Just got these 2 bad boys.
Which should I play first?
Ds3 so you can finish off by playing somthing better with bb.
dark souls 2
>>336823754
Whichever one you do play, you're going to have a hard time rolling into the other.
Dark Souls 1 for the tenth time
Dark Souls 3 is the hot shit right now, so I'd play that first so you can do multiplayer stuff while it's very active.
BB first, so you can enjoy the improvements ds3 made
>>336823754
DaS3, cause BB gonna destroy your ass if it's your first soulsborne
>>336823754
Dark Souls 3 first so you don't get even more disappointed when finishing it
>>336823754
Play DS3 first and save the best for later.
>>336823938
I'm not an MP kind of guy, I like more PvE.
Is magic viable to do a first PvE run?
>>336823754
BB first, save the best for later.
DaS3 is easier
so go with that one
>>336824053
is not my first soulsborne, I completed DaS and dropped DasII.
>>336823754
>spending your hard earned cash on video games
kek
>>336824142
>is magic viable in pve?
Your bare damn fists are viable in pve. "Viable" isnt even a word to use in pve in a game where you can dodge.
DaS3
it's shorter because no DLC, and BB is so good it'll taint your experience
DS3 is great and all, but BB is Miyazaki's MAGNUM OPUS, nothing can compare. So play BB after you're done with DS3 so you may compare everything BB did better.
>>336824559
this
>>336824354
BB is easier than DS3 anyway. just play them in release order and save yourself the trouble
>>336824387
>Don't have GF
>Don't have friends
>My expenses are Rent and electricity
>doing a no fap year
I'm a loser with a good job anon.
>>336824559
this x2
bb since playing it after das3 will be lackluster
Bb is easier so you can get used to the gameplay
The real fight begins with das3
>>336824589
Sonygger: the post
Please off yourself.
DaS3 is a bridge between DaS's slow, defensive combat and BB's fast, offensive combat
so probably go with that
>>336823754
i was in a similar position a month ago. I started with DS3 first. now i'm going through BB and honestly its the better game. so save the best for last
>>336823754
start with bloodborne
that way you'll go all "awww this is limited to one playstyle" and be a tank in ds3
>>336825009
PCCuck: the butthurt
Please buy some cream.
>>336825126
I'm idort though. BB is great but it's overrated as hell and certainly no masterpiece.
>>336823754
They're both great, but the online for DS3 will never be as active as it is right now
>>336823754
> buying rehashed shit
Literally worst than nintendo drones
BB would be seen as fairly mediocre if it wasn't an exclusive
You'll probably be pretty disappointed if you actually believe the advice in this thread
>>336823754
Both at the same time. Beat one boss in one game, then beat one in the other one. I suggest starting with 3 since the tutorial boss is easy as shit.
>>336825350
>BB would be seen as fairly mediocre if it wasn't an exclusive
What? The vast majority of criticism against it is that it's exclusive and limited by the hardware.
@336825326
no (You) for you but you are a faggot at making bait
>>336823754
BB because it won't feel great after DaS3.
BB is also shorter so you can finish it fast and get to the main attraction faster.
>>336824559
This HOLY SHIT PLEASE DO IT
AGGGHH I'M CUMMIN
>>336823754
>Roll Souls III
Play Blood Borne
>>336823754
Start with DS3. You'll enjoy BB a lot more, but they're both great.
>>336826251
>shorter
Has this been confirmed? I played both and had like 36 hrs in vanilla BB (without Cainhurst nor Chalices) and 32 hrs in DS3 after my first playthrough.
>>336826961
>Roll Souls
As opposed to Dashborne?
>>336823754
BB because it's the better game.
Bloodborne was my first soulsborne... after that every other game was easy cake including DaS3
>>336827363
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=21262
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=26803
Bloodborne is longer according to these.
>>336827363
I found it way easier than the souls games so I just flew through it in around 20 hours my first time through. DaS3 took me around 40 hours to beat on my first playthrough.
So I guess it depends which one you find easier.
>>336827994
Jesus christ people are slow at video games.
>>336828194
>rushing through the first playthrough
>not taking time to taking all inBeastly idiocy, indeed.
>>336823754
man that's fucking overkill. shoulda bought one and played the shit out of it then the other. they're both games you'll get hundreds of hours out of.
anyway i'd go with das3 first since it's brand new right now and it's as active as it's ever been. only go to bb when you're totally satiated with it... which if you're me will take at least 500 hours.
man I'm fucking jealous of you dude. you've got two fuck awesome games that you've never played before and are gonna give you hundreds of hours of great gameplay.
>>336827994
Bloodborne is longer with DLC. First Bloodborne playthrough(with DLC) took me 30 hours. DaS3 took me about 25 hours. However, my second BB playthrough took 20 hours, and my second DaS3 playthrough took 23 hours.
DaS3 so that it doesn't leave a bad aftertaste in your mouth , because that's how it feels after Bloodborne
>>336827994
BB has DLC. The main game is shorter.
>>336828416
I found nearly every area in BB so bland that I didn't really want to stick around. Exceptions being Cainhurst and Mergo's Wet Dream.
It's criminal how short Cainhurst was.
>>336828796
Those howlongtobeat stats for Bloodborne were there long before the DLC came out. Nice try though.
>>336828539
>>336828796
Nope
That's the base game
Old Hunters playtime is polled separately
Scroll down and click on the Old hunters hyperlink under the Extra content section
>>336824639
>BB is easier than DS3 anyway
Wrong. Only Souls game easier than DaS3 is DeS.
>>336828941
>It's criminal how short Cainhurst was.
We agree on one thing
>>336823754
Start with DS3. Its a great game, but Bloodborne is on a whole other level. Keep the best for last
>>336828941
Central Yharnam was also really good, too bad it isn't connected to anything excet cathedral ward and there's no reason to stick around
>>336827363
DaS3 is much shorter if you include chalice dungeons. Even without them they're about the same length.
>>336829038
>>336829057
That's really strange then, it took me less time to complete the main game in BB than ds3
>>336829093
DS1 and BB are both easier than DS3
>>336827994
>das1 average complete time for main story: 49 hours (not including DLC)
>das3 average complete time for main story: 29.5 hours
Fuck man is dark souls 3 really that much shorter than das1, or did people just get better at souls so now they beat it faster? also the movement/combat is faster now too... maybe that makes a difference?
>>336829409
Prove that you have both of them,I refuse to believe someone can have an opinion this wrong without being ignorant
>>336829409
Absolutely not. DaS3 was criminally easy. You've got maybe 2 semi-hardish fights in NK and CD and that's it. Most people agree the game is on the easy side
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168566-dark-souls-iii/73698265
Cue DSP being used as "proof" of DaS3 being harder.
>>336829525
BB doesn't even have a single difficult boss outside of DLC and chalice dungeons. DS1 was only considered hard because people didn't know how to play the game and had trouble with stuff like Capra Demon or Taurus Demon
>>336829746
Funny that you would link to gamefaqs to prove your point : http://www.gamefaqs.com/games/rankings?platform=120&genre=48&list_type=diff&dlc=1&game_id=168566&min_votes=2#2
Also pretty funny that a thread on gamefaqs is somehow more compelling evidence than DSP. it's on the same tier of idiocy
>>336829839
>chalice dungeons somehow don't count despite being part of the base game
Name the hard bosses from DaS3.
>>336829746
>all those aggressive enemies
>shields were nerfed and there's not as much mobility as BB
>parrying and backstabbing are harder to pull off
>no rally system
Not him but I found it harder than BB.
>>336829746
Literally who
>>336823754
>Not even the day 1 edition of DS3
KYS m8.
Really hate how these threads go on and on about which boss/game is the most difficult.
>more difficult=/=better experience
>>336830085
Name the hard bosses from BB
>>336830054
1k votes vs 3.6k votes. Game has also been out longer; less likely to be bombed with spur of the moment 5/5s after getting stuck on a boss.
>Also pretty funny that a thread on gamefaqs is somehow more compelling evidence than DSP. it's on the same tier of idiocy
Yeah, hilarious that a pool of many is better than a pool of 1. Funny shit.
>>336830142
>shields were nerfed
I beat most late-game bosses first attempt by turtling them with a shield. NK, Lothric and the final boss are trivialised with shields.
>>336830529
>literally can't
I asked you a simple question. I honestly do want to present you with a list, but do fuck off with such low tier bait.
>>336829746
People who bitch about souls games getting easier are the worst,they don't realize that after playing 3 games of the same formulae ,as a human you will get progressively better at them and each successive installment will feel "casualized"
All you really need to do is stay calm and objectively analyze the games , to get an idea of the most difficult souls game and I can only come to the conclusion that it's Bloodborne, followed by DaS2,followed by DaS3 and then DaS and DeS being equally difficult
Bloodborne because
Faster enemies
Who also hit much harder
No shields
No poise
No significant damage reduction due to lack of armour
Blood vials barely heal you compared to upgraded estus flasks which recover more than 50% of HP sometimes
Parry Windows extremely small
Bosses have mammoth HP pools
Mob AI more advanced than last gen counterparts (not applicable to 3)
Of course one could say that your character also gets faster to keep up, and it's true but it doesn't do much to help you, just because your character can roll that much faster doesn't change the fact that you are going to have to react much more accurately to enemy attacks ,which is what the game is about,your character being able to roll faster doesn't mean shit
DaS2 is next hardest due to straight up artificial difficulty.
