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I wish this game was better.
theres still dlc brev
i wish I didnt delete my characters
>>336418883
I wish I didn't have to rhyme everytime I sang
>>336420249
Dlc will just be linking end of fire ending to bloodborne as you rescue and train a child named Gehrman.
>>336418883
I wish they had a bigger budget and didn't reuse enemies so much
>>336418883
I'll play it again when i get a new pc in about a month; can't fucking stand the stutter and performance issues
i like it
>>336420503
(You)
>>336420415
Why did you do that anon?
>>336422747
I got the message about "invalid game data" and deleted them because I thought it would fix it
It never did and I did it for no reason basically
>>336422830
No backup to reload from I presume then?
What happened though, attacked by a hacker?
I wish invasions weren't mostly garbage now
>invade somebody
>buttbuddy with them
>get host to low health
>summoning phantom
>he lags and slides away to heal
>proceed to get triple teamed
wew miyazaki
>tfw you go back to Bloodborne and realize how much better it is
>>336423172
No, I had Cheat Engine on my computer from a long time ago when I stilled played GTA V
You could say I was a hacker in that game but not in Dark Souls 3.
>>336423529
Aw, that sucks anon. Hopefully when they review it you don't get banned.
>>336420558
but the events of Dark Souls 2 already take place after the end of fire ending
>>336423496
I just realized how adorable this actress actually is.With short hair, that is.
why did they need 5 lords of cinder if the unkindled was too weak to even reignite the fucking flame
>>336428013
you need fuel. lots of fuel. powerful fuel. Kiln of the first flame is literally a big ass mountain of ash. shit aint comin out of nowhere
>>336428228
but even with the 5 lords you just kind of simmer, compared to the big explosion in the first one
I wish every game was better.
Fucking kill yourself OP
>>336418883
>Just finsihed making my ronin
>Not only is it stylish as fuck chaos blade parries with hornet ring are mosterous
>Motherfucking quickdrawing parry one shotting niggas
Being a weeb swordsmen never felt so good.
>>336428334
Yeah? Well I wish I had more wishes. Who looks fucking stupid now?
it's the best base game in the series
>>336428450
I wish you lost your wishes, fag
>>336428284
my guess would be that it became only very desperate to let the flame burn and its right before fading no matter what; like buying minutes instead of hours in the first one. the world in the first one didnt look as apocalyptic as in 3 as well with a literal bleeding sun.
>>336428609
YOU ALREADY USED YOUR WISH FUCK YOU
I'm with OP.
It's a good game but there's so many glaring issues.
>poise is broken rendering heavy armor and Wolf Ring literally useless
>vitality is a useless stat because heavy armor and weapons are outclassed by lighter versions
>the best builds are high HP, END and a light weapon, spam R1 to win any engagement PvP or PvE
>despite the new skills and running shots bows are still underpowered, oversights like certain arrows being completely outclassed by standard ones despite cost
>magic and miracles are extremely underpowered save for maybe 1/8 of the list
>certain spells are completely useless like Warmth
>certain spells like Power Within are only available in very late game areas
>covenants matchmaking ranges are too restrictive
>covenant items aren't all obtainable by invading with a Red Eye, only Warrior of Sunlight and Rosaria's for some reason, others are at the mercy of matchmaking
>Profaned Capitol is blatantly unfinished
>cut armor sets and items
>busted cheat detection enables hackers to ruin your shit in a multitude of ways
>Namco Bandai's statement is akin to "we don't care"
>From hasn't made one and hasn't addressed things like Poise either
>From's patch notes are extremely vague comments like "additional changes"
And this is coming from someone who loves the game and series.
I've beaten the game and am on both NG+ and a second file.
I just hope they get their shit together and start patching at a faster pace than they've been known for.
>>336423496
>tfw you go back to Bloodborne just to get bored 1 hour later.
>>336428671
>Mercyful Fate
good taste
>>336418883
>I wish this game was better
I wish this game was [Spoiler] harder [/Spoiler]
Also I feel like the blood or dirt or whatever system your character gets on them after a fight is bugged or something.
It just covers your face in a greasy dark grey sheet, like they're in blackface. What's that about?
>>336423496
>tfw you go back to Diet Dark Souls and realize how much worse it is
ftfy
>>336428671
that wasn't even me, friendo
:^)
>>336429524
it's soot
>>336423529
so just having cheat engine on your hard drive can get you banned on dark souls 3? wtf?
>>336429524
Remember jubilant catarina? Fromsoft hates niggers.
>>336429727
It looks like shit and happens everywhere.
Such a huge step down from Bloodborne's blood and even Ivory Crown's snow.
>>336429913
the blood and monster juice does look nice when it splatters everywhere now though.
In terms of how the game looks and runs it's miles and miles ahead of DS2, which was a bit of a disappointment compared to ds1 (probably just made even worse because of that lie of a demo)
>>336418883
>I wish this game was better.
this is how i feel about souls games
>>336430280
this is how you should feel about everything
>>336430234
I'm specifically talking about the textures added to your character in each respective game.
DaS3's soot or elbow grease or blackface looks like shit.
>>336418883
>I wish I was better at this game
ftfy ;)
I enjoyed it, it's not on the same level as the first but it's more playable than Dark Souls 2 is to me.
>>336423448
I don't see how this is a problem
I've been summoned for teams before and a smart invader will kill the whole team by using the environment.
The game itself isn't that hard when you take things slow and easy, but if you rush things with enemies it can turn sour for you really quick. When the invader runs ahead to those problem areas that you HAVE to go through to get to the boss he becomes a real threat to a group of 3
>>336429198
How is profaned capital unfinished? Enlighten me.
>>336430446
I never understood how more soot gets on you. I thought it was when you use estus which would make sense because it's fire, but is it actually because of how much damage you've taken or is it just time away from the bonfire?
>>336423496
>tfw from got everything right in bloodborne and they somehow manage to drop the ball with das3
>>336428671
based kd
>>336430428
exactly but its just more noticeable with souls games
what it dark souls didnt have the 4 lord areas
what if bamco didnt rush dark souls 2 out in 6 months after forcing tanimura to fix the prevoius dudes massive fuck ups. would there have been more areas as good as the dlcs?
what if dark souls 3 wasnt linear as all fuck
>>336428013
>>336428284
Because the fire is dying, how can you miss the main plot of 1 and 3? You can't infinitely rekindle the flame, it will die out, sooner or later, no matter what you do. It gets weaker each time, and those who rekindle it are nowhere near as powerful as their predecessors to boot.
The answer is a new flame, which is what Izalith was trying to do, and failed. Killing the fire might bring a new one, the same way it popped out of nothing the first time.
>>336430803
Everything except certain boss health values.
>>336428335
>weeb swordsman
It's fuckin' glorious. Katana stance is way 2cool.
>>336430713
I was about to ask that too
>>336429198
>>336418883
It's more linear than Dark Souls 2
>>336430713
not him but I wish it was longer. Is the main part of it even necessary? Like the loop through the hand-monster swamp area
Dark Souls 2 is better.
>>336431082
The dlc, maybe
the base game was the worst in the series though
>>336430713
>>336430967
It certainly feels that way to me.
It's insanely small compared to other areas, contains one unique enemy type and Yhorm is a complete joke.
I'd be fine with it being a gimmick fight if it was viable to fight him without Stormruler.
>>336431082
DS2 has had SOTFS to make it good, anon. Give DS3 a year or two of patches and DLC to make it better.
>>336430803
This meme makes no sense as literally everything in BB is a step down compared to das3
it only survives because not enough people have even played BB I think
>>336431035
No. You can go from bonfire to Yhorm in about 30 seconds.
Seems content complete, nothing weird about it at all.
Ignore the palette swap jailers, the gargoyles that show up at Lothric and the Irithyll insect people. It's a totally original zone. We, I mean, FromSoftware even modelled those unique Hand Monsters for us.
It's okay. It makes me appreciate Bloodborne all the more.
There's definitely some fun stuff you can do though, going gankbusting is fun if you're a glutton for punishment.
>Tfw only hanging on for Lord of the Rings hoarding since new game+ adds no addition challenge outside of more heallth and damage
I hate whoever thought these Plus rings were a good Idea.
>>336418883
What triggers the eclipse?
I come back to lothric one day, and all of a sudden there's an eclipse. Why?
>>336431232
The only meme here is you being upset about not playing the game.
>it only survives because not enough people have even played BB I think
What are you even trying to say? Holy shit
>>336431524
>Freja showing up at the camp in DS2 NG+
underrated game desu
>>336431232
>literally everything in BB is a step down compared to das3
BB had
>less weapons
But in return had
>better combos
>more attacks
>many weapons were very versatile due to often becoming completely different when tricked
>weapons were creative as fuck (sword that becomes a bow, serrated club that becomes a massive serrated whip, rapier with pistol inside it, etc etc)
>>336431232
That depends on what you're looking for from these games, I think. BB was very singleplayer-focused, if you play these games for pvp then it's obviously a huge step down. But with that also came a lot of cool speed and focus.
