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>>336737243
The constant shitposting
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>>336737243
My life
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Played it 10 years ago. Back then it was called Team Fortress 2, and it didn't overlap its classes to pretend like there's dozens of them.
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Open beta let all the retards in
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>>336737243
playerbase at higher "skill" levels whine like bitches and get mad as fuck if you dont follow their meta game

Protip: its not a serious game stop going full fucking try hard
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Several characters designed purely for people who are bad at video games
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having about a thousand times more fun with battleborn
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the fact that Iv'e been trying to download the beta for the past 2 days on my slow ass connection

fml
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>>336737243
not enough content for the price and its pretty boring
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>>336737243

The team with the most minigun robots wins every time. Every game becomes an arms race of minigun robots. One team has one, then the other team gets one, then the first team gets two, then the end of the match lineup is nothing but minigun robots with play of the game being minigun robot holding LMB.

Fortunately Blizzard let everyone try it before they buy so disaster can be averted.
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this game is way better than tf2.
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>>336737496
are you Australian or something?
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>>336737447
>Objective based team games with a myriad of different heroes in each role

Yes, I will get mad when my team is supposed to push a hovercar and we have two hanzos and a widowmaker missing 80% of their shots. I'd like my games to last more than 2 minutes.
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Blatantly overpowered characters.
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Nothing. I really like this game and wasn't expecting to like it so much. Day 1 buy easily.

Hopefully the PC community doesn't get get ruined by hackers.

WINston is too much fun to use
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>>336737612
I live in the sticks.
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>>336737620
fuck your meta im a tracer a nigger up with my sppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed


also its a super casual game quit whining like a bitch and play a real game if you want super srs bsns
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nothing, this is the most satisfied i have been with a game in forever
>mfw people get so riled up by OW that they say it will be a dead game
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>>336737751
>fuck your meta im a tracer

>fuck your meta i'm one of the most popular meta picks
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>TF2 can not balance 9 classes properly
>Blizzard thinks 21 classes are a good idea
>Half the classes are noskill autoaim shit
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>>336737751
>not wanting to lose every game due to tryhards trying to show their superior marksman skeels
>super srs bsns

fuck off
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>everyone is slow as shit
>lets add a sniper that can kill them easily with one shot!
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>>336737848
still had people tell me not to use her and then proceed to throw a shit fit when i used her on defense
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>>336737751
Bro I just want my team to not have downs. Sorry if playing with retards is fun for you. Also.

>Not meta
>Picking tracer

lololololol
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>>336737947
Open beta scrubs are too shit to play her effectively, and so they think that nobody can
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>>336737903
NO U FUCK OFF M8
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>>336737446
To be fair, his turn speed while in turret could do to be a little slower, but really it's not tough to handle if you aren't a retard. Street pig on the other hand is fucking cancer.
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>>336737243
Nothing. The game is fun.
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>>336737923
I think this is the only legit complaint i have, snipers + one shotting is super duper gay in any game
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People don't know how to counter Bastion properly
People don't use character's special movements to get around
Infinite ammo encourages people to be sloppy
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>>336738119
>To be fair, his turn speed while in turret could do to be a little slower

They gave him the ability to rotate the full 360 degrees in exchange for taking away his Reinhardt shield

Bastion is fine, if anyone in this game is bullshit it's Widowmaker
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Gameplay is shallow as hell, and it is too slow for an arena shooter.
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No ranked yet so I have to deal with absolute shitters all the time.
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>>336737751
No, Quake is a super casual game where I can go in alone to a random server, carry the team and top the scoreboard.

Overwatch is teamwork objective based serious business ranked matchmaking shit that demands you have competent teammates if you want to win let alone have the opportunity to use the situational characters in their element.
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I actually think the game is quite fun but I won't be buying it. It was a really poor decision by blizzard to let us play the full game for free for a week. By the time the beta is over I'll definitely have had my fill of fun and be quite ready to never play the game again. It's just a little too simplistic and repetitive to have long lasting appeal. Also, it needs more maps.
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>>336738560
>It's just a little too simplistic and repetitive to have long lasting appeal.

Meanwhile, MOBAs have had the same map for a decade and are extremely popular
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I really like it, but I'm still on the fence. Like >>336738560 said, its simplistic in design. The depth only comes from mastering every character in the roster, but most people only bother with a small subset.
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>Slow movement
>Lots of autoaim
>Abilities and meta more important than aiming and movement
It's TF2 redesigned for consoles
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>I've played this game for 2 days, but let me tell you about how I've already mastered it because it's simplistic
>also nerf bastion and mei
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>>336738989

It's a good thing we've got the real master here to set everyone straight and get those preorders back on track. Doing god's work, anon.
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>>336738989
It's TF2 except now you can press shift to sprint and every minute or so you can press E to make all of your shots automatically hit. SO FUCKING DEEP.
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>>336738661
You are right. It just needs more characters with more outlandish abilities.
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>>336739209
>this game is so easy and casual lel
>meanwhile half the posts are people whining about bottom-tier characters like Bastion and Mei and Torb
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>>336738119
>Free Ultimate: The Character

He's a waste of space. Just press S, nigga. Just walk away.
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>>336738989

Yeah, this is a little weird to me. Just say you don't like it, that's fine.