DaS3 is hardest because of many reasons it shares with Bloodborne, enemies are fast,no poise etc
>>336830621
>a pool of many is better
So a thread on gamefaqs with 30 people in it is somehow worth more than 1k+ votes? perfect logic
>>336829839
I'm seriously calling bullshit
post a screenshot of your BB completion trophy and Dark Souls too , w/original filenames
>>336830750
>I asked you a simple question
Cool, then you should have no problem naming the hard bosses from BB
>>336830967
>post a screenshot of your BB completion trophy and Dark Souls too , w/original filenames
he can get that from literally anywhere m9
>>336830967
Is this the new "post your copy of bloodborne with a timestamp if you want to criticize it"?
SOULS IS DEAD
>>336830621
>I beat most late-game bosses first attempt by turtling them with a shield. NK, Lothric and the final boss are trivialised with shields.
Must have used a greatshield, because most shields are useless for bosses.
>>336831245
>Must have used a greatshield
Nope, Black Knight shield.
>>336831126
the filenames really help in identifying if he has downloaded someone else's SS or not
Also if he takes more than 5 minutes to reply it's safe to assume he was busy modifying the screenshot filenames to make it look authentic
>>336831206
Yes it is,
Slightly different though
Post your screenshots of the game if you are claiming to have played it
>>336831206
>can't actually name any hard bosses in DaS3
>can't prove he owns the game
wew
>>336831345
*rubs hands together gleefully*
nice! :D
>>336831315
No late-game boss is trivialized by that.
>>336831478
Except people will just claim I modified the filenames.
>>336831575
See, this is how you know he can't prove anything and is being le ironic falseflagger
Implying that I'm a redditor/outsider who doesn't fit into this board's culture
>>336831760
*scratches head*
huh???
>>336831743
They sure will , given the fact that you haven't posted proof yet and you've had sufficient time to do so
But post it anyway
>>336831345
Holy shit my sides, no one can be this autistic
>>336831963
You're pretty dumb, aren't you?
Wow, so people love BB so much that if you want to criticize it, you have provide documentation of it. We should do this for ALL games, not just BB.
>>336829839
Both games have builds that make the game pathetically easy.
Thing is DaS3 is easier because it doesn't have Ludwig and Orphan.
All of the bosses in DaS3 currently can be cheesed with projectiles, considering base game to base game.
Bloodborne is harder because of Chalice Dungeon bosses like Abhorrent beast, Loran Darkbeast, Headless Bloodletting beast and Defiled Amygdala.
Even though projectiles still even make these easier, nothing in the base game of DaS3 is really fast enough to keep up with projectile spam like BB enemies do.
>>336832014
Still no proof to be seen
Maybe people should stop lying on anonymous imageboards
That's the point of being anonymous, nobody is going to know who this ignorant faggot actually is
>>336831074
Yeah, don't bother mate, I already know what bosses you'd list anyway because there only are about 5 that actually put up any kind of fight.
>pontiff
Meme boss. Strafe left and he'll miss most of his shit. Second phase is a joke because his aggression drops.
>nameless king
First phase is pure filler. Second phase is your average telegraphed knight fight. Easily stunlocked with a fast weapon. Only "hard" because of his damage output.
>champ gundyr
Another souls boss trivialised with parries.
>princes
Slow as balls and the few hard-hitting attacks he has are telegraphed to fuck
>soul of cinder
Joke boss. Extremely predictable despite the numerous phases since they all use player shit. Easily tanked with a shield.
>>336831625
Explain how i beat princes and soul of cinder just by hiding behind it and poking them every now and then.
>>336832019
Not just BB, that dumb liar even claimed that DaS was easier than 3 and hasn't been able to prove that he finished it either.
He's just a sad PC cuck ,like you.
>>336832162
Exactly, DaS3 is only hard if you are a cocksucking shiteater.
Everyone knows if you want to classify a hard Dark Souls sequel, that title can only be awarded to the Dark Souls 2 DLC. WIHOUT SUMMONS, if you summon you are a dogshit eating cockmongrel.
>>336824693
>no fap year
>no gf
>no friends
Are you me?
>>336832162
>Explain how i beat princes and soul of cinder just by hiding behind it and poking them every now and then.
Prove you did. That didn't happen. I tried using a shield against Soul of Cinder and every strike took like half of my stamina.
>>336823754
BB last. Seriously.
>>336832019
Problem is, if you've actually been participating in BB threads on /v/ since it was announced, you'd know full well just how many shitters who've never touched the game feel compelled to shitpost it nonetheless due to exclusivity.
Considering this retard couldn't supply any evidence anyway, it's probably safe to include him in this demograph.
>>336832162
>Ebrietas
Just hug her left side and mash R1. joke boss
>Gahrman.
Extremely easy to parry
>Bloodstarved beast
Literally circlestrafe him, simply walk, and all of his attacks will miss. some of them leave him wide open for a backstab
>Shadows of Yharnam
The pillar prevents them from hitting you with fireballs. just R1 mash. joke boss
Bonus :
>Defiled watchdog
Just stay in front of him and attack his head after every attack he does. You bascially can't get hit
Bloodborne is so hard guys! If you think otherwise you simply haven't played it
>>336824693
>>doing a no fap year
how is this even possible
i cant even do three days
>ITT muh souls difficulty
>>336830826
This really.
Reading this will convince anyone that Bloodborne isn't easy and it being easy just a meme spread PCs cancerous playerbase and propagated by the "imsogoodIplaysoulsgames" crowd
Well anyone except the people who don't have an open mind (read:aforementioned PC players)
The only reason BB is even considered above average is shown in this very thread
every criticism is dismissed if you don't upload a full playthrough with highly detailed documentation
>>336832297
I share a PS4 with my dorm mate,m8. Don't reach, never played BB,only have dudebro games on it.
>>336832534
None of those are even the hard bosses of Bloodborne.
Abhorrant Beast
Defiled Amygdala
Headless Bloodletting Beast
Loran Darkbeast
Chalice Ebrietas
Considerably harder than anything any souls game has to offer other than DSII DLC areas which aren't even bosses.
>>336832760
Because most people on this site that criticize the game haven't played it and are angry PCfats.
There is literally nothing wrong with the game if you actually played it and enjoy souls games.
>>336830529
Father Gascoigne and Rom the Vacious Spider.
>>336824693
>tfw one of you're borther's uni friends is like this except he spends to excess on hearthstone cards
>>336832448
>That didn't happen
Well it did. Not even boasting, i'm legit mad the game presented me such an insulting fight for the final boss to the point that I could just turtle all his blows and poke him every so often even while he's going through numerous unseen moveset cycles.
>every strike took like half of my stamina.
Unless you have shit stamina or are holding the block button down at all times then stamina management shouldn't be a problem with an upgraded black knight shield.
>>336832534
Except most of those tips don't work
The shadows second phase long range snek attack goes through the giant stone
You can't fucking backstab BSB you autist , you need to have a charged R2 for backstab, if you circle strafe him and manage to get to his back he'll forward rush halfway across the arena by the time you have charged an R2
>Gehrman
Easy to parry ? Kill yourself.
>Stay in front of watchdog's head and get your face melted when he does the bark attack where he barks like a dog and spews flames with every bark
Please die,you can't even spell the bosses right , you haven't played the game.
>>336832897
Gascoigne is only hard first time you fight him. you probably are going to get replies like "Just parry him easy as fuck lololololol"
Rom isn't really hard, she just punishes impatient players. The one in the Chalice dungeons is more worthy of that title though, but most people are too shit to even get past any chalices.
>>336832019
Naturally people will ask for proof. This happened a lot with Bayo 2 as well, or in the case when any cult franchise goes exclusive for an instalment. The shitposting from non-owners is supermassive black hole-tier of uninformed cynicism.
>>336823754
Bloodborne. Then you can see why DaS3 is shit.
>>336832897
>Rom the Vacious Spider.
Legit gave me more deaths than any DaS3 boss. I can kill her with ease now, but I still think this fight is pretty underrated and about the only good mob fight in the series.
>>336832769
>Headless
Play unlocked. Don't stay in front of him. Attack him after he smashes the ground. He doesn't even oneshot you and all of his moves are highly telegraphed
>defiled amygdala
Just a rehash of the easiest boss in the game, but this time you have less health. stay still and attack his head after the jumps.No skill required
>Loran Darkbeast
The camera is the boss. Get under him and attack a different limb everytime he gets up. he wont get to do much
>Chalice ebrietas
hug her left side and mlash R1. joke boss
>Abhorrent beast
wait for him to do the double straight punch and attack him. stay away from him otherwise. He can't hit you.
Nameless King is harder than any of these and it's sad
>>336832769
Headless BLB in a FRC chalice is easily the hardest boss I've ever repeatedly beaten outside of optional DMC difficulties. I had to memorize every string and potential ender and where to position to control his AI. Never had to do that before him.
It's a fucking shame bosses like him and other FRC bosses are buried in optional content. The chalices should have just been a boss rush mode.
