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Why is this getting so much hate?
memes
>>336779206
ull see
>>336779206
WE WUZ MOZART AND SHIT
>>336779206
/pol/acks invading /v/
>>336779206
niggers
>>336779206
>intense multiplayer trench warfare imminent
/v/ hates on everything that looks cool. let them play their weeaboo shit nobody cares about.
>>336779206
Because black people can't have cool things, also because /pol/ that's literally it
Well I haven't like a Battlefield since Bad Company 2 and even then the last properly good one was 2142, so the fact that Battlefield 3 on has basically been map packs means it's been a downward slope for me.
My brother and I were talking about it earlier and he mentioned that there's not engineer class in the game which leads me to believe vehicles are just powerups like in Battlefront, so it's hardly even Battlefield anymore at this point.
This coming from the guy who loves WW1-WW2 weaponry and was honestly kinda happy when they said they were making a WW1 Battlefield. Then they named it and showed it off, and thats where I got off.
Because people want a World War I that actually treats the event with some reverence and respect instead of using it at a fucking opportunity to spin some positive PR about how progressive your organisation is.
You have to be honest, this really does cheapen the "Great War".
>>336779206
Nigger hero in WW1.
Promotion
>tfw i actually really wanna play it now
>>336779206
>/v/ getting triggered by the existence of black people
>>336779206
Because it's stupid.
>HOW DO WE MAKE A WW1 VIDYA MORE DIVERSE FOR ALL THE FANS WHO ARE CLAMORING FOR MINORITY CHARACTERS?
>you mean no one?
>SHUT THE FUCK UP SMITH, THERE WERE BLACKS AND CAMELJOCKIES IN THE BIG ONE, WE'LL JUST MAKE THE. THE ARBITRARY FOCUS OF THE CAMPAIGN, I CAN SMELL THE MONEY ALREADY
>>336779206
It isn't? People are cumming buckets over this shit in every corner of the web bar this autistic contrarian shithole.
Op here,so people dont like it because theres a black person on the cover?
Why is Blackula in WW1?
Mash X to not die as fast when the mustard gas hits you
Hold LT to build a mound of your comrade's corpses in your trench so the bullets might not hit you
>>336779813
>We want to show diversity in the game. That’s been a key goal. You can see in the trailer that there’s a Bedouin woman warrior on a horse. She’s a playable character in the single-player campaign.
>DIVERSITY
>MAIN GOAL
JUST...
>>336779813
Yes. Now stop baiting.
>>336779914
Who the fuck cares about the singleplayer
>>336779206
>Niggers
>>336779206
Niggers make /pol/ angry.
Because it's historically inaccurate for the sake of diversity. If they wanna put muh strong independent woman and black people into a game fine i don't care. But by setting it in ww1 it's a huge slap in the face to the actual people who fought there and to history itself. Not to mention incredibly disrespectful
>>336780048
Well, I do.
>>336779206
shit posting is kind of fun after work
>people actually care about historical accuracy in battlefield
what the fuck lmao
>The Great War
>The war to end all wars
>The misery of trench warfare
>The arrogance of commanders ordering men to their deaths
>The brutal industrialisation of war
vs
>EXPLOSIONS
>BEATI NIGGAS WITH A SPADE
>BLAST GATS
>GRRRLS WITH SWORDS
>MORE EXPLOSIONS
>WUB WUB WUB
I used to think I wanted more games about WW1 to be made. Now I know I was wrong.
>>336780096
Great maymay
>>336780096
inaccurate why?
>>336779206
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>336779206
>Black Americans in WW1
>Beduin women warrior
>beduin
>women
>warrior
>MUSLIM! WOMEN! WARRIOR!
Because it's fucking tokenism to the max and it's retarded.
Muslim women fighter?!
>Shilling this hard
Jesus christ it's Overwatch ass all over again. Dice performed a controversial move because they knew that they'd have to get the minimum amount of paid shills on board to get the ball rolling, meanwhile you idiots will talk about it non stop until it is bored into all our skulls and we too go spread the word tto our normie friends.
"Hey did you hear there is going to be a new battlefield game with a black guy blahblah etc"
Come sixx months or whenever the fuck this monstrosity is released, people will forget the shitstorm but instead remember talking about it lots and therefore assume it is good and then buy it.
And the more you talk about something, the more free advertising it gets. There is no such thing as bad publicity.
Stop talking about it.
I can't wait to play it. I love Battlefield.
>>336780048
I do.
>>336780325
>Implying anyone outside of /pol/ cares
Because people outside of 4chan like it
And /v/ is full neo nazi white kids who feel insecure if it's not a white male they're playing
>>336780325
It's the same with Infinite War and the
>WOW WHY SO MANY DISLIKES, GUYS IT'S NOT COOL TO HATE Call of Duty™!
WAIT HOL UP
WE
>>336780327
Video game has to have some consistency when it's placing itself in historical period.
Consistency of BF1 us pure diarrhea.
>>336779206
>bad education
>/pol/acks
>>336780420
no nigger i treat everyone equally
>>336780483
that hasnt stopped WWII games from having zombies in it
>>336780190
Excellent post anon way to refute my statement
>>336780201
Black people never saw front line combat and the only true participation they had in that war was during the very last year of it. I don't think I even how to tell you how outrageous a woman being there is.
>>336780220
That doesn't make it any less disrespectful anon
Looked like modern fantasy until I scrolled down. Is this supposed to be what WW1 looks like to the "gamer" crowd?
Guess DICE doesn't get my money this year. Would have loved if Brother Flaming Chest was more than special effects, but this is just flashy shit on what should be a gritty setting.
>>336780468
WUZ
Because some people get the feeling they are going to play fast and loose with WW1 history in order to shoehorn several characters into the game that shouldn't be there to please some modern ideology that demands inclusivity at all costs.
>>336780643
KANGZ
>>336779206
Because that wasn't how it happened.
Blacks were just as expendable as everyone else, though, but due to sheer amount only whites made it into history books.
The horrible thing about history is that some facts trump others as well as it can be easily manipulated by either telling too much or telling too little and playing with feelings.
For example hitler put germany back on track after ww1 and would've been known as world's greatest economist if it weren't for ww2.
USSR wouldn't have been a thing if germany's bankers hadn't seen russia as a threat economy-wise.
All races had slaves throughout the history but for some reason it rustled american jimmies.
etc.
>>336780557
Fantasy setting in historical period of time.
Are you trying to tell me BF1 is fantasy setting and there were never blacks or women in any war? :^)
>>336780665
SHEEEEIIIIIIIIT
>>336780570
>disrespectful
get off your fucking high horse, its a goddamn video game
it doesnt need to "respect" anything, it needs to be entertaining
>>336780220
good, now that we are at an understanding we should change the germans to trans people so they get some representation as well
>>336780570
Anon the fact she is a women is not outrageous.
She is a MUSLIM women, this is what's retarded here.
>>336779206
Because there's a nigger on the cover instead of a white guy, which would have been more representative of World War I. Because they used a song that didn't fit the game very well in the trailer. Because it's not a gruelingly realistic simulation of WWI. It's still going to be fun. Amazing how /v/ can get assblasted over a AAA game with mustard gas and flamethrowers.
>B-but the flamethrowers are going to be treated like Heroes in Battlefront.
Who the fuck cares? Get pumped. It's a triple-A WWI game with horses, swords, airships, landships, chemical weapons, bolt-action rifles, early automatic rifles and pistols, and wooden airplanes.
I T ' S S T I L L G O I N G T O B E F U N.
/v/ is just contrarian. It can't possibly be worse than Battlefield 4 or Battlefront. In fact, I'm wagering that it'll be better than both of them by a fair margin. Get gassed, niggas
>>336780245
Why are you niggers acting surprised and doing this
>thing
>thing
>thing
Format, are you the same person as in the other thread? Women jihadi have been a thing for a very long time, ancient arabia had a warrior culture and mostly everyone was competent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nusaybah_bint_Ka'ab
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khawlah_bint_al-Azwar
>>336780792
Verdun is better.
>>336779206
Trolls trolling trolls.
>>336780708
>>336780765
literally doesnt matter. its a video game its meant to be played and enjoyed not to be over analyzed
>>336780923
Literally you have no argument so flush your opinion with rest of yourself to shitter.
>>336780883
Its a fucking blast
>>336780861
Nice WWI info there.
Muslim women were not allowed to be in front lines.
>>336780980
you are the cancer killing /v/
>>336780861
>Women jihadi have been a thing for a very long time, ancient arabia had a warrior culture and mostly everyone was competent.
You mean the pagan middle east, when islam was just sprouting, this is hardly an accurate depiction of what is in BF1
FUCK YOUR NIGGAS WITH GERMAN WEAPONS. THE TRAILER'S MUSIC WAS TERRIBLE ITS YOUDUBE TIME POST WHATEVER
http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=c7nRTF2SowQ&video_start=0&audio=9_JcM45gaFs&audio_start=0
>>336781057
Oh the ironing.
>>336781046
Source?
>>336781092
Neither of those women were pagan, Islam adopted the same warrior culture.
>>336781057
>t. the cancer killing /v/
>>336780863
Smaller in scope. Emphasis on AAA. Does Verdun even have chemical weapons or horses?
>>336779206
>Inaccurate representation of history
>Game that has not been fixed since Battlefield 3
>Game that will be just like Battlefield 3, WW1 DLC
>Art is literally a copy of Battlefield 3
Basically, you're going to play Battlefield 3 DLC which will have same problems as Battlefield 3 had - shitty UI, shitty blue filter, shitty map design, shitty desctruction.
>>336779206
fucking kikes
now they are ruining video games
REEEEEEEEE
>>336781165
>source
Quaran.
>>336779206
Because it's another case of ostentatiously politically correct display that suggest modern "diversity" ideology is more important to the developers than the actual subject matter the game is supposed to be about.
Sure, the tantrum and the backlash are out of proportion, and yes, most of people involved in it are morons. But the decision itself is not clever and people are not entirely wrong about finding it, to say the least, distasteful.
I don't really know, or frankly care how much liberties the game will take with the historical settings. Judging from the trailer, it seems like they sure as hell don't go for particularly realistic approach, which in terms of gameplay and visual aesthetics actually might not be a bad thing. And personally, I find the very idea of visiting WW1 in a tripleA title very refreshing and I'm happy about it.
It's a question whenever the stupid choice of a black guy for cover is just a publicity stunt, or if they seriously intend to do some big historical revisionism. We'll have to wait and see for that.
At any rate: you can't blame people for not being happy to see that a developer considered publicity and diversity quotas more important than the nature of their subject matter, though you can blame them for being idiots and throwing tantrums about it.
>>336781165
They where both converts you tard, They had been pagan and most likely still held pagan cultural bias.
Cite a proper standing army unit composed of women in an Islamic country and then we'll talk.
>>336781013
I can tell people are having a lot of fun with this.
>>336781331
and as an ad stunt, it's great, certainly gets people talking. No press is bad press
>>336780792
7 nation army didn't fit the ww1 theme ? what ?
People get real salty about including anyone other than white guys. Are these people that fucking insecure? Absolutely.
Oh no when I look down at the hand my gun's in it is black what will I do!? At least people like this are announcing themselves as jokes of human beings whose opinions don't matter.
You fucking asshole are racist bigots who should all die. How the fuck can you not know Blacks and Women dominated World War I? There was a reason it was called The Great War. This was the moment in history us whites males were shown to be the inferior ones.
I can't believe it took this long for people to finally notice. This is PROGRESS people! Learn the true history! BUY this game!
pol/tards being mirror sjws
>muh Mad Max
>muh force awakens
>muh battlefield
>muh dindu
>>336781107
http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=c7nRTF2SowQ&video_start=0&audio=4zLfCnGVeL4&audio_start=2
>>336781331
>It's a question whenever the stupid choice of a black guy for cover is just a publicity stunt, or if they seriously intend to do some big historical revisionism
because black people didnt fight in ww1?
>>336781503
>People get real salty about including anyone other than white guys.
People are mad because they are (correctly) afraid of misrepresentation of history. Showing dishonest images of something purely because you want to further some political agenda is bad. How is this difficult to comprehend?
