons and more skill. Tracer is a joke compared to the Scout and Pharah is basically playing a nerfed Solider with rocket jump scripts.

Overwatch might have more characters but TF2 gives each character actual depth and thus the game is more fun to play and interesting once players have learnt all the matchups. Don't forget that this isn't even a beta since certification takes longer than the 15 days from the end of the beta till the launch.
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games aren't even that long

just play the shit out for fucks sake, or just go ahead and drop it and woopee you got -75% exp the next match
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>>336838695
Hey maybe wrap your mind around this if you got shitty internet maybe you shouldn't play multiplayer games that require stable internet for a period of time or fix yo shit.
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My question is, why is anyone defending this? Why are you celebrating the loss of control of your shitty video games? Are you really so dedicated to body blocking any shit flung at your game of choice that you'll eat shit to spite the "Enemy"?

Just some food for thought. This policy benefits no one and discourages drop in drop out gameplay that these games were made for. It's only there to make it feel like a MOBA.
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>>336838806
Penalizing him will make him stay in the match and spend the entire game ruining it for his entire team. If he's allowed to leave freely, he won't ruin the game for his entire team because someone else will replace him, so the teams won't be unbalanced for long. Why is this a hard concept to understand?
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>>336829285
speaking from personal experience as a salty bitch, when someone says "it's my teammate's fault for being so shit that we lost" just means "I know I'm shit but I refuse to admit it."
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>>336827105
Not really. I'm already pretty bored of it.
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>>336838776
you're all complaining about hanzos ult which takes forever to charge when roadhog can instakill every 6 seconds and overheal 300 every 10? i sat through 2 ults eating an orange,
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>>336838810
Finally getting some fucking recognition around here all those years of shitposting finally coming to fruition.
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>>336838926
It is. A shit. Policy.

You got nothing else to say than neither do I.
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>>336832571

>using aimbot
>in a game where one of the character's ults is already to aimbot

u wot m8
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So is this a fun, tolerant, engaging community like TF2? Or is it a shitty, overly-meta, angry community like LoL?
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>>336838806
cant we just call him greg or like jacob
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>>336825880
>price keeps spics and slavs away
>leaver penalty for the useless shitters looking to get carried
And thus the dragon named Team Fortress 2 was slain once and for all.
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>>336839116
They want the ASSFAGGOTS audience. Take a wild guess.
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>>336834156
Use yer brains moran.
Sniper and scout are kinda the only classes that benefit from an aimbot because they use hitscan weps.
solli/demo - projectiles
heavy/pyro - aim not that important
engi/medick - their primary abilities is building shit/healing
spy - knife mostly

I played ~700h of tf2 and only met cheater twice, both snipers. Both delusional as fuck, too.
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>>336839107
Well not that particular character.
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>>336838626
but the tick rate is indeed 20.
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>>336838951
It doesn't make him stay you simply can't join a different lobby to shit that one up till the first is done.
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>>336832217
>couch
lol
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>>336825880
>Leave a match because it's shit
>"Penalty Lol"
>Queue up for a match, get put in a game that's already lost and ten seconds away from the end
>"Lol that's just how it goes"

Who defends this?
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>>336838798
nothing wrong with that, preordering digitaly would be retarded on the other hand
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>>336835769
It wasn't his ult. The killcam showed him straight up following me through the wall, then when I peaked the corner he gunned me down in less than a second.

It don't matter though, when the games free for a few days, you're gonna get lots of hackers and BR's.
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>>336839191
Most of the comp players banned using lmaobox or whatever were snipers too weren't they?
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Is there any plans for dedicated servers and 12v12 or 16v16?
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>>336839339
Anyone getting caught in new game hype is a tool
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>>336839098
You never had anything to say.
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>>336825880
>lose a match because 2 members are dead weight
>SaltMaster69: YOU FAGS ARE THE W O R S T OW PLAYERS OF ALL TIME HOLY SHIT
>SaltyMaster68 has left
>AlwayzAFK has left
>reasonable1dan has joined
>TracerMain has joined
>win next 6 matches with that team
>on match 7, SaltMaster joins opponent team
>spend the entire match assassinating him
>drop a winky face on him each kill
>he leaves halfway through
Why is every loudmouth idiot always so terrible?
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>>336839402
I think the maps are too small to truly support them. Shame because they're also too long from the spawn to the final point as well.
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>>336839379
Yep
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>all of these people complaining about price, saying the game should be f2p or is dead in a year

