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>PLAY OF THE GAME
>Bastion camping in a corner with his minigun almost every time
Great job, Blizzard.
Wall-E loves his birdy. :)
>>336673967
How to fix Bastion
Make transformation time longer
Make minigun windup longer
Done
>>336673967
>almost every time
No "almost" about it, seems like literally every time for me.
>>336675690
How to really fix Bastion:
Playtest your fucking game and don't make a fundamentally broken character.
>it's that one support bitche's weak turret traps getting kills
>>336676664
This is what happens when you only give beta access to streamers and youtubers.
They don't give a shit about balance, they just want gameplay that looks flashy to keep their kiddies entertained.
>>336673967
>he expected actual skill from babys first fps made by blizzard
loving every kek
>>336677064
"lek" isn't a laughing acronym you fucking troglodyte.
> Bastion P.O.T.G
> He's doing what he is supposed to
I agree, bastion is too strong, he's broken right now
>It's a 'D. Va ults and then hides in a corner so the POTG is just her staring at walls' episode
>>336677342
That's "kek" you absolute fungus.
>open beta cakeboys still can't flank a bastion
Just give the fucker bullet spread already he doesn't need to chip people to death from 100+ yards away.
Why are people so dumb
>Enemy is camping
>Pick Pharah, the offense character made to clear out rooms with her fucking rocket launcher, and rape them
>>336677330
>Got one POTG as D.va
>Ult then get stuck on a knee high prop
>Kill 4 and myself
>>336677942
>spray 200 hp characters across the map
>get headshots and 20 body shots
>>336677942
I agree with this
Everything else about him is fine just don't get close to him, let someone who can sneak up from behind take him out instead.
"HE SO OP"
nigger he can't move lol literally just shoot a rocket in his corner and he's dead you can't miss lol faggot
>openbeta shitters complaining about bastion
Holy shit, /v/ really is casual.
Bastion is probably THE easiest to counter in the game.
>people still complain about the one hero half the roster hardcounters
Is this bait?
>see bastion
>pick genji
>bastion can't do anything
it's only op when there are no assassins actively hunting bastions or widowmakers
>>336677942
He already has stronger spread than Soldier.
>>336677962
Because /v/ is shit at games, just like all the Blizzdrones and other casuals that play this low skill ceiling game.
You guys haven't seen 6 torbjorn defense teams because fuck it's like vietnam
How to fix Bastion:
Git gud
People complaining about Bastion are the same retards who complain about sentries in TF2. There are like five different counters to everything in Overwatch, whether it's another hero, an ultimate, or just being smart and not going into areas that Bastion can look over.
Bastion is fine, he's only a problem when my faggot ass teammates are all playing offense characters and don't know how to flank him.
Means I have to switch to Genji for an even worse team comp, and deal with him myself.
>>336678406
>don't go there
>git gud
nice counter
>play Bastion
>friends play Reinhardt and Winston
>they take turns shielding me
>win everytime
>>336678383
Torb isn't even good. You should have seen him 2 months ago pre-nerf.
>>336678383
I was playing Reinhardt against Toberlone x 2 + bastion. Could deal with one, but there were too many flanks for him. Could have just went Pharah and fucked them to death but I was an idiot.
>>336676913
Reminds me of yesterday evening where two Symmetras build a trap in the first room when you come out in Hanamura with 6 sentrys and both of them bombing you with their aimbot weapons.
>>336673967
People already can deal with Bastion easily, what are you talking about? He's broken, but not in an overpowered way. He's easily dispatched.
He will never see high level play. He is forever king of the shitters though. Just like Rhino from Dirty Bomb. Insane DPS from his minigun, but never seen in comp because only shitters die to the minigun.
>Pick D.va
>Walk in front of turret or bastion and activate my field to eat up all the bullets
>No one behind me goes for the kill
>>336678491
If Bastion's set up in the left hallway, move to the right one. If he's overlooking a huge area, take the side routes. If he's on the point, get Junkrat, Phara, or use an ultimate to kill him.
Honestly, I thought you retards were supposed to be GOOD at video games.
>>336678859
It's been well established that /v/ is about as good as normies when it comes to video games. There's a small sample of decent players here, the rest are weak.
