Who do you think is the hardest Soulsborne boss?
Fume Knight
Orphan or Ludwig.
Definitely not NK
Ornstein and Smough.
Only ones that made me drop the whole game for a while.
>>336654964
Orphan
Toughest in BB which is the toughest Souls type game.
>>336654964
Orphan
>LMAO just let me 1 hit kill you in ng+ :))))
Fucking artificial difficulty i tell you
>>336654964
>tfw i beat him solo today
>>336654964
Pinwheel.
>>336655847
You sound squishy
Ludwig van Moonlight
>Trains your muscle memory to dodge quick attacks
>Second phase fucks up your timing by adding quick and slow attacks with delays
>Fuckton of damage
>Lots of HP
>Fucking up once or twice means death
>Doesn't have bullshit one-shots, just tight dodging window on ONE attack (charge) and the rest is learning the patterns and blind spots
>Tests how much you can learn in one fight by adding a second phase that is a direct opposite to the first one
Whether it was on purpose or not, he is gameplay-wise one of the most well designed bosses in all Souls games. Not to mention that the mere thought of who he IS as a character in the story just adds that much more impact to the fight.
He's the Healing Church's Gherman.
>>336654964
Who do you think is the handsomest boss?
I personally got stuck on Biggie Smalls and Ludwig the longest, but I think Orphan of Kos is mechanically the most difficult. After playing every Soulsborne game a stupid number of times, he's one of the few bosses that still kinda worries me.
Nameless King slapped my shit around for an hour or so, but he's actually not that bad once you get used to him. I find Champion Gundyr harder than him.
>>336656085
Gwyndolin desu senpai
the Camera
>>336656259
You have complete control of the camera. If you're having trouble with it, it means you are shit.
That faggot Taurus demon killed me about 10 times but all the other bosses either died on my first time or took at most 3
definitely the bed of chaos
Not fucking Nameless Shitter, for sure. Maybe Orphan or Ludwig.
>>336655026
lol one of the easier bosses in ds2.
>>336656357
>dragon flies over you for one move that isn't even an attack, and doesnt even have a follow up attack or anything
>camera unlocks
WAA WAA THE CAMERA IS RUINING THIS FIGHT ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY
Seriously though it has no impact on the fight whatsoever.
Something about me fighting Orphan just clicks and I never have trouble with him, even killed him at NG+6 in only two tries
Feels all right man. I think DeS gankgoyles took me the most tries out of any boss across all 5 games.
>>336654964
No. He was tough, but an 8/10 on the hard scale when compared to at least 4 9/10's and a couple 10/10's. Orphan of Kos being the hardest. Literally fuck the Orphan of Kos. Fuck that fucking homo.
Armored Spider
Nothing is more deadly than the unknown, and nobody knew anything about Demon's Souls.
>>336656862
Did you mean to reply to someone else?
>>336656912
>this
>tough
kill urself my man
>>336656979
i meant to say "why do retards whine about this so much, dude" or something idk
probably would have made more sense to respond directly to the baby
If we're excluding FRC dungeons I would say Laurence from BB and Pontiff on Souls 3(depending on what you have available)
>>336657047
Fucking this, my major enemy on that fight was the frames dying the whole time because my computer is shitty
>>336655026
Everyone says he's hardest but I think I had more trouble with Alonne than him. I've only beaten them with one character, though.
>>336654964
fume knight
not even orphan killed me more that 6 times. fume knight took me 12 tries
on first tries I died about 40 times to manus, 30 to O&S and 20 to flamelurker
nothing else has given me much trouble
haven't played BB though
>>336654964
After co-oping through Nameless at least 50 times, I've found that the people who die to him the most are the kinds of people that fall into one of these habits.
Shield forever and never put it down unless to attack.
Or they roll mindlessly while Nameless is readying an attack rather than rolling when Nameless is actually attacking. Like Nameless brings his swordspear up and they just start rolling and don't stop until the attack is done, which usually results in them being hit.
Both types of people die while trying to heal off that hit.
>>336657047
>game is not hard when already know the fight
wow anon you are so good at this
>it's a "my hardest boss is harder than your hardest boss" thread
>>336657872
>His hard boss isn't harder than my hard boss
Lmao
>>336657643
play BB if you can. best story, music, bosses
>>336656037
>that mid-fight cutscene
>music ramps up to 11
>>336654964
Fume K***ht
>>336657810
if you dont know how to fight at that boss yet then you should kill urself my man
>>336657872
>implying Covetus demon is harder than Orphan of Kos
>>336658205
>Telling someone to commit suicide over inadequacy at a videogame.
