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>does insane damage from close to medium range
>has zero close range counters because of his flashbang
>tracer can't touch this shit
>reaper can't touch this shit
>soldier 76 can't touch this shit
>instakill sniper ult
is there a more cancerous character in the entire game?
>>336668923
Without his ult killing at range isn't a good option for him, he gets countered by snipers who oneshot him.
>>336668923
>the only Wild West character isn't even mexican
where's my representation Blizzard?
Even the fucking Canadians got a character.
>>336668980
>make character whose only counter in the game is widowmaker
bravo blizzard
>>336668923
Are you incapable of posting in the 30 other overwatch threads in the catalog
>>336669057
Reaper is mexican
>>336669060
this one is specifically about McCancer
>>336669086
no fuck that edgelord, why couldn't he be named after somehting cool like Gutierrez or Desperado?
Instead it's a fucking Irish name, McCree for fucks sake.
>>336669107
You're cancer if you think you crying deserves it's own thread.
>>336669187
thanks for the bump
>>336668923
>has zero close range counters because of his flashbang
What is Genji?
>implying McRee can touch the Chilly Chink
>>336669086
>The edge lord is Mexican
Just like real life then.
>>336669139
i dont know im just saying he's the mexican character.
>>336669236
Tbqh no one really can. She's a bit too strong in the current patch.
>>336669236
>flashbang her
>headshot her
McCree is the only character more cancerous than mei
I think that he is one of the weaker heroes desu
he nukes pretty much anybody with the combo yes, but he has 200 hp and is not very mobile and is just as easily killed as he kills others
>>336668923
One Shot. One Kill.
*Hooks away*
>>336669352
he's top tier mate
you're the first person ive seen call him weak
the only hero who is truly weak is D.VA
>>336669236
Why she has 275 HP I will never know.
Why do you guys even play this game.
>>336669341
>flashbang her
>kill her
You do realize this only works against people with very little map awareness?
>>336669365
I want to rest my dick on those lips
>>336669341
The range on the flashbang is pathetic. You have to be up close to him to get stunned. Meanwhile her frostthrower has like 30m range.
>>336669426
it works against anybody if you aren't a shitter
>>336669503
Good luck trying to sneak into flashbang range of a non-shitter
>>336669385
Seriously. Her Cannons deal shit damage, slow her down to a crawl (which is even worse because she's already such a huge,easy to hit target) and her ult is the easiest to avoid ever and nerfs her damage from pathetic to mercy tier.
>>336669248
> not maining reaper
Loser
>>336669365
What is an effective counter to Widowmaker other than another Widowmaker?
>>336669546
It's almost like she's not an assault class hero.
>dashes behind you
>blocks all your bullets with my ninjitsu
>unsheathes katana folded 2000000 times in futuristic ninja temples
>bisects you
>>336669543
>trying to sneak up on people as McCree
am i being baited?
>>336669576
The monkey.
>>336669576
Tracer
>>336669596
she used to be good now she's shit
give me one(1) reason to play her over any of the other tanks
>>336669576
literally the SOldier.
Sprint at her since she's looking through her scope all the time.
I run up headshot her and run away.
Soldier's unlimited sprint is a serious advantage for hit and run.
>>336669621
>blocks all your bullets with my ninjitsu
>mfw there's a genji near me thinking he's hot shit
>>336669637
you know his flash has like 5 meter range, right?
>presses q
>>336669752
WATCHING NI**AS DROP
>finally play this game
Is this it?..
>>336669685
Well, um, she's better than Winston. Does this count?
>>336669752
>soldiers ult is literally an aimbot
>widowmakers ult is literally a wallhack
>mccrees ult is literally a one shot aimbot
can anybody here actually defend this?
>>336669752
do you think he fucked tracer
>>336669549
>im not a psychopath, im a fully functioning psychopath
how the fuck can they design such a shitty character?
and he has literally 0 skill ceiling, his ultimate is just, click it and people around you die
>>336669784
those are all my mains
>>336669782
>better than winston
nah senpai winston does everything better than dva
he's a better tank
he's better at protecting the team with bubble shield
and his mobility allows him to jump around like a stickyjumping demoman
DVA is just a walking ult
>>336669796
> my skill
If you were actually skilled, you'd have nothing to worry about
>>336669784
>play an edgy cyber ninja
>hear "it's high noon"
>look for the bright red glowing man
>press E and watch him shoot himself
>play on the bare minimum toaster overwatch would even allow
>almost 0 pc fps mechanics off of the start
Who should I play, /v/?
>>336669784
>mfw all POTG's are just people pressing Q
>All major shifts in the balance of gameplay is determined by which team unleashes their ultimates in tandem
The balance is literal trash simply because of the ultimates.
>>336669867
Nah, bubble shield is shit. Defense matrix is the real Diva's ult.
>>336669943
>bubble shield is shit
DVA would be better if that defense matrix was on a longer cooldown but it's her only good move
>>336669932
Widowmaker, the tunnel vision renders less.
>>336669932
Mei for W+M1.
Lucio for just W.
>>336669881
f-fuck you
>>336669784
>>336669752
I honestly don't get why people cry about these. When they ult, a really loud voice line plays for all players. All you have to do is break line of sight, and you're 100% safe.
Bastion
*GOES INTO CORNER*
*TURNS IN A TURRENT*
*HOLD DOWN RIGHT CLICK AND DECIMATE ENEMY TEAM WITH NO EFFORT*
FUCK OFF FAGGOTS
>>336669941
organized play and ranked is going to be so cancerous
just image all of the unstoppable ultimate wombo combos
>>336669736
>freezing a Genji and headshotting him with an icicle
Fuck off weebs.
>>336670000
bubble shield is actaully shit, it breaks far too quickly.
Winston is not really good, his damage is a fucking joke, yes I get that hes a tank but it takes 3 magazines to kill another tank
>>336670065
Even in pub that shit is cancerous it's literally a button for shit players to get free kills. There's nothing more to it.
>>336670063
i only play bastion when the enemy team has a rheinhardt
rheinhardts shield is OP, bastion is the only one with enough DPS to break it
>>336670063
why are you so bad dude :^)
just toss a nade my way dude
afraid of a box with bullets? :^^^^)
>>336670103
You're realizing Mei is just another anime character, right?
>>336669418
F U N
U
N
>>336670149
nigga they're all anime bullshit
>>336670052
but dude they have to smoke weed and listen to dumbstep and 420 yolo get high smoke weed XDD
>>336670128
Not to mention his Ultimate is free ultimates for the enemy team because he can't kill shit with it.
>>336670063
1 widowmaker completely counters bastion, literal target practice
>>336670128
Winston really is a counter pick, when you need your damage to go through the enemy shields.
>>336669057
Fucking cowboys dont come from Mexishit fucking beaner. Is McCree the only American in the cast for this game?
WHATS THE TIER LIST
>>336670052
Yeah, because the good Soldier76/Mccree just pop their ulti raw?
Soldier76 pops it when you are escoting a payload or captuaring a point, at which point he can kill you before you can break los
>>336670218
>cowboys
>not form Mexico
>name is literally Vaquero (cow boy)
>all the cowboy shit in movies is base doff Spanish
>bucaroo is literally vaquero
>>336669407
THICCC
>people complaining about bastion
just snipe him with widowmaker or hanzo what the fuck guys
pic unrelated
>>336670135
this is the biggest difference in ranked games and pubs, in ranked people save the ultis when needed to defend or push a objective and not to get random kills that mean nothing in the end.
>>336669058
>Widowmaker is the only sniper class
>>336669738
You know Mei needs to get into flashbang range to slow him, right? Her only outplay potential is the LShift the flashbang.... good luck with that lul
>>336670052
Good fucking luck getting out of a 100% stick aimbot or a teamwide wallhack. Escaping by LoS break applies only to HIGH NOON since it's the only thing with a windup.
>>336669752
>See 4 people down a wide hall
>Press q
>get off one shot and then a Widowmaker shoots me in the head
>>336669796
>his ultimate is just, click it and people around you die
Just like half the cast then.
There are way too many fucking Overwatch threads. Might as well not go on /v/ until the Open Beta session ends because holy shit it's flooded and it has to be partially shills.