>not maining the best boi
>get four kills for the final push and win the game thanks toReaper'sult
>Play of the game goes to McRee because he killed two people at the same time with his ult, and then killed someone else
>>336678985
Whenever I hear his ult starting I may as well just take my hands off the controls. Doesn't matter if I'm alone, what class I am, or anywhere near the front line. It always hits me and I never see it coming.
>>336678985
I want to but every fucking time nobody picks a tank or a healer, so I ALWAYS have to play those.
I dont mind playing either of those roles, but I just wanna shoot stuff with grenade.
>Bastionnigs trying THIS HARD to defend their horribly unbalanced character
Didn't realize there were so many people hobbling around on crutches on /v/. Huh.
>>336673967
He really needs some kind of windup on his minigun, because if im hunting him and he turns into a sentry right before me and shoots me thats just retarded.
>>336678859
>supposed to be GOOD at video games.
>plays overshit
haha mate you're funny.
how can you call bastion op when things like hanzo and genji exist?
bastion isnt OP, but with the right setup he can be OP as fuck
same thing with mei, it's a team game and with the right setup anyone can be OP
>>336679320
They don't need to use a crutch, because they've got the fucking wheelchair.
>>336673967
Yeah play of the game is fucking dumb.
Bastion isnt OP though.
>Its a Bastion sets up in front of spawn with a Reinhardt in front of him and a Mercy/Lucio behind them kind of episode
>>336679486
Mei is good
Bastion is a one dimensional gimmick.
>>336679976
>next episode is a tracer going past everyone and capping the point and winning
I don't see the problem?
>>336679976
Use rats/pharahs/lucios blowback to disrupt them.
>>336673967
This
Bastions fucking easy to counter, but the cunt will till get a triple every game and it will be play of the game.
Fuck you Robot, and your cunt canary bird
>>336680005
Bastion isn't bad. He's got ridiculous damage and very little dropoff at range. If you move around setting up ambushes you can usually thin the herd quite a bit as they approach the objective. It isn't rare to get 2 or 3 people doing so.
>>336676639
>>336676664
Bastion isn't broken you dumb niggers, it's team work that's fundamentally broken. Go genji and kill bastion 100% of the time
>>336678859
You don't play all the latest vidya? Man I don't even like half the games I play but I at least give'em a go.
>>336680174
that doesnt mean hes a one dimensional gimmick. All his plays involve him running from point A to camping point B and healing and shooting until he has to dodge a Pharah to find a new camping spot.
>tfw countering Bastion's minigun with Genji's reflect
...sayonara mr roboto...!
>>336679976
> lel he used the most recent meme about episodes :)
>>336680081
That would work if Bastion's TTK wasn't .2 seconds on most characters.
>>336676664
How to really fix Bastion:
Make sure the people that are playing the game are not a bunch retarteds that would pick scout to go againts a heavy
>>336679238
It's so easy to destroy, almost any character can rek given 2 seconds of attk time on it
>>336673967
Bastion is so easy to counter it's kind of bad. I go Pharah and spam rockets then dodge back around a corner and they can never do anything.
>trying out Genji
>they have a bastion
>counter his attack every time with reflect ability
>bastion neutralized
It is a shitters making threads episode.
>Transport the payload mission
>Get through the first few checkpoints easily
>Enemy team picks 2 reinhardt and a bastion
>cant do shit
thats when i stopped playing the game
>>336680220
This. When I play Genji I don't even try for Bastion and he's the majority of my kills.
>>336680357
Not to mention Genji is fun af and a total noob stomper, much like bastion
>>336673967
I love having a team of bastion. It's a guaranteed win every time
>>336673967
>plays Overwatch
>>336680318
Pharah can height advantage.
Tracer can blink bomb
Genji can dash reflect
Widow can wallhack and you'll see him
if you're really in a shitty situation hanzo can shoot him through wall
If at short distance roadhog can eat him for breakfest with hook
Reaper can blink+storm around to draw fire
LITERALLY EZ TO COUNTER. All he can do is pick off a couple of people real quick then shift positions and hope no one saw him moving.
