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Could this game save 4X?
>>336666252
Legit excited for it. Especially the anomaly/late game crises elements of the game that refer to classic sci-fi. All wrapped up in a big 4X. Took a day off to get into it.
what the fuck is stellaris?
>>336666345
From my perspective:
It is a space themed colonization type game in which you can make your own people and decide what their boons and flaws. You explore galaxies and meet with other species and interact either peacefully or with extreme prejudice. The objective of the game is to stand the test of time and survive an end game catastrophe.
Sounds fun. But I never really played a game like this.
here's a race maker if you want to fiddle around with it kaisersly.github.io/stellaris_race_maker/
Crack when
>>336666345
>you can make your own people
so wait, are we talking like star trek make your own crew, or creating your own civilization? After STO, I've been wanting a good game involving me and a bunch of other folks touring the galaxy and doing some good.
>>336667042
its a 4x/grand strategy not an mmo
>>336666252
whatever it'll do to the genre, such mix of two genres is more than welcomed
late game 4x usually all about combat and that's boring
>>336666324
This is what I'm most interested in. Late-game 4X games all seem to just settle down into an endless grind as you consolidate and then creep outward with your military/culture/influence until you win. Anything that will shake that up is worth a look.
>>336667380
I also like the ongoing quests during the initial gameplay to make it feel like there's some purpose to progressing, rather than simply blobbing.
i wish sins of a solar empire didn't shit itself when you tried to play with 100 planets
who wants to play that kind of game with like 20 planets
Will it be sold in retail format?
There's a 25% off coupon on GMG
>implying preordering
But it'slooking so good!
>>336669882
Digital only as it's looking.
it's the true MOO2 sequel in my heart... I'm hyped af
>>336666324
Well sword of the stars already does this. Does it really well. There's heaps of random encounters and events, but late game only 1 crazy one will spawn.
Can be a planet destroyer that just goes from planet to planet destroying them, an intergalactic peacekeeper that sets rules and limits and fucks up anyone that breaks them or a replicator moon that eats planets and creates more replicator.
Can't recall if there are others. I'm looking forward to what Stellaris does.
>>336670118
I don't mind breaking my never-preorder rule since Paradox has a great track record for long term support, and I've seen enough if the game on the Blorg streams to decide that I think it looks good.
>>336666572
It's called a 4x game. I've you've played civ then you've played a game like it.
>>336671019
It's enough of a grand strategy/4x hybrid that it will do some new things I geuss.
>>336671123
Hopefully.
>>336670973
Legit hadn't heard of this before.
Thanks anon.
>>336671123
>I geuss
>>336666252
will it be autistic? gsg games are generally too much for me, so I never played any
there are no pauses/breaks in the multiplayer right? or how does it work
>>336671732
seconding the question
>>336671727
probably about the same level as CK2, so not very
nothing close to eu/vicky/hoi anyway
>>336671717
>*It's a hologram"
Every time
>>336671717
>It's a hologram
Everytiem
>>336671717
>it's a hologram
oh im laffin'
>>336671703
>It's enough of a grand strategy/4x hybrid that it will do some new things I geuss.
Just play the first, ignore the second. Looks and sounds like ass, but it's legit one of my favourite games. Pseudo random tech tree, very different factions, lots of random factors, real time space battles with physics so things like tractor beams and grav mines are actually feasible, etc.
>>336671727
They said this was going to be the most -easy to get started with- paradox game up until now. So if any gsg is gonna be your entry point, it might as well be this one.
>>336671717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf0NCHMWcZA
>actual first contact in a space 4X game
>>336670263
The store near me (Game, UK) was selling codes on cards, but no proper box, and it was a bit more expensive (£29.99) than GMG with 25% off code (SPACE25, £34.99 to £26.24)
Unsure how that translates into other currencies.
>>336673248
Shame there is no box though, first time in a while I would have liked to own the box desu.
>>336666324
hello Johan
>>336674136
I ain't no Johan familia.
What kind of society are you guys gonna play first? I'm gonna try and prove ME:3 wrong and make a perfect robot and organics utopia.
>>336674610
http://empiredesigner.xyz/
I'm gonna try and do some space science.
>>336675008
100% reddit tier.
Of course all of you sperlords have to go materialistic+Intelligent for the tip fedora meme science boost.
Why do so many replies in these threads look fake and committee-designed?
>>336675240
Because you are in a shill thread
>>336670973
>Sword of the Stars
My
Fucking
Negro
>that 4x gameplay
>that real time combat
>that open ended first contact
>that lore by the same writer as Homewrold
>that genocide Hiver scum on sight
How long until horsecock futanari draenei race mod?
>>336675605
>>that lore by the same writer as Homewrold
Not entirely. The bigwig worked on the Homeworld expansion, which is cool and all, but he is like the Anthony Burch of that team.
Most of the law was written by this hyper feminist that got mad when some dude in the forums pointed out that her entries on human women in the military were wrong.
Also pretty sure the guy in charge of art is a furry.
The developers are all completely fucked, which is why SotS 2 was such a disaster. Still, they struck gold with the first one.
>>336671717
>It's a hologram
>>336675126
Am I a meme too?
interstellar jihad when
>>336676130
Why would you?
>>336673248
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ikaron-0638264151994-Stellaris-PC-DVD/dp/B01DP02J1O
There you go, proper boxed DVD version.
We Star Trek now
>>336675126
>minmaxing is bad
>>336676543
I didin't said anything about minmaxing, we don't even know if the science boost is that good in this game.
I just said that it is funny to see all the redditors going intelligent+materialistic.
>>336676687
Like the 40k Imperium memers are any better.
can I win by interbreeding the xenos out of existance?
Gonna turn up the May 9th Russian victory parade when playing this.
>>336675008
I can't wait to purge.
>>336676687
>we don't even know if the science boost is that good in this game.
What? Faster research speed in ANY game is incredibly valuable, it gives you a big edge over others and this is emphasized when you eventually get to war. It's not necessarily the be-all end-all strategy to take materialist/intelligent but it's a combination that makes sense.
I tried and i failed
>>336676130
Jewish reference?
>>336676353
>>336677089
why not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUnSGz8vW0U
Gotta get that money
*tip*
>>336677776
Very swarm-like.
>>336677041
For the eeeempraaaah!!
>>336677831
That's actually a neat idea.
>>336677776
Switch xenophobic for spiritual, then you can mod this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUohUrWlJeE as the background music while you spread based orthodoxy across the galaxy
>no consume all swarm type faction
I'm disappointed
>>336677973
Not sure if I want to get rid of militarist for xenophobe.
>>336678090
All the government types have upgraded versions of them. One of them is Hive Mind.
>>336678090
There is at least three of them
>>336678230
>View screen off
Pretending you didn't see is the best answer.
>>336678216
Wasn't that AI only though?
>>336678230
Can I play as them?
>>336678560
no to both
>>336677831
I don't see a problem there.