>>336670293
if you get sniped by hanzo you're pretty bad desu
those arrows are easy to juke
>>336669407
250
>>336670218
>>336670275
>burger history :DDDDD
>>336669236
I love having her on my team cause it feels like I'm playing with beemo
>mfw people think Mei is a "defense" character
>she's actually best used on offense because she can easily deal with Bastion / Turrets / Symmetra lasers / snipers / flanking lone wolves
>>336670063
Fucking hell man, I think Bastion is balanced but he NEEDS to be countered. If for some reason you get stuck playing the support or tank and your sniper is shit you HAVE to switch and be without a healer or tank for a bit, and that is kinda bullshit.
>mfw a reaper shitter tries his DIE DIE DIE shit near me
>sand the shit out of him and instantly shred him with my right click
>>336669385
zenyatta says hi
>>336670237
Every clan game will include at least one
Mercy
Pharah
Reinhart
Roadhog
Im loving all the people complaining about ine hit kill attacks and all that shit. How have you people not realised yet that you dont actually need skills for this damn game?
>>336670329
what other games are there to talk about if at all anon?
Not much until E3
>>336670270
TFW playing genji
TFW soldier uses ulti
TFW he cant stop shooting me while I reflect the damage back and kill him.
Hilarious
>>336668923
Didn't someone get murdered by an entire team of High Noon Man yesterday?
Because if someone's got a webm of that game, I want to see it
>>336669546
She's meant for harassment
>play Mercy
>heal a little then get picked off by literally any character who can deal damage
innovative gameplay Blizzard
>>336670270
>when you are escoting a payload
>you can't break los
>>336669784
>they made a character out of lagstepping
>>336670449
Zenyatta has the highest damage of all support, his discord orb and attack can kill a tank even really quick. Also charged blasts oneshot most anything.
His ultimate is fantastic for pushing into a point as well.
>>336670306
Except that's wrong.
Only the absolutely braindead Mei players think they need to be at point blank range to freeze people. Her gun actually has ridiculous range for the kind of weapon it is.
>>336669236
It's Chunky Chilly Chink nigga
>>336669621
>u see him
>he reflects the flashbang
>neither of you can attack now since your stunned and hes still reflecting
>it gets kinda awkward
>>336670340
Not if it's a good Hanzo that knows to aim ahead of a moving target.
>>336668923
>tfw using pocketsand on Tracer before she teleports
feels so good killing waifufags
JUSTICE RAINS FROM A--- UGHHHHH
I GOT YOU IN MY SI--- UHHHH
ITS HIGH NO---- AAAAAA
DIE DI--- UHH
In light of the above, who has the best / most effective ultimate? Inb4 Mercy.
>>336670465
It doesn't require any skills, if the ultimates didn't exist, then maybe, though not much
>>336670586
>Her gun actually has ridiculous range for the kind of weapon it is.
The range is about the same as a flashbang, bud.
>>336670275
>vaquero (cowboy)
wow guys, this beaner sure proved to us that his country invented cowboys wowee! Go fuck off in your indigenous tribe,
>>336670449
if he had more health he'd be good
he shits out damage he just dies too quickly
>>336670329
It's actually fun as fuck, I downloaded it thinking I'd only play for 2 hours max because TF2 clone, but it ended up being TF2+fun
>>336670440
>be in kings row
>2 genjis on my team
>am stuck as mercy
>neither of them can kill a bastion sitting on our payload
>enemy team doesnt even have a single shield
>cant switch to genji to take him out myself
it's like these people dont know what their E even does. It's literally impossible for bastion to not take damage from his own bullets and even if he stops fast enough to not die he is easily disposed of with a shuriken dash combo now.
Heck you can even strafe jump into their line of fire with your activated E when they shoot at your teammate.
>>336670631
JUST-
>>336670631
Lucio.
>Be Mercy
>Team never helps me when I'm being flanked by Tracer or Reaper
>Spend all game dying
>Watching a killcam
>My teammate sees me dying, but literally runs away instead of helping
Then I spent the next 2 rounds never healing him and he bitches about it on mic.
Get fucked.
>>336670671
Nigger are you bating right now?
>>336669932
torbjorn, just throw a turret down in a corner or some shit
>>336670191
He's supposed to wreck shit with his ultimate while your team picks off the faggots distracted by you
>>336670610
Would his dash still work?
>>336670668
Clearly you haven't a clue about what you're talking. I won't be arguing with you right now. When you'll play the game some more you'll realize that she can freeze you from outside your flashbang range.
>>336670631
You wanted to capture the point huh?
>main zenyatta because he's the funnest
>mfw all the tears in-game and on /v/ for """maining""" in a team-based game
>>336670293
the only redeemign thing about hanzo is his ult widow is better in everxything else
that said hanzo is acctualy somewhat hard to play compared to half of the cast
>mfw I see a Hanzo on my team
What a useless and boring character. It's always shitters that pick him too, drags the whole team down.
When Hanzo is on the enemy team I think "free kills for me". Bowfags are the worst, I swear.
His ult is trash too.
>>336670495
Use your dashes, hope your team is competent enough to protect you
>>336670750
Why the fuck do people do this
>healing/buffing as usual
>enemy teleports behind me
>stop buffing so teammate notices
>teammate still runs away
>dies
>teammate dies two seconds later
Fuck off, people.
>>336670830
>shoot it once with any gun
>blow it up before it can do anything
his ult only kills idiots
>>336668923
>implying his stun doesn't have a 10 seconds cd and the shortest range of all abilities
>implying he isn't awesome at long range too
>>336670889
WAGATEKIOKURAU
>>336670889
You're not very good at vidya
>>336670889
His ult literally kills through walls, it can be pretty fucking ridiculous if you get someone with a brain playing him.
>ctrl f "Zarya"
>0 found
>>336670796
i think so but it would kill mccree
>>336671001
ugly
disgusting
hideous gun
stupid everything
>>336670889
I feel the same way except with D-VA
>She's not tanky enough to heal slut with
>She doesn't do enough DPS to scare people
>Her ultimate handicaps her for a bit
>>336671001
she's not fun to play or play against
i just avoid her in general
Zenyata or Lucio?
Let me tell you why Overwatch sucks. Listen carefully.
The balance is terrible.
Why? Because if you notice that 1 game you are winning is a literal pub stop they never push the payload or cap the point tier of winning, While another game you are losing is literally stuck being spawn camped or dying over and over tier of fail.
Is it the players? Do they just suck? No, the game is just so imbalanced because the entire game is based off who wins at the very first exchanges. Because charging your Ults is based off DOING DAMAGE / HEALING, meaning if the enemy team is just pub stomping you over and over, they have way more ults, and can just instantly dispose of full teams consecutively.
I've had many, MANY games where we had them so buried they couldn't even push out their spawn, and other games where i was being spawn raped.
The game is unbalanced garbage. Any good competent 6 anons who play together could literally win every game over and over effortlessly because most blizzard fans are so braindead even the most simplest mechanics of Overwatch is hard to these people. You only need to see the 10000x spammed "Bastion/Widowmaker is OP!" threads on their forums to see why this game is shit.
>>336671001
I have actually seen very few people play her since I started the early access to today. Must not be that fun of a class. The other tanks are infinitely better than her anyway.
>>336669341
>get flash banged
>freeze myself instantly
Your move fuckboi
>>336670696
>see genji
>shoot 2 bullets at him
>wait the flurry of slashes to end
>proceed to shoot again
he ain't no threat to a decent bastion
>>336670889
Occasionally you get the robot Hanzo that nails every single shot and onehits most of your team since his charged shots deal insane damage
But usually they suck
>>336668923
The only reason why characters like revolver-talksalot and Tracer come off as being SO good is because people don't play as a team. You gave to pick characters based on assholes like him sometimes if you want to win. It takes the effort of everyone involved.
>>336671080
This
you can win every game if you party up with a few friends
>>336671080
There's something weird about Overwatches matchmaking. I've NEVER had a fair game where I felt like I was playing against equally skilled opponets. It's either a complete stomp, or a complete blowout.
My first 10 games we stomped them, and from there on I had a literal 18 game losing streak of blowout after blowout after blowout.
I've never played a game with matchmaking this bad.
>>336670052
>die
>respawn
>coming out of spawn room
>hear "ASHITTE CHING CHONG BAKA DESU" from other side of the map
>tfw die anyway because dragons go through a gorrilion walls and take a fuckton of health on hit
Fuck Hanzo
>>336671091
>The other tanks are infinitely better than her anyway.
Nope, she's one of the best tank, if not the best.