>>336680353
>A character is fine if he is a hard counter to 99% of the classes but theres one reliable counter
>>336680473
ha ha! ! fuk man that waz toally awesome1
>>336673967
What do you mean? its almost every time
Hanzo/Reaper clicking Q
>>336680647
I've seen two Torbjörn PoTG so far.
The first he didn't see a single enemy. The second he saw a bunch and fired like a madman but missed every single shot.
Can we talk about how dead this game will be if they don't implement more unlock ables than just cosmetic, tf2 stayed alive because you can unlock weapons with abilities. And I don't feel like they can implement that. I feel like a skill tree is the only viable solution
>6 year old budget pc plays this game like shit
Welp, guess its finally time for an upgrade.
Goddammit.
>>336680454
huh so gitting gud and fun seem to be a recurring theme here
Why do you fucks care? It's blizzcultist shit. I thought you guys wanted blizzard to burn so why are you so upset over one of their ultra casual games?
How to fix bastion:
Go pharah and side-step a corner with your rockets
Pub bastions NEVER MOVE
They will ALWAYS stay there and tank your rockets, thinking some other-worldly power will save them
>>336679451
I tried it out during the beta. It's TF2 with a lower skill ceiling, no F2Ps and on a non-shit engine.
I just don't understand why people on here have such a fucking problem with these characters. Is Bastion a good character? Definitely. Are there counters to him? Of course.
>>336680770
if you put 2 seconds into looking shit up you'd know they are going to be more heroes.
that just solved your problem
>PLAY OF THE GAME
>Reaper pressing Q
>>336673967
>PLAY OF THE GAME
>Mercy reviving 2 teammates and then does nothing
Wooow
>/v/ crying about Bastion
Is this bait?
>went mei
>pushing the cart, at the final stretch
>ice up a bitch and punch her shit in
>here comes the rest of the team
>wall off the escape
>pop an ult
>niggas get cold
>my bitch phara rains justice
>victory
>play of the game went to a bastion who camped spawn towards the beginning, he even died at the end.
My salt was immeasurable.
>>336681110
>rushing last obj as Mei
>use ult on point for a quad kill
>kill the last guy on point
>cap point and win
>potg goes to Mercy pressing Q and nothing else
Fuck this.
>>336680616
you mad reddit?
>Hook him
>Kill him
Bastion is shit
git gud
>>336678769
that will teach you for not doing it with genji and reflecting it back to him
>>336673967
>>336681071
Its funny when someone complain about that, because it's mean that you cant make anything better. You putting tons of dicks in your mouth, and you dont even relize that.
>Russian factory map
>Playing as dorf, put turret on the moving platforms near the second point
>Other team can't seem to comprehend shooting it
>PotG is me sitting in a corner while the turret murders them offscreen
>>336673967
It's always bastion in a corner or the pink mech bitch running into a zone retarde like, dying, and getting a mech explosion kill group.
>>336680994
More heros doesn't solve the problem for me, doesn't make it playable for more time.
>>336681275
I'd rather a potg go to a healer than an autoaim ult, if her revive then lead to an auto aim ult then I'd probably be more understanding.
>>336676664
but we are playtesting, anon.
>complain game has low skill ceiling
>can't outskill another player despite having dozens of ways to do so
Are you really this shit at games and that's your way of trying to hide it?
>>336673967
>>336681110
>>336681275
>playing as Lucio
>healing fuckers all over the place, running people to the objective, over 9K health healed, something like 65% of team damage
>1 commend
>play Widowmaker
>do nothing but grapple up to a vantage point and snipe the capture until we get it
>15 kills
>5 commends
>>336680542
yes, it's not like you can switch classes every 10 seconds right?
>>336677019
i agree with this. this game feels less about skill and competition and more about being epic and exciting for casuals.
it needs a little more balancing to make skill count more, to make heroes not die so fast, to make certain classes really feel like their classes ,etc.
>>336681493
>play of the game goes to soldier 76
>"oh neat, maybe he did some cool shit"
>he just ults and autoaims kills three players
What absolute trash.
>>336680616
Fuck off blizzdrone
Remember when Bastion had a shield in turret form?
