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Fellow quality friends, what is your weapon of choice? DS3 seems to have a lot of


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Fellow quality friends, what is your weapon of choice? DS3 seems to have a lot of options, but lately I've been using pic related.
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>>336623043
ithryll rapier
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>>336623043
100% with you. At level 75 I still occasionaly one shot.

>that sexy slam when coming out of a roll.
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even if its shit
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SSS, literally the best weapon in the game
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HALBERD BEST BIRD
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>>336623228
what do you like about the irithyll rapier vs. ricard's or estoc?
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>>336623707
idk
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>>336623345
looks cool at least
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carthus curved sword with a hollow quality bleed build

i shit you not i do 8k damage on some bosses in 1 combo

pretty handy in pvp too since its fast a fuck
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>>336623043
Is this really that good? I mean it has worse damage than a Lothric Greatsword or even normal straight swords/curved swords or curved greatswords.
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I've been using the Barbed Sword with Carthus Rouge. Seems incredibly annoying.
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I use the flamberge
With buckler fire buff it
If you use a dark sword
Gundyr Halberd
Washing pole
Farron gs
Or Fucking dragonslayer great axe you need to just die
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>>336623043
Wolf greatword is my main jam
though I found out a few days ago that the greatsword weapon (AKA the dragon slayer) is actually a quality weapon, and has C C at +10, and it does ridiculous damage; so I've been using that without a shield, and it's really fun and surprising viable for PVP
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>>336624286
It's got huge sweeps, incredibly light, decently quick, has a charge that is great for catching up and punishing estus attempts and gets S scaling with lightning infuse. It 's basically a greatsword that only got the UGS can it's fucking huge.
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Used the Claymore for my first playthrough. On NG+ I used the Black Knight Greataxe which was fun since I just rolled instead of blocking. Claymore is still my favorite though, especially since I was able to throw Great Magic Weapon on it.

I used the Dark Sword and Havel's Greatshield when I was just trying to get covenant items. It's cheap but hey, it worked. And if such a shit weapon works on people they kinda deserve to lose. No one parries in this game, it's ridiculous. And despite two separate rings and weapons built entirely around getting past shields people would mindlessly try to R1 spam me. I'd feel worse about using such a shit combo if people would actually try to counter it.
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>>336623043
Lucerne
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>>336624718
>Tried switching to demon fists, since im sick of the dark sword
>range is complete shit
>stunlock isnt even good enough to land the finisher for the special arts ever
Fists were so damn fun in ds2 too why the fuck did they make them so shit. The only thing I can think of next is drang hammers since thats kinda like fists but with maybe enough reach to actually be decent.
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Greatsword all day errday. At +10 on a 40/40 build my AR is like 625 or something nuts. I pretty much two shot all the people who say "vigor ends at 27". and seeing every weapon has a 2 hit "combo" most people are done the second I hit them.
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>>336625070
So it's as fast as a greatsword that's why it has lower damage?
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Longsword will always be my go to weapon in Souls
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>>336625306
no way? is that lloyds and leo ring making it do that damage?
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>>336625626
Just Leo ring.
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Is Gundyr's Halberd a good quality weapon? It looked fly as fuck on a phnatom I summoned.
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Uchigatana all day
Notched whip for fun
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>>336625672
I thought Leo Ring only applies to thrust attacks, or is it all attacks for weapons that have thrust attacks?
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>>336623043
I also used the Astora Greatsword for a quality build my first playthrough with refined infusement. I got my ass kicked PvE but PvP it's fucking great, people can't deal with the wide sweep.
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>>336625775
Every attack for lucerne in thisgame is thrust
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>>336625574
Yeah. And it's charge weapon art hits very hard compared to the spear version.
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>>336623043
The Wolf's Greatsword; I love the weapon arts for that thing. Can equip the Artorias armor and just go nuts.
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base knight sword quick slashes with a nice stab I love it
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>>336625574
No, the swings are as slow as any regular UGS, and have the same stamina cost for the moves if I recall correctly.

As >>336625902 says,
the charge is great though.
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>>336623043
Refined claymore is a real mans weapon.
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Refined Dark Sword
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>>336625734
I believe at +5 it gets a B in Str and a C in Dex
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>decent scaling

>great reach

>good poking

>slashy attacks

>fast roll attack

>no one expects it

Super underrated in ever souls game
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>>336626091
Don't forget your uniform famalam
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Wolf knight great sword for surprise flip attacks
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Yhorm's Machete. Yes, I'm a quality build, because I like using various weapons, but fuck if Yhorm's isn't the most fun even though it doesn't benefit from my dex.

Other than that I played a lot with Claymore, which was shit, and Drang Hammers, which were shit. They're fine for PVE but if you're playing solo, there's basically no reason to not just use a Dark Sword anyway.
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>>336623043
Profaned greatsword and swordspear. If I feel like dex then warden twinblades

Anyone try the greatsword of judgement in pvp?
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Im only to Farrons Keep and I've been using a Raw Broadsword +2 and its doing swell. When do I get into the good shit?
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Right now I'm using my Gargoyle Flame Spear or whatever it's called.

Wish it did more damage though. I do love catching people off guard with it's weapon art.
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Lucerne is my weapon-fu.
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Why does the dark sword get so much shit?

It's not like the drake sword which had shitty scaling. Even in pvp it's easy to beat someone using it.
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>>336623043
Dragonslayer axe also post characters and r8 and m8
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>>336626225

the only reason anyone calls any gear "scrub" is because they do to it

stay mad kiddo
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Is there any way to make the lothric holy sword viable? The weapon art is so cool and relatively easy to hit
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>>336626134
E in dex
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>>336626390
Weapons stops getting significantly more damage at like +6. So not that much further.
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>>336626421
I PVPed with Lucerne so fucking much in DaS, I might have to try it again in DaS3.
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>>336623791
>>336623345

They should have copypasted the one from Bloodborne with the constant stream of energy
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I use the Heavy claymore, ill stick to it till am done with my first playthrough
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>>336626461
merge it with lorian's
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>>336626424
Because you can win by just spamming R1. Yes, even against someone who knows how to parry, because shitty netcode favors spam over things that require timing.
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>>336623043
Black Knight Halberd\Glaive. I got into it just because I thought it looked so sexy back in DS1. I've been using it ever since.
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>>336626561
It's more spin2win than ever before.
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>>336626039
With 174 stamina I get 5 hits with Astora's compared to 4 with every other UGS, and it's definitely a bit quicker as well.
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>>336626168
>

Its currently one of the most broken weapons with that r1>l2>r2 combo, youll see tryhard faggots whipping it out all the time.
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>>336626431
aw shit, I played the rest of the game like that except using BK greataxe
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>>336625775
damage types in this game are retardedly translated, thrust would be better described as piercing
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>>336626437
No I don't die to it, but I see too many people wearing it and using your weapon. Maybe it's an unspoken rule or a secret army I don't know
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Heavy greataxe. Switched to the Dragonslayer GA once i got it but desu im not sure if i like it more. Certainly doesnt look as cool.
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>>336626584
Does it have decent scaling/damage then?
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>>336626584
>D/D/D/D weapons viable

Sure if youre lvl 200.
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>>336624286
This sword is really good for 40/40 int/faith build. Slap Chaos on it and at +10 I can get almost 700 ar with 16/18 str/dex

Lets you be a pyromancer but still have a solid UGS for pvp
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>>336626431
I use the exact same set except I have iron leggings on the bottom
Dragonslayer axe is also great. I've been switching between a lot of weapons but I've yet to try PvP with it.
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>>336626561
It's good
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Ive been finding good luck with the drang twinspears.
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>>336626861
I assume this also means the Pontiff sword that shoots magic is shit too
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>>336626225
90% of phantoms I see wear this set. Is it good? or do people just think it makes them look cool?
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>>336626904
What's it scaling best infusion for it? I'm making a 45/42 quality build and was going to use it with the claymore and leo ring.
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>>336626963
The latter, but it's not a bad set either
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>>336626431
drang top + cathedral helm is godtier
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>>336626431
>>336626875
I played just like that but with Elite Knight Helm and then Alva helm
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>>336626980
Refined. Makes you scale equally on str and dex and thus benefiting from both of your stats.
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>>336626551
I mean when do I get the good weapons? Havent found anything yet and I have all the items besides some scattered around the Keep atm
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Dark Knight Greataxe is stupidly good.
Ass ton of damage
Good reach
Great combos
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>>336627041
>>336626875
>>336626773
>>336627069
Good taste anons
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>>336625494
Whats the AR with 50/10 heavy infusion?
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>>336626963
It legitimately looks cool, but to me a set kinda of loses it's cool when everyone else is wearing it