My problem with this is that premaking is really close to mandatory, going lone-wolf is really hard to make work. You can at least spawn camp with tracer and one-shot a lot of classes with the sniper if you don't give a shit about teamwork or objectives I guess.
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>>336739140
>Say stupid shit, get told you're not good at the game, reply with more stupid shit

the /v/ way
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>>336737243
Nothing went wrong.
It never had a chance to begin with
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>>336737741
Don't ever pay verizon for Internet. Its terrible
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>tfw you charge tackle a Mercy
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>>336739442

>Walk away
>Never contest the objective
>Robot wins
>Play of the game: robot spinning his mouse around 360 while holding LMB and geting 5 kills
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I can just see it going down the route of everyone intentionally picking the most dickish team combos every game just to make it misery for everyone to play. Add in the fact that matchmaking in these kind of games hardly ever makes balanced teams just makes matters worse.
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>>336739840
I'm talking about Roadhog. Bastion is manageable unless he's in a sneaky hiding space.
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>press e
>walk up to point blank range
>hold down m2 in your general direction

heh, nuthin' personal there, kiddo
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>>336740271
Roadhog is fine, he's basically a walking ult battery for the opposing team
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this game looks like LOL of team based FPS games
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>>336741742
>lots of incredibly strong abilities that don't require skill or aiming to use
You mean Dota of team based FPS games
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>>336737243
Nothing.
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Tracer a CUTE
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>>336737243
>Boring environments that can't be used tactically.
>No character weapon customization.
>No worthy unlocks.
Never seen a game that got this stale in such a short time.
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They really need to do something about the post-death wait time.

7 seconds to respawn then another 15 seconds to return to the fight? Fucking hell.

Also where's the team deathmatch?

And nerf Roadhog's chain. It just gives shitters a free kill.
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>map with chokepoints
>defending team has junkrat and 2 bastions

OH BOY
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When I join a game and theres a Bastion I pick either Reinhardt/Mercy and ride them the entire round. How rude am I out of ten?
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>>336742759
In case you haven't noticed, the entire game is built around giving shitters free kills
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>>336737243
in-game hacks
bullshit ultimates
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How do we fix bastion?

How about make mercy NOT BE ABLE TO HEAL HIM, or make it so he can't heal himself whilst in turret form, or make him slide off the payload? I've tried so many fucking times to kill bastion but you can't.

>bastion is near teammates if hes in a dumb stop
>bastion is not in a dumb flankable spot if hes not near team mates

Like holy fuck why is bastion so broken?
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needs more sexy girl characters but the ones it has are good
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>>336737243
>What went wrong
Nigger come back when the piece of shit game releases and not post this shit when it's in beta unless it's literally on the same level as DOOM-tier awful which I highly fucking doubt.
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Played both the pc and ps4 version. Some characters such as Tracer are unplayble with a controller, even if you max out the sensitivity, it is still too slow.

Also, most people on the ps4 had no idea what they were doing.
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>>336738967
You gotta explain how 1 ult consists as "lots of autoaim"
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>>336743434
Just increase his turret's reload time.
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>>336743434
>I've tried so many fucking times to kill bastion but you can't.

Widowmaker, Genji, Junkrat, and to an extent Tracer/Roadhog can all deal with him.
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>>336743854
Quite a few characters have left mouse attacks that auto aim. Of course hes using that term loosely and includes things like Mcree and Reaper which you cant really miss.
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>>336743434

Just stay out of sight and attack him up close.
There are alot of diffrent paths that'll take you up close or to a flank of him easily.
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>>336744237
A decent Bastion wont give no fucks about close range. Stay Calm and Keep LMB.
Killed a fair number of Winstons and other mid-range attackers thinking that would work.
I'll say that they do need to restrict deployment on payload. As much as I abuse it, I think its bullshit.

And pretty sure Roadhog has some damage resist issues.
Scoring a full round of direct hits with Pharah's rockets and not seeing his healthbar move is infuriating.
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>>336737243
When will this shilling end? Another week?
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>>336745074
When the beta is over
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>>336737554
Humanity is fucked...
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>Escorting the payload
>be Reinhardt
>keep my barrier up in front of the payload
>teammate Bastion goes on top of the payload and goew into turrent mode
>shoots incoming enemy players
>they get rekt
>other team mates caught on what we are doing and covers our other exposed sides
>other team still just attacks from the front
>we win with no problem
The other team really suprised me how they Just kept coming and dying by the turrent bastion instead of doing something else
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>>336744051
Ah I forgot about McCree. I think thé only character that truly was made to appeal to noobish player is 76. Other than that it just feels like people are mad when they get gib by ults that are ANOUNCED.

