Why did they make Dark Souls so easy? Why is Bloodborne more challenging? I beat DS3 in 20 hours but it took 40 for Bloodborne. Better level designs and more challenging gameplay.
Where did FromSoft go wrong? Was it because they were trying to appeal to casuals? Man,I still play Bloodborne almost everyday and I haven't touched Dark Souls in over a week.
>>336500080
>this thread again
>tfw you'll never be as autistic as OP and make the same shitposting thread everyday
>>336500198
Suck it up,Soulsfag. Everyone knows Bloodborne is superior.
>>336500257
If everyone knows why do you need to make a thread everyday?
>playing dark souls for the difficulty
REMINDER THAT DARK SOULS WAS NEVER THAT HARD
IT'S A MEME, ONLY CASUALS THINK IT'S HARD BECAUSE THE DIFFICULTY IS RELATIVE TO THE MODERN INDUSTRY
PLAY F-ZERO GX OR NGB OR MEGA MAN 9 AS PROTOMAN OR SOMETHING IF YOU WANT HARD
Muh Bloodborne & Dark Souls thread #11037846478
>>336500807
Keep crying,Sonynigger.
>>336500708
>PLAY F-ZERO GX OR NGB OR MEGA MAN 9 AS PROTOMAN OR SOMETHING IF YOU WANT HARD
Nigger please. Try Ghost N' Goblins, Ninja Gainde and Contra and then come back to me
>>336501398
I've beaten Ghosts 'N Goblins four times (twice?) and Ninja Gaiden NES. I haven't played Contra but I didn't mention those games because they're too obvious.
I'd also like to point out that the Story Mode of F-Zero GX is probably just as hard as any of those games if you play it to actually unlock the racers, which requires the hardest difficulty.
>>336501398
>Contra
>hard
kek. can literally run through that game without losing a single life. yes, a life, meaning Ive gone through it without getting shot once.
stop being retarded neo /v/
>>336500080
Opposite for me, BB with dlc took me 23 hours, DS3 took 40. Both using a STR build if it matters, had more trouble with certain DS3 bosses than anything in BB.
>Best final boss in soulsborne:
Soul of Cinder
>Most versatile boss in soulsborne
Soul of Cinder
>Most spectacular boss in soulsborne
Nameless King
>Best music
Twin Princes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s [Embed]
>Best atmosphere in a boss
Oceiros, Consumed King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4KjLWUZkbU [Embed]
>Most beautiful areas in soulsborne:
Irithyll of the Boreal Valley, Archdragon Peak
>No soul memory unlike DaS2, therefore pvp is better
>Best bosses in any first release content for a souls game
Pontiff Sulayvahn, Abyss Watchers, Aldrich, Dancer of the Boreal valley, Champion Gundyr, Dragonslayer Armour, Twins, Soul of Cinder, Nameless King
>every single boss feels unique from one another, none feel redundant
>Best consistency in area design of any soulsborne game
>Best area in any soulsborne game, Lothric Castle/Grand Archives
>best Npc's in any soulsborne game
And a laundry list of BB's flaws to discredit it further:
>One Reborn, celestial emissary, micolash, rom, wet nurse, shadows of yharnam, and the majority of the shitty chalice dungeon bosses being awful
>Chalice dungeons existing and being unused potential
>healing system is atrocious, and always nags on you, removes game flow
>having to teleport TWICE to go to area to area or even reset an area
>rune system in BB is massively inferior to rings
>Arcane is underdeveloped, hunters tools have nowhere near the versatility or utility that dark souls has in terms of defensive, offensive and general function miracles/pyromancies/sorceries justifying all the points into intelligence/faith
>arcane at launch was largely justified by meaningless weapon scaling
>games content at launch was depressingly short
>everything after amelia in the release game is awful except ebrietas, logarius and gehrman
BB babbies justify their game solely through the DLC, which was actually good, but let's not pretend for even a second that what was launched originally wasn't shit.
>>336504005
Gherman was a better fight than soul.
>>336504005
I can't believe you just wrote that all out. Get a life,Sonynigger.
>>336500080
I've platinumed Bloodborne, but cant finish any of the DS games.