On my first playthrough me and my friend would always fight over who would wear what set because we didn't want to look the same
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>>336626945
That one might be ok if you slap on a simple offhand item so you can keep the buff up 24/7, but there are way better weapons you can use that actually have scaling on them.
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>>336626963
Full set is .2 weight heavier than Alva's and a few points better in almost every single category.
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>>336623043
Ive been using the broadsword since the beginning of the game, its still the best weapon
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>>336627041
Alva Helm is most fashion with the drang set bro
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What does quality build even mean?
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>>336627201
Is there any weapon with a cool weapon art that is actually viable besides the dragonslayer swordspear and the dragonslayer axe?
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>>336626963
decent set but with a trenchcoat draped over the armor so it attracts scrubs

i rarely ever lose to anyone that wears that armor
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>>336626810
I don't like the DSGA, regular Greataxe is great.
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>>336627345
It's a DeS upgrade path where you made your weapon scale both equally on str and dex, and the name sticked ever since
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>>336625849
not a surprise its the same way with the Pickaxe which I imagine would be quite effective with the leo ring because I assume it gets hyperarmor like other great hammer class weapons, so the couterattacks should be easy to pull off.
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>>336627361
Profaned and Lorians have pretty cool arts and also kick ass.
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>>336627107
Thank god I made the right choice.
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>>336625574
>implying raw AR numbers can prove if a weapon is good or not

individual moves are a far better indicator of a weapons power

Rolling R1 on astora GS is essentially a faster version of Zwei R2 with the same power, small hitbox, range, and parry immunity while being Purely hyper armor frames

charge is especially a good thing in pvp
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If I want to use an UGS for PvP, which should I use?

Greatsword (too heavy for my build)
Black Knight Greatsword
Zweihander
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Why do people make such a fuss about the Estoc? I win consistently against it, and it doesn't even stunlock if you buffer a roll.
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>>336623043
I've cut down so many twink faggots with this thing

I've been killed just as much due to phantom damage and lag rolls ;_;
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Best weapon
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>>336627585
profaned greatsword
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>>336627586
Because Thrust is beyond stupid in this game with how they handle damage, and the stamina cost/weight/requirements are really low.
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>>336626748
My tryhard combo atm is the glaive, with 10 fth and the sacred chime in my offhand, lloyds sword ring, and a simple shield on my offhand/back

With the shield I always have at least 1 fp point to use the chime WA and get any chip health that I don't want to waste an estus for to proc the sword ring. Rapes pvp
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>>336627528
Why did you purposely make your guy handsome?

Is it to woo the Firekeeper waifu?
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>>336627585
Astora greatsword
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>>336626963
It looks cool minus the head piece.
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>>336626225
>implying
I wear the full dickwraith set and the dank hand as well, it's not my fault the sword is a meme weapon.
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>>336627784
it honestly did not take too much of editing

maybe my slider-fu is strong
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>>336626874
I want to use it on my pyro but my str is only 12
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>>336627664
Logarius would be proud, anon
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>>336623043
Gotthard Twinswords
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What is the BSS and balder set of DS3?
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>>336623043
>tfw they nerfed your weaponfu
It was too good for this world anyway.
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Is a Raw ASS good for pure magic builds as a backup weapon?
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>>336627895
I doubt anyone would talk shit if youre in cosplay, but when you have every other fag running around using it with a shield that actually blocks dmg it becomes a slight issue.
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>>336627528
It has almost the same moveset as the Zwei, rolling attacks are parry bait EVEN on a greatsword, you can parry a rolling 2h FUG's not to mention this thing.

Range is the same or worse than other UGS's.

Charge is fun but it's like the dragonslayer Swordspear buff. Once you see it you won't get hit by it a second time. If you do you are a faggot.

I get that you like the sword, it looks good and is decent but it is only decent, nothing more.
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>>336627528
Dang dude that's cute as fuck. I tried my best o make a nice looking Ashen one but I don't know.
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>>336627980
Lothric set and Lothric straight sword.
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>>336627991
apparently its on S tier

maybe you should git gud?
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>>336628172
Aw yeh it's on babeeeh
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>>336628186
>It doesn't require 58 strength anymore
Nah Pham now any str shitter and fumefag can use it.
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>>336628156
>you can parry a rolling 2h FUG's not to mention this thing.
nope
has parry immunity

AR is not everything
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Astoras Greatsword and Lorians Greatsword for the most part

Carthus curved sword some times as well, but that's mostly for pve

Forgot to change gloves in pic so that's why I'm over 70% weight
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>>336628294
You have no "parry immunity" on 2H rolling greatswords.
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>>336628426
its a sole exception actually

people have tried so many damn times only to eat damage
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>>336628186
>Favourite weapons are Claymore, Great Scythe and Painting Guardian's Sword
Fuck me I guess
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>>336627174
pretty shit, my friend did that on his build, while i did 40/20 refined, was doing loads more damage.
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>>336628186
>witch's locks
>C in viability

ok sure whatever you say
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>>336628426
Astora rolling attack cannot be parried, 1H or 2H doesn't even matter

WA is parryable as fuck and only retards get hit by it though
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>>336628002
That has served me well so far. At this moment doing some casual dueling and it works even there (somehow).
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>>336628294
>>336628475

Try the 2H rolling against the snake thing in Archdragon Peak and you'll see that even a mob can parry you.

Rolling 2H of AG is a poke or a slash though?

Poke's are 100% parry. Slash I'd have to test.
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>>336628549
If that's true than it might be worthwhile afterall.
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>>336628586

Im pretty sure it does not look like a poke
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>>336623707
It's cool
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>>336628586
>Rolling 2H of AG is a poke or a slash though?
Vertical Slash
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>>336628398
how is lorians compared to profaned gs? might pick up lorians if i take my low level pvp char a little higher level
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>>336628186
>the weapon you use isnt even on the list
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>tfw wrecking anuses with the Partizan
Versatile as fuck, does whatever a Halberd does but way faster
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>>336623043
Firelink great sword for my Soul of Cinder cosplays,even though it's shit.
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>>336628186
>You have to time your attacks with curved greatswords.
Uh huh
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>>336628848
The Branding Iron or that Immolation thing?
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>>336628814
Haven't given much thought to the profaned one, but the buff seems to last longer on Lorian's and it's triggered on the first step of the WA, so even if you have 1FP you can trigger it. Pair it with a simple infused parry item on your left hand and it's a great UGS.
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>>336628774
icy what you did there
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>>336628865
I love the Partizan dude. Standard/Thrust is phenomenal.
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>>336628398
40/40 or what?
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>>336628961
Sword of judgement. I would probably throw it in where the hallowslayer sword is since they get around the same damage if you build them both right and the same greatsword moveset. In fact the sword of judgement might be better since the weapon art will buff your weapon a good amount for a short period of time.
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>>336629142
32 on both with those rings, so 37/37. It's at SL85. I need to get some rings and shit and then start NG+ to keep leveling.
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>>336628186
>BKGA
>Artora Greatsword
>Yhorms and regular greatmachete
>Fume UGS
>Butchers knife
These are literally all just mindless r1 spam/hyper armor crutch weapons.
And not in the like "Oh I'm salty af bcus i lost to them" way, they're not too hard to counter, but they're more scrubby and less skill required than even dark sword
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>>336629345
t. dark swordfag
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>>336629345
>they're more scrubby and less skill required than even dark sword
Dark sword and Estoc should be removed from the game
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It seems like DS3 was made for quality builds and pretty much nothing else.
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>>336629458
only if you play at the gay 120 "meta"
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>>336627664
My nigger
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Lorians firesword does epic damages even without the firebuff. I get close to 800AR when I use the art. The roll R1 gets people slipping as well, although it doesn't have much range. Kinda like a rapier attack.