>>336781503
>People get real salty about including anyone other than white guys. Are these people that fucking insecure? Absolutely.
honestly why even browse /v/ once you begin to understand this and why it's (and by extension the userbase) stupid and not worth reading
>>336781719
its difficult to comprehend that a fictional character in a fictional video game is somehow part of a political agenda
>>336781107
>it aint me starts playing
http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=c7nRTF2SowQ&video_start=0&audio=1EkyjMN_aZs&audio_start=0
>>336781719
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/369th_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)
I'd normally link better sources than wikipedia but your buddy Sargon seems to get away with it.
they should've just put a masked character on the cover so nobody would bitch and complain. Seriously its a fucking videogame and you faggots act like someone burned your house down
>>336779462
>>336779483
>>336779630
>>336780076
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>>336780190
>>336780420
>>336780502
>>336780764
>>336780792
>>336781503
>>336781515
>>336781603
>muh /pol/ boogyman
>das racists because you don't agree with me
>I have no problem shoehorning diversity in a game where it doesn't belong
>mods make this site more like redumblr
>muh anti SJWs
friendly reminder to get into a car accident and lose the use of your legs, coalburning faggots.
>>336781712
>because black people didnt fight in ww1?
They did. Some of them even in the front lines. They were, however, an absolute minority. Hell, the entire involvement of USA in the war was minimal, and out of the american soldiers, an absolute minority were black: maybe hundreds of them actually participated in the front line battles over the course of some few months.
It would actually make a lot more sense to involve an Indian soldier, as many of them served under the British Royal Army. But blacks it must be, because who gives a fuck about Indians, right?
>>336781854
I agree with this post.
>>336781854
I don't hate just /pol/, all you extremists are a bunch of jackasses who must force politics into absolutely fucking everything and derail a fuckload of discussion because there's too many niggers or there's too many white people.
Do what everyone wants you to, go fight SJWs, and make sure you all kill each other.
the game tells the story of a regiment that allowed blacks to gain respect in the military for the first time, whats wrong with that?
did you get angry at the movie Glory too?
>>336781854
>shoehorning
Name a situation where a company can include minority characters and it isn't shoehorning or pandering.
"If it historically centered around a certain minority"
Then you'd just complain about the game as a whole instead of just one character. Try again.
>>336779206
Black soldiers in world war 1 being a main character does seem a bit like pandering to sjws with ~equality~ nonsense
also that character design seems a bit off
and if it turns out he's not american, I'm actually going to cry
>>336781719
It is a videogame. I'm pretty sure no one in WWI flew a biplane through a canyon, jumped out, and no scoped some guy on a horse either, but that's prob the kinda shit that'll happen in game.
>mafia 3 rage
>No blacks were in mafia!
>battlefield 1 rage
>barely any blacks in WWI!
>Force Awakens rage
>ugh buh huh monkeymen why am I so inferior!
>>336781861
cool so then why is it an issue that they are featured in the game?
>>336779206
If they're shoehorning in the we wuz soldurs black character then I'd at least like to see the Indian soldiers in there on the British side, as it actually makes historical sense and the Sihks were pretty badass soldiers.
>>336781953
are you aware of the irony of saying "force politics into everything" while a black guy is promoting a game for WW1, a war fought between two white countries?
>>336781953
>extremists
You mean cucks like your good self that hate anyone who cares about anything other than Japanese cartoons?
>>336781796
See: >>336781861
>>336781789
>>336782001
>its difficult to comprehend that a fictional character in a fictional video game is somehow part of a political agenda
Are you actually autistic? Or just insanely delusional?
>>336782091
>ww1 fought between 2 countries
?????????
>>336781861
This.
There were actually a lot of Indians fucking shit up, that would have been at least interesting
This is the definition of forced diversity
>>336781987
>did you get angry at the movie Glory too?
You're talking to depressed 16-19 year old white kids from flyover states whose lives revolve around a mongolian claymation imageboard where they aren't even interested in the mongolian claymation so much as they're interested in the camaraderie surrounding it.
Of course they got angry at Glory. They get angry at the mere sight of minorities. Some of them just shitpost angrily, some of them try to dress it up in some reddity form of pseudo-logic, but either way it's just dumb rejects making a social ritual out of common hatred.
>>336782098
>WOW, HE'S NOT AN EXTREMIST, HE MUST BE A WEABOO NECKBEARD
Yeah, that's right, ignore 99% of the world.
>>336781854
lol.
>muh sjw boogyman
>not racist just historian
>freaks out about anything non-white/male
>it's not about race
You lot'd prob get taken more seriously if you didn't have a hissy fit about every damn thing. You're worse and more trigger-able than SJWs
>>336782126
he means the Allies and the Axis autismo
>>336781515
kek kek kek
try hard/10
>>336782104
are you saying it would be normal to think such things?
it would be one thing if blacks were not respected in the military, and this game was supposed to change that idea.
but thats just not the case.
>>336782189
nice ad hominem faggot
>>336781953
>force politics into everything
We didn't ask for this. You forced it onto us, and even worse, you've come here to try and force us to shut up and accept it without complaint. Fuck off
Swedish pandering, race mixing agenda.
>>336782079
Sihks are generally pretty fucking badass. I was reading up on what one bloke did in Afghanistan a few years back and he basically went full CoD protagonist on something like 30 taliban.
do some of you guys see a black person irl at the store or something and shout "shoehorning!" because at this point it wouldn't surprise me
>>336782054
its not an issue, it just makes no sense as to why they're on the front cover
>>336782104
No I just don't give a shit. What's their "agenda"? That black people have worth/can fight in war? Oh shit what insidious propaganda that is. When I look down at my characters hands and see black I'll turn into a black-loving cuck oh no what will I do?!
>>336782239
>You
See?
This is another trait of extremists that make you all easy to hate.
You think everyone who isn't on your side, is an extremist of the other side, even though extremists have always been minorities.
No wonder everyone turned on you, and no wonder everyone is turning on SJWs too.
They should just get rid of all of you.
>>336780220
>implying it's srill "just a videogame" if the MC was der fuhrer himself
>>336782212
>sandniggers
>white
>>336782252
Close enough but that was actually a Gurkha. The people from Nepal.
If you wan't to know what a fucking warrior looks like, just see some of the Gurkhas that train in Nepal. They're beast's. I'm not too up to date on WW1 History, but I hope they fought in that war, I wanna play one of them with a fucking Kukri or something
>american nigger
>american
>fucking
>nigger
i dont care about your african american struggle, make your own game.
t. european
>>336782265
why does it make no sense? this game tells the story of an all black regiment, so it features a black person on the cover.
>>336782354
You're right, that was a Gurkha. My bad.
>>336782334
>blacks
>critically important to the war
Has there been a black/non-white character in a game recently that doesn't trigger the sjw-fearful? Maybe companies wouldn't feel like they need to push a "political agenda" if you all didn't freak out about every non-white-male character.
>>336780675
>The horrible thing about history is that some facts trump others as well as it can be easily manipulated by either telling too much or telling too little and playing with feelings.
The fun thing about SJW's is that this game itself is a prime example of absurd historicization
>>336782413
who are you quoting dude?
all I said that black people existed, not that they were important
>>336782323
>every one is turning into SJWs
In Canada maybe, but have you been Europe recently people are getting pissed
>>336782054
>cool so then why is it an issue that they are featured in the game?
The question is why are we focusing on a black guy and arabian woman of all the people who had participated in the war? Of all the stories that could be told about WW1, why these ones?
If you want to talk about a certain historical events, you should focus on those parts of their stories that most accurately reflect the nature of the conflict. If you instead focus on less relevant aspects of the theme, and if you do so under a key that has political basis: so for an instead, you spend disproportionate amount of focus on fighting women and blacks than you spend on those who actually carried the absolute MAJORITY of the burden of the war, you are creating a misrepresentation of the historical subject. And you are doing it because (and the developer flat out admitted that) you have a political goal: change the way people view female and black characters in stories today. That is manipulative, it uses history and twists it towards a certain political goal. It misrepresents the real events, creates false impression (simply by giving the absolute niche aspects of them more space than the core and most important ones).
>bad company 2
>"orange glow" is coming from the glow stick the soldier is wearing
>now it just shows up for no reason
>>336782405
>this game tells the story of an all black regiment
I didn't want to play it before but now I really don't.
>>336779206
the cape is cool but my bigges issue with the game is that
IT ISN'T FUCKING 2143
ONE FUCKING JOB DICE
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>336782521
Everyone in Germany is pretty fucking pissed.
And here in Spain all the leftist parties are a living joke.
>>336782493
You just implied all sand monkeys where either apart of the Axis, and not a side show to the war like in reality
>>336782428
The only reason this came along is because its been blown out of proportion. When SJWs started becoming big in the media and crying about every little spec of diversity that wasn't in some form of media people got pissed, and its basically brought on the effect of every time there is a different race or w'e present people think its down to SJWs (Probably is) thats why people get pissed, its unwarranted, but with SJWs somehow getting recognition these days the outrage is understandable.
>>336782530
BLUE AND ORANGE
>>336782579
faggot
>>336782530
I'm not sure why they expanded the look from BC2, either. I also recall that BC2 had fake player names above most of the figures in the background for the actual art.
>>336782526
> Of all the stories that could be told about WW1, why these ones?
these stories havent been told much, I had no idea women fought in ww1, it would be interesting to see
>you spend disproportionate amount of focus on fighting women and blacks than you spend on those who actually carried the absolute MAJORITY of the burden of the war
1 game wont ruin the representation of the people who fought in ww1
>And you are doing it because (and the developer flat out admitted that) you have a political goal: change the way people view female and black characters in stories today.
where did you get that from?
>>336782668
yes, these contrasting colors have been featured prominently on many a cover, thank you for your poignant observation
>>336782526
Because they're trying to bring variety to a war people see as being one thing, namely folk in mucky trenches. Having white and black men, with some women, is to reflect how far reaching the war was. Also some black men did fight in the war, a story that's not been told that much, so why not tell a less known story than the shit we've heard/seen so many times before?
>>336782054
>>336782405
In exactly the same way that it's "problematic" that asians are "underrepresented" in western media even when it comes to adaptations of culturally asian media.
>>336782405
>I'm gonna advertise a banquet, a feast with several dishes and roasts, wines and appetizers, deserts, etc it will be incredibly extravagant
>but I'm gonna tell everyone it's the dinner rolls that were the most important part of the banquet; so important in fact nothing but dinner rolls will be on every advertisement
>>336782579
>yet another futuristic game
>after Battlefront
>after two futuristic CoD's
>after the blunder that Halo 5 was
>>336782594
Germans are cucks, nothing to worry about
>>336782636
how did I imply that all middle eastern people were part of the axis? all I said was that there were some
you have comprehension issues
>>336782234
>>336782127
>There were actually a lot of Indians fucking shit up, that would have been at least interesting
It just goes to show how the whole diversity bullshit is completely skewed and racist in it's own merits.
>>336782234
>it would be one thing if blacks were not respected in the military, and this game was supposed to change that idea.
The game is intending to change the idea of how important they were to the war. See: >>336782526
>>336782296
>No I just don't give a shit.
And nobody gives a shit about you not giving a shit. The truth is that you clearly do, considering how much you insist on sharing your view here.
>>336782296
>That black people have worth/can fight in war?
That european history isn't primarily the history of white people. That black people were equally as important and relevant as white people at every possible point of history.
>>336782493
well then its weird to have a black person as the face of the game if they were not important.
Also that black american is handling a mauser FOR SOME REASON
>b-b-but he took it from a german!
so he steals even on the battlefield?
>>336782323
I was clearly calling you a newfag. It's a common insult to shame foreign users from posting until they've successfully assimilated into the board's culture
>>>/reddit/
>>336782753
do you really think that it isnt a problem?
there was a big stink about how black people are underrepresented at the oscars, but data showed it was mexicans and asians that were left out
>>336782650
You realise though that even using the term "SJWs" means you guys get treated like a joke and pretty much always will. Lincoln and MLK would be described as warriors for social justice so you look like neo-nazis or some shit using that as a derogatory term. I know some people are fucking goons with this stuff but jesus you guys come across as terrified and insecure clowns. All you're doing by complaining about "SJWs" is fuelling their fires and giving some shitty screenwriters a villain for dramas in the years to come.