>>336833262
>Nameless King 1st phase
Camera is the boss,lock on to the King himself, not the dragon and trivialize
>2nd phase
Delay your rolls to go along with his delayed attacks
Joke boss
>>336833262
>muh nameless king
>>336832989
You're really bad at Bloodborne
Gehrman is very easy to parry. All of his moves when his weapon is tricked are extremely slow and telegraphed. When he untricks you will parry him if you simply shoot after he rolls. So difficult. even Gundyr is harder to parry.
BSB can be hit with a charged R2 after he does a swipe with his right hand. Since all of his moves can be dodged by strafing to his right, this isn't exactly difficult to do.
Watchdog's "barking" is dodged like every other attack except the charge. By dodging backwards. You mongoloid
You are mad and terrible at the game
>>336833262
>Nameless King.
>Dive for nuts first phase.
>Smash R1 second phase and dodge forward on reaction, no need to memorize patterns or sight recognize wind-ups.
1 try in both my playthroughs. Not him btw.
>playing DaS1 for the first time
>post on /v/ about my misadventures
>say I got the black knight halberd off the 2nd or 3rd black knight I killed, and people flip the fuck out on me for using the best weapon I have available and tell me I need to throw it away and play the game with a shitty weapon, or an unfun one likeZweihander
I don't get it, why do people treat this game like it's NOT some RPG where you use the best items/equipment that you find?
>>336833441
>delay your rolls
Notice how unspecific this is. Since the delays aren't the same on every attack, you actually have to dodge a little bit this time, which makes him harder than all of these by default
Even if chalice dungeons are difficult, it doesn't fucking matter because all of the "difficult" fights are fucking boring and shit. A few of them are literally copy-pasted from the main story. The others are more struggles with the camera than anything else.
>>336833464
>>336833618
Pretty sure he's staggered every 7 hits or some shit. Literally mash to win. No idea how anyone could possibly find him harder than the BB chalice bosses.
>>336832963
No, I'm aware of stamina management and had enough stamina. You aren't fooling anyone. Shields have been nerfed in this game and that's an objective fact.
>>336833657
>using equipment for stats and not fun
It's like you don't even want the true souls experience.
>>336833618
I'm sure you beat every boss on the first try since you never get hit and roll every attack perfectly on reaction. That doesn't add anything to the discussion though
WHO THE FUCK CARES IF A GAME IS HARDER THAN THE OTHER IF IT'S ENJOYABLE
LITERALLY
WHO
CARES
NONE OF THE SOULS GAMES ARE HARD STOP FORCING THIS DUMB LE HARDEST GAME EVER MEME
FUCKIN REEEEEEEEEEE
>>336833764
Did you upgrade your shield? Not even him but the stability you get with upgrades is a much bigger deal in this one than it was in the past.
>>336833762
Stagger is at damage intervals(?). It was the same as Ludwig; if you play properly and ripo every stagger, you will win the fight with a riposte.
>>336833786
I pick the fun weapons with the best stats, I used the regular halberd until my strength was high enough to use the black knight's. While I am a bit of a statswhore, some weapons just aren't appealing to my playstyle.
>>336833901
Heterochromia is shorthand for "I'm creatively bankrupt and couldn't design something to save my life".
>>336833762
Yeah I'm sure you can get 7 hits on him by simply mashing even though he'll have attacked you at least 3 times by then, and you die in two hits
>>336834042
Using anything other than the drake sword for the entire game makes you a scrub.
>>336834054
I have it in real life does that mean I'm a failure
>>336834146
yeah
>>336834146
Kind of yeah. One of your eyes failed to be the correct colour.
>>336833948
It was fully upgraded Dragon Crest Shield I'm pretty sure
>>336833872
I just don't understand how people had trouble with him, or why they site him as a hard boss and I actually died quite a few times to Champ Gundyr.
Literally mashed R1 with Estoc, rolled behind him for every wind up and got hit a couple times by his spear ground-pound lightning shit.
>>336833764
>You aren't fooling anyone.
How fucking salty are you to think i'm making this up? Why would I lie about turtling a boss? Try upgrading your shield you dumbshit, BKS has about 69 stability.
>>336833587
You know , you just gave away the fact that you haven't touched the game right ?
Because GEHRMAN NEVER FUCKING ROLLS,he does the enhanced teleport
quickstep you get by using the Old Hunters bone
Also you retard,telegraphed attacks doesn't necessarily equate to a big parry window, Gehrman shakes off bullets even if you hit him too early or too late during a swing
You can't dodge the Bark by backstepping because he barks 3-4 times each follow up having further range than the previous ,staying in front of his face will get you killed
Don't even know why I'm entertaining you anymore when you've clearly given yourself out as a fraud
>>336834139
>tell /v/ you have the drake sword on your first playthrough
>DELETE THISalbeit it does really over-trivialize things
>>336834065
It happens in that very webm.
>>336834283
Honestly as a bloodborne faggot I thought the fight was easy by spamming augur of ebrietas and having 30 health levels.
>>336824142
In Bloodborne, yes.
In Dark Souls III, kinda. Earlygame is a huge slog, but once you get access to Great Heavy Soul Arrow, you're pretty much set for the rest of the game.
>>336834283
I love BB but people like you should kill themselves
>>336834415
I didn't even have that much health for the DLC.
>>336833710
There's nothing to be specific about.
His attacks are delayed and slow, you can actually track his movements actively and delay your rolls accordingly ,unlike bloodborne where It's spur of the moment and you don't get the leeway to calculate your timings
>>336834139
>>336834341
No the real way to play dark souls is to use drake sword and gravelord sword later on for easy game win.
>>336834282
Why would I be salty? I had an upgraded Dragon Crest Shield and it was shit against most bosses. You're literally making shit up for some reason
>>336834283
>Because GEHRMAN NEVER FUCKING ROLLS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c63eT0xv0s&t=1m0s
Oops
>You can't dodge the Bark by backstepping because he barks 3-4 times
I did it everytime. you know you can backstep more than once?
Maybe it's time to stop posting
Unlike people here who are just going to say "Play BloodBorne because it's better" I would also suggest playing DS3 first because the community i still active, and you never know when it might start dying down.
BloodBorne on the other hand, will have a lower population of players, and should be played single player anyway.
>>336834517
Yeah magic builds really make the game easier if you just build health and magic level. Like people were saying Ludwig was hard when I just used Executioner skulls on his first form and my +8 threaded cane with arcane on his second phase and it was pretty easy.
The rest of the bosses were a cakewalk after getting his moonlight magic blade.
Play DaS3 first because then you can end it with the BB dlc which is the hardest and best part of the entire series.
I do think the base game of das3 is better than the base game of BB, though.
>>336834523
Except slow doesn't mean easier to time, if anything it's the opposite
When an attack comes out nearly immediately after the windup, you can dodge very easily on reaction. That's most attacks in Bloodborne.
When an attack is extremely delayed, like the shark giants in the well in BB or nameless king, you have to actively guess the proper timing. The windup could end at any moment and the attack comes out fast after it
Sounds like you got lucky on Nameless and are now bragging about it like it's some sort of achievement
>>336834963
No he can end it with ds2 DLC areas which are the hardest part of the series.
But seriously has no one played the DS2 DLC?
>>336834650
Alright he can roll, my bad,now show me someone parrying him by interrupting his roll with a QS bullet like you claimed
Also do you know how bosses are designed to keep following up with attacks every back step ?
You are lying through your teeth if you say that you dodged that attack by back stepping, especially since you are supposed to sidestep that one.
Maybe it's time you stop lying about having played the game or prove that you have
>>336823754
Dark Souls III doesn't do a lot to change the established formula in the series. It's sort of disappointing to play Bloodborne, then DSIII, so do it in the opposite order. That being said, they're both good games. It's just that BB does more to give the gameplay a fresh feel by emphasizing offense over defense and providing a brand-new, underused setting and flair.
>>336834787
ARC is probably one of the best builds in BB. Saw Spear/Threaded Cane with the crescent fire gem and the fire radials from central pthumeru and you're set.
>>336834595
>Dragon Crest Shield
>56 stability
You're literally using a shield with 13 less stability you twit. Do you even know what stability does?
>>336834968
Except slow does mean easier to time if it's slow enough to keep track of with your eyes,you can literally observe his attack animation and time your roll without getting hit,that's how telegraphed his attacks are
>>336833103
DS3 if you like souls for the gameplay.
BB if you like it for the visuals and barely existent story.
>>336835114
>you are supposed to
maybe that's how you did it, because you didn't realize that it's possible to backstep more than once/your reaction time is just shit
You have thouroughly proven that you don't know shit about this game, and are asking other people for proof that they played it? That's hilarious
>>336835094
When the DaS2 dlc was hard, it was usually for the wrong reasons. I still personally found the BB dlc harder.
Play DaS3 and return BB.
>>336835261
Yeah I'm sure you could do that with his jumping attack/his charge, even though the attack comes out instantly. if it's that easy, you didn't have trouble with any bosses in the series anyway so there's no need to argue this
>>336835361
>for the wrong reasons
Yeah because Fume knight and Alonne were hard for the "wrong reasons"
>>336835249
That's not that large of a difference
>>336835360
He can bark twice per back step , and his second one will hit you ,you still haven't shown someone parrying Gehrman by interrupting his roll
I have throughly proven that I have played the game , meanwhile your outlandish claims have done the opposite for you.
