Is anyone planning on buying Stellaris? It looks fun (32 multiplayer games)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Huuacl6oqI
Yes, I got it.
Yes, it looksfun.
But pls stop shilling
>>336791235
I just saw the trailer minutes ago how am I shilling?
I like how a game with genocide and slavery can be pegi 12 just because its only numbers and texts/small pics
>>336790595
pirate then buy goddammit
After watching the GB coverage of it, I'm definitely planning on picking it up.
>>336791582
>Stellaris allows you to enslave/genocide/forcibly genetically alter countless billions of sentient species provided you play for long enough
>Hearts of Iron 4 can't even show a swastika and Hitler's face is censored in the German release
>>336791378
Everyone that doesn't immediately disparage a game is shilling, so you are shilling.
That being said I pre-ordered it.
i need a game to tide me over for 2 days. this is torture. any suggestions? I tried overwatch but im bored of that shit
ready up your Stellaris Empire Designer boys
>>336792586
Moo3, Galactic Civ 3?
>>336792586
playing ovrewatch and tf2 while i wait too
>>336791378
In every thread you ask people to buy it. Just fuck off already.
>>336792672
>Moo3
i heard 2 is the best?
>>336791378
mentioning video games on /v/ is shilling, so please stop and post some hentai pages
>>336792660
Am I the only one who can't make up my mind because it's not ingame designer? feels soulless. I will choose traits at release in game.
>>336792672
>Moo3
>>336790595
I've had it pre-ordered, looking forward to it. Paradox games are fun for the first 1,000 hours or so before they inevitably fuck it up with their retarded balancing.
>>336792660
Can't decide between playing a utopian, diplomatic researcher peacefag, and a subjugating, enslaving and purging empire.
>>336790595
Stop fucking making same thread everytime old one dies
Wait at least day to properly discuss game
Last one already was pathetic with people desperately bumping it every 20 minutes
>>336790595
I'm probably going straight in to multiplayer with a 15 player drop in game before people learn the minimax strats
>>336792792
I meant the remake on Steam, MoO3 did in fact suck.
Who Mass Effect humans here?
>>336792936
I'm the same, not sure what's up with that
How does the multiplayer work in a game about pausing?
>>336792225
>Hitler's face is censored in the German release
That is so fucking pointless. There is no law forbidding you to show his face.
>>336793249
The host controls the game speed.
I preordered it, am hype as fuck. I loved eu4 and ck2. My girl preordered it too. Gonna set an alarm and wake up at 2AM when it launches in Australia to download it so we can play it in the morning. We are both gonna call in sick to work and play multiplayer for two days. It's gonna be so fuckin' sick.
I'm gonna play as some dank insectoid industrious materialists. Have watched a bunch of streams on the game.
>>336793114
I didn't even think of that, everyone scrambling to figure things out. Nobody knowing whats going on other than that one guy going full AI to maybe proc a glorious machine revolution...
It's gonna be great.
>>336793274
He's a holy figure in Germany, like Muhammed. Can't show his face.
>>336793274
Still amazes me that Nintendo approved a game about blowing up Hitler with a rocket launcher.
>>336793142
is the remake better then 2?
>>336791378
>shilling
Boy _GAME_â„¢ sure looks fun! Here, look at this official concept art and have a link to this official trailer video for _GAME_â„¢! Let's discuss _GAME_â„¢!
>actual hype thread
[genuine discussion of game mechanics]
>>336793393
They did in HOI3.
Looks fun as fuck. Never been into grand strategy anything sci fi grabs me
>>336793428
I've heard good things, I think it's doing the early access thing though so I'm holding back for now.
I did get a poster at PAX East signed by the team though.
Who /grossgermanius/ ?
I am going to build a liquor factory empire
Pls buy it's only 49$
>>336793498
got it for 30 at gmg using coupon code
>>336793482
>Stellaris
>/gsg/
Wew lad
>>336793482
Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.
>>336793445
What about a shill post to start then a discussion of game mechanics? Can you reach shill equilibrium?
>>336793646
This
he was such a great character. i cant believe nurse rachetstayed it in it for so long
im ready to drop asterioids and colonies and shiet
>>336793872
There are no space colonies.
But it's paradox so I'm sure there'll be a $20 zeon DLC soon enough
I can't wait to pirate it
Can't wait to try some 40k stuff
>>336793987
>adeptus mechanicus
>materialist
bad choice. Literally all your flavor text the whole game will be composed wholly of fedora tipping. Materialist is reddit, the ethic.
>>336794114
huh
>>336794230
your ethics and government choices determine flavor text of events all throughout the game. and if you pick materialist everything will be fedora tier. I'm warning you, it's fucking intolerable. Like I'm an atheist but materialist is LOOK HOW RIGHT AND INTELLIGENT AND ATHEIST AND CORRECT WE ARE WHY DON'T GIRLS LIKE US
>>336791235
Two thread max on /v/ and it's well kept, even if it's shilling we keep all the discussion well with in the thread.
Not saying shilling is ok either.
>>336794114
this game locks research techs behind materialist trait.
which makes sense. if you didnt care about material posessions there would be no iphone, tablets, personal entertainment devices etc etc materialism drives progress
(collectivism creates famine and failure)
Is the game going to focus on individual characters as CK2 does?
>>336794619
nope. check the vidoes on youtube. there are at least 50 hours of developers (marketer, tbqh) playing the game
>>336794619
Not really.
>>336794619
Nope, not even close. There are leaders but they're basically just little cards that give bonuses.
Is there anything about spy networks in the game? I haven't seen any mention of this kinda thing
>>336794753
>>336794731
>>336794707
>>336794702
Ahhh thanks anons. Too bad.
>>336794805
>spies
not sure but how would spies work? you'd have to persuade aliens to betray their own SPECIES. this probably would only work on xenophiles to start. Not like you can infiltrate your fungi spies into a feline species government/military is it
>>336794937
that said, you could have a spy unit that provides map revealing and sight
>>336794805
>>336794937
I read something about spy droids that basically wear corpses as a disguise or something in the last thread, not sure if that was just an anon making shit up though.
>>336795040
sounds like somebody making shit up
I'd love to be able to make terminators though.
>>336795040
sounds bullshit. didnt see anything like that in the vidoes, but admittedly i didnt watch every minute. there are too many
>>336793047
A xenophobic kept to itself enslaving empire
purge the ayy and slave the lowest of humans
Space Soviet Union
post yours
http://stellarisspeciesgen.com/
>>336795246
Guess that designer doesn't follow the rules of the actual game.
>>336795246
>http://stellarisspeciesgen.com/
>3 fanatic traits
the trait section of that generator is broken
>>336795246
>Xenophobe
>Soviet Union
AYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>336795492
>>336795493
The point calculator is just broken. Prints the calculation instead of actually doing it.
>>336794937
I still remember the day of MoO2 when my spies stole enemy tech and blame the other aliens for that, ruining their relationship
>>336795192
Nah. My empire is not xenophobic. Whether you are human or alien, you'll be chained and enslaved. And if you start to get any strange ideas that are against the state, you get purged.
>>336795246
How did I do?
>>336796813
>Imperium
>Not an empire
>>336796973
>Actually thinking the imperium is an empire.
When Big E wasn't a corpse it was, ever since he got glassed by Horus it became an oligarchy
>>336796813
Slow learners and weak?
>>336797079
No you heretic, the High Lords of Terra know the Emperors will and we see his will made reality through them.I'm not serious
>>336797165
Humans aren't really tough, there are exceptions tho. And knowledge is REALLY limited.
>>336797298
True but they have the Astartes..
Well yeah the second I'll give it to you.
I haven't followed this game at all
What does this do better / different than other 4X games?
>>336797457
It turns into proper Grand Strategy after a while
>>336797431
>Astartes
>Humans
Come on, famalam
>>336797457
It's a grand strategy game instead of a 4X game.