>>336782893
>/pol/ pretends their ideology is part of the entire site
No.
>>336779206
Fuck the hate, I'll be rolling over scum trenches in my Tank killing Jerry. Thickest Aussie accent I can muster blaring over mic
>>336782759
We don't know what the game'll be like or what the story is so all of this is just wild assumptions based on insecurities and racism. For all we know we jump from black regiment to canadians to folk in desert and so on but you're all so triggered by a black face you reeeee out.
>>336782927
>Already invokes Godwin's Law with his first argument
You know what you are, don't hide it.
>>336782893
LOL NIGGER KEKS WE WUZ KANGS AMIRITE
Can I be a part of /v/ now?
>>336782956
I'll get it too, but I'll wait since it will probably be broken on release.
>>336782840
>The game is intending to change the idea of how important they were to the war. See: >>336782526
oh yea, check out this great post about this guy who believes 1 game will somehow undo 100 years of media surrounding the war
>>336782823
>t. Humanities major
>>336782840
>That black people were equally as important and relevant as white people at every possible point of history.
Lol. We've seen one black character and a 1 min trailer and this is what that implies to you? Maybe it's trying to make the point that everyone in these places was affected by the war 'cause they were.
>>336782428
The question is has there been a minority character in a game recently that wasn't heavily forced solely to pander to the SJW cancer censoring the industry.
Everyone is fine with GTA San Andreas, for example. They were fine with Mirror's Edge' female & asian protagonist; until the redesign tried to turn her into a tranny mudskin.
>>336782890
this black person is important to this game because this game tells the story of black people in ww1
So what's going to flop harder, this or Mafia 3?
>>336782795
I want to kiss Conchita
What the fuck is this?
I am legitimately asking.
I thought I knew a great deal of WW1 and then this Machine Gun Knight shows up and I question if I knew anything
Was it actually prominent in the war or was it some idea the central powers wanted to try, or from like 1 photograph so now we can feature it in the game?
>>336779696
>>tfw i actually really wanna play it now
What face?
>>336783091
we dont use that here dude, your /fit/ is showing
>>336783026
Wonder why they chose black dude for cover though, why not just avoid controversy?
>>336783183
>he doesn't know what tfw stands for
>>336783127
so we are going to miss all of the war.
sounds like a fun game.
nah, what am I thinking.
These black people are going to fucking end up on all fronts due to some super secret ww1 ops.
Because it's already confirmed to be "Missed Potential: The Game"
>>336783171
half of the stuff in the game isnt real, otherwise the game would be pretty boring
see: verdun
>>336779206
Really?
http://www.strawpoll.me/6459945/r
>>336781993
League of Legends
Dota
Overwatch
Hearos the Storm
Street FIghter
World of Warcraft
Grand Theft Auto
Virutally any indie game
Any Game with Character Creation
Gee, maybe "historically centered" might actually mean "it's a good idea to retain some accuracy rather than putting in a nigger protag because we're a progressive swedish somlia that lives out of sheds"
>black character on cover
>WHY DICE SAY WHITE MAN DID NOTHING AND BLACKS WON WAR!?
Maybe it's cause the past three (?) battlefields have had white dude's on cover so they want to differentiate themselves from that for marketing purposes. Man I'm so glad I don't get triggered by people acknowledging other races exist. It makes life a whole lot easier, plus my grandkids won't secretly hate me and think of me as a useless human being.
>>336783127
Honestly, that would be hilarious. Stormfront itself couldn't think of a better way to completely eliminate the efforts of non-American blacks (99.9% of blacks) in today's generation. It would be the most racist thing to happen this millennium.
>>336783216
because this controversy will get the majority of the internet rallying behind your game and sell you more copies to
"piss off racists"
>>336782730
>these stories havent been told much,
Actually, no. They haven't. Definitely not in games. Also: those stories have been told because those stories are important. That is why we keep telling them.
>I had no idea women fought in ww1, it would be interesting to see
They had, in absolute minority, and mostly on Russian side. And it's not going to be interesting, it's going to be bullshit. Made up bullshit existing solely to represent modern western ideas about what women should be. It's rather fucking sad really, because women did play a MAJOR role in WW1, especially on the British side, which however won't be explored because it does not fit the modern strong emancipated woman narrative.
>1 game wont ruin the representation of the people who fought in ww1
No, but that still does not make it's intentional misrepresentations justified.
>where did you get that from?
The link has been flung around the site, give me a sec and I'll look it up.
>>336782750
>is to reflect how far reaching the war was
Except the war wasn't far reaching in this sense. Yes, it was extremely far reaching, it was arguably the first total war. But not in this way. There are billions of other ways they could have represented how far reaching the war was that would be more true and more reflecting of the actual historical reality.
Like the indian soldiers for an example. Or just view of female non-combatants.
>>336779206
>Battlefield ONE
>Xbox ONE
This shit is fucking retarded and needs to stop.
>>336783171
Basic attempt at armor, heaps of people did it. Soviet shock troops were doing it heaps during WW2, cool as shit. I'm more annoyed ad the retard standing upright on the trench, you'd think he'd want to take cover and not be a fuckin retard
>>336783216
It's not pandering, it's because EA knows this is going to spawn controversy.
All forms of discussion is good advertisment.
Look at /v/, if it didn't have a nigger on the cover, people would have said
>huh, a shooter on WWI, interesting
But now we will get daily threads saying
>WOW WHY IS THERE A NIGGER IN THE COVER
>>336783250
>miss all of the war.
??????
featuring black people means you cant have anyone else in it?
>>336783272
sounds like it pays a good deal of respect to the war and everyone who fought in it.
Also Verdun is pretty enjoyable for the exact reason it is not cod/BF/CSGO
>>336783008
>we don't know what the game is about
>buy I know for certain you're a racist for talking about it
you liberals are the fucking worst.
>>336782750
>>336782730
>>336782526
>In 1917, in a last-ditch effort to inspire the mass of war-weary soldiers to continue fighting in World War, the Russian Provisional Government created fifteen formations of women-only battalions. This included the 1st Russian Women’s Battalion of Death, commanded by Maria Bochkareva which were called into battle against the Germans during the Kerensky Offensive. The women performed well in combat, taking 200 prisoners and suffered few casualties.
My guess is some of the focus will be on these russian female battalions.
As for Blacks there was a very active theatre in North Africa, and I'm sure a great deal of fascinating things happened in that part of the world as old-world African warfare met new-age mechanical speed and efficiency. Imagine Mk.1 tanks and british soldiers meeting in the field with Dervish cavalry. Could be neat.
>>336783351
It's clearly pandering, but not to blacks, to Americans. America did jack shit in terms of actually fighting in WW1, but that didn't stop them from putting an American on the cover.
>>336779206
It's actually not, look at the trailer like ratio.
Significantly more positive buzz than CoD
>>336783292
They could have done it for the past games, because it's a modern setting and not about an event from the past, where people expect it to be somewhat accurate
>>336783171
Using an HMG like that is completely unrealistic, but armor like that did show up in the war. I think there was still a decent amount of melee fighting, so plate armor still served a purpose.
>>336783436
that certainly looks like a full suit of armor with a singular eyehole and underslung machine gun.
>>336783427
I don't think it's that much of a stretch to think people are racist for jumping to wild conclusions about the entirety of the game based on a black face. This isn't people saying "I hope this shows they'll focus on lots of parts of the war we don't know about" it's them flipping out.
>>336783328
>Actually, no. They haven't.
thanks for agreeing with me?
>it's not going to be interesting, it's going to be bullshit.
this is based on the what? 1 second of footage from the trailer?
>No, but that still does not make it's intentional misrepresentations justified.
battlefield has never been much for historical accuracy, you are saying its existence has been unjustified this whole time?
>>336783442
People like to hate CoD just because it's CoD. And now people are even madder because of the remaster being tied to Infinite Warfare.
>>336783429
>My guess is some of the focus will be on these russian female battalions.
I wish. It's going to focus on a fictional badass hardass beduin female warrior.
And you see: that is what is pissing me off. There IS a lot of interesting stuff that happened. I would have no problem if the trailer featured the Death battalion. I would have no problem if they focused on the dervish cavalry and the british indian battalions.
But instead, they go for black american and a woman warrior beduin. And that is really the problem.
>>336783576
Just one of many examples of metal armor being used in WWI.
>>336783390
I dont think the goal of this game is to pay respect
lets be real, they just want to make money
>>336780483
So why exactly are you so upset, anon? Are you really that invested in the campaign? Because that's going to be shit regardless.
Arguably the main focus of these games are multiplayer and in that respect who gives a fuck what you look like? When you're in the game the focus isn't going to be on skin tone.
>>336783620
Nah people were actually hyped for BO3. People really hate IW games.
>>336783635
why are you so worked up over something you couldnt possibly know
how do you know these stories will be uninteresting?
>>336782917
I don't think it's a problem. It's not representative of any conspiracy of racial hatred, it's obviously just related to the nature of producing commercial media to sell towards the most valuable target markets.
If you look at Indian telivision and film, non-Indian minorities are heavily underrepresented. When they do appear, they're heavily simplified caricatures revolving around a small set of the same archetypes. Similarly, Turkish media is consumed across the middle east, yet features almost exclusively turkish actors. It's not a problem.
There's no conspiracy behind it to keep the minorities down, it's just obvious that they're going to invest in the largest market and grab whatever sales they can for the same product for the much smaller minority groups. Developing a niche product catering directly to each specific minority proportional to their population isn't a profitable way to run entertainment.
>inb4 but america is different
America was historically never a global mixing pot. It wasn't until the 60s that immigration was freely opened to countries outside of Europe, and when the laws were passed, there was no expectation of the numbers that would come from the rest of the world. America's immigration patterns have followed specific trends contingent to history just like every other nation in history.
There is no duty for Americans to enforce some idiotic proportional racial representation that isn't true of any of those race's own home's media.
ARGH! Why is my Battlefield no longer wholly realistic? I lost my dad in the war and now this shit?! He was in a tank that was c4'd into the sky and hit a helicopter and would be rolling in his grave were he not obliterated into un-rollable ash.
whos ready for black nazis in 2019 in the next battlefield cover?!
>>336780220
Just because it's a videogame doesn't mean people and customers won't be upset at attempts to rewrite history to suit a progressive ideological agenda. Your argument is so facetious it could apply to literally anything.
>it's just a TV program
>it's just a movie
>it's just a book
>it's just a painting
>it's just life
Have you considered that maybe people are getting fed up with having their culture and history gradually disregarded and put down in favour of SJW progressivism? Video games are easy to ignore because people look down on them but the rot's spreading.
>>336782940
Not just /v/, but 4chan as a whole has always hated politics injected where it doesn't belong. Complaining about this has nothing to do with /pol/. Fuck off
>>336781854
Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour, what a faggot.
>>336781953
This, basically. Lefty extremists should all burn. Righty extremists should all burn. You're all as fucking bad as one another. Reminds me of Bravely Second when you get those choices and they're all ridiculously extreme,blackand white situations - the main character even calls them out on this shit once or twice. Hell, one of the reasons WHY they're taking this route with the game is probably because they know they'll get a rise out of extremist retards on both sides of the fence, which will cause arguments and discussion, which will raise publicity for the game.
>>336783664
my b
I mean't specifically solo machine gun knights.
I knew simple chest plates were in the war.
>>336783665
It makes no sense to me that CoD that explores a new idea for their wacky over the top fun shooter to be set in and is shit on
But Battlefield rides the corpse of one of the most heinous wars in western civilization, the war that set strict rules on warfare and broke the futuristic optimism of Europe and treats it with complete disrespect to accuracy and its heralded and lauded.
Angers me.
I'm triggered.
>>336779206
because i wanted a WWI shooter for a long time (no, necrovision doesn't count because it's horror-weird) and this is some sort of poor's man retrotech warhammer 40k bullcrap, and it's gonna be shit since has been "leaked" and they are shilling it hard everywhere, and that shows they don't even have faith in the quality of this pellet of shit.