And if you are casting aspersions over the fact that I have played the game , I can turn on my PS4 and PvP with you right now.
Actually that would be a great way for you to prove it too,what do you say ?
We'll also see who is shit at the game and who's better.
>>336835292
>barely existent story
Just because you have seen all the lore youtube videos about Dark Souls doesnt mean any of the souls game have more of a "story" when every single one relies on scraps of text/item descrptions to fill the theme about Darkness and Fire recycled to infinitum.
Bloodborne would actually get criticized much more than DS2 if it wasn't an exclusive
The only thing it does better is the atmosphere, which is debatable
>>336835567
Except not all bosses in the series delay their attacks this much,and hence I do struggle with them, are you dumb or something.
His charge is the only exception to that rule,the jumping attack can be tracked and if you got hit by that even once then it's a damn shame
>>336835781
My "outlandish claims", like the fact that Gehrman can roll? Which, you know, you claimed he couldn't do?
Just stop embarassing yourself
>>336835781
Do it, anon. Show him who's boss of this gym.
You'll be genuinely disappointed in ds3 AFTER you play bloodborne.
>>336836056
FUCK YOU
>>336836042
No like the one where you claimed you could parry Gehrman by interrupting his roll with a Bullet
Like where you claimed you could just sit behind a pillar during the Shadows fight even thow their elastic snake attacks can hit you right through it
As I said , I missed the fact that he can roll and that's my bad , yet there's no doubt that I've played the game because I can prove it to you by PVPing you
>>336836305
Why don't you get out of that, uh, jabroni outfit.
>>336836151
Yeah hell be disappointed because he won't be able to go back to BBs mostly shitty bosses after the second half of 3.
>>336836360
Only the katana and flamethrower shadows have elastic snakes, and that's only after you take out 70% health from one of them. Most importantly, the flamethrower shadow will not do the long range attacks if you stay close to him, which is easily done after taking out one of them. They're only difficult to handle at level 4
>>336835904
Yeah, lets forget about the different combat, the more complex weapons, the lightning, the estrangement with the DeS characters archetypes, the different builds that actually work (not like magic/faith), the surprises in level design and themes in a regurgitated series about dark and fire. Lets forget about the Doll and focus on that bland copy pasted version of Maiden in Black. There's a lot of sick references to DS1 to talk about, right?
>>336834283
I'm pretty sure he does that "roll and shoot" thing papa gassy does. He doesn't start doing the hunter bone stuff until he powers up, I think, not 100% on that one.
>>336836823
After a roll he will either shoot or go for an immediate attack. Both are neutralized by shooting at him after he rolls. He can still roll forward even if he is able to dash. it's a way to telegraph his moves
>>336836573
Maybe, but that still doesn't make up for the shitty recycled movesets, recycled atmosphere, boring narrative, strictly worse handling, duller enemies, armor which does nothing despite it's weight, useless stats, shitty catalyst system, etc.
>>336823972
nice meme
>>336836753
There's nothing more bland than the doll. The "more complex weapons" are actually just normal Dark Souls weapons, except there's two of them at once! originality
Also there's like 15 weapons in the base game
>>336837136
That's cute, you think spouting a bunch of obvious bullshit without explaining any of it will make you win the argument
>>336823754
always play the less refined game first
it can really suck to go back and play something older and less polished
>>336836724
So now you are admitting that there is more to the fight than just sitting behind a pillar ?
You have to pick off the 3 in a specific manner for that to actually work and to know this you'll require awareness about the fight which won't come until a couple of tries
>>336836823
>>336837028
He does roll and shoot like Gascan but he cannot be parried during a roll unlike Gascoigne
See how the goalpost has shifted from parrying to neutralizing
>>336837489
No. If he attacks after a roll, he will be parried. If he shoots, he will be staggered. In both cases, he will be neutralized. Please learn to read.
>>336837364
Yeah, just like there is more than just "parry" to champion gundyr or pontiff sulyvahn. Doesn't mean the fight is hard
>>336837624
Not what you initially claimed
To quote "you will parry him if you simply shoot after he rolls"
You never said anything about parrying a follow up attack after the roll,you claimed that you can parry him after he initiates the roll
>>336837731
Never said Pontiff was about parries,
But champion gundyr is,there is literally nothing else to the fight if you get down the parry timings
Atleast Pontiff had that clone you had to watch out for instead of just waiting for Pontiffs attack and parrying.
>>336838112
But that's exactly what I claimed. You will parry him if you shoot after he rolls
>>336838402
Yes which you won't
You will only parry the if you shoot the FOLLOW UP attack after the roll,you never said anything about parrying the attack after the roll,you said shooting him after he rolls will parry him which is wrong
Shooting him right after the roll begins won't parry him
>>336823754
It depends on if you've played other souls before and you play them.
If you're used to turtling with your shield play Dark Souls 3 first. Because it is more of the same and the game will be quite easy for you to beat, switching to BB will change the way you're playing tremendously and it will make the experience fresh again.
Now if you're used to roll because of the previous games, play BB first. Because the game will seem quite easy to you considering BB has more i-frames, a safe ranged parry which makes crazy damage for very little cost. BB is far from hard when you know how to roll and it can be a deception considering how "hard" the game is supposed to be and the blinded fans will tell you that this swapped color boss in this chalice dungeon lambda can kick your ass even though it is artificial difficulty at its finest. Playing DS3 roll/no shield only will be more gratifying than BB and that's why should play it second in this case.
BB can be fresh if you've not explored all the possible builds in the previous DS, but it can also feel stale if you're already used to roll.
Also I find DS background more personnal than BB considering how BB is more or less an adaptation of a famous author's ideasIt is a lovecraftian game, and that's barely it. You see shit that shouldn't be seen and that's more or less a descent in hell, whereas Dark Souls has several good ideas that you can't find anywhere else.
>>336838703
I said parry after the roll, not while he rolls. I didn't know there people stupid enough to interpret that as "parry the roll". You cannot parry rolls, sorry
>>336838930
Again,you are exposing yourself for not having played Bloodborne
You can parry rolls, to be specific,Father Gascoigne's roll,yes.
And even if you said that , there is a clear distinction between parrying after a roll(can be interpreted as during the roll/when the roll animation begins/as soon as the roll animation ends)
And
parrying the follow up attack after he rolls,
Stop trying to backpedal, you've outed yourself too many times in this thread already
Das3>BB>SOTFS>DaS1>DeS>DaS2
>>336839351
You can't parry Gascoigne's roll you mong, it's the attack he initates after the roll that gets parried
No one is backpedaling here, you are just in a permanent state of confusion caused by your own stupidity
>>336839427
>SOTFS>DaS1
Ya blew it.
>>336839535
Keep digging your own grave
You can interrupt the roll itself with a QS Bullet to stagger him and get a riposte
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Father_Gascoigne
>>336836753
The combat is not that different if you've played different playthroughs of the previous dark Souls. BB just forces you to play with an overpowered parrying dagger instead of a shield and with a safer roll.
BB has actually less interesting builds options considering how fast the game is. You'll always play with the same opening in the bosses' guards because most weapons are quick.
Also without the DLC, BB has poor variety in the weapon choice and the game rewards less the exploration despite having a better overworld than DS3 and tighter level design.
>>336824142
>Is magic viable to do a first PvE run?
Do you like to live on the edge?
>>336839923
No you can't if you shoot before he initiates the attack you will stagger him, as in cancel out his animation
Also good to know your main experience with the game is reading a wiki
I'm on the edge of falling for the PS4 meme for Bloodborne. There's a couple of other games I'm interested in playing like Samurai Warriors 4, Earth Defense Force, Uncharted 4 and eventually FFXV, Persona 5 and Nier but my better judgement is telling me not to pull the trigger thanks to the recent news about the PS4.5. I've been mulling over the decision for days now, is Bloodborne good enough to warrent getting a regular PS4 for?
>>336840350
Not now that the PS4 2.0 is coming out
at least wait for the inevitable price drop
>>336840350
BB isn't going anywhere. It will still be available in 6 months from now. Buy your console when P5 and/or FF15 will be out.
There's no need to buy a console before the release of the games you're interested in. Especially when the price is about to drop.
>>336840320
So I've thrown proof right in your face where it is explicitly mentioned that you can parry him DURING a roll and all you've got is
>nuh uh
Again you've outed yourself , there's no point in continuing to dig your own grave , of course you could prove me entirely wrong about you if you want by PvPing me but you won't because you haven't played the game
>>336840068
>less interesting build options
Yes, this is true. Differences in builds are basically "how fast do you want your weapon to be."
I still thought the game was harder than the other Souls games. An example of why is that there are often more enemies that you have to fight at a time in BB. I always play as a speedy little rolly bitch, so in DS I had a fine time picking off enemies one by one. It's a lot harder to have to manage dodges on multiple enemies at the same time. Regardless, the difference in difficulties between these games is relatively negligible, likely personal, and definitely does not warrant hundreds of posts arguing.
>>336830826
>DaS2 is next hardest due to straight up artificial difficulty.