All in all my only complaint is tht the TTK feels a bit too short
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>playing any MOBA that isn't Awesomenauts
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>>336740359
>personal
anon...
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>>336743434
As someone who's played almost nothing but Bastion since I got into the beta, I can safely say that Bastion's no where near OP. If you can't deal with him get good he's just a noob stomper.
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>>336746076
It's not the fact hes OP, its the fact that you just can't kill him.

If hes in a retardedly easy flankable spot, his team is there protecting him.

If hes not with his team hes ina spot where you just can't flank him.
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>>336745471
Like what? Flank the bastion and have a fucking reinhardt shield in their faces? At that point you just need to stop and cry with a bastion reinhardt combo.
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>>336737243
The pricetag, otherwise it's really fun.
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>>336737243
I would fug that chick in the blue suit so hard.
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movement speed far too slow overall, combined with too much walking, teleporter is treated as a luxury

most new mechanics are unpleasant to play again or just too powerful

not nearly enough gameplay for a game that costs money

and the big one, they're balancing around top level play, not even valve is that fucking retarded
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Since the skill-ceiling is so low, the game revolves mostly around counter-picking rather than out-plays.
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Its fun but not worth $40. Not enough depth and content. Feels like it will get old after a few dozen hours.

>Play of the game
>Someone pressing Q and killing everyone

Meh
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>>336747234
exactly, that was the moment I realized the game was shit

I was getting wrecked by a cryogook on a node who was alternating making walls and just slowing my movement and then killing me

I realized I had no choice but to choose a longer range character....drrrropped
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/v/ loves this shit since it is a casual, low skill-ceiling shooter
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A lot of people say its a TF2 clone and boy do I wish that was true. There is nothing to learn with this characters. Their play styles are so simple and every one of them have an overpowered kill everyone or heal everyone move. It honestly feels like Heroes of the Storm where everyone is a winner without effort.
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A lot of imbalancing issues.

I'd feel better if people were better then me not just cheesing me.

>reaper gets health and wins the fight if he snipes the team mate right behind me
>mcree can kill a road hog or reinhardt if he traps due to traps being to long
>bastion camping in a corner
>reinhardt's shield being too strong
>mcree can fire as fast as he clicks unlike every other character meaning autoclickers a-hoy
>d.va can continue to spam her ungodly tanky mech if she gets 1 kill with it
>tracers dash charges too fast meaning she wins every engagement
>every map is against defenders, only 1 or 2 maps are equally balanced.
>defenders spawn 6 miles away from the defensive point
>defenders get punished too hard for dying
>in attack of anubis defenders are too fucking broken its insane

Which early beta tester played this and didn't think these issues were big in this game?
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>>336737243
>no customization at all
>just shitty skins that change shit
Considering most of the "skins" are just paintjobs, its retarded.

Can't wait thsi game to have content 2-3 years from now. Maybe there'll be more than one weapon for class. Although that might be to intense for casuals.
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>>336747839
Wow, sounds a lot like you fucking blow dick and blame the game for it.
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>>336737554
It's fun but it isn't really better. TF2 is kind of the quintessential class based game, it doesn't mean Overwatch is bad, it just means TF2 pretty much nails everything perfectly.

Overwatch definitely has more variety in terms of gameplay though. Instead of getting new class weapons to shake things up we will be getting new heroes to shake things up that all play differently.
TF2 is still THE game though.
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>>336738445
>he thinks he'll escape shitters with ranked
kek
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>>336747982
Actually most of my problems come from me thinking the characters are unfair by wrecking as them. Pharah is also insanely mobile on every map. Theres no reason to play other people or mix and match when you get the same match ups every game.
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>>336747973
I wish F2P TF2 retards like you would fuck off.
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>>336747973
>implying the game will last 2-3 years
It'll be dead within the next 9 months, the year tops. It doesn't have enough shit to survive and gets frustrating and boring really quickly
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>>336747839
did you basically say that every hero is overpowered?
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>>336737243
>10 years later
>literally going backwards in terms of map and level design

lul
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>>336748227
>he thinks customization is f2p bait
kek

Its called variation and this game will become a tedium of 'play this 6vs6 without any modifications of you'll be given shit'. Especially once any form of ranked comes out.
Its going to be a FotM patch game, since blizzard have demonstrated very little ability to balance anything for years.
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>>336738301
I think Genji eats Bastions for breakfast. But fuck having to deal with lasers. Even fucking Winston is annoying to deal with
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>>336737243
it tried to launch same day as battleborn and got smashed.
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>>336748558

But Battleborn flopped too. Is getting bad reviews.
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>>336737243
>start getting into playing Genji
>crazy mobility
>laugh hysterically as snipers/bastion use you for assisted suicide
>dash and make bitches panic

This nigga gets more fun the more I play him.
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>>336748558
shit, what's battleborn?