A BLIZZARD GAME

DEAD

AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT

LOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL
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>>336827105
If it was on steam, I'd buy it on sale. But otherwise, it's boring as fuck and not worth the price and literally the only reason it's not gonna die is brand name recognition and that Blizzard is going to throw money at it constantly to keep it afloat.
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>>336839368
The sniper and huntsman classes can give their teammates wallhacks. Maybe it was that.
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>>336839537
>Doesn't realise he's literally just bad by taking the time to tell his stories about how much better he is on an anonymous imageboard where everyone lies and he'll never receive recognition for his tale
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>tfw I'm already bored of the game after 8 hours of playing

So many unfun things take away from the fun things. Overpowered ultimates, shitty maps, terrible fucking movement alongside the most seizure inducing explosions and flashing bulbs of light.
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>>336839670
lol theres always palladins
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>>336838140
This is factually incorrect.
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>want to practice some Symmetra
>can't find a way to justify picking her over one of the other supports

i just wanna drop teleporters. What can i do to not be a useless piece of shit to my team outside of providing a teleporter that most people ignore? I feel like she has some potential i've yet to tap into.
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>>336839191
Another important aspect is that it's easier to hide when playing sniper. If we take TF2 as an example, a heavy using aimbot would be extremely effective but also very obvious with all the snap movements and shit. Scoped in snipers that enable their aimbot momentarily with a key and faking "flickshots" are much harder to spot. Which is evident by so many comp players actually being revealed as hackers.
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>>336839537
Not even kidding here, the loudest person on the team in any game is always the absolute worst. I've never seen any exceptions.
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>>336839168
There is no leaver penalty though, wow -xp gain big fucking deal.

I leave so many games in this, maybe Blizzard shouldn't lop solo queue players into people grouping
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>>336834346
Don't play a competitive game in which a team relies upon you if you can't sit down for 10 minutes without your mom calling you into the other room for dinner
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>>336839824
Aside from teleporters, her turrets are meant to harass or flat out destroy people who try to flank your team. Play her sort of like a Gunslinger Engineer, she's an offensive Supporter.
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>>336839712
>SHUT THE FUCK UP FAKE FAKE FAKE YOU NEVER WIN YOU CANT WIN
That isn't even a bait post dude, calm down. You don't have to try so hard to fit in.
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>>336840262
Just pointing out the fact it's funny you're still so salty and don't even realise it.
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>>336839712
Why would you greentext this post?
Are you just addicted to meme arrows?
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>>336839712
>lol ur mad
Nice bait, if this was still 2002.
Flamebait is a bannable offense. Friendly reminder to report obvious bait posts and sage any response you make to it.
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Amazing how /v/ is the only place that's bored of Overwatch already. You guys just need to stop taking shit so seriously and have fun.
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>>336840778
How can I have fun with Overwatch if it's already boring
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>>336840836
Why is it boring for you?
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>>336840778
That's pretty much one of the few qualities of /v/.
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I don't like the focus on cooldown-based abilities over tools and weapons for an objective-based first person shooter. It just feels like I'm missing a huge part of a given character's role until that stupid bar fills up. Just feels like they're limiting themselves by deciding everyone has to have some super noticeable feel-good moment when you press Q. Look at TF2, you're switching between tools and weapons, firing one direction, repositioning, using your specialized role in different ways at all times.
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>>336839926
I always type a lot in chat, but it's just to call out enemies in locations or compliment someone's clever play. If I want to be negative I just keep it to myself and set the player to mute or Avoid.
I am haunted by the fear that saying more increases my shit coefficient.
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>>336825880
>team based game
>just wants to play rounds where he gets carried