Yeah, it's definitely artificial difficulty, not your inability to understand environmental cues or adapt to situations of any kind.
>>336840590
You've shown no proof whatsoever. You simply misread a sentence in a wiki.
>Keep digging your own grave
He says, while digging his own grave
>>336839784
The second half of DaS1 is dogshit m8
>>336840350
I'd recommend getting one ~a month before FFXV drops so you can finish the games that are out now before you hop on the FFXV ship. PS4k should be announced by then, and hopefully info on a drop of the base model as well. You can then make the decision on how much this difference in price/quality is worth waiting for games you're interested in playing.
>>336840893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJghxX3m7U&app=desktop
See from 0:42
>no U are digging ur own grave
Again,you Don't have to keep doing this.You're anonymous.
Here's more
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bloodborne-boss-guide-how-to-beat-father-gascoigne/1100-6426139/
Quoting the article
" The good news is that you can also stun him for a visceral attack if you manage to hit him during his forward roll. "
You are about 6 feet deep right now, that should be enough
>>336841235
Holy fuck you're retarded.
Notice how he hits him after the roll ends? And when the attack animation starts?
I think you're probably trolling at this point, because there is no way anyone could be that stupid
>>336841428
At 0:42 onwards ? No
No he hits him just as Gascoigne is about to stand up I.e roll phase
Now you're pretending to be blind
I gave you wiki proof,which said only stagger no visceral
I gave you visual proof which clearly shows Gascoigne getting parried before roll phase
I've given you a GS article which explicitly mentions you can parry him "DURING" the forward roll and get a "visceral"
So at this point you are trying to discredit me as a troll because you've got nothing left to go on,go lie in the grave you dug
It's okay by now it's thoroughly clear that you haven't played Bloodborne one bit , so it doesn't matter what you think of me,troll or otherwise
>>336823754
Play bloodborne , then DS3.
>>336829409
can confirm this
>>336841925
There's such a thing as rolling attacks. this isn't a "roll phase", this is Gascoigne initating a rolling attack and getting parried. I never thought I would have to explain this, but you cannot parry rolls.
I'm done replying to bait now
>>336832769
>Headless Bloodletting Beast
>Loran Darkbeast
Both the boss is the camera
>Defiled Amygdala
u havin a giggle mate? he is easy to predict and stun. The problem is the hp gimmick
>Abhorrant Beast
this is the only hard one , but if you learn how to dodge and now when attack is easy , just like Gundyr.
>Chalice Ebrietas
>i can' dodge ebrietas charge the post
>>336842170
>I'm done replying to bait now
So as I said,you lost and hence are discrediting me as a troll
First you said "you can't parry Gascoigne's roll,you can parry the follow up attack"
Now you are backpedaling to "the roll is actually an attack"
Rolls and attacks are to mutually exclusive things , you can't parry a rolling R1 unless you actually parry the swing not the roll , but in BB and specifically in this fight you can parry the roll animation itself as it has been clearly stated in the wiki, the GameSpot article and shown in the video.
Reply or don't reply it stopped meaning anything when you kept backpedaling so much and refused to PvP me or even post screenshots of your trophy
You were outed then and there,you just chose to keep digging your own grave and now you are lying in it
>>336842768
The roll isn't an attack you retard, a rolling atack is an attack you initate immediately after a roll. Which is what Gehrman and Gascoigne do, and what anyone sane would understand if you tell them to "parry after the roll"
>it has been clearly stated in the wiki, the GameSpot article and shown in the video
This is fucking hilarious and I'll give you credit for it
>>336829746
This is the same guy who thinks that DaS2 is as good as DaS1. He also thought Gerhman was "nothing special" and that the chalice dungeons were a great inclusion. Hes superbunnyhop levels of sounding smart but actually being retarded.
>>336842768
eh, dont bother with him m8. he's obviously a lying shitter pcuck that doesn't own the game and has never played it, only seen a bunch of youtube videos to allow him to damage control. he is one sad cookie and this is all his life will ever be.
>>336823972
SPICY MEME FRIEND XDD
>>336843008
>hahahha all this proof is so funny
Typical,
A rolling attack cannot be parried mid roll,the parry has to come during the actual swing.
But in Gascoigne's case you can parry the roll and you'd have known it if you had played the game instead of watching walkthroughs because I'm sure you've seen some other hunter get parried after rolls and tried to apply it to Gehrman.
It's clear you meant to imply that Gehrman could be parried during rolls otherwise you'd have made the distinction between the follow up Attack and the roll itself
You also happened to make this distinction when we were arguing about Gascoigne,why not in the original post then ? Because you never meant to make that distinction
I don't know what makes you a compulsive liar like this but you should get it checked out by a therapist
>>336843530
>But in Gascoigne's case you can parry the roll
No, you can't. What's being parried is the followup attack. You cannot parry rolls
>>336830826
BB is harder to get into. But if you're used to play without shield in DS, BB is easier than a no shield run in DS3 even though they are basically the same thing.
Playing the entire game with the starting mercenary twinblades was harder than anything found in BB (excluding Ludwig)
>>336843703
Except I've shown you otherwise
I've given citations to otherwise
I've given link to a wiki that says otherwise,
All of them clearly state "during the roll",
At this point you are just reduced to
"Nuh uh"
To parry the follow up Attack you have to parry the swing itself , but the video clearly shows Gascoigne beginning to stand up after the roll and getting parried before he even begins a swipe
0:42 onwards if you want to take a look again
>>336823754
sell dark souls 3 and buy bloodborne dlc and dark soul 2
>>336843710
This.
DaS3 is either the easiest or hardest souls game depending on your build. BB is easy no matter how you play it.
>>336843973
Your own inability to read and to understand what's going on in the video is the problem here. I've already explained it to you and at this point I'm just repeating myself. You cannot parry a roll. What you are parrying is the following attack.
Citing Gamespot as a credible source doesn't do you any favors either
>>336835762
That's actually huge.
>>336828194
(You)
>>336837340
You mean like what you did with BB's bosses? Fuck off.
>>336823754
DAS3 is as a matter of fact easier then Bloodborne.
The first 4 bosses all togher have a 70 percent completion rate on Playstation.
While Father Gasgione only 60 percent of all people beat the first real boss not optional cleric beast.
Thats the proof that Bloodborne is harder than dark souls 3.
Play DAS3 enjoy it. Learn from it an go into Bloodborne with some skills and ability
>>336827994
>a website for shitters to post their times wiping repeatedly
>>336844283
You haven't explained the logic behind Gascoigne getting parried even though he hasn't even begun his follow up swipe after the roll
My ability to read is fine,a stagger means an opportunity to riposte,what you are referring to as a 'neutralization' is called a stunlock which is again very distinct from stagger,your lack of knowledge about the game,which is a given since you haven't played it is the problem
Also are you going to pretend that it's a magical co-incidence that both GameSpot and the Wiki confirm that Gascoigne can be staggered during the roll , but GameStop being more specific and mentioning the visceral.
Your misunderstanding of the concept of stagger and stunlock is what's the problem
And I've explained it to you many times as well,If there was a follow that was being parried then it would have to be parried during a weapon swing, not during the roll
There's nothing you can do to discredit GameSpot as a source
>>336844810
Learn to speak English before posting stupid shit.
>>336844810
You know there's a game past the first boss right?
>>336844810
>Begins the game
>Get filtered by the first boss
>"This game is too hard for me, I give up"
>Stops playing even though Gascogne is one of the hardest bosses (comparatively to your gear) of the whole game.
Base DaS3 is slightly better than base BB
BB DLC is very good, DaS3 dlc isn't out.
DaS3 has a hell of a lot more balance issues though. They didn't affect me because my favorite DaS weapons are alwaysstraight swordsanyway
Just flip a coin to decide which one to play
>>336844918
>even though he hasn't even begun his follow up swipe after the roll
He clearly has. Notice how he only shoots after the roll is over? That's Gascoigne barely starting his attacking animation. The same thing happens with Gehrman. Guess what happens if you don't shoot? The boss attacks you.
At this point it feels like I'm talking to a wall
Did anyone ever say the DS3 cover looks like he's giving a thumbs up?
Just agreeing with the rest of the thread.
DaS3 first, then BB.
DaS3 is breddy gud, so you'll get through that thinking "fuck, that was awesome", but Bloodborne is simply amazing and will leave you with a sweet Soulsborne aftertaste. BB is like the epic dessert.
>>336830826
This.
The hardest Souls game is your first.
>>336844942
How am i speaking shit its the truth.
>>336845034
I got the platinum and got all the DLC trophies champ.
>>336845050
And your proving my point that Bloodborne is harder then DAS3 if the first boss filters out 40 percent of the game from the get go. And thats the reason OP should play DAS3 first.
>>336830826
>Blood vials barely heal you compared to upgraded estus flasks which recover more than 50% of HP sometimes
Vials always heal 40%, are super fast to use and you can carry 20 of them right at the start.
