Team Fortress 2 vs Overwatch
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Which is better, lads?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10140768
>>336663340
http://www.strawpoll.me/10140780
>>336663340
Both are trash. Worse than assfaggots.
>>336663340
they aren't really that comparable Honestly.
TF2 is at it's core, an FPS game. The original Concept for TF in general was Quake with classes.
Overwatch is more or less like a MOBA boiled down to it's core (huge variety of heros with unique abilities in a theme setting) and then polished to be more like games like Smite.
But if you were to compare the two, TF2 would surely win, simply because it's a source game, meaning it's fully moddable and has a huge community that creates free content for it 24/7 (maps, reskins, Source Filmmaker Short Films, etc)
this is just a personal preference for me, but unless Overwatch offers this much as well, TF2 will always be better
TF2
Overwatch because waifus and more unique characters.
I choose waifus the game
>>336663340
Vanilla TF2 is better than Overwatch.
Overwatch is better than modern TF2.
>>336663340
Prime TF2 >>> Overwatch
Modern TF2 = Overwatch
>>336663340
>blizzcucks needs games to be worse than thiers to make them selves feel better
Wew lad grow up.
If you are that insecure about your shit game don't buy it
>>336664857
/thread
>>336663631
>>336663340
One isn't fucking out yet, one has been out for, what, 10 years or so with moderately consistent updates.
How is that even remotely a fair or sensible comparison?
>>336664857
>Overwatch is better than modern TF2.
If you put the cosmetics and shitty playerbase aside, modern TF2 still has decent gameplay, even if it's been diluted with shitloads of new weapons.
Overwatch doesn't even have that
>>336663631
You know that TF2 came out in 2007, right? It is currently 2016. Overwatch is still a few weeks from launching. How the flying fuck would it already have tons of updated, mods, and community made content? How?
>>336665330
I disagree with your opinion.
>>336665115
>>336665489
>I'm literally retarded
Blizzard. It's Blizzard making it. When was the last time Blizzard had mods for their games?
Diablo 2/WoW/WC3, take your pick. That's when.
>>336665732
Starcraft 2 actually of which the latest episode was their last release
>>336663631
yeah heros/classes have abilities and cooldowns but so did tf2 with jarate cooldown and the ice pick. overwatch just turn the unique stuff and cooldowns up to 10
>I jave autism, the thread
Anyone that says TF2 is better than Overwatch is either or both
a) meme hater cause Blizzjews xd
b) 15 year old and discovered TF2
c) Didn't even play it but i liked TF2
>>336663631
Thanks you for the only reasonable post in this thread
>Asking valve drone central if something is better than TF2
Lmao
One is a game with a careful amount of its pull being weighted behind a well-designed artstyle, the other is a Blizzard game.
TF2 doesn't revolve around cooldowns, its map design is much better, the classes are faster by default.
Overwatch is more recent, some classes have good vertical mobility (but the poorly designed maps don't use it very much) and looks better.
TF2 wins imo. Spy is so much more fun and comfy than the retarded grim reaper that moves very awkwardly.
>>336665823
>Playing autoaim, the glacier moving simulator
Literally 3 fast character in the whole game and they suck shit as primary combat classes
>>336664895
this
>>336665115
Simple you can compare them at release time.
And vanilla Tf2 was god tier.
>>336663340
Let me get this shit straight, Overwatch and TF2 are both fun games but Overwatch being an upgrade/improvement to TF2? Now that's some bullshit soup served cold. Especially on the price. Overwatch does not deserve $40. Shit's reasonable around $20-30.
In TF2, all weapons has that "feeling" of actually using a weapon. Overwatch's weapon doesn't feel like your actually using a weapon. I can't pinpoint on what to be exact but Overwatch's weapons feels shallow overall.
In Overwatch, almost everyone and their mother has some sort of barrier and/or heal dedicated button. That shit's neat and all but there are some characters that can go better if they have something else instead of a barrier and/or heal.
TF2 has custom maps and servers. Overwatch does not.
TF2 can support more than 12 players per server/map. Overwatch does not. It's kind of a personal thing but for what it is, I enjoy FPS games more when it can support more than 12 players.
TF2 characters are, surprisingly, more memorable and quotable then majority, hell even all of the casts in Overwatch. I find a drunk one-eyed Scottish black man more memorable then some girl who was a pro player (like seriously what) and a dwarf that I had high hopes of being a badass.
TF2 has more reasonable things/consequences/etc then in Overwatch. For example, every single character in TF2 has limited ammo. Overwatch does not. The heavy requires to sacrifice his shotgun for an item to give him some HP boosts. Overwatch's characters doesn't have to sacrifice that much to get HP.
Once again, Overwatch is a fun game, but I just really find TF2 to be more enjoyable.
https://youtu.be/o6Gu0PSgq6s
Compared to
https://youtu.be/bzZ6GrRTgrM
>TF2
Developer has no interest in makign games and only update games at the last possible moment before even the fanboys have had enough
>Overwatch
Developer still makes games and updates them frequently
gee iunno.
>more than 40% of /v/ is neo/v/ redditor cancer
>>336667137
>TF2
Completely free with a fuck-ton of comtent
>Overwatch
Blatant TF2 copypaste that costs $60 and will probably jew you for more
The choice is easy. Only a retard would pay $60 for a literal copypaste job when you can get the original completely for free.
>>336667137
>Developer still makes games
*shit games
very important
>>336667229
You mean
>more than 40% of this is on Blizzard payroll
Only a retard would rate a copypaste job higher than its free original equivalent.
both shit
both babbys first shooter
both party-time games with no balance
but to be fair, all modern shooters are like this now. fuck videogames
>>336667437
>muh balance
Literally babby's first complaint upon realizing they're shit at the game.
>>336667253
>being so poor you actually enjoy playing with underage Russians
TF2 till sniper v spy >>>> TF2 till F2P > Overwatch >>> Modern TF2
I have over 6000 hours in TF2 and fuck that game. Its a shell of its former self. Overwatch is promising but it is nowhere near as charming and slick as TF2 was when it first came out. But who knows, it may get better with updates.
>>336667437
TF2 is not a modern shooter. It's 10 years old.
>>336667437
at some point you gotta let go, gramps.
>>336667737
>being a retard and wasting $60 on a copypaste clone when you can play the original for free
TF2 is better in almost every single way. The only thing Overwatch has over it is that there's more counters to bullshit tactics like Pharah players jumping on a building and spamming rockets. Otherwise, the gameplay doesn't have a lot of depth and every character is a blatant ripoff or a bland archetype that does nothing new, and every one of them is devoid of any personality.
>>336668007
you speak as if TF2 invented anything. It has an awesome style but the core mechanics of the classes are all archetypes and nothing new... save for the bullshit they added with updates such and melee demos and dead ringer spies.
Can someone tell me why I would waste $60 on a more brain-dead version of TF2 when I can play TF2 for free?
>>336668096
TF2 had better designed and more recognizable characters and archetypes, and it had a nice, cohesive artstyle (Until hats, of course). Everyone looked like they belonged to the same game. Everyone in Overwatch look like they were taken from different games and put in the same game.
>>336668163
There's no reason. I played it in beta and it's somewhat fun, but I wouldn't drop even 30 dollars on it. If it were on steam, I'd buy it on a sale for 15 dollarydoos.
Overwatch just needs:
>Faster movement for everyone (except Tracer)
>Dedicated servers (no idea if they've announced this)
>Mod support
And it would probably be a great game. It'd also be nice if Genji's melee actually did any worthwhile damage.
>>336668328
How many Blizzard shekels were just deposited into your paypal account?
>that poll
BLIZZSHIT SHILLS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>336668709
None, I even voted for TF2 in the poll. It's still a good game though.
>>336663340
I like them both
>>336667073
You'd get reported in Blizzard's games if you were to write even 1/10th of the tf2 characters's taunting lines.
This is the plague of modern online gaming, they're full of thin skinned carebears who are so fucking retarded they can't even get some distance
>>336663340
tf2
>>336669545
Overwatch is a safe space for SJWs basically.
>>336669807
But itsfun!
>TF2 remake for the COD/HALO generation
>>336669807
This is not sjw related at all, stop shitting yourself with that boogeyman crap
>>336670119
Yes.
Those are not mutually exclusive things.
>>336663340
http://www.strawpoll.me/10141606/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/10141606/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/10141606/r
>>336669807
Kill yourself
>>336667137
Blizzard haven't made anything good for years. They've been milking their fanBase more than valve if anything.
>>336663340
When TF2 came out it was better. Current day TF2 is unplayable.
>>336663631
Overwatch is not a fucking moba you retard, if you want to see what fps moba looks like go play battleborn
Team Fortress 2 on the consoles is better than Overwatch on PC
>>336671821
>>336670165
>b-boogeyman
>k-kill yourself
why do sjw always reply with the exact same words whenever they feel cornered?
>>336672282
It's not
What the fuck is with all of these shitty ass games coming out trying to be the next TF2.
>>336673590
>stuttering
>muh sjw
Oh the irony.
I like both. TF2 is far better in every way though. Anyone who has played both for any significant amount of time will come to this conclusion.
There are SJWs on TF2?
Why would anyone vote Overwatch?
>>336665115
>they aren't really that comparable
>But if you were to compare
>hurr how is that a fair comparison durr
>>336663340
It's hard to say as one isn't even out of the gate yet and the other has been degrading over years, if you're saying compare both at the start, TF2 would win hands down in my opinion but compared to TF2 now, I'd give more favor to overwatch
>>336663631
>Overwatch is a moba
Fucking
Stop
I've barely played either (I only fucked around in trade servers in TF2) but Overwatch has been more enjoyable from the limited time I've spent with it.