>>336431582
Not enough people have played both games to realize DS3 is obviously superior. most of the people trying to force the idea that BB is better need it to be better because it's an exclusive
>>336431524
When I heard there was absolutely nothing to NG+ except for better rings I lost all steam to continue my aftergame save.
One of the only great ideas to come from Dark 2 was mixing up events in NG+ like the spider boss coming up out of the pit.
>>336431706
BB also had worse areas, worse bosses and way less variety before the DLC
>>336431792
It's pretty ironic you say that because the people who prefer BB have also played DaS3 while the people who insist DaS3 is better have /never ever/ played BB.
So really though, your opinion here belongs in the trash
I want to like this game but it's honestly too unforgiving, i beat boreal and i'm at this part where all these scarecrows or whatever are looking at a tree and they keep fucking me up.
>>336431984
>the people who insist DaS3 is better have /never ever/ played BB
[citation needed]
>>336420503
Whatever. Ride is catchy af.
>>336431792
It's a much different game from the others, surely that's why a lot of people prefer it?
>>336431831
what else other than adding a bunch of phantoms and a few extra boss souls? nothing. ds2 is shit.
A hacker tried to fuck my shit in kiln. Health went way up, but I realized what was going on and jumped off the cliff. Everything went back to normal.
I hope I don't get softbanned.
>>336431792
DaS3 is only more enjoyable than BB because of the lore, at least in my opinion.
BB is a better game in all other aspects, but fuck me if I don't love DaS lore.
Chalice dungeons were shit though. Can't fathom who thought locking away one of the funnest bosses in the game as the end boss of grindy dungeons was a good idea.
>>336431917
>worse areas
How do you figure? Most of the areas in BB were pretty good and some of that good design carried over into DaS3, in the form of places like Cathedral of the Deep.
>worse bosses
Not even close. The only "bad" bosses in BB were repeat Chalice bosses like the Merciless Watchers or bosses that were literally regular enemies, only buffed up. The vast majority of BB bosses may have been optional, but they were by no means bad or forgettable. Hell, Vicar Amelia is one of my favourite fights in the entire series for a variety of reasons.
And then you've got stuff like the amazingly hype Ludwig, Logarius being ultra-menacing (even if he is kinda easy) everything about Gehrman, the atmosphere of Rom's fight, the list goes on.
>>336432304
You could delete the character if you're paranoid.
>>336432097
Take yourself for instance. And any other poster who only owns a PC yet think they can hold a strong opinion on BB.
>>336431719
Even Bloodborne's PvP was pretty good when you could find it because of the versatility of weapon movesets and ridiculous pacing of the combat. If you wanted something fast-paced and frantic it's the best of Soulsborne by far. Also, heal parries.
It's biggest PvP problems were the invasion system (which really gutted PvP in like 90% of areas) and the general lack of build diversity.
>>336432429
This. The best thing about BB's PvP was that it was absolutely lightning fast. Fights could be over in as little as 10 seconds.
>>336432429
Heal parries were really cool and DaS3 could have used them.
>>336418883
Me too anon me too.
Everything felt so uninspired and....not new. Idk i remember beating it and just being like..."thats it".
Literally zero will to go into NG+ so now im just helping random guys with bosses.
>>336428284
The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. It may not have been a humongous explosion but if the aim is to extend the age of fire for as long as possible then a small flame is better, but either way it will still start to wither again in time.
>>336432321
Almost all of the BB bosses before the DLC are terrible. There are only three good bosses after amelia : Logarius, Ebrietas and Gehrman. Most of the chalice bosses are either repeats of main game bosses or extremely forgettable. The only decent ones are probably pthumerian descendant and bloodletting beast
If BB came out after ds3 and wasn't exclusive everyone would be currently shitting on it
>>336432678
>implying bosses like paarl (camera issues aside), mergo's wet nurse and micolash aren't cool as fuck
It's clear at this point that we're not gonna agree, so y'know.
>>336432381
no it's fine i watched someone else play it and it sux.
I'm a pc only faggot and BB looks like it's the most consistently good game in the series. I pray it comes to pc after the ps5 comes out
>Estocs
>Katanas
>Dark Swords
>Phantom ranges on all these weapons
>Insanely high damage on two of them even though they're simply straight swords / rapiers
>The only saving grace of heavy weapons is hyper armor which relies on good timing as opposed to mashing R1
It's even hard to get parries because latency.
>>336430921
>Killing the fire might bring a new one, the same way it popped out of nothing the first time.
isnt the "end of fire" ending heavily implying that anyway?
>"one day tiny Flames will dance across the Darkness, like Embers Linked by Lords past"
doesnt sound very subtle
>>336431917
>worse areas
>worse bosses
Ds3 has the meme poison swamp and rehashed areas from other games as well as shitty ginmick fights like yhorm, wolbir, ancient wyvern and deacons.
Its clear you havent played the game dude quit talking famalam.
>>336432678
Sounds like you have irredeemably shit taste. Or maybeNEVER EVER
>>336432429
Yah it looks like they used BB heal speed in DaS3, just no way to punish it.
>>336432429
The fucking gems were awful, completely ruined BB pvp.
>>336432876
12/10
Perfect
>>336432865
yeah stuff like maneater boar, the one reborn, rom, mergo's wet nurse is so good compared to that
>>336433060
I nearly forgot about the gems.
God what a fucking nightmare those were.
Chalice dungeons in general were a waste of resources.
>>336421803
I've fallen to my death dropping down to that stone bridge when I invade more than I would like to admit.
>>336432539
There's a ring for that
Why is it impossible to criticize BB without people saying you haven't played it? Does being platform exclusive make something impossible to discuss?
>>336432865
Not to mention a lot of the areas in Dark Souls 3 were copy and pasted from Bloodborne
Demon Ruins and catacombs were chalice dungeons. A lot of the main castle stuff were most of the setting of Bloodborne. And then copy and pasting a lot from Dark Souls 1. And gor whatever reason we needed way too many poison swamps and toxic swamps.
>>336433246
I play DS3 on PS4 and like it way more than BB. Still good though.
>>336430638
>use the environment
It helps a lot until I run into those mlg pros that seed you despite having meta-builds and 4v1 odds
Because it's about sending a message to me or something.
Still satisfying when I get gonkers killed all the time.
>>336433246
Yeah.
It's the only reason some people actually think BB is better than DS3, since they conveniently dismissed all the valid criticism with "lol u haven't played the game"
>>336433246
Because most of the people here do nothing but shit on ps4, then suddenly everyone is an expert on a game only released on a platform nobody apparently owns.
And calling a game shit isn't criticizing it.
>>336433279
Don't forget that the undead settlement is hemwick except less fun
>>336433246
Is this your first time discussing console exclusives?
>>336433279
funny to see you ciriticize a game for "copypasting", mention chalice dungeons in the same sentence, and not realize the irony
>>336433101
>maneater boar
An optinal chalice fight unlike the ones inlisted which are MANDATORY
>rom
Great fight
>One reborn
Easybut still a good fight
>mergo
Fuck yoy that fight was still better than half of ds3 fights
>>336432876
of fuck that's perfect
>>336432084
Walk around the group of them slowly and head to the right. You can deal with them later.
>>336433394
It's Hemwick with more interesting enemies and better level design actually
>>336433246
Because more often than not you haven't actually played it.
How are you gonna call the grapes shit when you haven't had them?
>>336433246
Because most times it's just saltiness.
I'm not defending Playstation or Bloodborne but that's what it is. Dark Souls 3 is around equal with Bloodborne imo. BB has better gameplay while DaS3 gets a huge boost for piggy backing off the enjoyable lore. It will probably change though if they get some hype dlc which they always seem to nail.
If Bloodborne would have had a better gimmick than fucking chalice dungeons it would have been a lot better game. What a fucking terrible execution
>>336433453
Chalice dungons were optional. All the copy pasted/rehashed shit in da3 wasnt. Learn the diffrence anon
>>336433467
>ancient wyvern
>mandatory
also I'm going to do the same thing you just did
>Yhorm
easy but still a good fight
>deacons
easy but still a good fight
>wolnir
easy but still a good fight
>>336433453
>all chalice dungeons have unique enemies
>>336430561
>Get to Cainhurst via horse and carriage.
>Cainhurst loads
>Horses dead
How'd they die?
I want to marry the firekeeper and read books in braille with her
>>336433650
>yhorm
agree
>wolnir
agree
>deacons
nah
now what?
>>336433650
>deacons
>good
>yhorm
>good
Yhorm had the chance to be good if they didnt turn it into a gimmick with the sword that completely destroys him in less than 3 minutes.
>wolnir
>good
Yeah nah none of those fights younlisted are good. Lets not forget shit crystal sage.
>>336433783
not sure why you're even arguing with me then
maybe read the post I replied to
>>336430803
>Everything right
>Chalice Dungeons
>Runes
>Gems
>Online is the worst out of all souls games
>More than half of bosses are shit compared to DS3
BB is easily on par with DS3 but it's not better in any way.