>>336504005
>>Best music
>Twin Princes
IMO they missed a prime opportunity to use just one licensed track in the entire series here. Two Princes by the Spin Doctors.
>>336504641
Gherman was a shit boss, the only good boss in vanilla bloodborne was Gascoine.
>>336505502
Gherman was a lot of fun. Not quite as good as Maria, but pretty close.
>>336504005
I agree with you, DaS3 is my favorite souls game and it's a perfect ending wrap up. I just wonder where the dlc is going, and hoping for some more mentions of Kaathe and Frampt.
So for Dark Souls 3.
The Pontiff is kicking my ASS. I can get past it's first form every other time or so, but it fucking doubles up like he's an Abyss Watcher, but I don't get a buddy.
What the fuck do I do?
>>336506202
Pontiff is not that hard. Keep dodging through his right side, and when you see the animation for his double team just go all out attack him. You'll get the phantom permastaggered and killed in 4-6 hits.
>>336504005
>Wet Nurse
>awful
really? it's one of my favorite fights in bb.
>>336506862
Wet nurse is shit, unless your autistic and let the fight drag on.
>MFW i'm too poor to get the game and give any valid critical statements
>>336507229
Sorry forgot attachment
>>336505426
>Two Princes by the Spin Doctors
Do you even know how atmosphere works? Did you get into the series thanks to the awful trailers with licensed music, or what?
>>336500080
Ds3 is longer, but the last 3rd is just the same dull shit.
BB lasted exactly as long as needed, and don't forget if bb was on pc /v/ would be calling it game of the decade.
>tfw DSP could complete Bloodborne while simultaneously masterbating with the other hand and STILL barely break a sweat
Why was Bloodborne so easy bros? Outside of the first two bosses, I don't think I died at all to any of the bossesnot including the DLC bosses.
>>336507843
Bloodborne is slightly friendlier to button mashing. That's all.
>>336507643
>if bb was on pc /v/ would be calling it game of the decade.
But /v/ hates PC games. Unless they came out in 1998.
>>336507843
>DSP beat DaS3 yet got walled on BB and gave up
>>336504005
>Nameless King
I hate this fucking fight because for the entire first half of the fight you fight the camera more than the fucking dragon you're trying to kill.
>>Best atmosphere in a boss
>Oceiros, Consumed King
What kind of meme is this? The boss sucks it's not very atmospheric at all, the only decent thing about that boss is that killing him could lead you to Untended Graves.
The rest of your post is shitposting not worth replying to.
>>336504005
>Best atmosphere in a boss
>Oceiros, Consumed King
>a talking boss is now best atmosphere
Fuck off
>>336507962
>Bloodborne is slightly friendlier to button mashing.
Dark Souls 3 is R1 Spam: The Game cuz that's all that's good and won't get you repetedly killed.
>>336507229
>not pirating the game
>>336500080
But Bloodborne didn't even have 50% of Dark Souls 3's content until the DLC
>>336508594
Quality>Quantity
>>336500080
>Why did they make Dark Souls so easy?
Are you sure you didn't just git gud and the difficulty's the same...?
>>336507843
YOU BETTER FUCKING DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!!!!!!
>>336508734
This
Why else do people love DaS but call DaS 2 shit?
>>336506386
Thanks for the advice, I just beat him. It was a hard fight, but it was faster than the Abyss Watchers for me.
>>336507843
DELETE THIS!
>>336508865
>>336509405
Is this some DSP maymay? I'm not nearly autistic enough to watch that fat shit to find out.
>>336509547
Time for a sippy sip anon
>>336509547
>he doesn't know about sippy sips
>>336509547
DELETE THIS
wow guys im so hardcore video games are so easy
my dick is so fucking huge you should all see it, but only after you git gud at video games
you'll never be as good as me though :^)
I honestly like DS2 the best.
/v is just angry and smelly
>>336509547
>not taking a sippy sip
Imagine how much faster you could have beaten bloodborne if it didn't constantly have frame-rate issues.
>>336503379
>Contra
>easy
Wow tough guy
>>336505426
>IMO they missed a prime opportunity to use just one licensed track in the entire series here. Two Princes by the Spin Doctors.