>>336670794
You know, even if it's not like Master of Orion 2 all the way, it's much more of a successor than MOO3 ever was. I can't wait to play this game until Star Citizen releases.
>>336678613
Well you can probably tag-switch to them, you can do that with AI empires and Fallen Empires, so why not with late-game threats?
Not entirely sure the traits are right
>>336678813
>so why not with late-game threats?
Because they are going to be insanely powerful galaxy-threatening powers, and making them controllable by players is dumb. Same applies to fallen empires and how they can't be playable.
>>336678987
Well, you can probably tag-switch to them as I said, which is not official but it makes everything playable.
The Devs said so in the MP stream.
Someone do Galactic Empire and Free Planets Alliance.
someone needs to mod in asari so I can go around the universe giving every race the BBC
>>336671727
/gsg/ hates it because it's not autistic enough. Plus paradox is including a voiced helper AI if you want help figuring out what shit does.
>>336679192
>Well, you can probably tag-switch to them as I said, which is not official but it makes everything playable.
You're misinterpreting what the devs have already said numerous times. You can switch to AI empires if your empire is eliminated or if you join in progress. But you cannot join as fallen empires or late game threats as they are too powerful.
Suddenly it's may. What the hell.
>>336679601
I know man, Stellaris and the next Witcher audio book are coming out so soon.
It back in January it felt like it was going to be so far away.
>>336679464
Not him, but do you know what "tag switch" means?
>>336679710
>le funny cuck meme
>>336675126
>>336676687
>wanting to research shit is reddit
Oh fuck off already. Research speed increases are always valuable in almost every Paradox game ever.
>>336678230
>Something with 'scourge' in the name
>Can we coexist?
>>336679464
In the MP stream, the devs clearly say that they want to tag-switch to a fallen empire and kill the streamer that is living next to it, but they won't do it because that isn't fair.
>>336679780
Yeah. I'd been watching the stream videos the past couple months and it felt so distant. I hope it turns out to be good.
>>336680048
>the devs clearly say that they want to tag-switch to a fallen empire and kill the streamer that is living next to it, but they won't do it because that isn't fair.
Because they're the fucking devs, they could do whatever they liked, which was also the reason why they could play AND act as spectator simultaneously.
>>336671717
>Its a hologram
>>336679993
That is what happens when you play a race with the hippi trait
>>336680386
In every paradox grand-strategy game you can tag-switch, and yes it is always done through the console so you need to type out the comment.
>>336666252
awww shit niggers we becoming the southern spess confederacy
>fanatic xenophobes for dat sweet slavery
>mild individualists for dat sweet southern independence
>going around taking over filthy space niggers and enslaving them in my space cotton fields
>naming my sectors after famous confederate politicians/soldiers
>getting cucked by liberal fagocracy's
can't wait
>>336679993
Space liberals man.
>You want to wipe out all life in the universe? Well that's your culture :^)
>>336678392
>You notice all the other civs across the galaxy are being exterminated.
>You get this transmission
No, no everything is fine. We are all going to be ok
>>336679993
You don't like refuges? What are you? a nazi? :v)
>>336681181
the end game crisis events better be actually strong and not just mildly inconvenient after the initial push
I want literal spess empire to cease toe exist in after a month of contact
>>336681778
One of them shows up around 1:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sN6LQykAdM
They are called the unbidden.
In that video of the AI only map the UnbiddenChaosrampage through the southern part of the galaxy and are only stopped by hitting the fallen empires
>>336681778
They are very strong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sN6LQykAdM
>>336681778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sN6LQykAdM
Keep your eye on the Ikarzuri
The 'unbidden' is a crisis event.
>>336669882
Only in Germany/UK
>>336666572
Sounds more like gala civ, been hoping for a more refined distant worlds which is like a 4x that turns into almost a grand strategy late game
>>336681181
>some unknown force is destroying the outer rim
>picture shows a desk and some shelves
>>336677041
whats the point of slavery if you are going to kill other species anyway'
>>336682595
Gives them something to do while I purge their brothers
can someone make the 40k races using this?
http://empiredesigner.xyz/
Who here making a Sweden Yes faction?
>>336677831
Me and my friends already planned out our empires and the shenanigans we are going to pull.
>You can only have an enlightened monarchy if you're a pacifist
>>336683528
>wanting gods or kings
>>336683174
Adeptus Mechanicus is a Science Directorate with Xenophobes, Militarist and Materialist
Probably with Solitary, Enduring, Resilient and Natural Engin(s)eers
Why should I play this instead of distant worlds?
>>336683528
yeah I'm not liking how limited the race builder is
for example, you can only either be a cold robotic materialist or a full blown hippy spiritualist, nothing seems moderate here
>>336683843
you can pick neither of those though?
>>336683843
i think you're looking at only one of the opposing categories
plus just because you're spirital doesn't mean you're a hippy
my first empire is going to be fanatic collectivist spiritualist insects in a divine mandate who enslave everyone
>>336683843
The bonuses are already minuscule. Anything in between would have +3% food production or someshit, completely irrelevant.
Why would they even include pacifist traits if the fucking Tyranids invade at the end and you need to go out all guns blazing?
>>336684497
Just because you're a pacifist doesn't mean everyone else is.
>assume the system requirements will be kind of similar to EUIV
>recommended; AMD Phenom II X4 850 @ 3.3 Ghz or Intel i3 2100 @ 3.1 Ghz
well fuck, now I get to upgrade my shitbox PC
>>336684814
Those are some ancient processors. My computer is almost 7 years old and I have a slightly better processor.
>>336672176
>geuss
Lost it
>>336675008
Space Beetle Master Race
>>336684884
Yeah, still EUIV had significantly lower requirements and it's fairly recent
>>336682412
Everyone's dead.
>>336685132
OUR TROOPS SCUTTLE FROM THE BATTLEFIELD
SHAMFUR DISPRAY
>>336675008
>you can't be a hivemind that consume all live
1/10 game, would no play
>>336676874
>Russian Engineering
>Shakhty Trials
>>336685218
It's not that recent. It was released almost 3 years ago. Back then my computer was only 4 years old.
>>336683814
>Why should I play this instead of distant worlds?
Removing unrewarding minutia. (This can be a plus or minus, but just go play Aurora if you want to go full autism)
More nuanced diplomacy.
Bigger variety of events and flavor to the world.
Graphics, if you care about that.
Multiplayer
Modding tools that support total conversions.
The biggest things that Distant Worlds does best are the Civilian sector and sophisticated automation vs. micromanagement options. Stellaris does seem to be doing the latter pretty well.
![2633177-trailer_endlesslegend_drakken_20140821[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jDyi0SQ.jpg "2633177-trailer endlesslegend drakken 20140821[1]")
>>336684497
Different game, but Endless Legend did their diplomatic / pacifist faction in a very novel way. Basically the faction starts with the location of all the players' capitals and is able to communicate with them from the start of the game. They're also best at accumulating Prestige, which is a currency used to provide empire wide bonuses or commit diplomatic actions.