Come on guy, is that really necessary?
>>336658368
go back to red dit
>>336657810
To qualify for hardest boss it still needs to be hard to execute even after you've learned it. Plenty of bosses are just hard to learn and after you've beaten them once they're mostly trivial in subsequent playthroughs.
>>336657810
Man bosses in DS3 were underwhelming as fuck except for champion Gundyr, Lothric Prince, Pontiff and Aldritch
>>336658447
>still thinks reddit is censored
>>336658447
Go back to Kindergarten, as you've clearly skipped out on basic fucking manners and the ability to properly interact with other people.
>>336658485
>champion gundyr
>not underwhelming
>>336658532
>i can't time my rolls
>i can't parry telegraphed attacks
>>336658578
I think you misread
>>336658485
only Pontiff was hard out of those
>>336658618
I quoted the wrong guy, it was meant for >>336658485
>>336658685
Ah, gotcha
>>336655847
Orphan isn't artificial difficulty. You under leveled because you think you have to prove something instead of upping your vitality and having the best boss fight ever. Its one of those fights where I got my ass kicked over and over but every time I just got more and more excited and every death was deserved
>>336658252
I don't think anyone's gonna argue that, but I'm definitely with >>336658532
Gundyr was a massive disappointment after I read everyone on /v/ creaming their jeans over his bitch ass for a week; meanwhile that chode Dragonslayer Armor gave me a hell of a lot more grief than I was prepared for.
>>336658636
It's funny to me that you say that because he was the easiest for me of my shitty list
>>336658532
Mostly because he is aggressive as fuck, bullshit 5 hit combo and that fucking kick and elbow and thinking in retrospect i should had used better armor than the firekeeper set
>>336658737
I only found the butterfly thing helping him to be annoying but the armor was really easy too
>EUUUUUUGHH
What did he mean by this?
FUCK my words
>>336658721
His moveset is literally Artorias on steroids, my only concern is that he hits fucking hard on ng+ and my health was never a problem until Kos
>>336658971
>What did he mean by this?
The same thing as a human child babbling and screeching, it's just nonsense that can't be put into words because Orphan is basically a toddler, he might be large but all his time was spent in a rotting corpse and he has no outside experience or knowledge, you basically just kill a retarded manchild with super powers.
>>336658971
>EEAYYYYYYYYYAH!
The Orphans screams are etched into my psyche
>>336656663
>BB
Fuck off pleb, adults are talking
>>336659181
He's an infant, probably died very very young. I love the orphan, it's such a powerful boss fight, really intense and at the same time sad and tragic. Fits the game like a glove
>>336656912
>THAT NO PICKLE PEE
>>336659181
Why does he shoot highly damaging bubble gum all over the place in his second phase?
>>336662641
The hammer always seemed like shit compared to serrated weapons. Am I missing something?
>>336654964
this guy right here, like 50 fucking tries before i had to summon dudes and even then, half of them died constantly.
>soulsborne
Laurence by far. I still hate that bastard.
Orphan never gave me any trouble.
Sunburned Albino.
>>336658487
not him but I tried posting the same text a few days ago and it was marked as spam and 4chins refused to let me post it
>>336654964
Ludwig. No question.
But hopefully you realize that this is an rpg with a wide variety of potential builds and different runs can almost feel like you're playing another game.
I think Bloodborne is the only one people will be able to sort of agree on because the build variety is much smaller.
>>336662641
Damn that's a good edit.
>>336663121
do not anger the sonybros
>>336657810
Go make a similarly easy win video for Orphan, no anon, I'll wait. Go head prove me wrong.
>>336663208
It's the truth. Bloodborne is probably the best souls game imo but you can't argue that the build variety isn't nearly non existent compared to the other ones.
Am I the only one who thinks Ludwig is not even that hard?
For me it's Flamelurker. Now grated if I go back and play now hes not to much of an issue but when Demons Souls came out? Was stuck on him for a fucking week. No other souls boss has stumped me like that
>>336656037
Yeah, this. Ludwig is the best boss I've ever fought in video games, not just Souls. That fight just never gets old.