Good times, good times
Threads like these are probably a good example of why this game shouldn't be free2play. It needs a casual filter.
>he killed me, and I can't find any way to adapt or change the way I play to kill him so I'm going to cry on the internet until the developers destroy the integrity of the game one player complaint at a time much like WoW.
Friendly reminder that this game is not worth $60. Save your money anons.
Finally get potg, but I'm torb and my turret kills four people while I'm twenty feet away making armor. Unsure if the play was for killing most of the other team or for making 6 pieces of armor in 5 seconds. It was anticlimactic to say the least.
>>336681701
To be fair he needs to have some bullet spread while in turret form. Shit's retarded when you have multiple Bastions.
>>336681667
>casual filter in a casual game
There won't be many people left playing it, the game appeals to casuals.
>>336681787
Its not $60 tho.
>>336681663
Didn't he have a limited turn radius too? I thought it was weird that he could have suck good range and even aim wherever he wants.
>>336681787
t. Gaben
>mfw people think Bastion is OP
pick an aggressive flank hero like this suave mofo or genji or get a junkrat or pharah to just bombard his shit
it's not hard, Bastion kills retarded players who have never played a FPS and have 0 awareness of the area
>>336681787
Not many games are worth $60.
>>336681852
You're right, the people who can't grasp the concepts of "adjust and git gud" are lower than casual.
It's a pleb filter.
>>336681626
>this game feels less about skill and competition and more about being epic and exciting for casuals.
???
HOLLLY SHIIITT
IS IT POSSIBLE
HOLD UP SERIOUSLY
IS IT FUCKING POSSIBLE
THAT A GAME IN 2016
IS ABOUT FUCKING CASUALS AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SKILL?
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
>>336681474
nigga a new hero will be a new weapon and new abilities
it's literally exactly what you are complaining about
I guess you can't "unlock" them though since you just be given them
>>336681493
I hear you. Last time I played Mercy I revived all 5 members of my team while going for the final push. Potg was 76 killing a kamikazi tracer being revived by me and using his ult on someone else.
>>336682057
When a game touts itself as being the "next big competitive esport" you kind of expect there to be some skill involved.
>>336673967
Everyone who thinks bastion is OP has a double digit IQ.
Non casuals and retards meanwhile know he is a low tier character.
>>336681893
No, it's €60, which is more
>>336678278
>>336678251
This is fine and all against an isolated bastion but I'd say 80% of the time the bastion has a tank protecting him and a builder or another bastion supporting him
Play Pharah and flank him
>>336681956
>be D.Va
>see bastion
>activate shield
>activate charge
>fly into him shielded
>unload your semen unto him
>win
Alternatively her ulti works well too, because he probably cant transform back fast enough to get out of the blast radius.
>>336682374
Name ONE reason to use Torbjarn instead of bastion.
>>336682578
why not both? with the right setup having both bastion and tor is fucking OP
>>336682578
He is a dorf
>>336682578
How is he not OP if he makes another character obsolete, isn't that kind of the definition of overpowered?
>>336682578
Well thats easy, he is not stationary and when you kill the tower torbjarn doesnt die.
Besides even if bastion were better than torbjarn, it could also be because both of them are weak. That line of thought doesnt imply bastion is strong, if e.g torb is shit tier and bastion is slightly better and low tier.
>>336682402
Route 66 defense with bastion is fun, you can trap new a in the cafe. One gets smart and becomes genji, out of no where a ren comes and bashes him in the face. He spends the entire match as my shield and only stop to kill Genji. None of the other team helps. The whole thing could have stopped if they had one road hog.
>>336677330
>it's a my team got hit by a D.Va ult, yes we're THAT bad episode
serously, that ult isn't even meant to kill people. It's literally the easiest ult to avoid
>>336680963
Over half the time though they are saved by a shield or healer. Face it, at higher level play team comps are built around supporting bastion
>>336682310
This is being touted as an e-sport?
With the quick kills and low tick it seems like it was designed as a console shooter that would make money through DLC and cosmetics.
Also having ults that maintain charge through death is insanity if they want the attack/defense maps to be competitive, attacker teams will just hold a line until all ults are up
>>336682738
No its not.