Is it on steam? Because I don't see it on the charts.
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Holy shit fuck mercy. She can revive people, her ulti charges by her just healing.

>kill rein
>LOL REVIVED
>kill him again
>LOL REVIVED AGAIN
>try to focus mercy
>LOL FLYING AWAY 20 FEET FUCK U

Like god damn.
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>>336737243
on top of my head

Good:
>waifu's

Bad
>6 players per team (no 12 vs 12)
>maps with shitty layouts
>character balance is going to be a bitch
>no custom sprays
>blizz servers only
>ults
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>Just got 47% kill participation as Junkrat
>3 commendations
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>>336748558
Battle what?
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>>336750130
i'd kill to see upward, but it'd feel pretty empty with just 6 people on each team
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>6 v 6
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>>336752376

>Spam grenades
>Deal 5% total damage to half of all enemy team kills
>Expect upboats for your valuable contribution to the team

Overwatch is a masterpiece.
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>>336749369

She needs a player to be there in order to fly away. Stop bitching
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>>336752376

>implying 47% kill participation as junkrat is anything special
>implying junkrat takes skill anyway
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Team mates
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>>336738320
Oh yeah, I full heartedly agree
>1 second charge time
>no recoil
>high mobility horizontal and vertically
a good one is a fucking nightmare.
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>>336737356
Name one class that overlaps itself
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>>336752715

The game actually requires coordination, which is why pubs are currently awful. Going higher than 6 would be impossible.
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>Play defense on Winston
>Cart approaching the checkpoint, save my ult for just the right moment
>Bust my ult, keep the enemy players from reaching the cart at the very last moment, struggling with my very existence to keep 4 players off the cart, end up winning the game
>Play of game is some fag junkrat getting a triple with his ult that they enemies literally walked into
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>>336753240

TF2 requires coordination.
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>>336753567
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>>336753567
Not with like 30 players on a map. Nobody has really coordinated in TF2 for awhile now.
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>>336753717
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>>336753567
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>>336753467
It's pretty obvious from playing a single game that the 'play of the game' is 'highest multikill'. In a class based game.
Who the fuck cares.
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>>336753567
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>>336753921

Then why have it as a feature? It's beyond garbage
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>>336754097
Because Blizzard hide incompetence behind flash and style
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>buddy likes playing soldier
>someone else shows soldier after him
>I jokingly show soldier too
>game starts
>6 fucking soldiers
>win two matches 100% to 0, total fucking shutdown
Seriously, does he have a weakness? The hero I mean, not a team of six of him. He just seems like a great all-rounder, I can't think of any situation where he's bad.
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>>336754236
At least they have the decency to hide it.
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>>336754315
Dies to sniper instantly
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>>336754315
He's not too great against heroes that need burst to kill, or can just simply out damage you like a Bastion or something but honestly I'm not expecting much in the way of balance because of m-muh game mechanic.
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>>336745074
God forbid people discuss a video game on a video game board, anon!
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>>336751196
>6 players per team (no 12 vs 12)
that would be awful with how quick you die
>no custom sprays
Id rather not see anime/memes/dicks plastered everywhere
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>TFW your cock slides down one of your pants legs and starts getting rubbed as you bounce your leg

You may now return to your regularly scheduled program.
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>Enemy team had 3 or 4 bastions
>all in turret mode, all covering each other
>Reinhardt shielding them
>Sniper protecting them
>Still push to last cap, only barely lose at the last second because turrets behind spawn door and my yank is on cooldown from oneshotting the last little shit
Still close but goddamn I fucking hate this shit. Bastion needs a massive fucking nerf and Torb's sentry needs spinup time
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>>336746887
I feel like the slow walking speed could be helped if navigating certain areas wasn't a pain in the ass.
>they're balancing around top level play, not even valve is that fucking retarded
>a bad thing
at least that's giving me some relief
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>>336740359
>Not Nothin personnel pardner.
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>>336740359
I first got the impression that McCree was basically going to be a guy with a Deagle from CS, but it turns out he's just a stun whore with a ridiculous up close DPS.

Like he does alright damage on headshots but jesus christ the hit detection on his gun is so wonky and just inaccurate enough to not be able to do it that well.
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>>336755438
>Balancing around top level play
>Good
>In a game where skill caps are pretty low and limited to your cooldowns

m8
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>>336755969
balancing around low level play leads to Riot tier balancing. every month would be "nerf the character people are complaining about the most until we have to start buffing people."
it's a low skill cap game but let's not make it league tier skill cap
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>QtoWin or EZ classes for noobs.
>Bastion, reaper, soldier76, streetpig, pharah, demoman
>VERY poorly designed and UP support classes, except genji.
>Short matches
>Very bad map design, linear and spawning points are too far
>Half the people still thinks this is an fps and does not implement the concept of team fight.
>ergo team fights are shit
>cronic blatant and soulless neo-blizzard turd
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>>336756513
i forgot,
>infinite ammo
>slow movement
>Walk the wall kind of skills are sloppy and poorly implemented
>snipers one shotting