The main kicker was that they could force peace and alliance on any player they wanted. While their main victory condition was pacifist (accumulate diplomatic points by being in peace or alliance treaty with as many players as possible), they could also wage war really effectively. In case of offense; declare war as usual, quickly ninja few enemy cities then force a peace treaty before they could react. In case of a losing war quickly accumulate prestige and prevent the enemy faction from finishing you off.
Where my fascist xenophobic theocracy brethren at?
>>336684497
Think of it this way
If you're a pacifist, chances are you're playing very diplomatically. Your neighbors may not be pacifist. You can be the one to convince them all to join a federation of your making to fight the galactic scourge.
You too can play your part
>>336685272
Underrated post
>>336675859
Yeah the devs are a goddamn clusterfuck.
Back in 2012 they made this big bleeding statement about how mean bullies on the internet dare to criticize """gaming journalism"""" and use mean words. Ever since the goddamn disaster known as Swords of the Stars 2 release, they have been making shitty card games based on the SotS universe.
I don't think they have still recovered from it.
>>336686295
I chose to recreate the empire while the Big E was still alive
>>336686012
Fair enough.
Might give it a try at some point then.
>>336678903
Are you me?
>>336687165
Decadent?
>>336688462
well I needed points. But there was plenty of heresy already spreading in the prelude to the HH
>no space elves to subjugate and keep as sex slaves
No.
>>336688656
Gotcha. I'm a total novice when it comes to 40K stuff, sorry.
>>336681778
Not end game crisis but in the multiplayer stream a forgotten empire easily repeled the forces of almost every human player.
Anyone got suggestions for this?
>>336689079
Likely they attacked it simply because it was the last day of the 2-day multiplayer event, it was still mid-game where it was really too early to tackle them. I think in MP games with friends we will probably try to do the same and split the worlds between ourselves.
If I were to create a 40k mod, I'd probably divide the Imperium to different factions to better portray the ethos picks. Otherwise, Imperium is pretty much a fanatical everything.
Maybe something like Imperial Navy being Fanatical Militarist & Xenophobe, while a Rogue Trader dynasty possibly a Fanatical Individualist & Xenophile, and so on and so on.
Are the planets and systems randomly generated? Is Sol, Alpha Centauri, etc. always going to be there?
How would you recreate the Culture?
let's assume no point limit for now
Individualist
Xenophile
Pacifist
Materialist
Government type is tricky, since there is no "AI oligarchy". Some mix of direct democracy and science directorate
Adaptive
Natural sociologists
Quick learners
>>336689424
Oh yeah for sure and it was horribly coordinated. They did wait until they superior force or whatever that number is called but the forgotten eventually brought in big renforcement fleets.
It was mentioned that forgotten empires don't rebuild ships so I think it will end up being more of an attrition thing which would have taken too long to show.
I need something new because EU4 is going down in flames, and fast.
Has there ever been another game so fundamentally ruined by patches?
>>336689282
I wouldn't call the Mongols adaptive, they could only thrive in steppe/plain environments and they barely lasted a couple generations
>>336689431
Different empires in Stellaris-terms would better suit the Imperium given it's size.
This is going to be fun.
>>336689735
Randomly generated.
But you can pick Sol as the starting system. Then you get all the planets like Mars, Venus and so on (but the minerals, energy, anomalies and other stuff in the system is still randomized).
If you don't pick Sol starting, then there is a random chance it appears somewhere in the galaxy. Then it might have a human empire, an irradiated wasteland, or primitive human civilization, and so on.
>>336666252
>Paradox
>It means it will never drop in price below 10 and the entire game is going to have more than 100 Dlc's
No
>>336689994
Adeptus mechanicus is individualist as fuck bro,the individual magi fight each other all the time.
>>336690290
it also means you can buy the core game and easily pirate all DLCs
but you're a retarded tripfag so you probably didn't know this
What planet types are you all going to start on?
>>336690306
My bad, admech aren't that familiar to me. Individualist also gives the credit boost on top of being Industrious.
>>336690389
Tundra probably.
I assume they all have equal distribution of resources, else playing on something like continental would be a massive advantage due to having extra food for growth at the start?
>>336690389
Desert
We Dune now
>>336690389
shouldn't tundra and arctic switch places? even looking at the visuals alone
>>336670973
Forgetting the Puppetteer, brah. Locust Hive World too.Von Neumann homeworld isn't a grand menace, but it's dece.
>>336690290
>more than 100 Dlc's
95 of which are purely optional cosmetics and the remaining 5 are solid expansion packs that add meaningful content and gameplay functionality.
>>336690795
wut? Tundra = northern Siberia, Arctic = ice
Which traits and ethos fits for a human military dictatorship? Ethos I think im gonna go for collectivist, militarist and either materialist or xenophobic. Traits I have no idea really, quick learner seems good but I cant decide on a negative trait
>>336690389
probably artic, arid or tundra in multiplayer games
need to get the opposite of what everyone else wants
>>336690898the locust is the replicator
>>336690795
I think its to do with presence of water, so tundra is supposed to be somewhat drier and more rocky.
>>336691012
communal, industrious, engineers
>>336690967
yeah exactly
isn't tundra closer to an Earth like planet than arctic?
>>336690389
>Can't be industrious Volcanic World
It hurts man.
>>336690898
That's right, the puppeteer. It was really rare for me.
>>336691196
oh, did you mean it's further in the pic? I don't know if that actually means anything gameplay-wise, it's all about your starting species's home planet. If you start on Earth I presume you can colonize tundras
>>336691131
Missed it, my bad.The version of it in #2 is seriously hardcore.
>>336691420
the centre of the pic talks about "steps", I assume it means the links between planets in the visualized circle
>>336691153
right I guess that makes sense
>>336691727
now that you say that I noticed it and it doesn't really make sense
if your homeworld is tropical you can get 60% from deserts?
>>336691420
>>336691727
>>336691953
If you start on Earth you won't be able to colonize tundra.
The further a planet is in that circle from your homeworld the lower its habitability for your species. Habitability is a pops maximum possible happiness, so settling on a tundra world would let you have a max happiness of 0%.
You also need to research a tech to colonize each type of planet that is not the same as your homeworld.
>>336691953
Correct
>>336692138
I get it but tropical and desert being so close (also arguably arctic and ocean) is weird
>>336675008
RED SPACE
>>336691727
It'll be partially heat based, deserts and tropics would have to be quite warm. then water based so desert and arid would have to be quite dry.
"You guys are used to hot and dry, so this hot but wet place works a bit, as does this dry but not necesarily hot place"
>>336692138
If you pick tundra as your homeworld and Sol as your system, won't Earth turn tundra?
>tfw Human Empire rising from nuclear winter
>>336692371
>intelligent
lol
>>336692435
No idea. They may lock it so you can only play Sol if your continental or something like that.