See
>>336682759
What if they were both unviable and bastion would just be a little less unviable?
He wouldnt be OP but would still make the other guy obsolete
>>336680353
>encounter a Bastion that is not clinically retarded
>he stops shooting at Genji when he uses his reflect
>he keeps raping your team
>>336682784
>higher level play
>bastion
Have you been playing this game for like 2 hours or something?
>Skirmish doesn't give you XP
For what reason?
>>336681956
>pick an aggressive flank
>shot him one time
>he just rotates and instakills you
I play Bastion and even flankers have a hard time killing me, if only i couldn't rotate 360º it would be considered a weakness...
>>336682525
You forgot the part where Reinhardt charges and stuns you away from the bastion before you get a shot off
Who /roadhog/ here?
>600hp
>selfheal 300 with a 4 secound cooldown
>one shotting squish
>blowing out Bastions that try to set up shot with my hook
I have not lost one game as Roadhog yet
>>336675690
Transformation time is fine, give the minigun a bit of windup and make alt fire spool the gun up early and make it loud.
Also give the gun damage falloff and actual spread, I shouldn't be able to cut widowmaker to ribbons when she's trying to snipe me from across the map.
>>336673967
THERE ARE 9FUCKING THREADS OPEN.
There is a reason /vg/ exists so you can discuss your turd game there blizshills.
>>336682578
his turret is basically free, if you kill it a Torb can put up another one in 4 seconds
if you kill a Bastion, he's dead
>>336677913
This tbqhwyf. I main McRee and killing a Bastion is piss easy.
>>336675690
He's already bottom tier, why do you want him in his own tier?
>>336682992
>Bastion on enemy team in Volskaya Industries
>Sits on one of those moving platforms on the left side
>Constantly mows down your team and there's nothing you can do cause the enemy team has the place locked down so nobody can get a good shot without getting shot
>>336682779
I use it to get all the enemies to leave the point to stall for my team, is this its intended use or are there better ways I can use it?
>>336683035
Roadhog is really fun. He's my second most played behind Pharah. He's not that good at actually preventing his team from taking damage but he's great at being an annoying piece of shit.
>all these open beta babbys that think bastion is OP now when he was nerfed a few times already during closed beta
>>336677019
He was considered OP at the start of the closed beta, the community realized he's useless since more than half the characters are hard counters. It's just pubbies are idiots anon.
>>336683035
>pick reaper
>kill him in a few shots
>>336683103
>I main McRee and killing a Bastion is piss easy
with him you shouldn't have any issue killing anyone
>>336682992
I go bastion on defense first every time. Just to test if my opponents are shitters. Half the time they kill me and I switch, however there are those magical matches were they just can't reach you and they start ignoring your team just to kill themselves trying to reach you.
>>336683217
he was ok the first time, with the shield and 180º rotation, it had an actual weakness
now he's just retarded
>Don't understand cause and effect
>Whine like a pacifier sucking pussy and demand to have people lower the difficulty for everyone else to your level
>>336679105
>playing as Edge McDark
>complaining about not getting the most screen time
18+ only, lad.
>>336683186
That's how most tanks are in this game. By being big and annoying you attract a ton of fire, freeing up the rest of your team to assist.
>>336683015
If we make up hypothetical scenarios its not like you dont have teammates either.
Anon you forgot the part where the widowmaker in your team double headshots that reinhardt so you can still go on :^)
We can spin those hypothetical scenarios into infinity, but that doesnt mean they are always likely to occur.
Also if you assume they get help from teammates, you should assume that you do too.
>>336683246
>Hook a reaper over to me with half HP
>he kills me
Does he do more damge to hog or something?
I don't feel reapers at all when im not playing him
>>336683327
Do you mean he doesn't have a weakness now? Y'know Roadhog, Junkrat, Tracer, Pharah, Lucio, Reinhardt, Hanzo, Widowmaker, Zenyatta, Soldier 76
Y'know, majority of the characters in the game having ways to instantly kill him? If you also think Torbjorn is good you're wrong. He's bottom tier next to Bastion.