>>336797543
Modern EUIV-style of GS or the classic HOI/EUIII type of GS?
Can someone make the Tau Empire traits for me? I cant wait to play as the superior galactic commies
>>336796813
>imperium of man
>weak
>energy weapons
>>336797659
>Humans
>Not weak
Space Marines aren't human.
>THERE AREN'T ENERGY WEAPONS ON TERRA.
ayy lmao.
who /fremen/ here
>>336795246
I wish they had cybernetic races to choose from.
>>336790595
I pre ordered, just 2 days now..
>>336797634
This could work
Rate my turtle civilization. Can't think of a name.
>>336790595
>Create robots
>Create robots everywhere
>Purge native species
>Replace with robots
>Purge founding species
>Replace with robots
>Make everything robots
>Robots robot robots
>>336795246
Can someone roll me up a Cardasian Empire please?
>>336797975
>3 regular ethics and 1 fanatical ethic
No, it couldn't. Literally.
>>336798118
>robots revolt
>die immediately
great plan brah
>>336798118
>Purge founding species
>Replace with robots
You can't.
Well, you can, but you would lose at that point.
Can't wait to create my very own benevolent space monarchySIEG KAISER REINHARDO
>>336790595
All xenos shall be purged and purified in the emperors holy light
>>336797989
make the leadership something Committe
>>336798186
what are they like
WILL THIS GAME LET ME PLAY AS THE BLONDE BRAT?
>>336798364
Fug. I just want to be robots.
>>336793331
Come on, there's no need to project man
Why is warp the objectively best travel method?
>>336798186
Here you go.
>>336798546
I'm sure there'll be a mod for a robot race the moment the game comes out.
>>336798540
I don't think they have hair like that for humans.
>>336798392
>>336798540
>Not playing a benevolent space """"democracy"""""
>>336791378
We have had a fuck ton of threads recently thats all.
I too have preordered, in fact a fuckton of people have
>>336798619
Could you do a Ferengi one please?
Hyper materialistic traders.
>>336798776
>""""""democracy"""""""
I can't wait to make a Galactic British Empire
What site are you making these on I want to give it a go.
>>336798486
>Warp travel
>Not Wormhole travel
>Fanatic militarist
>Not Fanatic Xenophobe
>STRONG
>MISSILE WEAPONS
>DESPOTIC
>>>>>>>EMPIRE
Are you making astartes or IG?
Is lotgh the greatest anime of all time?
>>336798585
Because it doesn't rely on external infrastructure. Fleets relying on warp drive can appear anywhere in enemy space and are practically immune to ambushes. Unlike hyperspace which forces people to use specific, well known highways or wormhole tech which is entirely reliant on space stations for travel.
Using warp drives is also far cooler.
I guess I'll FINALLY have something to fill the void that Space Empires left
I just hope ship design is as intensive.>tfw you will never sneak another cloaked suicide ship equipped with a star destroyer into you're enemies home system and annihilate them from the inside out
>>336798939
see
>>336795246
Careful though, the ethics thing is broken, you can only have three regular or one regular and one fanatical ethic.
>>336798961
Pre horus heresy empire. And when did the imperium build wormhole stations?
Arumba inspired me to go for a pragmatic science directorate. Fucking transhumans? That's rad as fuck.
>>336798931
Oberstein did literally nothing wrong
>>336799149
When they started using the warp.
Did you read the "Warp Travel" description?
Reinhard fags get out, he wouldn't have gotten anywhere if it wasn't for Oberstein
>>336798961
>>336798961
Jump drives are probably the closest thing to 40k space travel that's in the game, can't start with those though.
Who here limiting all the races to hyperdrives?
>>336799203
Warp drives, or warp engines, are devices integrated into spacecraft, making them capable of a form of faster than light travel known as warp travel or warp jumping. The warp drive allows a ship to enter the warp, travelling its currents until reemerging into real space light years away from the starting point.
Thats no wormhole station son. Warp travel is the closest thing.
>>336799203
There's a pretty big diffrence between warp travel in Stellaris and the warp travel in 40k. In the former, warp drives create some kinda bubble around the ship that contracts space infront of it as it travels. In 40k they just open a wormhole to the fucking Immaterium and take a shortcut. If you want the 40k kind of warp travel then I guess you could mod it in; wormhole travel without relying on space stations to generate the wormholes for you.
>>336798546
You can go cyborg. Alternatively, build robots, release as vassal, save, resign, reload, select new robot empire. You shouldn't even need mods.
>>336798824
Sure.
But they're not materialistic as such, as Materialistic in Stellaris is more about focus on sciences.
I can't fucking wait for the inevitable LOGH total conversion mod for this game
I am legitimately fucking hype
>>336795040
They're something you can attach to your armies, not actual spies. The game has no espionage.
>>336799408
>Jump Drive
>Described as an experimental "extremely fast ship technology", this has the potential risk to "bore a hole into another dimension" populated by an empire of energy beings called the Unbidden.
>>336799459
Ahhh I see i read the trait descriptions - thanks
>>336799408
>>336799359
Welp, I forgot the part about the wormhole stations needing to be built.
>>336793646
>>336793715
Dukat did a fuckton of things wrong. He was an immensely flawed character, and that's why he was so good.
If you want a character who truly did nothing wrong, see image related.
>>336799030
>Fleets relying on warp drive can appear anywhere in enemy space
They would be spotted long before they are deep in enemy territory and the enemy would have plenty of time to prepare. Hyperlanes are A LOT faster.
>>336799509
Oh, fug. But you can't start with jump drives, can you? They're some late game shit.
Fuck, I am looking forward to tearing holes in the not-the-Immaterium and seeing my empire fall to godlike beings conjured up by masturbating xenos.
>>336799423
>You can go cyborg
Can I go full cyborg?
What if I don't want to be a fleshy anymore.
>>336799236
>Oberstein will never install lasers in his robot eyes to assassinate Reinhard and take over the Galactic Empire
would have been a neat twist, I was rooting for Ober through the whole series
>>336799587
All cool anon
Fuck, im really hyping over this game
Please buy Stellaris
PleasePLEASE
>>336799668
I'm pretty sure you can. You can also go full gene-engineer and make your pops ubermenschen, but it's very expensive
>>336799480
The only inevitable mods for space games are 40k, Star Wars and Star Trek.
You'll be lucky if someone makes a .TXT file with exclusively german sounding names.
>>336799703
I actually really liked what they did with Oberstein
Right until the very last few seconds of the entire god damn show I was convinced that he's a scheeming shit
But then it turns out that he's just legit loyal
Then I felt bad
>>336799787
I'm already making a .txt with English names only. A German one wouldn't be hard.
>>336799650
>fully moddable game
Just mod it however you like brah - I am awaiting a full 40k mod.
Gonna play as the Eldar and pull the puppet strings on all the babby races.
>>336792760
>Is anyone planning on buying stellaris?
Thinks it's the same as
>You guys should definitely buy Stellaris
Remember kids, don't act like a part of society if you have the intelligence of a rock
>fallen empires get all the cool shit like jump drives and ring worlds
Not fair.
I hope you can steal their tech if you're a bad enough dude to take one on.
>>336799763
Preaching to the choir.
Will this one have cultural (racial type) unions like eu4 did once you formed an empire?
>>336799950
You can steal their weapons and engine tech but you wont be able to build ring worlds, only conquer them.
>>336799950
Fug those ringworld appeal to me
Can someone explain Fallen Empires please?
I've only caught a few of the streams so Im not sure what they are.
>>336799936
>getting sooooooo mad
>you can't be excited about a game without being a paid shill
lol
>>336800050
Quoting the wiki;
Fallen Empires are large and extremely powerful empires that have become old and stagnant with their societies grown inward over the ages.[1] Some of these are created when the galaxy is generated at the start of every game. They have large and powerful fleets and is unwise to start a war with them unless your fleet is of equal power and should generally be left alone. If successful at conquering a Fallen Empire, it is possible to gain advanced technology from them. Only the AI can control Fallen Empires and they are not designed to be played by a human player.