Who /lorian/ here?
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>>336629450
>>336629435
I use clay and halberd mostly.
But those weapons are literally easy mode, way easier than estoc/dark sword
You have hyper armor and 3 hit almost everyone with black knight great axe
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Great Axe in this game is better than it's ever been in past Souls games

At +10 with Heavy infusion and 40 STR it has exactly 599 AR, and 658 with the weapon art

2H R1s come out very fast, stunlock, have hyper armor, AND if you miss and the target is close enough, it will stagger them from the tremors

Weapon Art R2 comes out very fast, hits twice, can combo (4 hits on both R2s) and has hyper armor (doesn't stunlock until the second hit of both 2 hit combos though), oh, and the weapon art activation itself actually staggers enemies if you use it next to them

You can do a total of four 2H R1s with 40 END before running out of stamina, which makes it easy to bait people (throw out a two hit combo, and when it misses they'll rush in thinking you're out of stamina, since all the other great axe variants (BK, Dragon, etc) eat a full bar with only two attacks

Also, it looks sexy as hell, and doesn't clip through walls/floors like most other weapons do (halberds/spears, washing pole, ultra greatswords, etc)
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>>336623043
This sword and the fucking lightning spear are the biggest babby tier weapons.

Anyone who uses them in pvp does so because "I don't know how to fight with an actual weapon"

It's literally, "catch you in one swing or in the special attack and I win" the weapon.

Anyone who mains either of those two is literally shit. Glad it's getting nerfed on monday.
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>>336626225
I wear the helmet with the Draang Coat/Legs/Boots

Looks pretty fucking cool to me.
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>>336628848
I don't see Warpick on there either.
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>>336629458
I kinda like that. It means that now that I know how things are I can just make 40/40 dex/str character and use 95% of weapons as I wish.

I'm currently playing my second playthrough as faith/sorcery/pyromacer so with those two characters I basically have access to all playstyles as I wish, outside of stuff that is inherently based on limitations.
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My darling, I love you.
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>>336627664
>>336629610
Why was DS1 not as washed out as DS3 and DS2?
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>>336629802
What the hell is great wooden hammer?
I want to use it
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>>336626421
>>336626561
my niggas
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>>336629564
>Caster
>at level 80
Fucking how mate I tried on my monk build but it was not worth it at all./
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>>336623043
I'm using Anri's Straight Sword after doing my entire playthrough using a claymore and wolf knight greatsword. I want to like the greatswords but Anri's Straight Sword can out damage them all and swings faster using less stamina. The only disadvantage it has is reach which isn't enough.

Although I don't know if it counts as a quality weapon since it has luck and faith scaling too.

Rate my fashion please.
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>>336629892
Oh yeah I forgot to mention, black knight greataxe falls into this too.

>>336629697
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>>336629903
drops from the hollows in undead settlement with hammers
it's just a great hammer with spinning weapon art instead of warcry or perseverance
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>>336629969
remove faraam/10
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Morian Blade
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Refined darksword or wolfwhatever greatsword.
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I unironically really like the exile greatsword
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>>336630052
It looks so stupid that I kinda wanna use it
I did the same with four pronged plow in ds1, was surprisingly a good weapon, or ds1 players were all just terrible
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>>336629458
Luck builds get just as good scaling for the most part and give you access to the other 3/4's of the weapons that quality builds don't allow for.

Hollow gem gives like A scaling on your luck stat it's ridic
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Been using this with my pyro build and fire clutch ring. One of the most fun weapons in the game
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>>336629927
stop at 40 int
pick up a crystal straight sword
bait nerds into rolling attacks with your magic so you can parry them, your magic will still do decent damage otherwise

pure caster builds are gonna suck no matter what your level
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55 strength with knight ring leo ring and a +10 heavy warpick hits about 600s a swing.
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So at 20/20 STR/DEX would it be better to just use RAW infusion or is Refined still worth it?

I'm making at 60 FAITH build with the Dragonslayer Spear but I need a weapon I can buff on the side. I'm thinking either Astora Greatsword or Lucerne.
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>>336629903
It's a rare-ish drop from those hammer-wielding undead in the settlement, it has Vordt's moveset and the spiked mace's spin. You can actually get all the weapons from normal undead in the settlement except the offhand knife of the abyssal guys and the handsaw.

I love the thing because it doesn't weight much compared to other great hammers and you can get a few other weapons in there to cover its weaknesses like the Demon Fists or the Thrall Axe. That and how it's the only mallet in the game.
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>>336630281
>Executor
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>>336630302
I said monk as in miracles and faith.
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Why do they hide everything till later in the game?
Even in ds2 you could drop down instantly and get great heal after dragonrider, yet in this one you gotta wait till ithiryl.
And putting a fucking 15 faith requirement buff (blessed weapon) at the end of the game was really dumb, when you can get dark weapon (25 faith) immediately when you go the undead settlement
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>>336630415
>miracles and faith

Anon those are going to be garbage regardless of what you try.
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>>336630327
>I'm making at 60 FAITH build
Why not infuse with lightning or blessed instead?
Astora greatsword has S scaling on faith for both of those I believe
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>>336627174
Honestly quality is the best damage possible. but for 50/10 heavy might squeak by and do a little more than the standard sword for those stats.
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>>336630291
>sacred flame someone and kill them as they're running away with the WA
pyromancy is good sometimes
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>>336630554
Because then I can't use Darkmoon Blade, Dark Blade, Blessed Weapon, or Lightning Blade.
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>>336630393
Ain't the handsaw called a great machete?
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>>336630167
I love it, but wouldn't say it's a good weapon. Might not be worth the trouble depending how long it takes to drop.

It took me three hours of grinding the one hammer undead up the stairs of the dilapidated bridge bonfire. I really, really wanted it.
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>>336630070
Fixed

Now do you have any meaningful feedback?
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>>336630545
You just had to say it. God damn it from why must miracles be shit because of pvp babbies.
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>>336630660
No, not the saw from the big red guys. I mean the normal undead with the smaller saw.
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>>336626802
It's the meta.
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>>336630228
Anri's Straight sword gives ~5 AR per point of luck, the scaling on luck weapons is stupid.
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>>336630693
Put a shirt on
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>>336630754
>tfw first character was planned to be a miracle man

Then I saw that lightning spear cost 27 fp and did less dmg than my r1s.
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>>336628186
>drang hammers
>requiring that much skill

as a maraca wielder i completely disagree. it's so easy to stomp all over people with them. or maybe i'm a weird mongoloid
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>plan to relive my glory days as a great scythe quick flipping clothie
>sweet spot is in the game

From truly excels at killing dreams.
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>>336630693
Use THE CHAMPS chestpiece.
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>>336630805
Kek
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>>336630821
It's better than it being useless.
And they're going to nerf it, they always do.
Anything thats good/unique they nerf to the ground to make it as shitty as everything else, because god forbid we use anything not quality or try anything different.
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>>336630848
My monk build has a maxed sunless talismen 60 faith with morne and all the other rings and sunlight spear still only hits about 600
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Having fun with profaned greatsword outside pontiff. Big hammer wielders usually rek me though
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>>336630797
Oh, I wanted their meat mortar without pestle. Shit hurt when they threw it at you.
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>>336630917
It doesn't make that big of a difference, honestly.
Maybe 10%
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>>336623043
My fellow glorious Astora Greatsword nigga, that shit kicks ass
>that hyperarmor
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>>336630636
Lothric Knight Greatsword has 175 lightning at +10 on any physical infuse and can still be buffed.
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>>336630846
>No chest pieces labeled as shirts

This will have to do
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>>336630917
it's not nearly as bad as it was in DaS2, you can probably have fun with it
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>>336623043
That sword is possible the most versatile sword ever.
Heavy Gem: A in STR
Sharp Gem: E in STR, B in DEX
Refined Gem: C in STR, C in DEX
Crystal Gem: D in STR, C in DEX, S in INT
Chaos Gem: D in STR, C in DEX, B in INT, B in FAITH
Lightning: D in STR, D in DEX, S in FAITH

Darksouls 3 Weapons spread sheet below

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-sm_mSATMS0XFBG-dH3HhQcfM3dxh6hbLNR8Qe_1vaI/htmlview?usp=sharing&pref=2&pli=1&sle=true#
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I'm making a str/faith build. Is astora greatsword a good weapon ? I've seen phantoms going well with it.