>>336692258
Yeah that is a little weird. Some of the planet make ups make sense (Ocean planet races being unable to deal with arid or desert), but the fact that continental races are somehow better adapted to living on literal ice rather than a snow covered tundra is a little sketchy.
Who /democracy/ and /freedom/ for the universe here?
>>336693018
Gonna try and make the Morrigi at some point but not sure how to go about it.
Failing that, United Federation of Planets might be fun, or idealistic spacemonarchy.
How do y'all come up with names for civilizations? I'm not having any luck with my war hawks.
Also, there's an advanced government type that gives your leader the title God-Emperor, for everyone who wants to make the Imperium
>>336693018
fuck off Dubuya
collectivist militaristic xenophobic dictatorship or bust
>>336692883
Could be mostly about growing the right amount of food, it would be slightly easier in the arctic than in most tundras IIRC.
>>336693168
>God-Emperor
Awww shit. Do you know what all of the advanced governments / titles are?
As for names, I just kind of let it come to me. Depending on how serious you want your space turkeys to be, I think some variation of Cawcaw will do fin. Like, Keraka or something.
>>336693247
I'm just nitpicking, I think the system will work pretty well from a mechanics perspective, and that's what really matters.
>>336693478
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Government
>>336693616
>http://www.stellariswiki.com/Government
Sweet! Thanks.
Are grand strategy games considered 4X?
Or is Stellaris more similar to traditional 4X than it is to grand strategy?
>>336693740
it's more 4X than grand strat
but it has nifty elements from GS
>>336693740
Some people say it's more 4x in early game and more gs in late game.
>>336693478
>Keraka
Kek, that's actually not bad.
And as someone linked, it's apparently Transcendent Empire. You need to be spiritualists.
>>336666252
>can Paradox save 4X
No. That would be Amplitude.
>>336693740
Stellaris starts off much like other 4x games, where you start off on your homeworld, explore the galaxy, build an empire, etc.
Once it reaches mid to late game and the empires have expanded to fill the map, it becomes more like a Grand Strategy game in terms of scope and diplomacy.
This unique hybrid approach is why people are so interested and have high hopes for Stellaris. It has the potential to make end-game much more interesting than typical 4xs, and it has a small symmetical start that GSs don't have.
tfw you can't turn your people into robots
>>336693976
>Craplitude
>Save 4x
Kek
STELLARIS IS GRAND STRATEGY FUCK OFF LIQUOR LADS
>>336666252
It will never be better than Endless Legend
>>336670118
I don't see any coupon...
>>336694161
>>336693976
I didn't enjoy Endless Space, but I loved Endless Legend.
They seem like a developer that learns from mistakes and listens to feedback, so I have high hopes for ES2.
>>336694161
>supporting Parajew
>>336694161
Not them, but they've arguably done more to innovate the 4X genre than any other company.
Plus their DLC is policy is better than Paradox.
>>336694387
>not enjoying both Amplitude and and Paradox games
Fuck off both of you.
>>336681181
>extra-galactic organic invasion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sN6LQykAdM
>unbidden
>>336694627
what happens if a hive fleet enters the eye of terror?
>>336694957
You don't really want to know the answer to that.
>>336691560
Hardcore as "difficult to defeat because it's stronk" or "because the game keeps crashing"?
>>336694571
I enjoyed EUI4 till the latest round of updates. Fuck the bullshit they keep adding.
>>336694957
It literally can't. The Hive Mind is so strong it pushes back the Warp as it advances.
Game for Aggressive knobs.
>4X
Who actually plays that shit?
>>336695213
How's that? The tyranids aren't even sensitive to the warp, are they?
>>336695740
>The tyranids aren't even sensitive to the warp, are they?
They are psykers. It's just that the single-minded will of the hive mind is so god-damned strong (trillions upon trillions of organisms) that it can tell a Chaos god to fuck off.
>>336695740
Shadow in the Warp. It makes psychic stuff hard to achieve and keeps whatever is in the warp inside.
>>336695738
This guy
>>336695738
The people posting in this thread, clearly. Use your brain, anon.
>>336695738
Everyone here but you
>>336696035
Why did he kill EU4?
Oxygen therapy for autism. Check it out. Just breathe when you need to and exhale when theres too much activity.
I just tried pre-ordering Stellaris on steam but my credit card was declined for being $300 over its limit.
pls buy
>>336695081
Hah.
The Hiveworld is a leviathan-class ship now, instead of dreadnought-class. No big deal; 'largest class available' is how it was in #1.
When it finishes eating a world it sends out Herald Moons. Like, every system within fifteen lightyears or something. These are dreadnought-class ships. Only one. Not too difficult to fight or destroy, even, if you have a combat fleet ready.
They go out, visit a system for one turn to survey it, then return to report on their findings. Of the ones that return, it totals all resources in the systems, then embarks to the one with the largest sum. With its full fleet of herald moons.
So you can keep it from coming at you by destroying every herald moon in one of your systems, but if it does wind up deciding to visit, it comes with an attendant fleet of dreadnoughts.
It is sort of boring from a stand point but no jokey here when you are in a nice fresh air room and you oxygenated out it sum good sheet playing this kind of thing, you can get creative and you need good circulation to appreciate this sort of game. If you aint got these prerequisites for this shit it move slow and is dull as poop so faster pace is a must. Call of duty fantastic for autism.
>>336682595
You can enslave your own species if they're being shit disturbers.
>>336696442
SoTS 1 or 2? Which should I play?
>>336684497
I believe pacifists get access to defensive tech and bonuses later on, also federations exist so you can employ more violent civilizations to fight enemies while you pull the strings in the background and manage administration.
Anyways I'm super psyched for Stellaris, I'm glad it's real time since turn based games start to wear thin in the late game when turns take 5 hours to process.
>>336697050
1.
11111111.
2 you can try after 1, if you want. It's much less popular and much less polished.
1 is fucking solid. Excellent.
2 is very... subjective.
>>336697050
1.
2 crashes everytime and the "officer" system thingy is retarded
>>336697050
Play one first for the love of god
>>336697569
It should also be noted that unlike every other 4x ever, there's actual timeline and story and canon progression between 1 and 2. It's not just civ 1, civ 2, civ 3, etc.
So play the original first for a variety of reasons.
>>336666252
I will like early game multiplayer before everyone finds the exploits
but afterwards everyone will spam optimum builds and fucking cheese it
I'll probably play something like this at the start.
Until I get bored and start to cheat/mod like fuck in SP.
>>336684497
Pacifists are encouraged to make friends and form federations, while your neighbors might not agree with each other, a good pacifist player could make them all see you as the voice of reason and you'll be able to lead a united galaxy against whatever end game threat you face.
Not to mention that end game invasions don't always happen, you could go through the whole game without having AI revolts or an invasion from outside the galaxy
I think it's cool that federations can have a separate fleet that can be built with components from each member.
>>336696313
go to GMG for a 25% discount my good goy. it's SPACE25.