>>336783756
>how do you know these stories will be uninteresting?
because it involves blacks and women and if they can be interesting then how can I maintain my feeling of superiority between sweating from movement and pretending I'm not a virgin
>>336783756
>video games
>FUCKING FPS
>uninteresting stories
pick 3
>>336783761
> Developing a niche product catering directly to each specific minority
so having a normal representation of people is now niche catering?
your whole post fails because blacks, which are certainly a minority, are represented just fine in movies
>>336779206
Because niggers are primo troll material to pretend you're upset about.
>>336783582
It just seems like such a clear indication of pandering though, and it very well might not be. Considering the last 15 years of war games have been devoted to WW2, the drying up of that well and moving onto a game that contrasts so sharply from white guys to a random black dude just seems so out of place. ''
It's not like it's historically inaccurate, it's like out of all the types of soldiers that could be representing a side on the front, they had to chose a token black dude. Actually, just watching the trailer and the posters the whole thing seems out of place, like it's all fucking futuristic and shiny instead of disgustingly grey and brown like we've come to expect.
Because people know squat about WWI
Because Battlefront was garbage
Because retarded 'Muricans can't gloat how they won this war all by themselves
Because people think WWI is just 100% trench warfare with camping
Because "LOL THEY HAVE MACHINE GUNS, THAT;S NOT CORRECT HISTORICALLY!!1!1!!!1"
>>336783830
But the people afraid of black people in their games are the ones bringing politics into things. Simply having a non white man as a protagonist or character at all triggers people who bring up politics even though these are companies just trying to broaden the appeal of the product they're not propagandists.
>>336783884
so then why get angry? even if they decided to choose the stories you are personally interested in they apparently wouldnt be interesting
>>336783602
>thanks for agreeing with me?
I misread you. My point is that there isn't nearly enough stories about the actual RELEVANT parts of WW1 history for us to justify focusing on the irrelevant or flat out fictional sides of it.
As people had already pointed out: There were many far more relevant aspects, like the involvement of Indians, the Russian all-female battalions, the white feathers etc... that could be explored.
So why the the black people, why the banshee beduin woman? The answer is: because those fit the intentions of current ideological currents and interests. Not because of them really being interesting and relevant in the perspective of WW1 events.
>this is based on the what? 1 second of footage from the trailer?
I've said it before that we can't tell how the final game will handle these things. But the way the trailer, the cover and the recent interview with the producer are clearly designed to draw attention to these particular aspects.
>battlefield has never been much for historical accuracy,
Belivability=/=realism. And as far as I know, Battlefield never intentionally skewed history to fit political goals.
>>336783834
put your second amendment penis extension in your mouth and pull the trigger (got it? because you libertardrian-cherry picking conservative types get triggered easier than a raging SJW) and then gb2 /pol/ execrable human contamination
>>336783837
I doubt they existed exactly as seen in the trailer, but Battlefield's not a full-on realism game. They'll prob include experimental weapons never used too for variety.
>>336783834
I'd say not to hurt yourself on that edge but I sincerely hope you slip and kill yourself on it.
>>336780220
>>336780923
If thats true, then why is there such a push for diversity?
>dude lmao, dont think about it, its just a game!
This has been the attitude for everything in pop culture, and look at pop culture. But yeah, youre right. Just a game, no big deal.
>>336783908
Further, the black population isn't a result of anything that happened in the 60's, they've been long established before then.
The whole post is pseudo-intellectual bullshit.
>>336783756
>how do you know these stories will be uninteresting?
Are you actually mentally damaged? I know I asked once already, but you avoided the answer. Do you have some kind of certified brain damage, cognitive impairment? Can you fucking read? Follow basic thread of arguments?
>it's okay because I don't care
>it's okay because it's a video game
>stop discussing it on the board made for discussing video games
>facts are somehow racist
>if you think Americans were not a big part of the war then you belong on /pol/
>rewriting history is fine as long as it's a game
I'm disgusted by all the things I'm hearing. The stupid thing is if they wanted to have a diverse cover they could have been accurate and diverse by putting the British, French, and German empire troops on the cover but fuck history amiright it's just a game bro.
>>336780220
Thats the point, we wanted a fucking WW1 video game not a social justice propaganda insert video game.
>>336784020
>Battlefield never intentionally skewed history to fit political goals.
and are they doing that now? in gerneal black people and women are respected throughout the western world.
its not like this game is trying to change how we feel about women and blacks, most people treat them no differently
Why can't they make a martin luther king game where he's asian?
How racist is it that he always has to be black?
>>336783987
> like it's all fucking futuristic and shiny instead of disgustingly grey and brown like we've come to expect.
I think that's a deliberate move on their part. Any time a new wave of shooters begins whether WWII or modern warfare the talk of "fatigue" comes up. They're clearly trying to bring as much variety as they can to something people see as one thing (namely dirt and trenches). Seems more like a marketing move than political one. People feel like they've seen plenty WWII games and that WWI doesn't suit the genre as much but Dice are trying to prove them wrong. And hope that with more variety there's a wider group of people it can appeal to.
>>336783908
>so having a normal representation of people is now niche catering?
No, I mean creating movies that specifically target the Asian American, or whatever minority group, audience. An entertainment product is made to sell to a group, a movie, for example, isn't sold to all of America, but a specifically targeted group in income, race, gender, etc. Whatever metrics have been deemed useful in practice.
There is a strong market for black films, music, etc. that are very clearly targetting the black minority. They have a market share large enough to warrant it, and so it's produced. They didn't pass your accurate ratio test because there's a lot of dindus in Transformers, there aren't. They did it because they make comedies, action films etc. for them, they have since the 70s.
Asian Americans, hispanics, etc. haven't reached that tipping point. That's why they're "underrepresented"
>your whole post fails because blacks, which are certainly a minority, are represented just fine in movies
In any case, this didn't negate anything I said. Consider this my last reply to you, you didn't deserve even a second response
>>336784147
>im running out of fallacies, good thing I saved the best for last
>>336784209
>its not like this game is trying to change how we feel about women and black
where have you been the last 6 years?
>>336781057
You are the cancer killing the human race
what video games should I play to celebrate brushing my teeth for the first time in a month?
Just because it's probably forced.
I don't care what they think I just don't want them to tell me what to think.
>>336783284
are you saying there wasnt a single nigger in ww1? if you are then you are simply wrong you retard, dont claim to defend historical accuracy if you dont know jack shit about history
>first gameplay trailer
>soldier bashes german with mace
>turns and no scopes another
>jumps off burning zeppelin
>shoots pilot out plane and jumps in
>black face
WHATTHEFUCKSOUNREALISTIC!? REEEEEE
>>336784274
>No, I mean creating movies that specifically target the Asian American
thats nice but we werent talking about that, just movies in general
>In any case, this didn't negate anything I said. Consider this my last reply to you, you didn't deserve even a second response
giving up huh?
>>336784376
hotline miami is on sale
>>336784412
>putting words in my mouth
why don't you put a cock in yours because I never said blacks didn't fight in WW1
>>336784281
>im running out of fallacies, good thing I saved the best for last
I have not made a logical fallacy in this whole thread, kid. You, on the other hand, clearly failed to follow the most basic argument thread: you can't follow the very FUCKING SUBJECT MATTER of the discussion.
We had established from the very first that the subject matter is how and why people react the way they react to the materials provided. That is, what implications can be drawn from the choice of focusing on a black guy and islamic female warrior as the two most relevant narrative elements of the trailer, the cover and the interview.
>>336784209
>its not like this game is trying to change how we feel about women and blacks, most people treat them no differently
That is very, VERY wrong on many many levels.
Personally I'm looking forward to seeing what the game is like before freaking out because the man on cover don't look like me.
>>336784507
>it's a good idea to retain some accuracy rather than putting in a nigger protag because we're a progressive swedish somlia that lives out of sheds
If it was a white guy on the cover people would actually be talking about the game.
>>336781854
you're on 4chan and the only reason to hate on black is that you're from /pol/
back to containment board
>>336783998
Disliking something does not mean they are afraid of it, they just dislike it
go back to what ever Fucking shit hole you belong and stop pushing agendas on people
>>336783998
Everyone is clearly triggered because it's blatantly forced diversity where there's no justification.
No one would be upset if it was Indian fighting for the British as has been stated itt. Despite being much, much more underrepresented, it would never be done because it wouldn't have won any marketing points with libtards while a BLM nigger does.
And no one has ever complained on /v/ that you have to play as a dindu in GTA: SA or a gook in Shenmue. The complaints are purely about the game injecting SJW propaganda.
>>336779206
it's not getting hate outside contrarian /v/ in fact there's hordes of preteenagers eating up all the astroturfing for this fucking game sprouting "FUCK YOU COD OLOLOLOL!!!11!1!!ONE"
What are you trying OP? Are you part of the shilling campaign?
>>336784532
>We had established from the very first that the subject matter is how and why people react the way they react to the materials provided.
we didnt establish shit, that was all you
>>336784507
>I never said blacks didn't fight in WW1
I guess you didn't, so you're saying their story is not worth hearing/seeing? So they did fight but we should not acknowledge that or portray that in any way?
Have their been many games about black regiments in these wars? I haven't played any so just from a "this is new" side I'm looking forward to it. If I wanted white dudes in trenches I'd watch Blackadder Goes Forth again or All Quiet on the Western Front or something. This Battlefield existing doesn't undo all the good done by whites in the war.
>>336784426
>for example
>>336784626
You know, /pol/ has become reverse "triggered by everything everything is a personall attack to me SJW" right?
>>336784532
>That is very, VERY wrong on many many levels.
okay BLM, just because cell phones are more prevalant and instances of racism are documented more frequently does not mean racism is becoming more of a problem
>>336780096
>historicaly inaccurate
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/369th_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)
Fucking idiot.
Just FYI
This thread and BF topics in general sitewide are being targetted right now by a coordinated raid from tumblr and others, specifically against people speaking out against the shoehorned diversity and about historical accuracy and respect
You have been warned, spread the word
>itt
>/pol/tards going full SJW and getting offended for someone else
>"This is offending to WWI veterans!"
>>336784740
why dont we fight back? who is doing this?
>>336784626
>Despite being much, much more underrepresented
It's almost like there's more of a market for black people in the west than there are indians.
>>336784626
Yeah, never mind those 350 000+ black men that took part in the US forces alone?
>if you don't agree with me you're a racist from /pol
>lmao it's just a game dood
can we stop talking about the finger (black guy) and focus in the fact EA is yet again throwing a fast ball with battlefield to see if it sticks.
Okay, I'll admit that since 4-hardline basically nobody gives a fuck about battlefield anymore and all the fans retreated to BF2 reality project
But still, pol is leaking yet again. Just ignore them because the more you argue with one of those faggots, the more he enjoys it while rubbing his nipples
>>336779206
diversity > historical accuracy
USA USA USA > only fought 6 months in a 4 year wars
BATTLEFRONT PAYnSRAY GAMEPLAY > Protect your fucking smart squad leader (BF2)
plane surface maps and no buildings > level design vertically considered
EA fucked up another gamestudio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ
>>336784626
whats it forcing? black people fought in world war 1 and black people still exist today
its not like no one will be interested in that story
>>336784784
It's almost like niggers didn't contribute to WW1
>>336784776
Because it just feeds them more and plays into their ploy to make people opposed to socjus ideology look bad
>>336784743
great, now you reminded me the last WWI died not long ago and now I am depressed.
>>336784918
>I cant tell you because I actually made it up
>>336784670
the problem is that when it comes to a small group of people participating in such a vast and world changing war, why a black dude? I'm not saying it's not important, but out of all the diverse battles out of the whole scope, it seems really arbitrary. I mean whether you like to admit it or not, it's the ethnicity that hints the most at oppression and 'quota' than any other group, and considering it's a European war it doesn't make a lot of sense.
>>336779206
Because thats what was intended. Its generating contraversy, which means publicity. This way the game either sells well due to it, or the devs can claim its racists fault if it bombs. Its a pretty solid tactic nowadays.
It panders to progressives in a way that makes them feel good about themselves and their ideals, and it fires up people who are fed up with this kind of hamfisted narrative.