>>336800050
Extremely advanced and powerful old Empires who have turned stagnate and wont expand/research anymore. They wont deal with younger races but you can piss them off by colonizing their holy world or researching dangerous technology (like AI).
>>336800050
Old Empires that have stagnated. Mostly keep to themselves unless you piss them off by being too warlike or settling on their Holy Worlds.
>>336790595
Is this basically europa universalis in space?
Because I don't like games THAT in depth...
>>336799972
Are you really from ПMP?
>>336800050
They're just old, basically dormant empires that have been around much longer than everyone else. They do get pissed and will annihilate you if you do stuff they don't like though, like researching certain potentially galaxy-dooming technologies or settling close to them.
>>336800132
>no way at all to get ring worlds
day 1 mod it is
>>336800132
Can you form alliances with fallen empires of similar ethos?
>>336800050
Think eldar in 40k or necron tomb worlds. immensly powerfull and technologically superior beings just chilling in their own corner of the galaxy, if you wake them though, youre fucked.
>>336800050
Think of them like player factions that survived the last game. Each one is at the height of its power but is suffering some huge detriment. In one of the streams (giantbomb I think) they showed one that literally couldn't expand its influence past what it already had.
>>336800050
there the core worlds of once great and very old empires that have fallen apart they're very insular but have incredibly advanced technology and powerful militaries despite the lose of significant territory
comparable to great Britain losing all their colonies but still having advanced tech and Military power
if you interact with them they might start to go out and reestablish their dominance
>>336800197
>>336800183
>>336800132
Great stuff thanks!
>>336800217
Doesn't look like it from streams I saw - more like Civ mixed with Endless Space with a bit more depth.
Nope, I'm poor as hell and I plan on spending ~$120 on some shitty butterfly knife in CS:GO.
I do look forward to Stellaris and I feel bad that I'm gonna pirate it.
>>336800217
Nah, they seem to have made it more accessible
>>336800235
You can conquer ring worlds.
>>336800217
This is the least autistic Paradox game by far.
I don't see a situation where you would ever NOT pick 'Repugnant' for free extra points. -1%? I can't foresee 1% meaning jack shit.
>>336800302
>I'm poor as hell and I plan on spending ~$120 on some shitty butterfly knife in CS:GO
Maybe you should re-evaluate your life choices.
>>336800237
I don't think you'll be able to forge alliances with Fallen Empires, but you'll be able to maintain embassies with them to try to stay on their good side. At best; they'll just treat you like the minor, undeveloped race you are. At worst; they fuck your shit up.
Apparently there are 4 diffrent types;
Keepers of Knowledge - Fanatic Materialists - The Fallen Empire dedicates itself to the hoarding of technologies that it believes should be kept out of the hands of young and irresponsible races. Pursuing dangerous lines of research will draw their ire.
Enigmatic Observers - Fanatic Xenophiles - Empires that use slaves, or purge populations may suffer the wrath of the Observers.
Holy Guardians - Fanatic Spiritualists - This fallen empire dedicates itself to the preservation and defense of its holy sites. Colonizing systems that they consider sacred is likely to incur their ire.
Militant Isolationists - Fanatic Xenophobe - Get off my lawn. (Responds very negatively to border friction).
>>336800259
>Think eldar in 40k
YES
>>336800352
Dyson spheres are for power generation, dipstick.
>>336800302
I think I know why you are poor as shit
http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/04/18/japanese-sci-fi-novelist-yoshiki-tanaka-i-love-to-imagine-alternate-realities/#43aeb5784f5f
>New anime release
>Fall 2017
>English novels too
I can die happy
>>336800352
Ring worlds are not dyson spheres you mongoloid.
>>336800390
I think its 1percent over time, so the value accumulates.
>>336800223
Hy, ыc импepиaлиcт pyмынo-фaшыcт. ))))
>>336800404
I'm a NEET and my life is over. It's done. No hope.
I can only manage to scrap money here and there but there's nothing in life worth saving that money for so I splurge it on games and dumb cosmetics.
>>336800449
It's because I don't have a job.
>>336800591
>It's because I don't have a job.
You're poor because you're retarded with money.
>>336800461
Now start working on the stellaris mod.
We need this ball rolling.
>>336800714
I don't have enough money to be retarded with. If I had a job and had a steady income I would save most of it because the only shit I would have to pay for is the very basics (utils, food, internet, some computer stuff).
>>336799972
I hope you paid full retail price for that.
Im looking forward to the ability to uplift technologically inferior species. Ill play as weak intelligent technology hoarders and create a genetically modified sub species made specifically for combat.
This game will be fucking awesome.
>>336800390
It's 1% per pop and I think it also gives you a diplomatic penalty that the tooltip doesn't mention.
>>336800217
It looks a lot simpler than EU4. Only a few diplomacy options, no espionage system, no trade system (in the same way as EU4), less cluttered UI in general, simplified war without claims, cores, casus belli, favors, trust, and all sorts of other mechanics, etc
>>336800390
Most of the negative traits are deceptively not so bad. A lot of the negatives come from their interactions with other races' traits.
>>336800591
>complain about how your life sucks and you're poor, and you've not got enough money
>while bragging about spending $150 on a skin
You are an incredibly stupid person, Anon.
>>336800970
Tau meet Kroot
>>336801058
Wait for the larger DLCs to come out(and pirate them ofc).
>>336801097
$120 is nothing to brag about on 4chan. At best people will laugh at you for spending money on a bad knife, at worst they will insult you for spending money on cosmetic items period.
There is literally nothing I can save the $120 for so why not spend it on game shit?
>>336800970
similar to this
>>336801058
Johan wants his "shekels" as gsg and /pol/ have said
![cc0e8cad3151ef5dbdf0928a7020d2dd[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8ZQ8XZy.jpg "cc0e8cad3151ef5dbdf0928a7020d2dd[1]"){kind=small}
Straight outta /pol/
Its Adam and Eve and Blor'nax and Zerphere,
Fuck Xenos.
>>336801269
>there is literally nothing I can save the $120 for
Are you dying or something?
>>336800235
IIRC, you can find no-Fallen Empire Ring Worlds
I am expecting to be able to build them in a future expansion though
>>336800390
Since it's tied to the pops and happiness, it depends on what kind of empire you're running.
If a planet has 15 Ugly Fucks, all the other species on the planet suffer -15% to their happiness. Which is quite a lot.
Not a problem if you're playing as mono-species empire, but tough if you want to diversify your pops.
Then there's also a negative diplomacy modifier.
release when?
>>336800841
Bro, if you don't spend $150 on a fucking skin, you know howmuch money you'd have for entire video games? $150! That's three brand new games, or like 50 old ones on a steam sale, or $150 worth of heroin, or the components needed to make an exit bag to end yourself. There are so many other things you could do with that money that would be more useful to you. Fuck, make a garden or some shit with it to keep you busy, you sad sack.
Can you later tech up enough to destroy worlds or stars?
>>336798681
That's what mods are for
r8 and h8
>>336791378
It's alright.
the 300 overwatch threads are clearly not shilling at all mate.
I wasn't aware of the game until now, looks pretty interesting.
>>336801269
You're a retard and you deserve to be poor.
>>336801134
>Tau meet Kroot
Under appreciated species in 40k, ability to eat their enemies and absorb their physical traits.
Someone should make a mod for that in stellaris.
>>336801421
Monday!
anyone else playing futasari to give the universe the gift of big blue cocks?
>>336801541
>not being spiritual for meme magic
>>336790595
>PI does distant worlds
I'm hoping they don't fuck this up
>>336801479
There might be fallen empire tech for that, but not via conventional tech trees I think.