No votes for ancient dragon? Retarded health with even more retarded hit boxes.
>>336658971
>MOMMY!!!!!!!
>>336663450
I honestly forgot about that boss because of how horrible it is.
>>336663121
Bloodborne has more build variety than quality souls 3
I'm torn between Allant, Manus and Orphan, since they're the only ones I had to actually try a lot. I'm probably gonna go with Orphan, probably just because there's no blocking in Bloodborne and you have to get gud.
No Watchdog of the Old Lords in the Defiled Chalice dungeon?
>>336663791
Yeah sure whatever you say bud.
>Light armor guy with hammer
>Light armor guy with cane
>Light armor guy with saw.
>>336663121
This is true. I had problems beating Manus, so I just decided to go full Havel with Iron Flesh on him and he became a non-issue. In Bloodborne you don't have a lot of choice.
>>336657660
I try to roll at just the right time but his attacks are so odd and have a bit of last second hesitation that baits me into an early roll. On top of that the 1st stage with the dragon is unfair, i cant see jack shit with the bad camera angles and end up wasting half my estus beforehand if the RNG gods hate me.
Needed a summon to beat the fucker.
>>336663937
>light armor guy with greatsword
>light armor guy with straight sword
>light armor guy with spear
BB has more weapon types
>>336662849
Hammer has bonus damage vs unholy enemies which is pretty much exclusively cainhurst enemies so it's fucking trash for most of the game.
>>336663937
>anything other than quality build is not viable
>>336654964
Frigid Outskirts + Lud and Zallen with no lifegems.
>>336664101
>Everyone plays light armor
>PVP is the only aspect of the game
>Shields don't exist
>Magic miracles and pyromancy aren't a thing
>>336654964
CRF HMPH is by far the hardest boss, it's not even a competition.
>>336664176
Yes. You can in fact play the game without darksword or estoc. I know it may be hard to believe.
>>336655690
>Toughest in BB which is the toughest Souls type game.
>>336664101
>being retarded
maybe you want to argue they're of better viability on average, but dont say objectively wrong shit
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Weapons
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/weapons
Just look at the difference
>bb has 27 main hand weapons
>Das3 has over 100
>>336654964
Nameless. Rekt my fucking shit I tell you but it was so satisfying when I finally beat him.
>>336664176
If the only metric you're going by is the viability of various builds Dark Souls 2 would be the best game in the franchise.
>>336664452
What is the hardest souls game if not bloodborne?
>>336664238
I've been using a lothric greatshield in one hand and the butcher knife in the other, for some reason that weapon seems to chain-stagger people on every single swing
Feels unbalanced honestly
>>336664506
over 100 where 90% are garbage and not worth using with boring as fuck movesets
>>336664547
Balance and variety are not the same thing if that's what you were getting at.
>>336664271
What the fuck is CRF HMPH
>BLOODBORNE IS HARDEST
https://youtu.be/WjmnNLcA5xQ
This shit exists, thanks consoles.
>>336664656
Pthumerian elder makes weird noises.
>>336664594
>bb has more weapon types
>get btfo
>b-but they're not worth using
protip, in DaS3 just about every weapon is viable. just because it doesnt have edgy swiss army knife saw blades doesnt make it less so
>>336664618
Well you said no-one uses light armour or shields, and that's exactly what I've been doing, it works.
My point was that people tend to follow whatever meme build they see their favourite streamer do that week, the meta rotates from estoc, chaos blade, dark knight sword etc around and around, but most things are pretty viable if you're not mindless. Variety exists, it's just limited by the creativity of the playerbase
>>336664656
This nigga
>>336664536
Probably Demon's. I don't know, I just don't get people saying BB was that hard. After getting used to the whole, "Look out! This boss is fast!" gimmick, it was pretty much a breeze.
>>336654964
He kept fucking me cause I got greedy once he was below a quarter. His bird was a bigger pain in the ass given how easy it is to whiff if his head decides to bob just out of range as you attack.
>>336664709
>>336664750
I never really paid any attention to his noises. Also, he's easy as piss, all his moves are parryable.
>>336664712
Technically bb still has more weapon types if you compare the 2. There's over 100 weapons but half of them are greatswords and straight swords
>>336664594
Just like how every single weapon in bloodborne isn't worth using over the starting Axe?