I have to admit it feels simpler/easier and that's a contributor. OW might become more popular with the mass casual audience than TF2.
>>336663340
single player games
6v6 on small maps is just as fun as I anticipated.It isn't.
>>336676162
he didn't say overwatch is a moba
he said it's like a moba + [insert other qualities]
>>336675992
>TF2 would win hands down in my opinion
Can't understand why. It was and still is incredibly bland.
>>336672282
Current TF2's gameplay is fine in theory, but the playerbase and graphics have gone to complete shit.
>>336676414
In what way is it a moba? Is it the player abilities? Because that's not what defines a moba at all.
>>336663631
>>336664895
Objective truth
>>336676162
>moba ults
>moba ability
>only thing missing are creeps
>n-not a moba
a game with 8 characters has more lines of dialogue than a game with 21 characters, why is this allowed?
>>336676162
MOBA is a vague as fuck term, enjoy
>>336676515
>Because that's not what defines a moba at all.
MOBA means "Multiplayer online battle arena". That description could be applied for almost any multiplayer game of any genre.
People just use this word for games like Dota or LoL.
The amount of shilling Overwatch gets on here is making me mighty suspicious. Show yourself Blizzard.
2007 tf2>overwatch>2016 tf2
>>336677069
>wah hats ruin gameplay
>>336676742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzZ6GrRTgrM
What are you going to cry? YOU GOING TO CRY NOW?
>>336676626
>Has cooldown abilities
>Has nothing else which is a defining trait of all MOBAs
>"B-B-But it's just like a MOBA guys!"
The game is literally TF2 with more character and abilities.
What's this talk about modern tf2 being worse than old tf2?
- No unlockable weapons are overpowered. They added variety to the game and stock weapons are still great.
- Game was balanced and improved several times.
- Cosmetics are optional and don't influence gameplay. Don't be a retard.
>>336677351
It's pretty much entirely because the game is almost entirely populated by Russian children and retards who care more about cosmetics/trading/"im friendly"ing than playing the game
>>336677351
>no unlockable weapons are overpowered
Depends on the context. If we're talking competitive 6's or something, things like the GRU are banned since they give the Heavy as much mobility as most other classes, removing the whole "Heavy is slow" downside and slowing down the game dramatically as the team can just stall mid.
In pubs though, yeah it doesn't fucking matter.
>>336672345
What's the difference between Overwatch and Battleborn
>>336677351
People say that hats ruin the game even tho there's mod's that remove all cosmetics from the game. They also like to whine about dead ringer, direct hit, and demo knight. Typical shitter complaints really. Demo knight is easy as fuck to counter, DR is fine now, and direct hit mostly requires skill
>>336663340
I am pretty sure that Overwatch is this month's Brink. Enjoy your flavor of the month FPS.
TF2 has a bunch of classes with great synergy between them, you're playing as part of a team.
Overwatch is just a clusterfuck of special snowflakes and "LOOK HOW FLASHY MY ABILITY IS".
Both have absolutely horrid communities that ruin both games entirely. You'll be happier doing literally anything else.
>>336677102
Not him, but the lack of quality control for weapons is what ruined the game for me. Once Valve went full lazy and just started throwing in user-made weapons by the handful, the game went to trash.
Overwatch will never have god tier stuff like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36lSzUMBJnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4N5OhcY9s
>>336677153
I think they went the wrong way about it when they added the domination lines. It made sense for the Scout to be a complete asshole but then they applied it to everybody else. It was kind of jarring when the Spy started shouting and insulting people as it seemed contrary to how the character was portrayed in stock voicefiles.
@336677859
I see you've given up because I blew your """"argument"""" the fuck out, thanks for the extra (You) though.
>>336676946
So TF2 is a moba?
>>336667052
Nice pasta.
>>336677746
>Meet the Spy and Meet the Medic were so good
>fun seeing class interaction, nine run-time and good display of character ability
>followed by Meme the Pyro
why did they drop the ball so hard?
>>336677779
The spy is an arrogant prick. How does it not make sense?
>>336677779
The whole point is that they're all assholes that are only doing it for the money/locked in a contract. They aren't all butt buddies like over watch, it's like a bunch of best friend making fun of each other really, kind of like here
TF2 is way better than Overwatch desu
>>336677929
>@
>HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHSHHAHAHAHAHHSGAHAHAHAHHSHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
You're so fucking dumb I'm going to leak this picture of you for everyone to see
>>336678159
WHERE'D YOU FIND A PICTURE OF ME DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
>TF2 thread
>lol dead game
>it was better before hats
>unbalanced as fuck
>Overwatch thread
>lol I'll stick to TF2 thanks
>dead on arrival
Another (You) for my collection. Keep 'em coming.
>>336677308
>The game is literally TF2 with more character and abilities.
this game takes TF2 characters and cuts them into smaller, shittier characters, while slapping a big "i win" button onto some of them.
TF2 characters design beats overwatch to pulp, both aestheticaly and from gameplay standpoint.
>>336678159
delete this
>>336678159
don't fucking dox you faggot
TF2 vanilla > TF2 with new weapons > Overwatch > Hat Fortress 2 > F2P Fortress 2
>>336678246
Whose ultimate is a i win button
>>336678159
dude what the fuck, i never even posted to you why are you posting a pic of me omg why
>noobs were getting rekt by better players 100% of times in arena shooters
>noobs could get an occasional kill or two against better players in counter-strike games
>noobs now can reliably kill better players in overwatch every time their ultimate is charged.
What's the difference between Overwatch and Battleborn? How is Battleborn a moba and Overwatch an FPS?
>>336678624
Creeps, towers, in-match leveling
>>336678042
The Spy was depicted as being a bit more suave in his original (limited) charactersation, since the Spy update he comes across as more boorish in his delivery. What I'm saying is, a lot of people didn't expect his domination lines to be so tactless.
>>336678624
Overwatch has higher marketing budget thats why it's shilled here non stop.
>>336678547
>reliably
Ultimates really aren't that powerful outside of their premise, the exception being Widowmaker's which is just fucking retarded.
>yell out IT'S HIIIIIGH NOON
>take 2 seconds to lock on to someone while walking really slow and glowing red
>countered by any sort of shield or line of sight, at worst a genji deflects the shot back onto you
>I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS
>can still be stunned
>tanks can still face off with him if they're quick
>alternatively just LoS him
>DIE DIE DIE
>if you let him get into a position to use this effectively without noticing, you probably would have been killed by him anyway
The game is unbalanced, but not because you were too fucking stupid to walk behind a wall when you heard an obvious audio cue.
>>336678624
Overwatch doesn't have towers creeps, gold based upgrades rpg elements, the only thing it has in common with mobas is abilitities on cool down and ultimates, but that shit's been in fighting games before mobas became a thing
>>336678927
so this game is like cod then, chokepoint shootan with "take cover" mechanic being constantly forced upon you?
>>336679000
>the only thing it has in common with mobas is abilitities on cool down and ultimates
Doesn't Destiny have these? They're cancer to the pvp.
>>336679051
Essentially.What's wrong with CoD?
>>336663340
I think they're both fun. Some of you guys are just sad, cynical husks who have such a skewed idea of fun you wouldn't even recognize it if it came up and fucked your mouth.
Anyway, to each their own. I'm going to enjoy Overwatch for the rest of the open beta so I don't have to drop $40 on it. In that regard, that's pretty much Overwatch's only real flaw: exploring everything the game has to show you doesn't take particularly long.
>>336679051
>"take cover" mechanic
What are you smoking?
Overwatch is launching with more maps and characters than TF2 originally had.
Overwatch has beautiful females which is refeshing. TF2 was a sausage fest.
All new maps, modes, and future heros will be free in Overwatch. TF2 never added more characters.
Cosmetic items will be DLC but can still be attained through rng loot boxes after you level up.
Overwatch basically has everything you want.
TF2, Overwatch has is really easy to get into with it's abundance of automatic weapons and generous hitboxes. It'll be a nice distraction but it seems like one of those games that gets less fun the better you get at it.
TF2 is a moba at its core + [insert other qualities]
>>336679139
Cmon man, you nd i both know that overwatch and destiny aer two fundamentally different games
>>336663340
I haven't played Overwatch.
Tf2 shorts and such was funny.
Was okay when I tried playing it.
I fap to Widowmaker a lot though.
>>336679234
Except it has shit gameplay just like tf2
Both games are rubbish
>>336679234
Except good gameplay, good balance and good matchmaking.
But yeah, the porn is good.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10142431
http://www.strawpoll.me/10142431
http://www.strawpoll.me/10142431
Real poll coming through, no meme options
People unironically voted for Overwatch.
It's pure fucking no skill garbage.
TF2 has lasted for almost 10 years with free content. I hope Overwatch does the same. I don't want Overwatch 2 in 2018.
>>336663340
The way I see it, it's a big TF2 update that removes items and moves some weapons to Q, E, Left shift as abilities.
TF2 pre-items was golden.
>>336679537
more skill than tf2
>>336679234
Overwatch has slow droning casual shit gameplay
>>336679234
>Cosmetic items will be DLC but can still be attained through rng loot boxes after you level up.
DLC? For real? That's pretty lame
>>336679280
I was just highlighting that core mechanic is in Destiny too, where they're called Supers. They're shit.
I think even the latest CoD has them.
>>336677746
>meet the medic
>good
>>336679234
>/v/ tells me there are no shills here
>>336679615
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAAHHAAHAHHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHHAHHAAHHA
>>336679615
It really isn't, the hitboxes and slow movement make it real fucking easy
>>336679234
>Overwatch is launching with more maps and characters than TF2 originally had.