tl;dr it is a game made by kikes for casuals' money.
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>>336756905
>snipers firing speed is fast enough that even though they miss the head shot they can just shoot you again to kill you
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>>336753567
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Really shit netcode
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>Over reliance on character classes having one button to watch the game play itself abilities instead of requiring skill
>6v6 teams means that if you manage to get 3-4 kills in a row, you have 10-15 seconds of the team being dead as fuck
>Only game mode is "stand next to objective" and the game is designed around it so hard that deathmatch and capture the flag modes would end up feeling broken
>The mishmash of characters with MOBA levels of differing designs and styles mixed with a bloom focused future makes the game colorful but also pretty fucking uninspired
Overall, it's not terrible but it feels more like a MOBA than a team shooter but since people die so fucking easily, it feels slow with long ass respawn times
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>>336737243
infinite ammo and a sniper rifle that shoots faster than a fucking Daisy BB Gun

It's honestly a mockery of every single shooting game that has come before it.

It just takes so many FPS conventions and chucks them out the fucking window without a single thought?

Infinite ammo? Sure

Radar effects let you SEE THROUGH WALLS instead of the minimap? You betcha

Abilities that kill people even though you don't have to aim at them or shoot a gun? Count on it.
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>>336737243
Roadhog
Baston
Tracer

Srs I started off with Widowmaker and Zayra and had to play some matches before I got used to their play style and started to play well enough. Then I switched to these 3 and holy fuck is no skill required.
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Every character is pure fucking cancer, that just makes me wish I could ban a hero from anyone in the game from using. I would insta ban Widow every fucking game.
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>>336737348
me_irl haha xd
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>Widowmaker absolutely destroying the balance because she can one-shot most of the heroes
>Ult is just wallhacks

Why is this game filled with so many boring heroes?
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Your mom let you live.
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>$60 for a f2p

lol
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>>336743769
Most people on ps4 have had access to the game for all of two days.
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something about it just doesn't feel right
maybe its the lacking blood?

i don't like how you get to keep your ult between lives. it seems like something better kept as a killstreak reward or like medic's ubercharge.

the game almost feels too politically correct with the races
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>>336764269
>the game almost feels too politically correct with the races

seriously? most of them are complete caricatures, like the kind of shit you'd see in a 70's sketch show
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Alright I dont think that Bastion is broken or anything, but how do you deal with him on that egypt map that has a single chokepoint?

We ran Bastion, Reinhardt and Dwarf on that bridge in front of the objective and nobody could ever enter at all.

Like that seems to be a massive fuckup on the map design.
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What went wrong? A shooter for little kids is less casual.

>Overwatch
+PC with a console version to contain the megabads
+Unique world and likable characters
+Will probably have a longer life span the average FOTM game with Blizzards name on it
+Visually awesome maps

-Ult to win, everyone is guaranteed to get several over the course of the game even if they are literally a chimpanzee, doesnt diminish with death in any way
-Limited mobility options on the classes that do have them
-Chokepoints the game
-Health sponges/Foam bullets
-Blizzard's usual shit balance
-Class/Role system like a MOBA, much messier than competitors like TF2's class system, certain characters are straight up upgrades over other, incredibly rigid in what each character can do
-This incredibly interesting world with great characters and there is no singleplayer
-Visual customization is locked behind random loot boxes or a cash shop if you dont want to wait for that item you want to potentially never show up
-Matchmaking no lobbies


>Splatoon
+Everyone has in combat mobility with squid mode
+Everyone has cross map mobility with squid jump
+Customization aplenty, differing weapon types, differing weapons within each category with different stats and abilities (alternates of the same weapon with different abilities) and armor stats gives tons of different viable builds to play the game with
+All multiplayer content available 4free
+Ults lose charge if you die
+Ults can turn the tide of battle but only if used intelligently
+Unique turf mechanic
+Unique world
+Post game content released 4free for over half a year after release
+Excellent map design besides Arowana Mall
+Singleplayer campaign with a decent amount of work put into the levels and setting although not the story
+Shitloads of character customization

-Singleplayer challenges locked behind 3 amiibo
-RNG weapon spread unless you play Sniper
-Console (proper gyro makes up for this decently)
-Matchmaking, no lobbies

The list goes on
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What went wrong? A shooter for little kids is less casual.