>>336671001
>looks like shit
>plays like horse walking with one leg
No wonder.
>>336671138
>decent bastion
Nice try.
>>336671080
>game is unbalanced because 6 random pub shitters with 20 hours playtime between them can't coordinate
There's no point in talking about balance when your experience is shitter pub matches, unless it's a really blatant case of a hero having over the top numbers
>>336670914
>hope your team is competent enough to protect you
>>336671246
But every game is a pub match. 6 man pre-mades get matched against 6 man pubs.
The matchmaking is unbalanced from the getgo
>>336671091
Fuck no its just shitters being shitters like usual.
D.Va is by far the worst tank and theres an arguement to be made that shes the worst hero in the entire game. I imagine that will be fixed by either giving her more health or upping her damage.
Zarya is almost completely team dependent. Thats as simple as it gets, her damage is all about what people with the shield do and if its "Run away" then her damage output is fucked. Shes can melt the fuck out of most enemies and her Ult is pure synergy with any other high damage output Ult like Rip Tire or Justice Rains.
What I have noticed is that theres a strange connection between people tryharding as fuck in casual games and the stupid Jap Characters. Genji seems custom made for faggots thinking there hot shit.
>Attacking
>Defenders try Bastion + Reinhardt, get fukt
>Defending
>Me and friend do Bastion + Reinhardt and fuck their team up
>tfw
>>336670816
I main Mei, bruh. Like I said, she barely outranges it and he can just tumble into you and fuck you up.
A good McCree is a hard counter to Mei.
>>336671318
Well the matchmaking being unbalanced is a different thing than the actual game being unbalanced
>>336671318
Premades always gets matched against premades
>>336670631
NERF THIS
*kills everyone at objective + 3 mile radius of ult*
>>336671367
It's a little bit of both
>>336671385
this isn't true, i play with randoms and every other game i get matched versus premades and get completely stomped
>>336671321
>Worst Hero
>Not Symmetra
>>336670307
>S76's ult apparently goes through walls
fuck, maybe it does need a nerf
>>336671321
>Genji seems custom made for faggots thinking there hot shit.
I love it because he's such an easy snack for my Mei
>goes full nothin personnel charge
>freeze his ass and icicle his face
>>336671197
>find out that Zarya is fucking powerful and fun
>her looks are shit so it's offputting for people to play her
>get to keep pubstomping with her since no soul will even realize and wine about her being OP since she goes mostly unplayed
>>336671181
>you can win every game if you party up with a few friends
Doesn't it put you in queues against other groups?
>>336671001
>Zarya
>Passive is gain damage from shields
>Shield duration is less than 2 seconds making it basically useless
>Two of her abilities are these dogshit shields
>Main weapons isnt fun to shoot, isnt good, and is way too hard to improve
>job done 1000 times better with other characters
>>336671001
Grenades at 100 energy fuck shit up. I love playing as her when a Torbjorn is on the other team for that free charge. And saving a Mercy with a projected barrier (turn HP display on in her options) has won me a few fights.
Too bad she's slow as balls and does shit all damage without charge.
>>336671436
POO
Its fairly easy to be gud with Eastwood but only because how slow the charater movement is in the game.
Even if you suck and play on keyboard arrows instead with mouse half of the roster is THICC so you can score easy hits and murderfuck them.
>>336670621
Not if he's shooting at a functioning human being with below average to average reflexes
>>336671091
She is just harder to play effectively than the other tanks and actually needs her team to not be retarded.
She's not a classic tank, like Rein, but she's by no means a bad hero.
People playing her, especially those that are started with OBT, might be completely unaware of her main mechanic - energy.
Her gun does more damage the more damage you block with your shields. So she needs someone else to throw her shield on. And that someone else has to jump into the line of enemy fire to buff her.
At max energy her gun melts absolutely everything and it's hitscan, so there's no way to dodge it other than hiding behind a corner.
>>336671138
>throw stars at him until he unleashes a bigger flurry
>press E
>alternatively
>jump into bullet stream with E active
>receive kill
a decent bastion is no match for an ok genji.
>>336671424
How do you know it's premades? Is there an indicator somewhere?
>>336671439
IT WHAT
Shame, I love Cowboys and western theme stuff. He's my favorite hero design wise, but I always play supports
>>336671080
>>336671187
The game just hit open beta, theres a lot of children anon, or did you forget videogames are made for children.
The other issue is everyone fucking sucks because the game has barely been out long enough for people to know what to do
does defense on this map for assault seem broken as fuck? it just seems like an easy meat grinder map for defense. i could never win on an attack
>>336668923
Pick Genji
Counter his ultimate
Oneshot him instead
there you go friend
>>336671396
>back off from the blast radius
>think alright I'm out of the objective square I should be safe now
>ded
Fucking bitch.
>>336671436
Someones never played Sym on Voskaya Defense. I've gotten multiple POTG with poo int he loo simply by arranging mini sentries on bridge and truck. Makes them really hard to hit if your team is attacking at the sametime, and I am there shitting out my M1 beam of faggotry.,
>>336671436
symmetras teleporter really helps on defense
the run from spawn to objective is way too long in this fucking game
>>336671262
Playing as Best Girl truly is suffering.
On the other hand, if your team refuses to help, usually I just fly around doing cool drops
>>336671527
well according to the faggot I quoted, breaking LoS doesn't work. So I guess it goes through walls or something.
I thought it didn't, but hey, what do I know.
>>336671447
>her looks are shit so it's offputting for people to play her
Cool meme
>>336671597
>genji
>killing anything ever
HARHARHAR
>>336671582
Yep. It inherited that from Egypt map in TF2.
>>336671582
>go that map on attack
>win in less than a minute
lol
>on defense
>playing zen
>at last payload push
>team low so I ult
>IT'S HIGH
>uh oh
>NOOOOOON
>figure fuck it let's see if this works
>park ulted Zen right in front of NOON o'clock
>I tank all his shots
>he barrel rolls into a bullet and dies
We lost that round.
the two point cap mode is broken because the run from spawn point to cap point is so fucking long that the enemy team can capture point A in the time it takes you to run from your spawn point to point A
anyone else feel like defenders should spawn closer to objectives in 2 cap?
>>336671656
You realize that every time you make a "X hero is bad" you're just admitting you suck at playing them, right?
>win the game with roadhog hitting 20 hooks
>some shitty bastion on the enemy team gets 8 commends
WHAT THE FUCK
>>336671582
The other way around. Attackers win a lot more in ow
>>336671187
Its almost as they made a reset to everyone stats and levels before they started the open beta....
oh wait they exactly did that, ofc its fucking unbalanced on the first day of the beta where everyone stats are fresh but you have people who played for 6 months closed beta stomping new players.
>>336671496
nah, you need to play more
>>336671656
Genji counters pretty much anything with a gun. Bastion and McCree especially. He's one of the stronger heroes.
>be Blizzard
>looking at TF2 for ideas to rip off
>see the huntsman
>decide to add it to overwatch
>>336671606
>Rely on enemy walking into your turrets repeatedly to play Symmetra
This only worked during the early days of TF2 and it will be the same here once people stop being retarded.
>>336671753
18 in a row though? ive never seen matchmaking like that
>>336671762
ive been playing closed beta since january friend. Bastion is a noob killer, nothing more.
>>336671753
hidden mmr wasnt wiped
>>336671809
>tf2 invented bows
Who /Winston/ Here?
>high moon play of the game
>junkrat wheel plyo f the game
>soldier autoaim play of the game
>hanzo dragon play of the game
>bastion in tank mode play of the game
>>336671746
The game is filled with shitters right now.
I was in a 6-man group last night and had a fucking blast most of the people also in 6-mans actually seemed to have a good grasp of the game and wanted to have fun.
Then we got to KOTH and everything shat itself with a Bastion sitting with a Rein shield and a D.Va to block in-coming shots. All I could do was try my best to Junkrat as much as I could.
KOTH really does bring out the worst in both the heroes and the players. Its fucking terrible.
>>336671767
Come back when your rank will be higher and you'll stop being matched with people who don't stop firering when they hear and see Genji's E being used.
>>336671838
You're a shitter
>>336670275
>>336670671
>This triggers the burger
>>336671614
Coupled with the long pre and post game screens it often makes the game feel like a slog
At least put movement speed boosters at the base exits of maps like that
>>336671881
>>junkrat wheel plyo f the game
How mad were you while typing this?