>>336845239
Except that's not,that's Gascoigne standing up after the roll,the attack is the swipe not the roll itself , unless and until Gascoigne pulls out a weapon and goes for the swipe you parried the roll itself not the follow up Attack
And no,the same thing does not happen with Gehrman,show me one place where Gehrman got parried immediately after a roll
Again,you can't refute GameSpot and the Wiki,both clearly say Gascoigne can be parried during his forward roll,you can't differentiate between a stagger and a stunlock that's not my problem
>>336844810
I wouldn't necessarily call Bloodborne harder than DS3. They're two different games, but as a matter of fact, you'll be good in both, if you master one. Reason is that both games use the same engine and that's a huge advantage in a souls game, for a souls player. Cascoign is just punishing defensive behavior. Everyone and their mom tried to play bloodborne more defensively early on and Gascoign punished that immensely. The boss becomes a joke once you realize that all you have to do, is roll around and stagger lock him. His last phase has a very predictable moveset, once you calmed down.
If we talk about optional content, than Bloodborne is the winner hands down. Chalice Dungeons, especially in depth 5 with all offerings will break minds. Abhorrent Beast in Depth 5 Loran is still giving me nightmares.
>>336823754
masturbate to taylor swift than play DaS3 because the servers are busy
then enjoy the speed change with bloodborne
>>336845542
You cannot parry a roll.
>you can't differentiate between a stagger and a stunlock
That has nothing to do with a stunlock. Nothing mentioned here has anything to do with a stunlock
>>336845582
>Abhorrent Beast in Depth 5 Loran is still giving me nightmares.
For me, it was the defiled depth 4 Watchdog of the Old Lords, mostly just because the game cripples your health while buffing him to an absurd level.
>>336845523
Nah Vials heal about 20 percent maybe less.
With the exectuioners runes it turns i to about 30 or 40 percent.
And you dont carry 20 of them from the start. You get like 5 and you dont get anymore everytime you die. You have to farm to get more since echoes from enemies is shit in the begining.
The first 3 or 4 hours the game is ridicoulsy tough and the main reason 40 percent of all bloodborne players dont beat Gasciogne.
>>336844160
> BB is easy no matter how you play it
I dont know if it was just the skills I picked up while playing BB, but it was immeasurably harder for me than DaS3, which, aside from 1 optional and 1 mandatory boss, was a complete fucking faceroll.
I died more times to the Blood Starved Beast and Father C than every single DaS3 boss combined.
>>336823754
play dakr souls 3.
play it until you finish it, you will be glad it finally ends.
Then pick up the best soulsbourne game ever and play it, Bloodbourne is glorious.
>>336844810
sonyggers can't speak english
>>336845430
>if the first boss filters out 40 percent of the game from the get go.
It is bad design and doesn't represent the whole game. You get punished too harshly on the first boss even though the rest is quite easy.
I've watched a streamer I follow who played all the souls recently, and he was quite surprised to breeze through the game even though Lorian&Lothric gave him plenty of difficulty.
He beat vicar Amelia and the one reborn on first try, and Gascogne on the second try.
>>336845750
Oh god that fucking dog.
That motherfucking dog.
Fuck that dog. The worse part is they put that dog in DAS3 some animations and everything and weakness. But this time you fight him on the god damn bridge.
>>336845725
You can parry a roll in the case of the Gascoigne fight,which you should have known if you had played the game
It's in the wiki
It's in the GS article
it's shown in the video, you don't parry the follow up,roll and attacks are two different things, the Parry window after a rolling attack doesn't begin until the swing itself does,so you parried the roll not the follow up.
Saying nuh uh and coming up with bullshit combining parry Window of an attack to a roll isn't going to do anything
>>336833262
>muh nameless king
kek, I beat that faggot on my second try when any of these chalice bosses have take me ages. I died to the fucking dragons fire because I didn't know about it, after that it's easy game. The King's moveset is so heavily predictably and easily avoidable that you'll have to be a retard to honestly have a difficult time with him. Only people who refuse to learn to doge suffer on this boss.
>>336846112
You're retarded
>>336846161
You suck horribly at Bloodborne, OK, but why brag about it?
>>336846163
And now we're down to this ?
Whatever floats your boat
>>336845861
Shield/ straight sword build I suppose?
Because a roll only run on DS3 (which is basically playing like Bloodborne) is way harder than BB itself. Dancer was designed to punish the roll abuse for example. I honestly think she would be the hardest boss of the whole serie if she had more HP.
>>336846251
It's rather that you're a butthurt faggot who can't stand that the boss you have a boner for is easy as shit.
>>336846374
Still harder than all of those chalice bosses you somehow spent hours on, kek
>>336823754
Da3
You'll be disappointed if you play the better game first.
>>336846365
Uchigatana and Hollowslayer greatsword for 99% of the game. No shield, 2Handed.
Lots of rolling. Never really an issue.
>>336845914
Listen bloodborne sold like 2 million copies. 40 percent of those 2mill couldnt beat gasciogne.
Thats 800,000 people. And BTW thats a lot bigger number then that one streamer who can savant his way through the game first blind playthrough or w.e. But heres the thing. People still give up the game in massive numbers per boss completion goes down like 10 percent.
While on the otherhand DAS3 the first 4 bosses literally everyone beats them. And most of the game has really high completion numbers while bloodborne is constantly sinking.
Dark Souls 3 is easier. Its a matter of fact. Taking the entire audience who bought the game and then just looking at trophies its easy to read.
>>336845523
Even if they do,the mobs and bosses hit that much harder than the ones in the other games, so it kinda balances out
>>336846558
He should start with BB then
>>336846519
>still defending the nameless bitch
>still defending it over depth 5 all offerings end bosses
>150% more HP
>oneshotting with almost every move
>you're HP is cut in half
>b-but muh nameless king ;_;
280 posts
75 unique IPs
Sonyggers are samefagging in this thread if you wondered why so many replies called BB better
>MY BOSS IS HARDER THAN YOUR BOSS: THE THREAD
Both sides are retarded.
>>336846640
Or, 40% turned off trophy shit.
>>336845818
>Nah Vials heal about 20 percent maybe less.
Have you even played bloodborne? You're just talking out of your ass.
>>336846752
Pretty much this.
Nameless King is kind of a bitch when taken to BB's hardest encounters.
>>336846752
>you're HP
learn to spell you mongoloid, lol
>>336846835
Breh it is hands down the better game, even just quality wise. Now we still have 3 addons to go and DS3 has still time to improve.
>>336846519
Your an idiot.
Nameless King has a fucking 30 percent compeltion rate.
Yharnam The Chalice Dungeon queen. The boss you get to fight after the bosses the poster you were arguing with saying "chalice dungeons are easy peasy" has a fucking 8 percent compeltion rate.
Nameless king is easy dumb ass
>>336846710
They do not. Dark souls 3 has the hardest hitting enemies. BB enemies hit about as hard as DaS2 enemies
>>336846887
Probably the same guy who thinks you can parry rolls. He's a bit special
>>336846640
>While on the otherhand DAS3 the first 4 bosses literally everyone beats them.
Yah. Oroboro beat each of the first four DaS3 bosses on his very first try.
Took him like 16 tries just to beat Papa G
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YxsF-qTCyU
>>336846835
But BB is better... It's hardly even a competition. Most people who have played both will agree...
Not even console wars, just saying which game in the series is better.
WHO /LONDOR/ HERE??
HOLLOWBROS WW@??
>>336846921
>correcting grammar on a Vietnamese crab trading forum
>correcting grammar when you got blown the fuck out
>>336846973
The 8% completion rate is because no one wants to bother with the terribly boring chalice dungeons. Yharnam herself is actually extremely easy.
>>336846984
This is just a plain wrong lie
>>336846973
NK is way easier to reach than Yharnam. I'd say he is harder to fight than Yharnam, but to fight Yharnam, you need to beat defiled dog and defiled amy, and those two are harder than NK considering they are pretty much 1 hit kills.
>>336846640
>Starts with the knight class
>Take half the damage that takes the thief
>Has an armor which is better than 2/3 of the rest of the armors
>Summons like crazy to the point that you can't invade new players without being in a 3v1 fight.
>Bloodborne has nothing which can compare
>Gives you no other choice than rolling.
It is harder for a newcomer, but depending of your build DS3 can be way harder. Good players have died against Iudex Gundyr.
>Onlyafro died less than 10 times in his entire vanilla BB playthrough
>Died 3 times on Iudex Gundyr.
>>336847024
So...this....is the power of Bloodborne...whoah
>>336846921
Not him, but pointing out grammar errors pretty much means you got nothing.
>>336846869
Or maybe your out of arguements. Anf pulling shit out your ass
>>336847061
LONDOR
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>>336846640
Bloodborne is MUCH harder than any other Souls game. This shouldn't even be a debate.
The dlc and those deeper chalices .. *shudder*.
>>336847065
The only thing that got blown the fuck out here is the english language
>>336847132
Now that I realize you're autistic I'll be ignoring you and probably closing this dumbass thread. I've platinumed bloodborne, I know exactly what I'm saying when I talk about it. I've also actually played the other games to compare
t. autist-kun, you'll give FFXV-kun a run for his money with this.
>>336847024
>>336846960
yeah nah
dash is broken and BB is easy in general
Game is great but holy fuck , game is overrated as fuck
I prefer DS3 but BB is on third place so yeah its a great game but overrated.