Quality > Quantity. A class in TF2 has more charm than half of the classes in overwatch
>Overwatch has beautiful females which is refeshing. TF2 was a sausage fest.
I don't play games with my dick. TF2 characters felt like a brotherhood while Blizzard is trying to get horny teenaged males
>All new maps, modes, and future heros will be free in Overwatch. TF2 never added more characters.
Maps and modes were free in tf2 even if you brought it for $20 at release. TF2 doesn't need new characters, they give tools to the current ones.
>Cosmetic items will be DLC but can still be attained through rng loot boxes after you level up.
I wonder where they got that idea from
>Overwatch basically has everything you want.
Yep, handholding gameplay, instant kill buttons, and taking away my satisfaction
>>336679234
it also has really low skill floor and ceiling, zero space to improve, giving me absolutely no incentive to play it for more than a couple of days of this open beta.
>>336679653
>being naive enough to think there aren't paid shills all over social media/the internet
I gotta say, the amount of naivete I've seen coming from 4chan makes me question the average age that comes here.
>>336679651
Meet the Medic is great you peasant.
i dropped the game on the intro with gorilla scientist, did i miss much?
>>336679965
Not particularly. Unless they start releasing new shit monthly the game has no future beyond six months.
>>336665732
>>336665770
what the fuck are you talking about?
wow has fucktons playermade UI addons
starcraft 1/2 and wc3 has thousands of playermade maps with own modable abilities/models etc.
diablo 2 has modded games like median or something
>>336677746
>"kill me"
>"later"
>>336663340
/v/ has a massive hate boner for blizzard so of course they'd say tf2 is better
Overwatch is fun, tf2 isn't
>hurrr original tf2 is much better
who gives a shit, you're not getting that back
>>336680050
these are all old games, except for sc2 but it only has custom maps because people were outrageous when the game released without them as it was like one of the main selling points of SC. You arent getting shit anymore.
>>336679751
This nigga gets it. TF2 feels like a cohesive world. Overwatch is a fucking mess of ideas for characters that might look cool and flashy, despite the fact that they look like they belong to different universes or periods of time.
Also, every class in TF2 feels like it has a very specific function in the group, and the entire character design revolves around it. In Overwatch, there are so many characters that do exactly the same with different animations that only makes it harder to balance.
>>336679234
>lots of characters is inherently good
Are you memeing me right now?
>>336680247
the game launched with custom map support, they showed it off before the game was even out
Post links to sfm overwatch porn
>>336680210
>he doesn't know about vanilla servers
>he doesn't know they're extraordinarily popular
>>336680523
not an argument, I don't play unofficial crap hosted by pedro from peru
>>336678030
Done by adult swim during the adult swim cross promo thing
tbqh they could have used the characters for HotS and there would be no difference
>>336680576
>I hate fun.
I'm sorry to hear that, anon. Maybe one day when you manage to overcome your crippling cynicism, you'll be able to have some fun.
tf2 is incredibly repetitive and overwatch isn't, that's the only reason the autists on /v/ like tf2 so much.
>>336681131
>overwatch is not repetitive
>>336676917
It looks like a SJW version of Vi from LoL
>>336664857
Agreed
How does premades work in this game? Do you get matched up with other premades or?
Overwatch but both are not very good.
>>336665732
The map editor for SC2 was pretty good. Not a love of people use it these days though with the community shrinking down some much since everyone left for other games
It does seem like the amount the community contributes to blizz games has dropped like a rock though since they got bought out by Activision. Maybe this will be a good chance to try and re-invigorate that aspect? It certianly seems like this game is breathing fresh life into a company that became way to stagnant for it's own good.
I like overwatch more because I have the hots for D.va and I wanna pound her mound
>>336668328
>(except Tracer)
I played overwatch for the first time today and why the fuck isn't tracer faster? Why the fuck isn't everyone faster?
To be honest i'm kind of sick of the MOBA formula that has been going on for a while
After LoL and Dota2 it all starts to blend together for me, they almost feel like the same game with different camera angles and some little mechanics taken off or some put in
"PICK BETWEEN 250 CHAMPIONS/HEROES/WHATEVER (Probably 225 of those 250 are stereotypes) AND USE YOUR ABILITIES (Usually 4 with one of them being your ultimate and that one champion that breaks this rule by having more than 4) TO WIN THE MATCH!"
Let's be honest, OW exists to this day because the MOBA market is still hot i guess and they pretty much ruined TF2
How do you manage to create so many characters completely devoid of personality?
Blizzard really dropped the ball here
>>336679234
TF2 has a more even pace to it. Overwatch has much fewer weapons per characters but gives them abilities with cooldowns instead.
Only thing tf2 had like this at all was the Uber charge. It seems like Overwatch is trying to force a lot of this "super feel good moments" onto every character at the cost of more frequent and active gameplay. We'll see if it takes, but I'm guessing after a few months people will get tired of games boiling down to which teams can coordinate ults better.
It does seem that blizz is more interested in doing match making and ranked play than tf2 out of the bat though which is a plus
>kill someone
X ELIMINATED!
>barely damage someone while someone else finishes him off
X ELIMINATED!
Is this to make people with low k/d feel better about themselves?
>>336663340
TF2 is more balanced.
>>336682469
Didn't the lack of a scoreboard tip you off?
>>336682469
Considering the scoreboard doesn't even show off anyone's k/d, absolutely.
>>336663340
I really enjoyed TF2 when it came out but the more and more different weapons and hats killed it for me.
>>336682194
I don't know people keep comparing OW to MOBAs. The only thing they have in common are ults. The rest is standard, class based objective fps.
>>336682543
k/d fags are awful but the game hiding statistics and especially hiding damage numbers is the worst
>>336682469
They drew in a lot of MOBA elements, so it doesn't surprise me that the would think that "killstealing" would be a toxic element the game would want to avoid, never mind the fact that it has no bearing on any kind of score in the game
>>336682696
It sure looks like it took some things from MOBAs
Wasn't the game advertised as "Blizzard's new MOBA" when OW was announced?
>>336682768
I just want to see statistics. I like to see how many dudes I killed, how many assists I got, how many times I died, how much damage I deal per shot to figure out if this weapon is worth using at long range but I don't get that. K/D and ASSFAGGOTS fans are the worst but that shouldn't make it impossible to see my stats
>>336663615
>I hate that everyone plays assfaggots - /v/
>Wow people are playing somethign else and I hate it - /v/
I don't get it.
>>336669545
Nobody minds hearing characters trashtalk you. The lines in TF2 are great.
Players trashtalking is different.
>>336666517
>Literally 3 fast character in the whole game and they suck shit as primary combat classes
What? So you haven't played the game huh?
>>336679234
its a good thing overwatch is competing with vanilla tf2 the-
fuck wait no it's not so that argument is totally irrelevant you cunt
>>336682702
The game wants to hide people that performed poorly to protect their feelings, rather than showing them where they could use improvement and advance as a player.
I can understand both arguments for this, but I still think it's a little ridiculous
>>336682903
Agreed, it's piss they didn't include it.
Probably not going to change though given how blizzard seems to be interested in dumbing down every kind of stat or score display these days.
>>336678448
Mei's is if you don't move
Bastion's is if you can't move.
Dva's is if you can't move
Junkrat's is dangerous but can be avoided by jumping on something.
Most are easily avoidable because of the sound cues for the ultimate, ie if you hear "A IT'S HIGH NOON!" just take cover.
Basically that guy is retarded.
>>336682997
>Nobody minds hearing characters trashtalk you
You may not, but it definitely triggers people. Some people can't deal with an achievement popping up in a single player game after dying to a boss called "Consult an FAQ already" because they missed an obvious as fuck item, I can't imagine how fucking booty blasted they would get if they died in a multiplayer game and the character talked shit.
>>336682696
its mostly aesthetically similar to a MOBA. There is lore between the characters that nobody cares about, each character is designed to be as lolrandum and youneek as possible and there are ultimate abilities that can flip a fight.
>>336682702
>play support
>get a poor k/d
>somehow that means I'm a terrible player and other players will mock you for it
The numbers shown in OW are relevant. Fuck k/d faggots, hate those fuckers. If they can't see the numbers they don't go as apeshit as much.
>>336683295
But that's the characterr talking, not another human being. The lines in TF2 are great because they fit the class and personality.
Unlike UT which had oneliners like 'You suck!' or some equally boring shit like that.
>>336683251
Not that guy, but I'd argue McCree's flashbang is a pretty nasty "I win" button, if not just for single engagements
>Defending point
>Turn a corner
>Oh shit its silly cowboy
>silly cowboy throws flashbang on reaction and unloads pistol
>out-fucking-skilled
>tfw Unreal Tournament 2004 had the best trash talk
>>336683251
>Junkrat's is dangerous but can be avoided by jumping on something.
It can climb walls, in case you didn't know.
>>336683587
>implying ut2004 taunts have anything against TF2 taunts
No.
>teleporter is an ultimate
>not even the engineer's ultimate
>>336683251
>They are I win buttons if your facing retards
So?
>>336680576
>I only play valve servers.
I see why you don't like the game.
>>336683570
His flashbang isn't the problem, it's entirely his fan the hammer that's fucked.
It has stupid good accuracy for something that can deal about 400 damage in a second, there's almost no point in left clicking when someone's close if you can just mulch them with right click.
With Mei you have to freeze someone, line up the headshot, then icicle. There's an element of aim involved even in shooting someone that's stunned. With Mcree you're not flashbanging and lining up a headshot, you just right click and win. It's definitely the most unbalanced thing in the game at the moment, the only thing that will replace it at this rate is when good Widows learn to aim and turn it into "Highlander: Pocket the Sniper" mode.