What stats and infusion should I use ?
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BKGA to the end, even though I wanted to kill myself while fighting Nameless King.
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>>336631124
>Refined Gem: C in STR, C in DEX
More like B/B
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>>336629969
Faraam armor looks so sexy this time.
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>>336631154
>What stats and infusion should I use ?
Lightning or Blessed.
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>>336631170
I still think the helmet is edgelord as heck, the chest has always been pretty cool though.
where the fuck do i find it, though. is it hidden in some early area after doing some random shit like havels was?
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>>336630928
>No gloves to cover my skinny arms

I need to fix my body size, some armors look so fucking stupid on anything that isn't anorexic. But I'm waiting until I'm done farming NG because I'm down to two rebirths
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>>336631102
>>336631043
Went from 106 to 86 when hitting with the handle, this is of course at a low upgrade and the reduction is % based so it will only get worse as I upgrade it more.
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>>336629697
>getting nerfed
how so?
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>>336631341
You can buy it off the shrine handmaid after you kill the NPC wearing it in Grand Archives if memory serves.
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Witch's Locks
Pyro Hand
Caestus
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>>336623043

I use the regular whip. It's totally underrated. One-handed has some of the best horizontal reach of any weapon. Only thing I don't like are its running attacks. They're a bit too slow. Fortunately, like all its other attacks, the reach is fantastic.
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>variety of weapons to try in PvP
>PvE, use anything but a straight sword and the Bloodborne enemies (ie EVERY ENEMY IN THE GAME) just punish the shit out of you
Trying to fight the Dancer with an UGS was the worst thing I've done in a while
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>>336631469
Don't fucking go around changing your gloves and legpieces if I haven't told you to.
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>>336629697
>Astora Greatsword
>babby tier
That's an ultra greatsword, friend. Are you talking about the Astora STRAIGHT sword?

Ain't nothin' babby about taking people out with an UGS.
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>>336631597
>parry window isn't long enough to use sacred flame
it's not fair
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>>336627664
>>336629894
I don't know, but I change up the monitor settings on my computer so that when I'm playing it looks like this:
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Who STR here?
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>>336631489
There should have been some random 5th knight of Gwyn so we could get the Masters Ring from DeS, then sweetspot weapons could be cool as hell.
>Daggers get Hornet
>Big weapons get wolf
>Spears and rapiers get leo
>Bows get hawk
Disappointing that they left big a weapon class out
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>>336623043
black knight sword.
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>>336630291
So what are the best weapons to use on a Pyromancer through most of the game since you can't get the Witch's Locks until fucking endgame?
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>>336631885
just flame buff a raw weapon of your choice
i used broadsword and it served me just fine
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>>336631783
>Two hit combo on every r1 spam
>Kills almost anyone in 2 combos
>No downside to just spamming r1 and trading
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>>336631885
I ran with a raw astora ss until I could get chaos infusions and then the world is your oyster
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>>336631740
Sorry boss

It's looking worse and worse
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>>336632000
>>336631964
What were your STR/DEX stats? I'm trying to keep my build around 80 but I guess I can go up to 100 if I need to.
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>introduce weapon arts
>bring back Silver Knights
>give Silver Knights weapon arts

>You can't get their weapons
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>>336632117
>336632117
Just use a hand axe or mace then.
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>>336630281
My nigga
Bastard sword's moveset but with better reach, strike damage, FP restoration, more interesting weapon art attacks, and it looks fucking sick.

I always get people by unloading charged 2H R2's on them. Feels like pulling back a sling and letting it go in their face when they whiff at me.
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>>336632117
10 str 17 dex
i haven't invested in dex because witch's locks scaling is lackluster, i just dump into int/fai
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>>336631818
Greataxe is my baby
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>>336631979
You use a Dark Sword, don't you? UGSs are so punishable by quick weapons, it's not even funny. They're slow to attack, slow to recover, and they eat stamina like you probably drink Estus.

For the record, every weapon stuns for at least two R1 hits.
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Someone rec me a fun build

I've already done 40/40 quality, dex/pyro, and I'm in the middle of str but it's boring
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sharp heavy weapons fuck ass real good
dex scales much better than str for some reason
sharp great club is better than heavy great club for example
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>>336632117
I went 12 str/30 dex but I doubt you really need that much dex
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>anything but pic related
BEASTLY IDIOTS GET OUT
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What level are you guys pvping at?
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>>336630291
Can you infuse this? It looks rad as hell
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>>336632542
120 but I kinda wish I stayed at 99
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>>336632542
80
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>Heavy infused Greatsword only gets a B scaling with STR

Yeah, fuck you too, Miyazaki.
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>>336632542
i've been invading at around the 60 level because i need bone shekels
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>>336632542
100
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>>336632573
No, but it's B/B in fth/int and C in dex I think

perfect if you know how to use it on a pyro build
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SL 80 or SL100
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>>336630291
>nuke phantom with great chaos fire orb
>he starts getting aggressive
>roll R1 with witch's locks
>he tries to parry it

lol when will the shitters learn
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These bad boys on my current dex build.
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>>336626742
Oh, just tested it and yeah, there is a small difference. Man I love this sword.
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>>336632264
Why does everyone say that?
I use claymore, and halberd.
Recently experimented with Astora, and it makes me feel like a boring r1 spamming giant dad.
The two hit system in this game in general should just be removed, it rewards nothing but r1 spammers, because a fully charged r2 still is going to do less than 2 r1's.
I wish this game was more tactical and less hack and slash
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>>336632542
30. high level pvp is fucking stupid, at low levels youve got gank squads and are geared to deal with them or sometimes youll just run into good players and the fight is a fight, rather than people buffing their extoc with magic weapon and throwing pyromancies at you whilest using havels shield.
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>>336632512

Man, weapons will never be as fun as they were in Bloodborne. I know people at /v/ get fucking salty because it's a ps4 exclusive but goddamn it, it really did get weapons right.

>Alien form
>That fucking moonlight greatsword
>The fight to GET the moonlight greatsword
>The kind of weird quest to get the alien powers
>Minigun
>Shotguns
>A fucking wheel with cursed spirits and shit
>Beast form with cool moveset
>Alien can throw up and use cosmic powers with hyper armor

I mean, I knew the weapons for DaS3 would go back to being standard stuff, but I still miss fun weapons. Though stuff like the Farron Greatsword and other weapons do try to go for that crazy fun stuff. I understand that they couldn't go full out like they did for BB.
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>>336632650
>45 STR
>20 dex for dragonslayer greatbow
>+10 claymore
>sharp gets more damage gains than heavy
>refined gets more than sharp
I'm beginning to think this shit is broken and From doesn't want me to love my weaponfu.
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>>336633014
Lemme see that shit with fire keeper skirt on.
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>>336623043

>hear so much shit about Dark Sword
>never planned on every getting it or finding where it is
>get it outside Abyss Watchers
>use it
>mfw Dark Sword +6

I'm a shitter, I know. It's a damn fine sword, though. Better out there but damn do I like it.
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>>336632229
What was your final int/fai, my man? Is 25/25 good enough or should I be shooting higher?
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>>336633038
Organized pvp in general is retarded.
>First few days everyones trying stuff out
>A week later, 15 meta youtube videos are out
>Everything who isn't new is using some cookie cutter, easiest win build and googling "Best Build Dark Souls 3" on google
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>>336633110
Its a shame they didn't make the firelink greatsword a transforming weapon, that shit wouldve been cool as fuck.
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>>336632542
80. Grand Archives invasion fun all day son.
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>>336633219
i'm at 28/28 now at 60-something, you pretty much need to go all the way to deal the big damage
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>>336633125
>40/40 refiined clay, kinda bad
>switch to 40 dex/40 faith
>Sharp claymore does like 20 less damage than the refined one did
>Can use lightning weapon and sacred oath
Okay, from, we fucking get it.
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>>336624964
like just the plain greatsword?
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>>336633264
>the WA is not a 5 hit combo with great reach
>or at least a fire explosion

