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>Quad magic >Demi >Mime wow that was hard why do turn
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>Quad magic
>Demi
>Mime
wow that was hard why do turn based fags think they're games require any sort of challenge
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>>336733146

just play something without OP 6 billion damage abilities
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>You
>getting Quadra Magic or Mime without a walkthrough
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>>336733535
like what
>Play SMT
spam Prayer and Meditation
>Play Trails in the Sky
Spam art attacks
>Play persona
Spam enemy weakness
>Play dragon quest
Spam attack until enemy dies
Almost all turnbased games are shit or either broken,give me a legit good turn based combat game
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>>336734176
HoMM3
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>>336734176
>>336733146
>I watched it on youtube, SO EASY
You are the sort of worm that ragequit before even being able to achieve what you are talking about.
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>>336733146
Most people who play turn based games don't do it for difficulty but rather get enjoyment over how OP and broken they can make themselves
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>>336734176
>Dark Souls
Stand outside of enemies walk distance and spam arrows.
All RPGs are easily broken if you want to.
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>>336734098
Quad magic yeah I use a guide,but I got Mime by fusing a black chocobo,you don't even need quad magic for this fight,there's multiple ways break this fight with out mime.
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Does HP <-> MP switch materia have any use AT ALL?
Maybe with MP Turbo?
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>>336734370
Beat the emerald and ruby weapon before youtube was even a thing.I did break the fight by using HP absorb
>>336734517
The thing is here arpgs require reflexes and fast reaction time yes you can still overlevel but it makes it more engaging than menu simulators
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>>336734815
>dark souls
>reflexes and fast reaction times
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>>336734804
>HP <-> MP switch materia
Yep find a cacture to build up fast limit breaks,or just use pheonix for boss battles and use final attack to break the game even more
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>turn-based games can't be hard
>posts FF

Haha oh god.
You could at least use SMT or so.

And some of the PC strategy games of ye olde times like X-Com will break you in half.
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>>336735056
>I can meme
>Hey guys please respond to my memes
(You)
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>>336734098
Getting a green chicken isn't hard and that's all you need to get Mime and Quad Magic without gliching.
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>>336733146
>why do turn based fags think they're games

I DON'T THINK I'M A GAME YOU FUCKING FAG

REEEEEEEEEE
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>>336734815
you can beat dark souls by doing nothing but walk a few steps back till enemies stop following you and than spam whatever long distance attacks you have.
No reflexes or reaction time required for that.
And than you can overlevel yourself just like you would in a turn based RPG.
It's exactly the same
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>>336735279
Dark Souls is the FF7 of ARPGs in terms of difficulty.

It doesn't take reflexes to spam int and one/two/three-shot every boss with soul spear/anal beads.
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>>336735056
Artorias,Gywn, and Manus had me on my ass,you do need fast reflexes for those three.You have to react when they attack because they hit hard and fast.Tho dark souls is not a fast games but it still requires precise input when going against bosses
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>>336733146
>JRPGs are challenging
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>>336735453
So does any QTE crap.
No difference.
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>>336735376
Never implied it wasn't a games,just not challenging
>>336735414
Try doing that on bosses and see what happens unless you use a mage build,but then you're a fag for using homing souls in the first place
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>>336735491
>Football simulators are challenging
>Mario is challenging
>Touhou is challenging
>Halo is challenging
>Team Fortress 2 is challenging
>Sims 4 is challenging
>Battletoads is challenging
>Super Meat Boy is challenging
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>>336735650
>WOW THIS GAME IS REALLY EASY IF I LOOK UP WHERE TO GET THE MOST BROKEN SHIT THIS OTHER GAME IS MUCH BETTER
>but you can trivialize that game by looking up where to get the most broken shit
>WOW WHY WOULD YOU ABUSE THE MOST BROKEN SHIT ARE YOU SOME KIND OF FAG?
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>>336733146

Name me another boss who can fucking kick your ass so hard, he'll actually restore your health just so he can kick your fucking ass again.

Protip: YOU FUCKING CAN'T
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>>336734176
traditional JRPGs are pretty boring but stuff like the mario rpgs where you have real time mechanics in a turn based game are really engaging
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>>336735491
The last remnant-funny this is actually turn base done right
Bloodborne the old hunters
Kingdom Hearts 2 on critical mode
Dragons Dogma
Phantasy Star II
Vagrant story
Fortune summoner
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>>336735780
I already explain in the thread the guide I use was to get quad magic,the rest I did on my on,fuck I still haven't gotten the gold chocobo
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>>336736154
Yes, that's exactly my point.