>>336654964
nah, gerhman was harder.
>>336664731
I wasn't trying to say that no one uses them. I was trying to say that the option to do otherwise is there as opposed to BB which is more limited. It's true people tend to gravitate towards certain things and some are better than others but you can say the same about Bloodborne.
>>336664816
>throws boomerangs through wall
>dead
I mean, sure, if you're good at not getting hit once
Defiled Chalice Aymgdala.
No other boss in Souls' history forces your hand quite as much.
It took me a while but I eventually beat it without taking a single hit.
I told you not to anger the sony fanboys
Why didn't you listen?
>>336664847
>being wrong on the internet
>>336664909
How would you even manage to get him behind a wall if you're parrying all his attacks? He almost always just runs right up to you and swings. He's predictable as a slug.
>>336664935
There are still more weapon types in BB
Orphan of Kos's health pool, seriously. He wouldn't have been anywhere near as hard if he wasn't such a massive damage sponge. High attack + High HP in a game where the armour does piss all, it's a fight of attrition once you learn the not very hard to grasp moveset. Biggest disappointment of the DLC
>>336664656
Cursed
Rotted
Fetid
something
Pthumerian Elder
>>336655690
Demon's Souls is the hardest Souls game you fucking faggot
>>336664985
>being wrong again on the internet
keep in mind these tabs are sparsely populated too
>mfw orphan of kos in any ng+
>>336665019
He's not that bad if you parry him.
>>336664750
>>336664909
>>336664980
He was very hard for me until I realised that not only are a lot of his attacks parryable, but that you can bait them out simply by locking on and back-pedalling.
He'll charge at you and raise his arm a lot of the time.
>>336665070
Demons was only hard because nobody had any experience with souls games at the time. Going back to it, the game is by far the easiest.
>>336665104
should be the tagline for the entire franchise
>>336665105
True, I just don't take the risk since he can take me out in what is usually 2-4 hits
>>336656085
Dragon-Layer Ornstein
>>336665019
That could be said for almost all the bosses in BB. Seriously, that's the entire reason people say the DaS3 bosses are easy. They don't have enough health and they don't inflict enough damage. It's like they're asking for moreartificial difficulty.
>>336665093
Each of the trick weapons could be considered a weapon class of their own. Both their transformed and untransformed state have more diverse movesets than anything in any Souls game.
I think it's pretty obvious that the game with fewer stats in general would have less build variety. When you have fewer things to invest your level ups in, naturally players are going to end up spending points similarly because there's less room to branch out. In terms of pure melee, Bloodborne definitely stands out because of how unique almost every weapon is, and Strength and Dexterity/Skill is carried over pretty much identically from DaS. But Arcane is just a severely simplified rendition of magic, and Bloodtinge has no real counterpart in Souls, but it exists in BB almost exclusively as a stat for your long-ranged parry to scale off of, with just a few main weapons scaling from it. If you want a bloodtinge build, you have like, five weapons you could use, maybe.
On top of that, a lack of equip load means you have to make fewer sacrifices, as armour just doesn't matter, nor does the weight of your weapon, because that doesn't exist. You also can't equip whatever you want in whichever hand, the hand you equip the weapon in is determined by the weapon. You don't even get to choose whether or not you want to two-hand your own weapon, that is another thing that is determined by the weapon. Only some weapons have you hold them in two hands as a part of their transformation.
You also don't even get the choice between defense and evasion in BB like you do in DaS. It's all evasion. It makes for a more thrilling action game and a more fun combat system when paired with how unique the weapons are, ultimately a better game, I think, but there just isn't as much variety. There's really no reason to even take offense to that as a fan of Bloodborne, games focus too much on just being bigger and more expansive rather than tightly designed these days.
Ludwig, Orphan, maybe Nameless King and Manus.
>>336665093
you're one dumb nigger if you categorize weapon types based on that. Also tells me you haven't played bb
>>336665130
Maybe it's just because I played it significantly more than any other game but Das1 still feels the easiest to me.
I would probably rank it something like this.
BB>DaS2 SOTFS>DaS3>DaS2>DaS1
Anyone who doesn't say orphan or ludwig is straight up meming or hasn't played BB
The closest thing to them was pre patch 1.04 Ornstein and smough because of the terrible lock on mechanics
>>336665189
If he kills you that easily, than wouldn't it be better to get good at parrying so you can have much safer damage potential?