I played all the souls games starting with demon's in 2009. What I can never understand is how inevitable it is for BB fans to come out of nowhere and defend the game as the best in the series. It's not the best, it's a watered down experience. If you prefer it, that's fine, but it's just because you didn't experience the series as it was intended. That said, DS3 is not better than BB. I would say DS3 is a contender for worst BECAUSE of BB. BB's influence has been horrible for the series, and has left us with a broken mess that resembles DS2 at launch, even if it's not quite as bad. Bloodborne is not a souls game, it's a game pretending to be a souls game so that people who never played souls games can feel good.
>>336433453
I do. They copy and pasted the worst part of Bloodborne, which was copy and pasted throughout everyone.
Which you'll notice I lumped them all into chalice dungeons since there's no difference.
That being said, From can't get away from copy and pasting from Demon's and the first Dark. Poison swamp, a Blightown fall down rickety bridges section (dlc for das3), castles, run down towns, forests. A lot of the locations are very similar.
Also Dark Souls 2 has the best hubworld. The Nexus repeat in 3 dissapointed me
>>336433803
if those fights are that bad I have no idea how you tolerate stuff like celestial emissary, the one reborn, rom or mergo's wet nurse from bloodborne
wait you're not even going to list any arguments and just keep repeating the same inane shit either way
Mostly unrelated, but will the Neo improve performance on games that werent developed with it mind? Like BB for example.
>>336433935
Ds3 easily has the second worst bosses in the series next to two.
>>336430950
I let out a little "heh, nothing personnel kiddo" every time I land the lunging weaponskill attack.
>>336433935
>>More than half of bosses are shit compared to DS3
nope
>Runes
>Gems
Nothing wrong with these features if you're not an autist who feels a need to grind for the best gems to compete at non-existent pvp or something
>>336433731
Probably exhaustion/the cold/it's all in your head
>>336434015
It's not copy and pasting. The areas are different. that's like saying the gutter in ds2 is a copypaste of blighttown. It's not, I don't even like the area, but it's clearly just inspired by the first half of blighttown and is its own level
I feel you bro, its solid and a good game but it just feels uninspired
Its basically just Reference Souls
>>336434061
Nah 2 has great bosses. Demon's has the worst bosses.
>>336431082
No. Don't fucking start. Shockwaves are fucking unacceptable.
>>336434061
hilarious post
>>336418883
maybe try it without the dark sword
>>336434061
wtf no it doesn't. If anything the bosses are more true to the series than ever, they're all gimmick based off of the lore of the characters and not about EBIN dodge fests. and it still provides BB bosses for fags that need validation. I'm not even shitting on BB, I love BB. But saying ds3 bosses sucks is just being a contrarian that's mad that you don't get your adrenaline rush
>>336434252
why? PvE is terrible with slow weapons. You do realize there is no poise right?
Ludwig alone beats elevates BB beyond DS3 in terms of boss encounters.
>>336434036
>>336434036
Nobodies defending c emmesary because its basically deacons fight.
One reborn is great in atmosphere and actually a good enemy design. Mergos wer nurse is hell of a lot better than crystal sage.
>>336431217
I think you may have missed a path there buddy. What about the Castle in the green swamp that you have to climb to get toSiegwards cell.
There's those snorlaxes with handfaces there and a unique NPC. Also, it makes sense since there's no boss in Ithryll Dungeon and you have to pass through that to get to Profaned & Yhorm.
>>336434094
>>336434061
>Rom
>Wet Nurse
>Memelash
>One Reborn
>Shadows
>Witch
>Celestial
>Amygdala
>Everything in chalice dungeons
>Good bosses
Lmao
>>336434265
BB has more gimmicky easy bosses than ds3
wyvern
yhorm
tree
deacons
VS
rom
the one reborn
celestial emissary
living failures
micolash
not even counting the chalice dungeons
>>336434296
well thats just untrue. ugs smash everything, stunlock everything, knock most enemies around like nothing. you just suck and cant utilize hyper armor and want a braindead mechanic carried over from dark souls so you dont even have to try to play the game. its time to get gud
>>336434265
> If anything the bosses are more true to the series than ever, they're all gimmick based off of the lore of the characters and not about EBIN dodge fests
>they're all gimmick based
>not about EBIN dodge fests
Did we play the same game(s)? Since when are gimmick bosses necessarily the best? How are DS3 bosses not ebin dodge fests? They are some of the most boring, tedious, bullshit fights i've ever had.
>>336434296
lol I'll just let someone else field this
>>336434441
okay and? That doesn't mean shit. they're both good ass games. Why does gimmicky suddenly equal bad?
>>336434393
>lists of a bunch of bosses that he never got to fight, great and supbar alike
>"good bosses lmao"
HOLY SHIT DELETE THIS BBFAGS BTFO
>>336433731
already dead
>>336434349
One reborn is complete garbage mechanically. If it's great in atmosphere, how come Wolnir and Yhorm are irredeemable? classic double standards
>>336418883
you wish you THOUGHT it was better.
its not the games fault, its you.
>>336434526
>y...you didn't even play the game!
only took one post
>>336434442
>>336434498
I didn't realize there were so many hipsters on /v/ now
>ur just bad
It seems you're the one who lacks skill, if you think UGS beats darksword dps in pve. You can argue that it's viable, but why would anyone use it when hyperarmor only works for some enemies, and stamina constraints limit dps far more than using a 1h weapon (especially dark sword). You're in denial. Come bring your ugs to my fight club, so that I can make wallpaper out of your asshole.
>>336434459
If they'e tedious and boring bullshit fights then you must be talking about ds1 ds2 and ds3, because that's the whole fucking series.
My point was that there's an equal balance of both. There's ebin dodge bosses, and gimmick bosses. And the ones that are gimmick based tie into their lore
>>336433996
What the fuck are you talking about
>>336434520
Most people are shitting on ds3 for having gimmicky bosses and conveniently ignore the game they're praising to high heavens
>>336433246
Because when BB was released there were plenty of pcucks that spent their time shitposting discussion of it. Then when BB had collected into containment treads, pcucks would come in again to fuck with people who actually enjoy the game.
Most of /v/ is on pc (high-end) and the most hated group on /v/ happens to be the one with BB as an exclusive.
Therefore for months we dealt with shitposting upon shitposting. You can't even bring up BB in the fucking souls general on /vg/. It doesn't matter how good or bad BB really is. It will NEVER get the proper assessment of it.
It's always going to be shit on because of it's situation and it's always going to have diehard defenders.
So stop repeating the same question that every other retard brings up. You can't criticize BB without starting a console war, have fun,
>>336434686
You almost managed to type a sentence, keep trying Ethan!
>>336434629
>n-nani..... h-how dare you point out the fact that I haven't played this game?!
>>336434442
This desu senpai. I'm kicking the shit out of most invaders with a straightsword and shield, but the occasional faggot that knows how to handle his UGS is almost impossible to beat if he manages to even touch you with one of his triple swipes. Also when they do that the amount of invincibility frames is fuckin rubbish desu.
>>336434459
you probably don't really like dark souls bosses in general then, which is fine
>>336434785
I liked bosses when multiple builds were good against them, but they still offered specific builds an advantage. I don't like the buff to rolling, and find that rolling in DS3 is not nearly as rewarding as previous entries.
>>336434753
I know, it's impossible to have played Bloodborne. common knowledge at ths point
>>336434753
>anyone who criticizes my game hasn't even played it! it's perfect!
>>336433731
it's lovecraft, aint gotta explain shit
>>336434753
>>336434526
>The old I haven't played the game meme
:^^^^^^^^)))))))))
>>336434883
Well most bosses in this game can be beaten relatively easily with any build if you know what you're doing so I don't really get it
>>336434442
oh look, someone pretending that hyper armor is reliable in fucking PVE. You have brain damage. If you were talking about PVP i would be in agreement.
>>336434756
>compare UGS and Straight swords in PVE
>some faggot brings up PVP
>>336434982
Try one of the magic spamming bosses with a sorcerer. Get rekt.
>>336434982
You dont get it because you're conflating the argument.
Obviously you CAN beat bosses with anything. But build variety is shit and the bosses designs don't help.
>>336434974
>he googled bb trophies
AHHHH DELETE THIS
reminder that if you actually believe demon's souls and bloodborne are the best in the series, you have objectively shit taste
>>336434883
so basically you're mad because you can't hold L1 infinitely against every boss in 3?
Because i've beat bosses with nothing but a crossbow, a bow, a dagger, a ugs, a sword, a straightsword, a sword and board. So i'm not sure what you're talking about
>>336429783
Bullshit, I used cheat engine to get some free camera shots on DaS1 and my DaS3 is fine. It might be some controller adapters/external controller programs.
>>336418883
Every game could be better. What's your point?