Is this guy legit retarded?
Guys what would you want to see in DS3 DLC? I hope they will bring 2 things back: Aldia and Ash Lake
>>336510295
>there are people who actually believe this
>>336507843
You can tank hits and spam blood vials and finish them while bosses are in the middle of a combo.
>>336500080
All this console war faggotry really is facilitated solely by the Sonyggers.
I honestly want to defend BB because I thought it was a enjoyable game, but to even began to agree on any level with such corporate-slave autists is inconceivable.
>>336511156
>I don't want to agree because I don't like the people I agree with
How hipster of you.
>>336511156
>i'm a contrarian and the sony boogy man is the only reason I'm criticizing a game I like, I swear!
>>336510537
Londor and angels
I hope they find a way to make it tie in with the current games map as well
>>336500080
>I enjoy diverse gameplay filled with variety and lore, even if it is clunky and unbalanced.
DaS > DeS > Dks3 > BB >>> Dks2
>I enjoy fast-paced, smooth and challenging gameplay, even if it somewhat singular in theme and playstyle.
BB > Dks3 >> Dks1 >> DeS >>> Dks2
>I'm a corporate bitch-monkey
DeS = BB >>>>>>>>>Darkshit 1 2 >>> Dks2
>>336511587
You know they won't.
>>336508164
>/v/ is one person
>>336511248
>>336511493
>Implying I've ever actively talked shit about BB and sided with the PCfats
I find both sides pretty cringe-worthy, but you Sonybros are in dire need to gain some perspective.
>>336504005
This pasta again?
>>336511657
/thread
>>336511906
I'm not even a Sonybro, if anything I'm more a Nintenfag who happens to owns some Sony systems and a gaming PC.
>Beat DaS3 on NG+
>Bored
>Decide to try DaS2 again since I never beat Cool Ranch smelter
HOLY FUCK THIS GAME IS SLOW AS SHIT. Fuck me but I've been spoiled by Bloodborne and DaS3 so fucking hard. I can't even imagine playing this now.
>>336511657
>can't prefer BB and DeS over the Dark Souls games without being le sonygger even though i'm primarily a pc gamer
Fuck off. Dark Souls 1 drops in quality considerably after the first half (it's telling that Dark Souls 1 more than any other game lost a fair share of its popularity when DaS3 came out), Dark Souls 2 is mediocre in general and 3 is a safe, bland uninventive game that relies too much on pandering and lacks challenge.
DeS had the benefit of introducing everything about the franchise while having what is still by far the best invasion system and BB is the only DeS sequel to actually take the Souls formula and expand on it in any meaningful way.
>>336507843
what's funny about this is that aside from the joke bosses, Cleric Beast and papa G were the only bosses I beat my first try. Maybe because I didn't have to unlearn anything from the souls games?
>>336504005
>best track
>not Abyss Watchers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0LdIZ8TWYo
>>336512867
I still think it's Pontiff Sulyvahn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJSiaf9m55s
>>336512554
>BB is the only DeS sequel to actually take the Souls formula and expand on it in any meaningful way.
You mean Dark Souls and its interconnected world right?
BB is just Souls with faster combat and a different setting.
>>336507843
Literally beat every DaS3 boss first attempt outside of NK, Abyss walkers and Wolnir or whatever he's called (charged him at the start and died to poison like a retard).
Shelved the game after I beat it two weeks ago and have zero desire to play it ever again.
>>336500080
The only reason why you consider Bloodborne more challenging is because it was your first Souls game. BB is piss easy, I would even say easier than Dark Souls 3.
>I beat DS3 in 20 hours
So you rushed to the end boss and gave 0 fucks about exploring, clearing the optinal areas or even completing sidequests. Absolutely brilliant, you played it like a fucking retard would. You fucked it up, son.
>tfw I honestly cant remember any of the music from DaS3 except Firelink theme and the 2nd half of Cinder when Gwyns theme kicked in.
>>336500080
How did it take you 40 hours to beat Bloodborne? I beat it in 23though to be fair I missed out on Cainhurst castle because I was playing without guides. I do think Bloodborne is easier but I probably enjoyed it more tbqh.