Usually dodging and attacking in openings leaves you with little stamina, and the punish for a missed opportunity is just as bad as a missed parry.
>>336656085
Lady Maria or Priscilla.
>>336665389
I want to marry Priscilla.
![49LNaIU[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/4Gl12AD.png "49LNaIU[1].png")
This or Ancient Dragon took the most tries in my case, though I heard the latter's health pool and / or 1HKO moves got nerfed in later patches. DaS2 bosses in general wiped the floor with me on many occasions, especially the DLC area ones. I have no idea how I'm usually dying to completely different bosses than the majority.
DeS: Flame Fucker
DaS1: Gwyn (I didn't use spells and didn't know about parrying bosses)
DaS2: Blue Smelter
DaS3: Pontiff
Overall game difficulty
DaS2 > DaS1 > DeS > DaS3
though if I replayed DeS it might actually be the easiest nowadays due to what >>336665130 said.
Soulsborne?
Has to be ebrietas, only boss that actually had me worried and "scared" of her attacks
That chilling fucking theme will forever be stuck in my head
Fuck her though,honestly the hardest boss for me ever
>Directly comparing an action game that employs(badly)minor amounts of RPG elements with an actual RPG
Someday you'll look back and laugh at how dumb you were
>>336665491
Do you think it's her dress or fur?
>>336665564
That's fur anon. She's basically an exhibitionist.
>>336665557
You're right. People shouldn't compare Dark Souls 3 where the only build is quality to Bloodborne
>>336665564
Both sound good to me.It's a dress made out of her fur.
>>336655629
literally beat them on my second try lol.
Don't mind me just capable of killing you and every other soulsborne boss at the same time.
>>336665329
You didn't list DeS?
Orphan of Koss, thathe Fulkerson never stops attacking
Orphan of Kos.
>>336654964
Orphan for me.
Bloodborne is consistently harder for me in general, though. Even though I don't use a shield in the Souls games, being aggressive makes them very easy, where as they expect it more in Bloodborne. That, and challenge runs simply felt harder. Maybe my DaS3 SL1 run will change that, but with raw weapons, I don't count on it.
![3050148-champion_gundyr_guide_site_feature[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nvLAuxh.jpg "3050148-champion_gundyr_guide_site_feature[1].jpg")
What was his fucking problem?
>>336666282
He's defending his title belt.
>>336666282
The champ's gotta defend his title. You don't stomp into Mike Tyson's house, scream "I'm the heavyweight champion of the world" and not expect him to punch your lights out.
>>336666342
Only one man can take him down, and his name is JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHN CEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>336666282
You stole the man's cookies.
That's not right, anon.
>>336665531
What are those red pus bubble things on her face?
>>336666390
>tfw gundyr didn't fuck me till i loved him
>>336666440
Wigglies, a vital organ for any eldritch horror, along with grabbers, sharps, and oozers.
>>336666440
All the Great Ones look like they have every STD known to man. H.P Lovecraft had issues.
I suck so much at these games, it's unreal. I am at cathedral deep and I can barely get pass that dual wielding asshole with the hood, and then there's a second one a bit later. he's harder than any of the bosses at this point for me
>>336666675
Just parry him:^)
>>336666524
Did he eat your asshole alive you bitch?
DaS3: Champion Gundyr, Soul of Cinder, Nameless King, Pontiff Sulayvahn
BB: Orphan of Kos, Ebrietas, Defiled Amygdala, Defiled Watchdog
DaS2: Sinh, Sir Alonne, Darklurker, Fume Knight
DaS: Artorias, Kalameet, Manus, Ornstein and Smough
DeS: False King, Flamelurker, Maneaters, penetrator
My overall thoughts on difficulty:
1. Old Hunters, if only because Orphan of Kos is the hardest boss in the series, I found ludwig to be around the same level as the more challenging dark souls 3 bosses, but not on the same level as nameless king.
I feel that half of BB's difficulty came from the ridiculous health bars of bosses, nowhere was this more noticeable than with laurence, orphan of kos and ebrietas. In addition, unlike any other game, I felt like the difference of like 5 vitality made more difference than any other game in bloodborne, as it could turn a boss like ebrietas or ludwig from really annoying to trivial because they had a lot of instant kill attacks. While I listed the defiled bosses, I don't actually consider them difficult, rather they're just utilising artificial difficulty through removed health.