So its been years since I've played an fps like this, and decided to try out the beta. After a dozen matches of people never choosing tanks or support, no one pushing objectives or defending anything, I'm wondering if its the game thats shit or just the jackoffs playing it because its a free beta.
>>336676946
So Call of Duty is a Moba?
This logic is retarded. Overwatch is a Team Based multiplayer shooter that happens to have abilities on cooldowns. That's it.
>>336663340
I don't really think you can even compare the two. Ones an expensive mlp furry hat simulator and the other is a arena shooter
>>336684228
I see people going for objectives and using tank classes. Few pick Support, but aside from that I'd say it's been a very solid experience.
Fuck Widowmaker faggots though.
The thing that seperates Overwatch from TF2 is alot of things that makes it better
>It's more fast than any modern shooter
>No regeneration health
>No forced memes (unlike TF2)
>More character development and lore for each character
>Actually requires a brain and skill to play instead of just shooting and hope you hit the enemy
>It's fun
>/v/ hates it
This hive mind has to stop
>>336678159
DELET THIS
>>336684208
Yeah you're right, if he had to actually aim for a headshot in the short amount of time that you're stunned it would certainly be a lot fairer than just dumping all of his bullets on you for free.
I've felt the same way about Widow too, I think she's really fucking strong, but I'm just bad at sniping so I'm not doing as much as I could with her.
How the fuck does McCree fan a double-action revolver in the first place
>>336684920
>>336684654
You guys are a bit early for your shift
>>336683570
>out-fucking-skilled
Why is the concept of a class based shooter so hard to understand? I'm not saying that the game has good balance but 1 on 1 encounters were never supposed to be balanced in the first place.
Yes McCree/Tracer/Edgelord can easily fuck you up in a tight closed space. Fuck, the guy is a cowboy, his whole fucking theme is duels. You know why? Because picking out faggots one by one is their primary fucking purpose. It is supposed to take you way more skill to fuck him up in his own field.
How is it a bad thing in a context of the game? How does striping them off of their "stupid" abilities constitute for a better game design when it merely makes them useless garbage.
Jesus fuck, hell.
Played both, prefer TF2
OW feels like a bad version of TF2
> Team Fortress 2 vs Overwatch
my fucking sides
now tell me you are not a shill
please
I need more laughter
>>336685195
Personally I get mad as fuck when you see "Play of the Game" and expect something cool like someone using rockets to juggle someone.
But no, it's a Bastion camping in a corner. Or a Soldier activating his ult and literally autoaiming everyone to death.
>>336684920
>It's more fast than any modern shooter
>Actually requires a brain and skill to play instead of just shooting and hope you hit the enemy
>No forced memes
>More character development and lore for each character
these are all wrong
>It's fun
for the first couple of games, yes
>/v/ hates it
im not /v/ but i don't hate it, i despise it for being a low skill cap "look ma, a tripple" casual corridor shootan shitfest with shitty movement ( no friction, no acceleration, no air movement it reminds me of skyrim on PC ), you can just FEEL how this game was done by someone with zero fps experience, and to be honest, it completely shits on all important fps genre aspects that make them fun and rewarding to play, while instead pandering to scrubs who never played an fps before with its shitty huge hitboxes, retarded skills and ultimates and atrocious maps. Blizzdrones will love this, no doubt, but everyone who likes FPS genre and has some respect for themself should stay away from this turd
>20 tick rate
>upgrade to anything
lmaoing at your life
I don't give a shit how casual this game is, it made me quit CS:GO and I actually am starting to have fun when I play video games again
>>336664895
May it rest in peace.
What's worst about this is that you can't just make a private server or something like that. There's no way to reunify the community.
>>336685650
This I agree so much, please eat my vagina out!
>>336685924
>csgo
you were casual all along.
>>336663631
Kinda this.
>>336663340
TF2 wins against Overwatch, since there is no problem with "abilities"
In TF2 you don't have retarded ultimate abilities that just win the game when you press q. TF2 has characters with roles that do specific things. Overwatch does not have this. Overwatch is more comparable to an ASSFAGGOTS game in that it is completely retarded and that you just wait for ulti to win.
This is a joke right? or some kind of bait?
im not sure i could even call you a blizzard shill
what the fuck is this
>>336686086
give me an example of a non-casual PC shooter that isn't some outdated or remodeled aim jock arena shooter snoozefest
The one that doesn't have a retarded meta centered around a retarded jewish economy yet.
>>336685195
It's a bad thing because it feels fucking lame to engage him, get stunned and have him shit out damage faster than anyone else without even so much as trying.
At least Tracer and Edgelord have to worry even just a little bit about shooting a moving target, and their opponent fighting back.
Would forcing him to actually aim for headshots at close range for extreme burst damage really make him useless garbage?
>>336684920
>>Actually requires a brain and skill to play instead of just shooting and hope you hit the enemy
i cant believe what i'm fucking reading right now
>>336686596
there is none. The last game i played that wasnt a quake-like, unreal tournament or tf2 that involved skill and interesting gameplay was picrelated.
Valvefags and Blizzfags are equally as retardedbut Blizzard still objectively makes more and better games than Valve has in over a decade.and Overwatch is better.
>>336684920
everything you indicate in your post is factually wrong, but its probably bait
>>336687016
>last 4 games blizzard made: sc2, diablo 3, hots, overwatch
>all shit
>valve knows if they would make new games they'd be just as shit
>they decide to not make games anymore
you either die a hero or live long enough to become a piece of shit trash dev like blizzard
>>336684920
are you high?
>>336686398
> TF2 you don't have retarded ultimate abilities that just win the game when you press q
ye they do, they are called ubers and they are exceedingly important to the TF2 meta from the lowest to the highest skill level
>>336687016
>Overwatch is betterOverwatch is shit and will always be shit
Current state of the TF2 community:
>Idlers
>Childeren
>3rd Worlders
>Genuinely autistic people
>Jewers
Hardly anyone even plays the game as a serious competitive game anymore.
It is literally just "talk with your e-friends while you dick around and conga" now.
TF2's community is beyond dead to me.
With Overwatch coming out, I finally have something to fill that void.
>>336687315
But if the medic dies his bar resets.
>>336687315
On one class, and they're not nearly as powerful as anything in Overwatch
>>336663340
in overwatch "kills" are actually assists.
take that as you will
>>336683587
Man these wojak variations are redundant and shit,
>>336686778
>Would forcing him to actually aim for headshots at close range for extreme burst damage really make him useless garbage?
no, but it would likely make him a tad underpowered and it would completely strip him of one of his bests uses, a close quarters tank shredder.
>>336687315
>ubers win the game
no they don't theres plenty of opportunities to use knockback to keep them away.
>>336687315
Uber isn't an ulti though, it's the alt-fire of a medic's medigun. Literally something only a medic can do that takes fucklong to charge.
>this is b8
Oh yeah thats right.
The characters in Overwatch seem all over the place to the point that it's bland in its own way. TF2's more cohesive universe is better (too bad they ruined it with hats and cuhhhraaaazeee background)
game is easy as f, it´s fun though
>>336687417
After playing for a few hours now I've heard 5 words out of someone over the mic, most people only type GG at the end of a stomp round if tf2s community is dead than Overwatches community is a still birth.
Basically its the WoW LFG community
>>336687472
>>336687467
Medic i generally considered to be the most powerful class in TF2 by most higher end players, and ubers are a massive part of that. The details of how they function might be slightly different, but none the less its a very powerful ability that you have to actively charge over time and has a massive impact on the game.
Of course OW goes to the next level by giving everyone an ult, but the flow of gameplay in TF2 was already decided by ubers more often than not (if you arent playing with shit players at least) so bitching about them in OW seems a bit off. I get why you dont like the concept of ults in a shooter, but in reality you have been playing with them for years in TF2
TF2 2008 > Overwatch > TF2 now
It's not that hard.
>>336688041
Depending on who you play with.
TF2 now > TF2 2008 > OW
>>336688027
You kill a medic you erase all of his progress. Ubers just make you invulnerable to damage, they can still be dealt with. It isn't an auto aim button.
>>336687534
yeah, and i have seen plenty of people fuck up ults in OW over the last day. Of course everything looks OP in the trailers, but in practice theres a lot of counterplay.
For example, it takes some perfect timing to get Pharah's missle barrage to kill more than 1 or maybe 2 people. She is vulnerable up in the air holding stil while doing it andit really isnt as crushinyl powerful as it looks. Tanks live through it all the time, and if suishes are fast enough to get under cover they live a decent bit of the time as well.
Its not a simple as get ult=kill whole team.
>>336688027
scrub vaccinator is best medigun now. welcome to 2016
>>336687497
But it's not just against tanks, and it's not just at close range. Sure he excels at close range, but he's perfectly capable of murder at mid to mid-far range too - a range that Tracer and Reaper only wish they could really deal damage at.
The only thing they have over McCree is movement options, but what are they gonna do, move closer to him to his more optimal range, just so they stand a fighting chance?
Remember when they had to give McCree's bullets drop-off damage because he was just a better sniper than Widow? It's pretty astounding what he can do if your aim is worth a damn.
I don't like the TF2 comparison very much, and frankly I really wish everyone would stop making it.
TF2 was a fraction of the price, or free with the Orange Box, depending on how you purchased it.
TF2 had an easy solution to the sniper problem of getting your dick blown off before you even knew what happened, which OW for some reason refuses to learn from.
TF2 lets you reasonably play the class you want to play instead of shuffling every death because your retarded teammates keep switching from their vital tank/support/dps class and you have to switch to compensate for their stupidity.
TF2 has actually well designed maps that aren't all just "large tunnel with 1-2 small corridors on the side".