>>336784740
>tumblr, a mostly american site, is raiding 4chan at 4 in the fucking morning
>>336784617
You're right, disliking something doesn't always mean someone is afraid of it. But the tenor of so many complaints, the constant strawman SJW boogyman references, and the sheer idiocy of so many complaints seem so misguided and warped in their logic that either these people are idiots or have deep-seated insecurities and fears of change and people with different points of view. People are freaking out about a "political agenda" being pushed but what is this "agenda"? That black people can be in war too? That not every soldier is a white guy? What's the insidious message being pushed beyond "other people in this world exist outside of those who look like us"?
>>336784670
>so you're saying their story is not worth hearing/seeing?
You all of a sudden think this is historically accurate?
>it was real in my mind
>A SEVEN NATION ARMY COULDN'T HOLD ME BACK
>WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB
>>336784090
Sorry mate, did I trigger you? Should I have put a warning in there for you? You don't have to take the "burn"ing literally, I'd just prefer it if you just buried your heads in the sand and never came out ever again. Moderate discussion of anything these days gets looked over in favour of extremism. It's bloody tiring. I know plenty of SJWs in real life, and their one-dimensional opinions make me genuinely angry half the time. Then there are retards such as those who frequent /pol/, who are little more than weird caricatures of tired racist stereotypes whose opinions aren't even worth acknowledging, such is the depth of their insanity.
>OPINIONS
But yeah, in the end it just stifles discussion through a large collation of white noise - nothing constructive gets done, it's all just hate. Hate, hate, hate. And it's all pointless. Left and right extremists all need to get over themselves, get some common perspective.
>>336784042
As for you, I can only assume you're responding to the wrong person. OH SAY CAN YOU SEEI'm not an Americuck
>>336784990
maybe they wanted to include a bit of everyone? a black dude, a woman, maybe a french guy, if we are lucky we might even get a german story too
you do know the story features multiple perspectives right?
>>336783830
t. 2012/13 "oldfag"
>>336785045
usually the time when thousands of fat women are done crying about their oppression on blogspot and must repost about it on a korean bike manufacturing book club
>>336785036
It's not generating controversy. You know what is generating controversy, the latest COD game and oh wait there isn't a black guy on the cover.
>>336784720
>single black US regiment
>assigned to fight for the French
>served on the front for literally less than half a year
>>336784990
>why a black dude?
Because there's so many games about war with white dude on cover looking down or some shit that they have to come up with new ways to differentiate themselves and stand out. Also they're going back to an old war but really trying to push this as a new experience and playing a black character in that time period is a new experience. I know nothing about these black soldiers and I like new shit rather than constant retreads.
>>336785051
>people that don't agree with my world view have deep seated insecurities, are idiots and hold warped and misguided logic
Excellent point, I'm sjw now.
>>336785057
if it's not historically accurate, then why are black guys a problem?
>playable niggers and women in WWI
>a nigger on the FRONT FUCKING COVER
Jesus Christ, you could probably count the amount of spooks who fought in the great war on one hand.
>>336785057
>You all of a sudden think this is historically accurate?
what is historically accurate? all we know is the game has a story about a black guy in a black regiment, which happened in real life.
maybe he will bust a cap in teenage hitler's ass but since we dont know I dont get why you assume everything will be woefully inaccurate
>>336785057
>blacks didn't fight
>I never said blacks didn't fight
>You think blacks fought?
wat
>>336784642
>we didnt establish shit, that was all you
Actually, it was OP's post that established this subject matter, and most of the people participating on the discussion, including me, expanded on that. If you did not actually follow what we are talking about, then WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING HERE YOU CRETIN?!
>>336784706
The point is that racial, cultural and gender differences are far more complex and difficult and far reaching problem than you are trying to present it with "most people treat them equally". These are political, ideological, social and ethical problems that persist and need to addressed further. The answers to them aren't easy and clear cut either.
The progressive left movement, which heralds the diversity representation as one of it's major tool is one of the existing ideological and political movements, and it is fair and right to question it.
Pretty much zero blacks fought in it (in any of the actual battles that mattered).
Reeks of agenda.
>>336785119
I forgot it's not a school night
well have a good one there mr nihilist
I trust you'll get done reading the first chapter of Nietzsche for homework this weekend
>>336785036
joke's on them, libtards shill and astroturf 20 bucks games for free and then they don't even buy them (sunset for example)
EA is completely off the loop doing social marketing, and they don't learn about their mistakes with failures like CISquisition
Please, watch this documentary, it's very good... I can't take the misinformation anymore. Educate yourselves, you don't even have to read a book to get the basics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WhqVgXz1UE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WhqVgXz1UE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WhqVgXz1UE
>>336784720
>>336785169
Literally more black troops fighting for Nazi Germany alone in WW2 than fighting for the entire world during WW1.
>>336785096
that's insurance the game will suck
>>336784908
>black people fought in world war 1
You mean the single American regiment who served the French army for a handful months at the end of the war?
Niggers did nothing.
>>336785263
> it is fair and right to question it.
I mean, go ahead and question it
I dont see the issue with thinking that everyone should be represented equally, but if you can think of a good argument go ahead
>>336785170
>a black character in that time period is a new experience
How? How is this in any way relevant to gameplay? It's an idiosyncrasy in a narrative almost noone actually knows about. It could not be more shoehorned and irrelevant.
>>336785417
assurance*
>>336785119
then that's worse because you aren't like that because they indoctrinated you in a bible belt state, you are just that self made edgy
>>336785420
>Niggers did nothing.
except for the scenario you just described I guess...
>>336785170
>constant retreads
There's been hardly any WW1 shooters, and it's a unique setting and experience as is.
>>336785469
>How is this in any way relevant to gameplay?
I dont see how it could be so why would anyone care?
>>336785307
How is that even a comeback? I'm a nihilist (of all things) because I don't care for extremism on either side of the fence? YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR YOU'RE AGAINST US! Goddamn.
It's almost as if you're >implying that studying philosophy is anything but a waste of time, and that's more idiotic than any amount of extremism.
>>336785096
What is it with game trailers and "epic" covers of mainstream music
>>336785051
this question was answered about five times already. You ignoring the answer does not mean the answer has not been provided.
People are worried about the ideology that is trying to create the impression that black people and women were equally as relevant (and in the same way) as white people at virtually every part of history (in this case, but pretending that black guys and woman warriors were equally as important and relevant as white male soldiers in WW1). Which is a misrepresentation of the actual historical events that took place.
Ignoring history, actual objective account of what had happened for the sake of political and moral ideal is the trademark of a totalitarian ideology: it's the notion that history should follow ideals, not ideals should stem from history.
guys again:
this is what EA wants, for you to argue about the black guy while ignoring it's yet another battlefield reskin
this shit is killing the videogame industry. Industry crash soon. And you will be arguing about libruls and racists while a lot of bright colored hairdo retards make empires with shitty games
Should've gone with a Gurkha as the MC instead.
>>336785492
That's literally nothing
Now, if it was based in the Middle East, then yes, you had "blacks" fighting.
You can't say this isn't agenda pushing. It is.
>>336779206
assurance
>>336785412
Yeah, let's pretend colonial troops did not exist.
>>336785492
>the smallest portion of fighters deserves to be on the cover, alone no less
You know what I think of when I think WW1, a single black person, certainly not an entire world at war.
I'd have no issues if they represented all parties but instead they choose to represent the least memorable and least deserving. Great.
>>336785492
How does serving the French in WW1 contradicting them doing nothing?
>>336785641
He'd look half-decent if not for that nonexistent chin.
Because it doesn't appeal to me, a straight middle class white male between 18-25
browsing through each of these threads, shaking my head.
so basically
>muh realism
oh /v/. i dont even care about this game, but at least i get a good laugh.
>>336785679
>serving the French
>the French
Gee I wonder.
>>336785640
>That's literally nothing
reading about it on wikipedia says the regiment paved the way for better treatment of blacks in the military
seems like a pretty significant thing
>>336785627
Nobody is buying this game faggot. It's obviously going to be trash.
/v/ has been waiting for a WW1 FPS for longer than it has PRESSURE, we're going to vent our anger now that the one that the one we finally get is this steaming pile of shit
>>336785487
Damn, you really have no idea that there's a world outside of America. Apart from that, I don't really understand where you're coming from, sorry. Are you in favour of SJWs? In favour of /pol/? Neither? Both?
>>336785737
It's WW1 not WW2
>>336785737
Keep talking, frog
>>336785290
>>336785420
>>336785237
>what are colonial troops
Hell, the french even had chinks from their colonies fighting for them
>>336785712
who tf r u
>>336785551
I don't disagree. But people have idea that WWI is all trenches and everything about this trailer seemed to be about how that was not the case. In every way they seem to be pushing against expectations.
The thing people should be freaking out about or worrying about is how they said on the stream that they've made stuff like flying easier and allowed for more "Battlefield moments". What makes those moments so great is how they can emerge naturally through gameplay, forcing it leaves us with Battlefront. But by all means lets keep on flinging shit about the colour of one dudes skin.
>>336785657
>the smallest portion of fighters deserves to be on the cover, alone no less
easy there buddy, I just ate, I cant fit all those words in my mouth.
>>336785657
>marginalized
>oppressed
>shunned
>volunteered to fight for their country on another continent in a war that meant nothing to them
<"undeserving"
Sure.
It would be more offending to just erase their contribution, instead of portraying them alongside all the other soldiers. Sure they were a minority, but they were there.
>>336785423
>I dont see the issue with thinking that everyone should be represented equally, but if you can think of a good argument go ahead
Because not everyone was equally relevant at every point of history? That there are considerable differences between cultures, races and gender, and that these differences should not be glanced over and pretended that they don't exist? Because a social order in which everyone is expected to behave equally and play the same role might not actually be a very good social order?
Because we should learn from how things were, rather than twist the reality in order to reflect our naive and poorly thought through moral ideal? Because our beliefs should reflect reality, not reject reality in favor of sense of moral superiority?
Plenty of good fucking reasons right there.
>>336785774
>no idea of outside America
>now are you /pol or sjw, the only two that exist
>>336785752
>dindu's sole contribution is making way for dindu
So is the game just going to be a "don't be racist, don't bully" PSA simulation?
>>336785817
"French" troops
>>336785753
Yeah, based on the whopping 2 seconds of maybe gameplay we saw! You're a master detective.
>>336785620
Who does including a black guy and one woman (so far) make the point that they were equally as relevant? Whatever that means. We've seen one black dude and one woman, and nowhere did it say they were the only fighters. To me it read more as (like the rest of the trailer) "This war reached further than you might think".
>>336785817
It's an American nigger. We've already discussed itt the missed opportunity to cover the African theatre.
>>336785845
They were literally 0.00000000005 of the war effort. That is not worthy of top billing. And you can take your libcuck 'muh opression' back to tumblr.
>>336785845
>It would be more offending to just erase their contribution, instead of portraying them alongside all the other soldiers. Sure they were a minority, but they were there.
Again: why black people and not indians? Because indians were far more relevant in the war, and their considerable role in the war actually warranted their liberation a bit later on. Why are blacks to be celebrated for their involvement and other minorities, that payed much bigger price and came from environment of much greater inequality are to be ignored?
If you are going to play the "but they should be celebrated for moral reasons", then you should really think this through far more than you did.
>>336785845
>instead of portraying them alongside all the other soldiers
If you had read my post you'd see I'd be fine with that but guess what, that's not how it is. That man stands alone on the cover, not even alongside his comrades or countrymen. I guess it's okay to ignore the rest of the world and their contributions as long as you focus on the "unrepresented" part, the irony in that.
>>336785753
you are giving it free exposure with all this unnecesary social-racial debate
>>336783250
>He doesn't know about world war 1 black ops
Friendly reminder that GTA:SA is one of the most well-liked games on /v/ in nostalgia threads which features a black protagonist, a huge list of black lead characters, and a large black/minority setting. Out of ALL the untold stories of a largely european struggle an american black protag/regiment is 100% the most arbitrary outside of trying to score brownie points.
Either way the game is going to be yet another garbage battlefield whatever clone crammed with preorder season passes and the like. These threads will be gone within a week.
>>336785850
Was a black soldier more relevant than a Bavarian soldier? Or an Aquitane? Or a Scot? Or a Serb? An Armenian maybe?
Even that's pushing it, because him being black does not make him any less a US soldier.
>>336786092
i don't know about all of them certainly.