>>336697815
Nobody should play the second one ever, it's a mess and the developers don't even have the funds to properly fix it anymore
>>336698261
Not to mention guess who owns the IP
>>336698052
While I'm hyped for the federation stuff, I'm worried that the AI will be dumb as fuck to the point of declaring war against a Fallen Empire and dragging the entire federation to their doom.
Members should be allowed to vote on matters related to war and what not so if some retarded player tries some dumb shit while being president, the rest of the federation can shut him down.
>>336698597
>Members should be allowed to vote on matters related to war and what not so if some retarded player tries some dumb shit while being president, the rest of the federation can shut him down.
But that's highly unrealistic. Just look at Turkey dragging NATO against Russia.
>>336697050
Neither, 1 has aged badly (interface is terrible) and 2 was terrible from the beginning.
>>336666252
fuck i hope its less 4x more ck in space or else im 30 bucks in the hole on another boring 4x
>>336697834
I know there are some light RP groups organizing to just have fun and avoid this.
>>336698813
Its 4x at the start but turns into grand strat towards the end to keep it interesting along with game ending events
kind of hyped about this
>>336698694
and t-b-h if a federation president does something fucktarded you just don't send any men and police your own borders
>>336698813
It'll be EUIV in space once the colonization period is over.
>>336698261
If you have some patience the second one is quite playable. ~4 crashes, 250 turns. AI isn't great, but mutliplayer works.
Not 'good' or 'finished', but playable and fun if you happen to like the changes.
Can you turn off those game ending events like massive alium invasions? I don't mind them being there, but if I just want to conquer every other AI in there.
>>336699096
Last time I tried it, I summoned a giant space whale, in combat it would do absolutely nothing apart from flying around and upon exiting combat, the game would crash. And if I actived any of its abilities, it'd crash. And the one time I actually managed to get it out of combat, tried to repair its ass, it crashed. I abandoned hope after that.
let's make this happen
Can't wait for the LOGH mod.
>>336690306
>>336690668
But what about the menials, they're just cogs.
>>336699064
That's not how Federations work, friend.
>>336699591
>Pacifist
>Xenophile
Cuck
>>336699410
Haven't played zuul, but human leviathans are pretty sexy. And don't seem to cause crashes.
Of course, I don't have any screenshots of it, so have a dreadnought instead.
>>336669797
I hear that. Late game is suffering.
>>336699675
in the game it looks like you still control your own ships, but can donate vessels to the federation navy that the president owns
if you don't want to help you just don't giv em jack
sotsbros, is this acceptable for morrigi?
Who is going to make /EarthGreatAgain/ here?
Going to probably need a fuckton of resources to terraform it tho
If you buy and not pirate it you're a literal faggot
>>336694771
>2:14 onwards
>>336699697
for me, making alliances and diplomacy is more fun in grand strat games. plus, all that science output hopefully means superior technology to deal with threats
>>336675126
Fuck materialism
Xenophobic militaristic spiritualist engaged
>mfw this game is coming out while i'm watching legend of the galactic heroes
i don't need it...
i don't need it...
i don't need it...
I NEED IT
>>336699926
Still haven't decided if I wanna go friendly technocrat or slaver "humans fuck yeah" empire.
>>336687078
I like Sword of the Stars but the main dev is a massive cunt. Plus they lied about why the SoTS 2 launch was so fucking shit - tried to claim someone had accidentaly uploaded a beta build
Unbidden spotted in ddrjake's stream on twitch
PLEASE BUY STELLARIS
PLEASE
I AM PLEADING TO YOU
BUY IT
quill18 has a LP up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TI9tzLD8WQ
keep in mind it's Quill so expect him to spill his spaghetti and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
>>336700036
This. Paradox has been a disgrace lately. Their DLC policy is literally rendering their games unplayable.
They've completely lost track. If you support that, then you're nothing but easily baited sheeple. Its just video games, nothing of value is lost if you don't have it.
>>336700307
>Their DLC policy is literally rendering their games unplayable.
has it? which ones?
>>336694161
>>336693976
Amplitude is based as fuck
Their games have some questionable design sometimes but their UIs, lore, worlds, atmosphere, and music are always top notch
>>336700307
>Their DLC policy is literally rendering their games unplayable.
I've played every PDX game 2010
you're retarded
This game is gonna be so shitty it will be banned from /gsg/.
>>336700307
Lum game when?
>>336700307
maybe they will continue with the bullshit later on. the extra stuff from nova edition and galaxy edition is completely inconsequential though
>>336700168
Same here
Why is everyone watching LotGH all of a sudden?
It's so good
>>336700510
Man, you made some great points to support your polarising claim, anon. Please stop making this site worse with bad bait.
>>336700379
i hope they keep making money so we can eventually get an endless rpg of some kind. i love the endless universe.
All people who defend Paradox DLC garbage and broken games at release are swede cucks.
>>336700510
Video games discussion is already banned from /gsg/ so it's not like it will matter much.
>>336700307
I wasn't going to pirate it, but i can't say no to lum.
>>336700510
>banned from /gsg/
what about the bad things?
>>336700379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCAt0AmNNTE
>>336700605
I just pre-ordered 15 Stellaris'.
Who is going to match me?
>>336700747
Superior comfy song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_NK86hE-Ds
>>336700307
>>336700605
>>336700510
/gsg/ pls go, this is an autism free zone
>>336700834
I just shat brown liquid
>>336700605
just preordered ;)
Paradox is so terrible at art even Stardock outdoes them.
>>336700510
/gsg/ is just a containment board for autists who have an inferiority complex towards the /twg/ ubermesnch
>>336700978
/twg/ is pretty great
>>336700964
too bad GC3 is dogshit
>>336701040
the only issue with /twg/ is that the resident sand niggers get easily upset
>>336666252
Meh. Distant Worlds already exists and is leagues better than anything Paradicks has ever shit out.
Post yfw you start using jump tech and end up ripping a hole in your dimension out of which unspeakable horrors emerge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJhGK4IFOg
I wanted to make the Rakata but I have no idea what their government type was, so I just went with Divine Mandate to reach the 100% alien slavery threshold. Also I really wish you could have more than 4 traits.
>>336701040
>>336700978
civ4Xg was best;_;
>>336701209
Shame the UI is pure anus
>>336699926is that a referece to battleship galactica?
Who /Aurora/ here?
>>336701209
I just couldn't get over the Windows 95 interface
>>336701359
is there any game that beats this for autism? Besides military simulators
>inb4 DF
>>336701359
Is that like a harder Stars!?
>>336701468
DF is more complex but easier to use, I think
Aurora is max autism and I love it
>tfw designing your own ships using components that you also designed and researched
>naming them cool things and sending them out to purge xenos
>>336701603
not to mention making your own medals and awarding them for anyone for any reason at all
but personally I am more in love with the game letting me go completely nuts with bureaucracy
>>336701254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe7--OHTacM
THERE'S NO SUPERIORITY
LIKE ORBITAL SUPERIORITY
>>336701359
>>336701607
>>336702059
this is some next level autism
>>336702486
Resilient? Really?