TF2 has big enough teams to let everyone seamlessly go different routes and do their own thing, whereas even two people splitting off to flank in OW could fuck your entire team over. This isn't even a complaint, it's just a game design choice, but I can tell you which I prefer when playing with randos.
TF2 has more to the classes balance than "Oh, I killed him so he switched to the guy that rapes the class I'm playing. ok."
TF2 doesn't give half the classes instant-kills, and then expect you to spend eighty five hundred years walking back to the actual game.
TF2 has more to it than just GET THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE SIT ON THE OBJECTIVE HERE'S THE OBJECTIVE POINT YEAH- and there is more ways to help your team organically than just sitting on the objective. Spy is basically and entire class about that- god knows he shouldn't be sitting on a capture point shooting people.
TF2's respawn time and map design lead to fights throughout the entire map instead of it being localized right in the center with the occasional spawn camp if one team is getting stomped. OW half the maps feel lifeless walking through them.
TF2's characters have tons of dialogue and personality, even at launch. OW so far, not so much.
>>336688398
If you have good aim and aimbot doesnt mean too much (especially since the while the aimbot is active you are incapable of headshotting meaning that if you are a really good shot it makes your dps go down), but give some skilled players a few moments of invulnerability and they will wreck some shit.
You are used to the uber since its been around for so long and you have played with it enough to know its not blaringly OP and has counterplay. Try and take a step back and realize that in every traditional sense the Uber is an ult, and thats not a bad thing.
>>336688027
Except in OW you constantly have "ubers", including shit that insta-kills without taking any input from the player, for every single class, all the time. The progress towards it isn't even gone when someone dies, so they can just waltz back and use it then. TF2 is a game where shooting the Medic is so important because of his healing and the possibility of an Ubercharge - in OW those kinds of picks don't really matter because you'll be back up in 5 seconds with your charge intact anyway.
Yes, Medics decide the gameflow in TF2 6v6, but as the only class that can do so picks are way more important and good killing is actually rewarded.
>>336688041
TF2 2010 >>>> TF2 now >>>> TF2 2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Overwatch
fixed that for you
TF2 on release was shit
>>336688041
fucking spot on
>>336684046
This is an actual problem with the game. The server browser is outdated and missing key features, so people like the anon you replied to get mad because they are too dumb to find a good server.
TF2 has had its time lads.
Right now I'd rather play Overwatch than TF2 because TF2 is stale.
>>336689070
>TF2 on release was shit
That's why i said TF2 2008 and not 2007.
I'm talking everything before the scout update in early 09.
>>336689181
>462
newfag
>>336688958
>TF2 is a game where shooting the Medic is so important because of his healing and the possibility of an Ubercharge - in OW those kinds of picks don't really matter because you'll be back up in 5 seconds with your charge intact anyway.
You are right that reseting on death is a difference, but to imply that killing a mercy or lucio isnt important just because it wont reset their ult charge is nonsense. Killing the support is the first step to taking an objective and they are almost always the highest priority targets.
I dont even have a real arguement here, just given the hours that ive played so far you are simply incorrect
>>336689229
I never idled for hats because I don't have severe autism.
Original TF2 > Overwatch for Free > New TF2 > complete dogshit > Overwatch, a game with basically a single mode and a handful of shitty maps for SIXTY US DOLLARS
>>336689181
i've got 1000 more hours than you and i'm not tired of it yet
>>336689340
yes, the only way to not have a tiny amount of hours in TF2 is by idling
>>336689432
Good for you, but some of us like some variety in our lives.
>>336689339
>imply that killing a mercy or lucio isnt important just because it wont reset their ult
nah dislodging their tank/bastion is most important thing
>>336689181
Just hit 4000 hours, still not tired of it
When I play Overwatch, I feel that a majority of my kills are not earned. It feels like I just get kills easily with zero effort and it seems to be the same way for everyone else. Everything just felt unearned and handed to me. The game plays itself to an extant. Why would I play a game where nothing feels rewarding or earned?
>>336689352
hey, this works for me
>>336689610
your "kills" are kills+ assists. The streak the game says you're on includes assists
Why the fuck did Overwatch take all the worst aspects of TF2? Literally the only gamemode that works sort of well is KOTH because you actually can push and pull, but for some reason they opted to have six billion maps that are shitty Goldrush-like spamfests. Fuck you.
>>336689479
>nearly 500 hours
>a tiny amount
I'd really like to know what went wrong in your life if you think it's acceptable to brag about how many hours you've wasted on a game.
>>336689432
>Good for you, but some of us like some variety in our lives.
i have more variety in my life than yours anon.
I've been playing TF2 a long time, and I just feel like it's time to move on, the game got worse and worse over the years, hats were one thing, but...
>Adding weapon skin cases like CS:GO
>Adding kill tracking weapons like CS:GO
>Adding ranked play that worked like CS:GO
Eventually it just didn't feel like TF2 anymore, so I sold all my inventory on the market (528 USD) had some good strange hats and strange festive weapons, and moved on
I will never forget the old TF2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39OTDUh8QKQ
>>336676515
but he didn't say OW was a moba. he said it was like a moba.
>>336677308
Lanes.
Escort your creep/payload to the enemy base.
Balanced like complete ass.
Marketed to children and autists.
I don't kniw man sounds like a moba to me.
>>336689590
Yeah but like I said before, I don't have severe autism.
is valve rigging this poll?
how could tf2 win
>>336689727
I'm not referring to assists, I'm referring to actual kills. I played Roadhog and it just felt so easy. I land a hook and a shotgun blast and the guy is dead. I do this over and over. I play Bastion and use his ability, enemy teams just dies. I play Tracer, enemy just dies because they cant hit me. I play the fucking ape and people just die. There is no difficulty here.
>>336689821
I played the game for years but don't have many hours, I tried playing it the other day and it just didn't feel the same as before, none of us had fun and we ended up just playing something else...real shame
>>336689804
>using this argument on /v/
go outside lad
>>336689804
lmao yeah, those fucking nerds and their hours and hours in a video game, loser no-lifes, let me just app chad if he wants to do some netflix and chill later lol
>>336680379
They showed off a version of the map editor that was 10 times better than the shit that they released. Custom maps also had to be uploaded to the blizzard server for whatever retarded reason
>support switches to Widowmaker midmatch
Why does shit like this always happen?
>>336689950
Because it's better. That's usually an advantage if you have to compete in a poll.
>Overwatch getting fucked
>>336689939
>anyone who plays and enjoys a game for longer than me is an autistic nerd
Fuck off, retard. The game has been out for almost ten years now.
>>336663340
Sadly TF2 requires more skill.
Overwatch is really fun but needs more weapon variety instead of just M1ing your hero weapon 24/7 then pushing the PRESS TO WIN ult button.
>>336689962
>Only recently got into tf2
I feel like I missed the glorious time of arena shooter all together.
>>336689821
strange weapons were already in tf2 though
and noone actually uses skins. They become worthless if you use them
>>336690053
i am so happy lucio is fun to play because it means i know for a fact my team will never be without a support
>>336689968
>>336690020
>muh hugbox
You can surround yourself with like minded autists all you want, but in the end you'll still be a fucking loser.
I'm a loser as well, but at least I'm not proud of it like some kind of retard.
I'm primarily voting for Overwatch because TF2 and its community is just so fucking awful.
>>336689175
I agree, there needs to be some overhauls to the browser.
Skail and team-cream need to die as well.
Fucking seeder accounts and "players" that are just bot controlled.
>>336689902
>Lanes
Having more than one avenue to an objective constitutes as lanes now? And don't lanes usually have standing defensive structures that need to be destroyed before progressing?
>Escort creep/payload to base
Except creeps function autonomously and have offensive capabilities, unlike a big dumb cart that you essentially need to babysit if you want to keep moving.
I'll give you the other two, though.
>>336689952
because 20 tick and shotty hitreg? honestly you have to try to miss.
Love when widowmake snipes me without the crosshair over my head or body at all
>>336690383
I'm not proud of it, bumblefuck, but you were pretending to have scratched the surface of the game right there while you clearly haven't. Sitting around in Valve servers for 500 hours does not really show anything of TF2.
none of the classes in overwatch can capture the same feeling
>>336677575
Battleborn has PvE, Overwatch is like a MOBA without any PvE, so just character abilities really.
>>336683251
Also pharahs missle barrage.
Also the wallhacking dragon.
Also that one bitch's stupid as fuck teleporter which completely negates how slow the movement is.
Reaper's spin to win move.
Soldiers aim bot.
Fucking RESURRECTION IN AN FPS GAME
This game's ults are a joke and will literally never be anything close to balanced.
>>336690201
Most normal people get tired of a game after awhile. And let's not pretend you're not an autistic nerd, shall we?
>>336689902
>lanes
you're retarded did you even play it?
I dont like Overwatch but at least i gave it a college try
>>336690552
Don't forget that cowboy "if you're on my screen you're fucked" ult.
Vanilla TF2 > Overwatch > Modern TF2
>>336690523
Good.
>>336690436
The poor Source server browser is also hindering the CS:GO private server scene. It is a massive shame and I don't think Valve fully realizes how big the effect is.
Hell, third-party browsers like All-Seeing Eye used to have features like browsing based on countries TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO, how hard is that to implement?
>>336690383
>posts 462 hours like it's some sort of validation of a bad opinion
>people say they played it more and still enjoy it
>REEE FUCKING RETARDS STOP ENJOYING A GAME I DON'T YOU MUST BE LITERALLY AUTISTIC
this is you
>>336690618
And yet a lot of people have one hobby or sport, that they excessively follow through.
TF2 is better just because it has scout desu
both.
Suck on that
>>336690618
I played it endlessly with friends in high school, and recently we picked it up again with matchmaking and scrim a lot. Nothing fucking wrong with that, pretentious dipshit.