It could have been so great and it just fucking isn't.
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>>336633110

>I know people at /v/ get fucking salty because it's a ps4 exclusive

I'm just waiting on that rumored PS4k thing. As long as Sony charges 400 bucks for it I'll be on the Sony train as well and Bloodborne will be my first purchase. Just don't want to get burned on buying a PS4 now while things are in flux.
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>>336633342
My refined claymore has an AR of 468 497 if I use flynn ring. It's not bad at all
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>>336633408
>Wanting more Farron GS tier annoying weapon arts
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>>336633493
It's like 440 with Sharp at 40 dex.
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>>336626225
>using this instead of the glorious default knight set

Absolute trash
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>>336633628
468 45 str with knight ring and 42 dex with milkring refined.
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>>336628186
Is Demon's Fist really that good?
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>invade someone
>They use a Seed of The Giant Tree

Dont be like that, guys
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>>336632147
You can't? Fuck me, I thought they were rarer than those god damned ears.
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I love the Drakeblood Greatsword but THAT FUCKING SPLIT DAMAGE HOLY SHIT

Fuck you From and your retarded way of dealing with resistances
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>>336623043
Every thread until it comes back into the players' hands.
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Someone kill me.
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>>336633693

>not just just kiting all the biggest/most annoying enemies right to their doorstep

It's so much fun to turn the tables on an already interesting invasion. Have some creativity.
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>>336633691
>c rank viability

It might be worse.
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>>336633693
>invade someone
>fight one of the phantoms one on one
>they start to lose
>run to the host
>the host summons another phantom while they gangbang me
>a red invades
>he starts attacking me too
>manages to get away from the phantom and the host
>other red back stabs me
>he emotes at the host
>the host immediately kills him
>emotes

Did they even test the online?
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>>336633774
My relative of African descent.

The only thing I didn't like about the Gold Tracer was that it replaced the kick with that spin/backstep attack.
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>>336633691
No, but spinning is a good trick.
And the follow up to the spin is always satisfying.
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what's the best staff for pure sorcery?
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>>336633737
>not infusing it dark for some dank 4 way split dmg

Its totally viable trust me.
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>>336633038
Yep, me too. I've got a whopping TWELVE VIGOR and yet I'm far more successful than on higher level characters, where people will kill you in 4 longsword R1's... which, given the 2-hit stun, is basically "get touched twice and you die."
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>do some pvp 2 weeks ago
>random builds, theme builds, generally people trying shit out and having fun

>do some pvp this week
>everybody is a magic/dex twink using the same armor and same 6 weapons


Its hilarious how quickly pvp becomes stale in these games. It ain't fun fighting the same spreadsheet character over and over and over.
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>>336627664
Based
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>>336633539
How bad are you?

That WA is the most parryable thing ever.
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>>336633973
Crystal if you can remember to use its buff, otherwise court sorcs.
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>>336626225
How come in dark souls when people use weapons and gear that is just better than others (dark sword), they get shit for it but in a game like melee people who pick the best character (fox) no one bats an eye
Fuck you fags lmao
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>>336633965
Yeah, I usually offhand it and instead of parrying I git gud with dodging.

The toxic R2 attack on the Silver Tracer is actually bretty gud.
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i spent the whole game holding out for a good weapon to main and spend all my chunks and slabs on
same with using a good armor set
ended up sticking with the knight class' armor and sword for the whole game the only thing I did is imbue it with a fire gem

I guess NG+ I'll get fancy with it
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>tfw wanderer's set isn't in the game
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>>336633175
Sure.
>>
>get to deacons of the deep
>think it's going to be like two or three deacons who are big and strong
>it's literally like 100 fucking deacons
What the fuck
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>>336634584
Looks as silly as I hoped, thanks breh.
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>>336634442
why they do this?
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>>336634647
Alluring Skull: the videogame

Alternatively just summon someone. It's honestly just a bad fight not worth doing solo for the bragging points.
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>>336634647
>literally like 100
Your words ring hollow and meaningless
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>>336633014
This is a really good screenshot anon. It almost looks like a painting.
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>>336634780
They hate good sets and go for "pisspants supreme" instead.
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>>336634987
What are the odds they finish her weapons and add her set in the dlc?
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>>336634987
>Silly humans
But none of the Four Knights are human.
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ayyyyyy
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>>336635036
Who knows? They have a description, effects and are in the game. Decent, at least. The Lord's Blade set on the other hand will probably never see the light of day.
>>336635064
Who do you think dropped the cat?
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>>336623345
How can i make this less shit
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>>336635267
I wonder what happened to Alvina.
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>>336635267
>every other lords blade has their weapons and armor
>best set and weapons get left out

Sasuga From.
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Gotthart twinswords Leo ring roll stab spammers are now becoming a thing. Zero fun to fight. Thank Ghrist for parrying.
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>>336635393
>they think making the Hornet ring OP as shit will cover for it
"Humans were a mistake"

-Binge, Lord of Cider
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Is any melee build not just a quality build? Focusing on just str or dex doesn't seem to get you very much, especially past 40.
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>>336633243
I just did bunch of duels next to pontiff sylivan's balcony.
I'm only 86, so little low on for the 120 meta, but I think it's still telling that I saw bunch of different weapons and styles being used.
Sadly no magic, but all kinds of melee, spears, greatswords, great mace, one case of gimmick archery off-weapon.
In dozen or so matches there was one dark sword.
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idk guys ive been pvping with irithyll straight sword +3 am i underperforming here? because i really like the moveset
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>>336635458
>fail a parry
>Half your health gone from straight swords
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this is my first run and I'm really starting to feel the pain in the later bosses and in pvp

I wanted a dex/int hybrid but I went with the flamberge because I got it early on (started deprived so not too many choices). I use it with magic weapon so it isn't so bad but yeah I feel like I'm really falling behind in terms of dps.

Any opinions on what I should change? Maybe respec and change weapon? I'd like to stick to a dex/int formula but I'm not sure where to go with this.
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>>336635934
Probably, but youre underperforming anyway if you aren't using the r1 spam faggot weapon anyway, so who really cares?

I use the FGS and everyone says that shit sucks cuz you can 360 parry it, idgaf and keep using it anyway
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>>336624718
i generally agree with the rest, but how are you going to include dragonslayer great axe on that list and not bestoc?
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>>336636109
>20 vig

Thats going to start being an issue but if you want more deeps drop end and pump up int then grab a magic clutch ring.
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Is there any way to not make it shit? Also what weapon would you recommend on an interview and maybe strength build?
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>>336624718
What's wrong with Dragon Slayer Great axe? It's a big slamming weapon that actually does damage. If Old Demon King Hammer wasn't like 100 damage less than it, I'd use it instead.
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>>336636635
Butcher knife and Dragonslayer greataxe.
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On all levels except physical, I am a Lothric Knight. I use the Lothric Knight greatshield and spear, Lothric Knight sword and shield, or Lothric Knight greatsword interchangeably. The only issue I have is that the lothric Knight items are quite heavy.
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Does Hollowslayer Greatsword get outclassed at +5 compared to other weapons? I love this things moveset but I'm in Irithyll and it's only a +2 and it can't damage anything for shit anymore.
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>>336629339
>dragon tooth

why though?
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>>336636635
>Is there any way to not make it shit?

here, i fixed the moonlight greatsword for you :^)