You're as bad as those guys who switch to the winning team mid match just to win even though their kda is laughable
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>>336840971
>taking games too seriously
>a quality
No. /v/ is just bitter at everything and anons feel like they have to shitpost and be a critic about every single little thing.
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>>336840778
Overwatch has more breadth than depth in terms of classes and mechanics. They have over 20 characters and they have to make them all different or they seem redundant, but there's only so many mechanics you can put into a game. So they spread them out and you get more shallow characters for it.
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>Ults are just different variations of free kills

What lol
Even League does balance better than this game
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>>336841007
Well that's different, trying to communicate and help, people like that are generally a-ok. It's when you're noisy as fuck and contribute to nothing, that's the red flag indicating the worst player on the team.
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>>336841180
Go to literally any other site if you want to participate in collective fellatio of the latest hyped AAA game.
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>>336841224
>shallow characters
The fuck are you expecting from an arena shooter?
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>>336827105
>Does a Blizzard game have "staying power"

If anyone here says 'No', they're fucking retarded.

/v/ may not like it, but it's going to stay.
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>>336840942
That I only like one character and that's Junkrat
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>>336841330
Everyone gets a price! No need to be skilled, skill-based mechanics discriminate against unskilled players
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>>336841330
>free kills

sounds like someone needs to git gud
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>>336841396
>I hate ti because people are talking about it!
And this is why /v/ is shit. You kids who can't like anything because it's popular have to shitpost in threads. Why does something existing piss you off so much?
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>no custom maps
>no dedicated servers
>ults are free win buttons an whoever has the better ults wins

The game would lose absolutely nothing if every ult was gone.
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>>336841485
And you've tried out the other 20 characters? Because it doesn't sound like it.
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>>336841552

It's not so much that they are free kills, It's just impossible to track who has ultimate and who doesn't.

In tf2 you track one person's "ultimate" and that is the medic. In Overwatch you don't know if the s76 you're facing sas aimbot or not. You really don't know ANYTHING about the opponent you're facing until he one shots you.
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>>336827105
I thought it did until i got garbage teams 10 times in a row. For better or worse the game is very teamwork dependant and when team is decent it's tons of fun, but when it isn't my god the frustration.
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>>336841626
Who are you quoting?
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>>336841637
teles are pretty useful
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>>336841626
Not to mention half the threads are just blogging about waifus and porn dumps, then /v/ loses its shit when people make another thread to actually talk about the game.
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>>336825880
>it's a /v/ shits on Overwatch during the day episode
>coming up next, a /v/ praises Overwatch during the night episode
Every. Fucking. Day.
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>>336841778
Newfag.
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>>336841878
Because the kiddies go to bed. Night /v/ is always better. The kids are too pissed that they to spend money on a video game for once in their life.
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>>336841892
Please be bait
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>>336839223

>tick rate=fps

Kill yourself
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>>336827105
It won't completely sink because Blizzard carries its name and its loads of cash, plus the waifufags are gonna' be all over it, but I can't see it being anything more than a footnote. Not a total flop like HotS but nothing that will keep people talking about it for more than a handful of months.
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>>336841892
The irony
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>>336841845
To replace tele, you just make everyone not slow as fuck. Everyone move too fucking slow.

BLIZZARD BALANCE
>Widow's SMG is stronger than Soldier76s rifle
but its okay because she also has a 150 damage bodyshot rifle and wallhacks and a mine that does 75 damage and a grappling hook
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>>336841552
>Roll this ball into the enemy and detonate
>Free kill
>Throw this grenade
>Free kill
>Blow up this robot
>Free kill
>Fire this dragon
>Free kill
>"DIE DIE DIE!
>Free kill
>Literally an autoaim for an Ult
>Free kill

Hahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Free Kill Not Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Use Your Ult Like Nigga Just Press This One Key Haha
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penalize how? if it's just number statistics that don't affect gameplay it literally does not matter, stop being a child
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>>336842003
>>336842096
I'm glad you learned how to use memes anon. You're slowly growing up into a true shitposter.
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