But I'm saying bf is going to invent some super weight of the world shit so they can play revisionist.
unless youre just trying to make a pun.
>>336779635
>My brother and I were talking about it earlier and he mentioned that there's not engineer class in the game which leads me to believe vehicles are just powerups like in Battlefront, so it's hardly even Battlefield anymore at this point.
No engineer class? Source?
There are characters in the trailer who look alot like engineers and have shit like wire cutters and stuff on their character models
>>336785850
>Because not everyone was equally relevant at every point of history?
I didnt literally mean everyone you autist. I am not saying throw some siberian grandmas in the game because of diversity. Obviously it only makes sense to include people who actually were involved in the war. Given the fact that black people were involved, I have no issue with allowing 1 part of the story in 1 videogame focusing on black people.
>That there are considerable differences between cultures, races and gender, and that these differences should not be glanced over and pretended that they don't exist?
why do differences matter? you are saying that cultures that are different cannot be considered equal?
>Because we should learn from how things were, rather than twist the reality in order to reflect our naive and poorly thought through moral ideal?
sure, I dont see how telling a story about soliders that really existed goes against that though.
>>336785923
I forgot I was on 1/2chan /v/. DICE's trajectory with BF since BC2 is clear as day, they're terrible and there's no reason to imagine they're going to stop being progressively more terrible.
>>336786090
how much is free exposure on a japanese finger painting forum worth?
>>336785845
How come only the blacks are on the cover then if we should respect those who are marginalized, oppressed, shunned, and volunteered? Are they the only ones who fit that description?
>>336785942
>Who does including a black guy and one woman (so far) make the point that they were equally as relevant?
Their disproportional representation and the focus given to them in the promotional materials so far.
>>336785998
Whose war effort? The whole war? The American side?
>over 350,000 African Americans had served with the American Expeditionary Force on the Western Front.
Do you also find the Norwegians irrelevant in WWII?
>>336785942
Literally on the cover of the game, are you serious?
>>336786181
If you could prove there was 1 siberian grandma who fought in the war, then they'd not only be equally justified, but actually more obligated to feature her on the cover than your precious 'involved' nigger.
>>336779206
WWI sucks ass
>>336786203
its just 1 black person on the cover, and maybe because hes one of the main characters in the story
>>336784613
I hated niggers way before /new/ and /pol/.
If you had ever lived nearby niggers or gone to school with them you would understand.
But you're probably a cuck whitey that didn't even see niggers his whole life and was told how they're just like us, and how good and important tolerance is.
>>336786351
desu I'd be fine with a siberian grandma on the cover
>>336786372
so does your mom
>>336786351
> actually more obligated to feature her
okay dude yea, go ahead and explain your insane logic
>>336786007
I'm all for portraying Indians on the cover. I don't mind. The Great War destroyed so much that everyone participating is worthy of remembrance.
Of course the black guy is marketing. But it doesn't matter to me, because that doesn't make him any less deserving to be in.
>>336779206
Real Europeans are upset over simplification of history.
If you americans can't understand, try to picture an American Civil War game with black slave holding rifle and north army cap on its cover art.
>>336779206
>WWI
>NO MOUSTACHE
COME ON
>>336785891
>now are you /pol or sjw, the only two that exist
Yeah, that's the problem. That's the common dialogue, the simple branding that goes on. It's not just a case of black and white - there are many fucking shades of grey, but no-one gives a damn when they can just easily brand everything with one of two distinct labels. It shouldn't be that way and I'd love for that rhetoric to be thrown out of the door - that's why I was saying I was against extremism. It's far too prominent.And...I still don't really get where you're coming from.
>>336786083
Are you saying that the cover is more important than the game itself?
>>336786373
>its just 1 black person
Having it just be one is even worse though, who are they to marginalize his squadmates? Did they not contribute an equal share? What about his allies? They're all risking their lives for their country and beliefs. You're telling me there's not enough room on the cover to feature at least one of every faction?
>Story
>Battlefield game
lel
>>336786524
I don't know where you're getting that impression.
I enjoy video games and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the ww1 setting.
>>336786575
see what? that racist shitpost?
a black guy is least deserving because he is black? because thats all we know about him.
This guy could be zulu incarnate for all we know
>>336786524
In a discussion of an unreleased game's degree of forced politics?
When nothing but its a short trailer, an interview extolling diversity and its cover have been released? Yes, the cover is important.
you need to buy it just to play 3 hours single player campaign
>>336786470
>If you americans can't understand, try to picture an American Civil War game with black slave holding rifle and north army cap on its cover art
And hipfiring a Gatling gun while dubstep plays.
>>336780570
>black people never saw front line combat
HHF.
>>336786203
Are you saying that if we cater to one group, then we should also cater for everyone else, ever?
>>336786470
>impliying it wasn't the blacks with their superior egyptian knowledge of military tactics who won the war for the north
>>336786641
this entire thread...
>>336786693
Now it's racist to acknowledge the fact that the regiment made zero notable contributions to the war, besides apparently paving the way for less discrimination in the military, as you yourself acknowledged? You fucking racist. Consider yourself reported
>>336786470
Fuck off, stop saying that you represent all of us.
Outside of 4chan I haven't seen much hate.
>>336786728
Of course not. Everyone except men, whites and model minorities.
>>336786470
we have movies about that shit
slaves did fight in the civil war
>>336786728
>ever
No, only where appropriate, remember we look back on this as a world war, this is one of the more important moments in our recent history, as such it's something that should be represented properly.
>a bunch of black volunteers struck fear into the hearts of Germans, fought a flawless battle with no casualties and no retreats, tactical or emergency, just so fat white people that probably descended from some sort of Germanic barbarian shitskins or people who are "white" like Italians could say they didn't exist because it doesn't fit their narrative of blacks never contributing to anything
lol
>>336786181
>. Given the fact that black people were involved, I have no issue with allowing 1 part of the story in 1 videogame focusing on black people.
You may not. I do, because that one black soldier is there to glorify a shitty ideological stance, which comes at expense of thousands of other people of other nationalities representing social groups who had sacrificed far more in the actual war, who could be represented instead.
The black soldier is there because politically correct culture dictates that black people and women need to be treated specially, regardless on context.
Many nation and many societies sacrificed insanely much in that war. Blacks were't one of them. So why do we offer the space to them instead of those who deserve to be represented more?
They are there not because of the role they performed in the war. They are there as a display of political stance that the developers uphold.
>why do differences matter?
Are you FUCKING INSANE?! "Why does reality matter?" It matters BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT, and if we do not accommodate for those differences, and take them into account, we will lose control over our own fucking future. Understanding how the world is is the most basic fucking way to be able to make successful predictions, and based on those assumptions, adjustments to our behavior in order to achieve whatever goal we set up for our selves.
YOU ARE LITERALLY ASKING ME WHY DOES REALITY MATTER YOU COCKSUCKING IDIOT.
>you are saying that cultures that are different cannot be considered equal?
Yes. Also, what the fuck do you even mean by "equal", exactly? Equal at what? Equal where? What fucking context, what fucking level of analysis?
>sure, I dont see how telling a story about soliders that really existed goes against that though.
Why are they telling stories of blacks and warrior woman out of all the possible stories they could be telling?
Figure the answer to that and you'll understand the problem here.
>>336786698
And the trailer, showing a total of zero (0) black people.
>>336786796
Outside of 4chan expressing it would be illegal
>>336786098
Well I agree but there will be still those threads if not for sake of shitposting, it will be to set up strawmen by falseflagging.
>>336786383
>AMERICA
>LAND OF THE FREE
Only black people I've ever known have been as far from American stereotypes as could be. One I knew best was gay and had a penchant for making terrible puns.
Regardless, /v/ and 4chan in general are a lot friendlier towards blacks and such, these days. It's not just /pol/* - as an oldfag, I can tell you that BACK IN THE DAY, everyone was posting cp and calling each other a nigger. The atmosphere on all the boards has changed significantly over the course of the years, which makes a modicum of sense what with the fact that oldfags have either matured (ha) or been replaced with newfags with different points of view.
*Of course, /pol/ is full of degenerate retards
>>336786754
zero contributions?
they did fight, it even says the germans called them hellfighters.
>>336786753
I know it's hard to believe but I didn't make every post in this thread.
>>336786796
I'm not surprised since you're not allowed to have opinions on any other popular site, especially not ones with identities.
because /pol/ thinks they're the kings and shit outside their containment board
>>336786843
and .00000000005 seconds of gameplay
>>336786823
>represented properly
>in a Battlefield game
Are you serious?
>>336786917
>it's okay because it's a video game
Are you serious?
>>336786557
Fucking kill yourself. If they added in one person from every race into the story then the same fucking faggots would be complaining ten-fold about muh pandering and muh white genocide.
>>336779206
Because
>>336781310
>>336786840
>Why are they telling stories of blacks and warrior woman out of all the possible stories they could be telling?
Because their stories have not been told yet?
>>336786917
Did you know realism is not the only possible method of representation?
>>336786784
REAL Europeans
I don't take multicultural shitholes into account.
>>336786915
And even that bit is 1st person, I'd never even know if I was playing a black soldier or not.
>>336786917
What about Battlefield 1942? They represented as many factions as they could and it made the game better. More countries represented means more playstyles, how can you be against this?
>>336786840
>at the expense of
Do you have a source stating that it's only about the Harlem Hellfighters?
>the black soldier is there because politically correct culture dictates that black people and women need to be treated specially
[citation needed] seems like you're justifying the bulk of your logic with your projected end point which is LITERALLY NOBODY COULD EVER INCLUDE A BLACK PERSON IN A PIECE OF MEDIA WITHOUT IT BEING A PANDERING ATTEMPT TO [insert boogeyman of choice here]
>many nation and many societies sacrificed insanely much in that war
As did black people, who would literally apply for foreign armies just so they could better serve their countries because of the USA's initially archaic laws regarding black enlistment.
>they are there not because of the role they performed in the war
They're one of the most culturally significant things to happen to America post-war, though. The Harlem Hellfighters and leagues of African Americans joining the foreign legion just to be able to defend their culture did a great deal of good for America's perception of blacks.
>>336786994
No one's has. This is like one of the first WW1 FPS in existence besides a handful of mods
>>336786858
>>336786883
However, I have seen people talking about guns, gamemodes,destruction and even the potential for fun things to do in a wwI FPS. Haven't seen much of that here.
>>336786970
Are you?
>it's a video game and FUCK THERE'S A BLACK GUY WHAT THE FUCK JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT THE FUCK?????
>>336781291
Cite the verse.
>>336786840
>politically correct culture dictates that black people and women need to be treated specially, regardless on context.
??????????????
>So why do we offer the space to them instead of those who deserve to be represented more?
are you saying that europeans are not represented enough in WW1 media? good luck proving that
>Are you FUCKING INSANE?! "Why does reality matter?" It matters BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT, and if we do not accommodate for those differences, and take them into account, we will lose control over our own fucking future. Understanding how the world is is the most basic fucking way to be able to make successful predictions, and based on those assumptions, adjustments to our behavior in order to achieve whatever goal we set up for our selves.
YOU ARE LITERALLY ASKING ME WHY DOES REALITY MATTER YOU COCKSUCKING IDIOT.
are you insane? all I was saying is why do differences mean equality should be striven for.
>Yes. Also, what the fuck do you even mean by "equal", exactly? Equal at what? Equal where? What fucking context, what fucking level of analysis?
equal treatment you monogloid, thats what this whole thread is about
>Why are they telling stories of blacks and warrior woman out of all the possible stories they could be telling?
Because they wanted to? Traditional war stories have been told ad nauseum, maybe they thought something different would be more interesting
>>336787030
I come from the whitest country on Europe.
>I don't take multicultural shitholes into account.
What are you, a Pole?
>>336783498
But it is accurate
>>336786983
Nice assumption on things that haven't happened, I believe it to be the truth.
>>336786917
>>336787108
>are you serious it's current year
>it's a video game, something I don't care about t. /v/ poster
>>336786819
Again with this shit.
People KNOW this.
They were even on both sides.
But it was not about slaves/blacks or any other feel-good-bullshit.
>>336787058
Ok? It doesn't negate my point about the cover's relevance to the discussion.