>Overwatch
+Console with a PC version to contain the hackers
+Unique world and likable characters
+Will probably have a longer life span the average FOTM game with Blizzards name on it
+Visually awesome maps

-Ult to win, everyone is guaranteed to get several over the course of the game even if they are literally a chimpanzee, doesnt diminish with death in any way
-Limited mobility options on the classes that do have them
-Chokepoints the game
-Health sponges/Foam bullets
-Blizzard's usual shit balance
-Class/Role system like a MOBA, much messier than competitors like TF2's class system, certain characters are straight up upgrades over other, incredibly rigid in what each character can do
-This incredibly interesting world with great characters and there is no singleplayer
-Visual customization is locked behind random loot boxes or a cash shop if you dont want to wait for that item you want to potentially never show up
-Matchmaking no lobbies


>Splatoon
+Everyone has in combat mobility with squid mode
+Everyone has cross map mobility with squid jump
+Customization aplenty, differing weapon types, differing weapons within each category with different stats and abilities (alternates of the same weapon with different abilities) and armor stats gives tons of different viable builds to play the game with
+All multiplayer content available 4free
+Ults lose charge if you die
+Ults can turn the tide of battle but only if used intelligently
+Unique turf mechanic
+Unique world
+Post game content released 4free for over half a year after release
+Excellent map design besides Arowana Mall
+Singleplayer campaign with a decent amount of work put into the levels and setting although not the story
+Shitloads of character customization

-Singleplayer challenges locked behind 3 amiibo
-RNG weapon spread unless you play Sniper
-Console (proper gyro makes up for this decently)
-Matchmaking, no lobbies

The list goes on
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>Buy to play

only idiots would buy this shit
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>>336737243
The shameless TF2 ripoffs that are payload and its maps

At least the game brought us Mercy and Brown Samus
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>>336737243
/v/ can't have fun and/or is made up of kids who can't spend $40 and feel entitles to get everything for free.
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>>336737243
Apparently it is babby's first fps.
I can't count the amount of times my team mates performed like shit, didn't use teleporters, or fucking camped at our spawn on a god damn point capture map.

The latter I just experienced AGAIN.
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What Blizzard did wrong is making a game that costs $40, so as to keep out children and subhumans.

Good thing TF2 exists, play that.
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Diversity
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/v/ and /vg/ just love to whine and bitch huh? Meanwhile I'm playing the fuck out of this game all week and haven't run into any of the bullshit you guys are whining about.

Maybe you're just not as good as you think are. Stop taking things so seriously too while you're at it.
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>>336737356
You're a fucking idiot
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>>336766051
>lob grenades at him with junkrat
>fly into air and shoot with pharah rockets
>snipe him with widowmaker
>play peekaboo with hanzo
>flank him with tracer

bastion is fucking piss easy to deal with
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>>336737446
I'm glad someone made this.

I got into a one-hour fight with my best friend last night because he was absolutely furious about Mei. I pointed out that his tactics of dealing with Mei (running straight at her) are very similar to "how do I counter a stove" and showed him the original comic about Axe in DotA. That made him even madder.

And I played Mei for 6 hours today, which will make him even more mad
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ults are way too game changing for how often you get them. this is very noticeable when a team keeps all their ults together and then the final fight is just a clash of ults, then they do it 1 minute after

can't see damage values, timers, range for anything ingame and it's not always intuitive. for example, zenyetta's rightclick with one orb does less damage than one left click attack (which is also one orb)

hanzo and genji exists
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>>336737243
I'll just get it when it's free or $20. Definitely not worth it right now.
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>>336767090
I would be okay with the game as is, without ults. Passive ult gain is cancer, and so many characters just build ult off tanks having huge hitboxes like Widowmaker and Pharah
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>>336754315
Roadhog double tap
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>>336737243
Nothing went wrong grab a few friends and fucking enjoy yourself
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Personally I think the free open beta fucked up the feeling of the game. People are streaming in and none of them know what to do, which gives a bad impression of the game to everyone else.
Can't wait for the game to be released so kiddies can't shit it up
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>hanging a bit behind the rest of the team
>its high noon
>entire team dies
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>>336755128
who the hell has a cock that big? isn't 3 inches normal? get a load of this freak, lol.
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>>336737446
It's funny because he can literally kill anybody below 200hp before his firing animation fully cycles. Or obliterate Reinhardt's shield in less than a full magazine.
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junkrat is cancer and the infinite ammo only makes it worse

you can just sit there spamming 125hp damaging grenades and get free kills
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>>336737446
you obviously have not been killed by bastion while he's getting the damage boost from mercy. shit is unreal.
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>>336754315
All-sixer teams can be fun, m8.

Earlier I played on a team of 6 Tracers in Nepal. We were actually totally kicking ass, until their team went 6 Bastions. We responded with 6 Junkrats, to be shut down by 6 Meis. Next round is on King's Row where the pull out the 6 Reinhardt strats. Then one shithead on their team switched to Lucio.

I really don't like Lucio. Playing against 6 Reinhardts is fun and hilarious (and really challenging) but playing against 5 and a Lucio is just dumb
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Map and character balancing.

Bastion shouldn't be able to heal in turret form OR should have a limit to his turn speed or radius

Mercy shouldn't be able to mindlessly revive 3 team mates and kill the enemy on the cap point

Streetpig shouldn't be mindlessly tanky

Pharah shouldn't fucking get the mobility for the shit she has. I.E rocket launcher and HP

Only good, well balanced character is soldier 76 and thats saying something when the only balanced character appeals to cod kiddies with aimbot.

