I just bought this game on PSN a couple hours ago and I'm already fucking addicted to it. Just beat the first boss in hospital. This game is fucking amazing. I never played a SMT (I LOVE Persona though). Are they better SMT games than this or is Nocturne the best one?
I haven't played a MT game I disliked.
Except P4
>>336512372
I played all the Persona and most of the SMT games. I have to say Nocturne and the rest are the most overrated games of all time, even more than God Hand and Okami. SMT pander to pretentious pseudo-intellectuals and Persona panders to casuals
>>336512570
>SMT pander to pretentious pseudo-intellectuals
>>336512372
Nocturne is the best SMT by a wide margin because the games after it regressed. Persona 2 duology or Persona 4 Golden is the best Persona. SMT II is next best SMT
>>336512779
I'll give you IV only because "dump all your points into one stat and forget" but Strange Journey was amazing.
>>336512949
only good thing about SJ was the setting desu
>Buying games
My sides.
>>336513157
What was wrong with the combat aside from the allignment attacks?
>>336512372
I'm starting to get over it myself because I decided to do the Labyrinth of Amala and hunt all the fiends and now I have no idea where to go and have been wandering for 2-3 ingame hours trying to figure out where I left off.
Still haven't found it yet.
>>336513529
What was the last fiend you fought?
>>336513231
It's fucking $10. If you can't buy a game for $10 then you are a sad excuse of a person
>>336512565
Persona 4 is the best SMT though
>>336513589
>Buying a game when you can get it for free
>Not modding your PS3
Even worse than Nintendrones who buy roms.
>>336512372
Get Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 and Raidou 1 & 2
>>336513572
I'm up to the Pale Rider, but that's not the issue here.
The issue is that I can't progress in the story because no one will tell me about Yoyogi Park so I can open up the route and continue to the last 3 fiends. I have no idea what to do.
It's a good RPG, but Strange Journey is better.
Sure, Nocturne is prettier, but SJ lives and breathes Wizardry.
>>336514006
I vaguely remember that......you're pursuing Sakahagi right? You need to go back to the manakin capital and talk to Futomimi
![lOESU[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CTRB8LF.jpg "lOESU[1].jpg")
You guys DID do every fusion loop hole you could find to make Pixie the strongest asset of your arsenal, right?
>>336514136
I can't think of anything that SJ does better than Nocturne.
>>336514454
More demons....that's it really.
I'd kill for a full blown 3d SMT with IV's roster
ONE
>>336514557
They have to use the P5 engine for something.
>>336514454
Best dungeon design. Better setting for me. Sure as hell lacking in battle system though.
Nocturne is basically the best game ever made in all honesty
>>336514369
Yeah man, I gotta go to Mifunashiro to talk to a Manikin there, so they can tell me about Yoyogi park, so I can open up the Manikin Collectors shop route and then I can finally progress.
But there is no Manikin in the entire Asakusa/Mifunshiro area that mentions Yoyogi parkyetso the route I need to go through can't open up. They only solution I can think of is that I missed one scene somewhere, but searching the entire map with no real goal is really irritating.
>>336514416
No I made Cu Chulainn fulfill that role
>>336513807
>buying a ps3
>he didn't steal one
>>336514657
The world was more fun to explore in Nocturne than SJ though
>>336514717
I just looked it up and apparently there's a scene in northern Asakusa with a pixie that sends you to Ikebukuro on a short detour.
That's the only think I can think of. The next step IS to talk to Futomimi (the sage manikin they all talk about and worship) in Mifunashiro
>>336514416
isn't Hassohappa better than deathbound?
Nocturne is the Third Strike of SMT. A great game in its own right bur cam changes so much that it arguably isn't an SMT game anymore.
>>336515049
But changes*
>>336515019
I'll give that a try, I hope this is it.
I sincerely thank you kind anon.
>>336515041
Not if you're fighting a boss. It only hits once.
>>336515175
Np, god speed
this still isn't available on PS4 right?
Started playing this game a while ago,but stopped before the Diet Building.
It just never really captured me like SMT4 or Persona did. Looking forward to playing the rest of the series though.
>>336513592
>>336513404
It was boring
You rolled the dice for attack order
Demon Co-op provides no tactical advantage aside from 'do more damage'
Setting, story, and dungeons were all top-tier though
>>336515318
>Stopping over 80% through the game
But why? It's getting good at that point
>>336514797
>40 Ma instead of 40 Ag
so is Fina- I mean APOCALYPSE better than 4, and by how much?
>>336515542
Not him but I stopped my game toohow do I beat Trumpeter
>>336515604
I ran out money resummoning mitamasIt drove my OC insane to the point where I grinded him two levels to fix
>>336515716
You really aren't supposed to shoot for the neutral ending in playthrough 1
>>336512949
Strange Journey is still a regression, it lacks major gameplay elements that even SMT 1 and 2 had hell even MT 2 had. The setting and music were 10/10 though.
>>336515716
Evil toot kills the member of your party with the lowest percentage of health
Holy toot fully heals the thing on the field with the lowest percentage of health
He alternates between using them every 4 turns, what you want to do is make sure you have a demon that you can do without use a physical skill after a full party heal to ensure that he dies to evil toot, then use a revival bead (or whatever the weakest revive item is) and resummon him before he holy toots so he gets the heal and not Trumpeter
>>336515716
That fight is horseshit.
You have to have a bunch of fodder demons in your reserves that are near dead and summon them the turn he's going to use Evil/Heavenly melody to eat it. Go get a bunch of low level shitters killed and use the cheapest revival item on them, that should put their hp low enough.