>>336683035
People keep saying genji is bastions counter but add one melee defender and they are fucked. This fucker however just yanks you out of position and kills you every time. Road hog is bastions true hard counter. If I see one I change classes immediately.
>>336682310
There is skill involved
Their approach with the game is just less on mechanical skill, and a bit more on MOBA-style strategy and counterpicking.
Shows of pure mechanical skill have been all that FPS esports have ever been.
I'm interested in seeing how a more team-centric FPS game fares in the esport world.
>>336683373
Yeah but the other tanks also have methods of directly blocking damage their team would have taken. D.VA can reflect bullets, Big Dick Reinhardt has his shield, etc.
And Roadhog is the only one with no special type of health pool, he's just a big sack of 600 health. He fills ult really quick and doesn't migate or regen any damage.
>>336683493
Bigger hitbox = more pellets hitting.
>>336675690
How about giving him some fucking bullet spread. I shouldn't be able to hit the same spot with all 200 rounds from the other side of the map, but I can.
>>336683186
I feel you
In the middle of a team fight i will sometimes just stay still and take a swig to anoy the enemy team.
Top fun
>>336683565
GENJI CAN LITERALLY PRESS A SINGLE BUTTON
>>336682779
>Explosion is 3 maps wide even behind walls
>ult isn't even meant to kill people
>>336683493
His weapon bullets are ultra spread so it works much better on larger opponents and when shooting them up close, that's why he's basically an anti-tank, he can kill a Roadhog in a few shots at melee because he can't miss
if you see a reaper with Hog don't hook him, you can win if you can land a few of Mouse2 shots, but if he gets behind you or even in front of you at melee ur ded
>>336673967
>we want the Cubix audience
Post em
>>336678102
It takes like 3 rockets to kill him and he can kill you way faster.
>play of the game
>Hanzo shoots his ult through a wall at a moving payload and gets a triple kill, just staring at the wall the entire time
>it's a bastion/hanzo/pharah/junkrat play of the game
>>336683147
that's the main reason to use it.
it's one of the best zoning tools in the game.
Also great whenever you need to get the enemy team out of coordinaton since everyone will probably run in different directions.
POTG only takes into account the raw score gain of the play, it has nothing to do with actual skill. Blindly firing a rocket and getting three kills is more likely to be POTG than something actually impressive.
>>336683697
>even behind walls
But thats wrong
Hell, even a Mei wall will negate the damage
>>336683665
I don't shoot at him and let's see how good he reflects Reinhards hammer. These are not one on one match ups. However no matter the situation a road hog can always kill a bastion no matter your team comp, who is the hard counter?
>The engineers name is Torbjörn and not Þórbjörn
>>336683556
Torbjorn is pretty shit, but a good team covering a Bastion will destroy the other
there are certain spots in maps that will make you be vulnerable while shooting a Bastion, he can kill you in a second and he got armor+300 HP, if you have your team covering you are basically unkillable, your only counter is a well placed ult, but well, you can just unmount the sentry and get out of there
he's not that overpowered but in the hands of a good player it can destroy the enemy team without much effort
one of the problems is that he's so strong that you have to take more than one counter to try to kill him, you have to play around Bastion and how to kill him, there is no other hero in the game that produces this effect
>play of the game
>some guy uses Q and kills 3 people
>you literally see Mercy revive everyone a second later
>>336683886
i really don't enjoy playing lucio
>>336683697
You do know that all you have to do to avoid the damage is hide behind a wall right
>>336683931
>it's a junkrat play of the game
>there's no riptire involved
>>336683697
>even behind walls
except it doesn't. whenever you have more than 5 pixel between you and her mech you won't get hit.
>>336683035
got a 22 kill streak with him and unlocked tea bag spray
>>336680220
Okay, what about when he's got a reinhardt planted on top of him and a mercy buffing and healing only him?
>>336673967
You couldn't outplay a camper?
You are a sad pile of shit anon.
>>336673967
>potg
>enemy team's mercy resurrects 4 of their team members
>match winning ult
That was a fun occurence to see instead of some boring multikill. Even though we lost
>>336683971
I imagine Blizz will start tweaking how PotG works after release so it will lean a bit more favor to supports.