MLGS in das3 is not even remotely worth using until they fix/patch its projectiles, that shit is downright depressing to fight against with how it fizzles out halfway to a target or just bonks into the dirt for literally no reason

and when it does hit, it's like 250 damage. literal garbage


fucking LOOK at the scaling on this thing. this is with 18/18 str/dex and 55 int, no magic clutch
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>>336637147
>lothric knight collar is too low to use with ANY other helmet in the game
REEEE FUCK YOU FROMSOFT
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>>336623043
Carthus Curved Greatsword
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>>336628186
>Drakeblood greatsword
>not viable at all
Damn..I like it too
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>>336637183

you practically convinced me to use that for my int build

hoooly shit
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>>336637273
>weapon at risk

HOW

I never had a single weapon come close to breaking in the entire game...i thought durability was disabled
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>>336637685
The only time I had it happen to me was in undead settlement. I had been sunbroing it up for a couple of hours with my Uchi without resting in a bonfire for a while.
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>>336637685
Can happen if you are actively searching for Illusionary Walls
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how well do these infusion gems work? If I do a str build and find a neat new weapon that I want to use but it's mainly dex scaling, can I throw on a heavy gem and still have it perform well?
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>>336637503

farm for a flame witch tinder and use a leo ring to get the most out of your damage with both weapons, the tinder makes an insane pvp/pve catalyst/weapon for any mage build
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>>336637789
This, if you do PvP or co-op, it doesn't reset the durability of your items. So if you forget to rest at a bonfire your shit might break, but other than that it's absolutely nothing to worry about.
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>>336637993
Yes.
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>>336637183

how does that compare to say a quality AGS with magic weapon? (Or whatever the best buff you feel would complement it)

Biggest problem for me with AGS is that you can't swing it a many times like you would a straight sword or even a greatsword.
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>>336629345
>Ass Greatsword
>Skill-less
U wot m8? I spend more time thrusting than r1 spamming.
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Why can't you get half the fucking boss armor in the game?

>can't get Crystal Sage's robes, only the hat
>can't get Pontiff's armor
>can't get Gwyndolin's corrupted armor or the OG Moonlight Set
>can't get Yhorm's armor
>can't get Dragonslayer Armor even though the boss is literally a suit of armor
>can't get Wolnir's bracelets or his cape thing

Also the absence of a lot of really good sets/weapons from DaS and DaS2 is fucking annoying, they seem to have just picked shit at random. I bet they're going to drop the rest of it in DLC, the fuckers.
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>>336638616
More than likely dlc in the next areas.
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What's the highest damage you've done in one hit?
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>>336627586
>>336623707
>>336629450

Why do people bitch about weapons that are just really good in this game, but in like fighting games when someone picks the best character no one gives a shit and its even encouraged


lol fucking /v/ man
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>>336637685
I had it happen once, was using a shotel in back to back to back to back summons for Decons. The weapon icon gets a little crack on it like glass, was interested in seeing the full break, but fuck that shit.
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>>336639147
maybe because fighting games are dedicated pvp games and dark souls isn't

woah, the discrepancy is crazy, I know
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>>336639147
Because it's not best or just really good. We're talking about damage on par with UGS with very low stamina usage, with barely if any skill required.
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>>336631802
I hate how magic does a shitload of damage but mostly takes so long to cast that you'll literally never hit anyone with it. I wish more magic was like the GCFO, decently fast, actually skill based to hit and rewarding.
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>>336636635
yep, just play a different series
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>>336637280
my nigga
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>>336633539
>parries are annoying

>>336634067
>a parry is parry-able

I know what you mean, but i still felt like being a dick
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>>336623043

I actually fell in love with the Dark Sword and Black Knight Great Axe. Turns out they are both the meta. Now I'm a faggot. FUCK.
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>>336638023
How does the Leo ring help it?
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Doing a pure caster pyromancer was amazing
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>>336640484
Use whatever you want, who cares.
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>>336636109
all right
1) Vitality increases your defenses, which means that it is better than armor in terms of protection, and since poise doesn't work, you don't have to worry much about heavier sets.

2) again, poise doesn't work, so you can only rely on hyper armor. The Flamberge only has it while two-handing it and during weapon arts.

3) DO NOT go with split damage (physical and magic), always go with heavy, sharp, raw or refined gems
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>>336627663
>tfw swords like this are my fav but they take up too much stamina for me to want to use them and poise is shit so that doesn't help either

why even live. I've been using the longsword forever. I can't find shit.
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Reminder that Greataxes that aren't the actual Greataxe are literally the most OP weapon group in the grame

>Hyper armor
>Unparryable
>Stun lock in for two hits like every other weapon only they kill you in two hits
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>>336625309
I tried to use cestus. I stopped at undead settlement... the zone you find them in. The damage is so pitiful, the poise damage on enemies is useless as shit. No range. At least in DS2 they would break poise and deal damage, but now they're just completely useless.
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>>336638616

>can't get Dragonslayer Armor even though the boss is literally a suit of armor

That one makes the most sense considering it's just a slightly more dragonlike version of Ornsteins armor, which is in the game
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>>336623043
Astora Straight Sword, basic pyromancy, and Pharis' bow
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>>336623043
>>336626980
>>336627515

why would you go over 40 for either stat? i'm geniunely curious
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>>336640415
>I know what you mean, but i still felt like being a dick
I'm retarded, you get to be a dick
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>>336641562
Being a kung fu master is not for everyone Anon, its okay if you dont make the cut.
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Is Vordt's Great Hammer a good weapon?

I'm currently using the Greatsword but I have shit endurance and I'm probably just gonna pump all my points into it for the next twenty levels until its decent.
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>>336641682
Weapon requirements
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>>336626963

it has good stats for its light weight

but let's be honest armor means almost shit in this game, fashion souls all the way
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>>336624150
really? i started making a hollow luck build and kinda got bored but i got this weapon but dont have th stats for it yet. seems worth it though
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>>336640972

Pretty much what I do. I found them, upgraded them, and decided I liked the moveset and damage output. Then I start PVP and everyone and their incestuous cousin is using it.
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In order of my usage of them
>longsword
>gotthard twinswords
>dark sword
>dragonslayer greataxe

Just traded for the wing knight twinaxes, theyre not really a strong weapon but they seem fun to use, gunna try them out in pvp later. Im a str/faith lightning infusion build as well
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>>336624150
Build please ?
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>>336640484
The most fun pvp match I had was me using the dark sword vs another guy using a dark sword. nobody should be salty about straight swords either because theyre parry bait
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>go pyromancer, sorcerer, or cleric
>ends up just being a boring straight sword build until end game where all the good shit is
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So are they just waiting to put the PvP arenas into the DLC again?
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>>336642428
>nobody should be salty about straight swords doing almost twice the damage they should logically do based on their stamina cost and swing speed

I can win fights with SS users and parrying them is easy because most of them are bad but the numbers on them are just ridiculous right now. There's a reason why so many people are using them and it's not because they're fair. Being able to beat something doesn't make it not overpowered.
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>>336642518
I made a pyromancer and beat Dancer at SL30 to go into the Archives and get Power Within and the Witch's Locks only to learn that you literally can't get that shit until you beat every single boss that you have to beat before getting to the Dancer normally.

Fucking why?
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>>336643037
I thought you could only access the archives after slaying 3 lords of cinder? Doesn't the corpse holding the key not spawn until then
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>>336643313
He literally said that in his post, m8.
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Meet Edj Dahk

Ruler of all things badass as hell

this is just my first run PvE character because I haven't actually taken the time to make a PvP build yet. I basically just destructo disk every boss to death
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Which one should i increase next? Running my first quality/faith build
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At Champ Gundyr
Still using +7 brigands axe
Any better alternatives? This guy is fucking me up consistently
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>>336623043
This is sex right here. Also use Twinswords as secondary.
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>mfw just got done with a 20/3 pvp session at pontiff

This SL for pvp seems pretty good. There's a lot of variety in people and builds while allowing for good stuff all around.
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>>336643782
Yeah don't use an axe. They're bad. Really bad.

Or just, you know, parry him. He's bigger parry bait than Gwyn was.
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>>336625306
Does the Lucerne have a sweet spot in DS3 like in 2? My first character 80-ish hours ago used it, and I seem to remember doing more damage to the slugs in Farron Keep if I stayed away and just-the-tip'd them, but if anyone has concrete info I'd love it. A quick Google only showed the same questions from before the game's launch.