>>336787093
Everyone knows the game will be terrible regardless of the controversy. This is likely the only discussion it's going to get except for shitposting on release day.
>>336786447
>But it doesn't matter to me, because that doesn't make him any less deserving to be in.
Actually, it does. If you are doing something over ideological or marketing motivation, instead of doing what is morally or historically appropriate, then you are a morally twisted person and your work is cynical and shit. Virtually any person of any nationality or race is more deserving to be given that kind of attention. If we want to talk about moral obligation to bring up the misrepresented, marginalized social groups, Arab, Indian, or Slav would be far more appropriate.
If we want to chose a person who represents the majority of those who fought, any white person is appropriate.
They decided to pick those who played the least significant role of all people who participated in the war. Because there is a political movement pushing for glorification of role of blacks and women-in-male-roles in media. That is the only reason why they made the decision. It's cynical, it's ideological, and it's worth condemning on those basis.
>>336786876
>oldfag
Get the fuck outta here
>>336779206
>it's another fragile white boi thread
Never change, /v/
>just looked at trailer for the first time
>no black people actually in it
>the entire comments section is just people shitting on CoD
Calm down, EA.
>>336787063
Are you implying that all the US soldiers in the game are going to be black? And that you cannot play as the Germans, the Brits, the French, and seems like even the Ottomans.
>>336787152
>are you serious it's current year
>it's a video game, something I don't care about t. /v/ poster
Who said this?
It fucking is a video game, not a history documentary
>>336787108
>Implying people don't learn "history" from video games
>>336786720
Oh yes
I wanted to forget about the dankstep part.
Who approves this shit?
>>336787108
I seem to be more serious about it than you, your post is literally a cartoonish exaggeration of my opinion and you're only doing so because you don't care about the subject matter, you're anything but serious, you're a joke.
>>336787078
>video games exist in a vacuum
Because Americans didn't do jack shit in the war, and yet they are on the front cover
I say this as an American myself
>>336787154
black people fighting in the civil war wasnt about slaves or blacks?
you think the black soliders in the north fought because they valued federal rights as opposed to the fact that they were fucking slaves?
>>336782530
I don't see a fucking cyalume on that soldier lad
>>336787121
t. Muhhamad Shmitz
>>336787194
You're not fooling me Drake, I know you're white.
Could anybody please photoshop chicken leg in the place of the bludgeon?
I don't get how you can both be arguing "it's just a videogame lol" and "telling the stories of minorities is important"
Aren't you the same conspirationists who argue that videogames are a medium towards white misogynistic mindcontrol anyway?
>>336787173
Probably should, to be honest. But some habits are hard to knock.
>>336787154
people do know this
but that anon didnt, given the fact that he said a black person in a civil war game wouldnt make sense
>>336787330
Brush up on your history. Abolition being any major motivation for the war was a later historicization.
/pol/acks have gone full autism
>>336787395
Literally mentally retarded telepath
>>336787239
>implying they would
>>336787372
>I dont get how /v/ has multiple opinions
do you think its just 1 person named 'anonymous' posting over and over again?
>>336787213
No, where are you getting that from? That's not at all what I'm implying.
>>336787229
Are you implying that just because it's a video game people shouldn't care? People do the same thing for all other medium, TV, movies, drawings, etc.. Just because you don't care doesn't mean other people shouldn't. There's no law stating video games can't be accurate, there's no dichotomy either, a game can still be accurate and fun, it takes nothing away from the game whatsoever.
>>336787160
>They decided to pick those who played the least significant role of all people who participated in the war.
But this is completely false. I could come up with countless of participants that had smaller impact on the war than black people.
>>336779206
It's because of rage from butthurt white micro-dicked racists.
>>336787425
brush up on my post because I didnt mention abolition at all
>>336787372
Who is arguing both of those things? I'd argue it's stupider to bitch about how disrespectful it is not to tell the stories of all the nations that lost people while at the same time chastising DICE for showcasing the stories of African American soldiers who joined the Foreign Legion to defend their countries and the HHF who had a gigantic cultural impact on America and did a number on German morale.
>>336781861
>British Royal Army
Stop doing this Americans, just because it's British doesn't mean it's Royal
Fun fact. Britain committed 2 million men as volunteers (this was before conscription) into WWI, there were obviously more after 1916 as the Somme offensive's staggering losses meant that the War Ministry needed conscription to bolster manpower
The British Indian Army sent 1.5 million troops and the Dominions committed a further 1.3 million (1.3m as a collective figure from South Africa, ANZAC and Canada)
5% of all of the males of fighting age in NZ died in WWI
Britain didn't bring African soldiers in because WWI was the first time colonial troops were used to fight another European power directly. Brits didn't want niggers being trained well enough to kill ordered formations of Euros because that would mean they could rebel effectively.
So there, not even Britain wanted blacks in the trenches in WWI
>>336787556
>I'd argue it's stupider to bitch about how disrespectful it is not to tell the stories of all the nations that lost people
who says they arent doing this? we know 2 out of the like 7 characters in the story
>>336787490
>No, where are you getting that from? That's not at all what I'm implying.
Just making a point that the black guy in no way implies that the game will have a diverse set of faction.
Knowing EA they'll probably be DLC but oh well.
Why not? Have you seen the cover? It has a nigger flaring his nostrils on it.
>>336787490
>There's no law stating video games can't be accurate
and there's no law stating video games should be accurate
>>336787616
We've seen Germans, Americans, Brits, Ottomans, ANZACs and French so far.
>>336786994
>Because their stories have not been told yet?
Neither were those of the indians. Or the slavic legionaries. Or the Arab brigades. Or the Russian all-female battalions.
So no, that is not the right answer. Try again.
>>336787072
>Do you have a source stating that it's only about the Harlem Hellfighters?
Is really following the debate so difficult? Why do I have to and remind you of the gist and the subject matter every three posts?
>LITERALLY NOBODY COULD EVER INCLUDE A BLACK PERSON IN A PIECE OF MEDIA
We are not talking about any medial work. We are talking about the cover of a game about WW1. Why do you keep forgetting this? Also, are you familiar with the idea of "straw man?" If you aren't you should read up on it. It's a logical fallacy that you just committed - in involves twisting words of an opponent into something he never claimed to make him sound wrong. Don't do that you piece of shit.
>As did black people, who would literally apply for foreign armies just so they could better serve their countries
Speaking of "citation needed"... How many black people did die in the war? How many of them were forcefully drafted, against their will?
>They're one of the most culturally significant things to happen to America post-war, though.
No, they really aren't. Also, the game is supposed about WW1, in which America was too cowardly to properly participate. So nobody should give a fuck about the ouchie america carried away from that.
Do you have any idea of what was actually happening in Europe - you know, where the majority of the war was going on?
>>336787527
i mean I hate the cover, but its because of the first impression it will give about the era being represented.
But I guess I should not expect much from sweden
also dont post michael moore like it means anything.
>>336779206
>A nigger on a cover of WWI game
>Why is this getting so much hate?
Are you fucking serious dude?
>>336783837
>It makes no sense to me that CoD that explores a new idea for their wacky over the top fun shooter to be set in and is shit on
Because Call of Duty has always had a retarded hate bandwagon and the same people on this retarded bandwagon see Battlefield as the pinnacle of team-based skillful shooters for whatever fucking reason.
>>336787601
British colonial troops are not the same as African Americans.
>>336787724
They all chimp out the same :^)
>>336780861
>Why are you niggers acting surprised and doing this
Way to show you come from reddit.
>>336787719
i guess its either one or the other and not maybe, moving onto another franchise that gives you genuine enjoyment.
>>336780169
Theres a huge difference between a developer making a WWI game, and EA making a WWI game.
EA struggles to retain it's relevancy with every single game release. It'll appease itself to a fucking half dead bum with no legs and leprosy if it means not being nominated Worst Company of the Year for another 2 years in a row.
>>336787692
>Neither were those of the indians. Or the slavic legionaries. Or the Arab brigades. Or the Russian all-female battalions.
You've gotta start somewhere. I bet you're the kind of person that would be completely happy if every new superhero movie was the Spiderman origin story.
>>336787709
>the most renowned division of the US Army was black
wooow why is that american soldier black i thought the war was when we bombed da nazis lol remember when we dropt the nukes on them
>>336787618
Please don't try and make points off of other peoples irrelevant statments, it would be better to just post your point on its own instead of trying to warp someone elses statement into something you can respond to.
>>336787654
Nobody is saying otherwise but you don't see people lambasting on the other side, it's only those who want accuracy that are getting any kind of criticism which really isn't criticism at all it's just people shitposting.
>stop liking what I don't like even though it doesn't effect me
>>336787876
>replying to a post that explains strawman with another strawman
Wew lad.
>implying I'm going to play this shit over Verdun
hahah can't believe I seriously considered pre ordering this. With a nigger one the cover and a women char. fighting in middle east confirmed this is gonna be so shit
>>336787893
>US Army
>relevant in WWI
Keep your shit out of Europe, please.
>W O R L D war
>Only white guys tho
>/v/ tries talking about historical accuracy in video games
>taking video games as a legitimate source of historical knowledge
They're fucking video games senpai. If you want to learn about history read a book.
So, it's fine to but black man in the cover, but not a hitler? Why?
>>336787907
Expecting accuracy in a Battlefield game is quite the same thing as expecting accuracy from a historical Bollywood movie.
Not to say that black soldiers in WWI isn't accurate, because it is.
>>336788012
The stupid fucking jacket cape is what makes me the most mad to be honest.
>>336788037
>W O R L D war
>Only black guy though
>>336779206
Because they are making a dudebro game about a war that was utterly pointless and effectively created every problem in the modern world.
Not to mention the idea of thousands of men dieing to only gain several hundred meters of ground means nothing like this.
>All these people talking about how miserable and bloody the trenches were don't think they would put the niggers there.
>>336779206
This was only the beginning. Why didn't you stop it, /v/?
>being ok with the tens of millions of lives brave soldiers taken in vain for the feelings of numales and nigger appropriation
Maybe if your grandpa ever told about the immense sacrifices and horrors their fathers had seen for the freedom we now have, you would at least have some respect for representing history TRUTHFULLY
>>336787118
>??????????????
Is that supposed to be an argument?
>>336787118
>are you saying that europeans are not represented enough in WW1 media? good luck proving that
Nobody is actually represented well enough in WW1 media. I was thinking of Indians, Arabs, Slavs, things like the Legions, various russian ethnical groups who participated on the front lines thousand times more than all americans ever did, or hell women in non-combatant roles. Basically, anybody BUT BLACKS.
>equal treatment you monogloid
What is equal treatment? Posting the member of the least significant social group as a face of your war is equal treatment to you? Is "equal representation" equal treatment to you? Because if you represent blacks and whites equally in a context where blacks and whites weren't equally distributed, that is not actually equal treatment.
"Equal treatment" you cocksucking piece of shit, does not mean anything. It needs context.
Also, this is WW1. Black people weren't treated equally.
>Because they wanted to?
WHY YOU IDIOT?!
>Traditional war stories have been told ad nauseum, maybe they thought something different would be more interesting
Yeah, I played hundreds of thousands of hours of games focusing on the stories of indians, or Czech Legionaries, you god damn cretin. You know, ACTUAL CASES OF ACTUAL INTERESTING MINORITIES ACTUALLY MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE WAR that did not get the spotlight in favor of blacks and token badass woman fighter.
They did not chose black guy for the cover because there weren't other interesting tales to tell and you know it, you delusional faggot.
They did it for a very different reason. And you just don't want to admit it.
>>336788134
Gaining ground wasn't the problem in WWI, holding it against the counterattack was
>>336787986
Do you seriously think your arguments warrant a well formulated reply? Wake up, no one takes race based arguments seriously these days.
>>336788042
> Communist flags in every game
> No nazy flags tho dey were evil
Soviets killed far more people than all of the axis combined
>Non reality based games need to be diverse
>Games based on real events are just games so who cares if they are not factual
Next up we will find out there was a Trans division because people need to feel included in what was one of the worse periods in recent history.
The audience for games will never be diverse until poor people in foreign countries can afford to buy the ridiculously expensive hardware
>>336779206
wait is that feld grau? or is it the french blue crap?
