So what's the verdict on him?
Worth fight money, unlike Alex.
very very good and not as boring as he was in 4
boring. Ibuki when? the roster is still fucking shit
>>336524160
>Alex is bad meme
I'm tired of hearing that.
Anyway, Guile is the most fun character I had with the game so far. He is the hardest to play execution wise, and his combos potential is crazy. He can do so much cool shit with his v-trigger and his sonic booms in general.
>>336524028
Any lobbies going on? I have some time to get back into the game because finals are almost over
Fought with the character all day today.
Like mentioned he's very fun to use but your execution need to be very good, close range combo's that do good damage are rather hard to pull off.
Getting in seems harder than with most characters.
>>336524028
He's ok
>>336524417
I'm down. PC?
>>336524732
>needing to get in and do combos to win with Guile
>mfw every Guile I play against plays him like Ryu, throws a few sonic booms and then attempts multiple jump-ins and dash-in sweep/grabs
You actually need to learn how to play a good neutral game to be a good Guile. I've learned his corner loop and his v-trigger confirms and I rarely even have to do them because I just boom, anti-air, and poke.
I put a few hours in with him earlier, strong combos but hard to pull off and I really think sonic booms need a speed buff.
>>336524028
He looks cool.
Hard execution on his crazy corner combos, other than that he's really easy to play as and win with.
>>336525749
Ps4. But it shouldn't matter, I've been away for weeks, so anyone could probably trash me. You wanna make a lobby or should I?
>>336524028
Duke Nukem Forever sucked ass. Delete this.
>>336524028
he is okay, but where is urien and my nigga rog
more broken than urien
>>336524241
This is all I'm waiting for, if we get Balrog at the end of the month I'm going to cry.
>>336526990
we get Blarog at the end of the month. It's pretty confirmed that its going to be Balrog - story mode - Ibuki - Juri - Urien
>>336525749
Ok, made a lobby. Drop your CFN, anyone else can join in too. Just be aware I'm super bronze.l, so I'm sorry if I don't put up much of a fight
>>336526990
Ayy lmao
The story mode is coming out after the next DLC character, so you bet your ass its gonna be balrog. Eat shit waifushitter
>>336527168
Namefield
>>336526609
>never once hitting block
>never once parrying
Hes not broken, the opponent just went full retard holding the controller
>>336527285
Says your CFN doesn't exist, despite putting it in exactly how you wrote it
>>336527458
that was one combo for most of the video, the throw was the only thing he could have prevented.
>>336524028
He's a really good character that requires serious execution to play. As long as they're not brain dead like R. Mika or Necalli for example that's all I ask.
>>336527458
That all comboed though, not possible to block. Except for the grab reset into super at the end.
>>336527547
Probably CFN being shit again. What's your CFN? I'll try to join you.
>>336527650
Cynclaire
Password is 1235
>perspective of a Birdie player
Gay as fuck, literally anybody can play him
>>336527743
anybody can play Birdie or Guile? I agree with both. Especially birdie though.
>>336527737
Found ya. I'll invite you instead I guess.
>>336524241
>>336526990
Buccee-bros, assemble. What are your hopes for the character?
>>336528196
I hope she's not a dumbass vortex character like she was in 4.
>>336528359
Guile didn't have Marvel tier combos in 4, anything's possible.
>>336528196
I've been out of the fighting game scene for a while now. Only started getting interest it these past few years. So i know close to shit about Ibuki. Whats so good about her and Juri that has people raging to have them in SFV. Not trying to shitpost, just genuinely curious
>>336528412
Yeah, I've been playing Guile in both and I would take a faster recovering sonic boom and invuln flash kicks over the mahvel combos. Then again SFV is the closest to mahvel street fighter has ever been so whatever. I mean why even complain about Guile's extremely situational corner loop when you have characters like Mika in the game?
>>336528530
There are two reasons, one these are both very mobile rushdown characters that tend towards the technical and have big combos and are generally flashy, so people are looking forward to having characters like these in SFV
In the case of the typical 4chan posters though its 100% waifufagging.
>>336524028
>haven't touched the game in several weeks due to studying and essays for classes
>finals finally over
>fucking put in the dumpster every game
Its so demoralizing to constantly get shit on, I don't get mad but it feels like shit to play necalli and get cheesed by fireballs all the time
Only thing I literally can't into is getting past fireballs with necalli
>>336527737
Sorry to duck out early but I've got work tomorrow. I'm pretty bad at the neutral game so I'll have to work on that. Good games.
>>336524257
There are people on this board RIGHT NOW who think Birdie is low tier.
What's the matter, anons? Hate good buttons?
>>336528196
I hope she's gonna be more focused on rush down and crazy mix up, with a little bit on vortex on her hard knock down (this time only reserved to, lets say, neck-breaker ex and Raida ex)
I want her to be as complex as she was in IV, with Super Jump and Super Jump Cancel and combos that use it. I also hope that she maintains all her special moves and normals.