>>336847215
>*shudder*
This thread is full of posts like this. Are sonyggers all 10 years old or are people just trolling?
DaS1 == BB > DaS3 > DeS >>> DaS2
>>336847179
Angry PC mustard detected
>>336847364
It's literally one retard
>>336847132
Not the guy you're responding too, but I agree that DS3 has the harder hitting enemies. Now everything I offer is anecdotal evidence, but I usually play with only around 20 vitality. That carried me trough out every souls game and bloodborne until DS3. Enemies are chunking off life like no tomorrow. The fucking knights in the early game have a chance to two-shot you. Pretty much every ''elite'' enemy has this ability, or even fucking oneshotting you.
If it was up to me, I would nerf enemy dmg by around 30% (not including bosses, they're fine)
>>336847136
Ik man obviously. But the previous poster was arguing chalice dungeons are harder then NK.
And simply put yeah they are. Yharn Woman is crazy too unless you look up online guides. Even then its still pretty hard.
>>336847364
It's simply an expression. You wouldn't understand because you haven't played Bloodborne, that much is clear.
>>336847132
Bloodborne enemies do very little damage. Next to nothing can oneshot you in the base game at level 4. Maybe you just get hit after rolling a lot? Counter damage is the only reason you could think the enemies hit hard
>>336846973
>its not the fact that chalice dungeons are the most bored shit ever
pd: some guy that got BB platinum offline , fuck that shit.
>>336847535
I have no idea what you're even saying at this point but I fully understand that you're retarded
>>336847354
congratulations on finding someone's platinum screenshot
Doesn't change the fact that you are wrong about everything you've posted in the thread regardless of whether you had the platinum kr not
Why are you even calling me an autist so soon ? Just because I called you out on a wrong statement ?
That's shallow even for a PC cuck
>>336847364
I was the poster he wrote that too. Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
Even though it is true.
>>336846640
Bloodborne's more punishing because the vials you use are lost, and a tough zone or boss can kill your momentum by forcing you to rack up vials or echoes or both, unless you stockpile instead of leveling.
Flasks let you leap right back into the action after you die, not to mention that by the last third of the game a flask heals you for 3/4s of your HP
>>336847632
So you've played BB then?
>>336847486
>Yharn Woman is crazy too unless you look up online guides
You mean Yharnam? What the fuck could give you that impression?
Are BB fans really this stupid
>>336847632
>babby souls player can't read english
nigga, I knew those games were easy, but sheeet
>>336846973
Yharnam is not a factor of hard, it's a factor of bothering to grind that shit out.
>>336847704
t. autist-kun
>>336847720
>because the vials you use are lost
The game also throws them at you, and they're cheap to buy. Only extremely terrible people run out.
>>336847704
>BB fans ask for proof that you completed the game
>give it to them
>y...you just uploaded someone else's screenshot!
This is why no one wants to bother with you retards
This thread is also full of samefagging to make it look like people enjoy BB more.
I'm still rockin' Bloodborne.
I'm finishing up the Chalices for the final Trophies.
I think I'm on my last two Trophies, and then I'll have a Platinum Trophy as well the DLC completed.
Then I'll hop into DSIII, and honestly I think it's gonna be hard getting back into DS due to the different mechanics.
>>336847895
It's rather that people are arguing with each other, m8.
>>336847626
>got the platinum trophy offline.
>so if i call his bullshit he can say offline bruh.
Chalice dungeons were boring because they all looked the fucking same. Really bad chalice dungeon design.
But it was fun because of all the bosses and enemies that were hidden from the main game.
Some amazing boss fights most people never experience because how shit the levels were.
But grinding top tier bloodgems, finding the top tier runes, lost and uncanny version of weapons was lots of fun.
The chalice dungeon was for the people who beat the game got to level 80 and gave them yet another skill ceiling and challenges similiar to when you first play the game.
>>336847753
yeah i knew they were easy but...*shudder* people who play them can't even read LOL
>>336847867
You know you can just turn on your ps4 and set up a password and co-op with anyone who thinks you are lying right ?
That would be much more effective
>>336847938
It'll be easy. Same engine, you'll now what I mean when you play it. My suggestion would be to play with the ludwigs holy greatsword and then basically any Greatsword weapon in DS3.
>>336848105
Yeah let's do a coop session everytime we talk about Bloodborne
You guys are really desperate for an active multiplayer right now aren't you? kek
>>336848205
No,if someone doubts the fact that you have the game,only then
>>336848037
I agree, it was a shame chalices would become so stale after just a bit. I would have preferred a more linear design, without this gimmick ''Every dungeon is unique!'' bullshit. What the hell where they thinking while designing them?
>>336848105
What would that do besides end up with me carrying their retarded ass? Or the person claiming I'm lying actually not having the game at all. I don't need to prove what I know I've done to some faggot ass retard who does this every day
>>336848037
>But it was fun
no they weren't
shit was repetitive as fuck
Enemies didn't worth it
>Some amazing boss fights most people never experience because how shit the levels were.
sadly this one , Hotdog was a neat fight and also the oldies.
>But grinding top tier bloodgems, finding the top tier runes, lost and uncanny version of weapons was lots of fun.
nah man , it got boring aafter a while
also Chalice are part of the "story"
>>336848302
Which happens everytime BB is mentioned in a not 100% positive light
>>336848359
I'm not stating it as a compulsion but it's the definitive way to prove someone wrong if they think you haven't played the game , otherwise there'll always be a loophole like stolen screenshot,etc
>>336848545
I don't care what they think. My dad doesn't work at Nintendo and I'm not the one claiming outlandish stupid ass lies about basic game mechanics like how much a fucking blood vial heals.
>>336848537
And this is an exaggeration
Only when someone claims something foolish right after saying he played BB is when this happened.
Even in this thread it was started by the guy who kept giving wrong boss details for BB bosses
>>336848342
Who fucking knows. It lacked the pretty thought out plans and designs of a normal souls game.
And the main chalices are not prodecurally generated. They are always the same. Such a shit job
>>336848702
Then don't
They'll just keep dismissing you since to them you can't prove any of that , no matter if the reality is that you don't want to
>>336848887
>you can't prove any of that
I don't have to prove bloodvials heal 40% of HP when it's common knowledge if you've played the game for 10 minutes. There's only one rune which changes it and it adds a whopping 2% to the heal
>>336848724
Yeah like the guy who claimed blood vials heal 40% of your health? because they do
Or that Gehrman can roll? because he can
You do not own Bloodborne if you don't think Bloodborne is perfect in every way
>>336848793
It's funny with how much lazy design the souls series gets away. Besides the chalices, every souls game expect bloodborne could use another 30% of polish.
>>336848968
I don't know about that but from what I've gotten from keeping the track of conversation,the bone of contention was in which game do enemies hit harder bb vs das3
>>336848887
What the fuck are you on about. Not the dude your replying too but still
>tfw 2 years later and bloodborne is still marauding the pcuck anoos
>tfw lying pcucks that haven't played the game pretend they have and it's obvious that they're full of shit
>tfw no game in the history of /v/ has caused this much asshurt and damage control
>tfw no end in sightjust how I like it 2bh :^)
>>336848887
Blood vials do heal 40% of your health, you immense retard
>>336849025
>You do not own Bloodborne if you don't think Bloodborne is perfect in every way
fucking hate this mentality mate
Also Gundyr, Dancer > every boss battle non chalice/dlc on bloodborne , but that is just my opinion
>>336849113
The answer is DaS3
>>336849049
I consider the chalice dungeones at least 50 percent worth of content. Like more than half the bosses are locked in there.
The dungeones needed at least 40 percent more polish and way better designing.
The main game and DLC is amazing though 10/10.
>>336849247
actually its around 35%
>>336849025
Those were 2 different people
And one of them accepted his fault
>>336849252
Gundyr and Dancer are better than the chalice bosses too.
>>336849383
Learn2math
>>336849383
Technically it's 38.76%, you lying PCuck.
>>336849283
Even if it is,who's going to take your word for it ?
Either people will want to see if you actually own the game (you know the drill for that) or some other citation
>>336849404
What fault? Both of those things are true
>>336823754
Play Dark Souls 3 first. If you play Bloodborne first then DS3 will feel like a disappointment in comparison. It's a huge step down.
>>336849252
Are you saying the dancer and. Champ gundyr are harder then base game and dlc BB?
Or you in your opinion like them more?
Because Bloodborne bosses were harder and the trophies completion prove that
>>336849625
This post wasn't a new IP btw :^)
BB fans are really desperate
>>336845392
I played Demon's Souls through for the first time back to back with my very first Dark Souls playthrough.
I found Dark Souls much, much harder.
>>336849623
The guy who claimed Gehrman couldn't roll accepted he was wrong
>>336849572
>Even if it is,who's going to take your word for it ?
Someone capable of comprehending math. DaS3 enemies do the largest numbers.
The hardest hitting enemies in BB are the giant fish guys in the village. Nearly every single "knight" type of enemy in DaS3 does the same or more damage. The only exception is the grab attack the giants without a weapon use because I believe it's instant death cuz that nigga eat you.
>>336849689
>Because Bloodborne bosses were harder and the trophies completion prove that
don't know that mate , maybe is my playstyle but those are the "hardest" bosses on ds3 for me. Also i like both A LOT.