If blizzard balances people i'll come back to the game but as it stands map balance is god awful and worse then the character balance so far.
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>>336768141
>Pharah shouldn't fucking get the mobility for the shit she has. I.E rocket launcher and HP
>getting mad at the only truly skill based class
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>>336768337
You misspelled Tracer.
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>>336768458

misspelled hanzo
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>>336768531
you misspelled Soldier 76
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>>336768141
who the fuck cares if you come back, we already have your $60 nerd
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someone put a turret on the payload and i left immediately
gg
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Mercy is so fucking annoying.

>headm establish

i know its not english but thats what it sounds like and she says it every 30 seconds
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>>336745647
>playing a game that died 25 years ago
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Winston could use some longer range alternative fire option.
Doesnt even have to be strong, just something.
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>>336768598
>implying I paid for it

Nigga I ain't stupid. Last time I did that was with brink and I learned my lesson.
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junkrat is fun
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>>336737243
People don't like FPS without ADS shooting.
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>>336768565
We're all soldiers now...
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>>336737446
Nice try fag he can camp out somewhere and pretty much pick off anyone who comes in the vicinity even sniping people from far away if he has a clear shot, his turrent can also turn 360 degrees so forget about being able to just take him out by sneaking behind him, the only good counter to him imo is Widowmaker catching him off guard but they can still take out a Widowmaker faster than she can take out a Bastion if he notices he catches sight of her fast enough.
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>>336769138
all classes need an alt fire
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There are people who will buy this game because of Tracer.
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>>336768141
>Pharah shouldn't fucking get the mobility for the shit she has. I.E rocket launcher and HP
Don't understand why people think this her HP isn't even that great and flying makes you a huge target.
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>>336747839
lol nice autism shitter ur shit and you should feel like shit you piece of shit
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Biggest complaint for me is the maps hanamura and Temple of anubis is just plain cancer. the maps have too many dead ends that could have been utilized as alternate routes but you get chokepoints instead. the medpack placement is all over the place as well
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My download always stops at 4.850GB
Just fuck my whole life up senpai
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>>336737243
Coming from years of tf2, overwatch is fun but visually very confusing. Too much shit going on in the maps, bright flashy colors, and an overall weird saturated color scheme.

I like the game, and I'll be fucking damned if junkrat isn't the most fun you can have in overwatch, but at the end of the day, tf2 still trumps it.
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>>336769975
There are people who still buy games from Activision period.
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>>336769975
>mfw the censored that sexy pose due political/social pression
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>>336737620
You sound like a bore.
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>12 maps
>6v6 only
>$40
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I don't see anything wrong with the game. I have a Twitch membership and what i see is awesome.
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>>336772154
>no MAMES
What she got against emulators?
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>>336751196
Why the fuck do idiots hate 6v6 so much?

Bigger isn't always better. It's usually worse
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The problem is is that it is a fucking multiplayer exclusive title. It is particularly jarring with this title because it seems like some poor asshole at Blizzard actually wanted to include some semblance of a story in there.

Heros used to be awesome! They fucked up robots and saved the day! Now they are not needed! But they are needed! Because reasons! And those reasons compel them to blow the shit out of each other! And even though there seem to be good and evil characters, they can still play on the same team because again...REASONS!

Why even bother? Why try to be something it is not? Multiplayer exclusive titles are the worst type of creative laziness because writing a cohesive story is hard you guys. Lets just give them them what used to be an extra feature and hope they don't fucking notice.This is fucking worse though because it is fucking pretending to have some manner of story where there fucking is none. They are showing pretty cinematics with some neat action and hope we wont notice that they are a bunch of lazy fucking Jews.

It's like releasing the bonus features of a movie without the movie but still charging full price.
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>>336773724
In all the time I spent on TF2, I came to fucking hate 12v12 and up. 9v9 highlander format became my absolute favorite. Honestly, Overwatch does a good job at giving the same vibe.
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>shitty map design where it's a tunnel and 1-2 small corridors on the side every time
>imbalanced as fuck classes
>3 modes that are virtually fucking identical
>shitty RNG unlock system so that you'll buy their dlc boxes
>insufferable community
>not even going to launch with ranked mode
>no singleplayer
>no co-op
>no different pvp modes
>all from one of the richest devs ever who could easily make a larger game
>60 U.S. DOLLARS

Probably in the top five worst games of all time, I'd say.
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>>336774071
Because Metzen wanted something new to write about/for, and the backstory serves as a means of pulling the same schtick Valve pulled with the Meet The videos which basically sort of builds up a universe akin to what Marvel/DC comics have.

So basically, MERCHANDISING MOTHERFUCKER, THOSE 120$ TRACER STATUES SOLD LIKE FUCKING HOTCAKES AT BLIZZCON. DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE TEENS TO TWENTIES DEMOGRAPHIC? BLIZZARD SURE DOES, BITCH, SO SIT DOWN.
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>>336774370
I was actually planning on getting the collectors edition for the soldier 76 statue but it looked like shit when I watched the unboxing video.
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>>336739442

that grabbing hook though, I don't know how to counter it because it's a stun and I almost always get 1 shot right after.
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Winston is fucking worthless.