>>336512995
Pretty sure he's referring to the core gameplay
>>336513047
>Souls game
>giving a fuck about the music
>not focusing
I never understood
>>336500080
Why do you care so much about the difficulty in a game where you can summon dudes to beat the bosses for you?
>>336512995
>You mean Dark Souls and its interconnected world right?
No, I don't.
BB did a better job in that regard anyway.
>>336513474
If you're posting here just to get the approval for being a pussy, you won't. Get good and go beat the game again.
>>336513330
>videogame
>not giving a fuck about the music
underage cancer
>>336504005
>You will never be this big of a PCuck
DaS3 is a shitty fanservice rehash of DaS1. It plays better than the other souls games but the game on the whole is recycled content.
DaS2 deservedly gets a ton of shit but its settings were for more interesting that DaS3's even if they didnt make any geographic sense
>>336513517
BB's nexus was just a bland excuse to please the Demon's Souls fags, but it's nothing like it. It doesn't share the same structure, plus is boring as fuck.
>>336513047
Agreed. Almost every track but Pontiff Sulyvahn is just big boombasic strings and then a gwyn rehash.
BB easily has the best music in the series. It's atmospheric, creepy, beautiful, and epic.
>>336513613
You didn't answer my question.
>>336513517
It's kinda sad that Bloodborne did the interconnected map much better than Dark Souls 3 did.
>mfw the flame towers in the swamp don't go out if you look at them from the start of the undead settlement
>>336513221
World/level design is inherently part of gameplay.
>>336513517
>BB did a better job in that regard anyway.
Fucking lol. No one can be this deluded.
>>336513650
Sure, I can appreciate a good score, but not when a total madman is wiling to kick my ass if I don't concentrate the moment I step through the wall of mist. The only moment when I can relax and enjoy the OST is when I'm in the Firelink Shrine or in the main menu.
>>336513816
>BB's nexus was just a bland excuse to please the Demon's Souls fags
Oh please, DaS3's "nexus" is even more obnoxious, they've even got a shitty MiB recolour sitting around just to bludgeon you across the face with it.
>but it's nothing like it. It doesn't share the same structure, plus is boring as fuck.
Maybe you lowkey acknowledge that the hunter's dream actually isn't a shameless nexus rehash like firelink shrine is.
>>336513918
>Fucking lol. No one can be this deluded.
Prove me wrong then you dull cunt. Most of your ebin "interconnectedness" in DaS is pure illusion.
For example, the visible "Blight Town" you see from Firelink isn't the actual blight town you play in.
>>336513692
It's called a sequel, dumshit. By your logic every sequel is a fanservice rehash.
>claims fanservice by posting the MGS Ludwig pulls out of his ass for no reason
Holy kek.
>>336514296
>>336504005
>best music
ds3 has the worst music in the series though. Not a single memorable track
>best atmosphere
>derpy talking dragon
ok
>>336514423
>I don't think its good therefore they're all shit and anyone who disagrees is a shill
>>336514395
The scale isn't the same as >>336514296
>>336514296
>Prove me wrong then you dull cunt. Most of your ebin "interconnectedness" in DaS is pure illusion.
Are you actually retarded and can't look at a map? >>336513918
BB world design is utter shit, filled with dead ends.
>For example, the visible "Blight Town" you see from Firelink isn't the actual blight town you play in.
What does seeing a LOD model have to do with how the map is designed? Do you think >>336513517 are the models you actually traverse and not a LOD model?
What a stupid fuck you are.
>>336504005
Fuck the Twin Princes ost; that shit is just derivative Gregorian chant trash. They couldn't even keep a consistent theme on this soundtrack.
Bloodborne knows how to have a track that makes it's enemies sound menacing without even having them on the screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg52ySSXv0s hear that goddamn string section? that's fucking music.
>>336514296
>implying I'm comparing it to DaS3 nexus
No. Literally the only thing I did was point out why BB's nexus is nothing like the Demon's Souls one. Twisting an argument like that is a well known fallacy, and it doesn't mean you're right.