>>336801732
Previews and youtube walkthroughs look promising
>Plant
>Seen as an option during the Extraterrestrial Thursday steam event. Confirmed not to be part of the first release.[2]
I just want to be a sexy plant girl
Is there any video that give an overview of the game and how it's played? All I can find is 6000 hour lets plays
>>336793047
Enslaving and Purging is always much funner and profitable.
>>336792225
>Hitler's face is censored in the German release
Just like Muhammad.
>>336801607
Kroot are fucking awesome - I wish they would make a mercenaries codex already. I would team them up all day with some Dark Eldar.
>>336801269
How old are you, Anon? The mentality you have towards money is akin to a twelve year old with no concept of budgeting.
>>336801732
There are hundreds of hours of basically release version gameplay on youtube already. Shit's good.
>>336801479
>>336801818
Developers said there are no super weapons that can destroy stars or planets but they may be added in the future.
>>336801479
They said that doomsday weapons is a planned minor dlc, so if there is nothing like that in the base game you can expect it in the future
>>336801841
Your race doesn't even affect anything. I'm hoping they're saving the plants and maybe crazier shit like silicon based life forms for a DLC that makes race matter somehow.
>>336801887
Fuck that would be good
>Le evil robots if you give them sentience meme
When will it stop?
>Last thread infested with logh weebs
>This thread infested with 40k retards
What's next the thread for Star Trek nerds?
>>336801709
>pick spiritual
>conquer worlds by sending "if u don't cede ur territory 2 us in 24hr pupper will kill ur mom in her sleep tonite" image macros
I don't usually do pre-orders, but I feel fairly confident that this will at least be worth my money.
I really wish I could say the same about the Master of Orion remake.
Im excited for the anime girl mods. It will be fun setting up your waifus as empires and figuring out what ethos and traits suit them
>>336802078
But it's not like that.
There's a chance of it happening, nothing more.
Just like there's a chance of your empire fracturing and annihilating your loyalists.
>>336802065
That and their artists needed to work on other assets for other games.
>>336801541
>>336801709
this
>>336801887
GW seems to be neglecting the Tau client races all together theyre a pretty interesting side to the Tau lore
>>336802101
Yeah, and to add salt to open wound, your fucking ass is here.
>No fun allowed on videogame thread concerning space
>kill yourself
>>336801308
>not industrious
terribly memed
>it isn't character based like CK2
>>336802065
>Your race doesn't even affect anything.
It has a small effect on diplomacy, races in the same category as yours will like you more.
Other than that you're right though.
>>336802138
>You have been visited by the Shitposters of Forchan
>Good luck and fortune will come to you but only if you accept our vassal request.
>>336802101
>grand strategy space game with huge modding capability
>surprised popular scifi universe people are exited about it
>>336802314
Wait really?
Are there no character-relations at all?
>>336802314
That wouldn't work well with democracies.
>>336802261
How about talking about the actual game instead of how badly you want to die choking on space marine dick, faggot?
>>336802314
Glad they didnt do that, wouldnt fit with the genre.
Still, crossing my figers for CK 3 at some point.
>>336801308
Is it me or is Decadent a really OP pick?
If you're going to make use of slaves anyway, it basically has no downside. It's only going to affect you early on when you don't have enough slaves yet, but beyond that it's just free points.
>>336802445
They are still milking CK II.
>try to watch pre-release videos by the devs
>very first thing I see is one of them has a man-bun and a nu-male beard
You just can't escape this shit can you
>>336800461
First couple of novels allready got translated
>>336802512
The devs are Swedish, what did you expect?
>>336802438
salty, kek
>>336802175
Zentradi/Meltran mod when
>>336802479
>It's only going to affect you early on
Yeah, I can't see how starting with a pretty significant disadvantage could present any problems.
any reason to preorder it, or can I wait until release and then buy it if it's good without missing anything?
>>336802261
>>336802387
How about instead of projecting your fandom faggotry onto the game you talk about the fucking game for a change?
You're as bad as those faggots who turn CK2 threads into Game of Thrones fanfiction discussion.
>>336802506
I know, and unfortunately the engine is really showing its age at this point..
>>336802387
I can't wait for people to mod all the vanilla races into anime girls
>>336802479
>Fallen Empire that hates slavery next to you
>You can never enslave AI neighbours
>>336802565
Thanks for proving you're an offtopic shitposting fucktard.
>>336802314
I really want Paradox to expand the internal politics system. I'm ready to shove them my money for that.
>Backstabbing family scheming, marriages and incest with autocracies.
>Party politics, voter manipulation and deals with democracies.
>Doctrinal schisms and pope voting in theocracies.
And so on.
>>336802512
nope, long hair is fun to manipulate
buns are good for formal or work events but master race is thick, curly pony tail or just down
>tfw can't grow anything but a fu manchu and neck beard
>>336791378
Johan get out
>>336802746
>I'm ready to shove them my money for that
Please go back to where ever you came from and take your decade old meme with you
>>336802583
>tfw no 'giant specie' trait.
Just take super strong and resilient famalan doowah.
>>336802314
What do you mean by that?
Because there are *characters*, like scientists, admirals, generals, governers, etc. that you assign to respected fields, and they level up and gain traits.
>>336802726
Calm down fuckboy, your autism is showing
>>336802746
They're probably going to focus on different aspects of the game with different DLCs, like they did with CK2 and EU4. I'd be surprised if there wasn't going to be a politics-focused DLC somewhere along the line.
>>336801269
>There is literally nothing I can save the $120 for
What the fuck is wrong with you? You can buy good food for an entire month with that money.
It's truly horrifying that there exist idiots that think themselves poor yet spend $120 on something so inconsequential AND can't imagine what else they HAVE TO SPEND IT ON.
Truly beyond hope.
>>336802841
They play a small role. Think of HoI ministers and what not.
>Find the largest Gaia world possible
>Conquer every race you come across
>Relocate a single populace to that planet
>Purge the rest
>Space Zoo
>>336802989
They should add prison worlds in a DLC.
>>336802828
Super strong takes 4 points though, guess we will need modding
Can I see some nice alien titties in this?
Does anyone know what "Research alternatives: +1" mean for the Science Directorate?
>>336803072
prob more choices for techs u can research
Someone link me a 20+ hour gameplay video of this so I can decide if it's worth my time.
>>336803072
You get 4 instead of 3 possible researches.
>>336803051
yea, but they shrink themselves to fight so are they still super strong
Space Eastern roman empire anyone?
>>336802445
>CK 3
What would be the point?
Unless they make a new engine it'd just be Clausewitz again with essentially the same features but this time dumber and limited to Christians around 1066 again like with EU III -> IV essentially just being a dumber game with fewer features until it got like 3 expansions, now it's just a dumber game.
>>336803058
Not unless you use custom portraits.
WEConsidering the modding scene is completely overrun with SJWs where the hell am I going to be able to get my politically incorrect mods
>>336803072
From what I've seen, whenever you research something you have to chose from 3 options.
That gives you 4 options which apparently is very powerful since there some rare technologies in the game that aren't guaranteed to get, so that just drastically improve your chances to get it.
>>336803041
A planet is pretty much a prison world if you just go and enslave everyone on it.
>>336800217
>implying EUIV is 'in-depth'
not even memeing but it's the most casual paradox game
>>336790595
torrent when?
>>336803140
Watch my nigga DDRJake
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm0MDLKuRDrn4vBJ_0ZoXdK0wbKm6X4iX
>>336803273
Can you get slave uprisings?
>>336803257
That shit will take 5 minutes if it is anything like CK2 faces.
>>336803219
I dont really know, i just really enjoyed that game. Still i hope they bring back the character driven grand strategy setting at some point, that shit was fun.
>>336803257
>where the hell am I going to be able to get my politically incorrect mods
The Legends of the Galactic Heroes mod, just play the Galactic Empire
https://gineipaedia.com/wiki/Inferior_Genes_Exclusion_Act
>>336803408
You're talking as if CK II got old.