>jump in doing no damage
>shield is too small and lasts for 2 seconds
>ultimate does no damage, just pushes people
>shitty primary weapon that doesn't even fit the character

Unless you're in the Greece map and the enemy team is retarded enough to stand near the edge, Winston fucking sucks. Is he just supposed to be a distraction? My friend was trying to say he's a 'tank buster' but he only helps against Reinhard and even then Reinhard can just walk backwards while his teammates kill Winston.
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On the positive side, what did Overwatch do that made it so the community doesn't play 4 Widowmakers like a bunch of retards?

Having 4-6 snipers in TF2 per match was one of the reasons I quit.

Keep in mind I've only played on free open beta, so there are plenty of F2P players right now.
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>>336775289
Wait rage mode doesn't do one-two shot kill melee damage?
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>>336775550
Well it does damage, just hardly any. Nowhere near what you'd think it does.
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>>336755845

the bad hit detection is what balances him out imo. if it stayed completely straight the entire multi-shot animation, you'd have to do literally no work to kill anyone. only thing i can say is raise the timer for it.
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>>336737446
Why are Overwatch threads always filled with reddit comics?
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>>336775683
>>336775289
gee it's as if winston is meant to create fucking space for you damage dealers to fuck shit up
God damn. I wish i was retarded as you so my fucking goverment can give me retard money to make stupid fucking posts like yours all day every day.
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>>336775550
No, it's just a massive pushback. Although it's easy to pin someone into a corner and kill them.
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>>336772010
Sniping which is my favorite thing in TF2 feels more earned with the Sniper than with Widowmaker.

I pretty much feel like I'm just bodyshotting to kill anything with Widow, due to how fast everything is. In TF2 everyone is mostly on land and moving at a steady pace so it's easier to focus on getting more headshots than bodyshots.
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>>336775815
>Why is /v/ filled with reddit comics

fixed that for you
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>>336775832
>push enemy back and die
>versus just killing them all with someone like Reaper
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>>336775815
Take a wild guess, memezilla.
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>>336775832
>create space

How? By doing his ult which is only available 5% of the time? By jumping in and instilling no fear in the enemy due to your lack of damage? His ult is helpful to this end, sure but only in literally perfect scenarios in which your team communicates perfectly and in that case you might as well just play Reinhard to create space. Winston offers nothing another Hero cannot do 5x better.
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>>336769386

this is pretty bad. It's really hard to fight widows who hide in dark corners and snipe, you can't see her to shoot back.
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>>336775949
Then play reaper and have every single person on your team play reaper.
Like any assfaggot game you need that compilation to be a good variety of things to do anything against competent players.
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>>336737620
Play chess.
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>>336737554

this image triggers me limitlessly
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>>336776064
>jump into the fray as Winston first time
>expect to start evaporating health with lightning cannon
>barely tickle their health bar while they quickly beat my monkey ass

Never again, at least until a patch.
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>>336775815
? comics like these always originated from 4chan
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>>336746852
Yea Zarya is pretty hot.
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>>336775815
fuck off cunt, unless you're baiting, in which case doubly fuck off
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>>336748558
>Battleborn
>2k games
HAH

Are they going for yearly flops now?
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>>336737506
Clear shit post.
40$ for OW -> price to high
60$ for Battlefront(way worse then old one) plus season pass -> its ok

GET A FUCKIN JOB! its not LOL and thank Gods ist not. Less of you fuckers is a great thing.
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>>336737243
TF2 could literally be twice as good as Overwatch and I'd still play Overwatch, anything that's half decent after 2000+ hours of TF2 is refreshing to me.
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>>336737552
its been 3 days of open beta? give it some time and people will learn how to deal with bastion with other chars.

And maybe they notice you have to change heroes.
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>>336754315
The more important thing is that your team is probably more coordinated than the other team. If not through communication, it makes it easier to coordinate what your teammates are probably doing, because you all have the same capabilities.
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>>336776454
Not him but:
Nobody said 60$ for battlefront was ok. In fact 90% of the threads were filled with how there was barely any content for it's pricepoint.
Also, if you don't want to enter your credit card information to yet another company on a possibly ill secured website, then you better get ready to shill out the full 60$ cause there ain't no 40$ physical edition.
From what I've played so far in the current beta I find even that even 40$ is too much, 20-30$ would be way more appropriate seeing as there's barely any maps while at the same time 70% of them are shit (there's almost always that one doorway where everyone has to go through with no way around and where everyone just spams shit)
Fuck off blizzdrone.
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>>336775289
He's pretty good in Nepal.
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>>336768852

Did some fatty put a shield in front of it? That happened to me, so I left.
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