For now its functional and suffices and theyve got a fuckton more important things to focus on.
**ATTENTION**
I'm curious. What specifically could this game change to make it more based on skill and competition and class strength?
I feel like the game is more about casual fun, dying fast, spamming shots, etc. But I can't quite put into words what exact changes need to be made to fix it. What would you guys say can be changed to make it better?
Daily reminder for all you shitters that think Bastion is difficult to counter.
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1462549592681.webm
>>336684174
>do a big multikill with pharah ult in the last second of the game
>seeing the play of the game in my mind
>Helden Sterben Nicht :^)
>lose game
>the res is potg
>>336678102
>Playing Solider 76
>Looking over a ledge and notice bastion and Lucio below me
>Active Q, Kill Lucio before Bastion in turret form notices me, he is facing away from the ledge wall and using it as a corner
>Start shooting down at him, he has enough time to turn around and kill me before I've killed him
What they really need to do is nerf his fucking turn radius. It's bullshit that he has complete 360 degree movement with his gun.
>>336679238
Um. Shoot the wheel, Maybe?
He goes down like a bitch if you do it.
So far everyone's beef with Bastion and Junkrat is they suck too much at the game to deal with them.
>>336684327
>If your opponent is retarded he's easy to beat
wow
>>336684314
Better maps. That's basically the biggest flaw right now.
>>336681701
this
>it's my widowmaker potg when we defend and I kill 4 of the oppenents team in quick succession at the start of the match the second they leave the spawn room
>making fuck all of a difference for the rest of the game
The potg thing is lame
>>336684314
Because there is skill, competition, and class strength there.
Most of the people in this thread have been playing a few days and suddenly EVERYONE is an expert.
>>336684372
>What they really need to do is nerf his fucking turn radius.
No, just give him a slight windup.
>>336684164
Hanzo time
What happens if you kill Junkrat while he's controlling his ultimate?
>>336679818
A wheelchair that can transform into a Sentry gun and heal itself
>>336684559
>no achievement
Im dissapointed
>>336684656
He can still control it
>my last 2 games have been such total stomps there's no highlights of them
>want to play new chars
>nobody picks support
>stuck again with the same characters
>>336673967
Baby can't beat Bastion?
>>336684656
His ultimate keeps going
He probably won't even knows its dead untill his tire has exploded
>>336683147
Use it behind walls at chokepoints. Nobody will see it coming and everyone will die.
>>336684327
>retard that doesn't know how to breath picks bastion
>IT'S SO EASY TO COUNTER GUYS :^)
When did they buff Tracer? Early Open beta 2 days Tracer wasn't as strong as she is now. One of the updates between then and now buffed Tracer to godtier.
>>336684559
Lucio is the shit.
>>336684327
>play against retards
>win
wow anon you're so good
>pick an anime protag
>press e
>watch the metal can blow up by itself
heh.... stupid kid.....
>play Lucio
>singlehandedly push the fuckers off the point
>shield the whole team while we kill them
>hold the point until 100%
>play of the game is the enemy Widowmaker killing 2 fuckers
Is there any reason to play Mercy over Lucio?
>>336684716
Stop being a cuck and pick what you want to play.
I dont know why people always complain about this. Fucking Beta multiplayer betas.
>>336684890
Revive, increased damage ray. Better single target heals. Sometimes you just want to be lazy and just follow the tank...
How to beat Bastion:
>team stop fucking running at him from the same angle holy shit stay behind me and kill mercy that bitch op
The only time I've had trouble with him is when my team can't coordinate so they just take close range attackers and try rushing him. Fucking stop doing this. If you're going to play Pyrrah don't stand a mile down road shooting rockets into Rienharts shield fuck
>>336683236
Pretty much this. He has more hard counters than any other character but pubs play like lemmings so we get to hear people like OP whine about it eternally.