>>336429354
/thread
>>336435086
If any build can beat any boss how can build variety be shit?
>>336435138
Bloodborne and ds3 are probably the peak of this series, followed by 1 and des. then 2 way after
>>336435074
Not that guy but I rolled sorceror on my first playthrough and beat crystal sage on my first try going in blind. Maybe its your own inability?
>>336435110
feel free to add me on Ps4 my IGN is INormandy.
EVERYONE STOP SHITPOSTING
>>336434993
How the fuck does the same not count for PvP faggot. It even says more about the weapon effectiveness than fuckin PvE.
>>336435143
so basically, you can't read and just type words?
You beating bosses with certain weapons means fuckall. You're not addressing my point, and instead being an edgy faggot. I abandoned shield after my first Dark Souls playthrough, I just liked that it was a choice, and not the default fucking mechanic. You're acting like there isn't a difference between effective blocking and holding L1 for the whole fight. Fuck off, and stop being a faggot. Blocking is completely useless unless you're going meme greatshield at endgame. It's effectively removed from the game for 90% of the content. Build. Variety. Is. Gone.
>>336430638
Except giant seeds are super common and are used in 8 out of 10 invasions.
>>336435185
because you lack the ability to critically think about things.
Just because someone can beat a boss with a SL1 naked fist doesn't mean a game has good build variety. Your logic sucks.
Went back to Bloodborne after finishing DS3 last week and I never thought how much I missed the speed and weapon variety of BB. DS3 still is miles better in level diversity, but the gameplay of Bloodborne is just so much more enjoyable.
Agressive playstyle > Passive R1 spamming
>>336435324
>How is pvp and pve meta different???
Kill yourself.
>>336435221
Wew lad, here comes the "i beat that first try, git gud" meme again.
>>336435462
If every build is viable, how is the build variety not good?
>>336434634
neat strawman. nobody said the dark sword isn't good, only that it sounds like you cheesed a game and decided to complain about it. and beating a ds user with an ugs isn't some crazy feat either
i think its great but i agree
>People believe that ds3 is the peak of the souls series.
AWAY
W
A
Y
>>336435571
sorry I'll make sure to die 69 times and bitch about it in the first souls thread I find next time I encounter a boss
>>336435462
and why would that be? you might need to explain your logic to us laymans
>>336435585
Because most builds don't even exist until the end of the game, or they are vastly inferior until then. Viability really doesn't even come into the argument desu desu.
>>336435616
>neat strawman
What strawman did I construct?
>nobody said the dark sword isn't good
No, they just said UGS was better in PvE. Which is objectively false.
>>336435750
Because there needs to be balance. It's not enough to just have builds be "viable". If some builds were outright not viable, then the game would be complete shit, instead of just disappointingly mediocre. This is hard stuff, apply yourself.
>>336435942
How do you define balance in pve then? If I can beat a boss as easily with a pyromancer as I did with a dex character, am wrong in thinking the game is balanced?
>>336435865
>they just said UGS was better in PvE
not anyone you replied to but I'm 90% sure that didn't happen
>>336435865
>No, they just said UGS was better in PvE. Which is objectively false.
Except nobody actually said that, and there's the strawman you're still pushing.
>>336435714
I will never get tired of that Yharnamite.
>>336434567
yhorm sucks because that sword recks his anus so easily it basically ruins the whole fight, wolnir sucks because he also dies instantly after you break his bracelets. GIMMICK FIGHTS SUCK
you might not like one reborn but at least it wasnt a cheap gimmick fest
>>336436087
>If I can beat a boss as easily with a pyromancer as I did with a dex character, am wrong in thinking the game is balanced?
Yes, because you've only tried two builds.
>>336436097
>>336436130
It was implied, but not explicitly stated. Slow weapons are objectively worse than fast weapons in PvE. Of course they are viable, but there is a huge gap in balance. UGS is not some king of PvE
>>336435942
Ah thanks I get it now, logic is actually just our opinions, thanks for clearing it up.
So for me, I feel like there are a variety of builds that are not just viable though, but actually good. So I would say that's good variety.
>>336434393
NOW LETS LIST ALL THE SHIT BOSSES IN DS3 WHICH MAKE UP HALF THE GAME
>yhorm
>wolnir
>wimp grundyr
>ancient wyvern
>ocerios
>crystal sage
>deacons
>vordt
>old demon king
>soul of cinder
try again anon
>>336418883
I wish you would stop making these threads
>>336436395
but one reborn is not any more threatening than these two and does baiscally nothing for the whole fight except throw a fireball or two. apparently gimmick fights suck because they're easy so I have no idea how the one reborn can get a pass here
I would argue it's still more fun to destroy wolnir's bracelet than mash R1 on one reborn while he does nothing threatening
>>336434441
rom is not a gimmick
one reborn is not a gimmick
living failures is not a gimmick
micolash is not a gimmick
i dont think you know what gimmick means.
gimmick is "hit this spot and he dies instantly" or "use this weapon and he dies instantly"
>>336436436
>Yes, because you've only tried two builds.
Actually that was just an example but good job missing the point
>>336423496
>tfw you played Dark Souls 2 before Dark Souls 3 and love how 3 got rid of most of the shitty parts of Dark Souls 2 again
>>336436596
>soul of cinder
>shit
lol
>>336436436
It sounds more like you're just reading what you want to read, and are holding other weapons up to a standard that's either OP or "viable". There is a gap in balance but it's not "huge". If you're of the mentality that it's only prudent to use the best equipment then that's fine, I'd agree. But if the game's really disappointing you I'd recommend trying other builds. Some are not only "viable" but pretty satisfying.
>>336421803
>Literally Fire Rasengan
Seriously From?
>>336436724
To be fair, Rom dies within seconds with bolt and a beast blood pellet
>>336436685
one reborn is easy but for diffrent reasons hence why its not a gimmick. could you imagine how awesome yhorm and wolnir would have been if the game didnt force you to win a certain way that made each fight last less than 3 minutes. fighting yhorm like a normal boss would have fucking elevated the entire game. same with wolnir
>>336436724
>gimmick is "hit this spot and he dies instantly" or "use this weapon and he dies instantly"
Oh OK, no bosses in DS3 are gimmicks then
>>336434061
Demons' Souls had the worst bosses by far. Dark Souls 2 bosses weren't bad, but entirely unmemorable.
Can we talk about how Dark Souls 1 had the only good dragon boss fight out of any Souls game?
>>336436927
honestly was. they tried to get ghermans atmosphere but failed. also this literally who lore guy is supposed to be interesting? all those boring copy pasted moves from other bosses. also not to mention hes easy as fuck.
>>336437075
I fought Yhorm without the storm ruler and it's not particularly good. These fights are not very good. The point is that the one reborn or celestial emissary are not any better
Giving invaders the ability to heal with Estus is the most retarded design choice they could have ever made and the game as a whole suffers because of it.
Seriously, what a complete fucking idiotic inclusion to an otherwise great game.
>>336436543
I stopped replying to him when he said shields were bad in 90% of the content. That kid is just full of shit.
>>336437141
even witch of hemwick which is the worst boss in bb is a more interesting fight than yhorm and wolnir
>>336437182
has literally nothing to do with gehrman. gehrman is also easier than him
>>336418883
The picture with the moon like that reminds me of this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw_HKzo9Ync
Fucking ultra-spooks
>>336437161
Kalameet?
Also sinh was really good.
>>336437182
>literally who lore guy
You mean the player character from DaS?
Look at that fucking blown-out elite knight armor.
>>336437240
Stop talking out of your ass, Witches of Hemwick was Pinwheel tier levels of boring and easy
>>336437240
hemwick is actually one of the few decent bosses in the latter half of BB. It's still pretty mediocre mechanically but at least it's interesting in terms of atmosphere
>>336437206
>its not any good without the sword
thats fucking point you dip. The game forced you to either have a super long tedious fight where you do nil damage or completely stretch his asshole in less than two minutes with that OP sword.
how many threads have you seen about people bitching about how hard rom is?
now how many have you seen about people bitching about how hard yhorm is?
exactly my point.
>>336437208
Having a 5v1 was a dumber decision
>>336437182
>literally who lore guy
He's an amalgamation of everyone who has linked the fire in the past, including Gwyn and the Chosen Undead from DS1. He's an incredibly fun fight, but I know you're just shitposting.
>>336437257
the arena you fight soul of cinder in was trying to match the flower field in bb. its so obvious anon are you blind son?
>>336418883
Tfw played
>DaS
twice in immediate succession
>DaSII
twice in immediate succession
>BB
twice in immediate succesion
>DaSIII
once then went back to BB
It's not even that BB's better. There's just something off about DaSIII that doesn't make me want to play it.
>>336437182
how many you's are you gonna get wth this bait
>>336429198
i know your feels mate.
I can't even bring myself to play anymore, I won't be getting the DLC unless there are serious balance fixes and they show a great amount of effort.
Just remember
>>336437402
You're not making any sense actually. where did I even mention rom in that post you replied to?