>>336689962
>don't have many hours
>3,413 hours
>>336690772
>browsing based on countries
Valve is specifically against this and has voiced their opinion on the matter numerous times.
>>336691003
huehues will get sad if you dont let them play with US east though
My problem is the broken abilities that are basic insta-win buttons, like the literal aimbot one character has. That's so stupid, and how is it fun to fight against that? The worst part is that it has no downside whatsoever.
Compare that to the aimbot in TF2, aka a sentry. You can't move it while it's firing, it's easily killed due to falloff damage not applying to it, and needs to be upgraded twice just to be more effective.
Compare that and tell me why Overwatch somehow takes "more skill".
>>336691003
...and that is complete bullshit. It seems that North American companies don't fully understand the massive cultural gaps in Europe.
Missing country categories is not even the biggest flaw. Basic features like a proper UNIFORM filter system for filtering out garbage like idle or achievement servers would already do wonders.
>>336690814
>he thinks entertainment can be compared to a hobby or sport
You know the difference between video games and a real hobby? Real hobbies teach you things and aren't a waste of time.
>b-but if I enjoy it how is it a waste of time?
It's your life, I am just pointing out your mistake of comparing a literal time sink to a useful hobby/sport that keeps your mind/body healthy.
>>336690780
Are you implying 462 hours isn't enough time to form an opinion of a game?
And I genuinely believe people who've played this game over a thousand hours have some form of autism. Why? Because autists like repetition.
>>336691325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy5phGpkmTg
it's just fun and relaxing
>>336691325
Or maybe because they enjoy playing the game and enjoy getting better at it
Do you generally give up hobbies after an x amount of hours because otherwise it might make you look autistic? You're just sounding incredibly insecure.
>>336691325
>And I genuinely believe people who've played this game over a thousand hours have some form of autism. Why? Because autists like repetition.
Ignoring the fact this game has been released like a decade ago?
Dude you're just a fucking idiot.
What other arena-shooter like game has been released lately? That's why TF2 is still being played, people will always come back if they enjoy the game, plus having items and shit to trade, making real money via trading, farming stranges in pubs and whatnot.
Jeez, if you like a game you're an autist, alright i took the bait.
>>336691325
>coming on to a mongolian sheepshearing board about video games on a high horse about how you shouldn't play video games
fuck off
>hats ruined TF2! it destroyed the lore and artstyle!
>this coming from the blizzard fans who praised Starcraft 2's story as "revolutionary" and "epic".
>>336691286
That's all I want, I want to be able to filter out say any ctf_* maps, idle servers, instant respawns, and trade servers. I really don't care about filtering by country, ping is all i care about.
>>336691249
Level 2 sentries are really effective if you use them right, next time you play engie try using a level 2 sentry that you pack up often. Put them in weird spots get a few kills and move them. That deploy speed difference makes them so much easier to move around.
>>336663340
I like Overwatch more because the characters and maps were boring as hell to me in Team Fortress. The community is also grade A cancer
>>336691893
>The community is also grade A cancer
i don't really understand this
i mean, you're right, but so is Overwatch's
>>336691893
plebian taste
>not liking foundry
>not liking scout
Overwatch is the Team Fortress 3 we've all been asking for
>>336691893
>the community is cancer
>but Blizzard's communities can do no wrong! especially when they praise Starcraft 2 as the best thing ever and ignore every single major flaw that ruined the game and the series in general
Okay there mate.
>>336691661
>Do you generally give up hobbies after an x amount of hours because otherwise it might make you look autistic?
Where in my post did I say that? I stopped playing because I grew tired of it.
>Ignoring the fact this game has been released like a decade ago?
That matters why? My point is that people usually grow tired of a game after a couple of hundred hours, especially a game like TF2. I mean what the fuck do you do all day? Playing on 2fort all day collecting hats? I am genuinely curious.
>>336691325
Then I guess experts in their hobbies all have autism because they like repetition right?
>>336691893
TF2 characters might be boring to you, but atleast they have a character, they are not just pop culture spewing mascots.
"oh look, Russia, better talk about how independent and strong of a women she is."
While heavy actually has defined character that is not broken to this day.
>>336692145
>Where in my post did I say that? I stopped playing because I grew tired of it.
You're implying everyone who spent a lot of hours in a game just HAS to be autistic.
>>336692145
Not him, but some of us like going to custom maps, custom game modes, custom item servers, and etc.
You see, when your company doesn't greedily restrict you to a small box, you can do so much more. I don't think we'll ever see a class wars mode in Overwatch, or a Warioware mod.
>>336692074
>we've all been asking for
No.
Remove "abilities" and "i win" ult buttons
Give every hero at least 2 weapons.
Add cosmetics. (Skins are not enough)
Enable trading.
Add a reliable way to rocket jump.
Specialize heroes to fulfill certain roles instead of giving them bunch of jack-of-all trades skills.
Overwatch is just an arena-shooter like with MOBA concepts.
Also overwatch has one thing TF2 does not, WAIFUS.I want to main d.va!
>>336692145
>Playing on 2fort all day collecting hats?
I'm impressed how much you did not play the game even though you went and took a screenshot of time spent
Have you never had a team, done scrims, leagues? Been a regular in a community server? That's what people spend their time with in TF2.
>>336691325
>Real hobbies teach you things and aren't a waste of time.
Like what?
>>336673618
You don't realize that you and most everyone in this thread are the reason it is for normal people at this point.
Also why are we comparing a game that is in beta and has basically had 0 updates or balance changes that anyone besides steam fags In the closed beta can even talk about or see differences with. It's too fucking early to judge if the games going to have longevity or not.
If you like it so far stick with it and have fun, and hope blizzard makes it worthwhile over time, if you don't like it go play your dead hat collecting simulator and try it again later when it's had a chance to be worked on some more. Who knows, you might like it then. Idiots.
>>336692145
>That matters why? My point is that people usually grow tired of a game after a couple of hundred hours, especially a game like TF2. I mean what the fuck do you do all day? Playing on 2fort all day collecting hats? I am genuinely curious.
Alright you didn't even played that fucking game, i'm done with your autism.
>>336692269
In a game like TF2, yeah.
There's literally nothing to do but killing people. Only an autist could do something like that for over a thousand hours.
>>336691325
this is some hardcore normie-posting
>>336692074
nope.
TF3 better have:
>same classes
>128 tickrate standard servers
>stock weapons and sidegrades; customize-able classes
what tf2 doesnt need:
>press q to win
>no loadouts
>6v6 pubs
>>336692454
Fishing, now that is a real hobby.
>>336691954
>i mean, you're right, but so is Overwatch's
Faar from it anon. Team Fortress's community is objectively the worst community in all of gaming.
>>336692141
>starcraft 2 is Overwatch
>>336692225
Of course characters from a game that's 10 years old will have character.
>>336692523
>you spend so much time playing chess, there's literally nothing but moving pieces
>you spend so much time playing football, there's literally nothing but kicking the ball
>you spend so much time collecting stamps, there's literally nothing but pasting them into folders
>you spend so much time doing anything, there's literally nothing but whatever my surface level views allows me to see
jesus christ
>>336692523
can't a non-autist enjoy stuff enough to do them repeatedly
>>336682997
>Players trashtalking is different.
fuck off crybaby
>>336692225
Yeah, like how the Pyro was ALWAYS imagining that it was doing nice things for people instead of being completely ambiguous, or how the Sniper is a professional who throws jars of his urine at people? TF2's characterization has its dark spots, and they may not spew their pop culture, but they wear it. There's a fucking Batman set in the store now.
I say this as someone who's played almost 2000 hours of TF2, and plays from time to time today and won't be getting Overwatch.
>>336692642
>starcraft 2 is Overwatch
Both from Blizzard, mate. And anyone who likes Overwatch also likes Starcraft 2. It's how the whole fanboy thing works, and it's the experience I've had in every single overwatch thread.
Team Fortress 2 has always been a mediocre game.
Based on what I've played, Overwatch is far better.
Why is Symmetra listed under Support and not Defense?
Her tiny ass shields do jack shit compared to the actual healing from the other supports. Maybe they should let you change your turrets from damage mode on enemies to a heal mode on allies.
And having a teleporter be a fucking ultimate is retarded. No wonder it takes forever to get back to the frontlines.
>>336692642
Have you ever even seen the Blizzard forums, /vg/ Overwatch general, or subreddits? Now watch you argue that that's not representative, but then it's likely you've never played on community servers in TF2 either.
>>336692749
>There's a fucking Batman set in the store now.
Who cares?
>the Sniper is a professional who throws jars of his urine at people?
How did jar of piss change his character?
Pyro I give you.
>Defense
>Entire team picks bastion
>Win
Fun
Jokes aside, it's a giggle with friends, much like Boredomlands, but with only a few abilities and weapons per each class allows for less variability than Tf2's system. If you can find your niche with your class against the enemy team, you can pretty much massacre everyone.
Or just pick one of the following 3 in defense: Snow Chink, murderbot or börk
>>336692837
kek my alt account has more time playing than that
>>336692837
heh
>>336692454
Ehm, the skill you learn? An instrument for example? Patience?
Video games only teach you how to be good at video games which is a useless trait desu.
Come play some tf2.
68.232.171.204:27015
>>336693008
[citation needed]
Post your face when valve tried to add fresh blood to TF2 by making that new retarded mode that nobody is playing anymore.
I am not mad at the mode. I am mad at the fact that that time and resources could have been used somewhere else like fixing bugs and shit.
The fucking quickfix still does not protect from airblasts holy shit.