>>336671881
>bastion in tank mode play of the game
Better than Bastion in turrent mode POTG.
>>336669057
nobody gives a shit about mexicans
Who /NubianQueen/ here?
>>336671897
nice argument
>thinks bastion is anything other than a low mmr pubstomper
>calls others shitter
>>336671835
ha ha ha ha oh God no. Are you honestly trying to tell me that I could not go into a TF2 pub right now and murder most of the team with a normal Sentry nest?
People really seem to over-estimate the average solo queue pub player.
>Be Mercy
>Can't help but notice how fucking shit my team is
>Pharahs sitting in corners firing rockets at nothing
>Tracers who charge straight into the frontline and insta-gibbed
>Reinhardts who go solo and end up doing nothing
Christ, how can people be so bad? Just pick Soldier76 or something if you're sub-80 IQ.
>>336671973
WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIEET
>>336671947
The fuck is a turrent mode?
>playing mei
>ult 5 enemies who get bodied by team
>enemy mercy ults
>5 enemies get resurrected into my still-going ult and get bodied again
>mercy POTG
REEEEEE
>>336671943
devestated
>>336671881
Hey fuck you buddy I got a perfectly synergized Wheel Team Wipe last night with a Mei Ult. I fucking deserved that POTG.
>>336671897
m8, you're not in a position to complain about others' rank if you still think Bastion is a strong character.
>>336671396
>Literally blocked by 1-inch wide poles
>>336672047
bastion is strongagainst rheinhardt
>>336669385
D.VA backed up by Mercy is a rape machine.
>>336671720
>not just shooting him in the head while he's stationary and killing him in a single hit
You're a bad Zenyatta
>>336671973
Pharah and mercy combos are probably the only thing i like in this game.
I wish the maps were more complex, the flanking possibilities are insane.
>>336672037
yooo you can res more than one person with mercy ult?
>>336671080
>a competent team could stomp randoms in public
Was there ever a team based multiplayer game where this didn't happen?
The only problem with Overwatch is it expect too much from the players from the beginning. There is 21 different characters. Do someone seriously believe even half of the players ever did the tutorial? Or tried the characters at least on the practice range? Or ever read the skills? Or actually play the game as a team and not just picking a symphatetic face and just run and gun with it?
Even most of the character time posts here have most of the players playing muh waifu/husbando and barely anything else.
>>336672114
Yes
>>336671897
Fuck me, people in comp games still get killed by Genji Reflect.
Its insanely hard to stop yourself from firing on something due to simple reactions. You can wave your cock about all you like but theres fucking loads of evidence of high level play to completely counter your stupid ego shit.
>>336672081
DVA still doesn't do enough damage for anyone to care
roadkill backed up by mercy shits out way more damage
>jump with pharrah
>fuck him up
Not hard
>>336672143
o-oh
I feel like I've been wasting it
>>336671767
That's a bit extreme.
I feel like his actual stars could use a bit faster travel speed, then he'd be a really solid pick. His melee is strong, his E is nuts if you use it right, his dash is horrifying to the right people, but it's hard to land those stars since they seem to travel so slow.
>all these shitters saying D.Va is bad because they get shat on when trying to use her as a reinhardt clone
>saying she's "the least tanky" as if 400 fucking armour health isn't relevant
>saying she can't protect her team when she has an ability that can eat literally anything
>>336672037
's'what you get for not playing Best Girl
>>336672081
Soldier too
>>336672183
>Jumping against hitscan character
DO YOU FUCKING PLAY ON CONSOLES OR WHAT
JESUS K REIST
>>336670631
Zarya. Basically a guaranteed multi-kill everytime.
>>336671740
To be fair, some heroes, like Dva and Zenyatta, have been nerfed to shit and are pretty underwhelming in the current meta.
But then again, that guy is a retard because Genji still excels at picking off squishies, staying highly mobile, and harassing the enemy.
>>336670889
>It's a Hanzo presses Q and gets PotG match
>>336672254
> implying I jump when he shouts high noon
Does your mom help you play?
>>336672238
Thats what the right click is for. Get in as close as possible, and right click heads, it murders the fuck out of tanks.
Time to make a tier list.
>Top 5 in no order
Pharah
Tracer
Junkrat
Zenyatta
Mccree
>Worst 4 in no order
symmetra (worst character in the game currently)
hanzo (ult underwhelming, widowmaker does his job better)
d. va
winston
>>336672040
>mei locked down a whole team
>but i deserved that potg!
Her ult keeps them there for like a fucking month, you could have probably killed everyone with regular bombs
>>336671439
Yeah, because he's definitely going to trigger it when just the tip of of your toe is peeking around the corner.
>>336672337
What? I doesnt matter when you jump, if you jump against a hitscan even paralyzed people can hit you because of the predictable trajectory.
>>336672337
no but my wife's son is giving me advice
>>336672340
that's the worst top5 ive ever seen
>>336672238
Genji's strength is that he's a jack of all trades. Good long-range damage, good accuracy, good tank busting with right-click, a gapcloser/movement skill, and and E that makes him both very tanky and lets him hard-counter a bunch of ultimates. If you hear high noon and McCree is in line of sight, he can either choose not to shoot or get his own bullet parried back at him.
>>336671626
Breaking LoS doesn't work because it's instant you fucking autist, not it literally shoots through walls.
What I have noticed about this thread is that for every post saying this is a bit shit theres a response with "Just do this hurr" which seems to expect every encounter to be a duel.
Sure you can float out with a Pharah to shoot at a McCree but that enemy team Widow is going to enjoy using you as target practice.
>>336670218
Roadhog is the quintessential american.
>>336672428
who is better? bastion and the dwarf are for 12 iq pubs, soldier is b+ tier at best
>/v/ can't even attack the crab's weak point for massive damage
>>336671881
>Shitter playing bastion goes sentry then tank and gets about three people
>When the game ends he just spams play of the game
>A reinhardt gets it instead because he charged a Mcree going HIGH NOON right off the edge
>Bastion just starts spamming f then rage quits.
I'm really curious how they made the game pick which play was good, because it seems like a utter crapshoot to me.
>>336672101
>>team low so I ult
>>THEN McCree ults
I know English isn't half this board's first language but there's still an order of dialogue present.
>>336672219
Don't worry anon, that's how we learnif your team's mostly shit, you might only want to res the one good one anyway
>>336672158
>Its insanely hard to stop yourself from firing on something due to simple reactions.
I fucking do it everytime, there's nothing hard about it
>>336672247
She's very weak, has a huge head hitbox, her ultimate is probably one of the worst, and she can only protect her team once in a blue moon.
The argument for her being under-powered isn't as flimsy as you think.
>soldier has the best non ult group heal in the game
how did this pass the concept phase?
>>336672340
>symmetra
Teleporter makes games, and her turrets around a tight corner can fuck someone's day hard.
>hanzo
If can aim well, you can kill practically anyone on their team in 1-2 shots.
>>336672502
Roadhog is Australian however, just like Junkrat
>>336671626
Did you miss the whole part about windup? It's a fucking instant trigger, you don't have the time to run.
>>336672183
if you play on console maybe
le high noon man rapes pharrah
This game is just "good."
It's not amazing, stay-up-all-night type of a game. Not the type I can see myself playing for thousands of hours like other multiplayer shooters.
>>336668923
please leave reddit and take your game with you.
>>336672510
>/v/ can't even realize a good bastion will be in a corner with a reinfag's shield in front of him
>>336672532
I want to__beMercy.
>>336671447
Love playing Zarya, but I'll admit I hate her design. That's why I'm blowing all my coins on that sweet Russian get-up asap.
>>336669058
Roadhog has annihilated me everytime
>>336672541
Of those the head hitbox is the only vaguely correct one.
Her ultimate is incredibly useful as it completely forces the enemy team off the objective, even if they aren't retarded enough to get killed by it. The problem with it is the retardedly long charge time more than anything else.
i can't make the dorf work for me
he's like the TF2 engineer only shitty
>play Junkrat
>flying around the battlefield killing tracers and McCree's like they are nothing
>put traps in chokepoints where enemies can barely see them
>hit every single RIP-Tire
>fucking PoTG is a hanzo pressing Q
>>336672667
>being in hook range as sniper
the fuck are you doing, nigger?
>>336672534
Good for you billy big balls but evidence from the introduction of the character that suggests its the completely opposite for most of the rest playing.