And fighting yhorm without the storm ruler doesn't take long, you just have to hit arms after his attacks
>>336437475
oh yeah i could see the similarity if these arenas looked the same in any way whatsoever
>>336432429
How did he get parried/staggered the second time? he wasn't attacking
>>336437141
>what is ancient wyvern
BRING BACK POISE
STOP MAKING EVERY RED INVASION 3V1 SHIT SHOWS
HOLY SHIT THE LOCK ON CAMERA, JUST KEEP IT IN PLACE MY FUCKING LORD
HAVE ROLLS ACTUALLY ROLL THROUGH ATTACKS, LIKE HOW THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO, NOT BE OPEN TO ATTACK HALF WAY THROUGH ANY ROLL
HOLY SHIT I NEED SO MUCH VIGOR AND ENDURANCE NOW, WHY CAN'T I GET BY ON 20-25 IN PVP? I NEED 40, AT LEAST, JUST TO NOT DIE IN 2 HITS
AND STAMINA GENERATION, HAHA? WHAT'S THAT?
RING OF FAVOR? MORE LIKE RING OF NOTHING.
>>336437623
yeah that was my bad about the rom thing. but fuck off by saying it doesnt take forever. I did it without the sword in NG+ and that fight took over 20 minutes. I was doing like 34 damage. it was like fighting vebdrick without any giant souls. awfull
>>336437697
You can get parried in Bloodborne when using an item/healing
>>336437714
If you need or have over 27 vig you're a faggot.
>>336437161
Velstadt, lost sinner on ng+, Aldia kept me on my toes, that lizard man with two halves fighting him on ng+ was fun, guardian dragon, Pursuer was badass...
Why did dark souls 3 take away the changes ng+ made?
>>336437703
One gimmick boss then. Doesn't seem that bad all in all
>>336437851
I bet you love black knight great axe, and lance, and magic pvp fuck babbies.
Oh you missed a roll? Back into a wall? Let me kill you in 2 hits because your vigor is under 30.
>damage absorption
haha, what's that?
>>336437836
If you hit his arms after his attacks, he'll eventually stagger. If you hit him while he's staggered he'll take thousands of damage. It's actually how I beat him initially
>>336438006
Not him but I got through the game with 20 vigor, hell I got to Pontiff Sulyvhan with 11.
>>336437161
Sinh was a better version of Kalameet desu
>>336438006
No, I don't use the BKGA at all. 27 vig gives you 1000 hp, and when embered you have around 1300. That's more than enough for anything I've encountered so far.
Go ahead and keep callng me a faggot or whatever, I'm not the one who needs 40 vig.
>>336438006
Went through the game with 22 vigor and 9 endurance, obvs needed havels ring and champions chain but I did it
>low level faith pvp char, using sunlight spear at lvl 40
I can't wait for DaS4 to come out so you can all stop being such massive bitches over this game. Its fucking laughable that people are saying DaS2 was better when that game had to have DLC and an update on top of that to make it good. Its like you fucks forgot all about SM and enemy despawns before the agape ring and CoC.
>>336438443
There won't be a ds4 anon, miyazaki said he's not going to do it.
they're working on a new ip
>>336437296
Yes. I didn't play the DaS2 dlc, so i can't argue about Sinh
>>336438443
Miyazaki himself said no more Dark Souls games. Not anymore Souls games in general but the "dark" series is done, and he's working on something new.
He did say that, were someone to come to him in a few years time and say they want to make another Dark Souls, he wouldn't necessarily say no, but for now it's over.
I think das3 is legitimately good. I loved Demon's Souls and was addicted to Dark Souls. DaS2 came around and I did 2 full playthroughs and dropped it. I couldn't stick around for pvp at all, the game just did not entertain me. Looking at it now, the game just felt so shit.
I'm still playing das3 since release. I'm making characters and pvping. The online for this is super active. Aldrich faithful is an awesome covenant, it works and it's active. It invades one after another, I'm digging it and I've had some super funny moments.
>>336438443
>ds4
he doesnt know
>>336436953
>Some are not only "viable" but pretty satisfying.
Mind giving me some examples? (I actually want to know, in the interest of fun)
So far the most fun I've had has been with my pyro. I found quality to be very boring.
>>336436765
>Actually that was just an example but good job missing the point
What was the point then? You can't say the game has balance because 2 builds are good. Why don't you try explaining yourself a bit if you want to be understood?
>>336438496
let's face it, that "new IP" will just be a souls game under a different name
>All these faggots claiming BB has some sort of deep atmosphere because "Lel lovecraftian" even though it isn't even lovecraft at all
It's atmosphere is LITERALLY fedoracore armchair psychologist drivel, tentacle beasts does not lovecraftian make.
The only thing I dislike about DS3 is that it's obviously set up to have the full story be in DLC which fucking sucks. I even like the gimmicky weakpoint tier shit because it actually feels like an older style RPG where as Bloodborne just felt floaty and I felt it took too many hits off the ACTION pipe for no good reason.
Bloodborne is literally the new DeS in terms of shitposting behind "lol you didn't play it". At least DeS was consistent and didn't go to shit at the end and dropped all pretence of depth by returning to "it's all just a dream".
The only thing that Bloodborne has going for it is the personality they gave to a majority of the characters, but that was about it. I can take that some people liked it or even prefer the design of it, but you gotta be shitposting or an edgemaster to think it is better than any of the Dark Souls games as a whole.
>>336438748
Sorry I didn't list every possible build under the sun because I thought you'd understand what I meant with an example
>>336438812
All this salt.
>>336438870
Ok so what you're saying is everything in DS3 is perfectly balanced, and fuck anyone who says otherwise? I'm not getting your point because you're acting like a shitlord.
>>336438924
>Le you didn't play it meme
>>336437046
>not recognizing a tailed beast bomb rasenshuriken
fucking 馬鹿外人
>>336438812
Yeah i agree, Bloodborne is better than any souls game.
>>336437225
Wait so you think shield aren't useless in DS3? If you're not talking about a specific shield, or an endgame shield with a meme build, then you're completely fucking wrong.
Go ahead and keep not replying faggot.
>>336439007
Maybe explain what is imbalanced? You haven't made a single argument at this point
>>336439193
20 bucks says he says R1 spam.
>>336438812
Yeah man, esoteric cults, elder/old gods, fathomless space, precursor civilizations, literal shoggoths, etc. nothing to do with Lovecraft, it's not like fedora armchair psychologist drivel typifes like 90% of what he wrote or anything.
>It's all just a deam
>he got the worst ending
This game is literally the pinnacle of the Soulslike genre.
I wish poise was on.
This shit forces you to use quick weapons that can stunlock people easy.
>>336439494
Why haven't they turned poise on yet? Did they intentionally leave it turned off? But then why would they even add it, or add the items that affect it? Did they realize if they turned it off now it'd change the pvp a bunch? Wouldn't it be for the better though?
There are so many questions and I just want my poise.
>>336439193
>>336439226
Right, because R1 spam isn't real and doesn't mean the game has balance problems.
Yes. r1 spam.
I can swing a 1h weapon for 30% of the stamina cost, and twice the speed, for 70%+ of the damage. This is a balance problem, and it's not the only one. Another issue is magic. Pyro is mostly fine, but sorcery and miracles are completely fucked on damage until NG+.
I'll explain a bit of my basic philosophy regarding the balance and design of these games. I think of it as a new player would think of it, not as someone who knows everything about the game. As a new player, Dark Souls 3 is unfairly harsh on people who opt for sorcery and miracles offensively, especially early on. This could be better balanced in my opinion. It's no wonder why every fucking person I play with uses 1h weapons and r1 spams. In both coop and pvp, I see this 90% of the time. I'm actually thrilled when I run into someone who looks like they give half a shit about their build, and isn't using dark sword/estoc/longsword.
20 bucks says neither of you addresses anything in my post and tell me to GG.
Played all three Dark Souls games after they came out, dropped Bloodborne after a week because the load times were such shit during release. I just went back and played through Bloodborne and the DLC after beating Dark Souls 3 NG+. My conclusion is that Bloodborne is better.
Capture Dark Souls's gameplay at its most intense and you basically have what it feels like to play Bloodborne. Though I like the atmosphere of all the Souls games, Bloodborne is (excuse me saying this) art.
>>336439812
>LITERALLY SAYS R1 SPAM
You can't make this shit up.
>>336423496
>tfw you love Bloodborne to death but the PvP scene is mediocre
>>336439889
>actually typed out a response in an attempt for reasonable discussion
>response is literal shit-post
Community is shit mane
>>336439812
Also, I agree with the sorcery and miracles argument, but I still don't believe R1 spam is a thing. I use a 2handed longsword as I did in DS1 and 2 and I can never spam attacks in pvp. And I've gotten fucked plenty of times by enemies using slower weapons. I also switched off and used the Hollowslayer greatsword for awhile.