>>336514296
>>336514395
>>336514584
thats just gwendolyn's illusion fucking things up
>>336514919
>Kill gwendy
>Nothing changes
Sure.
>>336514643
Nobody can deny that BB has the best soundtrack in the series.
>>336514635
You're a complete fucking retard. The shit you see in the background of DaS isn't simply a low detail model of a playable area, it's often literally just a non-playable representation of it.
No, LoD is not the same shit you imbecile. You do traverse those precise areas in BB, they just have shit detail when viewed from a distance. Duke's Archive's, when viewed from anywhere other than Anor Londo, is just a tiny low-poly model you never visit.
>BB world design is utter shit, filled with dead ends.
Just like DaS then? Special mention to the fact that the game cockblocks you with big orange walls if you venture too far from the main path.
>>336514296
>For example, the visible "Blight Town" you see from Firelink isn't the actual blight town you play in.
Not sure about that specific area, but I once died in Darkroot Garden and I could see the green glint (the souls I lost) from the Undead Burg.
Maybe that part of Blightown you're reffering too is a physical area, just not the part of Blightown you can walk through.
>>336515217
>The shit you see in the background of DaS isn't simply a low detail model of a playable area, it's often literally just a non-playable representation of it.
And? This doesn't change the fact the map is better designed.
>You do traverse those precise areas in BB, they just have shit detail when viewed from a distance.
Prove it.
>Just like DaS then? Special mention to the fact that the game cockblocks you with big orange walls if you venture too far from the main path.
Are you seriously even comparing the two?
Dark Souls is probably the least linear game in the series, while BB is one the most linear.
>>336515746
>Dark Souls is probably the least linear game in the series
DeS is objectively the least linear. 5 paths at all times. Only 1 progression-based lock beyond being forced to beat the first level.
>while BB is one the most linear.
You're brain is fucked.
>can't go to the archives knockoff early because the game doesn't spawn the fucking corpse holding the key until you've beaten 3 lords
Quality stuff from the Dark Souls 2 team.
>>336514643
>>336515056
BB's soundtrack is a bit monotonous though. Everything is ominous, everything is a dangerous beast, most themes can be swapped without sounding strange excepting for the Ayy Lmaos and Gehrman.
DS3 had a way better soundtrack because of its variety. Vordt is quite a symbol of it. I expected the average Gregorian chorus theme like Sakuraba did with Dark Souls 1 and the first part was composed like a glorious hymn mainly with brass. Pontiff had a church thing, the cursed tree had a horror vibe with music growing louder and louder to make you feel uneasy, Abyss had a pessimistic melancholic theme, nameless had a glorious epic theme, the twin princes have maybe my new favourite theme of the whole series, etc...
The whole mainly ominous strings part of BB make the different pieces very forgettable actually. But I must admit that Gehrman has an excellent theme that could be heard in a movie.
Poll results are in.
Hope you find it interesting. Poll was posted in /dsg/ and various /v/ DS3 threads for a while
Thanks for participating, if you did
>>336516412
>DeS is objectively the least linear. 5 paths at all times. Only 1 progression-based lock beyond being forced to beat the first level.
DaS is still less linear than BB.
>You're brain is fucked.
Are you denying BB isn't linear comparing to the first DaS?
>can't go to the archives knockoff early because the game doesn't spawn the fucking corpse holding the key until you've beaten 3 lords
I don't see why you had to start talking about 3 but it's less linear than BB, specially from a level design perspective.
I
Where the FUCK is Sirri's summon sign for the Deacons fight?
What the FUCK
>>336517692
>less than half played DeS
Really says a lot
>>336517634
>DS3 had a way better soundtrack
>variety
The only themes I can actually remember from that game are Iudex/Champion Gundyr's, Dragonslayer Armor's, Soul of Cinder's and Nameless King's.
I can remember Cleric Beast, Father Gascoigne, Bloodstarved Beast, Gherman's, Moon Presence, Micholash, Mergo's Wet Nurse, Ludwig, Living Failures, Lady Maria's and Orphan Of Kos' themes from BB.
>>336518471
Oh and Pontiff Sulyvhan's, I forgot about that, But still, BB's these are way more memorable on the whole.