The samething goes for don't shoot Zarya shields hurr, thinking its a complete fucking one way street. Sure don't shoot the Genji but its not like the Genji is going to be standing about doing fucking nothing, if you hold fire he will kill you, you open fire he hits E.
"Then I stop firing and pull out my massive super cannon gun because I'm the best and then I fly into space and win everything ever look how amazing I am going against evidence backed knowledge."
Fuck you can even preemptively use Reflect to stop someone firing, that allows others on the team to attack.
>>336672729
The hook range is really big
>>336672712
Pretty much yeah.
IT'S HIGH NO- AUGH
DIE DIE D- YARGH
I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SI- BLERGH
>>336672729
>tfw just started watching this amazing cartoon
>>336672712
Take Bastion istead if you want a "turret" to defend
>>336672624
Don't we all, anon
>>336672883
The best if obviously JUSTICE RAINS FROM BLERUG because you get to see the cunt tumble out of the sky.
>>336672850
No, it's really not. 20 yards at best.
>>336672534
Done right and you literally die in less time than it is physically possible to react. If you stopped firing in time the genji was bad, simple as that.
>>336672712
He's really underwhelming. Probably the worst defense hero.
>>336672953
source?
>>336672968
i like playing as Phara and honestly never been shot down
either i fight against shitters who never look UP or i activate my ulti in good areas
who else plays phara because it's the closes to TF2 Soldier?
>>336668923
>tracer can't touch this shit
just dodge him and deny health packs
not to mention that you shouldn't be fighting fights you can't win as tracer
Tracer is a tank, she's supposed to hold the attention of a couple opposing heroes at the same time.
>>336669139
Did you read his post? Classic mexican.
>>336673041
pharah is like the TF2 soldier only way more fucking OP because she gets 6 rockets and doesn't have to hurt herself to jump high into the air
This is obvious marketing. Every character is getting their "x character is op" thread. It's pretty clever but really obvious at this point.
>>336668923
>no mobility options to outflank with
>slow as shit
>no utility
>no sustain
>fragile
>clunky as fuck ult that often does nothing
>terrible vs fortified locations
>weak defensively
>has nothing to deal with all the anti-ranged shit in the game
>>336673041
Its stupidly effective when you use it to surprise people but just flying up in the open and the team is slightly spread out is going to get most Pharah's killed. So a little of A and a little of B.
I have never once seen a Pharah actively aim rockets at anyone, they just shoot the ground because its easier and just as effective. So I would not say the Soldier comparison is all that strong.
>>336673078
>Tracer is a tank
>playing soldier 76
>walking from spawn to the point
>flashbang
>shot in the back
>dead
Can they at least make it that damage breaks the stun?
>>336672815
>The samething goes for don't shoot Zarya shields hurr
Not it doesn't, Zarya's shield only need to take little damage to be useful while shooting Genji reflect with a couple of bullets usually does nothing and then you can just stop immediatly after. It's only really dangerous for people with shotguns who can one shot themselves.
you're a shitter with no reflex man, just face it.
>>336673036
personalami
>tfw Tarakanovich draws Mercy
>it's got fucking Reaper in it and it's average at best
>>336671001
/v/ is full of shitters, you really think most people here have good enough gamesense to play her?
She's fucking great though saving teammates lives, landing clutch ults, and forcing the enemy to give you charge by pressuring them mercilessly is just too fun.
>>336673041
If you've just started playing in OBT and never got CBT invite and haven't participated in beta weekends you will be matched with the absolute novices, same as you.
But unlike you they might not have any experience with competitive FPS at all, and are just playing this because they're Blizzard fanboys.
>>336673183
>>walking
you gotta sprint
it never runs out
>>336673149
>they just shoot the ground
thats what the majority of tf2 soldiers do..
>Be roadhog
>Hook reinhardt out of 5 people
>He charges you through the moon and does 400 damage
>>336672987
>yards
kek
>>336673095
though she also doesn't have the health advantage and you fall way slower than in TF2
On topic:
i don't think this game needs to be balanced, TF2 was never really balanced.
On the other hand in Overwatch you have multiple characters filling the same role, so within that role they should be balanced.
so i am unsure wether or not the game should be balanced or not.
But getting 1 hit killed so much from widowmakers and hanzos is really not fun, is it just really easy to hit people as those characters ? i never had this problem in TF2.
>It's a Lucio POTG where he heals the whole team while shooting his gun a few times episode
>>336673261
Problem Anon?
>>336673181
You can't ignore Tracer, because otherwise you die, slowly.
You have fight a Tracer if she's going after you.
You can't touch her, because she has *teleports behind you* and "DO YOU EVER GET THAT FEELING OF DEJA VU?", so she just keeps dancing around you, healing constantly and hitting you until you drop, it's quite degenerate.
>>336673149
Also, not many people realize you DON'T have to jump to ult. You can ult at a chokepoint from the ground just as effectively, without making yourself an easy target for any and all long range weapons on the enemy team.
>>336673181
I think the anon means that shes a better staller than any other hero in the game, getting onto and off of a payload or capture point in Overtime and keeping it in constant contention so the rest of the team can either get there or respawn. A good Tracer is very fucking hard to kill.
>>336673272
you haven't played TF2 if you weren't getting one shot by snipers
though widowmaker certainly has the potential to be more cancerous than the TF2 sniper due to her built in wallhacks and fast charge time
>Be Mercy
>Heal someone
>They never bother to protect me even as I'm screaming on the mic for help
What's the point?
>>336673240
I meant sprinting. He was hiding, waiting for me and got me at close range
>>336673349
the problem with healing is you can't tell who's healing you, and all the flashy shit you see on your screen makes it really hard to see when your medic is in trouble
>>336673349
i have this problem too with mercy whenever i play her the enemy team just fucking wrecks me its like my team doesnt try to protect me
when i play medic in TF2 it feels like my team actively makes an attempt to protect me but in overwatch...not really
>>336671436
She is literally one of the strongest heroes in the game and if you can't see why you're terrible.
>>336673386
>the problem with healing is you can't tell who's healing you
Yes you can. There's a name and portrait that shows up in the middle lower part of your screen when you're being healed. Pay more attention Anon.
>>336673342
i played a ton of TF2 back in 08/09 even competetivly.
and recently before overwatch beta just to get into the feel.
it was never this bad in TF2.
and yea i guess it might be the charge time that needs a nerf.
>>336673349
>playing egyptian soldier queen
>mfw dive bombing mercy all day while enemies are oblivious to me just 2 hitting her all day every day
>>336670631
>In light of the above, who has the best / most effective ultimate? Inb4 Mercy.
Mei, Zarya, Tracer, Widowmaker, Reinhardt, Mercy, Zenyatta.
tfw people dont realize d.va is actually amazing.
>It's a thread on /v/ that starts with someone whining about a skill based game which apparently has a slightly OP feature
>/v/ starts posting like they are all pro's at the game
/v/ when will you learn that you're terrible at video games?
>>336673192
Thats not the point I was making with the Zarya comparison and you fucking know you spastic fuck. I have fuck all to prove but I have actual footage of high level players who are not anon on an image board getting baited and killed by Genji reflects.
I look forward to seeing your comp debut anon. I wish you all the best.
>>336673386
you get the name and healthbar of the mercy.
you can tell if shes being attacked.
>>336673415
she's good but not "strongest in the game" tier
>>336673432
>it was never this bad
then you obviously never played2fort
>>336673256
>Be Roadhog
>somehow get behind reinhardt shielding his team
>he instantly drops the shield to hammer me rather than let his team deal with me
>everyone getting shot on both sides
>>336673386
>the problem with healing is you can't tell who's healing you
are you blind
>>336668923
>instakill sniper ult
>hear high noon
>get behind cover
lmao countered
>>336668923
As Mei player easy kill him.
>it's an overwatch cancer thread
>no mention of the class that's literally the tf2 sentry gun on steroids
>>336668923
Reinholdt's shield protects against high noon and flash bang, reaper easily out dps's him, tracer can teleport around and away from high noon, and resets, torbjorn and roadhog can deal with him at close range with their shotgun blasts, and both of their ults counter high noon. Hell, roadhog can counter high noon with a hook. He really isn't that strong.
>>336673456
Yeah, i got a 28 kill streak because she is literally impossible to kill.