>>336692523
>There's literally nothing to do but killing people.
damn, just like Overwatch, or pretty much every single multiplayer game in existence
I can't believe they're all the same, "literally" no variation or possibility to do anything with that concept
>>336692909
No, but I bet they're a far cry from TF2's shitty gamer poop lol YouTube videos are that absolute cancer.
>>336693008
>Useless trait
Not so useless when there's tons of people getting paid for playing games famerino.
>>336693256
They are not. It's a very similar community filled with kids and memeing teenagers. TF2's is just older so seems more prevalent, but look at any Blizzard community and you'll find the same shit.
>>336693210
>new mode that nobody is playing anymore
Says you. Stop hating on fun and enjoy life a little.
>>336693156
Citation for what m8?
>>336693226
Overwatch let's you kill people in a different way than TF2. People who've been playing TF2 for over a thousand hours have been killing people in the same way for so long the only reasonable explanation is saying they have autism.
I'm not calling Overwatch better than TF2, it's just a matter of novelty.
>>336692523
>There's literally nothing to do but killing people.
There are actually multiple mod servers that do not center around killing people. Parkour, surf, prophunt(from the prop point of view), Deathrun(From the runners point of view) being the most popular.
>>336692145
> I mean what the fuck do you do all day? Playing on 2fort all day collecting hats?
I'm legit wondering how you spend your time playing TF2. What did you do?
>>336693226
Not him but try going into 2Fort and let's see if your team goes for the flag.
More than likely it'll be a deathmatch.
At least in OW the majority goes for the objective and just the f2p think it still is deathmatch but hopefully those will go away after the open beta.
>>336663340
>1364 total votes
>57% TF2 - 43% Overwatch
What does this mean, /v/?
>>336693454
>Citation for what m8?
That only thing that games teach you is how to play games. I would like citation for that, please.
>>336693393
Says the shitter hating on Overwatch for no reason.
ayy
>>336693553
Nostalgia and people being scared of new things. Usual.
>>336693454
>the only reasonable explanation is saying they have autism.
Yes, of course. That is the only possible explanation.
>>336693536
I'm not talking about 2fort, just wondering how the fuck that dude spent his time playing TF2. He has a ridiculously skewed view of what the game is like.
>>336693504
>2fort
>prophunt
>saxton hale
>payload
And some other game modes, but I forgot their name.
>>336693664
>>336693536
Misread the post, thought you quoted a different one
And yes, 2Fort servers are cancer. Anything new? They're not remotely representative.
>>336693641
>/v/ is one person
ayyy
>>336693662
>People being scared of new things
How is video game, new thing?
They were around for longer than you.
>>336686518
SHUTTHEFUCKUPSHUTTHEFUCKUPSHUTTHEFUCKUPSHUTTHEFUCKUPSHUTTHEFUCKUPSHUTTHEFUCKUP
>>336693553
That /v/ is full of valvedrones? Just post a pic of Gabe's viena sausage and they'll start sucking their monitor.
It's pathetic, really, just mention how HL2 is overrated as shit and you'll see the replies rolling.
>>336693587
I guess it teaches you some basic hand-eye coordination and maybe English if you're young, but that's about it bb.
Also wtf is up with this new fucking captcha? You have to select 6 images now instead of 2-3? Fucking Jews are at it again.
>>336693739
So, basically, pub servers, and by the sounds of it no real communities. Figures. Can you not understand that people took it up a notch and played the non-retarded game modes and actually went to play with coordinated teams? And that getting better at the game like that could've taken a few more hours than your personal playtime?
Or maybe it's just because everyone's autistic, which is obviously the better answer.
>>336693662
>posts a poll and gets mad when the results disagree with his opinion
Blizzcucks everyone.
You opened this can of worms retard now dig in.
>>336693826
>trying to deflect with the "one person" card
looks like I hit a nerve there
>>336693851
Are you implying /v/ doesn't jump on hate bandwagon for every new AAA game?
>>336693968
>cuck
Nice meme, shouldn't you be posting about ethics in journalism on /pol/chan right now?
>>336693967
I have no interest in online communities, that's why.
Blizzshills on suicide watch
>if you don't like it, it means you haven't played it
lmao
>>336693008
>useless trait
>people are making salaries playng video games
Get with the times grandpa
>>336691861
who are you quoting
TF2 > Block'n'Load > Super Monday Night Combat > Overwatch
>>336679234
>Overwatch basically has everything you want.
Except good map design and insane amounts of skill-gap compression.
>>336694165
>Hatfuckers are so salty their game is dying they shitpost about superior games without playing them
LMAO
>>336694453
>10 year old game which manages 50k people a day and receives weekly updates is considered "Dead"
>but a company whose most prominent releases average 10k at most is somehow better
>>336663340
Old TF2 > Overwatch > Modern TF2
>>336694141
Nice deflection there anon. Do you actually have a response or are you too frustrated your game is lacking in any sort of depth or skill?
>>336694453
>if you don't like this game you must like other shit game X
Fuck em both anon
>>336694453
>superior games
>The only argument for OW is the graphics and women
Nice game blizzdrones
>>336694590
>i-it's not dying!
>IT USED TO BE BIG
>DELETE THIS
>>336694590
>Hearthstone
>SC2
>WOW
>Diablo 3
>average 10k
Denial is REAL
>>336694737
>MUH HAT SIMULATOR
Heh
>>336694778
>stuttering
>emotes
>memes
>>336694870
All those games are actually dead anon.
>playing OW or TF2
>not playing the superior shooter
Step it up squid kids.
>>336694453
You do realize than there are way more people playing TF2 right? So if TF2 is "dead" then what does that make Overwatch? Even more dead? LMAO
>>336694870
But these games are dead though
>>336695114
>more people play released and well-known game than beta of unreleased game
Golly!
>>336695075
not even trying to bait, but does anyone even still play spaltoon anymore? seems dead senpai
>>336695075YOU'RE A KID YOU'RE SQUID YOU'RE A KID YOU'RE A SQUID NOOOOWWWWWWWWW
>Overcucks getting BTFO
Feels good. Fuck ActiBlizzard shills. No good games 8 years running.
>>336695267
>tf2 is dead!
>well DUH THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE PLAYING IT
watching morons doublethink in real time always amuses me
>>336695525
Basically this. I don't understand why people have any sort of faith in blizzard anymore. They are a shell of their former selves and have not had a good game released in a decade.
I don't understand how people can swallow thier shit IPs anymore.
>>336695731
pretty soon we'll all be captive by the party
>>336695775
Because Blizzard hires different teams for their projects. The niggs that did WOW are not working on OW.
Some people are move from team to team but for the most part the devs are different.
That's why you see much more care on Overwatch than on SC2 or WoW.
When was the last time you saw an open beta with all content unlocked?
/v/ usually bitches about not seeing demos and the OW team decided to let everyone try the full game in advance.
I have faith in the OW team, not on Blizzard itself.
Listen overwatchers i know you'd get mad if your 40$ investment died in 2 months, but think of it like you had fun for 2 months and only paid 40$. sounds pretty good to me.
Unfortunately i think i've experienced everything the game has to offer already so i wont be buying it. back to surfing around on pl_badwater for me
>>336696092
>That's why you see much more care on Overwatch than on SC2 or WoW.
What care? It's completely brainless. Also the niggs that did WoW don't work at Blizzard anymore.
>>336663340
overwatch has a very low skillcap per player (disgusting aim assist, revives make player deaths less costly to the team, press x to rocketjump, wallhack ultimates, etc.) and instead revolves around playing the right hero at the right time.
tf2 is much more focused on player skill and aim rather than cooldown abilities, most of which are gimmick weapons or ubercharge.
>>336696786
>What care? It's completely brainless.
Let me guess, you think the TF2 models look better than Overwatch?
>Also the niggs that did WoW don't work at Blizzard anymore.
That only adds to what I just said.
>>336697098
The art direction and personalities that went into TF2 are massively better than Overwatch. The wit and humor that comes from TF2's cast gives it more character than the dry, safe and sterile shit Overwatch has.
>>336695368
I get matches pretty quick on ranked, it's really popular in Japan. But the most active I've seen is during splatfests
Couldnt play TF2 even if I got payed for it.
OW on otherhand is fun and I have been enjoying it.
answer:OW
>>336697302
You mean the art direction that went to the shitter thanks to all that cosmetic garbage that has nothing to do with the setting?
Because a bionic arm from the future definitely fits the 60s.
My, the TF2 team sure cares!
Well, they do care, but only about your wallet.
>>336697098
I think they're over designed. Kinda like gen 4 pokemon. The focus should have been on making silhouettes as easy to read as possible.
>>336697505
Ill take cosmetics you will likely never see ingame for 100 alex
>>336696092
That just makes it worse. The reason old blizzard was good is because it was such a dedicated team of people that really wanted to make good games. They made masterpieces that are still played decades after release.
Can you really say overwatch is anywhere near that level of quality and isn't a cash grab game?
>>336697302
>tf2
>art direction
Nigga please
>>336684920
>It's more fast than any modern shooter
>>336697505
At least they had something interesting to start with, instead of sticking withthe lifeless, safe direction of OW's art and character design.
>>336677575
battleborn has "towers" and "creeps" called turrets and minions. You push towers and kill the guardian. overwatch is an fps with moba abilities with escorts and territory control.
>>336697841
With such a tiny amount of players I am not surprised.
No, 80K is nothing (and that's being generous)
DOTA2 and GO get over 700K lol
Speaks a lot for your game.
>What's left of the beaten corpse of the TF2 community right now
>>336665823
Well played anon you fucked me
>>336698108
Picture pretty much sums it up.
Tf2p drones are mad because they can't afford the entry price of the game lol. OW also doesn't have hats so they're made they can move their epeen somewhere else.