>I looked up a guide on how to get the best materia
Is exactly the same as
>I looked up a guide on where to get the magic gear that lets me two-shot things
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>>336733146
The final few side missions in Bravely Default can be really fucking difficult even with all the game breaking stuff you can do in that game.
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Try this one
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>>336736283
Did you miss the part where I said that you didn't need quad for this fight,you can spam demi 3 and still get the same results with mime.
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>>336736154
>I set the game on easy mode
>Fuck why is this game not even a challenge
Bruh.
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>>336736483
Just like you don't need shit like the TCC or Crown of Dusk to trivialize Dark Souls, you can easily break the game with just the basic cataylst and pumping int.
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>>336735497
Are you baiting QTE's are scripted,Dark souls is entirely in real time
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>>336733146
It looks a bit like the great zeong.
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>>336736319
>Implying most people went through the game enough to get to the best boss fights in the game
>Implying the 'Waaahhhh it's so REPETITIVE' crowd even bothered with them
That last one which was a boss rush with every single human boss each in 4 party stacks was such a great fight. The ones before were nice too, but that one was just fantastic.
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>>336734176
I would but anything I'd recommend you'd tell me its shit anyways.

Advance Wars???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSAoggVnbb4
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>>336736604
>>336736527
Yep I did just that in dark souls to,why would I limit the game to make it challenging for myself.A good game wouldn't have such broken mechanics.Just look at the Bloodborne DLC those bosses can not be cheese with arcane or long range attack,only with specific glitches.
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>>336733146
>Quad magic
>Demi

You can physically hit it for 9999 what the point?
Just use KOTR and that is, 11times 9999 instead of 4.
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>>336736879
I actually like advance wars,and code name steam IS games can really be fun
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>>336736982
Because gravity attack in FF 7 are way to OP especially paired with All materia
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>>336737264
Again
your dmg limit is 9999 (unless you use glitch but that is simply cheating)
it is pointless when you can use a magic that hits more time and 9999 too
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>>336736319
Not really, if you just use Stillness they can't do shit to you.
Only some of the nemesis can't be broken that way.
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>>336735821
A well leveled Cinnamon with kitty gloves on + a good number of turns in hyper mode pretty much makes this and every other fight easy.

Her whole free healing and the fact she can be really good means I replace Axl right away when I unlock those gloves for her.
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I don't understand why people think RPGs take skill and hold them to such a competitive regard. Don't get me wrong, I love RPGs in general, but I like to play them since they don't require focus much like any other genre out there. I can just sit back and relax with these games. Hell, the mini-games within them usually require more focus than the actual game itself.
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>>336738898

Mah nigga.

But for this fight I actually used Massimo + Interceptor to make him miss a turn or two. Then I just use X & Zero with their 2nd hypers.
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>>336733146
most jrpgs are just glorified adventure games
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>>336733146

>if i level up too much and have the best gear/items in the game the game is too easy

Lol
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>>336734176
The World Ends With You.
Valkyrie Profile.
Final Fantasy Tactics.
Phantasy Star I-IV.

Quit being a baby.
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>>336740197
lol you can do this shit at level 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caDRL_baC6w
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>>336740424
I'm sure you've done this shit at level 7 :^)
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>>336734176
If you count SRPGs as Turn Based, then try Fire Emblem 6 on Hard Mode.
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>>336740424
That's not really doing it at level 7 though, you're still exploiting maxed out materia bro.
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>>336740483
Anyone could all you do is press a few buttons and get lucky with RNG,you act like this is some kind of hard shit in a turn based game,for fuck sakes if I can sl1 run in dark souls I for damn sure can do this
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>>336739439
This. I wish people would stop pretending that all that matters is how hard a game is. That's how Dark Souls was ruined for some people.
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>>336734176
The Last Remnant
TWEWY
Etrian Odyssey
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>>336740601
Yeah it's a turn base game unless you want to get one shot 100 percent of time than be my guess.it's not like you can dodge or anything
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>>336740776
The build being used in the video doesn't rely on RNG though?
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>>336740846
>>336740235
>TWEWY
>turn based
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>>336735776
Yes, all those games have stats you can inflate to walk over everything.
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>>336733146
>not w-summon mime chaining kotor
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>>336733146
Who ever said they did?
>>336741006
I just said it because it was a good game, man. There's a on of turn based games that no one even KNOWS about out there.
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>>336741006
My mistake. I thought this was a general shitting-on-JRPGs thread.
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>>336740984
well he did abuse re raise.
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>>336741169
>TFW the summon is so strong and takes so long to summon, you can go make a sandwich
A part of me really likes that.
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>>336741006
Okay, Radiant Historia.
Romancing SaGa.
Hell, fuck the other ones, pop in Romancing SaGa 3.
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>>336741437
>re raise
Sorry, I forgot what re raise was can you explain how it worked in the game you posted again? I don't remember seeing anything called that when I played it.
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>>336741208
TWEWY is my favorite game of all time, but if your point is that turn-based games can be good then bringing up TWEWY is only hurting your case.