>>336673195
pls post futa version if you have it
>>336673512
>he fell for the bastion has no counters meme
*picks widowmaker* nothin personel kid
>>336673406
in TF2 you don't really die as fast, and can fight back a little better, also you can uber in emergencys.
in Overwatch you could melee wich does poor damage, or use your pistol and hope for the love of god you manage to headshot that tracer / genji fucking you up.
mostly you are just fucked in overwatched, just flying to someone else is your best bet.
>>336673512
You mean Heavy who turns into a Sentry Gun with nospread and permanent sandwich that can be interrupted at any time.
>>336673437
It's not even Pharah. Literally anyone who flanks will have their way with Mercy since no one seems to care about protecting her.
>>336669236
A-Mei-Zing!
whats the Scout equivalent in Overwatch?
>>336673563
Tracer
>>336671321
>Playing as Genji
>Enemy Genji hops into a small room with me
>Both of us hopping around the room like madmen missing every throw for at least a minute and a half
HELP
>>336673563
Winston
>>336672340
>top: Tracer, Zenyetta
>worst: winston
>>336673563
Reaper or Tracer, though Tracer is better at holding objectives because she can teleport all over the place.
>>336673563
>whats the Scout equivalent in Overwatch?
Retards will say Tracer, but his real equivalent is Genji.
>>336672995
SHITTER NO SHITTING
SHITTER NO SHITTING
SHITTER NO SHITTING
>>336671060
>>Her ultimate handicaps her for a bit
if you don't mess up you get a free mech out of her mech ult
>>336671001
She's a hard counter to Roadhog. While her shields are active (and they're always active) you can't hook her, and unless you ambush her up close you can't deal damage to her with your M1 or 2 and he has no other offensive options so she can just outrange you to death unless you retreat
>>336673349
As a rule of thumb - just don't count on any kind of gratitude from pubs. If you want to play Mercy - just patch everyone up, but don't bust your ass because of some over-confident idiot. Just healing alone is a great credit to the team.
>>336673563
CHEERS LUV
>roadhogs hook goes through dvas defense matrix
another reason for me to hate this shitty hero
>yfw you hear it
YOU'LL LOOK GOOD WITH AN APPLE IN YA MOUTH
>>336673546
W-what? Mercy is pure. PURE!Sorry man, lost all my Patreons over the new yearYou can have this though, it's perfect
>>336671396
>Do the ult
>Reinhart charges it out of the cap
>Only he dies and team is spared.
>>336673736
>shoot it twice
>it blows up
its only good if you use it from a high vantage point as shitters never look up
>>336673464
>I-I have footage I swear!! I've seen someone get killed by it!! I'm not a shitter!1!!1
kekketykek
>>336673532
>tfw catching her right after ulting with me hook
Always one of the most satisfying characters to 1-shot
>>336671447
My nigga
She has the black hole ult, the most common trope for "just fuck a whole team up" - do I even need to go further?
>>336670141
Junkrat is also pretty good at killing the shield.
i can already tell what the competitive team comp is going to be
two rehinhardts(or potentially rheinhardt/winston)
mercy
le high noon man
widowmaker
pharah
rheinhardts shield is fucking broken as fuck
Who's the best partner for mercy to play with?
>>336673086
>Mexican
>Ability to Read
Pick one
>>336673338
>>336673327
I get you, that makes sense
>>336673532
>literally impossible to kill
Literally just teleport behind her and shoot.
If she turns to shoot you, teleport behind her again.
>>336673456
Isn't she supposed to be Korean?
She looks like a light skinned Vietnamese.
>trying to play Zarya in pubs effectively
GET IN THERE
>>336673779
There are multiple tournaments freely available to watch whenever you like. I'm not babying you because you played three games in an Open Beta and think your great.
>>336673776
Thats why it can climb walls, its also pretty easy to dodge incoming fire and previously it died in one shot but exploded anyway. Its range is alot larger than it seems and most Junkrats should be high up somewhere anyway to rain spam down more effectively.
>>336673870
>no genji
>mercy instead of Lucio
nah you gotta analyze the game more.
>>336673921
>vietnamese
no
>>336671465
W-what?
Did I read that right? You ppay with arrowkeys instead of mouse?
>want to try overwatch out while its in beta
>heard its only in beta for like 4 days or some shit
>6gb download thats gonna take me at least 3 hours
feelsbadman
>>336673716
>get hooked through shield
>one shot from roadhog up close decimates your shield anyways.
I've taken to simply boosting out of sight if I see a roadhog, unless my mech was already destroyed in which case I use him to get it back. Roadhogs have a horrible time trying to hook me when I'm out of the suit for some reason.
>>336673563
Its genji. Tracer lacks vertical mobility.
>>336673959
thats because DVA is tiny as fuck
im pretty sure she has the smallest model and hitbox not counting the dorf
>>336671060
D-Va is a well crafted joke about starcraft "pros"
You have to do boring autistic crap to play her correctly
>>336673870
It's 2 tracer 2 soldier 76 1 mccree 1 lucio
>be mercy
>defend with my nigga bastion for 10 minutes
>he gets all the commends
>>336673870
it used to be 2 winstons, 2 reapers, 2 lucios.
>>336673954
If your internet is that bad then fuck you for wanting to play an online FPS in the first place.
>>336670065
Just like TF2 ubers?
>>336673650
Actually... you are right.
>>336673940
either way it's gonna be two rheinhardts and a widow
fuck rheinhardt for real that hero pisses me off
>>336674089
not really the same when uber can be countered by killing the medic or airblasting the uber away
>>336673532
>Impossible to kill
You're right, it's impossible for her to get a kill.
>>336674056
Yes because online games typically use more than 600KB/s
D.Va is one of the easiest heroes to play.
Press E if hook,ult,turret or sniper occurs
Playing on both ps4 and pc, I can say ps4 has less retards and tryhards. There's still the bastion reinhardt meme but it is pretty much the same in terms of performance.
Being an idort helps sometimes.
>>336673753
I'M GUNNA HOOK YA
I'M GONNA EAT YA
>>336671017
WOULDN#T
>hear that it's high noon
>everyone turns around and only dopeys get shot
>realize I'm playing with jap voices
Say what you want, McCree is fun as fuck.
I'll admit that the alt-fire on the revolver is fucking ridiculous, however. WAY too fast firing for pretty much no downside.
Flash grenade, roll towards them, alt-fire usually kills anyone i use it on dead.
>>336673959
>>336674012
>>336674013
Her damage output is higher out of the mech and shes harder to hit because shes fast and tiny. If you can aim its better to be out of a mech than in one because at least then you can kill people and you have the mech to jump into whenever you get into a little bit of trouble.
Then again there are multiple characters that are more useful than D.va in almost every respect.
>the hook is hitscan
defend this
>Lucio
What was his ult quote again? Lets break it down?
Anyway it is hype as fuck
>>336674293
>not alt fire into roll into alt fire
That is how you kill everything anon.
>>336674296
Tracer is literally a better D.VA
Coming to think of it, Tracer does the same as many heroes, except better.
>>336674293
Your doing it wrong.
Its E then Right Click then Roll which fully reloads the gun and then another Right click.
That will kill everything in the game.
>>336674412
>then Roll which fully reloads the gun
thank you for this knowledge
>>336674454
read the bloody f1
Pharah is the second hottest behind widowmaker
>>336674367
>>336674412
Then i've been fighting total shitters if i was doing it wrong AND getting away with it.
Or perhaps it just shows how silly the alt-fire is?
>>336674454
F1 as soon as you use a new character, it will help you out a lot.
>>336671746
playing as Lucio, took 52% (FIFTY TWO PERCENT) of team damage got one commend nice
>>336673898
>Who's the best partner for mercy to play with?
Zarya, obviously.
>>336674404
Reaper and Winston take out Widows easier, Rein is better at straight constant reliable damage blocking, Hog and Zarya are better bruisers/team carries.
D.Va is good for harassment (not as good as T.Racer) and being bullied and thats about it. Its an amazing shitter containment character.
>>336674491
I noticed she's got a lighter skin tone in the HUD image than in the Hero Select menu.
Why is that?
>>336673898
Bastion
Go in front of the enemy spawn when you're defense and let mercy give you damae, shit's fun
>Go tracer on KOTH
>Enemy team are all bunched up capping the point
>Blink in, use ult, blink out
>4 kills
Feels good.