>>336438812
>it's all just a dream
Nice to see you don't actually understand the concept of Dreams and Nightmares in the context of Lovecraft and associated mythos.
Dreams, Nightmares and the Waking World are different planes of reality. The Hunter's Dream is not literally a dream. When you're leaving it and teleporting to Yharnam or other places, you're not literally waking up. In the context of Bloodborne, "awakening" refers simply to moving from the Dream to the Waking World, or the Nightmare.
C'mon man, give it some thought.
>>336439934
will the dude ever finish the animation?
>>336433996
You've burned out on the series.
>>336439889
>this complaint is common so it must be dismissed
lol
>>336439494
>>336439754
because of pvp weapon viablity
it favors faster weapons, its like you guys WANT dark sword to be THE pvp weapon
>>336439812
R1 spam is the easiest, most braindead way to play the game. That doesn't mean it's the most effective. Yeah, most new players are going to pick the easiest option
Your numbers for the 1h/2h weapon comparison are also made up
Miracles aren't primarily for dealing damage. you can use miracles in cojunction with something else, and it's actually the main way miracles were meant to be used
Sorcery is kind of weird but is treading a fine line between useless and overpowered. it's a legitimate complaint but I think this sort of thing was never well implemented in any Souls game, except maybe BB with Arcane, which sacrifices variety instead
>>336439995
>but I still don't believe R1 spam is a thing
I'd like to point out that this entire time, I've mostly been talking about PvE. I don't think r1 spam is as nearly as effective in PVP, but it's still too good imo. I mostly just want new players to be encouraged to use other weapons as they play through their first time.
>>336440226
I thought you were talking about pvp. I admit I use R1 a lot for pve but that's the default attack button. In Ninja Gaiden I press X a lot. In Dark Souls I press R1 a lot. I just don't get the whole argument about "wah wah you keep pressing the attack button!!!" Would you rather R2 spam? Or R1/R2 every single time?
I'll freely admit the miracles and sorceries are underwhelming and only useful for the utility ones, like Spook or the healing ones, but I don't understand or agree with the R1 complaint I keep hearing.
>>336440219
>That doesn't mean it's the most effective.
I suppose I should clarify. It's the best bang for buck. I don't feel like there should be such a thing in a souls game. I understand there will always be cheese builds, but I feel like we are crossing a threshold into cheese weapon types and I don't like it.
>Your numbers for the 1h/2h weapon comparison are also made up
Fair enough, do you want to correct them for the record? We weren't talking about a specific weapon, so I had to make up the numbers. My point is simply that 1h fast attacks are efficient as fuck, even from a mathematical standpoint.
>Miracles aren't primarily for dealing damage. you can use miracles in cojunction with something else, and it's actually the main way miracles were meant to be used
Source: My ass
>Sorcery is kind of weird but is treading a fine line between useless and overpowered.
Exactly, but I'm talking about the pacing for new players. I realize sorcery can be fucking awesome, but it happens way too late imo.
>>336440354
> I admit I use R1 a lot for pve but that's the default attack button. In Ninja Gaiden I press X a lot. In Dark Souls I press R1 a lot.
it's not just "using r1" a lot over the course of a fight. It's:
>OH FUCK AN ENEMY
>ROLL ROLL ROLL
>R1 R1 R1 R1 R1
>ROLL ROLL ROLL
>R1 R1 R1 R1
dark souls was not like this. There is a very distinct difference between DS1 and DS3 in terms of gameplay incentives. I should also add that I don't like the buff to rolling. I miss how deliberate dark souls felt. It was slow, but fuck you if you fucked up. There was something satisfying in that. I feel that these changes have reduced that for me.
It's spammy gameplay.
>>336440689
So you dislike some core changes that were made to the gameplay, and that's okay, you're entitled to dislike them, but that doesn't make the game necessarily bad. I suppose at least I understand you now, even if I disagree.
>>336440689
its also very punishable
>>336418883
I like bloodborne a lot better.
>>336440508
R1 spam always has been the best bang for buck in souls games and I'm not sure how you would change this. Obviously it's the primary method of attacking, it's very simple to do and it needs to have some sort of efficiency to not be completely useless
The 1h/2h are situational. it's true that being one handed with a fast weapon is generally preferable if you don't have a lot of endurance. 2h has better burst damage in general if you can afford it
Miracles have a lot of utility spells. it's normally a balance between utility and damage. The damage dealing miracles do suck in general and hopefully they can find a way to make them balanced..though magic in souls games has always been a cliusterfuck
>>336440789
>but that doesn't make the game necessarily bad
Never said the game was bad bud, I have 200 hours in it. It's good (DS>DeS>DS3>SOTFS), but I have some disappointments. I could overlook a lot if poise was functioning.
>its also very punishable
In pvp? How can you punish it (I actually don't know)
>>336440689
"R1 and roll" is viable in DS1 though. DS3 just has faster enemies and a faster player character. I'm not seeing where ds3 is more forgiving if you fuck up, some enemies like pontiff knights can drain your health in a matter of seconds if you just blindly charge them
>>336441075
>>336440938
R1 spam has always been decent, but it's more powerful now than it ever has been. It's more of a gameplay style change really. You will generally be attacking more in each fight than in DS1, and so you'll be rolling and using r1 more. DS3 doesn't lend itself to niche playstyles as much, due to enemy and encounter design. In DS1, you would rarely if ever roll 6 times in a fight with normal enemies. If I had to sum it up, I would say that DS1 felt more "deliberate". Each action had more commitment. I'm really not sure how they could fix this in DS3, because making 1h weapons shit wont work. Maybe buffing the shit out of certain 2h weapons could help. I feel like DS3 is just as punishing as DS1, but it doesn't feel as satisfying to play for some reason.
>>336440184
Nah, I still had a lot of fun with DS3, despite BB's influence throwing a wrench into things.
>>336435145
>>336423529
Yea I have cheat engine on my computer too when I hacked in some black knight armor for a black knight run in DS1. Haven't had any problems yet.
>>336439027
>not actually recognizing it as a Yoton release rasenshuriken using son gokus tailed beast chakra
Fucking baka
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>>336418883
No gad damn replayability.
Wheres the different routs? Wheres the damn level skips?
Why is the meta so shit? Why arent there more abyssal horrors like the trailers implied?
>>336432876
>someone post the picture of Its Always Sunny with the mad phantom
>>336441731
Well there's already a sub-hour speedrun so the skips are there.
Not intended skip, mind you. No Valley of the Drakes or Heide's here.
>>336441982
thank you, senpai
>>336437208
is this supposed to be a parody of something....?
>>336418883
i wish my soulfu was real
>mad phantom character
>just do dick things
>decide to invade lothric castle
>host is near the bridge with the dragons
>get low and run away from him onto the bridge
>host chases me and takes a face full of flames while i drop down to safety
I did this like twice before I killed him
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>>336441897
>No Valley of the Drakes or Heide's here
Thats the problem.
Before I loved going to harder areas early with different builds to see what worked where. Now its too linear for me to not feel bored as shit. I played every other souls game 3+times with didfferent characters. I'm already bored of my new dex character since I'm just retreading the same ground in the same order.
I also just beat SGnG so linear isnt always bad if the gameplay is riveting enough,
And what the FUCK happened to "making your own bonfires"I just want to find the fun without resorting to pvp
>>336431917
Agreed.
BB is so strange, it starts awesome and it could have been the best game ever. Got tier early bosses and music, great starting area. Sadly you realise they ran out of ideas very early in developpement. Very disapointing solo and pointless in multi. I already put more hours in ds3 than in bb.
>>336436724
They're shit bosses.
>>336437257
gehrman is harder than soul of cinder desu
>>336442210
dragons are the best
>how to win a 1v3
>>336442131
>dark edge
you got that right
>>336439934
all pvp in modern fromsoft games are mediocore.
>>336442131
So do I
>>336442830
>Darth Niggous
>>336418883
my dad told me today he wished i was a better son
>>336442830
ugly deformation in the eye area
what is she, a zika victim?
-1/10
>>336442947
No, simply a nigger that escaped the cotton field, and managed to get in lordran/lothric and went full nuclear.
I can't believe how bad Dark Souls 3 is compared to how much fucking praise its getting from people who didn't play BB.
Dark 3 has no fucking detail in the environments, in BB every prop added to the atmosphere of the game, DS3 just has these huge fucking empty halls.
And the lighting, what the fuck did they do to the lighting? It looks so unnaturally lit compared to BB, despite being on the same engine. The "dungeon" areas are nowhere near as dark as they should be.
Speaking of the dungeon areas, about one third of DS3 is slightly more refined chalice dungeons, the other third is BB area rejects and the last third is actual decent new content that fits into the DS3 universe.
The enemies in DS3 mostly feel like they were designed to accommodate for the BB combat system too, they just feel cheap being thrown into the slower paced DS combat.
At least the bosses are mostly awesome, but everything else is so unintteresting...the linearity and lack of variety in the areas (wow grey forests and cathedrals) means I doubt I'll replay the game until all the DLC is out.
why is DS3 so rushed and lazy?