>>336684890
you get to not play an obnoxious character
>>336684890
>Is there any reason to play Mercy
Three words
HEROES
NEVER
DIE
>>336683375
The thing is it is easier to assist a Bastion than it is a Dva. Your team sees you setting up as bastion and groups around you. Meanwhile if I want to assault as Dva most of my team wants to run and hide
>>336683632
>Play Genji
>Run straight at bastion
>Press E
>Keikaku Doori
>>336684656
In comparison, if you kill his tire, it doesn't blow up. Even if you click as it dies, it doesn't blow up. Easily one of the worst changes they made. Stress Test 1, it exploded on death, but if you died, your tire just disappeared.
Then they reversed it. Tire just disappears if its HP drops to 0 and it keeps going if you die.
It's useless on many maps with long open spaces cause of that.
The games fine, but suffers from issues similiar to HOTS kinda. Its too expensive in my opinion and they probably wont allow mods
>>336685083
>mfw my team keep charging in one by one and dying to Bastion hail of bullets while actively refuse to stay behind my shield wall for cover and push their camp
I just wanted us to win
>>336683886
>1 HRs
Blizz devs too lazy to write in a fucking if-statement for 1
>scrubs still think bastion is OP
Play junkrat or pharah and watch him cry you fucking retards
this game is so piss easy and you still find ways to complain about balance
>>336683886
>>336684582
yes its there, but is it the emphasis? and the answer is no. the emphasis is on being a shitfest.
>>336684890
she's a better healer when your team cares about their health and know what a healer does.
so no, there isn't a reason to play her over Lucio
>>336684559
>hoops
thats a basketball ring, son
>>336685415
>die at awkward time
>respawn
>rest of team dies
>chill halfway between spawn and capture point waiting for team
>one teammate yells at me to go get the point
Still had like 3 minutes left in the match too.
>>336684890
If you have a strong tank line, Mercy is better.
>>336683886
Explosions.
>>336673967
seriously why the fuck each team can pick SAME unit? Every match is memestack mayhem. Its either DvA army or Bastion Army. Fucking suck, i lost interest with the game after 5 defeat with 3xDvA team.
this Beta is really BAD, and i am not sure they gonna have time to fix this near launch
>>336685631
Even worse when you are waiting and they just zoom straight past you to the point just to get Sniped
>>336684772
>Tracer
>needing a buff
She already has the most OP mobility of the game.
>>336685734
i went against 5 mccree last night it was infuriating
>>336685593
Play as mercy and you get to choose who dies on your team. I'm I a shitter for intentionally letting dva die since I want her back in her suit?
>>336685751
You read my post and got "she needs a buff" from that?
Please, re-read my post.
I specifically said she must have got a buff between early open beta and now.
>>336684164
Stop playing 1v3
>>336683886
I don't have mine, and I've been playing on 2 platforms (pc and xbone) but phar the Egypt beaner is my 1 by far, then chingchong Bow, Clint Eastwood, Edgelord, Shield guy that's totally not the LoL guy, urban DJ, and then chingchong sword.
>>336685815
>I'm I a shitter for intentionally letting dva die since I want her back in her suit?
not at all, the issue is you have a fucking dva on your team wasting a slot I would rate mei as more useful
>>336685501
Where did OP say bastion was overpowered.
All he said was that he gets POTG most of the time and it's never impressive to watch.
Bastion's not even the end of it, POTG frequently goes to Reaper just pressing Q as well, it should be based on more than just kills-to-damage-taken, a mercy who flies out of a huge death AoE then flies back in to revive, winning the game for the team, will never get potg in its current form, but it should most of the time.
>>336685845
I'm sorry I just woke up.
>>336673967
That's because everyone is shit at this game. Bastion is a noobslayer.
I WANT TO MARRY MERCY
>>336673967
>>Bastion camping in a corner with his minigun almost every time
That's how the hero was designed.
He has 3 abilities.
>shoot with his rifle (mediocre)
>shoot while deployed (very strong)
>self-repair
Many heroes are poorly designed gameplay wise.
>>336686019
Too bad, she's engaged to me.
>>336683886
R8 M8 pls no h8
>>336685713
>Those top 3
Bueno
Pharaoh is literally the only redeeming part of this whole fucking game. A 6v6 all Pharaohs would be almost like tribes.
So glad I bought Battleborn (trademark) and got the exclusive season pass for lots of great download be content. :D You guys should too!