>>336674474
>>336674507
I stopped reading those when I found out they're lying.
It says if you get a kill with Genji's swift strike the cooldown resets.
I thought to myself how I could chain that shit and kill everybody low on health, but the cool down never resets, it's bullshit.
>>336671656
admitting to everyone your a literal shitter at Overwatch
If you use Bastion on offense you're a fucking fag
Mei, Widowmaker and Hanzo are literally cancer and if you play them you deserve to die.
>>336674630
It does reset though
>one ability doesn't work correctly in my head so I'll never try to understand what any others do
>>336674609
Depends on what you want to do with your Mercy, damage boosting a Widow can murder entire teams easily if the Widow can aim. Healing a Bastion is both boring as fuck and pointless, and the classic tank heals are great.
The synergy with Pharah is awesome but it will leave you massively exposed to fire and the enemy team will target you over anything else.
>>336673898
damage buff Junkrat.
damage buff soldier when he uses visor
hang around with pharah for air superiority
heal your tank.
>>336671060
Yeah but
>Charge into a crowd of enemies
>Activate ult
>Run away
>Win the match
>>336671582
git gud
>>336674667
>implying Offense and Defense are meant to be taken literally
A Defensive class is much better when you're on Offense.
How does someone even get into mobas? My friend wants me to play league but it seems like a pain to start, learning what items to build or even what all the characters do seem like its gonna take forever.
>>336669418
Its currently free and fun
>>336674630
The dash has to be the killing blow, and it really does work. Its possible to kill entire teams or just get out of the hot zone using the dash reset. Its one of the things that makes him so fucking deadly when played well.
>>336674762
Just don't. Play something with light moba elements like this (which is a mild stretch) instead of becoming the cancer.
>>336674762
It's not a moba
>>336674809
>>336674823
opps wrong tab
>>336674727
this is an uholy combination
>>336674752
No, I'm not implying that you fucking idiot. I'm saying if you play Bastion on offense you're a fucking idiot.
If there was an example of a casual shooter, this is it.
What is a casual? A casual is a person who doesn't really play video games, but either A: Is too uneducated to get into anything else, e.g. reading, board games, painting; B: Only plays video games, because it's "hip" now.
Either way, a casual is not interested in mastery, he only wants to "win". Not get better, not learn all there is to know about the game, just the "winning" part. Games like Overwatch, Call of Duty, LoL etc. provide this. You don't need to even aim at peoples' heads as sniper characters, it's enough if you just bodyshot them. If you're not a complete idiot, you can just wait for a concentration of enemies to unleash your ultimate for "wins".
You do not need skill to be good at this game, you just need to not be stupid with your abilities.
>>336674762
mobas are garbage
Overwatch is a hybrid but the moba aspect (cooldowns) are really fucking shitty
>want to climb a ledge
>use up a hook
>have to wait 5 seconds to use it again
fucking stupid mechanic
imagine the game with only ultimate cooldowns being more than 5 seconds and the primary and secondary abilities are simply 1-2 second cooldowns.
the game would be much faste rpaced and actually be more fun
>>336674762
Play heroes of the storm then
>>336674852
Well i read your post wrong
I played dota for 5 years or so and switched to league for my friends
After a while eveyr match ends with fight between us so i stopped playing league altogether, rocket league is where it's at
>>336674737
>not rocketing your mech into them from a distance so that they have less time to get away
Protip, ulting while your boost is active keeps the mech moving even while you're not in it. Just dropping the middle of them and ulting is nowhere near as effective.
>>336674762
Just don't play league. It's like shitty meth that doesn't even get you high it just kills you.
Just say no.
>>336674886
>want to hook someone as roadhog
>miss
>have to wait 6 seconds to try again
fucking bullshit
>>336674869
>jump on the payload
>turret mode
>win the game
???
literally s good as Reinhardt on Offense just blocking bullets while moving the car.
>>336674886
It would be a fucking mess though, like saying imagine if TF2 would be better if all self-inflicted damage was removed. It would be even more of a clusterfuck than it already is.
>>336674946
fuck you
>>336672475
Well come to PvP game discussion.
It's even funnier when you realize the TTK in this game is about 2-3 seconds, so anybody can easily die to anything.
>>336672340
Symmetra is devastating in some situations, I rack up a lot of kills with her on payload.
>>336674946
>have to wait 5 seconds to roll as le high noon man
what is he too fat to roll again after recovery?
does he need to catch his breath?
rolls and other tiny abilities shouldnt even have cool downs
it's like giving Genji's double jump a fucking cool down
>>336674870
what game do you main
>>336674952
What are you fucking level 5 dude?
>jump on the payload
>turret mode
in what hypothetical game do you play where you don't get face fucked by standing on the payload
>>336673606
>Tracer
>not best
She does literally anything and she does anything well.
You can kill, you can distract, you can capture, her insane mobility makes her super strong
And don't forget her ult which instakills ANYONE except another Tracer.
>>336675079
Not really anything. Depends on the weather.
>>336671746
>got 5 man reaper ult within 3 hours of the beta coming out
>LEGENDARY
>>336674952
>expose self from every angle
You deserve every sniper/pharah that kills you for doing that.
>>336670696
>Enemy is using 2 bastions
>Go Genji to counter them
>Team is getting shot at
>Double jump dash in front of both of them
>Deflect that shit back at them
>They fucking explode in seconds
So that's what it feels like to be Grey Fox.
>>336675186
What if it's warm but it's cloudy and there's a very light rain
>there are people
>on this board right now
>who care about who gets the most upvotes
>who think they deserve upvotes for playing medic
>>336672475
>but that enemy team Widow is going to enjoy using you as target practice.
Which is why you should have a Tracer flanking the enemy team in order to put pressure on that Widow.
>>336675136
>at least half of the other heroes in the game can one shot her
>her ult can't even one shot a hog
>>336672037
had a mercy res their entire team and I ulted them as bulldyke russian and killed them all.
Mercy got potg
>>336675062
It completely reloads his gun in a fraction of the time it would normally take and it lets him quickly avoid damage.
Can you imagine being able to do that constantly, how much of a rolling ball of fucking right click death he would become?
>>336675253
I usually upvote supports on pubs. Who else should I vote for? Genjis or Reapers? No, thanks.
How to play Reinhardt:
>hold m2
thats it.
How do I get better with Phara?
I mainly aim at their feet and rely on splash damage but I really want to land body shots.
Should I stick to the ground or focus on high altitude areas?
Also is the popping in and out of cover and shooting a rocket a good strategy?
>>336669576
I use Genji. Just use your mobility to get near her using blindspots one burst and a shift kills her
>>336670709
LETS BREAK IT DOOOWN
>>336675289
just dodge you shit
>>336675349
Don't see how that relates my man.
>>336675352
>not going full berserk with mercy and holing m1 with 1000000m melee range and getting multikills
>>336675352
>never charging
>never chunking niggas
>never ulting to stun their whole team on the payload for the rest of the conceivable notion of time
>never shooting hammers
I hope you're the other team's Reinhardt
>>336675363
SHOOT FLOOR ACQUIRE KILLS
>>336675349
you could just upvote the good players
>>336675363
shooting rockets down a chokepoint is a solid plan
but you really want to try stay in the air, disrupt their team with E grenade.
also consider changing if they have 2 MCcrees or a good widowmaker or something.
>>336675287
That was kind of my point, this is a 6 person team game with constantly interactions between different players, its not a moba where everyone just ends up having duels in their own little area of the map until its time to group up. Theres constant confrontations between everyone in the game. So simply saying "Just do this to counter this" is never going to work.
"Jump in-front of a Bastion and reflect his damage."
"Theres a Rein standing in-front of the Bastion and a Mercy next to them."
"No but I did it once so it works just do that its fine!!"
>>336672618
I've seen that, with a mercy by his side
While devastating, not unstoppable.
>>336675349
>I usually upvote supports on pubs
classes that take skill?
i "upboat" most of the offense class since they're actually in the heat of battle
rarely ever commend the support class or tanks since they're big balls of lards
>>336675363
don't fire rockets at feet they do 40 damage instead of 100, you have to aim for directs or shes really, really bad.
>>336673585
>>Both of us hopping around the room like madmen missing every throw for at least a minute and a half
Truly a duel of ninjas is less of a melee and more an art form.