>>336788106
and the devs have confirmed that there will be a women character where you fight the turks in the campaign.
That is such a fucking insult to the men who fought it(hello great grandad) makes me livid that they even seriously considered it.
>>336788181
Just stop. You're arguing about a video game aimed at the AMERICAN market published by an AMERICAN company, and you're crying that certain slavic peoples are not being represented properly?
>If X are not properly represented, then Y shouldn't be either. Instead we should have Z.
>>336788083
Why assume people are expecting it? You don't have to expect something to give your opinion on it, I don't have to expect Battlefield to be accurate to be disappointed that it's not. To say that we as a whole should lower our standards is something I just can't agree with, you can't and shouldn't hold dice to their past standards whether they be good or bad, if their past games were accurate you should still expect their new game to be of the highest quality they can manage, if their past games were not you should still expect the same, you can't give them a pass just because they fucked up before, if anything you should give them more grief.
I keep seeing that in this thread
>don't expect highly of video games
>don't expect highly of dice
What's a good reason not to have a higher standard for our hobby?
>>336788330
>the woman character shown is a Bedouin
>The Bedouin fought the allies with the Turks
lel
>>336788237
>guys look at my slippery slope xD arent i funny my /pol/bros?
>>336787494
The argument really flew over your head, didn't it?
>>336787876
>You've gotta start somewhere. I bet you're the kind of person that would be completely happy if every new superhero movie was the Spiderman origin story.
What the FUCK does that have to do with anything?! Are you fucking high or just really, really fucking retarded?
>>336788179
there's a reason why history is an elective in schools (...and math, but that's another topic)
>mushrooms
>>336788369
>What's a good reason not to have a higher standard for our hobby?
Maybe, you know, realism?
>>336788216
>people wear pictures of Mao as fashion
>USSR memorabilia is hip and cool
>North Korea is funny
>Nazi Germany anything is the devil and you are a bad person for liking it
>>336788392
I don't give a fuck whos who, that there is a fucking women in the MIDDLE EAST where women were considered livestock fighting is insulting.
>>336788419
Piss off, /pol/.
>>336779206
Millions of people died, it's not an opportunity for you to push your agendas.
>NIGGERS WEREN'T IN WWI HURRRRRRRRRR
>Nobody knows about the Harlem Deathsquad that fought on the frontlines
Fuck off /pol/. Take your nigger shit to /b/.
BENEFITS OF HAVING A WAR DOG
> Can hear shells incoming before humans do
> Can warn against gas attacks
> Can smell wounded soldiers in no-mans land
> Can comfort the dying
> Can boost morale just by being a fucking dog
> Can smell spies and sneaking patrols
BENEFITS OF HAVING A WAR NIGGER
> ???????????
>>336788501
In real life there are other people that meet this standard, some of them have less power than big name companies like EA and DICE, I think I'm more grounded in reality than you are. To expect sub-par quality from a big company and be okay with it seems delusional and sheep like to me, stop giving them a free pass to churn out garbage under some stupid guise like "realism", it's greed not realism, it's laziness not realism, it's marketing not realism, it's anything but just realism and it shouldn't be the expected norm. Have some decency.
>>336788585
>2 battles
>one retreat
>as american
>last few months of WW1
This is by definition shoehorning
>>336788585
>0,0001% of soldiers
>sure let's just put one of them on the cover
The game is not even about Harlem Deathsquad.
>>336788357
Done by Swedish studio, and how the FUCK does american revision justify anything? This is about the FUCK WAR. You know: WHAT ACTUALLY FUCKING HAPPENED?!
BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT SHOULD MATTER TO PEOPLE YOU COCKSUCKING CUNT.
Who the FUCK GIVES A FUCK about someone being american? Does the market being american mean that it should misrepresent history? That it's OK to carry an ideological statement instead of historical observation?
Go fuck yourself you piece of shit. This is beyond belief. You LITERALLY EXCUSE ideological manipulation. We had seventy years of experience with totalitarianism and you still go and actually excuse this kind of shit. You deserve to be sent to gas chambers for this shit: you are yourself supporting and excusing a logic that is inherently and inevitably going to lead to increasing totalitarian society, where ideology matters more than history, than reality. It's beyond belief.
>>336788609
They would make you laugh and feel better about not being them.
>>336788208
They weren't my arguments, and they do deserve a well formulated reply because they're all great points.
>>336788710
but it's still 0.0001% so yeah
/pol/ btfo
>>336788679
This. Holy fuck americans are you even trying.
>videogame about a war is released
>uproar because there are black people in it
>uproar because there are women in it
>uproar because said videogame is not 100% entirely accurate in its depiction of the war
what fucking kind of autism is this, it's a fucking videogame for fuck's sake. if you want something entirely accurate why are you playing battlefield you fuckwit
>>336788585
The soldier looks like a german colonial soldier. He's using german weapons
>>336788585
>Harlem
you fucking american nigger
>tirailleurs
The guy in cover has a french blue uniform.
You play it then from the POV of a the french.
and again germany gets portait as teh bad guy. Fucking bulshit.
Fuck you I join a nazi party and support them. This time no WW3 we just gas and nuke the whole planet. Fuck you niggers.
>>336779206
Growing up there was one thing I used to admire about white folks. They never really gave a damn about race. Sure you cum stains were racist as fuck at times. But every other race of people I met were always complaining about how their people are not getting the respect they deserve, and how proud they are. I move to the states and its nothing but fucking whining from neck beards and rednecks.You mother fuckers run shit and you bitch like little girls on the internet about games and sjw's. Your forefathers would be fucking ashamed.
>>336788543
Yeah I agree. The Bedouin didn't have women fighting the allies
>>336788556
You don't have the faintest clue what you are talking about you cunt. Sure, anything you dislike must be /pol/. Because the world falls into only two categories: right and wrong, /pol/ is wrong, you are right. Simple, clean, elegant universe you have there.
>>336788609
He can steal enemy bikes to increase your mobility.
>>336788816
No one cares. If you want to discuss how leftist agenda ruins everything, go somewhere else.
>>336788757
I'm still waiting on a game about African tribal wars with white person on the cover, but something tells me that would never happen.
HERE WE GO LADS. EAST AFRICA CAMPAIGN WITH BLACK SOLDIERS. WE CAN STOP BEING FUCKING ARSE ANNIHILATED NOW https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)
>>336788609
Scares the Germans so much that they call them Hellfighters, gives up no tactical ground to the enemies, runs sanic fast and have zero casualties on the front lines.
>>336788906
were there white people in african tribal wars?
and last time I checked it wasn't white war 1
>>336788958
Well there must have been at least 0.00001% of white people there, just as much as black people in WWI, so why not.
>>336779206
Blue and orange aesthetic for a game set in 1918 mud trenches
They're clearly going for the racial quota and diversity by putting a black guy on the cover to represent the entire war. Who were the factions in WW1? Austria, Germany, France, Britain and THEN America in the ass end of the war.
>>336789016
jej
>>336788915
>black people in Africa
pls
>>336789051
>>336788915
Colonial troops fought in Africa
>>336788946
> Last days of the war
> Drafting literal kids and grannies
> WE SCARED THEN WE WUZ SOLDJAS N SHIEEEEET
>ayoooo das racieest!
No it's not, it's so clear it was just an attempt from Dice to be PC and to pander to SJW's. Of course it's not a big deal and there's no reason to be an autist about it, but if they wanted to make a realistic WW1 game they shouldn't have slapped a black man in the cover. WW1 was pretty much only European, black soldiers must've been like 0.1% of the fighters.
>>336779206
Historical inaccuracy, and not the negligable kind, the fucking flagrant rewriting of history kind. but idk what /v/ expects, this game won't even have trench warfare
>it has trenches and trench building you dumb nigger
And call of duty had jet packs but that didn't stop people from sprinting along the same predesignated paths for hours with moderate success
>>336789094
The colonies were the very fucking last part where world wars happened. Mainly because yurop got near destroyed fucking twice.Thrice if you include pripyat
>>336788714
What are you, 16 and experiencing your first bout of weltschmerz?
Is it so hard to understand that this is a video game and it's purpose is to sell as many copies as possible? If you want realism, go read a book or watch a documentary.
>Done by Swedish studio, and how the FUCK does american revision justify anything?
Clearly you have no idea how video game industry operates. DICE develops, and EA tells what they want in it in order to publish it.
>going to lead to increasing totalitarian society, where ideology matters more than history, than reality
It's funny that you whine about totalitarism, when you're vehemently arguing against the existence of different depictions of events. Not everything needs to be 100% realistic, video games the least of things. If you want a realistic WWI game, go play Verdun. Shame that the gameplay sucks and it has no story.
>>336788178
>watch taistelu näsilinnasta 1918
>there was a nigger in the white side
>>336788178
Absolutely disgusting. First Finland makes a war film about biggest Finnish hero and changes his skin color to black, and now Swedish are making a game about WWI with black main characters.
How fucked up is Europe right now?
>>336789221
Yeah but the thing that bothers me the most is that they were obviously just trying to be politically correct, just like many movies in recent times started portraying women and black people as heroes much more. Nothing wrong with that but it just feels forced and awkward.
>>336789184
I need to know what bliny is
To your point I think the reason people are upset about this is because it sets a precedent for the rest of the game, people want a good WW1 game, if DICE can;t even get the cover right what does that say about the rest of the game? People are not concerned abut race they're concerned about a game that's marketed as a WW1 game and will probably not be a good WW1 game.
>>336789387
It was an art production and in no way even tried to be historically accurate.
>>336789387
Americans are black tho, he's an american soldier, not European
>>336789510
Most of their target demographics don't know shit about WWI. It doesn't matter what they put on the cover.
>>336789016
source?
>>336780245
Remember thta DICE is swedish. That's explains a lot.
>>336783834
Not really.
People talked about what they picked first, then second in the later chapters, but it would cause a heavier discussion if people were locked out of the other asterisks until new game plus.
>>336789434
the way they said it kinda does come across as this yeah. I'm holding my breath. If the game doesn't feature theatres where there realistically was black soldiers and throws them into the major western front battles then i'll get mad
>Resident Evil 5
>as a whiteman, you shoot black people in the AFRICA
>racist
>Battlefield 1
>as a blackman, you shoot white people in the EUROPE
>diversity
When will it end?
>>336789862
your post is fucking retarded
>>336789616
Are you telling me that you don't believe that there was at least a single one white guy in Africa during the last 500 years, that was killed by an African soldier?
>>336780125
>>336780365
On a battlefield game??
>>336789924
Thank you for that elaborate critique.
>>336789924
atleast im not a color-retarded.
>>336790065
yes, unless you can provide source
>>336789862
Holy shit is this really the limited edition cover?
>>336790121
why should I give constructive criticism to a fucking retarded post?
>>336790131
hehe niger xD
>>336789862
>Battlefield1cover.jpg
>>336790173
I wish. This shit is great.
>>336790246
>why should I give constructive criticism to a fucking retarded post?
Why even reply at all, if you won't add anything?
>>336779206
Because EA.
/pol/lacks can fuck off.
>>336788958
European colonial powers tend to get involved in African tribal wars, then and now. But making game about African tribal wars is problematic, the niggers might just realize how much they have been cheated by whiteys.
>>336790138
Just like those photoshopped pictures of nigger soldiers during WWI, right?
>>336789593
>It doesn't matter what they put on the cover
Yes it does.
>>336787527
Michael Moore is a dinosaur expert now? The man knows no limits!
>>336789119
>Germans literally so scared of them that they called them Hellfighters
>PSHT THEY DIDN'T DO NOTHIN DON'T ERASE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF WHITES A BLOO BLOO
>>336790885
How?
>>336779206
Because it is looking like a historical misrepresentation.
There WAS black involvement in WW1, and there WERE significant individual black regiments, anyone denying this is retarded.
But watch as the game makes the guy involved in major scenarios in the war.
If it was WW2 it would make more sense, but WW1 was much different.
>>336791284
What do you mean how?
Are you telling me they could put hitler on the cover because absolutely nobody that buys the game knows anything about WW1 going into it?
Not caring about the cover and just assuming that people are dumb enough to not care about anything is still an insult to your target demographic, and makes the game and publisher look bad.
>>336791628
They could put Hitler on it and it would still sell.