Are the grandstrategy elements of this game as casual as EUIV, or did paradox decide to go back to its roots?
>>336803257
>where the hell am I going to be able to get my politically incorrect mods
/gsg/
>>336803140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TI9tzLD8WQ&list=PLs3acGYgI1-sMt6B-eD7xWgIFAkm223pK
Most of the first video is just him talking about systems in the game.
>Someone on the Steam forums brings up questionable data collection terms in the EULA
>People tell him to shut up and accept being spied on as a normal part of modern life
I hate what happened to video games.
>>336803350
Yes.
>>336803564
>using Steam
>worrying about data collection
To be honest that is really fucking stupid, famalam.
>>336802303
It was too many points
>>336803495
I got 400 plus hours in that game now, every once in a while i start it up again but i always end up exiting. Whatever hooked me before isnt there anymore.
>>336803257
>where the hell am I going to be able to get my politically incorrect mods
Well, you already get enslaving and purging in the core game, so you can be quite politically incorrect already.
Just go ahead and purge all the pops who look black, have undesirable traits or whatever.
>>336795246
Objectively the best empire.
>>336803213
>Eastern roman empire
>wanting a Greek empire that only declines
>>336803668
And look how that turned out for people when Steam gave out hundreds of thousands of addresses and emails over Christmas with their caching fuck up.
Just paranoia right?
>>336803178
They don't. They only shrink themselves because humanity is in a constant brainwashing propaganda warfare to shrink them down, with TV spots of young prepubescent space idols explaining how it is funnier and cooler to be small like the humans.
>>336803339
When it comes out in 2 days.
>>336802512
>nu-male
Chances are this man has been making games for longer than you've been playing them, casual. He is as old, in all senses, as it gets. And it's grand strategies we're talking about so what did you even expect, toned musculature and hair gel?
At least use your memes right.
>>336803498
It looks like the least GS of anything they've done.
HoI4 will have the autism you seek.
>>336802479
But slaves can rebel...
Does this game allow me to export my playtrhough directly into my twitter feed?
>>336803815
Woosh.
>>336803815
Oh yeah, I remember all the awful things that happened to people because of that.
Oh, wait.
>>336802479
probably be a bit of a pain in the ass keeping your populations in check. Too few slaves and nobody is happy, too many and they can revolt
>>336803956
A huge faggot being a huge faggot at 50 years old is even more pathetic than some dumbshit kid getting swept up in being a faggot because he doesn't know any better. Go suck his cock some more on the Paradox forums.
>Intelligent space cockroach
>Living on ancient nuked tomb world
>Habitability 50percent for all planet types
This is the only game where i will be playing a cockroach empire.
>>336804092
Self-aggrandizing autists thinking anyone gives a shit about their e-life.
>>336801890
>>336802937
I'm a NEET that doesn't have to worry about food. I'm a NEET that has absolutely no reason to pocket $120.
What am I gonna save it for? I don't like doing anything outside my parent's house.
>>336803872
It hit me making them will have to way for a "migration fleet" expansion/mod, since they didnt have a native planet either
>>336804229
You won't be, actually.
You can't start as them.
>>336803997
>>336804157
You could do something like this to make sure everyone stays happy I guess.
>>336802479
Slaves seem underpowered. They have a huge downside in science production, revolt like crazy, make almost everybody trigger happy, and don't provide any benefit at all.
Can you be a slave?
>>336804284
I know, but you know.. Mods.
>>336804217
>middle aged men with beards are the same as nu-male millennials
go outside anon
>>336790595
already designed my race and all, so ready for monday.
>>336796813
Wow, it is like I haven't seen twenty other IoM in these threads before.
Originality/10
>>336804217
I don't even like paradox games that much, I only played some eu3 and ck2 couple of weeks in total (and not 24/7), but this lash-out on a man who actually got something out of his life by some teen who has nothing but some bullshit to say about it on 4chan because he what, doesn't like his beard? This is childish on so many levels that I feel silly that I have to actually type it out.
>>336804320
They give a 20% bonus to food and mineral tiles and you don't have to make them do research.
>>336804229
is extreme adaptability going to be the new lithovore?
>>336804092
I had to change my password because Steam gave it to Ukrainian hackers.
I used that password in multiple places too and they were also breached.
>>336804320
Go Fanatic Collectivist for +100% slavery tolerance and Despotic Empire for the extra +10% slave food & mineral production (in addition to the normal slave production bonus), and you'll get a pretty stable empire build on productive slaves.
>>336802314
Man that would be dank. I dunno maybe someone will make a dunelike grand strategy game one day
>>336801885
Ha ha ha ha, its actually true.
>Not playing as a fungi that has enslaved a race of catfolk long ago in its history.
It's like you don't want to enslave the galaxy, fempai.
>>336804612
>using the same password in multiple places
You have only yourself to blame
>>336804612
>I used that password in multiple places too
And whose fault is that? You shouldn't use the same password anywhere.
>>336804537
Not that guy, Johann is a cunt. So is Wiz AKA I can't do anything but straits.
>>336804612
Except you couldn't get login info from the caching issue they had last christmas.
>>336804648
I think Saint Peter has better stats than him
>>336804659
>>336804701
>victim blaming
If none of those sites hand it out I have nothing to worry about, why should I be blamed for their security flaws?
Are you stuck with the same FTL/weapon type the entire game or can you eventually change it somehow?
>>336804802
Those are just starting technologies, you can research new types.
>>336804802
I think your FTL stays the same, but you can change your weapon type. There are weapon types that fall outside of that categories, I've seen thunder guns and plasma
is this game EU does alpha centauri or EU does master of orion?
i'm at work and can't watch the trailer, redpill me
>>336804796
You're to blame for allowing security flaws outside your control to have a much bigger impact than they should on you.
By using the same password on multiple sites you ensure that any one of those sites getting breached gives the hacker all of them. Why would you want that?
>>336804652
>fungi that has enslaved a race of catfolk
>We are committed to upholding the invididual freedoms of our citizens in a galaxy full of alien horrors
At least they have a sense of humor
>>336804802
You can potentially come across the others in rare research opportunities, and special kinds from conquering fallen empires.
So is this one of those games that you play one long game and see pretty much everything and then never play it again, or is there actually some motivation to replay it?
>>336804284
>>336804340
in future dlc don't worry
>>336804796
>victim
There's a difference between being a victim by unforeseen circumstances and one by stupidity.
>>336804802
>weapon type
Weapon type are super easy to research for. You can switch weapon type 20 minutes in.
>FTL
There is a super FTL you can search for in the endgame (almost instantaneous transportation almost everywhere), but with a chance of inviting the Chaos to invade your dimension, and they are absolutely completely brutal.
Look for the Unbidden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sN6LQykAdM
>>336804652
There is another fungi race that is growing off another species. It is one of the preorder races.
>>336804902
This game is Vicky does warhammer
>>336804723
>Dune
My Negro brother
>>336805050
>There is a super FTL you can search for in the endgame (almost instantaneous transportation almost everywhere), but with a chance of inviting the Chaos to invade your dimension, and they are absolutely completely brutal.
Once you tech into it you're forced to suffer that chance every time you warp someplace? Or can you just use your normal FTL for normal stuff and the super FTL for important stuff?
>>336805049
I hate that we don't consider security breeches unforeseen consequences.
Why is it okay that they are expected?
>>336804902
It's closer to 4x space games. Early game is basically 4x, you fly around and explore and research, midgame is EU with different species and diplomacy and all that, lategame you got all kinds of bullshit happening from some outer space alien invasions to AI uprising if you researched it too much etc.
>>336805102
that actually sounds really great
>>336805120
You risk it every time you use the drive, but you can decide which drive to put on specific ships, obviously.