Lucerne is one of my favorite weapons in the game so far, and I'd love to go back and use it again for PvP now that I've got gud(er) since launch.
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>>336643995
I did PvP at Pontiff at 86 while ago and saw same thing. Lots of different stuff.

Though, I got wins, so there were some really shitty people playing.
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1. Are Quality builds just better than Dex in this game?

2. Is the Grass Crest a trap in this game?
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>>336623043
i was planning to use this sword
what's the damage at refined STR/DEX 40/40?
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>>336644160
>there were some really shitty people playing.
Yeah there's some people who have no idea what they're doing. There's was a guy using Dark Sword who I think didn't know he could attack, or an axe user who didn't know he could roll more than once. But there's also a lot of good people, included a hybrid mage spear sword character thing that had the fight end in a mutual kill, a great fight though.
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Are miracles worth investing in, or should I just min/max for quality?
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>>336623043
Claymore, always and forever

Where the fuck is it in DS3? I feel like I'm over halfway in and haven't found it yet.
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>>336644782
Min/Max quality, miracles are shit. Another option is a luck build, which are pretty fun with bleed weapons or Anri's straight sword
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>>336643683
vigor and endurance
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>>336644852
High wall of Lothric, on the bridge with the dragon.
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>>336644852
>Where the fuck is it in DS3?
High wall of Lothric, by the dragon spewing fire. Just arrow his shit until he leaves
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>>336644060
Fuck. I wanted to be a badass Nordic warrior.
Better one-hand STR weapons that dont take forever to windup?
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>>336644782
are you looking at the self-buffs?
if youre min-maxing with faith might as well work on weapons that also scale with faith so your stat investment has extra value in it
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>used to be a darkmoon falchion fag in DasI
>will never know that feel of bringing a lightsaber to a swordfight in DaS PvP again

unless those builds are actually still good
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>>336644975
>It's a boss slides halfway across the damn room attack
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so what the fuck are critical hits? are they like ripostes/backstabs or do weapon arts count as a critical hit?
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>>336645327
>ripostes/backstabs
yes
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So I want to play as melee/pyromancer. What would be the most fun build for this?
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>>336645373
thanks anon
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>>336645327
ripostes do more damage, from what i experienced, compared to backstabs

theres also counter damage but im not sure if there theyre classified as the same
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>>336645139
You were the worst fag. I rushed you mid buff every time. I'm not gonna watch you lube up my anal bane. Fuck you. I'm still mad you 2 handing falchion asshole.
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I use Dragonslayer Swordspear. Does that make me a bad person?
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>>336645519
>theres also counter damage but im not sure if there theyre classified as the same
They're different, criticals are riposte/backstabs. Counter attacks are basically a small window after someone is done with their attack where if they get hit you do additional damage. I believe it's a flat x1.4 increase for counters.
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>>336645613
>theme of me wrecking you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcZ9kQ1h-ZY

I min-maxed the shit out of that build. Full Elite with that dumb little gold viking helmet
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>>336645447
herald and assassin has nice base stats for melee/caster
but you gotta work til the undead settlement to get your firehand

pyromancer is also an obvious choice but the base dex is kinda iffy

and it also depends on what pyro spells
some pyro spells need only int or need only faith but most of the time they need both stats
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>>336645613
>Dark Magic spammer spotted
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>>336645519
>theres also counter damage but im not sure if there theyre classified as the same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rWfIHnrOQ&feature=youtu.be

Counter hits shown as clear as possible
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Best early game weapon.

Prove me wrong.
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>>336645830
Well so far I went with Knight and I took up the Hollow Great Sword which I have been having a lot of fun with but feel like it is slugging along now. I am gonna have to redo my stats I am almost certain of.
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>>336626225


I wear this and use the dark sword and i dont give a FUCK
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>>336646185
Looks like a Longsword, but its not a Longsword, so Im going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you posted the wrong image by accident and meant to post a Longsword.
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>its a host ruining three fights going on at once at crucifixion woods by going into the fog gate episode
thanks host, you fucking pussy bitch. There was a watchdog, two invaders, a blue, phantoms. That was looking to be such a good skirmish.
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>>336646490
Flamberge. Think bleeding claymore with better damage and scaling.
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>>336630318
>Warpick
Mah nigga
Niggas can't even parry it because no one else uses it in PvP.
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>>336646554
I know anon, I was pulling your pisser. Longsword is definately the best early game weapon by a longshot, requires almost no stat investment to use and has R1 spam.
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>>336640754
Yeah man, I think my pyromancy play through was my favourite. Plus, boulder vomit in PvP is fuckin' fun
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>>336646761
R1 spam games are cancer

No style, no grace. Makes me make a funny face.
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>>336641804
Its lighter and does less damage but it has the dragon tooth moveset. The frostbite is useless but I guess it could scare someone

Basically dragon tooth lite
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>>336630318
How do you get damage from leo ring? Trading blows with other people?
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>>336628186
Where's my weaponfu Large club?
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>>336647103
Same as you would in DaS1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPs9mfRlzDM
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>>336647248
>actual factual, literal witeral proof of teleporting dogs
My roommate has been doubting me when I told him this keeps happening to me. Thank you so much for posting that WEBM, Anon.
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>>336647248
>teleports behind you
fuck these dogs.
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>>336645613
>>
I've been told Dark Sword is a "meme choice" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean) but it's fantastically balanced for quality melee, especially if you're slightly stronger than dexy and give it a heavy infusion.
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>>336648670
Dark Sword is really strong, which makes it really popular, which mean people dislike it.
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>>336648956
Well then fuck people, people can't fault me for using a weapon that's objectively good.
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>>336648670
Its strong, REALLY strong, which is why its a "meme weapon" Youre tripping over how many people are using it. The reason its notable is that there are so many weapons in the game yet everyone comes back to this one, theres nothing inherently wrong or bad about this, the game fucked up, but it does feels cheap to use for how effective it is and how restrictive and lames the playstyle is that accompanies using it. Its not a terribly exciting weapon to play with, it just gets it done.
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>>336637685
retard got killed a lot of times, he forgot to rest at the bonfire to repair weapons.
they do not repair upon death
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/r/ing for one of those dark souls 1 build images where you roll to determine your build
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Executioner's Greatsword, but pvp is nearly impossible for me with a greatsword.
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Is it worth using the anime sword? I like using it, but the damage is pretty shit.
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>SL30 sorcerer
>Already got 40 INT
>Using Rapier because it requires the exact base stats
What's another good weapon for a sorcerer? Should I just keep them Raw or are Crystal and Simple viable?
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>>336649114
No, you see, you should be using bare fists in full havel's + mimic head with calamity ring. Otherwise you won't git gud.
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>>336623043
I have been using the Astora GS lately, it's fucking unbeatable.

Black Knight Glaive is still my weaponfu, though.
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>>336623043

Rapier. It's so fucking wonderful. I really wanted to get into the drang spears but they are awful. I can't do shit against those silver knights.
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BKGA for life brethren
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>>336649948
yup
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Bandits knife baby
Don't care if it sucks
It's fucking fun
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>>336649350
Astora GS is actually an ultra great sword
Those are good for pvp

The problem is the normal great sword, it needs a buff,not much hyper armor , barely does more damage than straightswords per hit
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Astora Greatsword, Zweihander, Black Knight Greatsword and Black Knight Sword. Those four are my most commonly used weapons and I absolutely love them.

And by the time I level up enough strength to wield it and vitality to carry it around without getting fat-rolls, Yhorm's Great Machette.
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>>336649114
Dark Sword is the Drake Sword of Dark Souls 3. It's a really strong weapon you can get relatively early in the game so newbies flock to it.
It stands out a lot in invasions too, where you'll see someone with a Dark Sword swinging wildly at the air even after the other person's rolled away
I'm not saying don't use it, but if you do you're gonna get lumped into the same group as the newbies regardless of how good or bad you at the game.
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>>336628186
>Pickaxe isnt complete shit according to this list

yes

pickaxe STONG
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>>336631597
>Caestus
Is this the new Monscim? Never tried it before.
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>>336647520

They aren't the only ones who teleport. Enemies near walls sometimes teleport a meter in the air or higher.