>>336701254
It's ok, I'll just churn out waves upon waves of self-aware robot workers to fight off the interdimentional hordes, what's the worst that can happen.
>>336702571
Human ship in Halo are so good.
Essentially MAC guns with engines strapped to them.
>>336702079
>iron savior
>>336702679
Autism is insufficient word to describe this game, anon.
>>336701353
it's just one of the possible futures for sol, in that particular one earth became a tomb world which is uninhabitable for pretty much everyone but was covered in a species of giant mutated cockroaches who had an affinity with the tomb world. The player decided to elevated them to a star faring civilization so he could use them as population in his empire to colonize everything.
it's just one of the many possibilities for sol, you can find humans in the bronze age, or they can be a space faring civilization even. they might also be a fallen empire for all I know
>>336699926
I want to see Sol IV be terraformed with JOHJ niggers running around
I dont mind about dlc, I buy the game and pirate all the dlcs
>>336702707
They're mollusks, I got the impression they had a tough exoskeleton so it kinda made sense. I also would have included Weak, but there isn't a good two point ability that made sense to balance it.
>>336703094
Physics affinity? They reverse engineer that Ur-Quan slave shield in like, one year or something.
>>336702679
Yeah but it's fun as fuck, don't knock it til you try it
>>336703225
That could work, or Rapid Breeders based on family size. Resilient also tied into their desire for safety and defensive design.
I kinda wish you could include a few more traits for races. A hard cap of 4 feels very limiting.
FREEDOM
>>336703692
>implying America isn't actually a plutocratic oligarchy
>>336703521
Honestly it was probably just a shitty translator who doesn't understand Japanese grammar. It should probably be "It's very fun."
Better hope there are no moons
>>336695106
As someone who intends to play one of the Europa Universalis games, why should I stay away from them?
>Military Dictatorship
>Can build oversized spaceship
Yes please
>>336703482
i'd rather play something with graphics
What's the point of oligarchies and democracies, autocracies seem so much better
>>336701274
Hey, we can probably use the Stellaris launch hype to start it back up again.
>>336704301
Pirate, you might like it. I started hating it because every forced update brought new and more stupid mechanics to the game.
>>336704528
you can read the bonuses and find out
>>336704528
Elections give mandates which if you complete you get some easy influence to spend on edicts and shit.
>>336704528
Democracies have frequent (oligarchies infrequent) elections. This allows your leader to change frequently too, giving you more variability in your bonuses. Plus there are some mini-goals (election promises) to try and achieve too.
Autocracies last until death of leader.
So does anyone know what the oversized ship, oversize space station and elite assault army actually do?
How much will the full game cost in 5 years? Civ V costed at least $3000 with all the DLC expansion shit
>>336705127
Presumably, they're a special unit slightly better than the defaults.
>>336704528
Ability to change leaders if you want to use new bonuses, or keep the same leader in power if you want to stay the course. They also just give different bonuses. Divine Mandate lets you build a mausoleum that takes up a planet slot to give -10% ethics divergence to that one planet, or you can just be a Theocratic Oligarchy and have that bonus across your entire empire inherently.
Yeah maybe in 2 years when all the dlc is out
>>336705217
Civ V had only two relevant pieces of DLC (expansions)
>>336691227
I can see volcanic worlds being a common enough request that they release them at some point.
What's an optimal fast expansion rape everything build?
So what will the bigger expansions be? I assume nomadic fleet empires are given, maybe a military revamp of the military to make ships more customization and armies less simplistic, and possibly an AI controlled private economy like in Distant Worlds because at the moment it seems pretty simplistic.
>>336706480
Where you solve the universe and your civilization realizes it's just a computer simulation.
>>336691227
>>336705976
They didn't really rock the boat in terms of planet variety. Pity when compared to the planets in Endless Space for example. Definitely an area for expansion.
>>336706480
Maybe the ability to upload your citizens consciousness into a hive mind and other wacky government types
>>336706332
who the fuck knows
>>336706480
Espionage at some point. Feels like a huge gaping hole in the gameplay based on the streams. Assassinate leaders, learn ship designs of your enemy to counter, change population ethics or incite revolution, release bio-weapons to kill pops, blow up ships/stations/buildings, steal research, blame sabotage on other factions, all sorts of stuff you could do.
>>336706480
Giant robots.
>>336707095
Now i wonder, what is a game where i can go
>absolutely subversive.jpg
?
>>336706480
Land based warfare I'm guessing. Additional stuff to do during peace time. More diplomacy and alliance options, additional types of federations. More internal politics?
>>336666572
This just sounds like Endless Space.Please god let it be better than endless space, it gets so boring after a while
>Space Jews
Kek. That's what I referred to them as when I was watching LoGH.
>>336707663
>>336707909
>>336694627
>THE TYRANIDS HUMANITY IS FIGHTING ARE A FUCKING SCOUT LEGION.
Welp, might as well turn all humans into necrons since they are their antithesis.
>>336707334
I dunno if there's a better game, there probably is, but Star Wars: Rebellion is the game I can think of with the highest amount of stealth/counter-stealth gameplay. Always trying to discover ship and troop movements and where bases are being built, keep track of enemy leaders and spies to figure out what they are doing, blowing up ships and construction facilities with commando teams and kidnapping leaders to hide on prison ships flying around the outer rim, trying to incite enemy planets to rebel to force your enemy to commit diplomats or troops to suppress them, all sorts of stuff. It's pretty old so you have to be used to old game clunkiness, but it's on GoG and has the most in-depth stealth gameplay I can think of in a strategy game.
>>336666252
No, it's a Paradox game, and Paradox devs don't know how to make gameplay.
They should be integrated into Microsoft under the Paint division.
I just want to play a race of people that learn how to make clones through bio engineering which ends up leading to the ability to modify individual genes. Then through tons of iterations make living ships which leads to in space queens that birth new ships and colonize asteroid belts. Willing to defend themselves but not aggressive.
Can I do that in this game?
>>336666345
Paradox's new Grand Strategy with blended in 4x elements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Huuacl6oqI
I think I might try playing as crab people.
>>336675008
I don't know what core sector planets means for direct democracy, but okay
>>336706480
>nomadic fleet empires
>>336694627
so is there anyway the nids don't wipe out all life in the galaxy?
>>336710410
Space Huns please go
>>336710509
Necrons can fuck em up good
Necrons are the strongest 40K race
>>336710509
If the Emperor gets reborn and unfucks the galaxy
No its a /gsg/ not a 4x
>>336677054
>dictatorship of hodor
>>336710332
planets under your direct control, any more after that needs to be relegated to semi-autonomous sectors.