I'd bring up Resonance of Fate instead.
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>>336741721
Nah, it's not turn based. Still love it, though. Also, I've heard good and fucking insane things about Resonance of Fate.
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>>336734176
>implying ARPG's are good
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>>336741698
Life nigga life if I was thinking of crisis core
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>He doesn't have Aura of the Valar by Balrog

Fucking scrubs who think the game is hard lel
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>>336742078
>Implying video games are good
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>>336734815
>ARPG's
>find whatever broken attack or strategy works the best
>avoid enemy hitbox
>win every fight

Let me guess...you play Dark Souls right?
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>>336742078
They're the best type of rpgs right above Srpgs,because you can choose for many different play style and have full control of your character
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>>336742480
Because in turn based you can't have more than one style right?

What?
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>>336736786
Eh it wasn't really hard.
The only one that could fuck you over was the alchemist and his fucking fire weakness attack.
And anyway once you killed that one party member that got their gimmick going (Praline/time mage/alchemist) the other three were helpless.
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>>336733146
this hole thread is fucking retarded and im outta here
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>>336742525
well you can,but you can't move,dodge,or strife,and the games are easier to break or just easier in general,it just makes the game barebones note this is how I feel about turn base games
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>>336733146
>any video game
>requiring any genuine challenge
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>>336742756
Shmups bullet hells
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>>336742685
can I come
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>>336737076
Too bad waifu emblem overshadows them
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>>336742852
Does it matter at the end of the day?
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>>336743049
Nothing those anon nothing
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>Equip two materia
>Win after Aire Tam Storm

I made your fight easier OP
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>>336743175
This guy gets it.
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>>336743175
Literally me
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>>336733146
>it's so easy if I google the optimal strats and use a walkthrough to get everything I need
lol
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Why can't people just enjoy video games anymore?
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>>336743816
Atleast read the thread,for fuck sakes I didn't have internet back than when I beat him
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>>336742852
>character action below shmups
Oh I am laffin
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>>336734176
Eh, bosses are the only really interesting part of Dragon Quest, it's all about keeping a good pace of buffing/healing/attacking, it's almost a rhythm game at that point. For long ass superbosses (see DQ8) it's also a matter of keeping your cool and not stroking when someone dies or when you get debuffed at a critical moment.
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>>336734176
Oh shit, and Final Fantasy Gaiden: Four Heroes of Light. That one's good.
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>>336741169
>KOTR linked with HP Absorb
>W-Summon
>fully recover after every use of 2x KOTR
>Mime that shit
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>>336744090
Shmups takes years to master,while games like Devil may cry,and Bayonetta can be master with in a few months.I played shumps since the arcades days,and I still struggle with games Dondonpachi, and most cave games.However I can go crazy on bayonetta with in a few days.
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>>336744563
Sure you can. Post your truestyle videos.
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>>336744563
>shmups
>move around avoiding this pre-determined pattern
>character action
>actually have to have precise input other than moving
Nevermind that your retarded ass compared a genre where the literal only challenge is moving around properly to multiplayer genres.
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>>336744719
sure when you buy me a ps3 capture card,and or give me a decent PC that doesn't shit itself when it tries to run fraps.
>>336744809
Are you fucking with me?most of the harder shmup games require pixel perfection movement.And no most of the patterns are not pre determined stop playing Touhou and you would realize that the harder shmups are heavily RNG base
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>>336745236
>not every game is pattern recognition! Some are entirely RNG!
Nice argument. I guess a slot machine is more skillful than fighting games too.
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>>336745236
>most of the harder shmup games require pixel perfection movement
So do fighting games, but they require a ton of things OTHER than pixel-perfect movement, unlike shmups which only require movement.
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>>336745457
Since when does Slot machines require to navigate through densely fast moving bullets that could kill you with one hit.
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>>336745542
I admit fighting games are more technical than shmup thats why they are in the same the tier.But sheer difficulty puts it above fighting
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