One even teleported on top of a roof once
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>>336632542
Working towards 100. Was leaning towards 120 but figured there's probably more invasion potential at 100

>>336632586
>99
Why?
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butcher knife and knight slayer ring
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Anyone else getting unable to be summoned errors all over again ?
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>>336637685
Me and a buddy were doing PvP in the forest for a couple hours. 2v2's and 2v3's with Dried fingers popped. and I managed to get my weapon down to around 25-30% durability. First and last time i'll ever use repair powder.
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>>336650391
It's the best meta right now
Least estoc shitters
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>>336650191
Never thought of using a UGS in pvp. I'll have to try it, but I'm expecting to get raped even harder by longswords.
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Anyone here like the twin princes sword or have an opinion on it?
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>>336650556
But why 99 instead of 100?
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>>336639147
>but in like fighting games when someone picks the best character no one gives a shit and its even encouraged
Jigglypuff
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>>336650705
So you are out of the 120 invasions pool
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>>336650705
It's a more aesthetic number.
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>>336650705
People mistakenly believe it keeps them out of the 120 meta but don't realize that invasions are -10/+30 for most red eye orb invasions. Some are even higher. It does keep you out of 120 if you use a Red soap though.
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>>336627242
broadsword has been my weapon of choice for both ds2 and ds3
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>>336623043
>notice I'm SL 120
>isn't that PvP level?
>go to Pontiff
>not a single sign on the ground
>cant get summoned

?????????????????
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>>336650965
Sounds like you got softbanned.

rip.
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>>336650965
Are you playing in offline mode?
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>>336650773
>>336650843
Oh well fuck. Yeah that makes a shit ton of sense. So to avoid ever seeing 120 shitters, you'd have to stop at 89 then?

>>336650784
I can also live with this.
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>>336650965
Something wrong with your connection or you've been soft banned. I have a billion signs out there right now on my 120 character.
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>>336651038
No
>>336651001
FUCK

What do?
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>>336650384
>Enemies near walls sometimes teleport a meter in the air or higher.
I've definitely had this happen, too. And there are times when I flatten an enemy like the Fat Evangelists and they knock me over as though they'd fallen on me.
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>>336650773
So say if I'm level 100 already, there's literally no reason not to go to 120?
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>>336650230
>Dark Sword is the Drake Sword of Dark Souls 3. It's a really strong weapon you can get relatively early in the game so newbies flock to it.
Except Drake Sword lost it's edge after some time with the game. Dark Sword is always relevant.

In Dark Souls 1 first advice for shitter that was more than third in the game was "Switch out the Drake Sword to something better." in DS 3 there is nothing truly better and no real reason to switch off it.
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>>336650632
I enjoy it, but It doesn't have enough physical damage output for me to love it.
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>>336651059
Yes, but as you stick to the lower meta, eventually you'll want out of it. At least I did. Every fight was BK Glaive, Murokumo/Exile Blade, Spike Mace and just FIRST HIT WINS. Everyone does the instant-win combos and at the lower level metas they literally will one shot you with the R1 L2 R2 combo. It gets boring really fast when that is all it takes to end an invasion/fight.
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>>336649114
Bitch any straight sword is good, just use the one you like.
You're going to get called a shitter no matter what you choose to use anyways.
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>struggling to find a weapon for pyromancer
>discover the gargoyle flame spear

oh baby
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>>336651081
Assuming it was an accident, they said they'll fix it soon. If you used any 3rd party tools then you're fucked forever.
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>>336651260
Yeah I know the Drake Sword loses it's usefulness around the time you hit Sen's Fortress, I'm just saying both weapons are newbie magnets.
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>>336650843
Nobody uses orbs
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>endless chugging from opponents
>trying to hit anyone who isn't retarded with a Lloyd's
I can't make, can't make it man shit's stuck
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>>336651364
No 3rd party tools, so I guess I just wait. They say how long it'll take?
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I just did a dex/faith run and liked it a lot. Did some fun pvp with my DSS.

Not sure what to do next. I want a really fun weapon. Lucerne is looking sexy, might go with a greataxe thkugh
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Raw astora straight sword
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>>336651220
Unless you want to play with 4chan because 99 is the meta on /dsg/
At 120 we won't be able to summon you for fight clubs and all,we still can at 100

But downside is you will be invaded by the 120 cancer
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Get your anime cosplay shit outta here

This thread is for real kniggas only
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>>336651528

>do well against some guy, deplete most of his estus
>get cocky and get killed
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>>336624286
You get almost 680 ar with this thing at 40 int/faith with a fire/dark clutch ring. You can get over 800 ar with power within and sacred oath. Power within isn't that good, though. The downside is that it requires a lot of stat investment and you will sacrifice some vig and end for att like all magic builds.

The main thing that makes this thing a beast is that it is light, has a fantastic and unparriable 2h moveset, scales well with everything, and looks sexy.

The rolling r1 actually does more damage than the regular attack and is pretty damn fast. The charge is also terrifying against people the try to roll or run in front of you, and provides a fast reaction against players that leave themselves open after attack. Press r2 during it and you will extend it a bit further. Don't abuse it, though. It can be punished if you try to use it for no reason.
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>>336651673
>Not playing BloodBorne style character in DaS3.
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>>336651059
NobNobody use orbs because 90% of the time you invade a gank squad

You are better off at 99
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>>336651673
>try to play a holy paladin build
>can't even think about wear armor and have good stats without going to at least 120

I hate how fucked over hybrid builds are in this game, god dammit. At lvl 99 with 50 Faith my damage is fucking garbage.
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>>336651535
Wait for the next patch. I don't remember where I read that they would fix it...so don't take my word on it. Hope it works out for you.
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>>336651673
>someone is wearing the exact outfit you're wearing
Might replace the helmet with Cathedral Knights helmet, if it will fucking drop.
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>>336651278
So do you recommend 99, or 120?
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>>336651528
Use a weapon that can knock them up or down. When they're on the ground and you cant hit them anyway, toss a charm. Should work.
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Dragonslayer Spear

Ornstein's one

Not overpowering, though it still has that R1 ranged rapid poke of spears, so it's competitive against people.
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>>336651971
That one-shot meta he was talking about is SL80
Things are not like that at 99,it's much better

99 is the way to go
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>>336650784
That's not how you use that word.
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>>336651834
>>336652128
Roger that. Thanks anons
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>>336651923
Too late knave
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>>336651362
How good?

I was going for some kind of Chaos build and I was trying to use the Corvian Scythe but then I equipped the Dancer's Swords and they all of a sudden had like 600
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>>336651729
>he points down
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>>336652206
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>>336652259
>Gank squad does the emote
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>>336651673
>anime
Suck it.
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>>336652206
Besides if you are not satisfied you just have to level up to get to the 120 meta

You can't level down
So there is no reason not to give 99 a shot
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>>336652621

I haven't used the Rosaria rerolling yet, do you have to allocate all stats or could you level down by using her?
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>>336652246
>how good
>Fire damage scales with INT/FTH independent of physical damage
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>>336652621
There really isn't, but I feel bad whenever I two shot someone with the BKGA. I can tell they were someone from the level 80 meta. Maybe I should just stop using my weaponfu, it's too fucking strong making fights boring.
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>>336652904
You have to allocate all the Stats , except the base stats you started with depending on your class,they will still remain base,you can't further edit them
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>>336626431
Black knight gauntlets were made to go with Drang.
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>>336652985
Been farming for days and haven't found BKGA,how anon
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Is the Pontiff Knight Great Scythe any good?
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>>336653205
Mimic helm, Crystal Sage Rapier, Gold serpent ring, coins and fighting the 2 Black Knights at Dark Fire Link. Took only about 30 minutes. I'm sorry drops hate you, Anon.
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>>336653378
All scythes are garbo in this game.
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>>336649497
Do you use it in str or fai ?
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>>336653940
b-but S Dex scaling
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