>>336805157
dont bother replying, they're either underage or too close minded to care about their privacy
>>336805157
It's not so much that they're expected as that they're out of the end user's control. You wouldn't leave your door wide open all day when you were at work when you live in a black neighborhood do you? That doesn't excuse them for burgling you, but you're still a dipshit for making it so easy.
It's supposed to be a Grand Strategy game but it looks way more like 4X to me, I do hope Civ players play it and realize Civ is shit.
>>336804796
>Why are you telling me not to play in traffic? If I get hit by a car it's the driver's fault!
>>336804802
You can research all the other types.
>>336805238
Oh ok that's good. Would be a bit scary if you lost the old drive when you got the new one.
>>336805326
Supposedly it plays more like 4X early game and more GS late game.
>>336805297
So you're telling my I should trust Steam to gather my personal data but also expect them to have a security breech, at the same time? And be perfectly okay with this?
>>336805326
>It's supposed to be a Grand Strategy game but it looks way more like 4X to me
It's a bit of both.
>>336804284
Theoretically you could artificially evolve them into intelligence and incorporate them into your empire. Then have them colonize a bunch of planets and have them make up a majority of your population. Then declare war on a neighboring empire and give them your home planet and any planets with your original species on it. Bam there you are, you're now a cockroach empire that will enlighten the galaxy one nuclear wasteland at a time.
>>336805157
If you worked in a toxic environment and got wounded solely because you didn't wear the standard protective equipment, are you or the company hiring you to blame?
Just because there isn't a hypothetical law to enforce difference passwords(which would be absurd) for different accounts, it does not mean that you are a victim if you do not even care about the most basic, common sense safety procedures.
>>336805426
They only gather as much personal data as you are willing to give them...
Anyway I'm not saying you should expect them to have security breaches all the time. Just don't consider it so far outside the realm of possibility that you fail to take basic precautions to minimize your exposure in such an event.
>>336792383
pls buy
>>336805426
It's either/or.
Either you don't trust third parties with your data, or you accept that security breaches are a thing that happens and you take steps to assure they don't affect you.
What name did you send to space?
>>336790595
Meh. Distant Worlds already exists and is way better than anything Paradicks has ever shit out.
>>336805326
the main problem with 4x is stale endgame, so if they can successfully execute a 4x with paradox style endgame it will probably be fucking mindblowing
Might switch Individualist for Militant, but considering the direction contemporary society's taking, I feel like transhumanism belongs in a society very much focused on bettering yourself in more ways than eating kale.
Well...
>>336805574
I thought they haven't started doing that thing yet.
Do you need a casus belli to invade somebody or can you just fly your fleet over whenever you like?
>>336805157
Because you can forsee it happening you fucking bernout. All systems fail. Don't be mad at the world for not fitting your delusions.
cant wait to play as a furry
>>336805565
So in the case of this specific game, of which the EULA says it wants to gather data such as "your SteamID, computer configuration, gameplay behavior and progress, browser type, platform type and software usage."
I either need to be happy with them scanning my PC for software usage, or not buy the game.
Not much of a choice.
>>336805597
>paradox style endgame
>>336805621
The UN is a premade faction in the game. If you play as them, you'll start on Earth. There's a xenophobic, militarist equivelent to them also in the game called the Commonwealth of Man, but they start somewhere else I'm pretty sure
>>336804303
I'd make spiritual fanatical instead. You are already getting 100% slavery tolerance with mandate + reg collectivist.
>>336805621
That seems like recipe for a glorious disaster.
>>336805664
There's very little in the way of politics overhead from what I've seen.
>>336805743
>I either need to be happy with them scanning my PC for software usage, or not buy the game.
Exactly. Caveat emptor. If you don't like what they're doing, don't give them your money.
>>336805743
>software usage
What does this mean exactly? I presume it doesn't extend beyond when and what programs I use?
>>336805664
All I know is you can attack some alien as soon as you see him but I don't know what the consequences are, probably bad relations and stuff. And to start diplomacy and all that you have to research them first and establish a contact of some sorts. But yeah they mentioned you need casus belli for wars and wars have specific goals just like their previous games, but it's set in huge space so I don't think it will be that binary and you can break lose if you want to.
>>336805621
>decadent
>individualism
>>336805871
That's not a solution I'm happy about. But okay.
>>336805579
>Distant Worlds
Yeah but that game looks like shit and has terrible UI and it's designed for autistic people.
>>336805743
If you're really this paranoid just sandbox it
>>336805871
Don't bother. He's either a deluded lolbertarian or a progressive in need of a nanny state.
>>336791378
you asked people to "buy" it
>>336805757
Nah, the Sol system exists in every galaxy I think, what it actually contains is different though.
It can be a nuclear wasteland, or have a human civilization at a random point in development from pre-sentient to space faring. Probably a bunch of other options too.
>>336805619
Which race creator is this again? Link?
>>336805968
t. bootlicker
Is there a Linux version?
Even better will it release for free on GOG
>>336805879
That's the best part!
Nobody knows!
>>336805664
>you just fly your fleet over whenever you like?
You can't fly your fleet in someone else territory without declaring war on them or being allies to them.
You can declare war to everyone at anytime, provided that you aren't in a federation. If you are in a federation, you lose a lot of political choice (the federation decides which war).
>>336806005
The Sol system does always exist, but if you play as the UN you will start with it as your homeworld.
>>336805597
They have win conditions and they spiced up the end game a little bit with cataclysms happening because of sidequests/research/random. I just hope it's actually executed well and not just sweet on paper, but either way it's probably won't be "just blob my shit up" anymore.
>>336805912
Free market, m8. No company is obligated to pander to your dos and don'ts.
>>336806024
http://empiredesigner.xyz/
It's aight. Dunno what the other guys are using.
>>336806024
This one http://empiredesigner.xyz/
http://stellarisspeciesgen.com/ is nicer though, just gotta make sure not to pick too many ethics since that part's fucked right now.
>>336806065
Paradox games release on the 3 major home PC platforms
It never has a drm free version but it uses very shitty drm
twitchtv/jumbozo
About to start a new game
>>336806065
Linux yes, and it's Steam only. You can buy keys from Paradox but it still registers with Steam.
>>336806142
If people want to gather my data and sell it to the Russians or the Chinese I'm fine with that but I just wish they'd give me a cut.
>>336805879
That's the problem. It's so vague it might be literally nothing or they might install some spyare that logs everything you do. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but there's no way to know and that's the scary part.
>>336806257
Keep on wishing, dreamy boy.
>>336806305
Just sandbox it
>>336806173
Thanks anon.
>>336806094
You don't need to start as the pre-gen UN to start on Earth. You can create a race of parrots and start on Sol if you want.
It's just a choice in the starting system generation. You can pick either Sol, Deneb (which is the home of the "evil" pre-gen humans) or Random.
And none of the pre-gen races really carry over for the game. They're just templates for a quick start. All the races when you play will be randomly generated. Although you can force races you custom create to spawn as AI.
>>336806059
I'm not the one wanting to infringe upon the free market, so who's the 'bootlicker' here? ;)
I could care less if tomorrow state capitalism would be enforced, but at least don't be a hypocrite, tavarish.
>>336806194
God damnit, he's only picking names and I can already tell he's literally retarded.
>>336806472
>infringe upon the free market
Zero regulation is fine unless its infringing on human rights.
Or are you fine with slavery too?
>>336805743
That basically means "we want to know how good your computer is, what parts are in it, how you play our game, and a check to make sure that it's a unique user"
They mostly just collect this shit to reine development, as they said in regards to EU4, next EU game will probably only have 1 start date because like 1% of players use anything other than the earliest start date. So they stopped updating those. That's the data they're collecting. But legally they have to say they're collecting all that other stuff.
>>336805619
Dont start as tranhuman.
Transhuman is something that happens later in the game once you research it
>>336806472
>free market means no human rights or privacy
Goodjob bootlicker go vote for shillary when you can, she'll love you
>>336806591
Can I change the name of my species later on? In that case it's definitely more fitting to just start as human, but with a transhumanist ideology.