If you can manage to make sure every trumpet attack hits your fodder demons you'll win, gl.
>>336515716
>Not killing him so quick he never blows his horn
>>336515996
Also if I remember right he doesn't have dekunda or dekaja, so it's easy as shit to have Demifiend do like 3k damage per turn to him
>>336515049
no one but you thinks that, no one
pls rate lads
>>336516280
Wheres the buffs?
0/10
>>336515542
Not him but I stopped at just before the final boss, I kinda wanted to get a metatron and some other god tier demons to accompany me to the TDE but I got bored.
>>336516193
He right though. Nocturne is the black sheep of SMT
>>336516280
he's a big goy
>>336516280
>No buffs
>No Makatora
>>336516280
you didn't even try
>>336516280
Lol what
>>336516474
actually ST is since it is not a numbered entry, doesn't have a post apocalyptic setting in japan and went from a fully explorable world to a pure dungeon crawler - you're wrong
>>336516193
>reason replaces alignment
>game might as well be open-world with how empty it is.
>story is sparse even by Smt standards, very little character interaction
>guarding is completely replaced in importance by parrying
>blatantly unbalanced among the franchise, with a few massively overpowered characters, a few me ones, and Sean
>focus on short bursts instead of Alpha's heavy combos
>>336515256
God, I feel so stupid now.
Apparently at some point I saw the Mantra HQ scene and then saved and quit the game. When I came back the day after I must have reloaded the older save that hadn't viewed that scene and ran around like an idiot.I keep two saves becuase I don't know why.
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever done in a game.
>>336516474
I wish more SMT were like Nocturne
fists > guns/swords
>>336516832
>and Sean
That hurts
>>336515615
>Femboy main character
>Censored
>No dual audio literally every from Fatlus so we'll get terrible dubbing as usual
>Getting it nearly a year after JP as usual since NA and EU are still viewed as filthy gaijins who don't deserve more than tablescraps from honorboru Nipponese masters
Why should we be hyped for this again?
>>336516474
lol
>>336516834
It's ok anon we all make mistakes
Now go punch that disco ball
>>336512949
IV was better except in all faucets except for that
Hopefully Final fixes that
>>336517029
Are you fucking retarded?
>>336517132
I will anon, I'll punch the hell out of whatever it is you're talking about.
damn, SMT sure is fun
This game isn't on ps4 psn right
I just finish SMT 2That was the most good/upbeat Chaos ending I have ever seen
I'm on smt 1 and I just beat a guy guarding some sort of teleporter, I went through it and now I'm just wandering around town going into dead end yellow buildings, what do I do
>>336515615
- Demons have affinities, so you can no longer put whatever into any demon without consequences (expect them to do shit damage if they don't have affinity to what you gave them).
- STR is fixed and viable.
- Map is easier to traverse.
- Base game is just a bit harder, but with hard mode and other items you can make the game as tough if not even harder than Naraku.
- There are some more demons, and the "shit" looking demons of IV now have better art.
- Your MC can break the 99 level cap, so you can min-max to your heart's content.
- There are more clothes to buy.
And that's pretty much what I have seen or read around.
>>336517662
Nope
>>336519613
>even harder than Naraku
Sorry, what? Are you saying the base game is easier than Naraku/the beginning of SMT4 was?
Or are you referring to something else
>>336520216
Oh sorry, I meant that the normal mode of Apocalypse is around the same difficulty as the Tokyo section of SMT IV, but with hard mode it has a difficulty similar to what you see in Naraku.
And if you equip items that give you crazy stats (like +10 in all stats and strong to physical, but weak to everything else) the game can become insane.
>>336520550
From what I hear Apocalypse is a lot more difficult in general, even in normal mode
>>336512372
Come back when you fight Matador.
ye old 4th calpa is horse shit
should i do that or the diet building?
also why did i fuse a girimehkala with all 3 mights
>>336518245
go into all the rooms until you advance the plot, then go into more rooms
that's SMT1
>>336521479
excellent, exactly what I was hoping for from this game, thank you
>>336521590
occasionally fight a boss
it's quite good really
>>336521405
>4th kalpa
Holy shit I completely blocked that garbage out of my memory
Just go for the Diet Building, just be sure to hit the bottom of the Amala Labyrinth before you enter the final dungeon
>>336521698
which dungeon is the final dungeon? i don't really feel like looking at a walkthrough
>>336514829
This nigga
>>336521852
Bigass tower that stomps the Obelisk into the ground, you can't really miss it
>>336521920
alright sounds good. thanks
>>336516174
Actually he does have Dekaja, but not Dekunda
>>336521405
>repel:phys
And that's why I ran from these fuckers every chance I got.
>>336522907
>mfw I finally got Pierce
>And tried to use it on one
Thank god I kept Endure on Demifiend
>>336513592
>>336517143
>in all faucets
hehe
>>336514136
SJ kills party variety with how the alignments work, also healing mid game is fucked to high hell. God help you if you didn't fuse king frost
>>336523005
>get Pierce
>"Finally, I don't need to worry about repel"
>doesn't work on repel
>"What's the point? I'm getting rid of this waste of a skill slot"
>true final boss only takes 25% damage from all damage types and has 65k HP
>mfw
>>336523005
>>336523493
>mfw I can hunt down those niggas with no problem
>>336523658
*Stomachache intensifies*
>Freezing a boss with Bufu
>>336523793
*Iron Stomach*
>>336523861
>Shocking Mot
>>336523861
>shock one enemy in a group boss battle
>next demon has attack all