Dark Souls 3 has what I'd consider the most "engaging" difficulty out of any release title in the series, whereby it starts out slower and less challenging, before ramping it up mid game and the end game being a lot more tough.
Dark Souls 2's difficulty is relative to many things, while the bosses are mechanically more simple, the adp stat can ruin your day, and the dlc bosses have a unique feeling of utilising delayed timings to a level I hadn't really felt on another boss in the series, whether that is fair or not though is questionable.
Dark Souls and Demons Souls by comparison actually feel fairly trivial now, the bosses are for the large part mechanically simple and easy to manoeuvre round, they telegraph a fuckton as well.
OH>DaS3>BB>DaS2>DaS>DeS
The distinction between OH and BB is very important
Headless Bloodletting Beast
Chalice Amygdala
>Not one mention of defiled hotdog
Casuals killed this series
>>336662849
can't dirk the kirk
>>336665070
Apart from a few sections of pure bullshit (4-way rolling screwing you during Maneaters, Black Phantoms and Giant Depraved Ones in the swamp of no rolling) it's by far the easiest for regular gameplay and the easiest to cheese.
>>336654964
>soulsborne
stop
>>336665070
demon's souls is easier than das2
>>336664656
this a CRF HMPH
>>336665229
Your parents must be so disappointed
I'd probably kill my self if I had a child as gay as you
>>336665019
Did you fight him on NG+?
Because NG+ DLC really feels like it was balanced around having nearly top tier gems, on NG he wasn't so bad.
>>336665683
with magic or summons?
>>336656085
Sif
>>336655629
>tfw beat them with a bow and arrow on 5th try
Ornstein and Smough
DS1 was my first souls game and i just bruteforced my way all the way up to O&S without learning proper parrying and my roll timings being not the best.
Took me literally about 50 tries. Fuck the Smough charge into upswing
>>336665263
It's sad that BB is the only game you can make a weapon do whatever element you want without subjecting it to Split Damage, AND even have it scale off your magic stat.
Why does an elemental infusion in Dark Souls only make half of it do fire damage (thus making enemy defenses work twice, severely hurting its efftive damage) and half of the infusions lose all scaling.
There's no reason to use a fire weapon except against very fire-weak enemies because of shitty split damage. In BB it's equally as effective as a physical weapon but against different enemies since it's not being reduced twice, and you get arcane scaling.
![maxresdefault[5].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xclvGIp.jpg "maxresdefault[5].jpg")
Was he autistic?
>>336668342
He was in Dark Souls 2 so of course he was.
>>336666860
> BBs boss health bars
Some I agree with (Fuck NG+ and beyond Laurence) but most of the time there's always a way to deal huge damage to them. Humanoids you party them, big monster types you usually hit the head. Some others have different mechanics, like injuring Beasts limbs or a specific item which gives you free hits (Blood Cocktails makes BSB and Paarl/Loran Darkbeast so much easier).
Eribritas doesn't have that much health, with the right setup you can kill her in seconds even on NG+
Mirror knight for some reason
>>336654964
Kalameet, imo.
Still never beat that guy after a few tries. I dunno, his attacks just have a giant reach and he has lots of health in general.
Sir Alonne by far if you don't fight him with a shield.
Also Headless Bloodletting Beast in the Chalice Dungeons
>>336668342
>crossguard bending into his arm
REE
>>336659049
so dreamy
>>336668342
He got his ass beat by his best friend, found a waifu and became one of the toughest bosses in the series.
So yeah hes basically autistic
>>336668573
Dis guy and old king alant.
Haven't played BB and still running through DaS3 tho, but so far DaS3 seems to be DaS2 tier easy and I dont expect BB to be any different
>>336654964
>those cool dual katanas you get in the archives
>sharp gem
>hurts damage, doesn't improve scaling
>literally a straight downgrade to infuse it with no upshot
Why?
>>336668738
BB is definitely harder, and its made even worse if you're already a souls veteran. You have to fight your own muscle memory
>>336658971
I can never take Orphan seriously. He looks like a monstrous version of Wojak.
>>336667739
Is that what average PvP match looks like in BB? no wonder it was a failure.