>>336439494
>mein dank
oh, now I get it. was wondering why that seemed to be people's favourite gesture.
>>336443094
literally everything you said is wrong except for the lighting
>>336443094
>why?
Bandai Namco
rate and hate
>>336418883
I understand why they removed poise but it kills replayability in PVE. There's no reason to go back and try heavy armour and weapons anymore, I've already experienced everything worthwhile in my first playthrough. And instead of fixing PVP it only made it worse by making other shit overpowered. I don't give a fuck about PVP honestly, I just want poise back in so there's more than one way to play the fucking game. You can tell that they removed it at the last minute, not only does it work on enemies but the stat is still ON THE FUCKING STAT SCREEN FOR FUCKS SAKE, FROM DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO ALWRT PLAYERS THAT IT DOESNT DO ANYTHING THEY JUST HOPED THAT PEOPLE WOULDNT NOTICE THAT LITERALLY HALF THE EQUIPMENT IS VERGING ON USELESS BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE IN DAMAGE REDUCTION IS SO TINY THAT THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO GO FOR SOMEYHING WITH MAYBE A FEW POINTS LESS THAT WEIGHS HALF AS MUCH
>>336442830
Even mine's better holy smokes
>>336443320
What head band is that?
>>336443538
pyromancer starts with it, you can buy it from cornyx the pyromancer you free from a cage at undead settlement
>>336443320
Did you take inspiration from Brianna Wu?
>>336443487
Looks like a monkey, even for a nigger tbqh
damn fire surge is a nice way to deal with roll spam. looks really cool too.
>>336443612
Cheers pal
>>336433656
shhh they don't know... they didn't even do them....
just let it go
>>336432865
>>336433279
You guys do realize its just more demon souls right?
DeS has the WORST poison swamp out of any of the games, and the BEST castle level of any of the games.
Not to mention some of best gimmick bosses.
Oh wait you thought From actually knows how to make a new game? Crestfallen, poison themed areas, moonlight greatsword are in far more of their games than youd think.
>>336443917
only won because the guy got the no estus debuff from the enemies
>>336444376
true, but the fact remains its probably the best pyromancy to get some damage in before they get more iframes
>>336429783
you can hack and not get banned as long as you don't go overboard
source: I cheated to give myself refined gems and proofs of concord
>>336443895
Ow, I think I cut myself.
>>336433246
Because the PS4 is the most hated console on /v/, and Sony the most hated company, bar none. So when there is an actual good game locked behind PS4 the levels of salt, shitposting and falseflagging are a lot higher
Only 20% to 30% even owns a PS4, so only a third of people in here who played dark souls games acutally touched Demon's or Bloodborne
So it's only natural to feel sceptic about it. It's also pretty easy to dintinguish between valid criticism and vapid copy/paste opinions
Also BB has gone through a whole year of shitposting and it still hasn't stopped, even after DaS3's release.
>>336439934
>man this porn is real good but the dialogue is so trashy
>>336444659
fuck off
Why do every Souls thread turn into a Console war nowadays?
>>336444873
Because DS3 honeymoon period is over and people start realizing it's trash compared to BB.
For me DaS3 was the worst of the series. Not bad, but even DaS2 had better things.
>>336431217
Try to understand that individual areas have their own bonfire tab. Everything under that tab is connected, and designed as a single area.
That said, Profraned Capital is one of my favourite areas visually, I do wish there was more to do there, but considering I just went through the dungeon (which I loved), it felt like the final point of the entire zone.
For me, personally
DeS > DaS > BB > DaS3 > DaS2
I thought DaS3 was a good game, I probably won't replay it much, but I had fun playing it, I enjoyed the combat changes for the most part, I thought the world was way better done than DaS2, the lore felt really handwavey at times compared to previous games, and in general it felt a lot easier than BB, but I'd give it a solid 8/10 regardless.
>>336445327
>Profraned Capital is one of my favourite areas visually, I do wish there was more to do there,
I felt the same way, also felt the same way about Submerged Lake or whatever it's called. The latter felt like an attempt at redeeming themselves for Lost Izalith.
>>336445332
you say des is best, and i bet you have under 1k hours and havent payed it in years
>>336445392
It's short and unpolished as fuck. Pray for DLC.
>>336445406
For me it's the same ranking but DaS2>DaS3 (having fun with every game)
Say what you want but DeS had crazy attention to detail and a more believable story than these 2.
>>336445502
no, im saying im on DeS right now, but i doubt any of you fuckers who say its the best even fucking play it.
>>336445392
Smouldering Lake? That was a huge waste of potential. The first part of it looked great, and I was expecting that giant worm to pop up around the place, but it just fucking sits there and you can run straight past it. The ballista is just a nuisance. Plop some crabs in because why not?
The ruins after it are pretty garbage, just tightly packed hallways with awful enemies, adding casters that have spells that linger and cast more fireballs. It's a chore to go through that area, and it has such a small payoff.
>>336445406
I replayed through NG and NG+ last month, I easily have over 1000 hours on it. I don't see what you're trying to prove.
>>336445441
Yeah I hope they expand on Profane Capital and I hope they give us another snow level, From is on fucking point with every snow level they've done in my opinion.
I've never played BB but it seems like every single faggot that has praise it for some reason, is the PVP better than the souls games?
>>336445569
I do.
>>336445601
>I replayed through NG and NG+ last month, I easily have over 1000 hours on it. I don't see what you're trying to prove.
prove it
>you wont
>>336445601
>and I hope they give us another snow level
They fucking better.
Theres an unused area in the mountains you never go to. Shit pissed me off
>>336445592
Yeah that's the one. I got excited at first, I found that worm thing, was running around dodging the ballista, opened up a hole in the ground with it, but then the actual caverns ended up being really underwhelming and when I actually got to that ledge with the ballista there was fuck all there.
Catacombs too, felt like a hodge podge of that tomb area at the end of Dark Souls 2 and then some Tomb Of The Giants ish areas towards the end, wish there was more of the latter and that the place was bigger overall.
>>336445686
I'm at the library pretending to cram for a final exam in a little under 4 hours actually
I'm desperately trying new things, but fucking EVERY cool weapon is hidden after 80% of the game is already over. I just wanted a good spear for once, but every single one right now is terrible.
>>336444659
it's all just sonyggers though, I don't give a shit about the console war and never have but it's reaching a level of absurd as of late
>>336430561
I love Bloodborne, but Irithyll was a far better snowy castle than Cainhurst.
>>336445909
>it's all just sonyggers though
>>336444659
>start dodging side to side
>host freaks out
>>336445909
It just shows your bias if you actually think it comes from only sonyggers, and yet again part of the reasons it's natural people are sceptic
>>336428284
It's called entropy, mate.
The heat death of the universe.
Every time they link the flame they lose all the power used to link it, and then next time the flame wants even more power. If Lorian had linked it in time it may have turned out all right, but he chickened out and the flame just got even thirstier. So you need 5 of the previous lords who linked the flame, that's how much power is needed.
Next time it'll probably be ten lords.
Eventually you'll run out of powerful souls and the flame won't ever be linked again because there's simply not enough power in the world to link it.
>>336434441
personally i dont even consider celestial emissary to be a real boss. more like a fakeout to lull you into a false sense of security so that ebrietas can fuck your little boypussy.
>>336430774
It's when you kill enemies or roll in something like wax or gunk.
The 'soot' is just really shitty blood texture. It wasn't perfect in Bloodborne, but it looked a lot better than this.
>>336431082
Dark 2 was practically perfectly fucking awful in every way.
It had a few redeeming elements, but they were being smothered by all the shit.
Worst of all is that the fucking base gameplay, the character control, is fucked and they never made an effort to fix it. I've heard people theorise that the shitty d-pad character movement is to prevent backstab fishing, but that would just make it even fuck worse of a mistake.
>>336446220
>>336430774
The abyssal creatures that pop out of squigglies (low level hollows) leave it everywhere they attack and when you attack them and make them bleed
Its abyss juice
>>336437058
too bad beast pellets only boost physical damage.
also
>bosses die fast when you are over leveled/equipped
>Hated Phantom Range in DaS2
>It's back in all its glory in DS3
>Hated how convenants, particularly Blueberries, worked in DaS2
>They're actually a step back in DaS3
>Hated how only fast weapons were viable in DS2 at the end of its meta
>Only straight swords and rapiers are really viable right off the bat in DS3
>Hated how linear DaS2 was and all of the bonfire warping
>DaS3 is literally the same
Miyazaki needs to not make Souls an annual release and give it 2-3 years between games.
>>336433246
>Why is it impossible to criticize BB
>criticize
Yeah, OK buckeroo.
>>336436878
>they also striped things that made DaS2 good
>like being able to restat, working covenants that matter and trying something new. Instead we get the fanboy version of DaS1
>they also stripped everything that made Bloodborne interesting like dashing and the harder backstab mechanic
Its confirmed.. From cant make a great game without Studio Japan being involved.