>>336710332
You can only personally manage a certain number of planets at a time. If you go over the control limit you start to take increasing debuffs based on how many planets. You can instead lump these planets over your limit into sectors controlled by the AI, who builds and manages populations there based on general orders you can give. Increasing the core sector planets is increasing the number of planets you can personally control.
>>336710509
A nid force enters ork space leading to the biggest WAAAGH!!! And the baddest ass warboss of all time.
>>336710509
No, but 40k writes itself into a corner all the time
>>336710974
>>336711028
Gotcha. So it's actually not that bad combined with my decision to do rapid breeders?
Looking through this thread it seems /v/ is full of despots and theocrats, not democrats
>muh democracy
>>336710974
>>336711028
So pretty much like demesne in CK2 then
>>336702719
>Humanity starting the dark ages.
>>336706480
Already mentioned superstructures/megaweapons. Definitely hope to see something resembling Iserlohn before that finally happens
If I can't camp one planet and make everyone else kill each other then it's a 2/10 from me.
>>336683843
>>336683528
It assumes you're consistent with your beliefs.
>right wing American christians
>whine about "sanctity of life" with respect to abortions
>go on to vote for neoconservative politicians who bomb the shit out of other countries for muh democracy
>"sanctity of life"
Spiritualists, who believe that there's some sort of human soul, should rigidly believe that life is precious.
>>336713612
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrusadesD E U S
V U L T
>>336714007
>It assumes you're consistent with your beliefs
Crusaders were hypocrites
>>336713454
Has paradox mentioned if this game will have any superweapons at all? Can I at least turn planets surface into glass killing of the entire biosphere and the xeno scum?
I would prefer to be able to destroy planets or even stars, but that might be too much to ask.
>>336715220
I think they mentioned a planet destroying weapon at one point
>>336715429
nothing personnel, kid
>tfw you can finally play a game where you can be the Reich and purge the rebels
I have waited for a game that could play LoGH for years
Apparently the w40k crowd is also very hyped
>>336715804
I certainly am.
>>336715804
can't wait
>>336667042
The Mandate
Although who knows when :(
>>336717052
SEIG MEIN KAISER
SEIG KAISER REINHARD
Can you share custom Empires with people? That should be a thing.
What government type would best reflect the Lohengramm Dynasty? I want to go Military Dictatorship and make my oversized ship the Brunhilde. Anyone know if you start with an oversized ship?
>>336672176
>I goose
Is this turn based or real time?
>>336675008
Space Nazis
>>336718935
Real time but pausable
>>336718340
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Government_types
The Advanced Government type Martial Empire can build something called Oversized Ship
>>336709605
Anyone? Can I do this?
Please! I just.... I want to be able to play as a gigantic ageless space whale that floats through space for eternity.
>>336709605
>cloning
Might be
>genetic modifications
Yes
>bio ships
Yes
>colonize asteroids
No
>>336670973
SHould I play SotS 1 or 2?
Are we gonna make some neat multiplayer games when this comes out?
I'm not used in playing multiplayer gsg, but I'm quite hyped for this one.
>>336720729
best to play mutltiplayer on release
after a month everyone begins cheesing their builds and glitching the mechanics
>>336720479
I'll take it! Close enough!
How much genocide can I commit?
>>336721018
You can't outright genocide
You can however "displace" native populace
>>336721170
>You can't outright genocide
>>336721170
So like a space trail of tears?
>>336721170
But that's wrong, there's literally a "purge" button
>>336721170
Fucking Swedes, quasi and outright genocidal policies have existed since forever.
Their games should reflect reality.
>>336721467
Oh
I thought the devs said they were against genocide
>>336721170
>>336721350
You have a purge button fuckface, genociding is in.
>>336721018
you can purge pops, but certain fallen empires might get pissed at you and intervene
>>336721543
You can be against something and still write or make media about it
Not every holocaust documentary is a how-to guide. Most of them aren't, even.
>>336721543
yeah purging brings ufckhuge penalties to your own species happiness and everyone trys to gank you because "muh genociders" (why does your own species get upset about genocide ffs?)
it's pretty much just for rp value
>>336721503
That guy's wrong, there are genocides
>>336721664
>certain fallen empires might get pissed at you and intervene
>>336721793
Your own species does not get upset if you are xenophobes.
Steam board section for that game is kinda funny.
For example, 350 replies thread about how DLCs are good and that they are totally worth the price. And how they are okay, because "you dont have to buy them".
>>336721793
It's useful if some shit tier species with bad traits starts growing on one of your worlds.
>>336721907
Take off the name and then we'll talk to you
>>336721907
The EUIV crowd got pretty mad at the last 2 DLC
>>336721543
They literalyl said that the only reason they don't have holocaust stuff in HoI is because it's irrelevent to the war and that's what the game is about. If someone provided solid evidence that it was a big deal to the military affairs they'd put it in.
>>336722067
Which is true, a Holocaust button would add literally nothing to the gameplay
>>336722125
Funnily enough, a friend of mine actually wanted to do his thesis on if the holocaust's logistics actually had an impact onto the war.
He was told he couldn't do it because he can't speak german or russian and thus couldn't get any sources.
>>336722364
That's a shame, I'd be interested to read that paper
I absolutely love history
>>336675008
I can't wait to enslave xenos and force them to be shock troops
>>336722023
What they were about? Im kinda curious.
Recolored flags or something?
>>336722364
Those people were correct though. If you can't read original documents, you have to rely on translations and interpretations that have gone through some pretty amazing ideological filtering.
>>336722925
Take the name off
There's no reason for you to have a name
>>336720957
Clone armies are confirmed in, just like slave, android, robot, xenomorph, psionic and gene modified armies.
Robot armies become risky as shit if you make true AI though.
Jesus, man.
I hope we get to run into machine empires
>>336723239
>clone armies
YES
YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS
>>336723268
>AI rebellion
I'm assuming it's kinda like one of those apocalypse events - You go full science and start building loads of robot pops and being relaxed with AI regulation laws. Then the robots become Skynet and kill everyone.
>>336723239
what about clone populace though?
Like, I want my factories to be manned by clones of the best worker of the year.
>>336723268
>Ruler titled as emperor
>>336723268
None spawn initially, otherwise they would be too powerful. They only arise when you research AI and it subsequently rebels. Note that other empires can research AI as well, so someone's fuckup can become a galactic problem
>>336723803
Keep in mind, AI overlordship is one of the late government styles you can unlock through research, so it may be possible to simply embrace the inevitable and let Skynet take over your empire without bloodshed.
>>336723550
Pretty much.
Also keep in mind there are Fallen Empire that are like "Guardians of Technology" meaning if they see you researching stuff that could destroy the galaxy they can and will fuck your shit up
>>336672176
>I goose this is where you die.
>>336723593
They have not commented on it, but considering we already know we can have slave, android, robot etc pops, chances are that we need a clone population to actually have clone armies. Cant really say for sure though.
Here is link for what we know about pops:
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Population
What needs to be saved? 4X is fucking brilliant.