>>336805628
I just assumed
>>336806570
It's the "software usage" part people are freaking out about. It's probably just software that interacts with the game in some way, or other stuff you happen to have installed, which is pretty common these days, but it's a big vague.
day 1 pirate
FEELS GOOD MAN
>>336806803
Just
Sandbox
It
>>336806806
You can't pirate coz Denuvo
>>336806562
I am not in favor of human rights, since they are arbitrary constructs that once accepted could be enforced against my will.
And as I do not have a superior being or absolute from which to derive my moral standards, the only argument I can make against slavery would be of a subjective nature.
>>336806860
Where does it say it has Denuvo?
>>336807027
They mentioned it last month
Is there any other 4x games that do this cataclysm thing with weird shit like extradimensional invasion?
>>336807063
Source
>>336807072
Mgtow Directive
>>336804648
>not a single negative trait
>literally no intrigue or martial
>>336807072
Nice
>>336807063
>Emphasys in how moddeable it will be
>Denuvo
This statements seem contradictory
>>336807063
liarliarpantsonfire paradox games always allow modding
>>336807063
No they didn't.
>>336806714
>shillary
Too bad I'm a Eastern European that experienced good ol' communism, 'Murrican.
What Paradox is doing does not infringe upon your human rights as it is you who cedes those informations by your own free will in order to benefit of their product.
Bet you are the sort of faggot that is in favor of banning smoking in all private establishments (bars, pubs etc) as well.
>>336807171
Denuvo does not interfere with modding at all.
>>336806803
"sofware usage" just means "what are you doing with our game"
software usage means mostly how you play this game, it'll probably also include if you use mods and shit. But software usage is how you say things like that formally. They aren't interested, or capable without having something running which no one as far as I know has seen paradox run to scan.
But the game can send data like "has mods: X Y Z running" or "picked 1444 start date, played ironman, picked TYR, unlocked achievement LUCK OF THE IRISH"
>>336807298
No one said data collection should be illegal.
They're saying they shouldn't do it so that they will want to buy this product.
>>336807298
Man I live in a country which banned smoking in all bars and stuff couple of years ago, shit sucks.
I'm fucking ready to spend 200 shekels on Stellaris DLC
>>336807532
Shit's fucking great you mean. Even most smokers I know admit that it's a huge improvement. And most of them are polite enough people to go outside to use their e-cigs as a lot of the older one have switched to those these days because not everyoene wants to smell their fucking passion fruit or whatever smoke.
>>336807072
>White planet
>>336791635
>what are steam refunds
>>336807532
>bars and restaurants no longer smell like an ashtray
>this is bad
>>336807737
What if I play it for 20+ hours then realize I don't like it?
>>336807762
But the smoke was part of the atmosphere
>>336807737
Not really an option with these kinds of games. It takes considerably longer than the refund timeframe to figure out if shit's bad or not.
>>336807737
what about when version 1.4 BTAG introduces a shit mechanic that totally ruins the game
>>336807802
>play something for 20 hours
>don't like it now
That's like saying "what if I watch this film 10 times then decide I don't like it" something you've had 20 hours of entertainment from isn't something you can justify saying "don't like it, give money back"
>>336807802
>Playing for 20+ hours.
>Don't like it.
Son, if you play it for more than twenty minutes, you like it.
>>336807897
Sometimes I don't realize I wasn't enjoying it until I see the reviews though
>>336807885
>>336807883
>>336807802
are u all retarded
the two hours are to check if it runs well on your computer
to figure out if the game is good you look at reviews and opinions from sources you trust and watch the countless hours of gameplay videos that a readily available on the internet
>>336807883
>>336807737
if you live in the EU you have 14 days time to return it no questions asked.
>>336807515
>They're saying they shouldn't do it so that they will want to buy this product
That would be a sensible approach that I can respect, but what these anons are meaning by it is that they shouldn't do it at all. They are not simply expressing their views as a potential customer, but trying to impose their views on the company on moral grounds.
>>336807532
Tell me about it. Retards in my country passed such a law as well.
I'm by no means left wing (the left-right dichotomy is outdated since the French Revolution anyway), but I consider that a business owner shouldn't be coerced into adopting a certain policy. There should be non-smoker bars, smoker bars and bars with separate smoker and non-smoker areas. The patron should decide the policy and the potential customer should decide which establishment to frequent.
>>336807897
you dont even play these games, which is obvious from your response. you absolutely never played the HOI series
>>336808010
You void the cool off period when you download it, you dor ealise that right?
>>336807876
>the smell of potential lung cancer is part of the atmosphere
>>336808010
That involves fucking around with notoriously slow steam support tickets, rather than the new automated system for it.
What happens to all the 18-20 year age smokers in California when they raise the smoking age to 21?
Are they just FUCKING FUCKED?
>>336807954
I forced myself to play Morrowind for 30 hours and hated every second of it.
Bought it. First Paradox game i bought mostly because i want access to the modding forums and play MP
>>336808018
>That would be a sensible approach that I can respect, but what these anons are meaning by it is that they shouldn't do it at all. They are not simply expressing their views as a potential customer, but trying to impose their views on the company on moral grounds.
no, Ill pirate it anyway because its a paradox game. so you'll have to buy dlc for every pixel you see.
>>336808081
>muh cancer
literally everything causes cancer
if you get old your prostate literally becomes cancer just because you are old
>>336807762
On rare occasions when I come to bar for a drink I usually want to have a smoke too instead of having to get my drunk ass up everytime and drag it to the exit to smoke, especially considering that weather is mostly shit here. You could always find places where you can drink without being swallowed by clouds of smoke from everywhere if you wish so, but problem is that now you can't find one single place where you can just chill and drink and smoke and the same time.
>Army upgrades
Commissar Squads
Orbital Drop Pods
Power Armor
Self-Replicating Mine Fields
I'm loving all these references to other stuff
>>336808115
Basically
Better stock up on 3 years worth of smokes or vape fluid.
>>336808018
There are many things in this world which people are allowed to do, but shouldn't.
>>336808115
Do you really think anyone will care about that shit?
Americucks can literally only drink when they are 21 and I'm sure that never stopped anybody
>>336808115
Smoking isn't a criminal offense. Selling tobacco products to minors is. At worst, for those 18-20 years old smokers the only inconvenience would be in obtaining cigarettes.
>>336808146
I pirate the DLCs myself, so... :^)
>>336808158
The smoking ban isn't so much about cancer as it is about not forcing other people to inhale second-hand smoke.
It's not a human right to not have to deal with other people's nicotine addictions; it's about not being an asshole.
>>336808037
I've hundreds of Liquor and Beurocrat simulator 1836, EU4, EU3, Darkest hour and Kaiserreich (just general hoi 2 stuff, even played that fallout mod, should give that another go really), but only 23 hours of HoI 3 I guess. But 20ish hours was all it took to figure out the game sufficiently that it was trivial to do anything, even blobbing hard as Yugoslavia.
>>336808063
wrong, you have the right to return it no questions asked, but if you have a lot of hours(~10+) they can refuse. you dont need a valid reason to return it in the EU
>>336808106
just do it, because once you request it, you shouldnt have to do anything. if they dont refund you in 2 week they'll have to pay a big penalty to the EU
>>336808158
>i want to get cancer and fuck everybody around me
i'm actually not that worried about cancer, but smoke smells like shit and nobody enjoys smelling it. you're a cunt if you don't go outside or to a designated smoking area to smoke.
I'm probably going to play something like this.
>>336808115
They buy cigarettes online.
>>336808115
I smoked when I was 14 all the way through 18
not that hard to find people to get them for you, might have to pay extra
>>336808236
Yeah but in this case it's a problem of raising the age by 3 years for an addictive product that a lot of people under 21 are currently using. I can't help but think this will needlessly inconvenience those people. They could at least grandfather those guys in or something.