BB in comparison were really nromal to easy to beat. Rom was neat but not hard and the human ones like Log , Gascoig and Gherman were neat boss pvp battles. Sadly i think like the other bosses in comparison and found them easy.
Again this is just my opinion
>>336849918
Again those are just hollow words especially since you won't prove you've played BB to anyone and you won't give any citation to your claims
>>336829746
>playing the game for difficulty
i like the guy but every time he brings this up i want to smack him. souls was NEVER about difficulty. also
>i hate ds3 because its not hard enough
what a fucking baby holy shit
>>336830826
>BB then DS2 then DS3
why? you're right about everything else, but this just seems odd. i thought DS2 was piss easy, and i beat the game with base adp as deprived, didn't even know what the hell it did until after, just thought there were shit hitboxes.
>>336850140
You'll just have to take my word for it autist-kun.
>>336850140
You've been spouting this shit for the whole thread yet you haven't proven you played either BB or DaS3 either
Also do you really think people will do a coop session or post a picture of a game with a timestamp (just to be called liars anyway) everytime they want to talk about a game?
You seem retarded
>>336850310
ad-hom doesn't help with it really,I won't take your word for it anyway though. good attempt however
>>336850037
Yea your opinion is your opinion and that fine man.
The reason i bring up trophy completion rate nowadays is cause i see a lot of exageration of BB bosses being easy on here. And its like come on either you played the game or your lying cause playing through the game blind fucking sucks how tough it is compared to DAS3 or any game.
But your opinion is your opinion. In ny honest opinion i think Lorian and Lothric boss battle on new game plus is one of the hardest boss battles of the entire souls series while everything else is a joke in das3 including gundyr.
>>336850427
Why are we going in circles,this only happens when people start making wrongclaims,If people make claims and back them up in the post itself with something more than "becuase I said so" this would never happen
It isn't nearly as regular as you are trying to make it out to be
As far as me having to prove that I've played the games mentioned is concerned , I would do that if I was asked to since I'm free right now.
>>336850751
What "wrongclaims"? Like the fact that DS3 enemies hit harder? They do.
>>336850638
Yeah that is why i think bloodborne has a low rate trophy %.
If you don't get used to the BB dash you are going to die alot.
The first time i was scaried about Pearl , then i learn how to dash and boy it was easy , also the stun doesn't help him either.
If you don't get used to the combat you will drop the game on woods. But if you learn how to dodge the game is very easy to learn and complete.
>>336850427
Bruh 40 percent of all people who played bloodborne never beat Papa G.
So lets pretend everyone who says they played bloodborne on here actually did. Out of 10 posters only 6 beat Papa G.
40 percent of all posters are bullshiting at the least about the game.
Bloodborne gets people mad. Especially the PC, Xbox crowd who never got the chance to play it and give up
>>336850894
Wasn't even talking about that , although I could use better phrasing.
Unverified claims like that yes,when people start throwing those around people start asking questions
>>336824142
>magic
no
>>336851056
Yeah and 30 percent of people never beat Iudex Gundyr. So let's assume 30 percent of all posters are bullshitting about the game while we're at it?
Your logic is fucking stupid and "b-but you didn't play it!" isn't an argument. Address the points themselves and prevent your autism from spilling out
>>336851038
Your not wrong theres a skill ceiling that makes the game harder then most games. But what games dont get easy once you git gud man.
The problem is getting good in bb is actually hard. And the CO Op system is shit. Fucking bells.
But paarl is super easy compared to the real monster in the chalice dungeon the silverbeast version of him just saying.
my opinion > yours
pure autism: the thread
>>336824142
Pyromancy makes the game a joke, like every other souls game
>>336849736
Jesus Christ. You're like that little shit kid who sits in the front of class.
On an anonymous fucking image board.
You want to see desperation?
>>336851308
Papa G is the very first non optional boss retard.
Meaning 40 percent of players got filtered by the first boss.
Meaning there opinions dont mean shit.
Unlike Champ which is a late game boss.
Retard
>>336851481
congagulations, your a meme
>>336849736
Desperate for what? It's the better game.
>>336851353
>the silverbeast version of him
It's Darkbeast, not Silverbeast. Loran Darkbeast. You didn't play the game, post a picture with a timestamp and your face on it or fuck off
>>336851549
Iudex Gundyr is the first boss in the game.
>>336851570
shut up kid i'll deck you in
>>336851353
>chalice dungeon the silverbeast version of him just saying.
He wasn't a challenge or easy
The camera on that battle on the other hand , same problem with the headless worm boss.
>The problem is getting good in bb is actually hard.
Maybe but when the game click on you , the game is a breeze and thank god we got the dlc.
Also i am always going to say this
NPC/Human battles > boss battles.
That one in the cathedral , so fucking good.
>>336851647
Desperate for players, since the online is dying and people moved on to better games already. Like Dark Souls 3
>>336851681
basipally, your a mreme
>>336851672
Yeah and 95 percent of all players beat him.
While 40 percent quit at fucking Papa G.
>soulsfags and sonygerrs shitting their pants at each other
I'd like to watch you plebs try monhun and cry that you can't even beat the first egg delivery missions fucking beta faggots :^3
>>336851851
MH is easy and boring
>>336851740
The onlines been dead since Jan.
>>336851847
I'm not the guy from before. I was just stating that the boss he mentioned is the first boss in the game. Apparently, he was wrong about the stats or wrote down the wrong name.
In any case, to be fair, I'd be willing to wager that a decent chunk of that 40% just put the game down after dying once or twice and told themselves that they'd just play it again someday. I'd also be willing to wager that a lot of people who purchased Bloodborne aren't exactly fans of the series and just got it because it was a new, hyped game on a console that they own, so they weren't ready for that type of game and got stomped.
>>336851768
i swear to god i'll shit on your face
>>336851740
Most people arent really into BB for the online, so there goes that point...
And yeah, DaS3 is the NEWER game, therefore more people will be playing it, obviously. I'm currently running NG+ in it right now, and havnt played BB since I bought DaS3, but BB is still the better game.
>play Bloodborne completely offline
>can still get all the trophies with no real need for grinding
>play DS2 and DS3 offline
>have to do an extreme amount of grinding because some of the trophies are linked to online covenants
I personally like to play online, but linking trophies to online shit is always super annoying. They should have just stuck to the Bloodborne method.
>>336852028
Still ten times harder and more interesting than your soulsbabby games, prepare to die buddy! :>)
>>336852242
Cool opinion
>>336852397
That's not exactly an achievement. It's still pretty easy and boring
>>336852113
I honestly see and its very possible everything you said.
However when people talk shit saying BB is easy and DaS3 is so much harder the only proof to the contrary is simply completion trophy rates proving otherwise.
>>336852516
Ooh! timestamp you with a pic of your copy of the game faggot pcuck :D
Bet you didn't play it!
>>336852281
Why play bloodborne offline.
Invaders are fun and rare so.
>>336852687
That only applies for Bloodborne, and only because it's the best game ever made. you don't get to do that with other games, sorry. Nice try though
>>336824693
Isn't no fap more detrimental to your health than over fapping? Or is it a mental thing
>>336852847
guess you didn't play it salty faggot, I win just like always :'~)
>>336852281
>spend 2 hours grinding grass
>spend 3 hours grinding ears
>always on auto-summon
>got summoned like 4 times only
easily the most dull and grueling grind of my life. I had like 5 million souls off silver knights alone.
>>336852696
I'm just saying that you can get all the trophies offline, if you want. Nothing is tied to online because tying trophies to online is silly. Eventually, the online in a given game will die out.
Imagine how fucked people are in DS3 if they level up too much or aren't able to play online, for some reason. Grinding for all of those covenant items are absolute shit. Hell, maybe they just want the covenant rewards and not the trophies. You can't even get some of the in-game items without playing online or grinding your ass off for hours and hours. In a Souls game. Really?
>>336852281
>muh trophies
Who even gives a shit?
>>336853461
me
I have the platinum in every one, even sotfs, I can't stop now
>>336823754
That depends
Want Bloodborne to be decently hard PvE with shit PvP? Play DaS3 first
Want DaS3 to be a fucking cakewalk in PvE with good PvP? Play Bloodborne first
>>336853626
I'm sure someone will do an eulogy about your plats when you die
>>336854026
Wouldn't really call DaS3 PvP good
>>336854437
Its way quicker to get fights then BB. Bb pvp was usually a one sided fight.
Mainly because of gen farming.
And i loved it. Thise top teir gems let me crush everyone
>>336854229
Why be a dick.
I enjoy platinuming souls games too. Only cause its fun.
Dark Souls: 800+ hours over multiple characters with multiple playthroughs.
Dark Souls 2: ~350 hours with one playthrough and multiple characters.
Dark Souls 3: <100 hours with multiple characters and quitting usually after abyss watchers.
Like what the fuck is going on? This game is just fucking boring as shit and a fucking chore to play now. Why?
>>336855510
nice blog.
>>336855687
Found the DaS3 kiddie.
>>336846984
>Dark souls 3 has the hardest hitting enemies
100% horseshit.
>>336855510
Because it's a lazy rehash that does nothing new.
Best heroine.