>>336684920
>more fast
The fast characters in overwatch are so much more fun. Not even heavy lumbers as slow as the heavy characters in overwatch.
Pharah and junkrat are painfully slow for what should be the main offensive classes and they dont even get advanced movement options to go faster. and the small things they do get are fucked by shitty ping/hitreg.
>>336696786
they went on to make masterpieces like the order 1886 and hellgate london
Good riddance
>>336698071
It's always been like this, what's your point exactly?
>>336698230
What about me? I hate tf2 and think your game is a joke and has no real skill involved at all. It has zero depth and is made to sell loot packs.
>people actually being hyped for something new
Sorry I don't believe you. Get out of here Chaim I ain't buyin'.
>>336698230
>Sour grapes
Jeez overwatch is free to try right now
You think we would shitpost about it without trying first?
40$ investment is nothing for people who put hard time into tf2. If you have 1000 hours, you have probably bought minimum 1 key.
My main gripes are:
>Your "kill streak" is really kills and assists
>Press q to win, ult doesnt reset on death
>6v6 is small, would be more fun 12v12
>shitty hitreg/tickrate; ie widows sniping me without having their reticule on me
>>336698263
>advanced movement options
Pharah's whole schtick is going high and flanking the enemy, and she has the movement options to do it. Junkrat can do this, too, but most people play him like Demoman because he can scatter the enemy front line.
>>336663340
>TF2
Simple, straightforward fun.
>Overwatch
Meme game.
I'm not even going to bother playing the beta.
>>336698883
>If you have 1000 hours, you have probably bought minimum 1 key.
>tfw have over 2000 hours totaled and have never ever paid more than the initial price of the game
>>336698916
My qualm is that there's no shock and awe to it. It's really easy, anyone can press shift or use concussion blast to boost
>>336699215
>paying for a F2P game
cuckold
>>336699215
You missed out on contracts and mann up mvm ;_;
/v/ defending a literal free to play game. That's pretty stupid even by this board's standards.
>>336699362
>playing a p2p game
cuck
>>336699546
whats the problem anime poster?
>>336699546
It's a good game though.
Just because people got bored of it doesnt mean it isn't good.
>>336688852
These are all objective truths.
>>336698883
>Your "kill streak" is really kills and assists
Who cares? Its an objective-based game, not TDM.
>Press q to win, ult doest reset on death
Its not press q to win, every ult is avoidable/counterable if you have a lick of sense
>6v6 is small, would be more fun 12v12
At that point, the game actually WOULD be press q to win as there'd be ultimates flying around 24/7. 6/6 is the best balance for this game.
>shitty hitreg/tickrate
I agree for pub servers, however private/custom lobbies are the same tickrate as TF2
>>336699758
So? You can just rework everything so it's balanced for 12v12. The only issue then is the maps are way too small
>>336699362
I'm sorry I should have waited several years for it to go F2P.
>>336663340
Well tf2 had a lot going for it but it took a large hit after it went f2p with the player base awfulness increasing in number, and only any of them git gud, others just right down cheated or polluted the playerbase.
Trading was entertaining but between Valve enforcing regional pricing, and limits and the metal dollar price ratio jumping off a cliff there was nothing good about it. Competitive mode arrived 6 years too late.
Overwatch is a novelty but it is overly gimmicky.
>>336699450
>dem paid achievements known as "contracts"
I got a mann up ticket for free and all I got was anal retentive shitheads who didn't even like playing the game mode. They were there solely for the rare chance at a 'valuable' but useless virtual item and were quite surly about it. I can't see the sense in it at all.
I would take TF2 over Overwatch any day of the week simply because of the visual clarity. Even after all the retarded shit they've added to TF2 it still has a much better art style that contributes to good gameplay.
>>336688015
You are retarded if you think that is what he meant, but you are probably the friendly hoovy "pls don't kill XD"
Go back to your f2p cancerpool, fag.
>mfw imagining how dull esports matches of overwatch are going to be
>>336688041
This, end of the debate.
>>336701482
can't be worse than league where literally nothing happens for the first 10 minutes
>>336684920
am i being rused
>>336690780
>I'M THE PINHEAD HERE, PAL!
>>336689821
What kill it for me was the increasing amount of bad players, and pub stompers. It happened what happens in every MP game, after a certain point the only way to increase your skill is to play in groups and have your social life based on it, so you can forget about just "jumping into a match" and have fun. Either you commit yourself to the game or stop being faglord and quit it.
MVM was fun...for a month, too bad new maps were never released further on, and after a while it became a grind run with Ruskies grinding for gold.
Trading was the final aspect, getting a key after a couple of good trades with a free item was rewarding, but then the ratio jumped, games were regionally locked, and there was no point to it anymore.
>>336692523
>there is nothing but killing people
>tfw all i do is help people kill people
noooo
so you tellin me
that
that
that i never played tf2
I like TF2 more because currently the Scout is more fun to play than anything in OW. The reason for this is that the Scout's skill ceiling is really high.
Overwatch right now is a shitfest of zero teamwork and it seems like the rounds are really short (even when the teams are even).
There slightly different but I would say both a good. I don't like the idea of insta kill ults though. I'd rather every character just have an extra skill instead.
>>336692523
see unlike overwatch tf2 has modding so there are several player run mods
>>336702445
Great medic, two shitty promo items that are worth cents, and go awful together too!
>>336667338
>Free
Fuck off neo-/v/.
TF2 has a pretty boring setting and characters which is why I never played it very much, but overwatch has a much more varied and interesting character and map selection
Dunno about you guys but I'll be putting 10x or more the time that I put into TF2 into Overwatch
>>336702578
you had to get the character from there buddy
>>336702610
>tripidiot
>telling others to fuck off
>secure trip
Morons like you are cancer.
>>336702840
Sure thing, buddy.
>>336702252
I can still just jump into a match and have fun and I have never taken part in any type for organized matches.
I've also never given a shit about items or trading so I don't see how stuff like that could have ruined the game either.
>>336699646
People got bored of it the same way people got bored of Tribes: Ascend. It just isn't the same game anymore.
>People complaining that hats ruined TF2
>As if Overwatch didn't have a completely fucked and chaotic aesthetic off the bat.
Like them or not, hats are how people personalized the characters to make them belong to "them". Sure, it robs the game of its original theme but it doesn't hurt that much and a lot of people like hats.
Meanwhile, Overwatch characters are a mess out of the box, and it's not even so you can personalize them. It's just because they're badly designed in the first place.
>>336702952
And bottom line about the waifus: one cartoon ass is as good as the next. If you can't give those characters any soul or humanity then who gives a single fuck.
I still really like TF2 even if the weapon balancing in the last few years has gone batshit crazy and reworking some sidegrades to the point where they function as brand new weapons. I dislike several things they have done in the last few years (Natasha making Heavy even tankier, Pyro getting a shitload of nerfs that were outright overkill, Quickiebomb Launcher's existence, focus on game modes with extremely finite novelty, etc.) but at it's core it's still a decent game and I only really wish that Valve actually fucking listens to their community. It should not have taken that long for LMAOBOX to be VAC-detectable and it feels like they're giving Scout a fuckton of indirect buffs by giving several classes nerfs that directly make their matchup against Scout significantly worse.
>TF2 is winning
All the more proof that /v/ is filled with contrarians.
TF2 is fucking dead, it's time to move on.
>>336702445
>he bothers with TF2's dress up minigame when the default character models are superior
>>336703502
>Game that's still on Steams list of most players playing right now
>Dead
I've got zero interest in this game and I think it looks like a cheap pixar movie clone of tf2.
But I'm gonna try it out before I start shitposting, but sit tight cus I'll be back in full force
>>336703354
I don't think you know a thing about waifus, bro. One "cartoon ass" is not as good as the next. Some of these characters actually have a good deal of soul. TF2 on the other hand is 10 years old and had plenty of time to flesh out it's characters.
>>336663340
overwatch is more polished, but tf2 is more fun to play
skill ceiling is higher for individual skill, while still staying class based
overwatch skill ceiling is pretty low, but its a fun fuck around game
desu i had more fun with dirty bomb
>>336703614
i just do it to get some certain characters that don't look out of place
moderate miscs anon
keep it simple and cool
>>336703808
Autists aren't real players.
>>336703614
I like the items that keep the overall ascetic of the original characters.
>>336682469
It tells you your contribution to the kill, if you want to complain about something like this complain about the pants on head lack of scoreboard
>>336663340
TF2 is a mechanically sound FPS
Overwatch is a waifu shooter. Blizzard should stick to MMOs
>>336683782
symmetra is an engineer yah dingus.
>builds little turrets
>makes shields
>builds teleporters
>>336703502
Blizz shills on suicide watch
>tfw friend says overwatch is fun or balanced
>>336704006
go to bed, mike morhaime
your autism rant was dumb 100 posts ago and it still is
>>336689902
>lanes
what lanes you stupid prick
>escort
oh you mean like the cart in tf2? yeah, really moba like
>>336682469
Scoreboards are too videogamey
>>336699224
>no shock and awe
tf2 has no shock and awe to it either. It's just as simple and easy to pick up. Only a couple of the new game modes (with grapple hooks) take more skill to be good at.
>>336704475
you're face is dumb
>>336704364
>He thinks he's qualified to know what fun is.
>He thinks TF2 is balanced.
>still whining about hats in 2016
>still whining about cosmetic/weapons when you can mod them out or find a vanilla server
>still whining about f2p boogeyman when the game was already filled with bad players before and you can just look for better servers
tf2 is still the same game, you're just lazy
>>336686838
The memories. I wish they would make a new one, but people would just let it die again. There is no hope.
Maybe one day Valve decides to be a good guy again and adds objectives to TF2.
Tf2 is taking ages to download on my grandparents internet