I have no ideas what her V Skill could be, right now I'm imagining something simple as the small-jump overhead from SF3 (not her special, her MP+MK from SF3), or it could be her focus attack from SF4 (no one has a focus attack in SF5 yet, and it could be just like Ryu and v-triggered Alex are the only ones with the parry from SF3).
Or it could be something else entirely, like a smoke bomb that allow her to dodge an attack or something like that.
>>336528946
All of my amigos hate birdie because
>LITERALLY UNAVOIDABLE RANGED GRABS THAT COME OUT INSTANTLY
but I think he's fucking rad in design and gameplay and birdie players are cool people.
>>336529057
only thing I hate about birdie is how weird his hurtboxs seems to be. like the move clearly goes through his model but he is somewhat unaffected.
>>336529051
>I want her to be as complex as she was in IV
Prepare to be disappointed.
>>336528530
She's a character with an answer to everything:
>DP
>Sliding strike-grapple
>Air-coverage with kunai that stops all air-momentum for her if EX version is used
>Can perform resets off target combos thanks to a command dash
>Has a standing strike-grapple that can be combo'd into
>One of her supers in 3S, and an Ultra in SFIV, serve as command grabs that do a ton of damage if grabbed and still serve as a projectile wall if not in range
>This one is the most likely reason people hate her: in SFIV, if her air kunai was thrown at a specific time while opponents were recovering from a hard knockdown, there was a chance thanks to the kunai's hitbox that it would register the hit since the opponent wasn't "blocking" the right way. Made fighting Ibuki a 50/50 guessing game every time you got knocked down.
>>336527458
i think you might be the only one going full retard here
>>336529140
he's suckin in dat gut
>>336529208
I don't know, look at Guile for instance, he has GAINED complexity since SF4. This is a good thing, it shows that not all characters are going to be tuned down.
>>336529140
I dunno anon...rushdown scenarios and pressure causes him to fall apart, mostly because he lacks a great reversal beyond sacrificing V meter.
>>336529057
I think you amigos don't know how to punish him. His specials are incredibly unsafe, but he makes up for it with great normals.
>>336529315
forever disappointed that claw is now motions and every other charge character is going to remain charge.
>>336529321
Yes well I prefer him to remain consistent with his visuals, if its a balance issue, then they could buff him elsewhere, I don't mind.
>>336529408
Claw motion is the best thing that ever happened to him. He was either retardedly broken and gimmicky in games like ST or CvS2 or fucking garbage like he was in 4. Finally Vega is actually good and fun.
>>336529315
Hell no he hasn't. Guile's extremely situational corner loop that requires full resources to do worthwhile damage is much less important (and also much easier execution-wise) than learning how to FADC flash kick into sonic hurricane. Also his setplay is much easier in V because of the ridiculous frame advantage you get off of his v-skill'ed sonic boom.
>>336529562
It definitely is a positive change, but I played him a lot in 4 and the sudden change threw me off forever. But yeah, I agree it is better in the end.
>>336524732
>getting in
>combos
Do you know who you're playing as? Just cause Guile can now, doesn't mean he was built for that
>>336525756
>minusfouronblockstandfierce.png
It's actually minus 6
>>336528860
Is necalli really just
>Crush Counter: The Official Character
>>336528946
Birdie is shit. But he's still better than Zangief.
Q when??
>>336528860
use dive dick to allow more control on where you land, use his charge attack when you mind a fireball, and once you get in never let go.
>>336529908
No that's Bison
>>336524028
No Decapre no buy
>>336529981
Season 2.
>Played the guile archetype in every game since alpha 3
>Get to V
>Super hype for Nash since Charlie was my favorite and he has cool new moves
>Guile comes out, he's just Bulleta from VSav
I CANT CHOOSE THEYRE BOTH SO FUN
>>336528860
>cheesed by fireballs
Nigga just discs guidance through them, you get a lot of v meter from the seismos too so don't be scared to throw them out at range. Stomps count as a projectile too and will cancel fireballs if timed right
>>336530213
Try season 4.
Season 2 is Oro, Akuma, Sakura, C.Viper, Abel, and Sagat.
>>336530250
I too know this feel. If only I didn't suck at charge characters.
>>336524417
Flo's the best.
>>336530250
You wish, Bulleta had a low/mid projectile and a double jump
>>336527458
You're obviously the only one who's retarded.
>>336530421
>Sagat
Never ever. We'll more than likely get Ed or Azam
>>336530421
Would rather Adon over Sagat to be honest.
>>336530634
Yeah and Guile has an actually good Anti-air, but they're both combo monsters and can surprisingly switch between pressure and defense on the fly.>>336530694
>>336524028
Well, the hair is too flat, also Guile was never a comical character yet they literally turned him into Johnny Bravo
>>336530421
>>336530847
Already confimed by Ono that Sagat isn't happening in a SF game for at least 10 years. So never happening in V. Thank fuck. Fuck Adon, too.
>>336531363
Source?