>>336668923
>Playing as Mei in that japanese map
>The dojo has 3 entry points
>Literally just keep ice-blocking it right when someone comes in
>They turn around for another entrance? Block that right when they're entering
>They start to focus on me
>My response is always the same: ice-wall
>Junkrat gets desperate and wheels up to me
>mfw I put a wall right before he hits me
I can't guys, it's too satisfying. I get what Trump means with that shit, it's too fun.
>>336675349
I just upvote what looks impressive. Roadhog was on fire for 85% of the match? Commended. Pharah had 28 objective eliminations? Commended. Son on and so forth.
>>336675564
9/10 I will commend a Tank if he gets the Damage Blocked card. Its a fucking thankless job and it really does lead to winning more games.
Fuck ever giving it to a Sniper or a Bastion. Go fuck yourself.
>>336672641
How are these plays decided?
They should just do last kill instead
>"play" solo custom games to leans the maps and health pack locations
>rubber banding like hell
the fuck
>>336675543
>Enemy team picks 3 Widows
>We have 2 bastions, a hanzo, and a torbjorn
>Tell my team to pick Tracer or Reaper or someone to flank
>They don't and we lose in less than 3 minutes
Why are people so dumb?
>>336675648
wh-what about doing 30% of the entire teams damage?
>>336675253
i always upvote myself because im the best!
>>336671973
pretty fucking great on payload
also FOR THE LOVE OF GOD POST SAUCE
>>336669576
the monkey, tracer, soldier and d.va all have good responses against her
>>336675752
Nah, only if you do over 50%.
>>336668923
McCree can ony 1v1 kids.
If he's getting attacked by more than one person he needs to run or die.
>>336675648
My friend had a match where he was on fire for 89% of the match and the enemy team was so salty that they didn't vote it up
>>336670063
>enemy team has a bastion and reinhardt duo.
>set up on corner with shield
>"haha you guys fucking suck, cant even capture the first objective"
>>336675648
Anyone who has an 'on fire for X time' option gets my commend. Nigga avoided being dead for a long ass time, that's worth a high five in my book.
Usually a Hook Accuracy is one for me too, because hooks fuck up teams.
>>336675752
I usually see upwards of 40% if the card actually shows up but doing a third of your team's damage doesn't sound bad at all.
>>336673456
>Asuka bitchface girl
*drake holding his hand out to imply he does not want*
>>336671881
>mercy resurrection play of the game
>>336670696
Hearing a Bastion in turret mode getting kills while a Genji is on out team is like cancer in stereo.
>>336675834
>Guy on fire 90% of the time
>It's fucking Bastion who managed to stall the entire enemy team through the support of the rest of his team
>>336675816
Not being able to commend opponents for doing well is a sure sign of a faggot.
>>336675834
Yeah, it's surprisingly difficult to stay alive for a long time unless you're roadhog or D.va who always seem to live forever.
>>336675864
>things that never happen
>>336675864
>tfw have only gotten one PotG as Mercy
>it was me reviving a single reaper and then giving him a damage boost for a triple kill
I felt really bad, at least give PotG to something that looks more impressive than pressing Q before holding rmb.
>>336671854
it did
>attacking objective
>get the first one easily enough
>alright guys, we've got like five minutes left to get the last one, this should be easy
>everyone just dies and then immediately starts running for the objective upon respawn
>literally run single file into the meat grinder
>i type "hey lets form up and go together"
>nobody listens
>lose match
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT EVERY GAME. Meanwhile, defense is like autowin because the opposite team then does this. Why are people who play this games complete fucking morons? half the point of the class system is the fucking teamwork
How is symmetra?
>>336675957
I've had it happen exactly once. I rezzed 3 teammates who were on cart.
>>336676135
eh
i dont wanna play as an indian
who else /leavewhenlosing/ master race
>the only penalty is getting less cosmetic shit that will get wiped out once the beta ends
>not having to deal with shitters
>>336676082
The same reason team with the mercy auto wins
>>336676082
The last one is the hardest because the defenders spawn closer to it.
>>336668923
>roadhog, widow, hanzo, rienhardt, etc
His super is only good if you standout in the open for jarring amounts of time. Move nigga.
>>336676165
>caring about stats
>in a beta
>in pubs
lol fag
Is it just me, or do you guys only ever upvote people on your own team for MVP?
>>336676135
pretty solid for setting up traps/ pressuring chokepoints/reinhardts and her Ult is god tier on defense.
shes not a healer tho
>>336673774
What a fucking hero
>>336669621
N O T H I N G
P E R S O N N E L
>>336669794
He's like the big boss of overwatch of course he banged tracer
>>336676135
Put the teleporter somewhere nice.
Put the turrets somewhere people won't expect/want them
Watch bitches die and your team always be around
>>336676235
Nope if a Tank helps his team win then he has my vote.
It is hilarious when theres only one card for the enemy team and they all vote for that card though. Always amusing.
>>336675752
>play Roadhog
>a fucking tank class
>we lose and stats screen comes up
>43% of team damage
>>336676373
Roadhog can do a shit ton of gamage, what are you on about?
>>336669057
Because he is a spaghetti western character, m8.
>>336676223
It's not about stats, it's about not wasting my time.
>>336676417
He has good burst potential, I can argue. But 43% of ALL of the team damage during the whole match? That's just shows how shit your team is.
>>336676284
You can also use turrets as an early warning system because its knee jerk to destroy them which instantly lets you know that someone is where they should not be.
Good idea to have say 4 covering an over-lapping area because multiple beams cause more and more slowdown, areas high up where the enemy team has to walk under are amazing because its really hard to hit them without explosives and with team pressure they can hold chokes for ages, a Mei is a great helper.
>>336670436
She's unbalanced piece of shit she is and can deal with everything.
>>336676524
>can argue
can't argue
quickfix
>>336676373
Hog is a Bruiser with a stupidly high damage output. Its not like hes D.Va. 3 of the 5 tanks have very high damage in the right circumstances.
>>336670436
>people think Tracer is offense
>she actually does everything better than half of the heroes in the game
>>336676373
>he thinks this is ff14
This isn't an mmo, kiddo. The archetypes denote your positioning and role in relativity to your team, not your damage and abilities.
>>336676524
Fair point, I would still say he works like a tanky bruiser moreso than a tank. If he lands a hook on you you're probably going to die.
Oh and the downside to playing Hog is you act like an enemy team Ult charger by eating so much pure health damage and then healing it back up to take more straight damage.
>>336676685
Depends on if he knows to hold down Left Click when the hook is pulling them in so the shot is instant and not trying to hit it awkwardly once the hook animation finishes, also meleeing instantly after the left click.
The amount of times I managed to just conc bomb myself away from a shitty Roadhog is depressing and should never happen. Same goes for Mei Ice block then wall.
>no losses in stats
>but wins and games played where anyone with basic math skills can figure out the number of losses
>except leaving doesnt count as game played
>joining a losing game 2 second before the end does though
>playing brawl counts as working off your leaver penalty but doesnt show up in the stats
Fucking blizzard. They should just remove stats altogether if they cant do it right.
>>336676935
I'm glad blizzard is killing the cancer that is statfags.
Statfags killed world of tanks. Buncha faggots who care about winrate and WN8 over shit that matters.
Whoever plays Junkrat, mains him and enjoy is a faggot with no life and should end himself. If you want to play an FPS stop playing this fucking bullshit character who just shoots randomly and get kills. Faggots.
And let's not talk about Mei. Fucking cancer, nerf his fucking damage and her retarded stun.
>>336677270
but thats not going to make statfags go away, just give them more tools to manipulate their own while ridiculing others, since you can check anyones stats ingame.
Blizzard should a) remove the ability for anyone else to see your stat page (which would allow them to track whatever the fuck they want) and b) give players the option to reset their stats at any time (except comp which would reset with seasons i guess). Personally i reset my TF2 stats whenever i picked up the game after a long break for example.
>>336674349
I'm pretty sure it's not, or if it is there's a delay until a good way through the animation. I know I've dodged it on reaction as Tracer before.
>>336677618
>u so mad.
>enter game
>lose instantly
great game """"""""""""""""""""""""""design"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>336677618
If you wanna play an FPS, dont play overwatch faggot
>>336677970
>>336678029
junkfaggots detected
>>336678013
>being so shit that your mere existence on a team causes them to lose
how embarrassing
>>336675639
>Junkrat sends the RIP-Tire after me
>Build the wall
>He climbs up it
fuck
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