>>336808241
Yeah but it seems like a pain in the ass for them to have to drive to another state or get an older person to buy for them or something when they could immeidately buy them.
>>336808241
>I pirate the DLCs myself, so... :^)
nice
>It's a "smokers don't think they're fucking disgusting" thread
>>336808361
>wrong, you have the right to return it no questions asked, but if you have a lot of hours(~10+) they can refuse. you dont need a valid reason to return it in the EU
Consider actually reading the things you're talking about.
In the EU you have the right to return these purchases within 14 days for a full refund. You can do so for any reason – even if you simply changed your mind.
The 14-day "cooling off" period does not apply, among others, to:
plane and train tickets, as well as concert tickets, hotel bookings, car rental reservations and catering services for specific dates
goods and drinks delivered to you by regular delivery – for example delivery by a milkman.
goods made to order or clearly personalised – such as a tailor-made suit
sealed data carriers, such as DVDs, which you have unsealed upon receipt.
online digital content, if you have started downloading or streaming it
goods bought from a private individual rather than a company
urgent repairs and maintenance contracts – if you call a plumber to repair a leaking shower, you can't cancel the work once you have agreed on the price of the service
>online digital content, if you have started downloading or streaming it.
What's this game like? Is it like Magicka?
>all these babies that can't handle cigarette smoke
beer and coffee disgusting too, huh?
just wait til you're an adult and stop being a little bitch lmao
>>336808494
Like a mix of traditional 4x games like Civilization and Paradox's previous Grand Strategy Games like EU4.
>>336808348
which is my point. 20 hours is enough
2 isnt
>>336808494
Yes, buy it
>>336808494
Yes, it's exactly the same as Magicka, except in space.
>>336808494
It's like a mix of violated heroin and robot alchemic drive.
>>336808556
>buying into the coffee meme
>>336808556
>beer and coffee disgusting too, huh?
I guess the diffrence between cigarettes and those two is that no one's forcing you to consume them just because you're close by.
>>336808178
I find it a bit dissapointing you can only get the commissar squads if you go collectivist
>>336808556
Fuck you, I enjoy my pubs not smelling like an ashtray. Even lockins are pretty pleasent when the ashtrays do come out because the pub has time to breathe in between so that the smoke doesn't just cling to everything.
You must have forgotten just how filthy some places got back when you could just smoke inside.
>>336808653
Oh come on man, going into a Starbucks and having to smell all the coffee from all the disgusting coffee drinkers around me makes me want to puke.
>>336808570
>20 hours was enough to completely solve the game bcause it's a broken mess
>comparable to "do I like this"
If you do something for 2 hours you enjoy it.
>>336808556
Kill yourself, oh wait you already are.
>>336808231
And that's fine by me, but I do not want to live in a totalitarian state. As long as my behavior, as self-harming as it may be, does not infringe upon another's rights, the state should not have the right to interfere.
From being a moralist in private to politically espousing the creed of the Fascist/Communist/X-ist New Man is but a step. State policy should be decided in an utilitarian, amoral fashion by technocrats, not by bullshitting politicians swaying gullible retards with 'muh feels'.
>>336808778
i work 8 hours each day mate....
I really like how the shitposters aren't even pretending to be interested in the game anymore.
>>336807992
or, you know, pirate it
fuck yes i wanted this for a long time
>>336808451
>>336808451
>>336808451
fucking this holy shit
i smoke, but i also make a concerted effort to be as inconspicuous and respectable about it as i can. i don't smoke in places where there are a lot of people, and if i'm with someone who i don't know how they feel about it i ask if they mind if i light one up before i do it.
people with tobacco habits are not automatically the great satan.
>>336808889
Pirating a game isn't a realistic indicator of it's quality though. I've pirated tons of games and put countless hours into them but as soon as I bought them they turned to shit.
How big is the largest map?
>>336808903
Excellent conduct, senpai.
>>336808959
1000 stars
>>336808903
its 4chan senpai
>>336808903
>if i'm with someone who i don't know how they feel about it i ask if they mind if i light one up before i do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTOb1FZNSx0
>>336808861
presumably you enjoy having money. You can't compare work to a luxury, that's just ridiculous.
If you don't like a game it'll turn you off pretty early on, and if it doesn't you still were entertained or engaged until you were turned off. That doens't just become worthless because you are now turned off to it.
>>336808692
"Hmm, I don't like pubs in which smoking is allowed. I could decide to only frequent non-smoker pubs and be an overall reasonable person, but no, I will instead chimp out and demand smoking to be banned in all pubs!"
>Traits are just -1/+1 without any neutral traits that have a positive and tradeoff.
>>336809070
just responding to the audacious claim that doing something for two hours means i enjoy it famalam
>>336808794
There's no such thing. "Utilitarian, amoral technocrats" are just a rhetorical excuse for elites to further their own interests.
>>336809096
Or you can just take a positive and a negative yourself and still have neutral points?
Bundling positives and negatives in a single trait just restricts your options.
>>336809091
That's not practical becuase those pubs would find their market moves to smoking pubs which pressures them to remain smoking pubs, and none smokers would go where their friends go.
"hey how about we go to X" "yeah but dave can't smoke there so we'd have to go outside and it's looking like it might rain"
The only practical thing to do is carpet ban it. Too much pressure to maintain status quo.
>>336809096
You can save your points for gene therapy later.
Been playing the pre-release a bit, this game is rad.
r8 my enlightened civilization
>>336799787
This
"Sci fi" fans are a fucking joke and though the genre has such endless good properties it always goes to the three most basic properties
>>336809269
i love having 'free market' democracy/capitalism
such freedom
so market driven
fuck leftist do-gooders. holding humanity back. we'd not have surgeons today if the lefty cunts knew how much time trainee surgeons spend cutting up animals for training
>>336809269
And whose fault is that? If you decide to go to smokers' bars with your friends instead of being firmly against it, then it is solely your fault that the market does not cater enough to your demographic.
Shit like this is why modern democracy is a meme. "Lets be all about freedom n shit, but only when it favors us!" At least in a traditional despotism you'd have your dos and don'ts without any pseudo-moralistic bullshitting added.
>>336809552
>dead_to_first_contact.png
>>336808467
you do know steam games are not digital content?
They are subscriptions to play the game.
You dont own the game or the data you just payed steam to play it.
>>336809552
>europe
>cucks
so youre the scots?
>>336808959
1000 stars
But the devs stated it could probably handle a lot more but will not officially support that
So mods for 2000 star empires
>>336809603
>there will never be a Dune game that's like a mix of Stellaris and CK2
>>336801971
>Niggers get a research bonus
>>336809671
The illusion of freedom is not freedom. And your perception of leftists is laugahble when it's right wiing romatnic humanism that's really holding us back.
>>336810096
Gotta get that sharp stick technology.
>>336809724
What a fucking retard you are.
>>336810054
have you played crisis of the confederation?
>>336808556
Please don't ever stop smoking.
>>336808650
>>336808653
>>336808692
>>336808784
>>336810359
lmfao don't fucking reply to me again until you graduate high school
>>336810409
>lmao i love smoking and they don't so i must be older than them
yeah okay. have fun man.
>>336810409
enjoy ruining your body with drugs m8.
>>336810409
You sound american. Real drinkers are talking here, go back to your pisswater.
>>336810505
lel college tuition fucknuts
>>336810147
Right wing, left wing - same bullshit, different package. Political ideologies are just as bad as religious fundamentalism since they form their own rigid worldviews and if you want to have them for their view on a certain aspect of governance, you have to accept the rest of it as well.
>>336810351
Nop, not familiar. What is it?
Can you rename systems or planets?
>>336810917
yes
>>336810917
Don't know about systems, but planets yes.
>>336810917
Yes, someone in their dev multiplayer renamed all the planets to IP addresses from a router and the homeworld locahost.
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