>>336531451
www.yourmumshairyassfaggot.com
>>336531206
Guile isn't comical in V. He'scool.
>>336531451
Some interview like 6 months before the game came out. I don't remember where. His reason was that they are avoiding clones and Sagat is literally just a shoto.
>>336531864
we already have ken and ryu, even if they feel different now they are still the two characters that are the most alike in the game. Also, we're going to have Akuma too, who is just a better version of Ryu but with less health.
>>336531864
I thought that is what you would say. That isn't "Already confimed by Ono that Sagat isn't happening in a SF game for at least 10 years.". He was talking about the vanilla roster and even so, if they really thought Sagat was just a shoto clone (he isn't) they would just rework him like they did with Charlie and Ken.
>>336530150
2017 brother
>>336531864
Homeboy's all pacifist at this point anyways.
>>336532103
Is this what denial looks like?
>>336530213
More like season 5
>>336532270
Screencapped faggot, just you wait...
>>336524028
I think he has a really safe and bullshit moveset that's been amplified in this game, but I haven't played SF since SNES/Genesis days, so what do I know?
>tfw have to wait until the end of the year to do Aegis Reflectors in the club
>>336532365
Actually if you look at guiles frame data his moves are substantially less safe than they once were, and important pokes have had either their startup decreased or utility knocked off them (for example forward HP whiffs on crouching opponents) So hes actually less safe and harder to play neutral with.
But hes got mahvel combos to compensate.
>>336532016
Why would they bring a Tekken character to SF?
>>336532023
>Sagat isn't a shoto
>“In the West, you call these characters ‘Shotos,’ but we in Japan call them ‘Dougi wearers’ as they generally wear karate gis. Characters like Ryu, Ken, Dan, Akuma, Sakura and Sagat fit the paradigm, even though their costumes differ. Even Poison would fall into this territory as she has a projectile, a forward momentum move, and an anti-air attack (Ryu players will feel right at home with her).
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/15/capcom-says-ultra-street-fighter-ivs-red-focus-meant-casual-players/
>>336532539
What's the time line of post release content?
>>336531864
His argument about shotos is kinda weak when we know Sakura and Akuma will be added in later DLC, but i can see them restricting the number of shotos, one per season or something like that, so it will be a while before we see Sagat again, plus what >>336532118 said, his story concluded, and so there isn't much for him to do now that Capcom wants to get more serious with the story
>>336532539
>>336532727
If Urien is last that means we get him September. Not December.
>>336532727
If it's the order it was shown in:
>May: Balrog
>June: Story Update
>July: Ibuki
>August: Juri
>September: Urien
>>336532660
>Sagat isn't a shoto
No, you deliberately didn't quote my entire sentence to warp it's context.
>>336532587
As long as he has that damn kick and Sonic Boom, he will always be a frustrating character to play against. Him and Chun-Li. No matter how much you nerf them, it still doesn't change that they have annoying kits that punish mistakes hard, but aren't very easy to punish in return.
>>336532815
>Boxer soon
Yes lawd
>>336533038
May 32nd along with the zenny shop.
>>336533038
So May update at EVO, then?
>>336532946
In SFV, guiles sonic booms have long enough recovery to be punished by close jump ins and his buttons that give him reach/forward momentum are either much slower or are very unsafe.
His long/close range game is very strong, but he is surprisingly weak in the midrange.
>>336532660
>people still wanting in-depth tutorials
Literally wasted resources
>>336533078
>May 32nd
何
>>336532893
>"if they really thought Sagat was just a shoto clone (he isn't.)"
It's not a matter of whether or not they'd re-work Sagat. It's a matter of you declaring that Sagat isn't a shoto, which he is by all definitions used by the team that created him. Nothing wrong with admitting he fits under the same sub-genre of fighters as Dan, Poison, and Sakura.
>>336527458
He couldn't block, dummy. That was one full 50% damage combo followed by a throw that led to stun, which then allowed him to start a second long ass combo to finish off the last of his health.
Even if Ryu was at 100% health, that Sonic Hurricane at the very end would have killed him.
>>336524028
>>336533253
>It's a matter of you declaring that Sagat isn't a shoto
Do you know how to read? There is a difference between a shoto and a shoto-clone.
>>336533342
>"Characters like Ryu, Ken, Dan, Akuma, Sakura and Sagat fit the paradigm, even though their costumes differ."
Please stop posting. Besides, where does the line get drawn between a "shoto" and a "shoto-clone?" Is Ken a shoto-clone now that he is more different from Ryu?
>>336532194
already has an in game model
>>336533574
No he isn't. Neither was Sakura in 4.
>>336533680
I don't think I've ever seen such dedication from one person when it comes to any fighting game character outside that one dude who has like 10 years worth of Ingrid drawings done. And I say this as someone who mains this piece of shit in every game she's in.
>>336534067
>one person
>>336535983
Are you implying there's even more than one person that even likes Decapre?
>>336536392
Haha epic meme XD
>>336536392
And THIS is is how clueless /v/ is when it comes to fighting games.