>>336418883
You mean longer.
>pressing R1 is bad
I mean
okay
>>336418883
Truly, it is the Dark Souls of MGSV
>>336446189
I think it's funny to think that there must have been people who beat the Emissary and thought that was the end of the area.
Then they go on /v/ and find out they missed one of the best bosses in the game.
>>336444873
Because faggots like this >>336444969
>new game comes out
>universally shat on by /v/
>suddenly the previous, hated game is considered to be one of the best in the series
Woah, thought I was in a Zelda thread for a second there.
i dont even know anyone who plays ds3 anymore.
major gutting disapointment.
new IP and 3 year dev times plz
>>336418883
It's already great though. There's hardly room for improvement t b h f a m.
>>336418883
i wish i was a little bit taller, i wish i was a baller
>>336432836
>i watched someone else play it
Might as well have raised someone else's baby, you cuck.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
>>336430561
are the horses on treadmill ?
>Playing a miracles user as always
>Takes forever to get Lightning Spear this game
>They nerfed the fuck outta it
>Targeting is WAY off on most enemies, throwing the lightning bolt clear over their head (even does this for the huge giants at the cathedral)
>Get first faith scaling weapon, the Saint Bident
>Its absolute ass and for some reason scales even worse with faith when it's blessed
>Kill a boss who is literally a cleric
>Look at Cleric's Candlestick in the boss weapons that can be made from his soul
>Has a high faith requirement
>Scales with Intelligence
>>336447113
get the Astora Greatsword from the Cathedral's cemetery and infuse it with lightning (that you only get by the end of the game) it gets S scaling with faith.
>>336418883
Its a good game
Hardest game overall but that's because it's faster than souls but slower than BB.
I just feel like everytime I get hit in the game I think I could have dodged that if I was playing bloodborne.
I was also never immersed that much, there were way too many Cathedral esque areas.
The bosses while not the hardest are very challenging but I just feel frustrated after beating them. When I beat Amelia, Logarius and Ebrietas my heart was pumping and hands were shaking.
Bloodborne had lots of problems but I found its minute to minute experience better than das3.
Also the lore sucks. It creates more questions than answers them.
Was their any area in Das3 that needed a torch to navigate through?
It felt like it was just to counter the worm zombies
>>336449280
>Hardest game overall
Really? There was barely any kind of environmental challenges at all and I can't think of any boss that were significantly harder than Martyr or Gehrman. And let's not even mention the DLC bosses. To me, DS3 relatively felt like a cakewalk. Nameless King and Dancer were the most difficult ones for me and they only took about 4-5 tries.
>>336449521
Dark room in grand archives it was nice to have out.
A couple of other areas I know I used mine, but that was more because of the shitty lighting engine/in the area then actually being needed.
>>336447113
The lightning spear is still dope as hell, don't know what the fuck you're talking about
>>336450068
Enemies hit hardest and hit fastest.
It's not tier4 chalice dungeons though but only a few people bothered with that shit
>>336427216
false. items transposed from boss souls in dark souls 2 are in dark souls 3. (ie the shield of want)
>>336432283
besides the red phantoms that will show up
>the loot that said phantoms start dropping
>extra enemies in most locations
>new gear, not just new rings
>some bosses add extra great souls
>new events happen in the game world
>actually gets harder
>>336438812
>tentacle beasts does not lovecraftian make
/tips
It's really no worst than any other Souls games/BB at launch
>>336444270
>its an acid rain level in armored core again
>>336431706
>>weapons were creative as fuck
oh fuck off, 50% of them were blade that became bigger blade or longer blade or two blades
>>336423496
>tfw you aren't a Playstation only fanboy and don't have to shill exclusive games that are worse
>>336431524
is it possible to raise the level of the bonfire like in ds2? I don't want to get to ng++ just for some rings.
Well in the end it was proved that DaS3 couldn't reach as high as its predecesors.
DaS3<=DaS2
>>336418883
I wish it was worse so I could keep saying my PS4 has a good exclusive.
>>336429218
This.
After 2 playthroughs there's nothing left to do.
I'm on my 4th playthrough of das3 and still not bored.
Can someone please tell me if I finish Crystal Sage, can I still summon/ be invaded in the Road of Sacrifices area if I still have not killed Abyss Watchers?
should i respec luck? i have it on 15, started from 9 i think its kind of a waste of points
>>336423496
nah the different control scheme alone makes it tough to go back.
>that room in Forest of Giants with exploding barrels, bomb tossing hollows and a fucking turtle knight
I really hate Forest of Giants. It's your first taste of the lazy enemy design. Apparently the only way to create a challenge is to just double the number of enemies in a room.
>>336423496
I played Bloodborne so far to death that I'm not sure if I can go back. I've just played it too much.
>>336455653
If you beat Crystal Sage you will no longer be invaded by Watchfags in that area. Abyss Watchers is a different area
>>336436596
Old demon king is the best demon variance boss in soul series fuck off.
>SOC and gundyr is bad
God i'm so fucking triggered right now.
>>336437182
Dude is literally LORE boss fuck off you b8 piece of shit.
>>336437475
>BB invented the anime flower garden arena battle
Go fucking eat shit honestly.
>>336439124
fuck off m8 you can cheese sulyvhan with shield medium and sorry that you cant turtle behind medium shield 100% physicality againts mob and bosses like a good ol' day.
>>336442262
you can always fight dancer early on and blitz to nameless king on SL 30.
>>336444969
you are the reason faggot.
>>336445136
joke of the year
>>336432865
Deacons and wolnir are not gimmick fights. Not every boss fight has to be dodging some big guy and attacking when they whiff.
>>336459745
>Hurr durr my opinion is better than yours.
>>336460351
Deacons is literally a gimmick boss, go kill 30 normal enemies.
Thanks for letting me enlighten you, mongrel.
I wish this game was better.
>>336418883
i wish they had actually made an effort like DSII to make everything viable instead of shitting all over magic, fists, anything but fast hitting weapons
>tfw you did nothing but play Dark Souls and Bloodborne games since Autumn and can't get into any other game right now but bored of the Souls formula and suck at parrying so no point in doing pvp
>>336460745
>go kill 30 normal enemies.
So you didn't play the game?
>>336460745
As I figured, you're completely fucking retarded.
>>336461940
I'm not the one you were answering for, so don't be a moron.
>>336418883
Unfortunately it was made for people who watch lore videos on youtube and cry instead of people who actually enjoy playing these games
>>336432429
BB is more diverse than Straight Swords 3
>>336420503
hotdamn
>>336460351
>Wolnir
>hit the giant glowing rings on this giant skeleton boss to damage him
>not gimmick
>>336462349
Oh you mean fighting Werewolf 1, Werewolf 2, Werewolf 3, Bloody Werewolf, Dark Werewolf ?
Yeah, amazing.
Sonycucks are the worst.
>>336431217
>if it was viable to fight him without Stormruler.
Isn't it possible to kill him without? I got him to like 50-60% without realizing that I 'need' to use the Sword
>>336446472
the bloodborne backstab mechanic was retarded, and you can still restat in dark souls 3
>>336440219
>R1 spam is the easiest, most braindead way to play the game. That doesn't mean it's the most effective. Yeah, most new players are going to pick the easiest option
Your numbers for the 1h/2h weapon comparison are also made up
Miracles aren't primarily for dealing damage. you can use miracles in cojunction with something else, and it's actually the main way miracles were meant to be used
Sorcery is kind of weird but is treading a fine line between usel
As opposed to what, exactly? R2 spam? Useless weapon art spam? No, seriously, tell me how I should play an action game without adequate, industry standard combo system, with only light attack and strong attack which you can't even chain properly.
>>336462676
>Oh you mean fighting Hollow Knight 1, Hollow Knight 2, Armored Knight, Fat Knight?
Yeah, amazing, I can play this game too.
>>336440987
Parrying presumably, but really just ugs/greatweapons in general beats straight swords every time. I don't mind trading 2 of my massive hits for one relatively puny dark sword hit, and on top of this you can roll out of range and attack every spammy retard who can't understand when to stop attacking. The problem is of course that r1r1r1r1 is a lot easier than actually thinking about when to trade. Using witch's locks you can probably beat every single player in the game every time if you actually play really well, but all it takes is a couple of fuck ups while the darksword wielding faggot on the other end casually murders you. It is fun for schooling retards and parryspammers though.
>>336463220
I mostly agree but there are other options that are less obvious. For instance, fully charging a strong 2h ugs attack (or at least with astora greatsword) will knockdown humanoid enemies like silver knights who are otherwise really annoying to kill since you can't chainstun them. Of course, 2h swords will chainstun them so you know. The real issue with poise isn't even player poise outside of pvp, but how easy it is to chainstun mobs with faster weapons.
>>336465191
>2h swords will chainstun them so you know
straight swords that is. Poise per hit is just too high for fast weapons.