Endless Space, Endless Legend, Galac Civ 3. All those have been fantastic and those are the ones I bought recently. Endless Legend is especially good.
>I bought Galaxy Edition
>I need to sign up for Paradox Account to use the epeen and get my name into space
>I was going to say "Fuck you aliens! Love /v/ and /tg/"
is there a console like other paradox games? i just want to cheat like a madman
So is there land based combat in this game or is it all done on ships?
>>336724658
Most likely. If the game was out I'd checkUnless the game is out, I've not checked
reminds me of star control,
i cant fucking wait for this and i only discovered it yesterday. (scott manley)
i hope you can do really advanced shit like enlighten unga bungas on other plants and take them under your wing to aid you in your quest for science (or pretend you are their god)
>>336715220
Someone on the stream asked about it during a Blorg stream and they said no planet destroying weapons at release, but that it was something to consider for the future (So DLC probably).
>>336724698
There's different types of infantry you can have so yes, but it's not as deep as space combat from what I hear.
>>336724952
Yep, you can do basically every sci-fi trope from the perspective of the aliens
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads%2Fstellaris-dev-diary-13-primitive-civilizations.897491%2F
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-14-uplifting-and-subspecies.898648/
>>336724429
Interesting....
So, slightly related...
The trait fanatical collectivism. Does that slavery thing mean they like being taken over by xenos? Or does that apply only when their own race does it to them? Cause there is another trait that modifies xeno slavery i saw.
The Weavers of Truth are an anthropoid race of spider-like beings who collectively believe in a prophecy foretelling of the coming age of Psionics. They believe the Psions are the chosen ones who will usher in a never-ending age of enlightenment and that the Qi'xthra shall achieve transcendence by following them. As such, they are obsessed with Psi, and with the mysterious substance known as Zro, for it is known to enhance psi abilities greatly. They believe those born without the gift, the so-called "mindless ones" are fit to be treated as little more than cattle, livestock to serve as slaves committed to manual labor or shock troops in battle.
Think Navigator's Guild from Dune, but anthropomorphic spiders instead of slugs, fanatically religious about the Golden Path and the spice melange, and dependent upon a robust slave economy to maintain their empire.
>go to play EU4 to rev up to this
>had most of the DLC bought too
>load it up
>mymindisfulloffuck.jpg
I had no idea what I was doing and I struggled on Ironman as it was. Now it's bad. I might just load up non-Ironman and cheat until I learn it all again. But I noticed you can't make SUPER RAPE MACHINES Poland now either.
>>336725092
shiieettt,
i wonder if you can pull an Ur-quan and become the slave overlord of the galaxy and have everyone do their fighting for you or face annihilation
>>336666252
why does it need saving when i can fire up Master of Orion 2 whenever I want
no space 4x game has ever come close to touching it
>>336675008
I for one welcome our immortal god emperor.
So I was trying to make the Federation from Starship Troopers, the Military Republic government is basically them to a T, but I don't really know what traits to give them. Talented seemed like the best pick given how the government is suppose to promote better leaders through harsh discipline, but I don't know if any others fit.
>>336725092
>Covert Infiltration
>This is an interesting one. Essentially, agents that have been surgically altered to resemble individuals from a primitive species are sent to infiltrate their society. Political and military leaders are gradually replaced, until a point is reached where the primitives can be made to willingly accept an offer of annexation. This spares the need of a messy ground invasion, but more importantly, the primitives will be more positively inclined towards their new overlords, since they are living under the illusion that they accepted their rule willingly.
Ayy we XCOM now
>>336725405
Endless Space and Galactic Civ 2 + 3 are great for me.
>>336725140
It means that they are much more accepting of having slavery of any kind in their empire, does not matter the species. Collectivist ethos is all about everyone being a cog in the machinery, the wellbeing of all over the wellbeing for the individuals.
Xenophobic give acceptance for slavery of everyone that is not your species, but no tolerance for enslaving any of your own.
Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WQOGVLLGw
>tfw no Planet Cracker to go around with being a huge douche and committing cosmic genocide with
>>336725570
I'm using this and going for the full Jew experience
Ant Empire for the win!
Queen using the own populace as slave labour!
Loves meeting new and interesting races cause most ants are boring 'individuals' with no personality!
>>336725606
>-3
>+1
nigga what?
SERVICE
GUARANTEES
CITIZENSHIP
>>336725092
>Once you unlock genetic modification your pops may start genetically modifying themselves by their own volition, which can result in a civil war between different subspecies of your empire.
>>336720703
Avoid 2 like it was poison. They made terrible design decisions and overall it was a huge step back.
Get 1 with all the expansions for a great time, I have over 600 hours in SotS and a little under 6 in SotS 2.
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>>336725071
Nice nice... Reinhard approves it 100%
>>336671727
This one gradually ramps up the GS elements as the game progresses and plays more like a 4x in the beginning. If you suck at GS and want to get better this looks like a winner.
Can i make the Golden Horde in space?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuELLd3Ec4U The soundtrack is fantastic. It really has a Mass Effect feeling to it.
>>336725484
I'd remove Talented and pick Conformists + Resilient instead, as a military republic you'll have tons of good generals to choose as leaders.
>>336725606
So you're intentionaly nerfing yourself by going -3 in negative traits and then +1 in positive
Looking at the ethos choices I kind of wish there was an technologist/luddite axis. I know they intended for Materialist/Spiritualist to kind of fulfill that role, but it doesn't work since those are a stance on the nature of the universe not really technology. I want to play as a technology and religion oriented empire so that I can be the Adeptus Mechanicus.
>>336726632
Sounds good but I think the issue there is that I have to pick a negative trait have enough points for both. Maybe non-adaptive is a good negative option?
>>336726986
Luddites wouldn't be space-faring empires though, would they?
Materialist/spiritualist does actually have an effect on technology though, supposedly there are different technologies that are exclusive to either branch. The spiritualists for example are apparently able to develop psychic powers and use technology based on that, like founding a Navigators Guild that allows them to improve their FTL travel using psykers.
>>336727404
>Luddites wouldn't be space-faring empires though, would they?
Not necessarily, I was thinking more along the lines of it being their specific stance on science and technology, do they view science with caution, suspicion, or maybe fear, of do they embrace it with abandon and seek out knowledge whatever the consequences?
Materialist/Spiritualist is more a stance on the nature of the universe. Is the universe just what we can see and observe or is the some greater part of it that is explainable by science? It's not a statement on science and technology itself.
Come to think of it, I'd also maybe like a Purist or Transhuman trait or ethic that makes it so that you pops either despise or embrace gene mods/cybernetics.
>>336728715
>Materialist/Spiritualist is more a stance on the nature of the universe. Is the universe just what we can see and observe or is the some greater part of it that is explainable by science? It's not a statement on science and technology itself.
If you view their descriptions as about technology itself, you kind of can interpret it as machine-cult vs machine understanding.