>>336668773
Dude quality lmao
>>336668897
Kek I had the same problem for 2 to 3 hours in DaS3 especially after DaS2 with 105agi but I got used pretty quick to it
Used to be a shield scrub too for DeS and I swapped out of it midway thru DaS1. I think the biggest challenge in these games is too get used to feeling squishy.
Even tho I bought it at launch, I almost have not time to play so I'm still finishing the game.
But Pontius is fucking me up (also because I get like 20fps fighting him with a stupid input delay).
How does Pontius compares to future bosses?
I had no troubles at all in DeS, DaS1 or 2 including DLC's.
>>336668773
its a trap for weebs
>>336655629
1st try. I was a bit overleveled at that point though since I kept dying to the dragon bow assholes a lot so I had the black knight greataxe+5 when I double shotted Ornstein and then just easily chopped at Smough.
>>336667673
>defiled puppers
>difficult
Loving every kek.
>>336665229
Got the full rez?
>>336669167
I'd love to hear what you consider difficult
I beat him SL1 and it wasnt even the hardest
get fucking good
>>336669239
Any boss that abuses bugs in the game engine - attacks through objects, shockwaves, etc.
Warm Canine has a fully open arena and an easy to read moveset. There's no excuse for getting shit on unless you're a Greedy Gus.
Don't ask me why as nobody seems to share this opinion but the blue smelter demon in the DS2 dlc gave me by far the most trouble out all of them.
>>336669389
>There's no excuse for getting shit on
He has a massive health pull, and is the only boss that will kill you in one mistake. Amygalda is the same but easier to read / avoid.
>>336655690
>There are shitters in this thread that had trouble with orphan
Reminder that pewdiepie beat orphan first try
>>336669589
And? What does a youtube celebrity have to do with a boss being difficult?
>>336669589
So? Just because he annoys you doesn't have anything to do with his skill at video games.
>>336654964
first hunter
>>336669589
Watch his livestream, he's actually pretty gud. He edits down 6 hours of footage to only 5 minutes of just his fuckups
The one i died to most times was gargoyles on DaS because i didnt know you could sprint. Could not estus up or avoid the flames because of this.
>>336669589
No he didn't. There is a clear cut in the video where you can see he has no blood echos after his first attempt. Obviously took him a while.
>>336657047
That whole webm the boss attacked twice with 2 slow charge attacks in a row. If he did that for me yes i would be able to knock half his health off.
>>336655629
I never had any trouble against biggie and smalls, they had low HP on their first form, and the second forms had mega telegraphed attacks. Specially Smough.
>People actually saying Ludwig is hard
>People actually think that fight is difficult
I know half of /v/ are old men now but jesus fuck if you have even a semi decent reaction speed you will crush his first phase. Second phase took me 2 tries.
Kos is the hardest boss due to sheer speed and how he forces you to play like a bitch until you've seen everything he has. Then you shitstomp him because BB's stamina is fucking nuts
>>336656482
Sounds like you gotgud after the first boss
This boss would be a lots easier if this fucking camera wasn't so shit
>>336667873
ofc not
Haven't played through all of BB or DeS, but for my money, its gotta be Ancient Dragon and/or Kalameet. Ancient Dragon is the only Souls boss I've just plain given up on and never beat.
>>336672267
This.
I love this game, but the camera in the first act of the boss is shit. The second act was so much better, even though I after a while 'adapted' and made the first act easy, it still isn't very well designed.
Did anybody at all have trouble with Prince lothric? Easiest boss in das3
Wait..
I'm at NK...
And I just realized Bone Shards are for ALL bonfires...
Not just one...
Fuck..
Me...
>>336654964
he'd be a strong contender if it weren't for the bad lock on/camera issues and the first phase which is tedious as fuck after the third time.
>>336672787
I didn't but he killed me 3 times.
Easiest boss was either the retarded tree or the AW.
Anyone else having trouble kicking in this game?
It's super unreliable.
Des: Bell Gargoyles
DaS: 4Kings
DaS2: Smelter Demon
DaS3: Nameless King's camera
>>336654964
Orphan of Kos honestly. I like that Miyazaki and From stood their ground and didn't nerf it like they did every boss in Dark Souls 1 and 2.
The general trick to "hardest boss ever" in Souls games is to do the following:
>unnatural looking swings that require the player to memorize what they look like, since the momentum of the animation makes no logical sense
>extremely high damage
>constant attacks that practically never stop beyond small amounts of frames when the boss is pivoting to begin another attack pattern
>hyper armor that is either infinite or unreasonably high
>camera problems that make it tedious to try to see what's even happening
>big ass AoEs or swings that have either 360 degree coverage or next to 360 coverage; bonus points if it's a big dumb cyclone attack that can potentially hit up to 10 times that no one can have the stamina to dodge out of entirely without having not been near it in the first place
In my experience, these are the traits of "hard bosses" in Souls games. Most of it is just cheating or general bullshit. That some people fetishize things like the Orphan boss is disconcerting. Hearing people like Peeve relive warms memories of doing nothing but trying to fight the same boss for hours at a time is embarrassing.
>>336672787
Thought it was harder than NK. I would run out of estus on Lothric all the time but NK went down long before I ran out of supplies on my first run.
DeS: Flamefucker
DaS1: Artorias/Drake & Josh
DaS2: Ancient Dragon (still haven't killed him)
DaS3: I honestly had the most trouble with the Old Demon King
>>336673529
They need to buff some of the bosses in DaS3. Abyss Watchers, Lothric Princes, Soul of Cinder phase 2 etc. need more health so badly. Especially since AW and SoC can get staggered.
Abyss Watchers is seriously just a depressing fight. The entire area is fucking dogshit and they aren't even hard.
Asylum Demon
>>336654964
Most trouble I had in 3 was pontiff
Most trouble I had overall is probably Orphan
>>336665718
>one attack the boss
Wasn't even a boss fight. More a tiresome chore of weeding his giant HP bar down as he repeats the same aerial one-hit KO fire attack that nearly covers the whole, over and over. What a coward.
Ebrietas by far. Havent seen anyone ever who called that fight easy. And if you do. You're lying and you know it.
Dark souls 3 easiest game in the entire series. Not one boss killed me more than 5 times
1. Alonne
2. Lud and Zallen
3. Manus
4. Ornstein and Smough
5. Maneater
For me at least. Nothing in DaS3 was especially hard.
>>336654964
Taurus Demon.Until I learned that shields with 100% physical reduction actually worked against something like this guy
>>336673974
>Not one boss killed me more than 5 times
What's with you stupid faggots and equating how good a Souls game is to how many times you die? You're the cancer that created the DaS2 Firekeeper meme.
>>336672787
And there are retards writing 'tears ahead' etc right before the boss room, I was quite disappointed with that fight. The second stage was good but the prince's sword attacks are just far too easy to avoid
>>336673974
I literally oneshotted that boss though and I really have no reason to lie about it on a fucking weeb imageboard.
I did die right at the same time with Ebrietas though, luckily I didn't have to kill it again.
>>336674030
>Npc laughs for no reason, suspiciously
Checked so hard that they all stopped laughing.
Every single npc in the game laughs after you're done talking with them.
>>336668975
>it was a failure
what?
>>336674063
Didnt say that. It was less than the others games because its much shorter, bosses are forgettable plus they are easy as shit.
>>336672827
Can you still reinforce them beyond +10? Not that you'd ever fucking need to, but just curious.
>>336674681
I've gone through the whole game unreinforced
>>336654964
Orphan and Gascoigne when your new to BB.
>>336673723
This desu. I feel like this would be where boss difficulty is finalised in previous games but they just started off at this level for 3. It's kind of disappointing. The DLC bosses are always good though (not counting the coop routes in DaS2 but they were made by literal unpaid interns at the behest of Namco when From wasn't that keen on them) soI have hope. The DLCs better be huge though considering there's like a 6 month wait between the two.
Flamelurker gave me a bitch and a half of a time when I first fought him. I dropped demons souls for three month cuz of him. Then I went in with a spear, two handed that bitch, put my sticky white stuff on there and rammed it up his dick hole...then got my shit punched in by Dragon God
>>336674030
is there a boss mob in this one? The closest I can think of is Crystal Sage.
>>336674841
Are they making 3 DLC's like in DaS2?
>>336674030
Somehow dogsin 3 managed to be the easiest out of all the dogs for me. DaS1 dogs take the cake but DeS dogs still give me nightmares from when I first played it.
>>336668975
Do you mean PvP in Bloodborne or Bloodborne as a whole? Because as a whole the game did excellent, sold over 2 million copies.
